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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1718: MY POWER IS MAXIMUMER Edition

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>Google Drive
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDSmZpRWdZaGZRcWs?tid=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&authuser=0

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
https://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
http://kiwiirc.com/client/ircrizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn (embed)

>How to Jumpchain
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDNjZmRG02SDFaRVk/view

>Last Thread
>>55192522
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>These faggots trying to replace Dragon Age, JoJo, and other decent jumps
>Still nobody actually tries a hand at Bayonetta.

Man.
Even with the jumpmaker giving explicit permission, it's just a buncha cowards up in here.
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>>55198522
Man.

It's been years and you still haven't done it yourself, no matter how hard you pretend anyone else gives a shit. You're just a coward.
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>>55198522
The only thing Bayonetta is good for is life drain porn. Fight me. I even 100%'d the game. Least the first one.
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>>55198522
Have you considered that maybe it's just not that interesting or worthwhile of an IP?
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Where can I go to curse my enemies with horrible misfortune?
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>>55196317
My adventure itself is the rose. Every part of my adventure is wonderful! Except when it's horrible.
Then it's horribly wonderful!
>>55196785
Mac 'n' cheese. Except with shells instead of macaroni. And the sharpest of cheddars. High quality, well seasoned sausage is mixed in as well.
Seasoned gently with garlic, onion, salt, and pepper.
This is a thing I make IRL. I can only assume that at this point my Jumper has perfected it to orgasm-tier.
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Always remember that you can replace any jump you want by making a fan-fiction jump.
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>>55198569
Or by just making a jump of it, except it takes place in the past and/or future.
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>>55198552
Generic Creepypasta has a Cryptid perk that lets you curse someone with bad luck that gets worse and worse until they eventually die. Combine it with Fate Worse Then Death, and you could curse someone to get dragged to Hell.

Actually, on that note, cursing someone to be dragged to Hell seems like a terrible idea unless they're wicked/evil. That shit will get the attention of the Big Man Upstairs real quick, and they'll probably end up being rescued anyway.
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>>55198552
Harry Potter.
There's a creature called a Malaclaw who's venom causes the recipient to be unlucky.
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Hey, so I already asked this towards the end of the last thread and got some great answers, but I figured it'd be a nice topic to start the thread with for people who come later.

I'm really looking for inspiration for my writefaggotry. What music do you guys listen to when you're looking for inspiration?
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>>55198538
>Life drain porn

Excuse me?
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>>55198611
Porn. About draining people's lives.
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>>55198598
I use a Youtube Channel with possibly the most generic video titles.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MarK1Ira/videos

Cool thing is, he mostly just uses his views and subs to make sure other musicians, composers, and artists get attention.
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>>55198611
I masturbate to this.
https://youtu.be/FgKcb8KFfQo
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>>55198598
I think I'm a bit broken. When ever I'm writing happy/fluffy things I like to listen to sad music, like the Cancer cover by 21 pilots.
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>>55198620
>>55198648
Oh right, I was only confused because the first one's life drained witches were tastefully hidden away in Balder's skyscraper you're zooming by too fast to really appreciate. And looks like regular old bloody orbs from the outside. Hence why there's no Bayonetta 1 life drain porn.
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>>55198598
I have a bunch of different 'styles' that I listen to depending on what I'm trying to write. Certain settings get their own playlists, although they tend to be rather short. It's an eclectic mix generally because I'm shit at finding music on my own.

Action scenes tend to get Hiroyuki Sawano soundtracks mixed with trailers, of all things, primarily Ace Combat.

Melancholy gets more calm music, like Sting's newer stuff and a few choice pieces from Gundam and Kamen Rider sountracks.

...Probably the weirdest on the list is that when I just want to be productive and crank whatever I'm thinking about out, I'll put on SovietWomble's Alien: Isolation playthrough. Something about his screams is focusing.
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Best places for rituals and ritual magic?
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>watching Extella playthrough while it's raining

I don't want to draw the tamamo hating anon's attention, but I can't help but notice the game makes Tamamo seem pretty dang evil. I'm just saying, it's a bit worrying when compared to you NERO is dutiful, polite to her non-husbando subordinates, strategically minded, respectful of personal boundaries and not inclined to lock you up in the Regalia.
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>>55198860
That's because Tamamo-no-Mae IS evil. Like, the original, mythical version was a villain who was behind a lot of horrible things, such as enchanting a king and starting a reign of terror, manipulating a crown prince as his concubine to behead a thousand men, possessing a concubine of another king, and weaving her way into the Imperial Court as a woman who could answer any question in order to get close enough to weave magic and make the Emperor deathly ill and most likely kill him. It wasn't until much later that she was described as being repentant, and that was after the stone she was in released poisonous gas that killed many innocents and right before she was about to be exorcised anyway. It's quite possible she wasn't really repentant and was lying so she could get off easier.

With all that in mind, Fate Tamamo NOT acting evil would be weird. At least Nero was cool with the common people.
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>>55198522
But the Bayonetta Jump is good
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>>55198900
I mean a lot of (((evil))) Servants in Fate turn out to be dindus or crazy or something, so I don't know what to expect anymore.

I remember a while ago, someone said one of her incarnations is a potential Beast candidate. Any idea what her powers might be?

I also dimly remember someone said Nero is also a potential Beast candidate. It's like Tamamo isn't even allowed to do anything better than Nero
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>>55198860
I haven't played Extella myself, because I heard Tamamo was mandatory.
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>>55198598
This >>55198646 is good.

These are also good:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Dendera91
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrimeCronus
https://www.youtube.com/user/wersion751EXTENDED
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>>55198940
No clue on that one. While Tamamo was definitely a threat and a menace, that came more from her intelligence, magic, and ability to control others in power. Even then, her schemes were always foiled in the end, and in that time she possessed a concubine, she literally achieved nothing before being driven away by normal humans. Doesn't seem Beast material to me.

That's because Nero is supposedly the Antichrist/Beast of Revelations, who we already know is the sixth Beast. Also the second most powerful, if I remember right.
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>>55198940
Nero is called the Whore of Babylon, because the assumption is that this Whore in the bible is a reference to Rome, which would be ruled by Nero at the time of Revelations' writing. The Whore of Babylon is said to ride a dragon, which is sometimes called the beast of 666. However, from what we saw in Prototype, I think it's pretty clear that Sixth Beast/Beast of 666 in Fate is based on Satan in his dragon form, who shows up later in Revelations.
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>>55198994
Not to mention proto Arthur is hunting the 666 Beast across dimensions and would probably mention something on seeing Nero if it was her.
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What should I wish for in Disney? I am doing a Magic!Tech jumper and its my second jump.
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>>55199044
Wish for being a genius when it comes to combining magic and technology.
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>>55198986
Who's supposed to be the stronkest?
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>>55199044
The most powerful sorcerer in the world!
The greatest/smartest/most talented inventor in the world!
The best enchanter in the world!
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>>55199067
It's a complete mystery. We know there are 7 Beasts, and we know that ol' Scratch is number 6. Who could be the seventh is unclear.

The missing beasts right now are 3-R (supposedly like a reverse side of Kiara), 5, and of course 7. If Amaterasu is a beast, she has to be one of those.
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>>55199067
Some nigga called The VII of the End.

We know nothing about him other than according to Caster Gil he was summoned on Earth somewhere around the time Goetia unleashed itself.

Speaking of Goetia, after digging up all the True Demon info I can find I've come to the odd conclusion that while the individual Pillar Demons are imaginary ones, Goetia himself is a True Demon because he was more or less created by God.
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>>55199044
Infinite, perfect coffee to stay awake while working.
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>>55199080
>reverse side of Kiara
>Buddha is going to be an Evil of Man

NASU

NASU DON'T YOU DARE
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>>55199094
>The opposite of Lust is Detachment
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>>55199086
>The final, most powerful Beast is already here
Uh oh.
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>>55198844
The reward for the Darkest Dungeon gauntlet is a pretty good ritual focus location.

The downside being that it's a Gauntlet.
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>>55199154
>It could be /anyone/
>Merlin said Fou and he had something in common
>Merlin is half-incubus, and in certain legends was supposed to be the Devil's son
>Merlin can use all the True Magics, is a better swordfighter than Arturia and his C rank Noble Phantasm can shut down Tiamat's sea of life without him even using the Grand Caster status

UH OH

>>55199146
>you have to team up with Sun Wukong to beat Buddha
>Sun Wukong turns out to be a spunky tsundere tomboy not!Saiyan

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>55199154
REJOICE
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Is Rise/CORE different enough from vanilla DxD to justify its own jump?
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>>55199175
>NOOOOO...
That's not how you spell "YES!"

There's little better in this world than spunky tomboys saiyans.
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>>55199192
Is it? Can you justify it as being different? if you know the series, you should probably know if it's different enough.
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>>55199044
Before we had the Frozen jump, some anon had the idea of wishing for Elsa's ice powers. Actually, you could still do that, and get a separate power from Frozen for double fun.

Jafar literally wishes to be "the most powerful sorcerer in the world" in Aladdin, and while there's probably a limit to how much that grants due to Disneyverse allowance, you're still looking at what looks to be for all intents and purposes Maleficent level power, which is nothing to sneeze at.
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>>55198844
One of the Organization rooms in Generic CreepyPasta makes magical rituals more powerful
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Oh, and he can make Noble Phantasms too! Apparently he thought up Invisible Air. Despite not having EX Item Creation

And he can swap genders.

SO THAT'S JUST GREAT, (maybe) the most powerful Beast ever is a Jumper playing with double CP house rules.

>>55199198
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SERIOUS HISTORICAL FANTASY SERIES WHAT HAPPENED ppffffffhahahahaha okay no I can't even type that with a straight face
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>>55199212
You know Item Creation EX was OC right?
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>>55199192
Yes, but it's an SB quest, so we don't tolerate that trash in our midst.
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>>55199192
Can you explain what makes it different?
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>>55199175
>>55199212
Well, the good news is that Merlin is trapped in Avalon...r-right? Oh God, what if he's just been faking it in order to fuck with everyone, or if he's letting himself be trapped there so that he can't destroy the world.
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>>55199192
It definitely is, though I have no idea why you'd want to bring that SB cancer over here.
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>>55199199
>>55199226
CORE starts decades before DxD normally would have and there are a ridiculous number of ripple effects and OC thrown in, with a lot of it caused by every faction rolling dice for everything from the power levels of major characters to whether or not Rias is born as twins.

The end result is that humanity as a whole is somehow on par with the big three factions, lead from the shadows by a secret organization among secret organizations who literally control pretty much the entire world economy, and who's leader has literally become Ophis', Great Red's, Sarafall's, and God's waifu/father.
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>>55199301
>has literally become Ophis', Great Red's, Sarafall's, and God's waifu/father.

Count me in for that!
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>>55199301
As long as you don't offer the same things as in the main DxD jump, I don't see why it couldn't work.

Seems a bit...shit if I'm honest with how you described that last bit.
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>>55199301
That...sounds cool yet weird. I say go for it I love the idea of Humanity being able to stand against the rest on even footing.
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>>55199301
This.... is some serious madness. I can get behind a jump for it though.
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>>55199301
Sounds like a shit-tier trainwreck.
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>>55199329
Chaos Brigade was a mistake
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>>55199301
I want to ask for a link to this but I am scared to read it now.
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>>55199345
I never said they weren't but with how the devils collect humans with sacred gears it always bugged me.
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>>55199301
Do you think you'd be able to make a jump without it being mostly a retread of the existing one? There's room to share some things but if it ends up looking like a poor copy to get some more sacred gears, it won't end well.
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>>55199322
>>55199329
>>55199337
It's mainly a result of the Quest main character, who survived from beginning to end despite the quest originally supposed to be dynastic, being really good at economics and persuasion, basically fixing every problem by talking at it and throwing money around.

The only reason they got nearly as far as they did was because, if memory serves, they literally invented modern computing technology like a decade in advance with a natural crit roll.
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>>55199369
So a Mary Sue. Really solidifies the idea that it's shit.
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>>55199322
>>55199342
It is, yeah, though it was an entertaining trainwreck at one point.

>>55199347
Should be a few links in there:

>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Roleplay/AGeeksGuideCorporationOfOccultResearchAndExtermination
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>>55199383
You must not enjoy a lot of fiction, then, if your definition of "Mary Sue" is based on "surviving to the end of the story" and "solving most of their problems".
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>>55199369
>economics and persuasion
Oh I need to read this now. I'll look forward to a jump too if it you decide to go ahead with it. Thinkers solving problems via Thinker-ing are always my favorite.
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>>55199384
>Should be a few links in there:
Ah thank you, I kept looking for CORE and not thinking it was an acronym.
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>>55199301
Also, in this quest, God actually managed to reincarnate. Its the biggest difference that I remember is that they rolled well enough to prepare for their death and rebirth. The MC literally adopted her and raised her alongside Vali.
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>>55199394
Really? Because 'fixing every problem by talking at it and throwing money around' seems like mary sue territory to me.
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>>55199412
As opposed to?
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>>55199405
>raising God's reincarnation as a daughter
That's like raising one of your parents as a reincarnated child, except on a much grander scale. Did she remember anything about being God?
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>>55199412
They specialize in persuasion and economics, and prefer to solve most of their problems that way. They didn't literally mean that they fix /every/ problem with money and diplomacy.
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>>55199416
As opposed to what? You don't think solving every single issue in the DxD world with talking and money is absurd?
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>>55199421
Nope. They found her half dead in Brazil as a toddler being drained for her blood which the cartels were selling as a drug.
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>>55199445
So it's edgetastic in addition to the usual anti shonen stuff, then?
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>>55199445
...well that's dark. I'm guessing the cartels got stomped into the ground?
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>>55199453
Not as much as the sequel, but yes.
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>>55199453
CORE is honestly closer in tone to DxD then Rise is, the MC even basically has harem.
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>>55199192
>>55199301
So I take it you're an SBer.
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>>55199453
It's pretty much 40k with a DxD paintjob.
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>>55199192
Different enough? Sure. Able to avoid a heavy case of One True Build syndrome? Not in the slightest. Everyone would go Aspect, if they had the option. And if you didn't offer it, people would complain.
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Is anyone working on a Horus Heresy Jump?
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What's the power level in Devil Survivor 2? I can't tell from the wiki.
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>>55199535
>And if you didn't offer it, people would complain.
Nah, only SBers would complain, and their opinions are worthless. And that's if non-SBers were even familiar enough to care. Besides, plenty of jumps prevent you from purchasing or obtaining the super speshul protagonist powers, not much reason for this to be different.
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>>55199544
The same as every SMT/Persona jump.
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>>55199535
>Everyone would go Aspect, if they had the option.
Not if you attach, like, twenty mandatory drawbacks to it.
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>>55199535
What exactly is an Aspect?
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>>55199570
SMTs have different powerlevels though across games. The top dogs in SMT were only mid-level in later games, for example. Also, Persona tends to be less powerful than mainline SMT.
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what is the best perk/set of perks to become a one-mind many-bodies style hivemind? or whatever the actual term for that would be
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>>55199544
Sorry if this sounds unhelpful, but a step up from SMT 1.

One angel with prep time can blow up the planet. There are many being described as more powerful than that angel. Also a relatively minor demon called Jack Frost can freeze the planet-again, they usually need a long time to charge up this sort of magic, and in combat you basically have Pokemon attacks except certain buffs can pierce through elemental defences against all logic.
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>>55199608
Singularity from Generic Hentai Fantasy.
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>>55199608
Eclipse Phase. Be a massively-parallel set of synchronized ego stacks, linked together by outside-of-jump FTL communications.
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>>55199570
I haven't played any of them sorry.
>>55199609
Thank you! That's really helpful actually.
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>>55199617
What jump has the best FTL communication system?
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>>55199590
In CORE, the extreme power level of the canon characters God, Trihexa, Great Red and Ophis was explained as them being incarnate aspects of reality. Creation, Destruction, Dreams and Infinity, respectively. Which is sort of canon, Great Red and Ophis being those things is, at least, and you could make an argument for God and Trihexa. Not too much OC, there. Then in Rise several other new Aspects have arisen, including the protagonist who is the Aspect of Conflict. It's the in-character reason for why he's powerleveling so much, because Conflict is a really easy concept to draw power from by doing protagonist things and opposing villains.
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>>55199608
Planet Subconscious perks from Alpha Centauri.
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Why do we even need multiple SMT jumps? They're all pretty much the same, anyway: divine being tries to start the apocalypse, generic protagonist and their gang of anime cliches try to stop it. Same mechanics, too.
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>>55199628
You're welcome, wish I could help more. I think Remiel (the planetbusting one) is actually supposed to be an archangel (so pretty high up), he's just in deep cover trying to get you/Amane to go Law. At any rate, Metatron is definitely supposed to be stronger and he retreated when the protag summoned 2 Bels.

For reference, Bels are the 7 shattered fragments of the demon that ruled the world before YHVH took over. One of them, Beldr (yes he is based on the Norse god), is invincible to all attacks (even ones enhanced by stuff like Pierce, the bullshit elemental bypasser) except mistletoe on a conceptual level-because that apparently includes phone straps shaped like mistletoe.

He is not considered the strongest Bel. In fact Lucifer, the most powerful being on the side of Chaos, says he considers the whole conflict irrelevant.

>>55199690
Because the context changes a lot, which is interesting. It's like saying all harem animes start with some dork who gets a bunch of sexy fit/cute women fighting over him.
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>>55199715
>It's like saying
It might be, but harem anime tends not to be interesting, either.
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>>55199671
Yeah... That should probably not be offered, Not for points anyway. Maybe as an endjump or scenario reward depending on how good it actually is relative to the setting.
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>>55199715
Okay I'm definitely moving it to late chain!
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>>55199690
Why do we need multiple Capeshit jumps? They're all pretty much the same, super-criminals do bad shit and super-heroes stop it. Same kind of themes, too.
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>>55199800
Why do we need multiple jumps? They're all pretty much the same, spend points and fanwank stupid shit.
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>>55199690
>>55199800
>>55199821
Why do we even need multiple fantasy jumps? They're all pretty much the same, anyway: evil overlord tries to take over the world, generic chosen one and his plucky band of misfits try to stop it. Same kind of races, too.
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>>55199821
So what you're saying is, we should collect everything into a single Jumpchain Corebook.
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>>55199821
I mean why do we need different humans? They're all the same hairless apes with big frontal lobes.
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>>55199833
Why do we need multiple breaths? I mean they're all the same, inhale and exhale.
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>>55199833
>not having hair
How pitiful.
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>>55199833
I know you're being facetious but depending on who you killed it could easily be 4 or 5 billion people and humanity would only be the better for it.
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>>55199856
We can't all be as glorious as NuBee.
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>>55199538
Daddy problems: The jump
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>>55199870
But you can still try.
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>>55199872
>Primarch Jumper turns out to be an even bigger disappointment for Big E than any of his brothers
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>>55199833
The hairless ape label is always funny to me. Humans are actually covered in hair, it's just that most of it is fine, nearly-invisible vellus hair.
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>>55199858
How so? You mean because of overpopulation/environmental destruction or because of /pol/ shit or...?
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>>55199872
Let's apply WoD naming to that:
Daddy: The Blaming
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>>55199897
I guess the deciding factor would be thickness of the individual hair and follicle count/follicle per square centimeter, right?

Most mammals are covered in hair, but at what point of reduced hair coverage do you start to apply the 'hairless' label?
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>>55199897
>invisible hair
Fucking Seibah.
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>>55199921
Don't get the reference.

>>55199918
Thickness, length, and pigmentation. Vellus hair is short, fine, and colorless.

Anyway, the only hairless mammal would be cetaceans. Humans don't deserve the label just because their hair is hard to see.
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>>55199943
The more you know!
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>>55199901
If someone asked me what humanity's purpose was I'd say, "to advance". There are billions and billions of plebs who, quite frankly, just don't fucking matter. The consolidation of resources, mass automation, and invention of designer babies. Those sorts of thing. Humanity should try and become the closest thing to gods possible. There are too many plebs holding back progress.
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>>55199969
*tips*
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>>55199969
Yeah, but anon, when you start colonizing other planets, you're going to need a lot of chaff to fill things out. As long as humanity acts as an expansive species, high birthrates are not at all a problem because there's always going to be a significant outflow.
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I just glanced at the WoC update posted in the last thread, and it`s riddled with mistakes in both its formatting and grammar. Did the version uploaded to the drive fix those problems? I can`t access it at the moment.
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>>55199906
Sounds like a game a lot of the WW/Onyx Path staff would play.
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>>55199969
You mean like yourself, posting on 4chan?
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>>55199973
You'll get it one day, kid. Or not. Most don't. So probably not.
>>55199986
>you're going to need a lot of chaff to fill things out.
That literally does not need to happen for million of years if humanity gets ahold of its own reins. We don't even have a proper hold here. That's too fucking far away to be thought about practically.
>>55200012
I would be dead as well, yes. That doesn't make what I say any less incorrect. There are people who are just objectively better than near everyone else. Those people should make better people so that humanity as a whole gets better.
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>>55200057
>Not expanding throughout the stars and instead sticking on this one shitty, dying planet that could get wiped out by a fucking gamma ray burst or asteroid at any moment.
Nah man, we need to plant our seed on every single planet and in every single lagrange point and in every single asteroid belt that we can. Fuck Earth.
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>>55200080
I did not say that. We're simply not ready yet. There is no need to hurry.
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>>55200080
>>55200057
What are some jumps where the overuse of the planets resources have caused the slow decline of the human race? you guys are giving me weird cravings.
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>>55200098
Ready Player One
Angel Notes
Anno 2070
maybe Generic Dystopia?
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>>55200087
Those who hesitate miss the chance to seize opportunity.
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>>55200138
They often also blow up.
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>>55200138
And those who do things prematurely often need to change their pants.
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>>55200149
In this situation, you're more likely to be blown up if you stick with the one, easily blown up planet.
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>>55200122
Surprising sparse genre. I think Big O might count too, or am I just confusing it with Ergo Proxy.... I think they both might count but we don't have an Ergo Proxy jump as far as I am aware..
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The runaway greenhouse effect is impossible to stop now, Earth has to be abandoned before it turns all Venus on us.
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>>55200153
Given that Earth is one of the few planets that can sustain human life, as opposed to all of those that can't, your statement is false. We have a good start. We are wasting it. This is a bad game of Civ.
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>>55200098
>>55200168
Nausicaa? Kind of?
>>55200180
>The runaway greenhouse effect is impossible to stop now
We don't know that yet. We still have to try to stop it, especially because
>Earth has to be abandoned
Won't be feasible for a long ass time.
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>>55200098
What will you do when you jump them just soak in the melancholy and regret?
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How are the Dragon Ball jumps going?
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>>55200185
The start time is over. There aren't enough readily accessible fossil fuels to have another industrial revolution. This is our only shot, and we need some panspermia before we miss it.

>>55200192
>We don't know that yet
That's the opinion of everyone who matters, anon. It won't be stopped, sorry to tell you.

Anyway, idiots that think we can solve humanity's problems are worthless to talk to. Poverty won't end. You can't solve all the problems on Earth before you leave it, because those problems are innate to the way humans operate. So you either accept flaws and get on with it, or you try to fix the unfixable and slowly descend back into barbarity.
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>>55200214
Something like that probably. Maybe put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.
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>>55200217
Hopefully away.
>>55200219
Humanity is almost certainly already doomed because it cannot pull itself out of the hole that is cultural conflict. We're dead, Jim.
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>>55200219
>That's the opinion of everyone who matters, anon.
Untrue. It's the opinion of only one climate scientist and one glaciologist that I know of. Most of the people who study this think we still have a small window of opportunity.
>>55200219
>Poverty won't end.
Poverty has a whole has receded in the last century which means it can be affected.
Muh human nature isn't a convincing argument in the face of obvious diversity (and changes over time) of human societies.
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>>55200217
Not bad. Took a bit of a break from GO to recharge today and I've got most of GT's stage 1 done. It's not too big so I should be able to write it up fairly quick once the last perk and item in each tree is done.

Xenos only had a few scattered bits filled in so far and Super hasn't progressed too far since my last update on it.
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Chocolate or vanilla?

I would take both.
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>>55200270
Like before, the one that makes me not go to prison.
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>>55200246
>Cultural conflict
Not a problem that can be solved. Accept it as reality, work on space colonization anyway.

>>55200256
>Poverty has a whole has receded in the last century which means it can be affected.
Poverty is relative. There will always be the poor and disadvantaged. You can't get rid of it unless you somehow invent that mythical 'real communism' everyone talks about.
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>>55200268
Will there be a perk that helps us take our monstrous transformations and master them, compacting their power into a human sized, mostly human with accents form? Basically generalized SSJ4.
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>>55200270
Vanilla, chocolate is a slut.
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>>55200270
Is 11 legal in Nasuland Japan? Why are they so sexualized? Also, It seems like Shirou should be more concerned about his imouto being attracted to him, because wow.
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>>55200270
Maids
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>>55200274
I could accept it with less people as it is less with less people. Certain other things are hard-capped in ways that it doesn't matter if there are enough resources. At a point, conflict is certain. You just have too many people that care about dumb shit. That's why having less people is so important. Again, we're not ready for space.
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>>55200302
I don't think the maids exist in that timeline.
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>>55200292
You know I can't resist the transformations. That was already in for the Saiyan perkline as one of their first ones. Though it's for both monstrous and berserk states, so a little more broad.

SS4 is so cooool
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>>55200298
>Also, It seems like Shirou should be more concerned about his imouto being attracted to him, because wow.
>Shirou
>Being aware someone is attracted to him without it being spelled out, repeatedly, in clear concise language
Do you even know Shirou?

>>55200310
They do. They work for the Emiya family. They hit on Shirou a lot. He's oblivious to it.
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>>55200305
Naysayers like you would say we're never ready for the next technological advance. With more people like you, we'd be carving these messages into the cave wall.
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>>55200313
SSJ4 is definitely the best. I'm really sad they didn't take the opportunity to reintroduce it with a Universe 6 Saiyan or something.

They clearly know people love it, in all of the spin offs and side merchandise, they're still showing off SSJ4 Goku as this amazing thing.
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>>55200313
Before you mentioned the capstones were pretty strong. What are you planning besides Pure Progress, if you don't mind me asking?
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>>55200320
>Naysayers like you would say we're never ready for the next technological advance.
Alright. I'm done. I concede. I've been had. There is no way that you could read my posts and think that unless you're baiting. I need to go to sleep anyway.
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>>55200305
>having less people is so important
You might want to look into human history again.
Every major advancement we've made has been for conflict.
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>>55200318
>They hit on Shirou a lot
This is every girl, seriously. I don't think any of the major girls in any of the things where Shirou is present haven't been into him other than Medea.
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>>55200345
You prioritize 'social progress' before technological progress. The problem is, that social progress is a subjective thing and has some goals that are actually impossible. It's running on a treadmill.
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>>55200357
Not writing. Not astronomy. Not antibiotics.
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>>55200357
I should not need to explain to you why increasingly frequent and increasingly dangerous conflict is bad.
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>>55200359
It's mostly because of the fucking high jump or whatever. Appropriately, there's a perk for that in Prisma Illya.
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>>55200344
Well, Saiyan is getting Goku Black's Super Zenkai, Namekian is getting one to let you catch up to the general power level of your allies and enemies in absurdly short times (Piccolo getting from his Buu saga level to contending with universe class fighters in a few days to 2 months max), Frieza's race gets Mutant (Which is basically being the Frieza of every race you are, including potential to unlock a Golden form for that race) and so on. There are a few more but they aren't fully decided or still need some kinks worked out.
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>>55200371
We invented writing so we could record all the tribute the local plebians owed to the king, though. Then from there we started writing about how badass he was for kicking everyone's butts.
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>>55200383
Important to note that Golden form could be any color Frieza wanted, it was just Golden because of how he is.
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>>55200359
It's a secret but Shirou has a Skill, a Skill that EMIYA lacks and is the real reason he became a Counter Guardian.

The Harem Must Be Fed:A-Rank

But in all seriousness, that's just how the universe works. Shirou isn't the only one.


>>55200381
I wish I had the high jump image.
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>>55200371
You seem to think that conflict means violence.
Writing was developed to pass on knowledge gained so that it would not be lost in conflict.
Astronomy had its greatest advances when it was viewed as heretical - Simply studying it was a conflict.
Antibiotics were developed in a conflict for survival.

>>55200380
Conflict doesn't necessarily mean violence. Competition is also conflict.
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>>55200397
Yeah but...Gold is the best colour. Easy.
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>>55200402
You know damn well I meant violence.
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>>55200405
You ningen not knowing pink is the best colour.
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>>55200410
Your worldview is too narrow. Expand it, or perish. Adapt or die. That's the way things work.
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>>55200270
Chocolate needs to be set on fire and left in a dumpster.
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>>55200418
No! Not the color of the apocalypse!
Pink is an abomination!
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>>55200383
Sounds good. Is HIt's for a role origin, not a race?
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>>55200405
I prefer blue and silver. And green, and red. And purple. Also black.

Really the only color I like less than yellow is orange.
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>>55200418
On the one hand that Aura is fucking radical. On the other hand the pink hair is just nope.
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>>55200419
In that case, I can't wait for the big red button that just outright kills us all. You are a dumbass who thinks the conflicts between the most powerful forces on the planet and third world brown people equal anything special. If anyone of note fought with each other in modern times it would likely destroy everyone for tens to hundreds of years. I'd like to see what you can advance from ash. Goodnight.
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>>55200318
Best girl, right there.
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>>55200438
Nah, his stuff is going into the Generic Alien racial origin, has one of at least 3-4 capstones.

Role stuff may, and these aren't final suggestions mind hence not saying them earlier, include things like Zamasu level immortality, either permanently gaining part of the power of transformations or stacking multiplicatively transformations on each other or breaking through any hax or concept bullshit with raw power (All contending for the same spot and may all end up there depending on the spaces available) and maybe Zen'no's erase stuff.
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>>55200474
She deserved her own route.
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>>55200383
Will there be stuff for Black's other bullshit? Along with Future Zamasu? Cause that arc, in spite of stuff like Trunks suddenly powering up to be stronger than their fusion, was still pretty entertaining.
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>>55200484
>She deserved her own route
So did Satsuki in Tsukihime, for that matter.
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>>55200495
Of course. They're big villains and have to get some rep time, so stuff like Black's mimicry power is going in too and stuff from Future Zamasu. Trunks too has the rage thing as a featuring perk, though it also draws on how Frieza and Beerus and Vegeta had similar things.
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>>55200484
Kinda want to take her as my master if I ever go Servant in Fate/SN. Maybe summon myself as a Saber(face).
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>>55200405
Emperor of Mankind get out

>>55200478
> Zamasu

Isn't that perfect immortality barring being erased?
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>>55200478
Makes me wonder how I am going to explain to the Z Fighters I was the GoD all along with all my continuity drawbacks I have been taking.
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>>55199538
Go to Imperium of Man, take the time extension drawback and travel back in time.
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>>55200528
Yes, though obviously erased applies to more than just Zenno's specific usage.. Also Emps has shit style. Way too bulky.
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Had a bit of trouble with this one. When it's a franchise I don't know, I can do some googling and research to get a handle on the aesthetic, but what I found was super hard to pin down, so I ultimately pulled a slide from a clip I saw and recreated it.

I read a few summaries and shit but I couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on, so I sort of just winged the descriptions. I'm going to Neptunia next and I am intimately familiar with that series so maybe it'll be better than this.

>Adobe Illustrator CC 2017
>Three work hours over one day
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>>55200560
These are pretty cool man.
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>>55200560
So do you make each background yourself or do you use images from somewhere as a base?
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>>55200560
I like it
could you link to your two previous jumps? or repost them?
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>>55200573
For the other ones I mean, is it all like this one that you based on a slide?
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>>55200555
>Emperor is too bulky
>Shitty recolor is cool
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>>55200478
How big is the drawback cap going to be? It sounds like there is too many goodies not enough cp for half of them.
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>>55200591
Mmm, probably a 1000CP limit. Probably have either a drawback cap uncapper or just one that doesn't count towards the limit in the form of the jumpchain survival tournament, though that one will probably need some restrictions so it can't be abused.
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>>55200589
Never said it was cool. Just that gold was cool.
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>>55200566
Thanks.

>>55200573
>>55200585
Depends on what I'm trying to do. The Log Horizon build, for example, isn't directly based on a single image, but rather was me attempting to recreate the in-game UI. Thankfully, it's UI is pretty damn simple, hexagons with some lighter edges, so I could just create a background based on this image. Then, it was a matter of looking up screenshots that showed the menus and roughly reconstructing them. The item section in the build, for example, is actually a modified version of a cooking menu, I think?

For this one, however, it wasn't something geometrical that I can recreate (I actually can't draw, I just work with vectors and masking), so I grabbed a snip from the trailer I saw and livetraced it. Then I masked out the center and put in a few details to make the middle feel less empty. The pattern is actually the same one I used in Harry Potter, and it's really just there to break up a mono color background.

Harry Potter was sort of the prototype for all of this, it's really just a blank page with some images thrown on to look slightly less terrible. No real design philosophy there, just a build.

>>55200574
...I haven't really thought about a place to store these, actually. Guess I should start uploading these to the... writefaggotry folder, I guess? In the meanwhile, here are the archive links.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1504/15/1504153228164.png
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How do I become Hexxus /jc/?
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>>55200653
Thanks for explaining it. They look really nice. Way better than my spreadsheets...
Maybe throw them into a pdf for the writefaggotry folder once you have a few of them? Maybe when you hit ten?
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>>55200659
Become the Living Legend of Corruption, Decay or Pollution in Moana.
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>>55200659
Captain Planet.
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>>55200478
Considering people can never agree on how cp bought things stack, and transformations stacking multiplicatively is literally how they work in DB, that perk seems kind of eh. Everything else sounds like the more unique, cool stuff from Super. Looking forward to the jump!
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>>55200704
Eh, like detailed, it's only one of 3-4 or more contenders.
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>>55200680
I still do not understand how that works exactly, like in moana if you are the living legend of wind does that mean you are all wind everywhere?

just a small amount of wind?

can you be killed anymore if you are something like light, darkness, pollution, or dirt?
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>>55200719
Hey Val, will the Dies Irae jump include a perk to design your own soul manipulation techniques like Mercurius did?
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>>55200738
Iirc You are roughly an Island level spirit. If you are wind you are something on the order of a tornado. If you are in you dispersed state it would take some manner of fuckery to hurt you but you cant do much in that state and so you'd need to condense yourself at which point more normal things would start to have an effect.
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>>55200765
Mmmmm, not sure. Probably, his origin is a bit lacking on the content compared to the other two, so it can use all the stuff it can get.
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>>55198860
Yeah, having only just been able to play Extella myself, it's weird how much of a bitch Tamamo is being. I mean, compare her to her Extra-self, and they're like two different characters.
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>>55200771
Will Ren's origin have stuff for his constant bullshit powerups and his crazy rage mode in Rea's route? A perk for being inexplicably badass/chuuni and great at fighting?
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>>55198912
It's Red jump, of course it's good. Timmy's just a whiny little shitposter. But then... you know that, right?
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>>55200851
Yup, yup, no you have to live with your chuuniness and yup.
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>>55200870
Since Super finally gave us more info on the dragons themselves, are you doing anything with them?
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>>55198860
Finish her route. Things are not as they seem.
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>>55200771
Maybe a perk to deal with knowing too much with making life meaningless? An avatar creation perk? A masadaspeak perk? A cool hair perk?
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>>55200890
Noooooooo, I'm totally not doing anything relating to having a dragon race. That'd be crazy.

>>55200906
That's a good one, had foreknowledge but not one for dealing with having foreknowledge. In. In. Part and parcel to one of the freebies.
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>>55200916
... There's a dragon race, isn't there?
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>>55200906
>Maybe a perk to deal with knowing too much with making life meaningless?
That kinda seems like more of a drawback if I'm being honest, with what I know about Mercurius. He essentially does a Groundhog Day with the entire universe more times than we have a number for, of course things are going to seem meaningless to him, because they are for the most part. He's literally seen all the permutations, done all the things, he might as well be fucking about in sandbox mode. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding.
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>>55200901
Why would anyone want to waste time doing that?
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>>55200890
What did they say about them?
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>>55200927
Without*

Phoneposting is bad
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>>55200916
Can we have a dragon race pet then? I like the idea of having a mini shenron who could grant me wishes like having a good snow cone.
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>>55200771
What about a keikaku perk? Making friends with really powerful/inluential people? Something for everyone thinking that you're the best like with Marie? Though those could also fit the Trifa/Reinhard and Ren origins. Maybe more focused on people protecting you.
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Tell me about the art your jumpers have collected.
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Reminder that Universe 2 is the worst Universe in DBS and needs to be destroyed immediately.

This is their strongest champion.
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>>55200771
Also, for tge gear section, maybe having your own version of the cancer cell without actually wanting to die that much?
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>>55200941
All of it. I have all of the art.
I may have gotten a bit carried away in some jumps and emptied out every museum and swung by a lot of people's houses like some demented art stealing Santa. I did leave them all jumper tier milk and cookies though, so it's fine, right? Right?
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>>55200925
They're so cool but such a fucking pain to handle. Worth it for how cool they are and how cool Super Shenron is though.

>>55200927
He's meaning a perk that makes you able to deal with that stuff. Mercurius just has that knowledge and it really fucks with him, the perk would let you know all that without it fucking with you, such as by letting you somehow ignore or not make use of knowledge unless it'd benefit you directly to do so, letting you still enjoy surprises without outright losing the good side of that knowledge.

Or something.
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>>55200938
Of course. Yup. Not yet but might be in.
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>>55200965
>Spoiler
I can tell I am going to have so much trouble choosing exactly what and who I want to be in this jump.
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>>55200953
Hah. Well, I need to revise on that exact thing but it may or may not be naturally obtained in a way anyway.
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>>55200980
Isn't a Hadou thing? If we cannot go to that level without end-jumping we wouldn't get it.

Could we go Hadou without end-jumping?
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>>55200980
Oh yeah, some apoptosis/cancer thing that helps us fight the established world/divinity/supernatural in some way would be sick.
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>>55200930
Because you can't get to Altera's route otherwise. That's one reason.
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>>55200890
What happened with the dragons?

>>55200952
What the hell is that?
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>>55201046
Universe 2 has a justice and hero thematic. They also have a team of magical girls who transform into an empowered state. The leader of those magical girls is a mild subversion of the trope and gets uglier when they transform instead of cuter or prettier.
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>>55201046
It's a fat tub of lard that's so gross even Vegeta doesn't want to punch it, because that means touching it.
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>>55200992
You will be able to become a hadou or gudou in chain, though you'll need to find your own way there and won't innately have the ability to get there like Ren or the others do

>>55201012
Hmm, that might be a cool way of doing it.
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>>55200941
I collect statues of people and creatures from every universe, I turn them to stone the keep them in my warehouse. Later I carve golem runes on them from the inside bringing them to a pale shadow of their former selves as stone servants.
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>>55201026
And that's why I'll never play Extella.
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>>55201012
>>55200953
>wanting cancer
What?
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>>55201079
Isn't the Hadou impossible to get if aren't born with the chance of getting it? Maybe you can do your own ritual and sacrifice a few millions, but that would still be brute forcing the local metaphysics.

Then again, being a Hadou is about doing that.
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>>55201108
Yes, it will indeed take a little bit of effort to get that much power.

Besides, in a way I think it's fitting that you need to take that power for yourself. Least for Hadous.
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>>55200941
whenever I'm in a "real world" jump I steal the Vatican,the library of Alexandria , The British Library and the Louvre,replacing them with copies, so far no one Has noticed,the discrepancies are fascinating usually it's little things like word choice it was in books but there are are at least 75 works Unique to specific worlds that ostensibly the real world!
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>>55200941
I find the idea of keeping an art piece for my own benefit to be abhorrent. OTOH I've used pensieves and the Princess Bride Adaptanator to put VR simulations of any cultural landmarks or interesting place I've ever visited into a neat little collection.
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>>55200901
So far the most I've been moved in her route is Liz sounding heartbroken at how in love Soul Hakuno is with Tamamo

I went into Extella expecting trash, and Liz is an idol therefore the trashiest of trash, but holy shit I did NOT expect dat VA to have the range to pull a 180.
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>>55201120
Huh, cool then. Will there be a 8+ companion import, maybe styled after the Longinus Dreizehn Orden? Even if they just get a relic it would still be awesome.
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>>55201168
Yeah, most likely something based on them. Wish I could find a list of their runes and the powers/themes the runes have for them though. So not digging through the entirety of the vn again for each individual mention.
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>>55201212
Will our Relic/Ahnenerbe have an import option?
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Jumpers! What did you do in Harry Potter?
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>>55201212
I'm certain that Youtube has all their Briahs and fights moments.
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>>55201227
Ignored the plot and the accusations of being eeeeevil.
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>>55201227
Used Ranked magic just to be a special snowflake.
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>>55201224
Yeah.

>>55201231
Not those. The runes that each member of the LDO is associated with, the stuff you see on their chairs in the meeting room. Like how Rusalka has the rune for Binding, which lets her make contracts or be great at binding magic.
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>>55201227
Tempted Hermione with dark powers, pretty much free of charge
Got frustrated when she never used them "because they're evil"
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>>55201227
I indulged in some harmless meddling.
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>>55201314
Oh and a bit of light genderbending may have occurred.
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>>55201227
>Sorcerer's Stone
Stereotypical Ree'ing about publishers thinking Americans are too stupid to know what a Philosopher is, or know about the Philosopher's stone, as if calling it the Sorcerer's stone made it any better known.

Also, I generally played with people, and where fanfiction tropes were actually accurate I trolled the hell out of whoever was involved. I goofed off most of the time and then suddenly revealed, at the final battle (which was in Diagon because I had decided Hogwarts /should/ have fanon tier wards) I suddenly showed how much of an OP Mary Sue I was by stopping every single spell sent at the good guys using an army of animated flying plates, bowls, and tea cups enchanted out the wazoo. Once they realized what was happening it was a very one sided fight.
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>>55201227
Studied. I didn't have any learning perks and I was a student at a school. No amount of natural talent for using magic prepares you for History of Magic.
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>>55201227
Was sorted into Slytherin and decided to go full Tom Riddle 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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>>55201357
So where are the learning/training perks? I have the ones from Arrowverse and Batman TAS.
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>>55201422
Learning perks:

A Certain Scientific Railgun (Hard Science)
Adventure Time (Suckin' At Something…)
Alpha Centauri (Technician) (Empath) (Power) (Wealth) (Knowledge)
Anima Beyond Fantasy (Freelancer's Talents) (Martial Talent)
Animorphs (Follow the Trail)
Aquaria (Lumarian race option)
Archer (Linguist)
ARIA (Language Barriers?)
Arrowverse (Genius) (Kinesthetic Learning)
Assassins Creed (The Human Condition)
Atelier Arland (Assistance)
Avatar the Last Airbender (Innovative)
Avernum (Natural Mage)
Banner Saga (Blessing of Dundr)
Basilisk (Monster)
Battletech (Cunning Linguist)
Bayonetta (Scholar Origin) (Prior Findings)
Ben10 (Galvan and Cerebrocrustacean race option)
Berserk (Gift of Words)
Big O (Logic)
Binbougami (Thrill of the Fight) (Gettin' To You)
Biomega (Internal Ballistics Calculations) (Chromosome Analysis Specialist) (Shinensoku)
Bionicle (Wisdom)
Bioshock (Savant Genius)
Bleach (Gifted)
Buffyverse (Brilliant) (Robotics Genius)
DC (Genius)
Demons Souls (Heightened Capacity)
Divinity Dragon Commander (Tactical Genius)
Dragon Age - Inquisition (Beautiful Mind) (Heavy Hitter) (Masterful Magi) (Specialized Skillset)
Dragonlance (Race Options: Gnome, Irda, Aurak, Bozak, Vapor)
Eclipse Phase (Aptitude Enhancement Mods - Cognition)
Fallout (Educated) (Physical Enhancement Implant - Intelligence)
Fire Emblem Awakening (Aptitude)
Futurama (Mathematics) (Inventor)
Gunnerkrigg Court (Omnilearner)
Gurren Lagann (Spiral Energy)
Halo (Erudition)
Harry Potter (Wit Beyond Measure)
Homeworld (Tactical 'Genius')
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>>55201456
Oh shit. You absolute god, thanks man.
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>>55201422
>>55201456

Jackie-Chan Adventure (Tech-Savvy) (Intelligence)
Kid Radd (Limit Mode)
Kim Possible (Genius)
Kingdom Hearts (Your Summer Vacation is Finally Over)
KOTOR (Intelligence Specialization)
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (Even a Tenth of My Intelligence)
LOTR (Riddle-Master)
Lovecraft (Super Sleuthing)
Magicka (Comptetence)
Marvel (Brains)
Marvel Cinematic Universe (Tech Expert Origin)
Mega Man Battle Network (Battle Intuition)
Mega Man Zero (Born Scientist)
Metal Gear Solid (I've Got Science) (No Nation We Inhabit)
Morroblivian (Sleep On It)
Mount & Blade (Intelligence)
Muppet Treasure Island (Smart as Paint)
NuTrek (Brilliant Deductions) (Superhuman)
Panty & Stocking With Garterbelt (World's Smartest Monkey)
Parasyte (Brightest)
Penny Dreadful (Quick Study)
Pokemon (Savant)
Quest for Glory (Magic Training) (Clever)
R-Type (Raw Danger) (Bydo Lab Chief)
Rick and Morty (Genius)
Skyrim (The Warrior, Mage, Thief, and Lady Standing Stones (Free!))(Clever Craft)
Spyro the Dragon (Quick Learner)
Star Trek (Scientific Mind) (Treknobabbler) (To Boldly Come…)
Star Trek TNG+DS9 (Augmented)
Supreme Commander (Symbiont) (Brackman Intellect)
Team Fortress 2 (Saxxy Australian)
Teen Titans (Genius)
The Sims 3 (Eccentric) (Genius) (Disciplined) (Virtuoso)
They Live (Mastermind)
Tropico – The Dictator (Special Ops Training) (Literacy Program)
True Lies (Polyglotism) (Care to Tango)
Twilight (Fast Learner)
Vampire the Masquerade – Bloodlines (Lockpicking) (Hacking) (Scholarship)
Van Helsing (Crazed Physician)
Venture Bros. (Superscience)
Git Gud from Tome
Speed reading from Princess Bride
Realis Phase (Danmachi)
Gamers Skills/Mind/Body (The Gamer)
Enchanced Masterery (Worm)
Heroes Training (A Practical Guide to Evil)
Kinda Green (Iji)
Try Again (Limited to Learning from Mistakes) (Dark Souls 3)
Weapons of the Weak (NGNL)
Training takes Time (Saints Row)
Genius of Hard Work (Naruto)
A Few Perks in Disgaea.
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Why can't Shirou or Archer copy Excalibur with UBW?
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>>55201227
RESEARCH!

Immortality? Shapeshifting? Hiding in plain sight? Sealing the secret of a location in a person? A hundred other frankly absurd things? All that bullshit has rules to how it works and if you know those rules you can put them to work for you. HP-verse magic can be serious stuff. Not in terms of raw destruction but in utility.
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>>55201456 >>55201466
Sweet Jeebus on toast.... thanks for list!
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>>55201467
Divine items aren't able to be replicated by human hands. Basically the reality marble can't replicate the materials needed.
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>>55201464
>thanks man
>>55201506
>thanks for list!
You're welcome! It's just a compilation of two or three lists made by other anons. Although a lot of it seems to be more about general intelligence than pure learning.
I guess being more intelligent means you understand and learn things more easily?
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>>55201467
Something about the quality of iron apparently, because Nameless can do it just fine in the Moon Cell through the power of fanservice better iron.

>but the Moon Cell is a simulation

The bullshit observation into reality stuff it does is so powerful, it effectively IS a very weird kind of magical realm.
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>>55201508
i'm pretty sure he can copy some divine items though. i thought it was basically, he can't reproduce something he can't comprehend.
as far as i remember, i thought it was something about the materials used that made him unable to copy it.
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>>55201508
>>55201521
Would throwing more prana at the problem for Shiro, or Mana for Archer do anything, or are they totally incapable of using it, and presumably other divine/special items?
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>>55201560
It would probably help but it would have to be a lot of prana.
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>>55201560
Well Kuro in Prisma Illya can trace Excalibur so..... Maybe you can fanwank that you can too.
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>>55201560
>prana
>mana
So. Prana is a catch-all term for magical energy. Mana is the magical energy in the area (there's lots of it, but it recovers slowly) while od is the magical energy produced by the person (comparatively not much of it, recovers fairly quickly, can cause injuries if access badly.)

That aside, it should be noted that even divine swords show up inside UBW. The problem is, their quality and cost (for projection outside of UBW) are both affected by how well he comprehends their manufacture and history. He also lacks the ability to produce enough prana to make use of them to their fullest - Unleashing an excaliblast would almost certainly kill him before he managed to fire.
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>>55201624
Didn't know that about mana/prana. Thanks.

>>55201570
>>55201602
>>55201624
Thanks.
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>>55201602
Mary Sue. Mary Slut? Slutty Sue?
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>>55201602
Illya (all versions, including Kuro) is the Lesser Grail of the Fifth Grail War, even if there isn't one. Remember that she had enough od to maintain Berserker long before the Greater Grail took up any of the slack. This is ridiculous levels of power already, on par with Arturia's Heart.

She's also an actually trained magus, which Shirou is most certainly not.
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>>55201120
I must be the only one who wants F/GO to be done already so magical nazi adventures come closer
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>>55201823
>magical nazi adventures

I love this place.
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>>55201823
I for one also agree with you and am looking forward to it.
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>>55201560
Ultimately, "throwing more power at the problem" is the ultimate solution in Type-Moon. The problem is the sheer amount that's needed to solve problems normally considered totally impossible, or hard limits.

There's a reason why the Third Magic's the keystone of the Grails. It generates so much magical energy it overpowers even most Servants.

>>55201785
>on par with Arturia's Heart

A fair bit more I think, at least in Prisma. Equipped with a Kaleidostick, using all of herself as a magical amplifier and missing the bulk of her raw power Illya can bust out enough prana to OVERPOWER EA.
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>>55199175
>Merlin can use all the True Magics
No he can't? Who the fuck is spreading this dumb shit around. Merlin is a magus not a magician.
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>>55200302
>>55200310
Maids are the correct answer.
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>>55201936
Reminder that you can use Nasu's Reinforcement magic to strengthen a maid's moe.
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Are we keeping the fate general jump? I like it and have a companion I want to make a servant.
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>>55201823
I'm looking forward to it too. Lesson I guess form this is to stop setting date based deadlines for myself and just do it by order. Still, can't wait to work on Dies Irae.

At the very least GT is now done and ready for fluff, didn't take long, so that should be done soonish.

>>55202028
It'll be around for a good few months at least. I still need to make 3-4 more jumps before it's totally obsolete.
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>>55202028
Yeah, Val was going to keep it as a placeholder for the wars we don't know much about like the First.
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>>55202060
Naw, since I'm doing a jump for the first war, small one, that'll eventually go too.
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>>55201900
>A fair bit more I think, at least in Prisma.

Well, yes, but that's mostly because the Second Magic is bullshit like that. I was talking about Illya on her own though.

Mind you, Shirou is plenty bullshit as well - He just lacks the power to take full advantage of it. I'd hate to see what he could do with a Kaleidostick.
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>>55202065
? Why would you do that, we know all of about nothing of the First war. Only that it's just how the Grail Wars had started.
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Since we are talking fate.

How well would a level 100 succubus warrior from overlord with the following generally do in fate? Not considering concept hax of course.
• Damage focused class skill
• Tireless
• World champion
• Defense focused class skills
• Magic caster skill class divine caster
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>>55202065
Hey Val how is GO going ? Or someone already asked that question today ?
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>>55202087
I think Stat wise the Overlord Level 100s are stronger then servants barring the exceptional servants that have A+ or EX of course. Its just that Servants have conceptual hacks that the Level 100s have no defense against considering they originated from a video game.
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>>55202083
We know quite a bit, actually. We know at least three of the participants quite or very well and have some info on what kind of people the others were, we know a bit about the setting, at least one servant and the way the war played out (A gigantic fucking mess).

There's more than enough for a standard sized jump for it.
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>>55202075
>Mind you, Shirou is plenty bullshit as well - He just lacks the power to take full advantage of it. I'd hate to see what he could do with a Kaleidostick.
Shirou with a Kaleidostick isn't that much stronger. The most he really gains is enough mana that he doesn't have a timer on UBW
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>>55202122
Think I mentioned earlier but basically I took a bit of a break today to do GT since GO was really burning me out and dragging along. Gonna get a bunch of the big item pool done tomorrow to make up for it but there's been little progress today on GO.
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>>55202131
That makes sense.
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>>55202087
is that your jumper or a companion?
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>>55202209
My companion. She hasnt been imported anywhere and I was curious as to how well she would do. I went full caster in overlord. She was the npc so I guess shes like my daughter?
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>>55202051
>GT is now done and ready for fluff
Neat.
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>>55202139
Who participated in the first for the Einzberns? Justeaze couldn't, as she was too busy being the Greater Grail.
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>>55202051
>At the very least GT is now done and ready for fluff, didn't take long, so that should be done soonish.

I like the transformations, they're pretty cool.
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>>55201823

What kind of noble phantasm would Caster-Mengele have?

Or are you taking about metaphorical nazis?
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>>55202267
Huh, I forgot about that. Could it have possibly been Acht? Or maybe just another homunculi.
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>>55202293
Dies Irae is one of the jumps Val is going to make after F/GO. It has Magic Nazis.
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>>55202087
Now Im wondering how many seasons a level 100 would last in dbz.

How many yamchas equal an Ainz?
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>>55202051
>At the very least GT is now done and ready for fluff, didn't take long, so that should be done soonish.
Excellent.
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>>55202328
Im looking for the high res short hair ss4 front picture that occasionally gets posted, got that one?
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>>55202327
Nobody has resistance to instant death effects. Ainz would do really well if he acted smart.

Anyone else would get slaughtered by Master Roshi on up, though. None of them can pop the moon.
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>>55202327
Considering Roshi and Piccolo both blow up the moon pretty early... I'd say you're looking more at late-ish Dragon Ball, instead of reaching Z.

Goddamnit, Captcha, that's same exact image for the tenth time or so.
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>>55202356
The problem with Ainz isn't that he can't kill people, it's that he's not going to be able to hit anyone past mid Dragon Ball at latest.
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>>55200560
>Neptunia next
>Anon Heart watches with great excitement

>>55201227
I cursed my own name so that whenever anyone said it, my theme song would play in the minds of anyone who heard it for the next 36 hours straight while their shadows danced. It played loudly enough that they couldn't hear anything else. Needless to say, they stopped saying it pretty damn quickly.
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>>55202374
Eh, a lot of them try to tank or deflect energy blasts. Especially dealing with someone cocky like Vegeta or Cell, Ainz has potential.
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>>55202374
He can cast timestop, ready an impossible to escape dot sphere of instant death spells around the enemy and then resume time so they all hit immediately.
Sauce on timestop is a drama CD that was referenced in one of the later novels. He uses the readied spells to make a Christmas Tree-like effect.
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>>55202415
A lot of them also charge in for a punch or flurry of blows to start the match or respond to energy blasts with their own. Even Vegeta and Cell do the same.

Sure, there might be a few people but...unless Ainz knows to do that and go for just instant death spells, I really don't think he'll last. And even if he does, his survival is pretty much purely luck based until he finds someone he can't get to stand there and tank his shots, since anyone returning fire, even if they die from his fire, will kill him with ease.
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>>55202449
Timestop can be escaped and it requires him to cast it faster than his opponents can attack him which will rapidly become impossible for him once the series approaches and shatters the FTL barrier.
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>>55201227
My companions mostly.
Actually, I didn't really do much. Laid low for the first three years. When the Pentawizard Playoffs happened, I flexed my metaphorical dick and wiped the floor with the playoffs and concurrent dueling tournament. Fifth year, I used my reputation as someone not to be fucked with in order to whip everyone into shape. Granted, it was mainly because I could, since sixth year I told Dumbles where all the horcruxes were, so he took care of them. Seventh year was chill, basically I just knocked off and knocked up until Voldie invaded.

Turns out, tank does beat everything.
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>>55202349
Took a bit of searching... You mean this one?
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>>55202364
I think they'd be able to handle everyone in DB except the four strongest people. Goku, Piccolo Jr., Piccolo Daimao, and Master Roshi. The fifth strongest, Tien (don't start the vs. Krillin debate, Tien at this time is unambiguously stronger), is probably someone they could beat.
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>>55202480
>knocked up
does that mean what I think it means?? who did you knock up?
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At the risk of being called a powerwanker, maybe we should revisit Multiverse?

At the time it was made, "you have to win the tournament" was considered a balance for the powerlevels it offered, but this seems somewhat unnecessary now that we have multiple Dragon Ball jumps. At the very least, maybe add a 0 CP option for a gauntlet-style "you start with 0 CP but have to take drawbacks to get more, and you don't get sent home if you lose but also don't get to keep what you bought here unless you win."

This is only partially motivated by my desire to do a DB->Z->Super->Multiverse->GT->AF chain that ultimately leaves me physically ill at the thought of training.
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>>55202515
Yes, it means exactly that.
As for who, well let's see. Two Companions, Pansy, Hermione, Hannah. So yeah, big family. Though, I'm pretty sure Lavender's wasn't mine despite her claims otherwise.
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>>55202532
I'm quite happy with it as is now. I might update it in the future but for now, I think it fits itself as it is. It's about the tournament as the main feature, not about the rest of the series.
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>>55202548
>Not Luna
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>>55202586
Luna would make a terrible mother. Also, I find her annoying as fuck.
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Hello /JC/!
How does anyone feel about spoilers in the context of a jump document? (As in, the jump spoiling things for the actual work)

Also, Which would you rather prefer for a capstone:
A: Copy a power, slightly diminished, from a boss-level foe.
B: One-Up.
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>>55202595
>Hating Luna
We're enemies now.
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>>55202603
Nothing wrong with Having a pair of capstones
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>>55202603
All Jumps spoil the heck out of things. Don't worry about it. Also "A" is better if there can only be one.
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Is there a greater villain in the chain than Son Goku? Who else will/has destroyed 7 entire universes?
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>>55202595
I pity you anon. Also, no Cho??
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>>55202615
I don't hate her, I just find her irritating.
I still helped her out with her bullying situation though.
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>>55202603
Often unavoidable. Even if you make efforts to not have spoilers in the doc itself, people may just discuss it openly in thread anyway. And some things may be innate spoilers just knowing of their existence, yet be important enough to be weird to leave out of the doc. And then any dangerous or hazard spoilers probably get screamed about sooner than later, so you might as well mention those.

Basically, I reckon if you're reading the jump of something, you're prepared for the fact it may contain spoilers.
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>>55202624
Goku's an idiot, but the fault ultimately rest with Zen-O.
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>>55202603
>How does anyone feel about spoilers in the context of a jump document? (As in, the jump spoiling things for the actual work)
Jumps very, very often have spoilers in them. It's near-unavoidable, and not something you should worry about.

Personally, I don't have a preference between those two. Depends on which one's more flavorful, I suppose? Copying things and one-ups aren't really something I'm interested in myself.
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>>55202485
YOU ARE A SAINT. Thank you.
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>>55202670
You're welcome, anon.
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>>55202603
It depends on what the spoiler is, and how essential it is to know about it for the perk or items. If the spoiler underpins the whole idea of one of the perks, there's just no avoiding it.

Personally I try to keep spoilers blacked out in the notes, so that they're there if people want them, but not casually displayed for the people who are skimming the jump and decide "hey this is interesting, I should read/watch/play the source material first".

Eg: I originally intended to keep spoilers out of the end of the Matthew Reilly Universe jump notes, but when it was in WIP some of the anons I showed the draft to said they preferred to be able to look up those points in the jump, to be sure they could handle the setting rather than have to look shit up on tvtropes.
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>>55201227
Despaired at how incompetent my peers were, sneered a lot, got showed up by a Mudblood of all things, played Quidditch with that precious St. Potter, disappointed my father, felt confused feelings towards... Granger, married her some years later, had lots of blonde, big toothed kids.

I may have just possessed Draco Malfoy for the whole Jump
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How dangerous is the X-Men Movies jump? Do I have to worry about Apocalypse/The Phoenix/whoever blowing up the planet or something?
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>>55202711
That image inspired my most embarrassing piece of writefaggotry.
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>>55202754
depends if you butterfly the plot or not
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>>55202603
It can be rather hard not to spoil things in jumps, and I don't care in general about spoilers. Also A, I don't care at all about one ups, so actually I would choose literally anything else.
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>>55202756
You're anon, no one will ever be able to connect it to you if you post it.
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>>55202158
What is GT?
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>>55202904
Dragon Ball Grand Tour. The unpopular original continuation of Z.
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>>55202904
What isn't GT? It's a anime only sequel series to Dragon Ball Z.
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>>55202904
Dragon Ball GT is the same concept as Xenoverse only as an anime, fans of the the series doing their own thing, continuing where DBZ left off. You have lots of crazy OC shit, but you also have numerous callbacks and hyping up of old villains or concepts. One of the biggest, baddest villains is basically Android 17 only huge.
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>>55202953
Not really? Xenoverse is about serving in a group of time travelers who stop evil time travelers from causing paradoxes and hostile alternate timelines and shit. GT is about traveling throughout the universe looking for super dragon balls so that the world doesn't get blown up, then about hell being released, then about dragon balls releasing shadow dragons.
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>>55202917
Years now, I have not know what the fuck GT stood for. Now I do. Thank you for that anon.
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>>55202953
>>55202979
Also, GT isn't fans. It's official, by Toei.
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>>55202904
Bad, but still sort of popular in some circles.
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For a perk that stops fall damage from less than a certain height, what would be an appropriate height?
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>>55203001
Mostly people just like concepts. "SSJ4 is cool!" "I like the shadow dragons!" shit like that. Nobody praises the story.
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>>55202980
The terrible, terrible rap from the English dub has been burned into my mind.
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>>55203008
Depends entirely on what the other perks have to offer.
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>>55203008
All heights. Terminal velocity is a thing after a certain height, you can only get so fast you see.
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>>55199212
>Maybe the most powerful Beast ever is a Jumper playing with double CP house rules.
OH GODDAMMIT I DIDN'T MEAN FOR IT TO GO THIS FAR! IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO! JUST A PRANK!
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>>55202051
>At the very least GT is now done and ready for fluff
So do you have a full time fluffer, Val, or do you fluff yourself?
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>>55202485
Oh, wow. Who is that and what's she all about?
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>>55199212
>And he can swap genders.

I now imagine the Merlin is the one repsonsible for why so many historical figures are genderbent. He went back in time and changed their genders just to troll everyone in the present, and also maybe because he's a massive pervert.
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>>55203108
Given his propensity to slap dicks on people who didn't have dicks prior, I'd say that Merlin has a sense of humor, some particular perclivities, or both
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Marve
1990 marvel
20 yo male
Nyc
Student 900
Body, brains, Power armor, vibranium, adamantium, webshooters, shapeshifting, healing factor -600

Drawbacks
Mutant -300
Parker luck 0

I think I may be a super hyper tough shapeshifting robot, whi h considering how heavy adamantium is means I have a lot of mass to play with. I can blens in or turn into a battlebot, yay! I wonder if I count as valid for armor imports now...
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>>55203087
Mostly a solo job but here and there I get an extra pair of hands to help out.
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>>55198844
Swords and sorcery has a room that is stated as being perfect for rituals and your magic. Amulet of set is a good focus/amplifier. Dresden is all about ritual magic but you'd need anti corruption, or something to alter the magic system (weakness of beatrice) to avoid that issue.

>>55198860
She figured out the meta plot and gave into despair, deciding it was hopeless and is cutting loose for one last shebang before she loses her beloved master forever. You snap her out of it in the final battle in her route. You also snap her out of it in true ending but that is another story.

>>55199044
Wish for a kind heart, common sense, and a desire for improving the lives of others over personal gain. "That is beyond my power, Jumper." -Genie probably

>>55199067
The Gacha.

>>55199154
SPIN, SPIN, SPIN.

>>55199690
Why do we even need jumps besides the original pokemon trainer? They're pretty much all the same, anyway: You go to another world, spend points for benefits, take drawbacks to screw yourself over, and collect as many goodies/waifus/favorite characters for ten years. Same layout, too.

>>55200098
Stop, look around you. Your jump zero already is one. Start writing.

>>55200270
Gold Sherbert.

>>55200941
I use panty and stocking's box of art when I need highbrow literature for recreation.

>>55201227
Be as obnoxiously American as possible and instill fear into britbong wizards wherever possible.
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>>55203141
>Body, brains, Power armor, vibranium, adamantium, webshooters, shapeshifting, healing factor

Dude you are basically Mega Ultron+ with the ability to blend in. You have like 2 gokus worth of defense there plus regen and shapeshifting.

Seriously the only downside is that your shapeshifting will probably be slow and you weigh a literal ton.
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>>55200853
Nah. Red's made plenty of good jumps, buy Bayonetta's merely an aight jump.
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>>55203216
Many hands do make for light work. I love your willingness to play along.
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>>55203240
>tfw you can't decide between LArturia and JAlter
Would they get along?
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>>55203300
I aim to please.
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>>55203240
Why is tittymonster Arturia best Arturia?
And best waifu?
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>>55203320
Probably not, JAlter probably hates the English for you know, burning her to death and LArturia is the queen of Britain.

There'd definitely be some tension there.
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>>55203240
I don't think that's what he meant.

Even if humans had never existed at all, THIS Earth is doomed anyway - if nothing else, in about 500 million years its home star will turn the heat up too high for multicellular life to keep going. Humanity itself is doomed because no species can exist in perpetuity, and thus a slow decline as means to extend its lifespan fail is inevitable.

I think he wants stories where what he described happened, but didn't HAVE to happen.
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>>55203363
>There'd definitely be some tension there.

Sexual tension ?
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>>55203389
One would want to murder the other tension.
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>>55203320
They have a lot in common. They both play with large poles on the battlefield, and have the same favorite. I don't see why they wouldn't.

>>55203351
Probably because she was designed as a waifu, reinforced by her interlude and Merlin wing manning for you.
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>>55203363
Arturia was king of the people who lived in Britain before the Saxon invasions, and even after before the Norman conquest. She has nothing to do with the people that Joan fought outside of geography.
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>>55203430
Do you think JAlter would care about any of that? She's kind of the person to see someone as English and therefore the enemy.

Regular Joan would probably be more understanding though.
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>>55203240
Those are some shitty fucking wishes, desu.
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>>55201227
Grew some off-the-books shit with Professor Sprout. We shared with most of the faculty.
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>>55203645
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>>55203351
You haven't seen her legs.
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>>55203256
Yeah but could i take the hulk when he shows up and is my vibran/adamantium robot body immune to magneto?
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>>55203810
Magneto's gonna string you up and make you dance like the fatass you are.
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>>55203823
I was afraid of that. Guess I need to put these big robot brans to work creating a anti magnet sheild.

Or just use magic. I have a lot of magic. This is my first sciend jump and Im 20 jumps in.
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Can anyone tell me if this is finished or not?
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>>55203878
Qus said it was, but he doesn't seem to be interested in feedback or answering queries. So I'm not sure if it's accepted
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>>55203416
>They both play with large poles on the battlefield
hot
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>>55203996
Ah, shame. Feels like there could be a lot more done with it.
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>>55203996
Just like Softanon, huh? Looks like this might become a trend if jumpmakers keep getting away with it.
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>>55204039
>>55203996
Hate to say it but he seems to have a bad habit of dropping stuff in thread then leaving and never answering a single question. I dont agree with harrassing folks but damn is it annoying.
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>>55203759
I was Ravenclaw, actually.
Sprout is the Herbology teacher. It's her forte. But Flitwick was totally down with it.
I had to brew all of my 'special potions' by myself, because Snape was still an antisocial asshole, despite my machinations in Fantastic Beasts.
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>>55204114
Well he actually did answer stuff for us, anon.
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>>55204114
Maybe your questions were dumb.
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>>55204144
Yeah he did but he seemed to only answer maybe 2 questions out of 10 then disapeared for 2 hours. Most makers stay around to do a quick q and a if only to fix their own mistakes.

>>55204180
I asked 1 question like 5 threads ago, and it was answered. Still others asked more.
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>>55204039

If you have time to shitpost then you have time to make a White Album 2 jump.
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>>55204269
The Beetles?
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>>55204269
Arrest that loli for indecent exposure!
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>>55203996
Well it doesn't look like it's on the drive right now. So it might not be.
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Can`t link it because I`m phoneposting, but SB is being dumb again and trying to powergame the World of Cultivation jump, and technically I see nothing preventing it. Aionon should probably change the relevant part of the jump to shut that down.
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>>55204474
>SB

Fuck off.
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>>55204416
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B__iKij2sIJLbnBncTFoVXBoLUk/view

Uploads folder
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>>55204474
SB powergaming another jump. Also, the sky is blue. More at 11.
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>>55204474
First screw what sb is doing because they are there and this is here.

Second woc was just worked on last night what the hell could they have come up in that amount of time that wasn't there before?
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>>55204525
Are you not SB yourself Ricky, or at the very least QQ?
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>>55204474
>webm related
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>>55204557

Both, but I don't bring it to the thread unless someone asks.
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>>55204558
I find it funny that the people he's flipping off are just grinning and accepting it. They don't really seem to care.
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>>55204600
Those were simpler times, when only nazis were nazis and political violence was something sandpeople did
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>>55204600
He'd probably eat a bucket of shit if he thought that'd upset them.
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>>55204650
There's something to be said for someone who commits to the part
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>>55204646
>when only nazis were nazis
So the same as ever?
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>>55204666
That's the joke, Satan-kun
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>>55204646
>political violence was something sandpeople did
I didn't realize my country was run by sand people.
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>>55204694
You must've missed the single-file tracks and occasional cries of... what was that sound again? HRUUUUHURHURHUR or something?
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>>55204576
>No tiddies
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>>55204732
Then why are you such a faggot?
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>>55204720
Something like that, yeah. Also, there's that tendency to torture mothers to death and be slaughtered by vengeful psychic sons.
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>>55204694
It's not political violence if you're a superpower and its overseas
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>>55204775
You know, it seems Tusken Raiders have some very inefficient ideas about governance.

I mean, fallen Jedi killing not just the men, but the women and the children, is no basis for a stable state.
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