Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for The Deathwatch.

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All for the Greater Good!

>Gravis Chad Captain has a default master-crafted power sword
>Normal Chad Captain is limited to a normal power sword

Why ?

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Fourth for the siege master

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>>55188235
>trying to seize the means of painting

get out commie

>>55188266
beergut means he has to compensate

>>55188266
Have to chug a lot more BUD Light to get DAT good sword dawg

What are you working on this weekend /40kg/?

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>>55188288
psh, get outta here before I Alpharius your ass

So, can i use Codex sheet for my TSon Rubrics?

Skulls kit is so good

Wtf I love GW now

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T'aus would be much cooler if close-combat weaponry was standard issue on their battlesuits. Just like Terminators have a standard gun/fist basic equipment for both mid-range and close range, it would be awesome if Crisis battlesuits had a default 2 guns and one blade.

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Is he right to do the things he does?

>>55188364
Went to play with a friend, ended up just hanging out so I guess I'll keep assembling the shit I just got

>>55188376
Not really. He's mostly selfish.

>>55188375
Farsight melee suits would be neat.

>>55188364
Finish two predators, a 6+1AB bike squad, weather my sicaran battle tank and sicaran venator..

Probably all I can be bothered with.

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>>55188366
Last time u tried to btfo perturabo it didnt work so well

>>55188364
Spent several hours painting orange on all my poxwalkers. Takes so long now that I'm doing two thin coats.

Makes you wish for one thick coat.

>>55188364
Im at work, but I have a half my army to paint, a Chadnaught waiting to be build and 10 more intercessors coming home. And I still haven't brought the paint to make the highlights on my dudes.
The ride never ends.

>>55188094
>>55186994
>I want to combine a Battlefleet Gothic game and a warhammer 40k game. I don't really know much about BFG, but...

If you want to play the two simultaneously, you could try having a king of the hill style BFG match and whoever controls a specific point on that board at the end of each round BFG round has "firing position" on the 40k board.

I think there's already a stratagem or scenario in 8th that does something like this, but whoever controls "the hill" that round gets to place some old templates and then scatter them before the movement phase.

number of shots to be determined by ships in the zone or something.

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How can I include a LRC in an Inquisition list? Do I have to ally muhreens?

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>>55188364
Primaris are fun to paint.

>>55188407
It was retconned.

It was 50/50 till Guilliman came. Lmao with a huge fortress and surprise all the Iron Weenies could achieve is 50/50.

>>55188434
holy fuck that's sexy as shit boii

>>55188443
How did you make the black part? That's really good, anon.

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>>55188445
Not mine tho :(

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>>55188455
It was pretty easy in practice; black basecoat, thin layer of Eshin Grey (effectively a really heavy handed drybrush), lighter drybrush of Fenris Grey (the bluegrey Space Wolf one) for highlighted areas then a wash of Nuln Oil. It looks nice in person, my camera photos aren't the best.

>>55188536
It looks pretty cool on photos too. Thanks, might copy you.

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>Dark Angels and Space Wolves will get their Primarch soon
Sucks to be a Blood Angel, anons.

>>55188444
>50/50

Imagine believing this,who retconned the battle?matty ward?

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>>55188094
When painting or assembling, do any of you use loupes, jewelers lenses, or other magnification devices, either hand-held, worn, lamp-attached or otherwise freestanding?

>>55188656
Salamanders will get them before them.

>>55188661
no because it'd show the minor imperfections in my paint job, so i'd feel bad and stop painting

>>55188672
Yes but Blood Angels will never get theirs.

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Have we learned anything about the new armors besides they're Better™. What sets Mark X Tacticus apart from Mk. 8? Or what determines who gets to wear Gravis armor? Terminator Captains are (usually) captains of the 1st Company. Is a Gravis Captain a Primaris captain of a 1st?

>>55188364
Some mark 2 assault marines for a HH escalation league that's happening in my area. Turns out there will be 8 legions including me and some mechanicum. Im hyped af.

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>>55188661
I use pic related. I prefer it over tablelights

>>55188704
>InB4 Sanguinius faked his death.

>>55188704
That's for the better. The ultimate retcon is making a noble sacrifice in spite of knowing where he was heades, moot.

>>55188762
He sacrificed himself without knowing he was going to be revived. It doesn't detract from the nobility of his sacrifice because he made it in ignorance of the future.

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>"Sir, it's coming up on the 30th anniversary of warhammer 40k! Fans will want a model in honor of it."
"Well I'll be damned, 30 years already. So much money, so little time"
>"yes sir. But as I was saying, fans expect a commemorative release."
"I guess. What's the options?"
>"well, since a boxed set or game is out, maybe we should pick one of the time-honored factions?"
>"oh? Like what?"
>"Orks obviously, or perhaps a unique member of the ecclesiarchy- people love the old style!"
"no, the damn forgejews are stealing that from us. No necromunda, and no orks- who would buy orks?"
>"uh, yes sir. Well then how about a space marine? You can't get more icon-
"Yes, a space marine! Perfect!"
>"great idea sir, we've never released a commemorative space marine model before. Perhaps a beakie, or a rebrand of the classic mk 7 armor?"
"Wait, didn't we just release some space marines..."
>"yes sir, the primaris marine line."
"AHA! Primaris marines, that's it. Make a thousand primaris marines"
>"well sir, the lack of individuality on primaris may mean the model will turn out bla-"
"Yes, it'll be simple and elegant. What a better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary of warhammer 40k than with a model from a brand new line that looks the same as the rest and captures that uncluttered sleek and modern look of the early games?"
>"..... yes sir."

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>>55188364
Same thing as last weekend and probably same as next weekend

>>55188820
This model looks like you can build it from normal primaris(boltgun ones) box, why it cot so much.
Last year Marine was unique.

>>55188820
>the lack of individuality on primaris
This was probably the worst thing about the 30th anniversary model
I like the Primaris sculpts in general, but the one they used for the anniversary is almost literally something you'd get from the Intercessor kit with a sword glued on the hip. I know they want to push the new hotness, but why couldn't they have done a unique looking model? The Gravis Captain for example, while I know not everyones cup of tea, is at least a distinct look that you're not going to get from a basic kit, I can't understand why they didn't do something like that.

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>>55188235
Speaking of Tau, I want to build a small force for Shadow War Armageddon.

I'd like a small SWAT team feeling unit, like think Rainbow Six Siege or Xcom kind of, and I was wondering what army should go with.

Deathwatch was considered for a bit, but I want someone less gothic and more tacticool looking, so I was thinking Raptor space marines, but I already have a Salamanders army as my primary force.

So I was thinking either Tempestus Scions or Tau for this then.

Tau might be fun for like having Breachers and Pathfinders, and some stealth suits running around, maybe a Tidewall shieldwall instead of riot shields and a Devilfish SWAT van, and lots of drones.

>>55188434
Just include a marine one in your detachment. You don't need any other marines if you don't want them. You're using the Imperial tag anyway and your Inquisitior and Acolytes have "Authority of the Inquisition" so they can ride in it regardless.

>>55188820
I must have missed this bit of news. Is that literally just an Intercessor with a couple extra skulls, a sword, a rope and a purity seal? That could be the regular sarge from the box and I wouldn't blink at it. Hell, it could be a regular squaddie.

Then again I play Admech, so I'm bad at distinguishing Marine models since they mostly look the same and I just look at the weapons. Does this guy have some kind of deep lore explanation for all his shit, or is that as much of a meh vet sarge as he looks?

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>>55188364
Painting Stealth Suits and hoping to get a Ghostkeel built.

>>55189041
That looks like red baby mecha piloting bigger mecha, kek.

>>55189068
>Who run Bartertown?

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>>55188656
Gimmee dat motherfucking Khan. Primarch on a fucking jetbike.

>>55189068
Fight me bitch the Ghostkeel is the only mecha looking stuff in the entire Tau line.

>>55189001
Unfortunately breachers arent in SWA

I'm making a primaris army and none of you can dissuade me. I'm also making a deathguard army. My wallet cries but it's going to keep me sane.

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>>55188661
I have one of these and use it every once in a while. More to look for things I missed rather than while painting. Mainly though I just got it because Ottlites are damned good lamps for being color neutral.

>>55188820
Ya, I was sort of angry when they released an averagish looking sergeant for the big 30. Not even apart of the history, lame.

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>>55189123
>picks two factions that share a constant stream on new, easy to build starter boxes
>Complains about cost
Oh boo hoo, you pansy

>>55188944
No kidding. It's basically a plain Primaris with a purity seal, sword, and slightly fancy shoulder pad from an upgrade sprue added.

>>55189120
What is?

Also not specifically SWA, we play like 1000 pt games on 4'x4' maps with tight multi-level urban terrain, and the only thing stoping you from taking large models is them not physically fitting through hallways

>>55189165
Paths are the main troop

>>55188661
Seeing as I won't be using them when playing, no.

>Obliterators: 4 Assault S6+D3 -D3 D3 shoots, 65pts
>SoT /w Soulreaper: 4 Heavy S5 -3 1D shoots, 60pts

Scarab Occult buffs when?

>>55189206
Most likely never, but if there are any changes, expect to see them in the TS Codex

>no pre-orders until the 9th
>no release until the 16th
>no participation in Konor
>complete blackout on tons of new models until the very last fortnight until their release
Why were the Death Guard handled so poorly? It's ironic that the Death Guard are viewed as DOA by GW.

>>55189223
Sauce or stfu

>>55189267
sauce on what?

>>55189223
"Poorly" is overstating things quite a bit. Although I agree the timing of Konor is awkward.

>>55189290
Primaris got lots of piecemeal releases and leaks. Death Guard got the Konor fudge video and the Codex: DG "first look" which was a fucking disaster since all it really showed was the front page of the codex that they already revealed a few months before.

>>55189206
Aren't they Psykers? And have several other bonus rules?

>>55189306
We'll probably see more previews this week.

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Anyone ever ordered anything from laura.hook on ebay? I'm tempted to snag one of his Leviathans but I haven't heard anything about the quality of his recasts.
Anyone have an experience with him here?

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So I've been combing my Admech bitzbox for Servitorpriest heads (had just enough) and I found that I actually DID have quite a few parts I'd thought I'd used. Apparently that gun on my Knight base was a Chimera heavy stubber rather than the Ironstrider Autocannon I thought it had been, since I never actually made a Ballistarii.

Anyway, I have a couple spare Sicarian bodies and an idea. What if I made Admech assassins as Alpha or Princeps Primus models for my squads? I run two Arquebus teams, so I could redo an Enginseer with a holstered Dragoon rifle on his back and pistol drawn as a Vindicare, use some Infiltrator body and parts bulked up some with armour and different weapons as a Culexus Infiltrator Primus (Better neurostatic as explanation for debuff aura) Ruststalker with the same and some toxic vials as the explosive death of the Vindicare and so on.

No idea what to do for the Callidus, though. Is this a retarded idea, or can Admech benefit from Assassin allies? Almost 300 points of 4 Arquebi + Vindicare is probably too many snipers, though.

>>55189319
They have Psyker that can only cast Smite, which does 1/D3. If he perils, you'll probably lose him and another terminator, so it's not that good. They have "All is Dust" which allow them to ignore Heavy penalty and gives them +1 to saves when damage of enemy weapon is 1.

They are equipped with Inferno Combi-bolters, which are -2 combis, can get single Soulreaper and a Hellfyre Missilerack. They also rock power swords.

However, they are really fucking expensive for what they do, and are just straight up worse than Obliterators, as both units are supposed to drop in and shoot up enemies.

How tall is an IG sentinel? Working on a count-as for my renegades and heretics. Going to have an autocannon or flamer on it for the ranged weapon

>>55189362
*explosive death of the Eversor, that should be/.

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>>55189372
Ignore the dedgame minis.

>>55189366
Just saying. If SO had equal or better guns than them the Oblits wouldn't have much point.

Are people at local gameshop tournies any good in your opinion? I was going into play today and the whole back room was booked so now I am wondering if I should get in on it next time

>>55189419
SOs can only be taken in TS armies, who can't take Obliterators.

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How hard are these fellas to magnetize? Is it worth it or should I just go boltstorm? The flamestorm seem like they'd be fun.

>>55189447
It's really easy to "ally in" oblits.

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>>55188364

trying to finish these sabre platforms / searchlights

also, recovering from the despair of accidentally mailing 3 bunkers I ordered to my old address

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>>55189022
I flipped through the book again, is "Imperium" basically an army now? Like you can just throw whatever units together?

>>55189456
I like those guys. I like them a lot less when I realize how much something like a twin assault cannon can hurt hem.

>>55189501

Pretty much, but they won't benefit from a lot of the character buffs and abilities which only activate units with more specific tags, like "<astra millitarum> infantry models". You can still fill detachments with any Imperial units, though, synergy will just be less spectacular.

Are Hellblasters worth their price on the battlefield ?

>>55188740
And what the fuck happened to mk 9?

>>55189609
Same thing as windows 9

>>55189568
I mean don't Terminators basically have the same problem?

>>55189340
No, but thank you for the namedrop.

t. GW legal dpt.

>>55189634
well they've a 17% higher chance to save it.

God damn, today's thread is slow.

>>55189491
Sorry mate, but that's thing is fucking awful.
You'd literally be better of just using a a dollarstore toy instead.

>>55189693
It's because it'split with a 2 day old thread with no cover image, backlink or pasta.

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Orks

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*sips tea*

>UK chaos players are getting whooped that hard
Use soul grinders! (and titans and knights)

>>55189737
Nice... but drill that barrel.

>>55189750
Well, if those other chapters didn't want to get purged, they should have been Space Wolves.

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Considering starting an Excorsists 2k force now that my steel confessors army is mostly done, is this a good idea?

If so, what would I use in the army? I figure primaris are off the table, but an emphasis on librarians and Scouts sounds fun. also what CT? RG would fit fighting daemons, but maybe salamanders for expensive gear?

>>55189634
Not really- both dudes get wounded on 3's, but the terminators at least have their better save to rely on, plus termies pack a hell of a better punch in shooting.

The real wrench to throw at both is an autocannon, if you're IG or chaos you MUST take them, it fucking destroys marine assault armies. Same thing with shining spears, they merc aggressors

>>55189750
true

>>55189608
in almost all cases yeah

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>>55189693
I want to talk about my guys but I have no excuse to... I've been super busy so no games yet.
Il go in to the shop tomorrw to see whos around.

>>55189671
That's right. Moreover, Termies have a 5++, which is always nice to have when the enemy has weapons with high penetration.

The Aggressors are a bit fragile for their cost. They only have W2, which is the same as a normal Chadmarine. Their save is 3+, which is also the same. They have no invul, and no FNP. Their only extra defence is their T of 5, and that's negated by tons of weapons with S6 or S7. It's just as easy to kill an Agressor than an Intercessors with a non-supercharged Plasma weapon or an Assault Cannon.

And you can't deep strike them, or transport them in anything else than a Repulsor.

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>>55189750
That's why BAs will always be superior to SWs.

>>55189788
Exorcists have primaris.

They roll in different "cults" in addition to their companies. All the devastators have a cult, all the vets have a cult, etc. So you could do a themed army like that.

Could use grey knights for your psykers/veterans. Same geneseed.

>>55189788
they can totally be Primaris

the thing about Exorcists is that they force recruits to undergo and overcome demonic possession
that can be done to a primaris

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>>55189905
Oh. So they're the same as grey Knights in terms of ability and daemon-hunting background, but GK can't have primaris because...?

>>55189750
Wait, who are the space iriquois?

>>55189340
>>55189646

That profile was taken down for a while so I sent them a message. They replied that they also have a website War table games (all one word) where they sell the same items as eBay but a bit cheaper and you get loyalty discounts.

Just ask for a PayPal invoice.

If this advice helped you, send them a message asking to get some Chaos Hell Talons in stock they said they would if it was popular/asked for :D

>>55189949
Originally? Dark Angels. They've lost that since.

>>55189949
>>55189961
I thought RG?

>>55189340
>>55189954
if the site is theirs then I can say that I've got a 50/50 positive experience
Bought Krieg engineers and then the 30k spess mereens Legion Praetors kits
Kriegers are 10/10 quality, and the praetors are garbage
that could also be because of bad FW products who knows

>>55189923
This isn't a GW affiliated site, so not the place to get an answer.

Does anyone have the new art for Mortarion and Typhus?

Seen it posted several times but can't find it in the archive.

>>55189923
Here's exorcists fluff 101:

>be ordo malleus
>be killin demons with GK buddies
>wish we had more of these guys they're p gud
>decide to create budget GKs in the cursed founding with modified GK geneseed
>they're not all gonna be psykers cause we wanna have TONS OF these dudes
>so instead we're gonna summon a daemon into them, then they gotta banish it on their own
>no coteaz, you are the daemons
>this will make them near invisible to daemons
>perfect plan, nothing could go wrong
>except for that time things went horribly wrong and we created a renegade chapter that started fighting the Black Dragons for some reason
>also they have a bunch of extra scouts, which is totally not because we wanted an overstrength chapter

Since they're only GK lite, and they're not made the same way, the primaris upgrades work on them.

So titanic feet, do they actually hit 3 times or are the 3 dice just a higher chance to hit

>>55189362

If that Mech-Assassin holding a Nerf Maverick?

>>55189750
That's legit pretty funny.

Mind you ever since ice weapons and hover chariots it's basically been a joke of a faction anyway. Even in HH their lore sucks now. Shame...

>>55189989
That's a shame! I've only ordered a few nid and Eldar things and they've all been fine except for one carnifex weapon that I didn't care about anyway.

>>55190055
I did give them a new chance by ordering some termies recently so we'll see if that bumps the 1/2 into a 2/3

>>55190025

*Glances into toybox*

Apparently so. Apparently either priceless relics are used as weapons regardless of efficiency over a regular laspistol or it's Magos Teamwork Course day.

>>55190121

The fucking Nerf Maverick is damn near everywhere. There's half a dozen good bits stores that sell versions of them, including based Victoria Miniatures, and I'm wondering if a lot of artists either own one for fun and use it as a reference, or it's just a fun design they find when looking up gun references online.

Or it's an inside joke. There's often inside jokes like that amongst communities. Hide the Maverick in the artwork and see who notices, like how writers on shows make hacking look over-the-top on purpose, or how sound guys always sneak in the Wilhelm Scream.

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>>55189750
Wow, I also have this

>>55189757
I believe the barrel is drilled, so it is

why the fuck is the thread so dead

>>55189491
Is the green stuff there as a place holder like people sometimes do with putty? If not remove it before painting.

>>55190479
40k is ded

>>55190511
I thought that was hh tho

>>55189084
how bad woul it be if the khan fell to slaanesh?

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>>55190004
This?

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>>55190479
It's Saturday and /tg/ is out playing ga-BAHAHAHAHA oh wow couldn't quite finish saying it

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>>55189750
wew space furries btfo

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>>55190004
here you go senpai

>>55190479
Its been slow for a week or so.

We're not really slow on news either. Can't really say what it is.

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>>55189491

I see your IG as a strong Ork theme...

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>i want plastic sisters

>>55190593
Why?

What's the appeal?

Humour me.

>>55189750
>>55190303
Thing is, the Celestial Lions were a normal chapter of 1k marines. Space Wolves have 12 great companies rumoured to be as large as a standard chapter. It's not as simple a task to rout them (heh) as it would be an xth-founding chapter like the CL.

>>55190579
Kids getting ready to go back to school, out buying new shoes with mommy convincing her they're good boys and deserve a gaming laptop so they can homework faster

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Should they have just released the chads as new models in a different scale instead of making up a total skub plot line with some serious Cawl Ex Machina that they now have to live with from here on?

>>55190303
Maybe the Emperor was a closet furry.

>>55188375
People already pointlessly call them weebs as it is. That said, I'd be down for Farsight Enclaves having different models with better melee capabilities.

I'm having a hard time deciding my 8th edition army. I played Harlequins/Dark Eldar all through 7th so I want to shy away from Eldar armies. The only army I know I don't want to play is Tyranids/GSC. I'm more of a painter/modeller than I am a super competitive guy but I do travel to several major events a year so I'd like something that I can take home a few games with.

>>55190613
The 12 'great companies' are roughly a hundred marines each. Stop defending mary sue writing.

>>55189041
Damn, I love the look of the Ghostkeel and Stealths

>>55189068
...and now I can't unsee.

>>55189112
Uh. What about every other big battlesuit?

>>55190673
>I'm more of a painter/modeller
orks or renegade /heretics.
the options man, the options.

you can make everything and if it looks cool people will complement you nonstop.
Especially ork kit building instructions are suggestions at best and you can loot whatever kit you like.

>>55190303
>they're probably fucking
What?

>>55190673

It\s pretty good time to start Death Guard now.

>>55190672
Who cares. Fuck it, go maximum weeb
Enclaves wargear already includes fusion blaster swords for the *pss nothing personnel slices through tank*

>>55190724

R&H were a possible but the rules are fucking awful. If I were to go R&H I'd have to go just regular AM right now.

>>55190729

Yeah I was strongly considering chaos in some capacity. I'd like to go maybe a combination of demons and marines.

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>>55190613
SW Great Company is less than 200 strong, and they can only recruit from Fenris.
So not so hard to rout them.

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>>55188375
Give them to the separatists, we don't want use silly melee weapons.

>>55189750
I like the Space Wolves on the grounds of the hilarious amounts of butthurt they inspire. Every TS player is reduced to autistic screeching at their mere mention. It's fantastic.

>>55190023
Hit 3 times. Basically triple your attacks if you use them.

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>>55189710

At least you're honest. Here's an updated photo, still bad?

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Why do Nurgle players do this?

DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE A SPACE WOLF IS FREE
YOU ARE A SPACE WOLF!

YARR HARR FIDDLE DEE DEE
BEING A SPACE WOLF IS ALRIGHT WITH ME
DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE A SPACE WOLF IS FREE

YOU ARE A SPACE WOLF (YAY!)

>>55189750

yo wtf now I want to sell my Space Woofs

>>55190749
>Farsight's scientists reverse-engineer Necron teleportation technology.
>Fusion blades standard equipment on every stealth suit squad
>nothin personnel, gue'la

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R8H8 FLUFFY SHARKS
I have 28 points to burn. Maybe upgrade 2 storms to have asscannons or something.

Carcharodons 2000pts CP 7
Ravenguard Tactics

Battalion +3CP
>HQ
Librarian w/Sword and PP
Captain w/Chainsword and Combi-Melta + Teeth of Terra

>Troops
Scouts with Shotguns x5
Scouts with Shotguns x5
Scouts with Shotguns x5

>Dedicated Transport
Landspeeder Storm w/Heavy Bolter
Landspeeder Storm w/Heavy Bolter
Landspeeder Storm w/Heavy Bolter

Vanguard Detachment +1CP
>HQ
Tyberos

>Elite
Tartaros x10 with Lightning Claws
Contemptor Dread w/Asscannon
Company vets x5 w/Meltas and Chainswords
Company vets x5 w/Meltas and Chainswords

>Dedicated
Drop Pod w/Stormbolter
Drop Pod w/Stormbolter

>>55190303
>most chapters try to follow the codex astartes

why are you posting lies?

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>>55190593
>>55190609
sisters are perfect as-is

>>55190823
It would be a good daemon prince if he didn't fuck up the face.

>>55188376
Initially, yes but as the years passed, he compromised and slaughtered his way past the point of no return.

>>55190823
Why is the goblin on his back not at nurgling

Somebody hit me up with a quick tier list

>>55190823
is that fucking yoda hanging on the woody bit

>>55190925
What

>>55190925
> My dudes > your dudes

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>>55190593
One day...one day GW will post a rumor engine article and it will be a closeup of a plastic version of a Simulacrum, sort of like pic related. And in that moment, GW will have created the world's first engine fueled purely by hype and money.
It sucks it may never happen...GW won't make plastic sisters because they don't sell(as metal models). They don't sell because they're fucking metal and metal sucks to work with/can't make nearly as detailed minis despite having a very vocal fanbase. I can't count the number of times I've heard someone say they'd play Sisters if they weren't metal.

>>55190965
>GW doing market research

>>55190944
You heard me, go

>>55190925
imperium
chaos
npc

there

>>55190925
>You
>Me
>Dupree

>Auto Bolt Rifle : 24" Assault 2 S4 AP0 D1
>Bolt Carbine : 24" Assault 2 S4 AP0 D1

Bravo, GW.

>>55190925

Chaos with Malefic Lords
Imp Soup
Whatever other garbage you're interested in

there a way to see the NOVA lists without shelling out money on a shit app?

>>55189165
Pathfinders and drones.

You can bribe ethereals, fireblades, and stealth suits with prometheum.

Everyone loves the Accelerator Drone, but honestly the Recon Drone's burst cannon is hard to ignore.

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>>55191023
>Chaos with Malefic Lords
Lords as in plural? Am i a WAACfag if i only use one? I really like the old metal model.

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>>55191018
I'm stupid. Please explain.

>>55191018
>Assault Cannon
>Heavy 4

>Heavy Flamer
>Assault D6

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>>55190925
lasguns can kill land raiders

>>55191089
you sure are

>>55191084
One is fine, you're a complete cunt if you run a bunch of them.
Especially if you throw Magnus into the mix.

>>55191089
Primaris LMG is the exact same as the Primaris carbine and its retarded

>>55191105
Isn't heavy flamer heavy d6? so you cant advance and shoot it.

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>>55191107
Thank you!

>>55188364
Working on building my other Razorwing jet-fighter, looking forward to raping my Blood Angels playing friend again soon.

>>55190925
Edition and codexes arent all out yet to give definetive answers on which armies are the best and which the worst. Once the big factions all got their codex itll be more obvious.


If you just want to know whats hot shit at tournaments Cheese-spam/Herohammer is still very much alive.

Just like in 7th you see a "Chaos Daemons" list that is almost nothing but magnus, brimstones and now newly added 30pt Psykers in form of malefic lords

Conscript Spam (backed by Artillery)

9 Character-list Gulliman Draigo Celestine and 6 hard-to-hit assassins, completely abusing the way Character targetting is worded

Spacemarine Flyer Spam

>>55191089
The Chadmarines have their own special arsenal that only they can wield. It includes those two weapons, which are variants of the Cawl Pattern Bolt Rifle. The Auto Bolt Rifle is exclusive to the Intercessors, while the Bolt Carbine is exclusive to the Reivers. While they don't look the same, they are, stat-wise, twice the same weapon.

I'm simply amazed that GW has pushed the special snowflake weapon logic so far that they effectively created the same weapon twice, just with different names and looks, just to make sure every new Chad unit has their own little unique rifle.

>>55191134
Huh, you're right.

>>55191134
>>55191105
>sn't heavy flamer heavy d6?
yes and the assault cannon is heavy 6 not 4

>>55191144
Thanks my man, only response worth my time

>>55191105
The asscannon used to be an assault weapon in previous editions, though.

How good are the various assassins in this edition when not being used as character screens in WAAC lists? Wanted to add some more characters to my Admech since I feel I need some section leaders.

Also, how the HELL do you kill stuff like Leviathans and Guilliman? Every game one or two of those smash into my firebase and rip the whole damn thing to bits around Turn 4, since Vanguard screens only last so long.

>>55191193
more laser onigger dunecoons?

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Anyone know any good sources for me to loot some kind of ship's masts from? I wanna make some piratey Battlewagons for my freebootas and that's the only idea I've got going as far as shiplike battlewagons go

>>55191257
dark eldar/aelf ships maybe?

>>55189001
Tau in Armageddon are Pathfinders. Can still work, seeing as how they can all be kitted with pulse carbine. Hell, you can take an Ion Rifle (shotgun/breach tool) and/or a rail rifle (sniper). Cadre Fireblade, Stealth Suit, and Ethereal are your special operatives

Lads, how do i not get raped by psykers as Black Templars? played against a mates thousand wrongs the other day and >70% of the damage he did to me was due to smite mortal wounds, including 9 wounds from one magnus smite onto a land raider which he then punched to death, meaning it died in a single turn. He then survived the charge from 5 hammer Vanguard Vets, 3 5 man tactical squads, a chaplain and the emperors champion. what the fuck do i do against this shit? i know the strategem is there but it doesnt seem enough to deal with it.

Reposing here for ideas since old thread died

Custom chapter I have been thinking about

>My idea is essentially the maimed survivors of isstvan III, mainly ones in sarcophogi strong enough to survive the virus bombimbs, are offered to join the iron hands to continue the fight for the emperor.

>However with many of them being from traitor legions, they refuse to bring that shame upon the IH, especially ones tracing back to fulgrim.

>So they form their own chapter, intimately tied to the IH, but unwilling to truly join them until they repent for their traitor counterparts.

>It would be a dreadnought heavy "chapter" if you can call it that, IH tactics for sure. I think perhaps some color scheme similar to IH but using the heraldry of their previous legion similar to how the deathwatch does it?

>However they wouldn't be a symbol there to show pride in, more like a scar that they wear as penance.

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>>55191257
Just buy a cheap plastic boat model.

>>55191105
>assault cannon doesn't do D3 wounds per successful hit of a 6
fucking gay. i thought their RoF was supposed to be so high that if a single round hit you, 3 more would pass through the same cavity before your brain even registered the impact.

>>55191272
>>55191350
guess I'll go looking around local hobby stores for ships then
also I've got a bit of an itch to get a ravager and turn it into a looted battlewagon
cheers lads

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>>55188364
This little beauty will get some action before the end of the month

>>55191257
sup mugi

Name the coolest Tyranid Forgeworld model

Is there any way to make khaki power armour not look like ass?

>>55190781
This. These >>55189750 & >>55190303 sound like a bunch of butthurt sperging by someone with an axe to grind, little knowledge of what they're talking about and are blind to shit other chapters pull.

>>55191294
Best solution is screening more important units with chaff so the Smite doesn't BTFO your expensive shit, until you killed the offending psyker.
Even with GK I sometimes don't prevent anything from being cast with mediocre deny rolls.

>>55191294
One option is to include Grefax. She's really cheap for the amount of psychic defense she offers and is a fluffy psyker for BTs to include. You could also try a Culexus Assassin. Other than that try to use positioning so Smites have to land on your crusader squads so you're removing neophytes whenever possible.

>>55191018
Nobody tell him about combi-bolters and storm bolters.

>>55191404
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Tyranid

>>55190781
Space Wolves are the chad marines and every other chapter, save Salamanders and Blood Angels, are a bunch of betas. No wonder non-SW players are extremely threatened by Spess Wolves.

>>55191018
Auto Bolt Rifles cost points. Bolt Carbines are free. Because of how point work in 8th giving them different names is useful.

>>55191228
My two are good, yeah, but it's still essentially a slightly better twin lascannon. It's about 2/3 of a Laspred in terms of anti-tank, so they tend to pick a target and hammer it for a couple of turns before actually managing to slag the thing, and that's just against regular Predators and Russes and company. I need something to deal with them when they do get close.

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>>55190847
I already did tbhfam
>I used the spoils to buy death guard

>>55191469
Imperial knight?

>>55190823
He really fucked the face part up, shit.

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>>55191464
Sure mate

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I had a game, a rather interesting game in which I pitted 10 eversor assassins, 2 culexeus assassins, a vindicaire assassin, a chaplain dreadnought, 2 techmarines, Greyfax and a tempestor prime against 1500 points of chaos space marines.
By the bottom of turn 3 all of his infantry, except for one champion, one terminator, and one terminator lord, were dead.
9 possessed vs 7 eversor assassins was something that happened.
a single eversor killed 10 cultists, 6 marines, and 3 terminators without dying.
I lost no models the whole game. What I thought was a joke list was actually frighteningly effective. The real punch came from being able to seal off my advance from deep strikers by spreading out models so he had to land too far away to stop me.

>>55191416
question
what happens when smite needs to target SoS as its the nearest unit.
They cannot be targeted by it.
Also SoS squads reduce the psychic test by 1 PER squad up to -4.
And 5 bolter Sisters are 60points

>>55188364
Currently greenstuffing the heads of my last four electroservitors onto their bodies since I'm now back from camping.
Once they're done and I've done some tweaking to the existing ones and stuck them to their bases I have a few Arquebus Rangers to assemble. Not done them before, do I do the normal body/arms subassemblies before priming or just stick 'em all together since the rifle probably won't stand up without the Ranger there?

>>55191386
I now realise that assasinspam have become the new cancer.
I am now the very thing I hate

>>55191584
It's not my fault 3 eversors put out better damage than 10 vanguard vets for fewer points

>>55191416
>>55191427
my positioning was well off like, his magnus can basically go wherever he wants with his 14" movement, fly and psychic power though so he just moved an inch from my land raider, and he just flew out of the combat after the bucket of dice i threw at him left him with 2 wounds.
From what i hear though magnus can go eat a back of dicks and its hard to lose with him unless your up against bobby G etc.

>>55191410
>>55191464

furries detected
day of the leash when

>>55191344
It's a rarity to find any marines who were around at the time of the massacre, even in dreadnoughts. You'd be hard pressed to field more than a few.

>>55191508
>autistically keeps their dark heretical secret, brutally torturing then murdering anyone who knows about it, prioritising it during war even if their sudden abandonment of objectives causes serious losses to their allies
>vs dudes that seriously don't give a fuck and are perfectly fine to walk with their dicks hanging out even though it's heretical
>>55191635
butthurt beta safespace marine detected. go polish your battle plate some more, faggot.

>>55191508
RETCONNED.

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>>55191528
>In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war, carnage and the laughter of thirsting gods
>and an unholy tide of assasins on every table, in every LGS, on every continent
>and there shall be no end

>>55191669
I agree, which is why I think that it started out as only a handful, 4 or 5. They ran with the IH, with them being some of the only SM units out there willing to accept loyalist defectors to swell their ranks.

Again this is all preliminary so any c/c is welcome

does bringing a stormraven, a leviathan and a vindicare make me WAAC ?

>>55191631
Well Magnus can only do one smite a turn. But if you really, really want to tell smite to fuck off you can Ally in some conscripts/comissars and use them to bubble-wrap your stuff.

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Would you look at the time, looks like it's shitposting o' clock.
Today's topic : a fight between SW furry's and the DA faggots !

>>55191699
The only real abuse with the assassins is Culexus in an all character army. If you're just taking a bunch of Eversors or Vindicares that's not really an issue at all.

>>55191716
i bring it at 1250pts

>>55191699
>muffled WRRRRRRRRRRRY in the distance

>>55191404
As someone who owns them all, the malanthrope or stone crusher parts are my fav. Everything else is dated except the Big D which looks lanky and awful.

The Harridan is the best of the titans by far.

>>55191529
either A) Nothing happens and smite cant be cast or B) smite goes "okay lets see who else is close that isnt vaccinated against smitelaria" and zaps them instead

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>>55191716
I played a game recently with a few friends. Casual games of 600 points patrol, with 1 troop and 1 hq minimum, 200 points max per unit. one guy brings along guard with 50 conscripts and a commisar, and with the rest of his 520pts he spams mortars and autocannon sentinels

I said "I'm glad I brought this guy, just in case!" whereupon I revealed my shiny Vindicare and he got really fucking mad at me for being a "spammy tryhard fuck" and he refused to play against me.

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>>55191528
what the hell m8

>>55191716
if you have to ask then yeah probably

>>55191748
why are people acting like vindicaires are hot shit? They got a points decrease and a massive nerf they're the worst assassin now

>>55191529
This was actually answered in an FAQ, and the correct answer is >>55191813

Smite can't be cast because it can't target the closest unit.

>>55191828
The importance of Commissars in the metagame is warping things a bit.

>>55191828
*worst assassin still

>>55191823
the mind of a conscript spammer is a wondrous thing

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>>55191464
I cant hear you over my fists of FUCKING IRON

>>55191823
>Dood some guy tried to play bog standard guard against me so i brought really broken l33tzors characters to autowin! Im so cool rite guize?

>>55191850
sweet

>>55191883
weak b8
apply yourself!

>>55190822
Well the spotlight works much better visually, I think you'd be better off making the extend platform outta plasticard so it follows the shape of the base.

>>55191883
>butthurt conscript spammer
Absolute kek, anon. Thanks for the hearty chuckle.

>>55191867
I can't hear you over the sound of your head hitting the floor.

>>55191828
>Tough and hard to remove
>Accurate, long range powerful gun
>only like 80 points

It can't remove 160 pts worth of characters per turn so that makes it bad

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Dubs decides my the army I start collecting after the crowning jewels of the Orks have arrived from glorious China

>>55191825
9 of my assassins have been painstakingly converted from dark eldar wyches, I don't care if it's OP I have earned the right to use these bastards

>>55190823
Great apart from the face.
Hell the original face works pretty well, maybe greenstuff it to have a huge maw that follows his chin.

>>55191918
Died a real warrior viking death while russ said "lol ima go rape some deer in the forest or some shit, you all have fun"

>>55191924
Admech
the world needs more beepboop players

>>55191924
Ironjawz

>>55191922
It's not bad, it's just not that powerful. Take 4 of the damn things if you want they're gonna kill one or two important models at best

>>55191924
Ironhands dubs, trips ad mech, quads iron warriors.

>>55191924
Necrons with C'tan shards.

>>55191922
>shoot once
>miss
welp I tried my best guys, see you at lunch

>>55191924
Space Wolves

>>55191924
An army of space Skaven
100% Converted IG Army-2000 with Skaven

>>55191924
30k Salamanders space marines

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>>55191924
Squats.

>>55191924
Assassins

>>55191924
T'au Empire.

>>55191924
Exodite

>>55191924
Imperial Knights

>>55191924
Genestealer Cunts.

>>55192026
Rerolling for this.

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>>55191924
SoB

>>55191924
White scar, never saw any

>>55191924
tau

>>55191924
Chadmarines.

>>55191924
Feral orks

>>55192050
oh shit who dis

>>55191982
>missing with 2+

>>55191913
I play Death Korps you twat, so no conscripts or sentinels. I just wouldn't play some waacfag like you who probably doesnt even paint his models or have an army theme. Maybe you just deserve to have shitty opponents because your also a cunt.

>>55191924
ad mech

>>55192075
given that GW dice give a 20-30% ratio of 1s; yes

>>55191924
Female Space Marines

>>55191924
That's one shitload of shitpost you created there

>>55191924
Blood Angels !

>>55191924
>>55192088
It's in, Anon; You have to make an army out of Games Workshop dice.

>>55192097
Not my fault they're bad at this

>>55191924
Enclaves

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>>55192078
ah yes krieg what an interesting, unique, flavourful army the--

>>55192088
I should check my TS dices then

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>>55191924
Dark Eldar your welcome m8!

>>55192078
>I really don't play scripts, anon! please believe me even though I got really mad when your tryhard friend who spammed scripts in a 600pts patrol match intended purely for lighthearted fun got mad when you countered his faggotry

>>55192111
>>55192112
d e n i e d

>>55192111
You get trips so you decide

>>55191924
What's the cat species of 40k?
Make an army of that

Is it Chaos? You kind of like it, and it kind of needs you but most of the time you just tolerate one another. While cleaning up the shit it leaves

>>55191924
A guard army, but all of them must have KKK hoods.

>>55191924
Ultramarines

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rate my Night Lord

Also

>>55191924
Death Guard

>>55192132
Shit I kinda wish you had one, I love those swords on the Incubi? I'm very unfamiliar with DE

>>55192140
Denied myself

>>55192155
finally

>>55192155
At fucking last!

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>>55192155
>Gay Guard

>>55192155
EVERYONE POST ON THIS GUYS COMMENT ABOUT HOW HE GOT DUBS

>>55192155
Man that was a anticlimax

>>55192160
incubi are the guys with the big 2 handed glaive thingies methinks

>>55192183
Just one little grubby, diseased spurt.

>>55192135
Well, you can't play conscripts in the korps? Why does spamming a shit unit even matter? You seem like your mad your opponent even showed up to play. Ive flat told riptide spammers to fuckoff, sorry im not dealing with your bullshit game exploitation.

>>55191927
post pics boii

>>55192088
Only the old ones from 10 years ago do. The new ones don't, probably due to the shape they put on the 1.

t. The date of the original engineering experiment on dakka dakka re: chessex and citadel dice, and some guys who decided to recreate it a week or two ago and posted results on b&c. Modern GW dice actually have close to perfect results with a sample size of 100 or so. I'm sure after 10,000 rolls casino dice and game science dice will have a more perfect spread, but for casual gaming, GWs dice are actually more fair than chessex and cheaper than casino/GS dice. Too bad they're fucking overpriced.

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>>55192160
Just play DE then.

>>55190925
>Ass
>anything else

>>55191699
PEACH
E
A
C
H

>>55192225
guess its time for me to literally get new dice

I'm throwing my IG army together, so I'm curious, what's the best way to field leman russes?

>>55192075
it happens too often

>>55192219
I guess since you are definitely 100% telling the truth and have no reason to lie at all, you getting mad at nothing that concerns you or relates to your irl actions will forever be a mystery that stumps even the sleuthist of sleuths. Because you definitely are telling the truth.

>>55188434
Just put it in? There's no downside to it for your Inquisition guys

Or just get the Inquisition land raider prometheus for your catholic space nazis

>>55192247
assembled

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Can I play this list without being a WAACfag anymore?

>>55192247
Battlecannon,Lascannon, Heavy Bolters.
Go classic or go home.

>>55192224
later

>>55192266
my leman russes were already assembled. I'd do them WYSIWYG, but I don't quite know what the tank weapons look like.

>>55192247
They're all a bit weaker than Manticores and Basilisks. But if you insist then go Punisher if you want short range or Battle Cannon for a long range tank. A lascannon and heavy bolters sponsons is generally the way to go in either case.

>>55192282
Post pics

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Hey 40kg, I can't really decide on what I want to collect as my first army. Could you guys choose for me? With a game of dubs chooses

>>55192247
painted

>>55192297
oh lord not again

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>>55192297
primaris ultramarines

>>55192255
You'd need to be a sleuth to fucking understand your babbling.

Any theories on the new AdMech book? Skitarii has no HQ, and there's a lot of overlap between CultMech and Skitarii's troops, and the Knights being mixed in just makes it more weird...

Figure the book will have rules for CultMech armies Or Skitarii armies Or Knight armies and some rule for taking each other as allies, or will they be merged together more?

>>55192297
I..Must. resist
I CAN'T resist

Custards

>>55192319
>>55192332
I would never try to make a high amount of posts to final kill this slow as fuck thread anon, what do you think I am, a monster?

>>55192269
I think wraithguard are f'n cool, and your not spamming wraithknights so.....

>>55192297
Tyranids.

>>55192349
Cawl will be mandatory HQ choice

>>55192297
knights

>>55191694
Not even slightly.
Lion still knocked him the fuck out and for all the talk of Lion being gay it was Russ who had the man crush on him by the end of the novel