XLN Spoilers

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>>55171606
Packaging

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>>55171606
Dinos n' shit

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>>55171606
more dinos

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>>55171606
Head you like Dinos?

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>>55171606
Another fucking Dino

>>55171606
>>55171628
>RW Dino planeswalker
>6 cmc

So much for my hope of running tiny dinos

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>>55171606
flood

>>55171628
The actual Huatli is supposed to be a two drop.

>>55171679
It's the pack version.

I really hope the set version isn't so strictly tribal.

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>>55171606
spell

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>>55171700
Spoke too soon

>>55171712
By pack you mean planeswalker deck?

>>55171614
I see a minotaur and some artifact golem. Neat!

>>55171606
Slim chance of being played in standard, bomb in limited. +1 Draw and +1 untap all your creatures is kind of powerful.

>>55171628
Underwhelming, you'd only choose this in limited if you go heavy into dinosaurs.

>>55171643
Shit. This should at least be a 5/5.

>>55171658
Great in limited

>>55171673
not!inferno titan with a stronger ETB, going to see play in limited and standard as a big finisher, going to hike up in value if decent ramp is released

>>55171688
Shit.

>>55171717
Shit.

>>55171886
None of these cards are relevant to limited, they are Planeswalker deck cards.

>>55171606
I remember when Jace was a good card.

>>55171896
Snubhorn is a bear with a slight upside, its going to be relevant in limited aggro decks.

Burning Sun's Avatar is literally not!inferno Titan, its a huge bomb in limited and a priority pick.

But yeah I get your point, rares are not very relevant in limited in general.

>>55171896
Burning Sun's Avatar was already spoiled, so I think it's in the set and that one is just promo art.

>there will be nine jaces when ixilan releases
wotc plz.

>>55172195
One of which won't be played at all. What's your point?

>>55172212
>Implying theres more than one competitive jace

I guess beleren is good in commander tho

>>55171628
So wait, is the dino the planeswalker or is it the girl?

>>55172325
The girl sadly. Would love to see more planeswalkers that are not human.

>>55172325
>>55172353
I think even for non-human planeswalkers, it has to be something sapient, so wild animals are out.

It'd be neat if we got a mono-green Merfolk walker this set or something though, or if this Red pirate planeswalker is a minotaur.

>>55171973
You are a fucking idiot

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>>55171643

hey more garbage to fill up that dino edh deck

op missed the jasic lands

>>55171606
chess.jpg

>>55171973
Please kill yourself you actual retard

>>55171688
is that jace learning waterbending?

>>55173517
Seems like it. Either that he's moving his arm in a 'holy shit what was that' fashion

>>55173517
He was a waterbender when he was first introduced

>>55173517
Jace appears to be allied with the River Guardians out of the four Ixalan factions. This sets him against Hualti (Sun Empire), Vraska (Brazen Coalition) and whoever will show up in the second set representing the Legion of Dusk.

>>55171886
Imagine replying to this many posts only to be too stupid to realize what you're saying is completely ignorant and irrelevant.

>alright, we'll put less emphasis on the gatewatch
>next set
>multiple jaces, including one with mechanics that require a major errata to the game

>>55174650
>We can only use one member of the jacetice league this block
>Ok but just to make sure he gets proper exposure let's make him be able to copy himself
Patiently waiting for Chandra to make 1 turn flame doubles and nissa to spawn micro walkers made of vines

>>55174712
He's always been able to make illusory copies of himself though.

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Nice spoilers, but where are the good cards?

>>55174804

Hell, it's like the first thing you do with illusion.

Pretend you are in two places, and then kinda actually be in two places.

>>55171643
why does rw get such shit flavour text

>>55174650
>planeswalker deck walkers
>counting

>>55171886

5/5 that jankly provides card parity on being uses?

That's a bit much.

>>55174866
Already spoiled weeks ago.

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>>55171628
So I haven't really been following these spoilers. Do we know the point of making the Planeswalkers legendary now? I mean, you're already limited to one of each anyway.

>>55175021
Planeswalker Uniqueness Rule isn't a thing any more. Enjoy your Oops All Gideons.

>>55171673
i love this fucking dino

>>55174989
If you play it as planned it's going to attack as a 6/6 anyway.

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>>55174650
>expecting instant change when the company time and time again tells people they work in advance of products by years.

>>55175098
Personally, I don't care if we still get one Gatewatch member crammed into every block. It's just when they try and force all four where it doesn't work.

Having much more than Jace and Lili there for Innistrad was unnecessary. Maybe Nissa for Leyline nonsense, but that's about it.

Similarly, Chandra's the only major player you need for Kaladesh, while Gideon is the most key for Amonkhet due to his outlook on the gods.

Having consistent characters between planes is something I can understand, but when you're going to waste a bunch of plot and cards making sure we have all of them there, it feels wasteful. 2 planeswalkers are more than enough to solve a vast majority of problems.

>it's a people bitch about the shit card in the planeswalker deck cards because they think they will be in booster thread
Every fucking time

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>>55171628

Is it just me or are these two just really....boring. I mean Jace looks useful, but it's so bland. I miss card design being a bit crazy, especially with planeswalkers and their ultimates.

>>55175182
those are planeswalker deck cards, they are designed to be "baby's first planeswalker" tier, so nothing overpowered or complicated. If you want crazy design, look at Jace's actual PW card from the set.

>>55175182
These are intro deck walkers. Proper set Jace is absolutely fucking insane.

>>55175211
Considering Castaway Jace is a 2 card infinite with himself and Doubling Season, I think they went crazy enough.

>>55175211
>>55175235

Ah, I see.

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This set looks like complete shit. Can someone link some bombs from this set?

>>55175242

I will freely admit to being terrible at magic but is it that useful to have infinite Jaces though? You'd have to wait one turn to +1 all of them, then you create infinite 2/2's the following turn, but that's still a 3 turn timer. I suppose it's pretty low risk, but it feels like I've seen nastier combos.

>>55175320
Its ridiculous mostly due to being U/G which is, arguably, the most degenerate color combo in EDH. Said color combo doesn't need an easy way to make infinite creatures, on top of infinite mana.
I doubt new Jace will dominate formats without Doubling Season.

>>55174650
A) It's the same planeswalker deck shit they've been doing the past year. Only Jace is in the set, not Jace and the entire gang.
B) They didn't need to rewrite the planeswalker rules for the one. "Create two tokens that are copies of Jace, Cunning Castaway, except they aren't Jaces" does the exact same thing, mechanically.

>>55175320
You dont have to wait one turn to +1 the clones, because the clones act as if they had just been played, and therefore can do their first action. SO you spawn two clones, have one clone drop and illusion and the other clone spawn another two clones, and repeat. If you have anything that gives your dudes haste, you get to swing with an infinite amount of illusion bears.

>>55175320
Mate, you get 4 jaces per ulti activation with doubling season out, so you only need to have one jace to keep making jaces from every batch, you basically get to draw your ass off and make a absurd army of 2/2s.

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>>55175518

And this is why I'm terrible at Magic

>>55175518
Scratch the card draw part, you only get do it the next turn unless you already have a dude out when you start making your infinite Jace harem.

>>55175320
You don't have to wait for shit.
>have 1000000 Jaces that haven't done anything yet.
>Either make 2000000 phantasmal bears or +1 them when you have lab man out and connect with one creature.

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>>55171606
I wonder if wotc forgot how to print new walkers that aren't black women or jace

>>55174898
And then have conversations with illusions of yourself

>>55175098
You stupid fucking nigger, "less gatewatch" has been a complaint since Nu-Innistrad. Maro said himself that HoD would be the last "superfriends meet up" set for a while and they'd be focusing on the characters of the planes.

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>>55171606
>forgetting cards

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>>55171606
I miss intro packs. These weird new ones with watered down planeswalker and couple imbalanced cards that work eith walker don't just cut, and are actually detrimental to deckbuilding if you are starting playing.

>>55175624
Then post the source of that you dipshit.

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>>55171606
And the lands

>>55175312
Funnily enough I do hate card flickers and I play 8rack.

Played a kid the other week, young teen, was flicking his cards. What an appalling habit to pick up so soon.

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>>55175818
this with little jace and all merfolk tribal is going to rape standard, helps that blacks new removal card conveniently misses merfolk as well.

>>55171606
the fucker looks like mr. clean

>>55171606
how old is jace supposed to be? he seems 20-ish on ixalan, but other art shows him pushing 40

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>>55171876
Actually, what if that's Angrath? Minotaur planeswalker?

>>55175816
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/159305558583/we-have-another-standard-environment-with-a-top

Literally three seconds in google you water-headed homo

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>>55176562
>Minotaur planeswalker

>>55171628
So is it intentional that almost every WEWUZ planeswalker that has been made so far after Teferi Walker 2014 is subtly utter garbage and ugly as shit? I for one don't want to have ANYTHING to do with Samut and this iteration of Huatli. On that note, is Saheeli even good without the Cat?

>>55175818
Are there any cards that don't have retarded planeswalker syenergy?

The people I play with usually throw planeswalker cards away and draw a new one if they accidentaly shuffled in one of those lamers.

>>55176806
of course it is. WotC subverst SJW by giving them exactly what they wanted and making it shit. It's basically 5d chess

>>55176833
how old are these people?

>>55171606
I wish they would stop with their retarded planeswalker characters already.

>>55176806
>this iteration of Huatli
Well yeah it's a planeswalker deck planeswalker

>>55171614
So, is the story of this peaceful dark skinned natives are getting invaded by the evil pale skinned vampire conquistadors?

>>55171606

>that name

Fuck this guy.

>>55176931
The Sun Empire is pretty explicitly not peaceful, and the Vampires were good until they had their magic 'we don't need blood' rock stolen and had their society crumble

>>55171679

Do you think that the only reason they don't print cheap, Common planeswalkers is MUH EPICS?

>>55171628
why is a card like this not green?

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>>55171717
>that art
How is it possible to make something as exciting as riding a fucking dinosaur in a prehistoric jungle look that boring?

>>55175802

Seeing Jayce experiencing despair fills me with joy.

>>55176983
No, I was just hoping that RW Dinos would curve lower overall. Is that hard to understand?

>>55175802
What's stopping him from planeswalking away?

>>55177013
Magic rock on the plane prevents planeswalkers from leaving.

This has upset a few people

>>55171606
desu he's kind of hot in that pic, would bang.

>>55171717

>Your joke wasn't that funny
>[raptor laughter]

>>55177011

Dude, they don't want cheap planeswalkers cuz they want all planeswalkers to be expensive and have crazy effects

>>55171688
that's not bad. Jace tutor and return some cards to hand.

>>55175818
That's actually decent.

>>55176534
Still better than Gideon, who is somewhere between 25 and 65.

>>55171628

Is this one of the starter deck planewalkers?Because otherwise I have no idea what they could have possibly been thinking printing this garbage. SIX MANA, DOES NOTHING BY ITSELF

>>55177424
Yes, look at the card number. If its something like 289/280 it's from the starter deck.

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Help me make the cheesiest space marine list.

>2000 pts
>models you have to work with:
HQs
Captain with jump pack and teeth of terra
Captain in cataphractii
Marneus Calgar
2 lieutenants

Troops
Three ten man tactical squads with plasma gun and missile launchers

Elites
Chapter ancient
Chapter champion
Honor guard
Ironclad Dreadnought
Contemptor dreadnought
Assault Centurions
Tartaros Termies
sternguard

HS
2 devastator squads
Centurion devastators (cannot use these if you already used the siege centurions)

Fast Attack
4 land speeders
9 man assault squad w 2 flamers

fliers
Stormraven w lascannons and typhoon
stormtalon w typhoon
l

>>55177592
I don't think you can make a deck from this, anon.

>>55177592
Dude, I already barely understand MTG.

>>55177592
Wrong thread bro.

>>55175173
I mean it's /tg/, expecting anything less is retarded.

>>55175173
>Condoning shit cards for whatever reason
Maro KYS asap

>>55176988
One sides fight is R/G and anthems and counter buffs are G/W.

Its like how a Deathtouch, Menace dudd could be mono B OR RG

>>55176963
>Good
The genocided an entire continent.

>>55178032
They turned the populace into vampires with no downsides

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Why are Yugioh dinosaurs so much better?

>>55176534
I've always put him around early 30s, perhaps the responsibility of his job and being a planeswalker makes him age.

>>55175152
This. Most of the good Origins-onward stories have a maximum of 2 Gatewatch members.

>>55178032
>>55178057
We know only they conquered it not genocided.

>>55171606
The intro pack walkers are getting better. Tezzeret, Master of Metal was pretty decent and despite having the worst name of any magic card ever, Jace "Really Smart Guy" has some gas. Safely costed gas, but still...compare this to the horribad Chandra intro card...

>>55178282
Bolas wasn't too bad either. Destroy a creature, draw a card is a great plus ability.

>>55178249
Also it seems there's living citizens in their Empire,as they feed on criminals and rebels.
So talking about genocide is still debatable/premature.

>>55178301
It's not a plus ability. Shows how much I've played against those. It's still okay though.

>>55178306

I'm thinking more the effective exiling of some humans/orcs/pirates.

>>55178389

Clearly, there are some deaths, but the power balance hasn't made them do anything that the Sun Heralds and River Empire

.... Fuck I goofed the names.


Have done.

>>55171606
Another fucking Jace planes walker.
Why does he look so smug?
He just got his ass kicked by the Bolas.
WHY ISN'T HE DEAD

>>55178389
I thought the idea there was sort of a religious persecution allegory, ala Catholics and Protestants. Some people don't like the over-reliance on vampires, magic, and criminals to have society work, so they decide to fuck off.

>>55177029
Great, for once I want to see all the Gate watch on one plane...except the cat man, and maybe Gideon.

>>55178389
I think also, refugees,rebels and exiles.
Every conquest is bloody but it seems "Pretty" standard like the sun Empire seems to have tried with the merfolk Kingdom.
So is sort of balanced and not like other planes a good vs bad but it seems more khans of tarkir, everyone against everyone to find this "sun".

>>55178450
>Why does he look so smug?

Smug is Jace's default state. He can only speak in pithy quips.

>>55178450
Bolas likely still has use for him, just wipe away some pesky memories
>Jace will be a Manchurian candidate and turn against the Gatewatch when they meet up again

So how do you guys feel about mass oath of exile.

>>55178636
Wat

>>55178249
Over writing a native culture and forcing them to follow your relgion to the point where there are refugees across the ocean is a form of genocide. Especially because they eat anyone who doesnt follow their religion or faces them in war.

Like the Japanese did to Koreons.

Or Christian and Muslim forced conversions.

>>55175847
Are they doing ally and enemy? Thought they were doing reprints of the m10 duals.

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>>55178680
Sorry didn't read attacking the first time I read it.

>>55178703
Those are just in the planeswalker decks. Ally checklands are in the set.

>>55178683
The fact is that we don't know anything about torrezon conquest, we know only that has a iron fist monarchy allied with the church but we don't know the state as how is regulated.
You're makinng assumptions.
Also pirates don't seems "too nice",they're also a faction that want to get back lands from the Empire and like burn and pillage,they aren't pilgrims refugees.
And knowing wizards "talking about genocide and religion extremism " is a no-no,they are avoiding it.

>>55178865
My point is trying to Say that unlike aether revolt we have some depth and not the same "evil vs good",or at least it seems.
They could have "pusher" in the "bloody evil" conquistadores but it seems they're avoiding the eternal recycled Trope or at least downplayed.
Also theirs helmet seems to have a sort of double horns in it....Bolas again!?!!?

>>55178945
Continued the other 2 post before-also i think because reenacting the same shit of history could be very awful i suppose.

Random question, just want to go for clarity on this.

Annointed Procession from Amonkhet lets you put two tokens into play whenever you would create a token... since it doesn't specify creature tokens, it would count for Treasure Tokens as well as Jace's planeswalker tokens, right?

>>55171673
Fucking garbage perspective

>>55180417

checks out

>>55176931
One of the first things they say in the story podcast is they're not doing the story of the evil invaders attacking the poor defenseless natives. All the factions (dino riders/vampires/pirates/merfolk) are on relatively equal ground, because the story is about every faction trying to find the macguffin (the Immortal Sun).

Hence why the Monarch mechanic was originally going to be in Ixalan, with power being passed between the different factions.

>>55175030
>the Standard, Modern, and EDH metas are going to be "The Virgin Planeswalkers" vs "The Chad Planestriders"

>>55171606
>Jace, the nerd who got swole bicep but forgot to do leg day
Seriously, those arms looked weird as fuck

>>55178600
You're whats wrong with this game, kill yourself

>>55180417

>Annointed Procession from Amonkhet lets you put two tokens into play whenever you would create a token... since it doesn't specify creature tokens, it would count for Treasure Tokens as well as Jace's planeswalker tokens, right?

Yep.

>>55178112
Stay in /vg/ please

>>55178450
He's smug because he got swole.

>>55176534
mid twenties to early thirties?

>>55174212
>whoever will show up in the second set representing the Legion of Dusk

Sorin

>>55182882
>Sorin, Solemn Wall

>>55182937
Ok, I chuckled

>>55171606
>more Jacetice League shit
It's cancer and it's killing the game.

>>55182937
3BB
Legendary Planeswalker

+1 tap and untapped Sorin, Solemn Wall
-2 you may cast any spell with converted mana cost 0 or less for free
-7 until end of turn, Sorin, Solemn Wall becomes a 0/4 Legendary Wall with no other abilities.

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>ITT: People still don't understand how planeswalker decks work

>>55183853
It's a way to show new players cards which are so bad that they'll look at the new standard sets and be impressed.

>>55176636
And yet the point still stands, they only just started shifting the way they tell stories. Expecting no gatewatch right after hours and then complaining that planeswalker decks are showing another jace when the purpose of those decks are to SHOW PLANEWALKERS in the set is stupid and impatient.

>>55185438
especially when its the first time we get a planeswalker deck Jace. If it has been yet another Nissa, I could understand

>>55178389
so? people leave their homes and become (((refugees))) all the time, its nothing special

>>55178112

Because their artists aren't mouthbreathers

I haven't been keeping up on this lately, why are there 2 Jaces in the same set?

>>55186388
One of them goes in the Planeswalker Decks, which replaced the Intro Decks. Ingenious Mind-Mage is the deck one. Cunning Castaway is the one that you'll find in boosters.

>>55186506
So you can only get Mind-Mage from buying the deck? doesn't show up in packs or anything?

>>55186538
Mind-Mage is deck only. Probably not worth a damn, anyway, much like the pre-con set decks.

>>55186538
Yeah, you'd need to get the deck for it, and he probably isn't too worthwhile. Still, if you want him, I can't imagine that version would be that expensive

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>Hey you know those graveyard based decks that already have a hard time playing with the tons of graveyard hate in standard right now?

>You know what, lets kill them outright, we want Temur energy to rule until the next rotation.

>>55178602
That's only card Jace. Lore Jace is kind of lacking in pithiness.

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>>55187424
> Not having an ultimate that search for a Sorin planeswaker card.
It's like you think he will never get out.

>>55187424
>still better 2 mana walker than Tibalt

>>55187946
The ult allows you to show that you have another Sorin in your library. He'll get out eventually, but it's gonna take a long time and you have no idea when it'll happen.

>>55187361
Is there even a graveyard deck in standard once SOI rotates? I know Amonkhet had a lot of graveyard stuff too but none of it materializd a deck iirc. Then again it may after rotation and this will kind of shit on it. You guys asked for answers.

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Hey, did you know that the coolest thing about Ixalan is that Jace is on it?

Forget the interesting and diverse environment, the coolest part of it all is that the MtG community's favourite blue planeswalker is exploring it!

Fuck yeah, Jace. Just look at him.

>>55188018
Al the environments are "interesting and diverse" in the sense that all planes have to have some equivalent to plains, islands, swamps, mountains, and forests. I actually kind of have a sneaking suspicion they probably thought the land for Ixalan was not distinct enough, though I have an idea of how they could have fixed that without Jace. But I'm not triggered by the fact that 5 lands out of, what, 15 or 20 or whatever have a tiny Jace on them enough to care about how they chose to do it.

>>55188018
Even if I don't care for Jace that much, it's still neat seeing him running around having no idea what to do or how to get off of Ixalan.

>>55178112

we need that for duel links

>>55187361
that card is so people can answer the leftover graveyard mechanics of eternalize and embalm from amonkhet, innistrad won't be around anymore to be cucked by this.

>>55175021
point is to make Captian Sissay even better in EDH

>>55187361
I love the wizards strategy of "print a specific playstyle in this set then kill it hard next set"
Whatever comes after Ix will have a card that reads "name a tribe, neither player can cast cards of that tribe" or some shit.

>>55187977
Literally all of AKH is based around the graveyard except the exert cards. Embalm, eternalize, scarab god, and god pharaohs gift all need cards in the grave to work.
Not to mention all of the aftermath cards that make up half the rares in the block like Never // Return

>>55176995

Western Marketing makes sure to smooth everything down so that it can be as inoffensive as possible to the widest variety of people. This also means that any product has the spice and energy of a block of wood.

>>55188490
>I love the wizards strategy of "print a specific playstyle in this set then kill it hard next set"
>Whatever comes after Ix will have a card that reads "name a tribe, neither player can cast cards of that tribe" or some shit.
They didn't do this for one god damn block because by sheer coincidence the first and third block in that sequence were both graveyard themed and people shat themselves over it

>>55188557
It's just weird to me because we already had good graveyard hate and were getting ANOTHER white card in Ix that says you couldn't activate or cast cards in the grave.
But they just decided to print a 1 mana counter to grave decks which just feels like bad design.

Imagine if solemnity was a 1 mana colorless card.

>>55188557
Thats not coincidental.

Wotc deliberatly synergizes sets 6 months apart for standard reasons.

Its why Khaladesh had pirates and vehicles just like Ixalan and why treasure tokens overlap with that sets artifact themes.

Also note how Innistrad and Amonkhet overlapped with zombie tribal.

>>55188671
I didn't say it was coincidence they didn't print grave hate you dumbfuck. It was coincidence that they wanted to do two graveyard sets so close to each other which is something they usually actively choose not to do for this reason. Obviously the things they choose to do within the sets are designed to synergize.

>>55188707
Except he is telling you it was NOT a coincidence they did two graveyard sets so close together. AKH and SOI were designed to work together so they both were graveyard sets.
Synergy is irrelevant and was only brought up to prove the point these sets are made to work close to each other.
Saying it was a coincidence they wanted two graveyard sets together is just wrong.

>>55188778
Except Amonkhet was top down Egypt. It just made sense that it would be graveyard centric. The themes they chose to focus on were meant to work with Innistrad, but they didn't choose to make two graveyard sets that close. It's the same reason they didn't do DFC in Amonkhet and had to come up with embalm, because it was going to be in rotation with SOI. They want set individual themes to synergize, they typically DON'T make sets with the same big mechanical theme so close to each other. This implies that we're going to get a dedicated tribal set 2 sets from Ixalan or whatever the fuck which is ridiculous. SOI and Amonkhet being so close to each other was an anomaly.

>Planeswalker Decks exist since Kaladesh
>People still can't understand which card come from the deck and won't appear in the set

Boys, boys, look.

This is what you get for not playing Temur Energy. The Kaledesh block was the only marginally powerful set printed since Khans of Tarkir. Return to Zendikar, Return to Innistrad, and ESPECIALLY the Amonkek block were all flaming dog shit. We knew this way ahead of time with spoilers, there was no value in the those sets, nobody can open a set and make their money back unless they got an invocation. And while it may be fun to meme it up with janky shit brews involving God-Pharoh's Gift and a bad Barbarian Ring, you should have recognized that memes don't last.

Wizards isn't going to print anything that fucks with Energy outside of the Kaledesh block. This means Energy decks don't have the same silver-bullet weaknesses that Mardu Vehicles have (artifact destruction), or Zombies have (board wipes), or reanimate strategies (graveyard hate), or control decks (efficient, aggressive creatures). Ixalan will have some tribal synergies and I'm sure there will be some people who will try and make them viable but, again, don't fall for it. Hate for tribes will come, the decks will fall apart, and Energy decks will continue to chug along, winning game nights.

>>55188490
Engineered Plage in Dominaria confirmed.

>>55188490
>I love the wizards strategy of "print a specific playstyle in this set then kill it hard next set"
Would you rather they don't print any hate and have those decks be unanswerable? Because that's the recipe for a miserable standard.

>>55189060
I could fuckin see it

>>55188018
Its actually kinda cool seeing a narrative implied through the land art.

I mean, it sucks that it had to be jace, but it's a good idea.

>>55188018
Actually, I like it. Having a person in the scenenary gives some sense of scale.

>>55188848
tg doesnt play magic
co doesnt read comics
v doesnt play vidya

where do you think you are

>>55183684
-2 lets you cast Living Death, Restore Balance, Ancestral Visions, etc. Not entirely useless.

>>55189721
Considering Jace's history and themes of his character in general, this is a good story to tell with Jace.

>>55187361
>Tons of Graveyard hate in standard
Know how I know you don't play the format?

>>55188888
Temur Energy was a mistake.

>>55171628
YASH KWEEN SLAY
that boosterpack value, fuck this is shit

>>55190620
>I am so retarded that I can't tell a planeswalker deck card when I see one

>>55188888
The fact that Energy will probably never be coming back makes me legitimately sad. I liked the idea of generating advantage through a new resource that wasn't cards, creatures, or mana. I liked Clue tokens because they were both cards and an artifact and I will probably like Treasure tokens for the same reason but Energy was that nice little bit of free value that could be converted into anything - we never have to give a shit about charge or whatever counters ever again because we had Energy; it could've been a fantastic evergreen mechanic.

>>55190797
It probably will come back.
Sometime in five years or so.

>>55188018
I think they're funny because he looks lost as fuck

>>55188490
Honestly hate cards used to exist IN THE SAME SET back in the day - and they probably should be now, too.

You have to learn how to play around hate cards. Assuming you actually play tournament / ranked games (FNM, GPs, Grand Prix, whatever) then you actually play more games with your sideboard cards than without them.

Answers actually make games interesting and reward skill on both sides of the table.

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>>55193057

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>>55188018
Something like this would have been better.

>>55189122
>I hate this extreme scenario
>well what about this other similarly stupid extreme scenario huh?
Believe it or not I don't want either extreme, life doesn't operate solely on far left and far right choices.

>>55193494
Printing the hate in the same set would feel better.

When you print it immediately in the next pack it feels like you're forcing players to buy the new stuff or lose which just leaves a bad taste in your audiences mouth.

Plus my main problem is there were already two generic hate cards that were very good in HOU to deal with graveyards so idk why we need an EVEN more efficient generic hate card.
This new card doesn't even feel like "hate" as much as it feels like hosing graveyards completely for the next two years of standard.
Imagine if solemnity was a 1 mana generic enchantment instead.

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>>55176562
I made that comment in the worldbuilding thread.
What if it's just Tahngarth by a different name?
I don't remember if he confirmed died or not. Maybe he sparked and walked away to a place no one would ever hear of him again?

We gotta have some way to rope this into the Return to Dominaria set, right?

(Also maybe not that minotaur specifically, but minotaurs on the plane might mean something.)

>>55188018
am I the only one completely sick and tired of Jace? Do people even like him as a character (besides a few good planeswalker cards)?

Can they just move on with different people?

>>55196709
Jace is the most popular planeswalker based on their market research.

>>55196709

Jace is kind of arse, but the other members of the Gaywatch are even worse so it's almost a relief that they're using him for this one.

>>55178282
I actually have a shitty tezz precon i threw a few affinity and other artifact support cards in it and I regularly -3 that tezz for +10

>>55187361
Does this replace relic in decks that use it?

>>55188018
Jace is a bitch and I still like these lands. One of the themes is exploration so it makes sense to show the mindfucked one wandering around

>>55188836
You're a dense motherfucker, they share graveyard themes and vehicle themes, respectively, because WotC was moving to the 4 block standard, so there would have been a stronger graveyard theme to work with thus needing better hate. We won't get a tribal set next because they have already scrapped the 4 block standard for a different strategy. But no, continue being retarded please

>>55196793
>Does this replace relic in decks that use it?
No, because relic draws you a card if you need to exile the whole yard and can do some mitigation if their yard is too small to warrant using it to take it all out.
Basically Relic is a fine topdeck, this is shit.

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>>55171606
Planeswalker

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>>55171606
Jace got caught.

>>55171606

TRAILER for XLN - WE WUZ ONE PIECE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOcCTSL7dmw

>>55196972
>0: Create a 3/3 green Dinosaur creature token WITH TRAMPLE
Oh look, it's fucking Gideon all over again. Funny how all the most annoying planewalkers since Theros have been ones that shit out creature tokens.

>>55196989
No he didn't, that's just the effect of the shit on Ixilan that stops walkers from leaving

>>55197050
>Oh look, it's fucking Gideon all over again
Except this one isn't an indestructible wincon and un-interactable anthem in one.

>>55171717
Why does so much of this shitty fucking game center around the planeswalkers?

>>55197331
Also his token making was a plus that allowed him to continue feeding Heart of Kiran

>>55197354
Look at the fucking collection number

>>55197050
Any planeswalker worth their salt should be able to easily leave ixilan.
Now if they want to leave ixilan and have there be an ixilan to go back to, that's another story entirely

>>55197368
>Also his token making was a plus that allowed him to continue feeding Heart of Kiran
Wrong, making the 2/2 ally token is a 0 ability you idiot.

>>55197378
>Any planeswalker worth their salt should be able to easily leave ixilan.
Pretty sure it's "No walkers can leave Ixilan" mate.

>>55197392
Ixilan can't stop you from leaving it if it doesn't exist

>>55195015
If he would've sparked, it would've been when he was horribly tortured and mutilated by Volrath.
I suppose it's not impossible that the Mending made sparking more likely AND due to said mutliation he had an extended lifespan AND he sparked afterwards, but that's a lot of ands.

>>55195015
>>55197867
It could also just be another minotaur from the same place, hence a similar name.

>>55187424
can't you always see your graveyard to begin with though?

>>55196972
Funnily enough she has better synergy with Suncrest Mare than with any dino.

>>55182374
Yu-Gi-Oh the game is actually tg . . you know bcs it is a tabbletop game .. .

>>55200156
>t
>tabletop
t stands for traditional. Yu gi oh has no tradition, so it is trash

>>55188018
This is actually kind of charming and funny. I like it a lot.

>>55193850
Not everyone can be John Avon.

>>55196731
>Jace is the most popular planeswalker based on their market research.
Jace is the more popular than LIliana? I thought the game was played by virgin neckbeards, not by literal faggots.

>>55197024
Jesus christ, what is this digital flash crap?

>>55204207
Liliana and Chandra are just behind him iirc