Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

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First for the Eighth

>>55171532
I'll ask again: 30k thousand sons castellax. It looks dope, what dreadnought does it best match in size?

And did FW print rules for normal chaos dreads anywhere?

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Second for Phoenix Lords.

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>>55171532
And it will never happen.

>>55171589
why are her tits so big?

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>>55171386
This is why I am confused and I asked. I find online discussion of people citing the FAQs and still being confused.
What I get from this is that POXWALKER units will be buffed no matter what, but I am trying to see if I can make the Plague Marines TAINTED, at last as an "external" choice that goies to elite and would be used for a full-melee unit.
Few attacks, but all hitting on 2+ and rerolling 1 to wound is decent.
Note that the guy is both DEATH GUARD and TAINTED so the fucktard here >>55170321
just could not get what I was talking about.

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Finally managed to start my Astra Militarum army and whipped up a list.

Got everything except the Scions, Taurox Primes and Harker. Also have a LRBT, Chimera and a Sentinel lying around but they're not very cost efficient to my understanding.

>>55171610
Because she's a pointy-eared slut.

>>55171532
4 combi plas and 4 power axes, or some chianfists thrown in there
I bought this unit just to kill some guys Celestine, but after that he'll have a few tanks left

>>55171710
Explain this then? >>55171593

>>55171732
Obviously a round-eared slut.

Reminder to use your soul grinders for the campaign, chaos can win this!

>>55171581
You got answers, it's invetween furibundus and contemptor
>>55171720
On chaos terminators btw, thinking going NL

>>55171732
thicc

>>55171593
I do kind of wish it would, just because it'd be nice to have a unit as allies to add some variety to my Marines.

>>55171738
>SoB
>slut
Fucking heretics.

Any news on the new xenos race?

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>>55171732
She was blessed by the Emperor! DO NOT BULLY THICC SISTER!.

>>55171645
Yes, Plague Marines can be <TAINTED>. As long as they are from the CSM Codex which have no <Legion>.

>>55171645
if they have a <LEGION> tag, they can be made THE TAINTED.

Its really quite that simple.

How do I make Deathwatch Terminators worth their points when compared to Kill Team Veterans?

>>55171756
Hrud

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>>55171756
No, minor xenos mentioned in September's WD but they were also mentioned in 6th ed and nothing happened but now with the hints of a new race coming there might be something like a xenos mercenaries codex.

>>55171774
>>55171777
So you can use a 2+ melee Plagues as Elite but the army would not be full Death Guard.
THANKS!
Now we will see with the codex how big the sacrifice would be but I think is a viable option if the guy is able to buff up to 3 units (1 TAINTED, 1 POXWALKER and a third one with the plague spells).

>>55171752
Never going to happen. At least not in our life time

>>55171844
Yes, and now that they have a shit ton of unique melee weapons they can be monsters in assault

>>55171844
if you take a small the tainted elite detachment from the CSM book, it shouldn't mess up your overall deathguard army.
just would need to differenciate your troop deathguard plagues from your elite tainted plagues

also
>1 TAINTED, 1 POXWALKER
haha these are auras, he'll buff as many units of those as you have nearby.

Helbrute loadouts: what's best for cost efficiency?

I'm thinking twinlas would be good for fire support, but is it worth it to take a missile launcher? Or should I keep a melee weapon for CC?

>>55171796
I don't speak taco, what does this say?

>>55171891
>haha these are auras, he'll buff as many units of those as you have nearby.
You are formally correct and potentially this can b don in practice, but I don't se more than 2, maybe 3 units buffed at time.

>>55171777
>>55171844
The problem is that you either replace <LEGION> with <THE TAINTED> and lose your Death Guard rules, or you don't replace it and you can't buff them with Necrosius.

As long as there isn't any clarification on this RAW says only Necrosius and Mamon (page 50, was updated in the FAQ) get both the Death Guard and The Tainted keyword.

>>55171941
It's not taco it's frog.

>>55171941
>can't even differentiate between taco and baguette

>>55171972
your correct, but right now, there ARE no deathguard benefits
and once the codex drops, we'll see if +1 to hit in melee is worth losing whatever strategems and detachment bonuss the codex gives for those elite plaguemarines

>>55171941
>taco
Being this retarded

So in December there's a 2k tourney coming up, limits are: no triplicates, no uniques, max 3 detachments.

+++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [114 PL, 1995pts] +++

++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Orks) ++

+ HQ +

Warboss on Bike: Attack Squig, Power Klaw

Weirdboy: Da Jump

Weirdboy: Da Jump

+ Troops +

Boyz
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. 29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. 29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Kustom Shoota
. 2x Ork Boy W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Big Shoota
. 17x Ork Boy W/ Shoota

Boyz
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Kustom Shoota
. 2x Ork Boy W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Big Shoota
. 17x Ork Boy W/ Shoota

Gretchin: 30x Gretchin

Gretchin: 30x Gretchin

+ Elites +

Kommandos
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 2x Kommando
. 2x Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Burna

Kommandos
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 2x Kommando
. 2x Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Burna


Tankbustas: 2x Bomb Squig
. Boss Nob: Rokkit Launcha
. 3x Tankbusta: 3x Rokkit Launcha
. Tankbusta w/ Pistols: Pair of Rokkit Pistols

+ Fast Attack +

Skorcha Buggy
. Skorcha: Skorcha

Skorcha Buggy
. Skorcha: Skorcha

Skorcha Buggy
. Skorcha: Skorcha

+ Heavy Support +

Big Gunz
5x Kannon

Big Gunz
5x Kannon

Lootas: 5x Loota

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk: Big Shoota

>>55171990
>>55171996
Sorry, don't speak baguette either. What does it say?

>>55171941
Slav or American?

>>55171532
>pdf & epub

Any links for the Gathering Storm 1 - 3?

>>55172045
Well my french vocabulary consists of 2 seasons of Wakfu but:

Many actors on galactic scene, loads of alien species in warhamer 40k, despite xenocidal crusades little effects is had on larger species such as orks and eldar.
thouyghout the galaxy humanity has encountered... loads of species.
Something something sages of xenoscience, bestiary of Rogue Traders, alien mercenaries, genestealers, razorwings (trained by drukhari)

just a reminder, we've had
> blood warriors
> 6 or 7 aos characters bigger than marines
>Kharn
> wrath mongers
> blood reavers
> necromunda goliaths

And yet we still have decade old Khorne Berzerkers.

>>55171873
While I'm not holding my breath, I also remember we once said that about a lot of things, like moving the setting forward or bringing back Primarchs.

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I'm having some trouble making a good Carcharadon list for 1k/2k games. Obviously I wanna have Tyberos but I'm struggling to fill the rest of the gaps. I would imagine assault termies would be good but what about a land raider or tacticals? I kind of want to strike a balance between fluffy and tournament play. For instance, I'm looking to magnetize the termies arms so I can swap between claws (for fluff) and hammers (for 10 str reroll hits).

I find it so annoying that my heart wants to play cool, mainly unseen, armies, but my mind is screaming about potential viability. I don't want to be a WAAC faggot but I just want to shut up the faces of all of those fuckers bringing unpainted cheese lists to casual tournaments.

Could anyone here help me out with some advice? Either with building a Carcharadon list or with how YOU deal with the viable vs. cool aspect of the game.

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>>55172158
It'd take a days work on CAD to give them power armoured boots, plasma and bolt pistols, chainaxes, backpacks, and a couple gladiator special melee weapons.

>>55172321
WE WUZ BERZERKERS AND SHEIT

>>55172158
All before plastic sisters as well.

>>55172158
At least Blood Warriors make pretty good Berserkers. Especially if you convert the feet too.

>>55172314
Use scouts for your troops. They're cheap and good. Both BP/CK and Sniper scouts are useful. Vanguard Vets are pretty good as well and extremely customizable.

>>55172114
Are you retarded?
Read OP

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Hey guys, i posted last night thinking i had spotted a new ork model in the latest white dwarf. Other anons were right and it is indeed a deff dread. I contacted GW on normie book and they had this to say, as well as showing me a clearer picture.

So no new orks, but a cool conversion non the less.

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Thoughts on Gabriel Angelos?

>>55172391

Oops i forgot to add what they said.

"great spot! This was actually a conversion done by 'Eavy Metal alumnus Keith Robertson, with bits from all over the Ork range and guns from the Leman Russ Punisher. Here it is in the Warhammer World Exhibition this morning:"

>>55172403
Odd that Godsplitter isn't daemonbane.

>>55172405
That's pretty cool that they actually responded.

>>55172314
>how YOU deal with the viable vs. cool aspect of the game.

General rule of thumb, I try to think to myself I was my opponent think "cool, thats a fun looking army" when I'm deploying or "what a faggot, not playing this guy again".

Take the kind of list you'd enjoy playing against.

Is it a dick move to have 5 psykers in a 2k pt army? When does it become obviously smite spam?

>>55172448
Depends on the army. It can be considered reasonably fluffy for some Eldar and Daemon lists, maybe even some Tyranids too.

>>55172391
>>55172405
Thanks for the follow up, anon, Here's hoping Big Meks will have the option to pilot Deff Dreadz like Grey Knight Masters can baby carriers.

>>55172479
Alpha legion and death guard with a horde of poxwalkers

Do marines use 25mm or 35mm bases? I'm confused

>>55172556
Either.

>>55172556
Sm 25
Primaris 35

>>55172556
whatever they come with.
32s look better

>>55172448
At 2k? It might depend on what those units are, but that doesn't sound horribly unreasonable.

>>55172556
32mm but old marines used 25mm so most people use those too.

>>55171532
>Still no plastic Sisters of Battle edition

Dont worry, they will be released by Christmas, i know a guy that know a guy that have seen plastic sprues at GW

>>55172391
So, is this ork attached to the deff dredd by his arse? Or is there a second ork in there somewhere, with the top ork being an independant gunner?

>>55172576
Typhus, 3 sorc, and a malefic lord

the army fluff is alpha legion and DG pooling some big guys and a mindless horde in service of nurgle/whatever AL is up to

>>55172403
6" backflip/10

Do two units of Obliterators work as good enough anti-tank for EC?

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>>55172563
>>55172568
>>55172574
>>55172577
So putting my army together should I rebase them to 32? All my marines are older boxes or second hand so even my unassembled ones have 25mm bases.

Does it make a gameplay difference? Should I get something like pic related

>>55172656
If the box comes with 25, use 25. If it comes with 32, use 32. No one will question otherwise save WAACniggers

>>55172656
I don't think it does. Having smaller models is an advantage but bases work for and against you

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>be my Paladin
>vs 20 grots
>3 wounds
>triple 1s to save

>>55172630

https://youtu.be/GZ9HeyO33c4

>>55172677
>GREATEST CHAMPIONS OF THE GREY KNIGHTS

>>55171755
In all seriousness although chastity is a principle by which Catholic female orders abide it is not so for their in universe facsimiles, the sisters of battle. Official cannon lore has them engaging in sex when they please.

>>55172610
Probably a grot or two kept in check by stomping on and firing the gun above their heads.

>first of September
>no new info on DG
>won't even be open for preorder until the 8th at the EARLIEST
>won't be available in stores until the 15th AT THE EARLIEST
Fucking kek. But wait, there's more!
>DG and their Primarch featured heavily in a narrative campaign
>that was six weeks long
>said Primarch and said legion's codex were released AFTER the campaign
Hahahahahahaha. BUT WAIT, THERE'S FUCKING MORE
>the primaris and marines also featured heavily in the campaign
>the major primaris units were released weeks before the start of the campaign
>as was their codex
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55172677

How did three grots manage to wound a Knight Paladin?

>>55172696
He means the Grey Knights Paladin. Hence 3 wounds

>>55172696
They believed hard enough

>>55172696
5 to hit, 6 to wound.
Same as when they fight regular space marines.

>>55172656
again
>whatever they came with

>>55172696
DEY'Z DA GROTS OF GORK AND MORK YA GIT

>>55172729

Now I'm imagining three very large, very buff grots in jojo pose facing off against a Knight Paladin.

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>>55172190
>we

>>55172690
Sounds orky enough to be true. So it's essentially a Killa-Kan Deluxe rather than a proper Deff Dredd.

>>55172765
Rather it's a Meka Dredd, KFF and counts as Rippa klaw & Rattler Cannon

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>>55172735
ERD YOU WOZ TALKING ZOG LIKE I WOULDNT FIND OUT

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Played an annihilation game against a bro new to the game, both using the Dark Imperium box set with a couple unit modifications. Gave him more points because he was new and I couldn't be assed to scrounge up a last fluffy 50pts.

Sadly don't have pics, will try to arrange this better in the future.

Highlight reel
>~950 Death Guard VS ~1100 Ultramarines

>Bloat drone DISTRACTION CARNIFEXs up the board and soaking up the entire army's fire, firing once before hilariously exploding and missing everyone by an inch.
>Having so hard to plink 2 wounds off the Drone, the entire Primaris left flank folds shamefully to poxwalkers.
>After the both of us criticised his merits pre-game, the Gravis Captain punches two Chaos spawn into red mist in one turn, after weathering a voluminous 14 attacks.
> "He must have heard you wanting to replace him with a librarian."
>Not to be outdone by a loyalist greenhorn, Typhus solos an entire inceptor squad with a fuckoff huge mindbullet when they get the jump on him but sadly flub all their hits.
>Trying to reenact this feat, the Plaguecaster caves in his own head with perils and goes down like a chump to an angry bolt pistol.
>Meanwhile, the Ancient-Apothecary combo fails to earn their keep, rolling poorly the entire game.
>Apparently the fallen Primaris hate all this loud noise and just want to lie on the ground until all the fighting is over.
>Deciding he always wanted to be a sniper anyway, angry angry Apothecary walks to the frontline and nails a plague marine every turn with his pistol.
>The despair when all the Hellblasters died and he realised Typhus had no hardcounters left was a pleasing offering to Grandfather Nurgle.
>The last few turns was Typhus stalking the ruins, hunting Primaris characters and frying their brains with Smite.

Friend won by merit of kill points, but he's traumatized by T5 and FnP, so i'll count that as a win for me anyway.
Hope you can have enjoyable games in your future too, /tg/.

>>55172656
I might be alone in this, but I actually regret basing my models on 32, it looks totally awesome with those rings around a already decorated base.

>>55172780
That is pretty funny. Typhus is my dude for sure. I bought him 60 poxwalkers for some real laughs

Has the small rules book from the First Strike set got everything like the 7th small book did?

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Hey, where the plague marine option says multiple nodes of 'up to two models may take (x)', can I stack those?

Like can two guys have flails of corruption, two have maces of contagion, etc.?

>>55173061
They can. If the options intended that those weapons share the same two-guys limit, it'd all be in one line

>>55172780
I'm really looking forward to having a full Death Guard army finally

I know a lot of the current meta around them relies on Poxwalkers, but I'd really rather use the Plague Marines as my main troops choice. How to they stack up *really*?

>>55173061
I know what you're talking about but I don't have it on hand. Typically if the passage says "up to two dudes can:" and then bullet lists some stuff, then you get to mix and match with those two dudes only. Other times it'll be like "two dudes can do this. Two dudes can do that. One dude can do the other thing." And that's what I'm assuming you mean stacks.

In the case of plague marines, I'm pretty sure you get a single cleaver, two special melee weapons, then everyone else gets knife/sword combos. Or something pretty close to that.

Can we just message GW Facebook with rules and stats questions or do we have to do it in a faq post? I guess I'm just wondering if they'll actually reply.

>>55173149
The FB team isn't always up to snuff with their rules. If it's really complex, they'll just state the obvious without helping or say they'll pass it into the rules team for a future FAQ. At least they seem to do FAQ passes every month or so these days.

>>55171645
Why does Necrosius have THE TAINTED keyword when he's part of the APOSTLES OF CONTAGION?

Those are two separate warbands. It's like putting Pedro in the Imperial Fists.

>>55173061
>>55173145
Just got to check. Looks like you're good on your stacking. Wasn't quite sure what the mixing of weapons was.

>>55173061
Up to two Plague Marines can each replace their boltgun with either a plague spewer, a plague belcher, a blight launcher, a meltagun or a plasma gun.
• Any Plague Marine can replace their boltgun with either a bubotic axe or a second plague knife.
• Up to two Plague Marines can each replace their boltgun with a mace of contagion and a bubotic axe.
• Up to two Plague Marines can each replace their boltgun with either a great plague cleaver or a flail of corruption.
• One Plague Marine with a boltgun or with two plague knives may also take an Icon of Despair (pg 153)

0-2 special guns
0-2 mace of contagion and a bubotic axe
0-2 great plague cleaver or flail of corruption.
0-∞ bubotic axe or a second plague knife

In effect, you could have a 7 man group with
1 plague sword champ
2 heavy flamers
2 dual wielder (1 with banner)
2 2handers

favoured number!

>>55173231
Nah, like putting him in the Excoriators.

>>55173141
You really do need one big blob of Poxwalkers, if nothing else to either hold an objective for good or draw fire from all the Plague Marines.

That said, Plague Marines with Blight launchers camping in cover are a nightmare for regular infantry to take out. If the Death Guard really do end up getting an Apothecary character of their own, they'll be nightmares in small infantry games.

>>55172656
I actually rebased all my calth marines to 25mm to fit in with my older chaos marine models. It also fits into my terrain better.

No one has given a shit yet.

>>55172716
Grots hit on 4s, with 20+ they hit on 3s

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just about finished up my stormlord/shadowsword. How'd I do?

>>55173340
Shooting sure.

>>55173347
Forgot to drill the barrels.
Could use a bit more weathering, or at least some engine grease, maybe some heat discoloration on the main gun muzzle.
Also overall it begs for some *pop* or crispness.

>>55172687
I like the way gw has handled sexual encounters. Obviously it's something that humans obsess about, and no matter how good your story is it will get brought up at some point. But when men write sex they tend to just hint or mention that it happened, it's only women and perma virgins who want detail.

How big tables do you use and for what size games? Our 1 HQ 2 Troop to 500pt learning wheels games used a 31"x31" coffee table, upping to a 54"x34" at 1000 points. Once everyone gets their Codex, going to invest in two 48"x24" collapsibles that can be expanded with one more when/if there's a need.

>>55173453
4'x6' is the standard. I like 4'x8' tables because you have somewhere to place reserves and casualties.

>hyped about models
>start with the most annoying model to fit and set
>lose all motivation to do the rest
fuck.

>>55171941
>taco
>Not even taco
American public school right?

>>55172036
Can't use the same power twice in one turn, so the second weirdboy is probably useless.

You might as well split the 20-boy mobs into 10-boy ones and drop the grots. You will never get the green tide bonus anyway and you can usually pull the Ld from a nearby big mob.

Grots are fucking useless, even more so in large mobs without runtherds.

If you can, convert your power klaw nobs to have shootas. They are basically just better than sluggas. Kustom shootas are a fairly bad use of points, kombi skorchas are good, but expensive. I'd avoid giving kommando nobs anything more expensive than a big choppa, since it isn't hard to wipe them out at all.

Kannons are a bit crap, compared to kustom mega kannons but I guess you have to work with the models you own.

Lootas are pretty terrible. Re-rolling their number of shots on the first turn makes them semi-viable in a big mob if you go first. Wouldn't bother otherwise. Just split your big gunz into three units instead of two.

>>55171941
>being this American

>>55172158
Primaris berzerkers next year.

>>55173294
> favored number
I am also planning on only running the sacred number or it's multiples.
I wish they kept that old mechanic. I thought it was pretty flavorful.

Is it possible to make a small model count elite competitive Ork force?

>>55173533
Hmm guess I can switch hism to a Warpath for th e+1 A buff.

As for the boys and grots. yeah, force of habit.
Still i have nearly 150 or the little shits...

PK nobs are easy enough to covert, though it is a fair bit of extra shots when stuck in, about equal to 15 extra attacks (hitting half a well)

Kustom shoota was mostly to let the nob pretend to be usefull at range.

And yeah the heavy support slots had me pretty out of ideas so i just went with the old staples.
I'm gonna be converting up half the guns of them from scratch anyway.

>>55173495
This desu

>>55173591
>elite competitive Ork force?
Not in my experience.
Orks can never match anyone in quality, never go toe to toe with equals.
You need to grossly outnumber, outclass or hard counter an opponent.

>>55173591
Gorkanauts with Megaarmoured or Bikers list. Still probably wouldnt work

>>55173586
One can hope they'll go back to it, Nurgle models seem rife with the number 7 at least.

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Tell me about your last game.
I played DA vs IG at 1500 points yesterday. Lost but was fun. Highlight being brother Adamantael of the Deathwing facing down 20 odd guardsmen in melee by himself and killing three over two turns before they fell back and gunned him down like the cowards they are

>>55173658
Nah, bikers are waaay pricey, and Manz need to spend half their budget on transports.

>>55173675
Manz in Nauts
Bikers are insanely expensive yes
like I said, probably definitely still shit

So I tried out the blob of marines today where I placed 2000 points worth of marines within 6 of my chapter master, lieutenant, apothecary, and ancient.

The strategy has a major weakness: When mauler fiends and helldrakes pile in and you murder them all in the subsequent turn, and they all explode. All you little units get halved.

>>55173673
2k of Orke Dredd mob vs Space wolves.

Barely managed to avoid being tabled letting me enjoy the nearly 3:1 point advantage.

>>55173687
>Manz in Nauts
So spending 5/6ths of your budget on transports.

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So, what are you guys hoping for with model releases next year? I'm personally hoping for a new GSC vehicle or LoW for Nids.

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>>55173631
>>55173658

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Also general thoughts on cult troops? I like them all, and their niche roles do pretty well overall

>plague marines are a beat stick to end all beatsticks, especially great at soaking bolter/heavy bolter fire. No great offense without upgrades, but when you do they're cool (expensive though)
>noise Marines shred light shit, GEQs beware. Aside from upgrades not super Killy, but can spam a fuckton of S4 attacks.
>rubricae are a balance of things, effectively tanky against basic weapons and capable of putting out a lot of anti-MEQ fire
>bezerkers are the best, get in and punish in a very cheap mountain of S6 AP-1 attacks. Need melee though, which can be tough maybe

>>55173061

Yes.

In fact if you get the three death guard marines that come in the little box and add them to the Dark Imperium DG you get a squad of ten with two plasmas and two powerfists

>>55173697
>small, low model count, elite Ork army
Yes you fucking dumbshit do I have to spell it out for you, if its a low count army then who the fuck cares how much the transport is

>>55173703
Sorry bro, could try smaller Ork boy mobz with larger/more units of Tankbustas, Nobz/MANz, Stormboyz, etc but that probably isnt what you're looking for

>>55173703
You CAN go low number with a Dredd Mob army, it's won't be your eliteness that'll win but overwhelming the enemy with too much armour to take out.

Expect to be ignored and outmaneuvered on the objectives.

>>55173739
>Sorry bro, could try smaller Ork boy mobz with larger/more units of Tankbustas, Nobz/MANz, Stormboyz, etc but that probably isnt what you're looking for

I'm open to suggestions. Basically I don't want to push 200+ models across the board.

>>55173710

This image sums up the Lizardmen so nicely

>>55173747
now that positioning matters less, consider putting 6 or so orks onto a regiment base (see LotR for examples) so you have push 30 bases instead of 180 orks

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How do Tau play? I want another army other than my Salamanders. And instead of painting flames and bright bronze and volcanic theme bases and shit on everyone I was wanting someone I could paint as tactical looking camo wearing dudes.

I was thinking either Raptor space marines, but I was reconsidering that because I already have Marines. Tempestus Scions could be a neat choice for that kind of Xcom look, but then my friend showed by some military themed Tau models, and they look surprisingly good when painted in olive drab and green and such.

Would a small tactical team of Tau (Killteam sized force, or like sub 1500pts for use on smaller urban themed maps) feel different from Marines?

>>55173747
You dont have to get anywhere near 200

I'd do something like
>Weirdboy
>Warboss
>x2 12 Boyz Mob
>x2 10 Tankbustas w/ 2 BombSquigs
>10 Kommandos
>15 Stormboyz
>Dakkajet w/ 6 Supa Shootas

That list is approximately 1000 points with 72 models. You could also easily drop a couple of the infantry units and replace them with something larger

>>55173852
pew
pew pew
pew pe-pew pew
pe- wait why are there so many commanders here, who's in charge anyway?
pew

>>55173852
Im doing the same thing actually. I'm building a small amount of Tau for Shadow War and Killteam (for when no one agrees to SW:A)

Gona paint mine carbon fiber tacticool however.

On the tabletop I hear crisis suits are dead and everyone spams commanders to nuke things out of deepstrike. Then the gunline tries to finish everything off from across the board before they can reach them.

>>55173852
Depends on what you bring.

>>55173893

That definitely looks doable in terms of painting.

Maybe I could pair with >>55173744
DreadMob idea

>>55173905
>who's in charge
The one designated "warlord", duh.

Is Guard fun?

What should I purchase alongside the starterbox lads?

Basilisk?

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>>55173953
I'd recommend that as well, if you are doing that though I would drop everything on my list bar the....
>Weirdboy
>Tankbustas
>Dakkajet
beware though, once you go Dread, you dont come back

>>55173962
>6 Shas'O XV85 suits playing rock paper scissors for warlord

Good thing they're all high enough rank to rate hands for their suits.

>>55172610
That's one of the masterworks of Mad Mek Bogwatta, known as the "Git Inna Box." The driver is actually attached at the waist to a large spring mechanism. At a random point in a fight, the hatch opens and the Git-Inna-Box pops out, bouncing around as he howls and shoots his slugga wildly. Many laffs are had by the boyz who see it!

>>55173985
Lol, I have a hard time beliving that commanders are the only Tau with access to their hands.

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>>55173977
Indeed, kustom dredds are a dangerous addiction.

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>>55173905
>>55173942
>tfw I have one commander and don't use gunline tactics

Are chaos cultists worthwhile in units of 20? I am wondering if I should buy another 10 or 20 or if this is a good place for them. I have loads of other cheap troops if I need them. I just want my cultists to be at their best size

>>55174010
It's official fluff. Look at the models for regular XV8, their hands are retracted because they're not high enough rank to extend them. Crisis Suit hands are decorative.

>>55174026
No, their moral is 6, they are T3 with a 6+ save, as soon as anything does anything to them, at least one will die and you stand to loose more on the moral check

>>55174065
so what is the best number in a unit?

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Finished my Bloat Drone today, also used skulls from the skulls kit.

First proper attempt from me at edge highlights too.

1/2

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>>55174100
2/2

>>55173533
>can't use the same power twice in the same turn
Where does it say that? The rulebook says "A Psyker cannot attempt to manifest the same psychic power twice in one turn" not the player.

>>55174142
Pretty sure this is right if it's anything like AOS magic. Nagash had so many casts but only 4 spells available so he couldn't use all his casts most of the time. It was pretty stupid.

inb4 someone tries to defend summoning in matched play. lmao

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>>55173943
I was thinking mostly Breachers or Strike Teams, with Pathfinders and drones, maybe a Fireblade as the commander, some stealthsuits, or a Ghostkeel if I want a big guy (We're playing tight stacked up multi-level 4'x4' maps when we do these kind of games so I don't know if a Ghostkeel will fit on the map that well)
Could maybe take some Piranhas or a Devilfish as a Breacher SWAT Van.

Tidewalls look really neat too. Would be fun pushing a single Shieldline down a street in an urban map.

>>55174142
Rule of one. It's a matched play only rule so it doesn't apply if you're playing power.

>>55174092
Realistically, 30, like boyz. If you keep an apostle in range you can go lower but then you're potentially wasting an apostle.

Can anyone give me some opinions?
I'm doing some of my first conversions for an admech army and wanted to do a converted Magos to lead one of my Detachments.

I've got 3 ideas in mind, first is using a Slythe with a the Dominus head, axe and weapons.

Second is using the nightbringer shard with the same idea.

Third is taking the Cairn Wraith sorcerer from AOS and going a bit crazy with greenstuff to have cables and batteries flying all out from it like a Warsmith, with all sorts of weapons attached.

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>>55174262

>>55174281
Thanks anon. That's almost exactly what I had in mind.

What is a good generic CSM unit that I could use my 2 Bloat Drones for?

>>55173024
No. I believe it's missing the various matched play and advanced mission rules from the rulebook. It just has the basic rules that can be found in the free PDF as well as some mission rules tailored to the models in the First Strike box.

>>55174100
>>55174111
Nice work. The skulls in the acid pool is a great idea.

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>>55174262
No idea what a Slythe is so can't say how that might work out.

>>55174057
The only place i saw that fluff is on the webstore for the commander. Right next to the part they call his gun the "psychic ion blaster"

How do you guys deal with big smashy things, anons? My two Dunecrawlers aren't really cutting it for anti-vehicle given they're pretty much worse laspreds with shielding, and my firebases keep getting owned by Leviathan Dreads and Magnus or Girlyman charging into them. Does Admech have any units capable of killing stuff like that without three turns or so of focussed lasering, or should I just get another 'crawler and the Archmagos and put them together?

>>55174304
Greater Blight Drones from the FW Index.

>>55174359
Cyclic ion blaster

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>>55172677

>>55174111
very nice, maybe add some small rocks or something on the base, apart from where those skulls are it's a bit flat

>>55174356
>Angel of the Omnissiah

>>55174388
That's not what the webstore said, which is why I dismissed the part about their hands.

>>55171645
>Note that the guy is both DEATH GUARD and TAINTED so the fucktard here >>55170321(You)(Cross-thread)
>just could not get what I was talking about.

I'm not one incapable of getting how basic-ass shit works, autisto. You can't swap one Legion keyword for two. You are either Tainted, or DG, which is why that model affects Tainted and not Tainted Death Guard.

Now neck yourself for failing to understand basic as fuck rules you endless failure. Holy shit.

>>55174356
Damn, that's nice. What are those big metal wings from though? I'd love to give something like that a go.

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>>55174415

>>55174426
Dude, I was lost and other people gave me input.
We discussed the strategy and the role of that guy I asked about and its keywords. I have no access to the book so I really needed a clarification.
I cannot seriously do anything for your ASPD, I just have to say that I witnessed the best and the worst of /tg/ asking one question. Guess which part are you. Also:
>You are either Tainted, or DG
>>55171645
This guy has both, this is why I asked.
You are not only a low-threat psychopath, you are stupid, too.

>>55174457
The old finecast one you mong.

>DEATH GUARD - LEGION
>THE TAINTED - VECTORIUM

>>55174202
Xvl5 should make a comeback as a new unit, remove the mimetic field and call them something like line breakers strike units or some shit, I really like that armour design.

>>55174507
I've seen people use both them and the new ones as squad leaders

>>55174478
The one that's conveniently discontinued?
Not worth wasting time on a wayback search.

>>55174435
Well I see wing flaps from a dakkajet... or plasticard shaped like them, no idea what the mechanical bits are though.

>>55174526
I already tried. Only found third-party sites, no screenshots.

I guess a better resolution to this problem is asking where you found the fluff for handless troops?

>>55174469
>"i think that you are meanie :("

Are you fucking twelve, Jesus.

>Dude, I was lost and other people gave me input.

You haven't read basic rules. If you are not ready to put literal minimum of thought into this, why the fuck would you expect any consideration around here?

To reiterate, useless fucking assholes like you are why FAQs are filled with shit that's obvious to anyone who read the damn rules.

I am trying to make a CF list that focuses on marines and aura characters.

So far I have Pedro Kantor, a primaris ancient, and an apothecary. I can either use a librarian or lieutenants in the 2nd HQ slot.

I'm probably going to have a centurion dev squad for AT, a scout squad for troop tax, and a LSS for the scouts.

What do you guys think so far?

>>55174565
I didn't, i just swept in on what seemed a easily disproven claim.

>>55174435

They are the mounts for landraider lascannon sponsons + a cupola rind for an imperial tank hatch

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Are zerker centric CSM lists viable?

>>55174601
>landraider lascannon sponsons
So that's why I couldn't recognize them.

The only imperial kit I haven't looted.

>>55174610
Try .

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>>55174435
>>55174601

>>55174610
They probably work in a WE list if you can get them up the board. Their legion stratagem is fucking nasty.

>>55174610
If they are Alpha Legion, sure.

FREE deepstrike for your footslogging unit + being harder to shoot at.

>>55174576
You just cannot get it, right?
I read the character and I say that DEATH GUARD and THE TAINTED can indeed coexist in a model. Since I don't have access to the book, I ask help to verify if is possible and feasible with the due caveats (Plagues in elite, etc).
I have no access to the whole rules of the guy, so maybe I ignore some exception or a passage in which "you can" or "you cannot" is clearly stated.
Most people took the chance for a discussion, you sperged.
And again, if the two aforementioned keywords are IMPOSSIBLE to be at the same time in the same model, why that guy has them? You did not explain this.
And I am the 12 years old? I call you a psycho because you went full rage for a completely on-topic question.
You are pathetic.

>>55171743

>furibundus

There's no current dread variety with that name anon.

If you mean boxes those are Castaferrum.

>>55174092
10
keep them in small squads to grab objectives or be speedbumbs
now that all models need to be in terrain to get a cover save, 20 or 30 simply dont work.

>>55174580
How many points? And why centurions, they manage to be extra ugly and disproportionate among models that are disproportionate as-is.

>>55172314
If you don't have at least one unit of lightning claw terminators, you're not playing Carcharodons, and you're a faggot for pretending.

>>55174677
1500

I actually like them. I custom modified the legs to make them look less stumpy. I would much prefer assault centurions but I don't know if I can make them work

>>55174576
>"i think that you are meanie
Anon, most psycho are to weak and coward or just uninterested to actually cut people to pieces or become crime bosses/CEO.
Most are just lazy faggots that use the little power they have to bully the nearest victim. In a post office or in a mongolian image board.
You fit the bill perfectly.

>>55174658
>Most people took the chance for a discussion

Telling you basic ass rules is not "discussion", autisto.

>And again, if the two aforementioned keywords are IMPOSSIBLE to be at the same time in the same model, why that guy has them? You did not explain this.

I told you that you can't exchange one keyword for two, you actual retard. You can't give a unit both keywords. If this is your level of reading comprehension, it's no wonder that you don't understand how keywords work in the first place.

>>55174735
>psycho

I actually have no fucking clue why are you so hung up on that word, seriously.

>>55172403

Meh. He's a chapter master with a +1 thunder hammer. Not worth 185 with the level of utility he's lacking.

>>55174654

Literally aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-dudes from Serious Sam.

>>55174795
You don't have to pay 3CPs for the upgrade though.

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>>55174457
>>55174415
>>55174359

I went to check out the estore. Great stocking GW

>Commanders and drones sold out
lel, how completely shocking

How do you paint good skulls?

>>55174863
Using references is always good. I recommend cutting off your own head and checking the bone for maximum accuracy.

>>55174895
Thanks, brb.

>>55172610
>>>55172391
>So, is this ork attached to the deff dredd by his arse? Or is there a second ork in there somewhere, with the top ork being an independant gunner?

He's standing up as opposed to sitting down with the hatch closed.

>>55174895
Make sure you properly clean the skull first before using it as a reference. You don't want the bloodstains to discolor your best reference - easy rookie mistake to make.

>>55174919
Lorewise most orks are wired into their dredds.

>>55174862
Get saurus warriors as kroot and use skinks as kroot hounds anon.

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>>55174895
>no matter how hard you try you will never be able to see the Skeletons Skull, the one inside you right now, with your own eyes

>>55174937
>and use skinks
three on a Calvary base maybe.

>>55174945
Head injuries can help with that, the skin is quite thin on your scalp
Also Xrays

>>55174945
>he doesn't just pop his eyes out
Take a look at this faggot right here

>>55174786
If you read the thread, people gave insight about troops use and whatnot.
And I do mantain you are a psycho:
>I actually have no fucking clue
Your lack of insight
>this is your level of reading comprehension,
and the inability to put yourself in other people shoes (I said I have no access to the book).
Also,
>You can't give a unit both keywords.
But that model has 2.
I think you don't believe in what you are writing, you are just trying to bully me you get off from this kind of stuff.
Which is frankly kinda scary.

>>55174961
>with
>your
>own
>eyes
>no mirrors
>no xrays
>greentext everything
>Spoopy Skeletors

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>>55174862
Use terradons for drones and the saurus old blood as a commander, the one from the carnosaur looks pretty boss

How does chaos work now I don't get it. Is it just 1 "army" does CSM as an army on it's own not exist anymore due to the keywords?

Will competitive lists be a mixture of CSM and daemons using the chaos keyword?

>>55175018
>How does chaos work now I don't get it.
Same as always

>Is it just 1 "army"
No

>does CSM as an army on it's own not exist anymore due to the keywords?
No it exists as Traitor Marines

>Will competitive lists be a mixture of CSM and daemons using the chaos keyword?
So far none have because damons are pretty shit.

This is kind of what I am thinking, any ideas are appreciated

HQ
-Pedro Kantor
-Primaris Librarian or Primaris lieutenants

Elites
-Apothecary
-Company Ancient
-Sternguard Veterans x 10

Troops
-Sniper scouts x 5 in LSS
-Tactical squad w/ HB + Meltagun in Razorback

Hvy Support
-Centurion Devastators x3 LC/ML

>>55174863
https://youtu.be/rD7Shdx_VBs
https://youtu.be/X-6nTB3hKqw

>>55175074
Thanks!

>>55175009
Why the FUCK aren't lizardmen ported to 40k yet? They have some of the best models from GW hands down.

>>55175123
Kroot

>>55174987
>can't give
>model has

Are you incapable of understanding the difference between keywords you can give to model and ones he has by default?

>>55175123
Cause there's already two designed warrior species, they'd have to think up a new niche for them.

>>55175123
>tau "liberate" and "integrate" any and everything with a pulse
>not making your own "T'au S'kalies"

>>55175123
Too similar to Kroot, Tyranids or Eldar Exodites. Might work if the minor xenos thing does go through but not as a full army, too redundant.

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>>55175161
>Order Daemons
>tfw

Kroot is in a weird place.
Tech and refinement is the Tau thing, if you wanted barbarianism or crudeness you'd check out another faction.

Probably the reason why Kroot has fallen to the wayside.

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>>55175212

>>55175219
I think the other Tau empire races kinda fell to the wayside is because GW just wanted to make more retarded gundams because that's what was selling.

>>55175123
They were but taking some of the ideas for them and turning them into Tau.

>>55175219
If they had more than 3 shitty resin kits with no ability to form a full army, maybe people would buy them.

>>55175238
The gundams sell because they fit the aforementioned Tau shtick a bit better.

>>55175009
I feel the same way about Skaven.
But their shtick (insane and unreliable technology mixed with high numbers) is what orks are for I suppose.

>>55175294
>large suits
>Tau shtick

The Tau's shtick has ALWAYS been SMALL suits, XENOS AUXILIARIES, and hover tanks. If GW wanted to push the Tau shtick they would have made plastic Tigersharks and hover Hammerhead Baneblades.

>>55175295
Guard are also Skaven in a lot of ways.

>>55172448
I've run 15 Astropaths once. It was a lot of fun. Smite on 5+ for 1D6 is bad, but when you have 15 it works.

I loved it. Only cost me 225 points. I put them all in transports so I didn't have to do a lot of drops.

>>55175307

FW will have to do for fliers

>>55175307
I still dream for the Stormsurge hovertank conversion. In my head its somewhere between an obese Hammerhead and an Orca. At least four gravatic drives, the missiles mounted in one big battery at the back of the hull angled to sail over the turret.

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>>55174659
not him but
>The Furibundus Pattern Dreadnought was one of the earliest patterns of Dreadnought that was used by the Legiones Astartes. There exists little information on this pattern within current Imperial records. The Furibundus Dreadnought was similar in stature to the Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought, with a more rounded and squat chassis and legs.

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Screw conscrips, anyone scared of Guard codex due to stratagems?

Guard have the easiest time racking up Command Points, so when they get something beyond shitty rerolls to spend it on, they're gonna be really good.

>>55175262
T.sister fag
GW abandoned those who haven'tn't sold enough for obvious reasons, expect kroot and vespid get killed off camera with the super warp thing along sisters.

>>55175374
Yeah the SS is kinda... Ugly, fortunately most of the other Tau Gundams are decent looking enough

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Wew lad. When did thinks start getting so right.

> Nercomunda
> Real scale marines
> Slowly sweeping Aids of Sigmar under the carpet
> 40k Vermintide
> Not a Jew CEO

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Is there a reason for me to keep working on my old Space Marine models if they are just going to make Primaris versions of everything?

I feel like I'm setting myself up for disappointment when they eventually phase everything out the way they did Empire for the Stormcasts in AoS. Oh sure, all the existing Marine stuff will probably continue on as Legacy armies, but anything new will be exclusively Primaris Marines.

Should I just switch to 30k already?

>>55174610
Very. Just don't footslog them.

>>55175386
It'll be interesting
Guard player at my store usually ends up just burning them on 5+ armor save rerolls because he has so many and 'might as well'

>>55175399
Lore is shit though.

>>55175399
>40k vermintide

What?

>>55175394
While I have a soft spot for the look of the Ta'unar, I still deeply disagree with the Tau magically abandoning the "why the FUCK would you build a Titan we can make like 10 Tiger Sharks for that" mentality. Riptides are about as big as they should go, as its still a very mobile frame for its size. If nothing else I just want tanks that use a new bloody hull than the Hammerhead.

>>55175383
You´re a good Anon, Anon.

>>55175390
They'll never squat anything, just let things float in neglect

>>55175401
>He plays 30k with the toddler marines
Ha

>>55175423

Inquisitor Martyr

>>55175423
Upcoming Necromunda vidya I'd guess.

>>55175459
Not really a Vermintide as much as it is more of a 40k Grim Dawn.

>>55175444

Its that or replace all my Marines with Primaris 'cause its clear they will be the only ones getting models anymore.

Or play a filthy Xenos army and never worry about getting new models lol.

>>55175425
I like the FW suit offerings, they mostly hit the right notes with the big titan-v-titan hitters being Tigersharks with fuckoff railguns

>>55175459
Oh no, fuck that abortion.
"Lets make a lore rich game set as inquisitorial agents"
Year later
"Destructible environment *jangles keys*"

>>55175471
Not that guy, but I thought as much.

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Ha

>>55175433
>They'll never squat anything, just let things float in neglect
>Laughing tomb kings and Bretonian whores

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What's the best way to kit out a Blood Angel/Flesh Tearers Leviathan Dreadnought?

>>55175521
What do you want dead?
Grav Flux for most things/hordes. Super melta for armour

>>55175510
Man that TK squat came out of fucking nowhere

Great and almost entirely plastic line of models
Aaand lets stop making them

For fucks sake that Necrosphinx is Ancient-When-The-Universe-Was-Young Tier of awesome

>>55175480
I dunno my farseer skyrunner being from 2014 suprised me plenty.

>>55175521
Never liked that model, even more of a box than the other dreads.

>>55175401
>counts as primaris marines

Wanting to make alpha legion using mostly loyalist minis and downplaying the cartoonish evil look of a lot of chaos - what are some good bits and models to use to make some TACTICAL STEALTH BERSERKERS that are all the rage for them, while keeping a fluffy alpha legion look and not being covered in skulls and spiky bits

I plan to Kitbash flash git guns and other assorted stubbers onto aggressors or terminators to make purely mechanical Obliterators - They might be sub par next to other options but I like the unit and back when I was planning to make Iron Warriors instead had a plan in mind for oblits without the fleshy bits. I hear making them slaaneshi can make them pretty scary

How good are the Eisenhorn books?

>>55175521
Flux Bombard, that's it. That's all you need, dont even give it the other arm

>>55175532
Did I fuck up when I ordered my Leviathan by getting a Stormcannon Array and a Grav flux? Should I have gotten two Grav Flux guns instead?

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>>55175386
>mfw orders cost CP to use

>>55175425
It's one nutjob designing all those big suits.

The Tau even think of him like that. It just worked so they made a few more. In universe the big ones are rare as fuck.

>>55175619
As they should. They were basically army wide free strategems.

>>55175647
Just because you pick the faggot army aka space marines means everyone has to suffer your fate

>>55175619
It's literally the most logical use of command points

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First China order ever, I got some big shit

1x F-736 Kill Bursta/Kill Blasta Tank
2x F-141 Ork Supa Kannon
1x F-606 Ork Gargantuan Squiggoth
2x F-29 Imperial Heavy Mortar

>>55175584
Yes.

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>>55175486
It looks fucking boring, too!

The graphics look meh at best, the animations are complete shit, and everything seems to move/fight as slow as molasses. Then there's the horrible sounding multiplayer mode.

>>55175665
>implying
The best use would be shit like CP Deathstrike missile or some way to revive dead units.
You know infinity number of bodies thrown into battle.

Orders are like chapter traits

>>55175662
Hahahaha stay mad WAACfag. No more conscript cheese for you!

>>55175662
You can spot the most cancerous faglords by how they reflexively lash out and call others space marinefags despite the posts having nothing to do with or even hinting at space marines.

>>55175692
Taushits do this too.

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If GW made Primaris Sisters, would you buy them? I know I would.

>>55175705
Taushits don't exist anymore, they all play guard now.

>>55175507
Thats burdy gud.

>>55175623
One of them is a super artillery suit basically

>>55175572
Very. Next question.

>>55175734
> the cold cold truth.

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painting my cultists bright neon colors is alot of fun for slaanesh

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>>55175705

>>55175705
>b-but tau
Yes, people do randomly lash out at Tau in Imperium back and forths

Whats a good paint for writing on the side of your base?

Its a black base for me.

>>55175717
Only if they're like that art some anon did. You know the one.

>>55175688
>Points granted from command structure makes more sense summoning missiles than giving commands.

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>>55175688
Yup. Commands points for orders is a STUPID idea. "Hey you know that thing you're army NEEDS to function decently? We're putting it behind a barrier with a limited supply that only supports very specific unit compositions."

>>55175717
If I wanted Primaris I'd buy marines.

I want nuns with guns, using all the church money in over power gear

>>55175792
Maybe they'll y'know make IG function with Orders as a bonus, not a crutch.

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>>55175792
Get FUCKED guardfag!! Ahahahaha no more conscript cheese for you!

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>>55175784
Uh, no. But now I'm curious.

>>55175786
>He can't yell missiles into existence
pretty pitiful desu senpai

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>>55175836
These i guess:

How do I conscripts?
I think my wallet is fucked, because I use conversion parts

>>55175767
You don't.

Writing on base never looks good

>>55175786
>on my mark
>fire!

>remove that from my sight
>yes sir!

It would be easy as balls to do some random wounds with CP

>>55175786
If orders costed command points that would've been added in the index.

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>>55175891
Not even for naming your important dudes?

>>55175873
>i have t-to win at a-all costs!
Ahahahaha what a loser

>>55175623
Oh I know that, and I love the fluff for how he got the designs (siphoning funding from Stealthsuit research and probably only saved his neck by the fact his designs worked). The Stormsurge gets my scorn mostly because it is an ugly, ugly bastard and could easily have been a floating battleship rather than a walking one. I still want to own a Ta'unar someday even just to collect it, with the image of it effectively being the walking back line of the cadre's advance.

>>55175909
You make decals, or you have ungodly writing skills

>>55175911
Who are you quoting?

>>55175873
Fuck off WAACfaggot.

>>55175909
If the models isn't big enough to write on itself, they
are not that important.

>>55175934
>not having over 100 models all of them with unique features

Plebs

So do all FW chaos dreads get legion traits? I have a contemptor who would be a monster with the AL trait

>>55175912
Conversions of it look salvageable though

>>55175123
Just use their models and convert them! Their fat ugly triceratops or fat ugly ankylosaurus would make a great Squiggoth for the Orks, at a fraction of the price forgeworld wants. Someone already used the mount dinosaurs as mounts for IG rough riders, the list goes on.

>>55175955
ok finally found it on their rules errata and fw dreads count as helbrutes

>>55175997
Or you could get a Squiggoth for 32 burgers from China

>>55176026
Of you could get a toy Dinosaur for even less.

>>55175909
Especially dude names.

They are cringey

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>>55176044

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Are we still posting battle buddies? This is my 16 year old buddy, he likes to sit on warhammer models until they break.

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>>55175836

>>55175997
There's a woman who works at FW that does that. Her models and painting is pretty damn good. Pretty sure she still posts in /wip/ from time to time
She's a qt too

>>55176095
>tfw I had a 16/17 year old ginger cat who died earlier this year
Give your buddy a scritch from me anon