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Last Thread >>55163399

>Death Guard stuff from White Dwarf
http://imgur.com/a/90wRO

>Konor Campaign, one planet left
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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farsight first
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Powerfists 2nd
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Yessss my pic got chosen.
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Anyone know if Morty is gonna get the command point thing like his brother Gulliman? Friend and I wanna field both but I'd feel kinda scummy if i got extra shit just for being a ULTRAMARINE.
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>>55167633
we are about a week away from getting lite leaks and about 2 from youtube screen grabs
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How does this look for a 2k list? Storm cannon or grav bombard for the leviathan since they cost the same?

Space Wolves 1997/2000 Vanguard/SpearHead Detachments

++Vanguard - 868pts++
HQ - 140pts
Arjac Rockfist

Elite - 728pts
Dreadnought: Assault Cannon, Great wolf claw w/ storm bolter
Dreadnought: Assault Cannon, DCCW w/ storm bolter
Relic Deredeo Dreadnought: Autocannons, Aiolos, Twin HB
Wolf Guard Terminators x5: x3 TH/SS, x2 Twin Wolf Claw

++Spearhead - 1129pts++
HQ - 97pts
Wolf Priest: Plasma pistol

Troops - 140pts
x7 Grey Hunters: Plasma gun, Wolf guard pack leader w/ combi plasma

Dedicated Transport: 72pts
Rhino

Heavy Support - 820pts
Long Fangs: x2 las, x2 missile
Land Raider Crusader: Multi-melta
Relic Leviathan Dreadnought: Grav Bombard, siege claw w/ melta
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>>55167697
made a mistake one of the terminators should have a storm bolter/frost axe not TH/SS
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5 codexes left before christmas boys. Who are we thinking is gonna get lucky and get one, share your picks/hopes. Mypicks
IG
Tau
Tsons
tyranids
some marine chapter
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>>55167721
It's already been announced that Nids, Craftworld Eldar, and IG are coming by November.
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>>55167730
Really? Care to share link my man?
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Alright, I need opinions. Which of the following armies should I start building?

>Suit spam Tau, primary focus on Stealth Suits
>Vaporwave Slaanesh/Tzeentch
>Imperial elites flavored as Ordo Hydra agents (Deathwatch/Inquisition/Custodes/Ministorum)
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>>55167742
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/
>We also heard what the next three codexes will be following the release of Death Guard and Adeptus Mechanicus in September. Before the end of November, xenos fans will be pleased to see some of the galaxy’s alien races get their codexes for the new edition with Codex: Craftworlds and Codex: Tyranids, while Codex: Astra Militarum lets fans of the Imperium’s vast human armies create thematic armies from their favourite Regiment.
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>>55167742
literally on the catalog
>>55147104
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>>55167747
Vapourwave Slaanesh or Suit Spam Tau (As long as it isn't Commander)
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>>55167721
>5
There are two unknown. The confirmed ones so far are:
SM
CSM
GK
DG
AdMech
Eldar
Tyranids
Guard

So two unknown ones in December. Probably with no model releases. I'd guess:
Blood Angels
Tau
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>>55167747
Hopefully codex tau will make suit spam tau a little more viable while nerfing commanders
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>>55167766
of course its going to be commander spam, regular suits are a fucking garbage fire.
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>>55167755
>>55167754
Cheers lads. Cant believe i missed that, as a nids player im fucking stoked
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>>55167766
I'd probably run a Commander as my HQ; it's the only Tau HQ the LGS has in stock. Someone bought up all the Ethereals, but there are two or three Commanders in stock.
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>>55167747
Vaporwave Ultramarines.
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Pachow!
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>>55167796
Do you not have a Tau SC box?
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>Celestine army with Legion of the Damned and Sisters
>Gulliman with Ultramarines and Custodes

What would lead to a more enjoyable game for both sides guys?
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>>55167774
>Probably with no model releases
Yeah, what kind of idiot company would release new products in december?

Space Wolves and Thousand Sons. TS will get new models, SW won't.
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New Deathwatch codex when? Primaris flyer when?

I want Primaris Deathwatch (pic-related, not my model), and the Repulsor is too slow.
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>>55167820
They might have one still. Someone else picked up at least one of the SC Tau there, as well as all of the Pathfinders.

>>55167804
Tempting.
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>>55167747
tau
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>>55167844
>They might have one still. Someone else picked up at least one of the SC Tau there, as well as all of the Pathfinders.

Box is too good a deal to not have

>>55167774

Tau have rumours of new models, so who knows
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>>55167842
Nice model, is it yours?
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>>55167849
>>55167859
Alright. I assume there's plenty of room for trying a vaporwave or outrun aesthetic with the Tau? The sleek suit designs seem to indicate so.
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>>55167602
She's pretty cute
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>>55167570
Best place to buy recasts? 35 bucks for a Primaris Chaplain is way too much to be reasonable
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>>55167859
>Tau have rumours of new models, so who knows
Really? Got a link or at least a general source?
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>>55167911
It is Lady Atia.
Mostly reliable
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>>55167894
I want to get some FemCommisars but I haven't found models I like yet.
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>>55167885
It'll probably work
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>>55167901
Reddit
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>>55167938
Alright. I've spent a lot on models recently, but in a month or two, I'll join the fight for the Greater Good.
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>>55167899
For the guy who asked last thread.
The cones are green stuff shaped onto small bits of plastic pipe. I shaped three cones (one I'll use on something else later) onto the pipe, then cut the piping a few days later when they were fully dry.
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Tell me about this Primaris stuff. I abandoned GW after the end times but i'm feeling the urge to come back to 40k. Are the Primaris really just space marines but better? if so that's kinda dumb.
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>>55167927
Have you checked out Wargames Exclusive? They have decent or two Femcommissars, also in lewd.
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>>55167988
I meant to post the picture again to help anon find the post, my bad.
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>>55167996
They're literally just marines created with a slightly different, more stable, and easier to produce method.
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>>55167996
Marines with some extra organs and a new mark of armor. Old marines can also go through a conversion into Primaris.
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>>55168023
>Old marines can also go through a conversion into Primaris.
Have we had confirmation of this yet?
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>>55168082
was In the faq right as they introduced primaris marines.
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Is it possible to use regular crisis suits as commanders?
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>>55168131
Sure, if people let you of course
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>>55168120
Not quite. It came from the Warhammertv livestream about Primaris.
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>>55168131
Sure I guess as long as your opponent agrees and it isnt confusing to anyone.
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How do you model Deathwatch Terminators? Regular Terminators with the Deathwatch upgrade pack? Also, how many frag cannons does the upgrade pack or killteam box include?
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>>55167774
>no model releases
SoB and Orks confirmed
So they can keep selling infantry and scout vehicles older than the playerbase.
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>>55168212
I don't expect either of those books without some models. So I think they'll be well into 2018.
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Orks Necrons and Deldar are 2018
SoBs probably won't get anything aside from a standalone Celestine
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>>55168178
Let me just count.

1 frag cannon, 2 shotguns, 2 heavy rthunder hamers, 4 stalker bolters, 1 Infernus bolter, one xenoophase blade, 1 combi bolter (all options), 5 power swords, 2 power mauls, 2 storm shields, and 5 bolters.

From what i can tell.
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>>55168260
>Orks Necrons and Deldar are 2018
Considering greenskins and 'crons are still managing to hold their own despite having only the Indexes to use, I can kinda understand why those 2 factions have to wait until 2018 for a codex (doesn't make it any less annoying for Orkfags though).
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>>55168268
Looks like I'll have to improve my weapon recasting. Something tells me the blocky bits of the Imperium will be easier to mold blue stuff for than Harlequin parts.
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>>55168278
Same with DEldar. Even without the Ynnari, Venoms and Raiders are both brutal.
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I'm playing an ad mech army and from time to time I use a vindicare or a culexus assassin. I recently bought an eversor, In what situation should I use the eversor?
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Trying to make fun run at people list, although i'm two points short to give Ahriman his Disc.

R8.


Thousand Sons/Tzeentch Daemons, 1997pts, 5CP

>Battalion Detachment - 298pts, 3CP
>The Changeling - 100pts
>Herald of Tzeentch - 78pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts

>Vanguard Detachment -1284pts, 1CP
>Ahriman - 131pts
>5x Scarab Occult Terminators /w Soulreaper Cannon and Hellfyre Missilerack - 261pts
>5x Scarab Occult Terminators /w Soulreaper Cannon and Hellfyre Missilerack - 261pts
>5x Scarab Occult Terminators /w Soulreaper Cannon and Hellfyre Missilerack - 261pts
>Helldrake /w Baleflamer - 185
>Helldrake /w Baleflamer - 185

>Superheavy Auxiliary Detachment - 415pts, 1CP
>Magnus The Red 415pts
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>>55168131
>wants to play faggot ass commander spam
>won't get the proper models

kys tauscum
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>>55168288
Frag cannon is nearly impossible to re-cast, see it's barrel consts of 4 tiny spindly shocks that supports and muzzle ring.

Bette off nabbing Anvil Industry's Not!-frag cannon
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>>55168082
Why do dumbass faggots keep asking this?
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>>55168326
>>55168288
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Any feedback on my list here?

+++ pedro vanguard (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [81 PL, 1500pts] +++

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [81 PL, 1500pts] ++
**Chapter Selection**: Crimson Fists

+ HQ +

Pedro Kantor [9 PL, 170pts]

Primaris Librarian [7 PL, 105pts]: 2) Might of Heroes, Force sword

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: 5x Camo cloak
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Sniper rifle

Tactical Squad [9 PL, 176pts]
. 7x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Meltagun

+ Elites +

Apothecary [3 PL, 55pts]

Primaris Ancient [4 PL, 69pts]: Standard of the Emperor Ascendant

Sternguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 180pts]
. Space Marine Veteran: Special issue boltgun x9
. Veteran Sergeant: Special issue boltgun

+ Heavy Support +

Centurion Devastator Squad [19 PL, 465pts]
. Centurion: Centurion missile launcher, Two Lascannons x2
. Centurion Sergeant: Centurion missile launcher, Two Lascannons

+ Dedicated Transport +

Land Speeder Storm [5 PL, 92pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy flamer

Razorback [5 PL, 100pts]: Twin assault cannon
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>>55168332
Why do alcoholics keep drinking?
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>>55168300
It's never a bad time to field an eversor.

But they're best at terrifying squishy back line support troops, like heavy weapon troops or fragile characters
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>>55167831
I can maybe see the Burning of Prospero special characters getting single releases with the SW/TS Codexes. I mean, Geigor already looks more at home with the furry 40k space wolves than the Heresy era Wolves. Ahriman, admittedly, is more unlikely.
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>>55168326
>>55168336
Alright, thanks for the heads-up.
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>>55168332
Probably the lack of citation.
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>>55168351
I miss them being a Battlecannon shell on legs, turning command squads to red mist.
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You know, the murder sword is pretty meh. You're gonna get 4 mortal wounds on a character, but pretty much any other relic or even a power fist is gonna do better since they do higher flat damage or d3.
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>>55168381
SM's Burning Blade is in the same boat.
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>>55168300
these are the kind of things you should think about -before- you buy the damn model
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>>55168278
It would of been nice to see Deldar in the first wave, they have always had to wait the longest out of everyone, so it would been nice to go from 12 year wait to one of the first for the edition.
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>>55168381
Murder sword only really comes into its own against something with a big invulnerable save like Bobby g or similar defences, where they do work. Still, aside from that they're pretty good at clearing out MEQs on a world eater lord or something else with lots of attacks, -4 ap is nice
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>>55167570
If you have a Captain upgraded to chapter master for reroll any failed hit roll, is there any reason to take a chaplain since they kind of overlap or should I go with another HQ choice? My chapter master kind of hangs back while my troops jump in, so is there something that would be more helpful out in front? Or should I be jumping all in with my chapter master too to extend that buff to my melee units?
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>>55168336
You or anyone else ever order the chain spears from Anvil? I was thinking of buying a bunch to put on my berzerkers instead of axes but their one example picture doesn't really tell me enough of how big they are or how they'd look on a model.
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>>55168415
well can he buff everything at once? probably not because chances are you'll be spread out
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How do I spot a recast on ebay? I want to by some bitz, but some of it looks really wonky quality wise. It's bits.and.more an ebay. Especially the Cataphractii Torsos look kinda shitty, is FW really that ad at casting?
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>>55168403
As mentioned above, Dark Eldar are at least pretty strong with just the index. I'm looking forward to more options on my Archon but I don't feel like I NEED them
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>>55168431
Yeah, my army is mainly Reivers with Aggressors that hang back around the Chapter Master to really take advantage of those rerolls, but if I have a chaplain there's a bit of overlap since they both affect to-hit rolls. Should I throw my chaplain out with my Reivers or just replace him?
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>>55168439
Yes, they are. It's almost impossible to indentify recast when compared to forgeworld stuff.
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>>55168439
Duncan did a video a couple years ago about assembling a FW tank and he spent more time telling you how to fix the shitty casting than he did on actually assembling the tank.
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>>55168458
>>55168468

pic related
really, FW demands over 9000 limey shekels for this shit? God damnit, and idiot me was saving up for a Thunderhawk.
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>>55168359
Ahriman is already buyable separately
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>>55168478
Forgeworld is for people who dont care they're being ripped off, aka hardcore hobbyists with a terminal addiction to plastic crack.
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>>55168439
Does it deliver from Poland?
That's the first sign.

Does it look like someone took piss in the resin? That's the second sign.

Does it carefully avoid using any actual GW terminology?
That's third sign.

TLDR, If the location, colour and name is dodgy, skip it.
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>>55168468
>shitty casting

It happens with resin castings no matter what
People still don't know this?
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>>55168487
I'd pay full FW price, if it wasn't fucking resin.
I am addicted to plastic crack, but severely intolerant to resin trash that warps out of true if you ever should dare to roll up your window blinds.
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>>55168493
>>55168487
Eh, fuck it. This guy sells from germany, if it's a recast I'll just sue the shit out off him.
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>>55168402
Nah, I like painting and eventually I'll have all assassins so ...
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>>55168520
So much this. I want my fucking metal characters back.
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>>55168487

Pretty much. Last time I went to WW I browsed through the rack looking for an Inquisitor Lok set. I checked every single pack and they all had a huge mold slip from his head to the edge of his cloak.

Ordered a recast for half the price and bar a bit of flash it was perfect.

A lot of FW's stuff is absolutely shit tier. Its only the GWIDF and those that don't know better that keep them in business.
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Anyone got a link to the latest audio books like the Crimson King?

The current megas are thin on the ground in regard to audio books. I like to listen and paint.

inb4 an 'hilarious' anon links BL
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>>55168535
I just don't get why FW would even try to make Marine vehicles.
Sharp angles, clean lines, accurate fits, nothing of that's compatible with resin, all it's good for is plague toads and chaos trolls.
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So how strong is the Gravis Armour? Is it meant to be a replacement for Terminator armours?
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>>55168449
Yeah i agree, they can kick ass. I just would of liked for them to go from neglected to first wave release, justba show of faith to the deldar. I dont play deldar i just flirt with idea of it.
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>>55168551

I've only ever bought 4 vehicles from FW. Every one has been a shitshow.

Its a joke when you see what the Japs can accomplish with plastic and FW are still using resin. If I had the money I'd pay for their management to take a trip to Bandai factory.
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>>55167804
those bottles need to be a tad smaller
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>>55168563
Not only did DE get a book in 7th they got it pretty early soooo
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>>55168481
Yeah, they wouldn't have two different Ahrimans out at once. Though this guy would look pretty good in blue as just a regular sorcerer.
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http://imgur.com/a/YQXbF

R8 my dude.
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>>55168657
that's a 9/10 for me
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>>55168487
> Games Workshop is for people who dont care they're being ripped off,
FTFY
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>>55168562
Yes. crunch wise, one anon discribed it as the "Crawl pattern Walk-Bike"
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>>55168487
>terminal addiction to plastic crack
So far gone they'll use shitty resin for their fix
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>>55168657
8/10 would happily devour that biomass
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>>55168657
aboveTTQ/10
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>>55168696
I dont get why people are willing to spend ludicrous prices in an already "luxuary" hobby on inferior products.
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>>55168733
I can answer that.

Warhammer 40k, and many hobbies are expensive for what they are. As with other luxury items you aren't paying for the item but the dream. A baseball card isn't anything but carboard and a image but sometimes they can be valued at over $5000.

As with money it's not actually the cost but the demand and how we value the product.
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>>55168767
How many would pay the 5000 if the card was warped and painted on a cereal box with cratons?
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>>55168767
Start of a new month and I need a fix. I'd like to buy a titanic model for my chaos army but can't decide between a KLOS, Kytan Daemon Engine and a Renegade Knight. What would be better against a list with Guilliman or Imperial Knight or both?
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>>55168783
People pay millions for a blank canvas, paint splattered randomly, or something drawn by an animal.
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>>55168809
Khorne Lord of Skulls is better than a Knight nowadays, i think. It costs about as much as one without Hades Gatling and is way more tough and chopy, while being about as good in melee.
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RIGHT YOU GITZ, DA BOSS WANTS SOME ZOGGIN ORKY ROKK MUSIC FER 'IZ ROKKAS TO BLAST AT SUM 'UMIE GITZ DURIN' A SCRAP. DONT DISAPPOINT DA BOSS, OR YOU'LL GET A PROPA KRUMPIN'!
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>>55168783
It was a example smartass. Look at the prices for model railroading, collecting art, collecting and drinking rare wines, or collecting sports memorabilia. If you don't like something don't buy it.
>>55168809
Do whatever you want.
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Dubs names my Ork Warband

No NSFW pls
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>>55168880
We Wuz Lootaz
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I got so close to "finishing" my raider today.
I've got more little bits to do, and stuff like white on the sails, but it's mostly a touch of brass and some leadbelcher on spears etc.

Yet, I couldn't do it. I wound up packing up and going home. I had the same problem with my wyches etc, all I have left to do is minor, tiny bits.
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>>55168880
Da Greenery
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Trying to round off my 100 pl primaris force.

So far I'm running a primaris captain, & librarian, 3 5 man intercessor squads, a 3 man boltstorm aggressor squad, 2 5 man hellblaster squads with incinerators, 2 assault bolter 3 man Inceptors squads and a Redemptor dread with onslaught cannons

I'm also running a devastator squad with lascannons and a plasma cannon & 5 assault terminators.

I basically want to swap out the devastators as they're dirty manlets for a vehicle of some kind and feel I need more AV in general. I was considering a stormtalon with lascannons or laspredator.

Thoughts ?
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>>55168880
Bone Boyz
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>>55168899
Hey, that's pretty good.
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>>55167825
>playing Celestine and/or Gulliman in a friendly game below 2k+ points is pretty shit to play against.

I still want restrictive rules for primarch models to be unable to be taken unless your army already consists of 100/2k points
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Whats a good Imperium HQ for an allied detachment to go alongside some Marines? I was thinking an Eversor along with maybe some Custodes, maybe some Sisters of Battle in an Immolator, but I'm not sure who the HQ should be. How are Inquisitors?
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>>55168904
That being a general restrictions for LoWs probably wouldn't hurt.
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>>55168904
The 25% rule from Horus Heresy should really be in main 40k but then they wouldn't be able to sell those sweet models.

This would mean you'd only see girlyman & knights etc in 2500+ games without some explicit prior consent.
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>>55168911
I'd use someone who buffs either the Marines or Sisters, depending on which you have more of
Inquisitors don't do anything else than let nearby units use their leadership instead of the unit's own which is, around 9-10
I remember that Greyfax is 10 but thats about it for what I remember about the stats
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>>55168904
>playing Celestine and/or Gulliman in a friendly game below 2k+
People do that? Friendly game here means A space marine captain and filling the rest of the points with lieutnenants for shits and giggles or all grot lists
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What is a Jokaero?

What is a Jokaero?
Let me think for a second
oh, he gets butt-naked
and then he walks through the street winking as the Slanneshi freaks
With a Lasgun stuck in his butt-cheeks

What is a Jokaero?
He just don't care
He might try to put a weave
In his nut hair
'cause he could give a fuck less
what a bolter bitch thinks
he tell her that her butt stinks
and all that

What is a Jokaero?
He drinks like a fish
and he starts huggin people
Like a drunk bitch
Next thing, he's pickin fights
with his best friends
Then he starts with the huggin again
Fuck!

What is a Jokaero?
A fuckin lunatic
Somebody with a rope died to his dick
The he jumps out of a ten story window
oh

This isn't nearly complete but thoughts so far?
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>>55168934
I wish we could get a clear definition of friendly game as this seems to vary wildly


In my mind it's building a good balsmced list with an aim to win but not running broken LOW characters or obviously stupid summoning bullshit/scat bike spam etc. Likewise trying to keep somewhat to the fluff, so lots of raptors in a night lord list, dreads & tanks in am iron warriors one etc

It's not taking stupid shit that will mostly suck for the lulz to me at least, which honestly is just as much of an obnoxious waste of time as bringing girlyman and knights to a game
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>>55168944
Needs more 40k specific stuff in the last two verses
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>>55168540
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=black+library+warhammer+40k+audio+books&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Ablack+library+warhammer+40k+audio+books
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>>55168562
It's basically a better version of Mark III Iron Armour for the Chadmarines. So not as tough as Termy armour but more manoeuvrable.
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>>55168911
A unit of Sisters actual make really strong allies because of how Acts of Faith work. You get a unit that basically has an extra activation every turn. A Canoness with a power weapon and Storm Bolter(or combi if you have more points) makes a good cheap HQ to use with them and give re-rolls. Or you can go with Greyfax for some excellent cheap Psychic defense.
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Do daemons have their own book yet
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Company Vets with Storm Shields/Storm Bolters seem like they'd be pretty cost effective and survivable, am I wrong?
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>>55167927
Heh
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>>55169093

So funny, oh my sides.
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>>55169167
Mortalwounds.jpg
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Are Obliterators enough anti-tank for Emperor's Children? Do slaaneshi demons have any anti-tank
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It's come to my attention that most of last thread was spent complaining about waac Guardfags taking nothing but Conscripts, Paskishers, and super heavies at 1k points.

I'm here to remind you that there was a Guard Anon who only owned BC Russ, and only played infantry squads instead of Conscripts, and ran Ogryns, and played ineffective but fun fortifications as his "LoW" instead of overpowered and undercosted flyers or Baneblade variants.
My favorite part? You fuckers sperged him away. Autism brgits autism and this guard meta is a bed you made. You gotta lie in it.
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>>55169221
Cool blog, how do i subscribe?
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>>55169221
No one cares, go bitch about forum drama on reddit.
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>>55169167
Stormshields on marines sounds like a waste.
I'd go with sternguard vets honestly. Special issue boltguns are a lot more killy than stormbolters
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>>55169221
You're here posting now though
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>>55169234
a waste how?
makes your small sons live through that mean AP shit
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>>55169237
Naw, I can actually paint. I'm another Guardanon who's guilty about my shameful actions after everyone took a big steamy shit on them. I'm ditching scripts and going back to mechvets from now on.
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>>55167842

>I want Primaris Deathwatch

Why? They don't thematically go together in the slightest.

Primaris are mass produced and homogenous, with no veteran units besides the command staff models.

Deathwatch are snowflakes with a billion equipment options and made up entirely of vets.
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>>55169268
It's an old retarded bait pasta, ignore it.
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>>55169257
Because basic marines die to bolter fire fairly easily.
Rarely is someone going to focus high AP weapons on a 5 man marine squad with stormbolters.
A single marine squad firing bolters it going to take you down to half strength in a turn, without the shields ever making a difference.
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>>55169234
They're actually not. Their advantage is the range, but the storm bolters firing double the shots will, on average, do better.
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Chapters you want to know more about

The Death Eagles are one of those Chapters with a neat colour scheme and little else; theres conflicting information about their Progenitor, in that one source claims the Raven Guard (unusual in of itself) and another that they're the descendants of the few loyalist Emperors Children.

They're only mentioned a few times, but one of those is a pretty big one. At one point a group of five chapters were assembled under the death metal title of "The Pentarchy of Blood", brought together to wipe out no fewer than 11 other chapters that had been declared traitors. Other members of the Pentarchy include the Red Talons, the Carcharodons and the Flesh Eaters, so presumably if the Death Eagles are hanging with those Chapters they are some hard niggas
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>>55169279
They do the same against MEQ
Stormbolters are better against GEQ, and SIBs against TEQ and up
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>>55169280
Here, your (You)
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>>55169297
Taurans are a present chapter scheme in Space Marine multiplayer but literally nothing is known about them
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>>55169302
?
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I got a question
Say some Guardsmen who are REALLY fucking hungry and for whatever reason there is a freshly deceased Eldar right next to them. Would it be right if said Guardsmen ate the Eldar?
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>>55169314
What an odd Chapter to choose. I wonder if someone on the design team played them or something.
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>>55167747
fuck off, stealth suit spam is my jam
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>>55168450
Clearly he should be front-line with the Reivers, rerolling to hit in close combat is amazing.
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>>55169338
Life is the Emperor's currency, starving to death on duty is a waste of that currency.
That Xenos scum bears the guilt of its ancestor's folly and is a waste of life.
Nigga it's your fucking DUTY to eat that Eldar.
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>>55169340
That's the weird part too. Literally nothing but a picture in a paint guide 20 years ago. No progenitor chapter, no base, no tactics, no size, no founding, nothing.
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>>55167747
Stealth suits Tau. Love those things.

>>55169342
Mah nigga
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>>55169340
I like to think they're plainclothes Minotaurs.
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>>55167901
China
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Is there any information on what Marines wear as "Causal wear" ie anything that isn't Power Armor that they just wear around the Fortress Monastery
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>>55169362
Kek
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>>55169377
Togas
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>>55168898
Manlet vehicles.
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>>55169389
Something about 8ft tall 400lb demi-demigod wearing a bedsheet doesn't seem right to me
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Kind of a stupid question but what would a generic Tau crate look like? I want to make something need to transport my army in and I'm thinking either some kind of smooth/futuristic crate or a nicely made wooden box (with dovetail joints and my army's designation markings).

Don't know which to choose. Kind of leaning towards the box.
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I rolled up Blood Ravens on that marine chart thing yesterday and I was wondering on how I'd paint them? How to achieve that sexy red?
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Ok, so I've been planning to convert my Glottkin into a Knight just for fun for a while and I finally got some Knight armour and the Reaper chainsword

I don't however have any access to the guns and no one will bloody sell me any, so I was wondering whether you reckoned I could just use the right hand with the open maw as the gun and chalk/fluff it up as warp nonsense rather than having to model something I can't seem to get hold of

To be honest it's mostly for modelling fun, but I don't want to get REEEEEEEEEE'd at one day
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>>55169399
I would assume it would be some clean futuristic crate with beveled edges.
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>>55169377
The monastic style chapters probably wear monks robes. A lot of the others probably just wear utilitarian stuff.
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>>55169408
So long as people know it's a cannon most people would probably be fine with it.
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>>55168834
Mine was an example of low quality goods. not-terribly-smart ass.
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>>55169377
I think in the space wolf series, they're described as wearing tunics
Seems alright for space wolves, but I doubt it's the same for most chapters
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>>55169405
Duncan's tutorial says Khorne Red for the base colour, then wazdakka for the edge
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>>55169420
They probably just wear whatever the locals wear in the case of planet based chapters.
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>>55169359
Not counting second hand models and xv15s coming, heres my latest haul
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>>55168834
How do you think a model train enthusiast freacts if his 1933 swiss railcar is miscast so it lacks the company crest and the wheels wont fit on the tracks?
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Im getting a bit frustrated with my Tau Commander
Not sure what to do. The legs look fine, but the chest could have been a bit more thinned painted.
Not sure if I should leave it that way or disassemble the chest, strip the paint and do it one more time.

Any advice?
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>>55169443
maybe a wash and some weathering can save it? At least attempt it before the strip
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>>55169442
They probably file a complaint
The same as you do with FW?
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>>55169189
That Russian dude must be extremely happy that his OC now has a miniature.
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All this talk of Tau has got me thinking
What the FUCK is the purpose of their head vagina I mean hell as far as I know the Tau themselves don't know what it's for
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>>55169443
Just take a wash to the recesses and see how it looks first.
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Any thoughts on reivers with bolt carbines vs intercessors with auto boltguns?
The former look cheaper, have deployment or movement advantages and the -1Ld for enemy in close proximity. The interests are troops. I guess I'm asking why the intercessors have any point except if you need mobile firepower in a tiny game?
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>>55169454
>head vagina
Answered your own question
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>>55169454
Probably just an aesthetic thing.
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>>55169454
It's their nose.
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>>55169458
They have no point except if you need mobile firepower in a tiny game. But even then you'd be better off taking Reivers honestly.

Reivers just outclass them in every way.
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>>55168898
I'd say drop some inceptors for more intercessors, and a repulsor to carry the hellblasters into rapid-fire range is crazy for AV.
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>>55169443
Dont Strip it, just accept it and do better next time, it doesnt look that bad to be honest, just finish with wash and highlights and do some Battle.damage.

Stripping will likely make it look worse and is a waste unless its a rare Model.

If you Tau army is completely painted it will still look better than 90% of other Tau armies
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guys, are all vehicle lists considered cheese this edition?

I've been running mostly dreads with a knight and have been doing better than expected, and I'm always nervous about being that guy.
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>5man Rubric squad with Soulreapper
Whats the usefulness of this for a chaos player? I like the models.
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>>55169528
No.
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>>55169451
Most will change to one of a dozen competitors, leading to stringent quality control on the manufacturers end.
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>>55169528
In bigger games not really. Might be in smaller games though.
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Can you have two leviathan dreads in the same list
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>>55169546
Okay
Who are you going to go to?
Pretty much every recaster out there is either at the same level, or worse
Because that's just the nature of resin casting.
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>>55169550
like 2k?

my local meta is mostly mixed with a slight lean towards dude spam (not conscript spam level)
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>>55169552
Yeah, as long as you take a second heavy support choice for each one, since they are relics

>>55169566
It's fine then
At 2k points they should be able to deal with it
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>>55169533
What's the usefulness of an illegal unit? Beats me.
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>>55169581
>One Rubric Marine may may replace his inferno boltgun with a soulreaper cannon

Yeah, no, it's perfectly fine
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>>55169593
Unless there's something new in the Chaos codex, that line is preceded by "For every 10 models in the unit".
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I wanted to send a request to based duncan
How do?
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>>55169598
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>>55169603
Wh Tv Facebook.
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>>55169483
>is a waste
A waste of what?
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>>55169598
>Unless there's something new in the Chaos codex
Well yeah thats why I'm asking dumbass.
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>>55169613
Fair enough, you win. Either way that unit is designed to kill elite infantry (MEQ and TEQ) with high AP bolter fire. And you get to throw extra one mortal wound (D3 if you're lucky) a turn.
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>>55169555
Thats just it.
FWs quality is lax because there's nowhere to go within the law.
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Can a Chaos God be replaced?
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How big are ork kommandos? Nob size, or boy sized?
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I have more deathwatch bodies than I actually need, what's the most asthetic waste of time equipment combo I could put on someone?
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>>55169645
Even if you go to an entirely different game system, that uses resin models, they are going to be as good as the FW models, at best.
Modern casting techniques simply cannot get perfect casts a lot of the time.
Not unless you expect them to toss every slightly warped piece (Which can be fixed with hot water in about 20 seconds) until they get it all perfect.

>>55169648
Yes
Slaanesh has been replaced in AoS with a skaven god
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>>55169620
Its a waste of your time and effort mostly, depending on what you use to strip and how much you fucked up during Priming and Painting it will fuck up the detail more than they were before. It also may cause several joints to break very easily.

Then you need to spend time to clean the model post stripping, dry it, and then repaint it.

I dont reccomend Stripping unless you have improved your Painting skills considerably since you last painted it as it wont look much better or if its a rare/promotional Model. Then again "Rare" old Metal Models are easy as fuck to strip and repaint.

Its also good to see your improvement by looking at your older Models.
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>>55169666
Leading back to Resin=Garbage.
Which has become the industry standard because its ok to make shitty models if you use a shitty material which everyone else does.
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>>55169665

>Intentionally stupid Deathwatch veteran equipment

I dunno, inferno pistol and storm shield?
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>>55169681
Yeah, full plastic would be great, but it's not really viable a lot of the time.
The high selling kits like Mk3 and 4 marines are made into proper plastic because in high volume it makes sense
But for the kits that sell maybe 100 times a year or less, it makes no sense to spend the money to tool up a machine, if you're not even going to make back the money you spent on tooling it.
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>>55169666
>Yes
I see, now how would one go about to replace Tzeentch without him stopping it before the plan is even finalized.
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>>55168402
Who pissed in your cornflakes?
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>>55169715
You can't beat Tzeentch unless he wants you to beat him. Which is more likely than you'd think.
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>>55169280
Ninja!
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Is that accurate?
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>>55169652
Boy sized
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>>55167633
>Will <other primarch> be as good as PLUS ULTRA?

No.
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>>55169687

Not bad, but we can do better, I want the Deathwatch veteran equivalent of a shitpost.
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>>55169666
>Slaanesh has been replaced in AoS with a skaven god

Slaanesh wasn't replaced. He simply disappeared but his realm and influence still yet remain but without direction.

The Horned Rat gained much power so the Chaos Gods invited him to the main Pantheon of Chaos. He isn't there to replace anyone simply to get an equal seat in the table.
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>>55168904
Celestine is pretty mandatory for SOB lists, unless the sisters player is intentionally pulling punches.
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>>55169431
Hey Duncan seems pretty cool thanks for telling me about him. Easy to follow his tips.
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>>55169746
Nope because 8th has brought more people out of retirement than the recession, you could do hot chick=primaris, dude=marinefags, gf=marinelets however
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>>55169669
Stripping is easy mode unless you've primed it with some sort of enamel auto-primer or lacquered it, just bang it in a tub of methylated spirits for an hour or two and have at it with an electric toothbrush
>Its also good to see your improvement by looking at your older Models.
That's a good point though
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>>55169757
>Magnus the Red is already better than Guilliman

:thinking:
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>>55169777
Shut up Tzeentch.
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>>55169777
trips of nurgle confirm
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>>55169746
nope
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>>55169737
Aright then it's time to try writing a fanfic where Magnus does war on Tzeentch with the end goal to replace him.

Keyword being try
>>55169806
Go fuck yourself Cato
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>>55169773
Yeah, I'm not convinced that resurgence of interest will last once enough of the indices and original rules are replaced by codex creep, new must buy of the month and snowflakes for people to realise 'old' GW is still very much alive and kicking.
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>>55169760
two powerfists
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>>55169771
The other option is a "melee" HQ that can't move fast like Celestine and her aura buff are only useful to ranged units, since melee stuff in the church already re-rolls to hit or has a character that makes them even better
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>>55169737
Not quite true. While he's pretty close, Tzeentch isn't infallible. The other trickster god types are more or less on his level, and he's shown there are things he's not capable of before, like how he needed Kairos for future telling.
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>>55167842
>>55169268
Deathwatch can already take Primaris units
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>>55169912
No specialist ammo for the bolt rifles though.
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How did GW go from pic to now. It's change over the last year or two has been insane
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>>55169912
Why can't Blood Angel / Space Wolf Intercessor Sergeants take Power Swords?
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>>55169912
The more I look at a Apothecary's backpack arm attachments the more I wonder how the fuck they would be useful in any way. They could barely reach whoever he would be operating on unless they were on a table, and even then the bulk of his armour would prevent him from leaning over far enough for them to reach effectively.
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Real men make rogue trader armies
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>his army doesn't have Sx2 -3 3D weapon for his terminators
>he has to use Poor Fists

Explain yourself Chaosfags.
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>>55169912
That's nice, but fluff wise Primaris units in Deathwatch make no sense.
>very flexible strike force with mutable tactics
>lol entire squad equipped with the same weapon.
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I had a dream where i was driving through cananda drunk on a freeway and stopped to kill 3 different individuals, when i eventually got arrested and sent to jail i got a small box from GW called "Idiot package" and it was a set of three pre-primed and assembled cadians with a starter paint set and brush. the box consistantly told me i was on an idiot on the package but was the same theme and quality of a regular box, images, text and all. there was also a little speaker that would play a recording of duncan calling me an idiot on repeat in the box. i deduced that if you spent enough money on GW they would atleast give you a little box of models when you were in prison to paint, though how i would make 3 cadians last 7 years ( i know 7 years for 3 murders thats like 2.3 years for one persons life lol ) i dont know.

what did he ( my brain ) mean by this?
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>>55169921
It would seem to me that the best units for Deathwatch to take would be specialty Primaris to help fill out their list. I think DW already have solid troop choices so they should probably be looking at things like Hellblasters, Aggressors, or Redemptors
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>>55168320
If I was you, I'd stick one blue or even pink in each unit of brimstones.
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>>55169965
>>his army doesn't have combi-meltas for all his terminators.

Explain yourself loyalists
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>>55169967
Apparently the Deathwatch received Primaris recruits that allows them to operate on a larger scale, just like everybody else. It's not really that much more far stretched than the Dark Angels having Primaris.
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>>55168336
Looks like a great blight launcher to me.
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>>55169968
You need to stuff huffing Citadel paint and resin powder before bed.
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>>55169992
>needing anything but conscripts to win
Explain yourself marinefags?
Why are your armies so shit?
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>>55170009
start or stop?
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>>55170026
Stop. Apparently I need to do the same before hitting the keyboard.
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>>55170005
S' ok.

I have a shitload of guard GLs in my bit box tho.
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Hated the Nurgle Sorceror in the DI box, chopped it up, swapped some parts and green stuffed to change things up a bit

It's paintjob is unfinished, but thoughts?
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>>55169929
So they match the kits/codecies that will be coming out in who knows how long.
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so.....what are the total combinations of factions that can join each other using keywords? Do we have traitor guard yet or tau human aux?
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>>55170073
Jesus, that's come out much larger than I anticipated
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>>55170080
Probably Genestealer or Fallen.
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>>55170073
>thoughts

bloody penis hand
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>>55170049
B-but i like snorting my resin dust ;-;
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>>55170019
>muh bad brimstones

kek
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>>55170005
What is the BLs niche?
"Slightly more reliable vs 4+ units than Plasma"
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>>55170073
Stick still looks silly.
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>>55168949
this is how I define it. decent on the fluff, fun to play, and nothing that is going to screw over the other player in a way that some tactics couldn't counter
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>>55170073
You left the weapon that is the biggest issue of the model, looks something from a wood elf range
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Can someone help me with Necrosius, the Nurgle Sorcerer of Forgeworld?
Can I use him with a normal Death Guard list? I am not only thinking about co-buffing the Poxwalkers along with Typhus, but to make the melee Plague Marines more viable.
Can I give to the Death Guard THE TAINTED keyword and use him to buff a melee unit?
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>>55168934
>All grot lists
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>>55170288
>keywords are specifically introduce to avoid buff stacking
>"c-can i stack these buffs on units that don't have required keyword"

And that's why 90% of FAQs is filled with dumb fucking shit.
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>>55170295
real talk, I would run a grot list if Chapter Approved gave me one
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I hope that a FW FAQ comes out and clarifies if Rapier Batteries are at -1 AP for Thunderfire shells now that actual Thunderfires are also firing -1 AP.
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>>55170295

That fucking image makes me smile every damn time

>>55170341
I'm sorry, did you jsut have a fit on your keyboard?
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>>55169824
>What is Skarbrand?
>>
>Top 8 Nova teams are literally 4 Chaos and 4 IG lists

Can't make this shit up.
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>>55168934
That's less friendly more cadual/goofy in my optics.
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You know, I just wanted to say thanks to all the people who scan and upload stuff to the megas. You're cool people and probably very attractive.
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>>55169340
I find it weird that they had the Night Lords badge and Midnight Blue color but it wasn't a legion scheme.
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>>55170385
posts lists
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Are Orcs able to feel something like friendship or companionship?
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>>55170500
Sort of. Ghazz is quite fond of Grotsnik and (formerly) Makari.
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>>55169454
Gotta get your daily dose of psychic pheromones somehow.
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>>55170485
Results
>http://challonge.com/NOVAInvitational
Lists
>https://mismatchedplay.com/2017/08/31/nova-invitational-lists/
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>>55170321
I asked:
- Can I use it along with typhus? If yes, is ok if I buff 2 different units?
- Is not clear for me if a unit can be THE TAINTED and DEATH GUARD at the same time because at last on existing unit can.
But hey, thank you for the help anon.
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>>55169405
What marine chart?
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>>55170519
Cheers, my dears
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>>55170521
Couldn't theoretically some units of Plagues switch to Elite and become TAINTED?
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>>55170080
Traitor Guard are covered under the Lost and the Damned rules.
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The Tau did nothing wrong.
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>>55170578
>I'm taking your worlds to SAVE you from yourselves
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>>55170525
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>>55170519
The winning list was Conscripts and Taurox Prime spam backed up with Elysians. Ok then.
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>>55167570
is there any 40k art better than this?
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>>55170578
The Tau are an expansionistic authoritarian, fascist even, caste empire.

They do plenty of things wrong.
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>>55169890
The new codecies are fairly balanced. The fact that none of the primaris marines are OP tosses the idea that GW hasn't changed out the window.
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>>55170613
Just think, if it was Konor they could give those Conscripts 2+ saves!

>>55170565
If they mean Chaos Guard, yes. Renegade Guard? No, not anymore.
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>>55170519
>alpha legion
>alpha legion & world eaters
>raven guard
>alpha legion
>alpha legion
Really activates the old almonds. Also, celestine & elysians seems a popular combo among imperium players.
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>>55170621
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>>55170621
There is.
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>>55170500
Well Ghazzy has his "best enemy" feel for Yarrick, Grotsnik is someone he likes to have in front of him in constant view and Makari was really hard to kill no matter how foul Ghazzys mood got.
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>mfw I just bought a Stormraven Gunship for my BAs

What's your newest acquisition, /40kg/ ?
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>>55170621
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So would it be considered shitty of me to take a gauss pylon in a 2000 point game? I need something to handle stormravens but I can't help but feel that the pylon is overkill.
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>>55170658
Everyone was debating what the strongest Legion tactics were. Everyone said, nah, it won't be Raven Guard/Alpha Legion, it'll be x or y but at the end of the day, the ability to deep strike and STILL be able to move after alone would be enough to make them the top, the to-hit penalty is just a bonus.
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>>55170695
Flood water.
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>>55170710
Shame Chimera's lost Amphibious.
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>>55170715
beat me to it
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>>55170685
I wish I had the skills to convert a IG commander after that cool fur pelt wearing guy in the bottom right.
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>>55170695
100 bases and 4 pots of Blackfire Earth
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>>55170695
Picked it up on a whim, Primaris are fun to paint. Have the apartment to myself this weekend so I'm going to catch up on my painting, though I'm still undecided as to whether I'll paint them as an OC snowflake chapter or an existing minor one; the Destroyers and Revilers are contenders at the moment.
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>>55170731
I was torn between Revilers and Black Guard and ended up going with Black Guard. Fits my playstyle well.
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>>55170695
Finishing up my Ogryn conversions.

Have a preview. Bionic eyes are hard.
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>>55170695
First Strike
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>>55170695
I finally bought a decent case. Got the big GW one from a friend for £50 so I was pretty happy with that. Thank god I won't have to constantly re-glue snapped spindly bits now.
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>>55170519
>Primaris Psyker
Why? Just for the smite spam?
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>>55167570
4 combi plas and 4 power axes, or some chianfists thrown in there
I bought this unit just to kill some guys Celestine, but after that he'll have a few tanks left
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>>55170757
>beastmen ogyrn
Nigger you just went full abhuman
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>>55170861
Almost certainly for Psychic Barrier, if g3s got that many conscripts.

IG-only buff. Adds 1 to saves. With Celestine's aura that would give all those conscripts a 4+/5++.

Nasty.
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>>55170861
And psychic barrier, yeah. Smite spam is nasty af.
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>>55170894
Yes, and?
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>>55170621
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>>55170621
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>>55170903
>>55170919
So outside of smite spamming there is little reason to add them in a pure SoB army.

Shame I miss the old random 10 point Psyker Inquisition had, it was neat as fuck to give prescience to everything.
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>>55170621
.
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>>55170894
>ogyrn some how are not abhumans?
Nigger what?
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>>55170950
As is, due to limited powers, no. SoB and psykers don't really mix anyway.
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>>55170521
>Can I use it along with typhus? If yes, is ok if I buff 2 different units?
You can use both and they both buff everything within range and within the right keywords.

>- Is not clear for me if a unit can be THE TAINTED and DEATH GUARD at the same time
Look at the faction keywords under Necrosius data slate. There is a Death Guard entry. Necrosius is a part of the Death Guard.

Depending on the details in the comming DG codex might or might not need to use a seperate detachment if you want to use his rule to affect The Tainted models.
Usually it is enough if the unit contains the keyword.
In short: yes, both work and yes they count as both Tainted and DG.
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>>55170974
That's my point, it's an ab abhuman, you couldn't be more abhuman than his dudes
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>>55170704
It's really annoying to fight constant -1 to hit. At least with nids you can just kill their venomthropes and be okay. But AL and RG can spam long range fire support from inside cover all day long and DGAF.
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>>55170621
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>>55170991
I wonder how long before an errata comes along.
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>>55170977
Thank you for you time, anon
This could make melee marines and DG in general a bit more interesting.
I see that we can
- Stack moral debuffs with icons and the bell guy
- Stack Poxwalker buffs
- Use sorcerers to support and protect the units.
Can DG use Warptime? It looks like a challenging army but kinda interesting..
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>>55170975
>penitent psykers
Like Greyfax but more suicidal such as Penitent Engines or Repentias.
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>>55171035
More trouble than it's worth. Psykers like that get fed to the Emperor.
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>>55171058
>implying that happens now that SoS are running around the galaxy
Did they ever gave a good reason to why SoS left the Black Ships?
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>>55171085
>any fluff about SoS in 40k except info that they live
LOL
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>>55171027
>Can DG use Warptime?
DG-codex will have the last word about that..
So far you have only the Index. Which excludes the Sorcerer but includes the Daemon Prince. A DP must use the Dark Hereticus discipline and may take Warptime. Any other psyker must use the Contagion discipline.

I personally would wait for the codex to drop so you won't have any nasty surprises.
Until then you have a very limited range of models you can use because of the limitation in the Index. If you start with smaller games, just using those units it should be ok, even if the codex chances a lot.
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>>55171137
What's terrifying about that is that head opens up
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>>55171023
Probably never. If they were going to do anything, they should just make it an optional buy in thing. 1 ppm gets you camo cloaks. Maybe make it available to vehicles for more points.
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With the "half your army has to be on the board at the start of the game" rule for deep-striking, does it go by number of units in deep-strike or models in deep-strike?
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>>55171217
Units
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>>55171165
>>55171137
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How worth it is this?
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>>55171229
Thanks my man.
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>>55171242
>30k/10
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every time i try to add the space marines codex epub to redium it just says "unknown error". Please help. i've been able to upload all other epubs ive ever tried no problem
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>>55170685
>That Catachan front line in the bottom left

Holy fuck I swear if Catachan had decent miniatures and rules I would start them as my second army
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>>55171242
Not really. Most of the cost is buying a Rhino/Raider/Contempt

I mean if you were to use ALL 5 UNITS its a good deal. But just felt like they bundled old kits with new toys to push the old shit
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>>55171242
Eh. It is a significant discount, so it's good if you actually want all the stuff. Still, the plastic Contemptor is kinda garbage.
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>>55170626

>Flying land raider with 24 Hb shots or quad lascannon shots anti air flakk shots and missiles, charge resistance , cheaper than actual land raider, - can only transport primaris
>13 wound dreadnought with 18 Hb shots and 2d6 Frag shots and anti air missiles
>3 man t5 unit with the potential of 72 str 4 shots.
>3 man t5 deep strike unit that duel wield assault -4 plasma cannons or heavy bolters in each hand
>Girlyman for mass rerolls

>Not overpowered though lulz

How deluded are 40k players ?
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>>55171354
Tournament marine armies don't run Primaris stuff.
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>>55169777
wrong
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>>55170521
>>55171027
I thought that THE TAINTED didn't cover DG, and so Necrosius couldn't use his aura on them, but he could use nurgle spells on them
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>>55170875
HELP
>E
L
>P
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>>55171354
And yet none of them are actually OP. Wild.
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>>55170757
Minotaur Ogryns, nice

Beastmen army?
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>>55170626
>none of the primaris marines are OP tosses the idea that GW hasn't changed out the window
That was always a load of BS.
New Models never equaled OP

Otherwise Orkanaughts, Flash Gitz, Assault Centurions, Hunters, Stalkers, Maleceptors, Breachers, Thousand Sons (excluding Magnus) would have been bananas.
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>>55171354
The only thing good is the Repulsor
The rest dies to a basic SoB list without problems.
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>>55171354
>whoa HB shots and S4 spam with no invuln
>FUCK a dreadnought that's BIGGER
>HOLY SHIIIIT
ok

Guilliman is not a primaris model.
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>>55171354
outside of guillman none of those units are at all OP, and guillman was added in 7th not 8th.
way to show you either don't play the game or haven't played with or against primaris
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>>55170757
>"my Ogryn conversions"
>not Bullgryns
ONE. JOB.
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>>55170987
They could have plugs and wear crocs.
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>>55171419
How new are you?
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1ksons 30k castellax as a chaos decimator. Good proxy or shit?
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These guys look alright with different colour schemes.
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Rate my Alpha Legion list.

Not pictured is a Hellforged Leviathan, I couldn't find the Chaos IA shit on battlescribe.

>Chaos Hellforged Leviathan (359 pts)
>x2 Butcher cannon
>x2 Hellflamer
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>>55171238
Guilliman's new weapon for defeating Fulgrim?
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>>55171493
Or turning him on Imperial side.
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>>55171492
should be CHAOS FW on the battlescribe listings
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>>55171456
Decimators are big. Like Leviathan big, just not as boxy.

The robots are small, closer to the size of regular dreads
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>>55171527
Hm. Just a helbrute then? Or could it pass for a contemptor?

And did FW just ditch the "normal" chaos dread rules?
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>>55171532
thread
>>55171532
here
>>55171532
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>>55171444
I have Bullgryns planned, but I wanted to sort out the kinks in the conversion process first. It's very complex.

Also due to a shipping error while acquiring the bits I needed I was sent some ripper guns and ogryn pauldrons for free. I decided to put them to use.

>>55171407
No, I just think the standard Ogryn model looks dumb, and there was a player in my old FLGS back home who did something similar. I wanted to do my own version.
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>>55169280
Neato, I like how naturalistic the overall colour scheme is. Make his teeth a different colour from his tongue, maybe.
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>>55171454
>A 6e codex written at the tail end of 5e is proof that all new models must be op.
>B-but GK5e wasn't written with 6e in mind.
>Forgetting Mat Ward wrote both GK5E and 6e
>Not remembering that the moment 6e dropped GKs drop from Eldar tier to Top-Middle.
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>>55171544
Helbrute, they're small.
You can put it on a cork base, but it lacks the imposing presence and it'd just look like a crap proxy to me

Pic is just a regular castellax, but same thing
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>>55169297
Weren't Death Eagles Purple and White back in the day?
They look way too similar to Death Spectres now. The similar names don't help.
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Could I use cardboard for modelling bases? I'm trying to create some raised areas on the base to create river bases and all I've got on me is cardboard. Will it decay or anything if I paint and prime it?
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>>55171386
This is why I am confused and I asked. I find online discussion of people citing the FAQs and still being confused.
What I get from this is that POXWALKER units will be buffed no matter what, but I am trying to see if I can make the Plague Marines TAINTED, at last as an "external" choice that goies to elite and would be used for a full-melee unit.
Note that the guy is both DEATH GUARD and TAINTED so the fucktard here >>55170321
just could not get what I was talking about.
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>>55171601
You can. Cork also works well too.
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>>55171601
You can coat it with white glue before priming if you want it to be a little more durable.
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>>55171617
>>55171676
I never even thought of that. Thanks anons.
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>>55171616
I only mean that one specific aura is for THE TAINTED which is pretty much just him afaik
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>>55171469
Someone post the funny astronauts.
On that topic, has anyone actually built NASAmarines?
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>>55171726
And this is why I asked: is there a way to give THE TAINTED to Plague Marines?
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>>55170295

>atleast it wasn't Salamanders...
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>>55170621
Yeah Blanches shit smeared on a canvas would be better
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>>55171704
Tricks from making terrain, where cardboard is used more often.
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>>55170621
This one is my favorite.
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>>55171590
>They look way too similar
They're hardly alone in that. There's at least half a dozen minor Chapters with more or less this colour scheme, to say nothing of the various ones that are just slightly different shades of red.
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>>55170073
>thoughts

Citadel will continue to manufacture models that look like someone vomited on them as long as people like you keep buying them. Stop the madness. Think of the children!
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>>55170723
Fur is pretty easy to green stuff in the grand scheme of things
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Can anyone help me, I'm looking at the Renegades and Heretics data sheets in the Imperial Armor Index - Astra Militarum. Does the mutant rabble data sheet imply they use fists in melee? Or what? It's ages since I read one of these, pic related.
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>>55168419
A little late anon, but I used them to make these primaris here >>55145246

They're not terribly long on Primaris, but they work well enough. Pretty good quality too - first time I'd bought from Anvil, and I'm quite content.
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>>55172814
?
You don't need a weapon to fight in melee. They get a single S3 attack
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>>55172873

OK that makes sense, I didn't mean to imply they had to have one. Out of interest would modelling them with hand weapons be fine from a gameplay point of view?
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>>55172919
Most people wouldn't have an issue. Be warned though, playing RnH is pure suffering.
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>>55171564
>5th edition in a nutshell.
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>>55172940

Are they as bad as everyone says?

I'm pissed they lost the fluffier stuff from 7E, but I still really like the units for conversions and modelling.

Is there any hope of FW releasing a further update? (Militia and cultists should both be a pt cheaper imo, especially Militia).
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>>55172231
>buying them
It was part of the starter kit, no way in hell I would have bought it seperate. Thankfully the rest of the models look good.
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>>55173040
With FW who knows. I wouldn't hold my breath. Losing militia training and such makes them worse guardsmen basically.

It's not impossible to play a weaker army. If you get most of your enjoyment from building and painting, it's retarded to pick an army solely on its ability to win games.

If you're a highly competitive player then you should pick a stronger army. It's all about what you want to get out of 40k.
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>>55173092

I'm mainly the former, but yeah good point. Thanks for the advice anon.

What are Genestealer Cults like? I've got a box of Neophyte Hybrids for conversions.
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>>55171986
>Yeah Blanches shit smeared on a canvas would be better
so just regular blanche art then
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>>55170621
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Is it possible to make an elite Ork force?

Is it possible to make an elite Mechanicum force?
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>>55170334
>>55170295
been planning one for a while now, but the sheer volume of shitty little greenies I'd have to paint has put me off a bit.

The essential plan was to take a Big Mek and two Warbosses in Mega-Armour as counts-as Boss-Kans, with the warbosses working to keep the 6 max size grot units in check.
Meanwhile, mission focussed grot tank squadrons (usable thanks to the big mek Boss-Kan) and grot mega tanks will pull the vast majority of the weight of the army, targeting Heavy infantry/vehicles as their loadout dictates. Kans will provide a bit of backbone to the grot-line, and Kanons and Traktor guns will provide fire support against vehicles and aircraft.
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>>55173512
>orks
Nobs in transports
>mechanicum
beep-boops?
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>>55173632
I was also considering modelling some runtherds as Grotissars, intent on rooting out enemies of the Grotvolution, such as other Grots who look like they might run away (which is all of them)
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>>55170073
Looks gross. Good job!
>>
I am trying to make a CF list that focuses on marines and aura characters.

So far I have Pedro Kantor, a primaris ancient, and an apothecary. I can either use a librarian or lieutenants in the 2nd HQ slot.

I'm probably going to have a centurion dev squad for AT, a scout squad for troop tax, and a LSS for the scouts.

What do you guys think so far?
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>>55167721
>female emps
delet this
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