Fate Of Konor Thread

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>>55151740
>Chaos
>Not the ultimate treat that won't be defeated unless it's according to keikaku
U mad imperial cucks?

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>>55151740
ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT

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>>55151740
Dude, it's literally half of the the armies in the game vs a single minor faction..... they need a handicap bro.

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>>55151760
>the ultimate treat

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>>55151760
>the ultimate treat
Oh yeah, kids' favorite

I've been under a rock, is this basically Storm of Chaos: 40K Edition?

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>>55151840
cereal thread?

>>55151865
Yes.

>>55151816
This.

I wish they'd be a bit clearer that this isn't necessarily a 50% to win battle, or stuff like >>55151974 becauses otherwise spergs gonna sperg.

>>55151972
Should we expect Ghazkull out of nowhere to browbeat the writers pet Chaos Lord?

Bet they changed their system to give chaos a win.

The planet map has the imperium aquila on it, despite text of a chaos 'win'

>>55152004
Though in that case one has to wonder what's the point of the overall meter when it's ultimately meaningless?

They could just have three colored bars representing who controls more areas and leave the meter for individual locations.

Oh right, this is GW we're talking about.

>>55152025
They've suddenly clarified that it's who controls more regions than who has the higher overall control.

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This is apparently Chaos controlled.

>>55151869
Post Tzeentch alphabet soup

>>55152077
So UK obviosly fell. Who else fell for good? EU or NA?

>>55151740
not only is it rigged, it also will end in a draw to uphold status quo
global campaign my ass

>>55152175
UK was very much Imperium controlled, the one I posted was EU. The only one that is obviously Chaos controlled is NA.

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>>55152175
uk was actually strongly imperial

it was na that fucked up

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>>55152004
>I wish they'd be a bit clearer that this isn't necessarily a 50% to win battle

They literally never mentioned that up until now, and the Icon for Drenthal still shows Imperium victory in spite of this supposed "rule" being in effect from the beginning. They literally just decided to introduce a bizarre stipulation halfway through to finagle a Chaos Victory.

Personally, I think the Death Guard Tallyman has been fudging the numbers again..

>>55152047
Funny that they never mentioned that before, and their system still shows the Imperial Aquila on Drenthal in spite of this supposed system being in place from the beginning, huh?

>>55152185
>>55152197
Wait, seriously? They usually were wavering.

>>55152228
It's certainly an odd twist, since the US has been one of the most consistently Imperium areas. Though I blame the Euros, since the US was a lost cause as of a few days ago and it was their area that was going to make or break it.

>>55152047
That literally never mattered before now. It is very definitely stacked in favour of Chaos

>>55152246
Anyways my thanks to Brits for staying loyal to the end and holding the line.

>>55152262
Stiff upper lip and all that.

>>55152246

What happens to people trying to engage in this who are not in NA, EU or UK?

>>55152280
You don't matter.

>>55152280
You share a region with the UK.

>>55152280
You share with UK. It's UK and Rest of World.

checking the other planets, the amount of zones controlled has no baring on the overall 'planet ownership' scale. On the first planet where imp are 3/3 it still shown chaos and holding about 1/4 of the planet.
Its obvious that GW just implemented this to push another chaos victory despite it being a player campaign.

Its the eye of terror campaign all over again
Why does this shit bother me so much tg?

>>55152312
>Why does this shit bother me so much tg?

Because they gave an opportunity for players to write the story for the setting, and then yanked it away at the last minute because they couldn't stand their self-insert getting stomped on.

If Storm of Chaos actually followed the campaign results, Chaos would have been eaten alive before it even reached Kislev.

Instead they ignored the results to give Archaon the narrowest defeat possible, then retconned it all, and then gave us End Times/Age of Sigmar.

>>55151740

Remember when Archaon was systematically btfo in WHFB but they pushed for their own narrative?

Remember when Abbadon was btfo as well but GW did the same?

GW wants to sell Death Guard miniatures badly and Chaos not winning any planet doesnt make up for a narrative that sells Death Guard

>>55152347
They need to stop doing these campaigns when they already have a set result in mind. It just wastes everyone's time.

Even when the stakes are as minimal as possible, they still fuck it up.

>>55152338
>If Storm of Chaos actually followed the campaign results, Chaos would have been eaten alive before it even reached Kislev.

That's not how that campaign worked.
Storm of Chaos was ultimately about how the Siege of Middenheim was going to end up.
Archaon was always going to get there.
The results actually fit and Chaos got killed at the siege.

>>55152347
And Abaddon wasn't BTFO,

>>55152366
From what I remember Storm of Chaos was actually about their advance towards Middenheim, and the vast hordes of Chaos were completely stalled at some podunk Imperial village.

Then as an extra fuck you GW wrote that Chaos steamrolled the village with no resistance after the fact.

>>55152386
>Then as an extra fuck you GW wrote that Chaos steamrolled the village with no resistance after the fact.
This is so Chaos, I couldn't contain my smile

>>55152366
>The results actually fit and Chaos got killed at the siege.
I know next to nothing about whfb but didn't chaos end up corpse fucking everyone and destroyed the planet? Even after they consistently kept loosing. That doesn't sound like the result fit.

And the armless got consistently destroyed in the 2003(i think it was then) campaign. So much so that they retconned the ending (twice)

GW has a history of fucking up these campaigns. They should just pick a random backwater system and do it properly. Somewhere near the warp tear, and then update the warp tear if chaos wins(which they won't if it's truly player driven). It's not hard

>>55152366
Look at the Eye of Terror archives.
Some how imperial total victories meant very little when chaos won minor victories in random shit like a capturing a cupcake.
Chaos latterly was cut of in space, so planet bound forces of chaos got fucked in the end.
Some how the crushing defeat of chaos meant a victory.

GW still thinks chaos marines are as popular as loyalist marines

>>55152366
>Chaos got killed at the siege.

Well, Archaon got hit by a cheap shot from Grimgor and then he had to go back to the Brass Keep to recover and fuck the Empire up at a later date.

And then, it was all retconned out anyways.

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>>55152410
Going just by the results it literally would have ended with Archaon getting bodyslammed to death by Valten and Luthor Huss.

>>55152386
>From what I remember Storm of Chaos was actually about their advance towards Middenheim,

It was about slowing the horde so that the defenders could garrison Middenheim. Chaos was slowed and so when it came down for the Siege they didn't even really get onto the walls.

But they were always going to get a siege, that's what people never get.

>>55152411
>I know next to nothing about whfb but didn't chaos end up corpse fucking everyone and destroyed the planet?

That had nothing to do with Storm of Chaos.

>And the armless got consistently destroyed in the 2003(i think it was then) campaign.

Again, no, Chaos won the Eye of Terror fair enough.

>>55152416
GW had an algorithm for deciding the EoT results. Chaos players early on learned how to game that for maximum results. Chaos won EoT no bones about it.

They realised too late that maybe having a two-way fight when over 50% (if not more) of the played armies are Imperials, along with allowing Xenos players to contribute towards the Imperium would result in a total wash for them.

So in an attempt to save face, they'll give two """victories"""" to Chaos and then go "SEE? SEE? YOU COULD'VE WON! IF ONLY YOU'D TRIED HARDER! Also pls by the new Primaris(tm) Marines, they're the most epic and sick models ever released kiddo."

The Imperials are still going to win, it's just by giving Chaos two planets they can shut down any claims it was rigged (go figure) or that it was so poorly designed that Chaos never had a chance. That and the usual "it was a hard fought battle and Chaos almost won but luckily due to the return of Gulliman and his greatest of warriors, the Primaris Marines, victory was eventually achieved!"

>>55152365
This. Bring back the old campaign books.

The site seems to take results and the information from them and spits out results. By the Machine, the Imperium won. It's only by the biased human actor, GW, that Chaos has won. Fuck, they even did early damage control on the Regimental Standard last night.

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>>55152448
>GW had an algorithm for deciding the EoT results. Chaos players early on learned how to game that for maximum results. Chaos won EoT no bones about it.

Looking at how Konor is being handled right now, I question this.

I'm sorry if I'm being kind of salty, it's just that I imagined that a relatively low-stakes campaign wouldn't need any number fudging.

Didn't that whole Season of War thing end with a complete victory for Stormcasts? I guess they really wanted to sell their minis...

>>55152455
>"it was a hard fought battle and Chaos almost won but luckily due to the return of Gulliman and his greatest of warriors, the Primaris Marines, victory was eventually achieved!"
>implying

The results will be written such that Chaos will accomplish some obscure, never-before-mentioned objective that means everything the Imperial forces did was pointless and it's actually an overwhelming victory for the gods.

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>>55152476
praise be to the omnissiah

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>>55152476
Fucking GW has the gall to question the Omnissiah?!

>>55152047
Just checked this and saw myself. I figured as much (why bother with regions otherwise) but now we see that the overall planet tracker is pointless.

>>55152496
>why bother with regions otherwise
It's not like players can target a specific region.

>>55152365
Because they're glorified promotional stunts to get you to buy their new shit.

You can literally earn points by going into a shop, putting down money for the models and then build/paint them ideally using their products.

So maybe /tg/'s more cynical than most, but Lil Timmy's looking at the brand new Primaris Ultraternals the Redshirt is trying to ram down his throat, and on top of that he gets told that YES TIMMY IF YOU BUY THESE YOU TOO CAN ENSURE KORNOR IS SAVED FROM THE EVIL DEATH GUARD! So naturally there's another incentive for the kids to spend their holiday pocket money on 'em.

It's a Literally Who sector anyway. Chaos could've had complete, crushing victories every week and it would mean absolutely nothing anyway since there's plenty of other sectors in Ultramar they can handwave as "well they surrounded and contained them there lol."

>>55152480
>I'm sorry if I'm being kind of salty, it's just that I imagined that a relatively low-stakes campaign wouldn't need any number fudging.
Not him but i completely agree. I'm actually angry at myself for being so salty about this shit. I knew it was going to happen but i still held out hope that it would be done properly

>>55152490
See also the last thirteen Black Crusades.

>>55152023
Nope, because GW made it so Xenos gain nothing from participating, not even a fluff mention.

>>55151816
ITS TWO FACTIONS GAWD
YEAH, ONE OF THOSE HAS ALMOST ZERO GUNS. WHAT'S YOUR POINT

>>55152490

It's the new status quo of Games Workshop's writing. They move the story along just enough to put out a new Primarch, but in a way that feels lifeless.

Every Chaos victory involves the villain getting his arse kicked (because after Damocles GW is terrified of hurting Space Marine feefees) but 'muwahaha I actually was distracting you from this super evil ritual, so who's the REAL loser here?!" but it never gets brought up. Ever. Again. Meanwhile the Imperium wins the actual warfare part of it.

So in the end, Chaos fans feel like they've been robbed of a satisfying victory because it mostly comes down to "and the Space Marines were so epic and sick and for the emprah bro!" and Imperial fans feel like they've been robbed of a victory because "but in the long term you've already lost lol" And Xenos players aren't satisfied because short of sucking Gulliman's cock it's not like they exist as anything but punching bags to sell Primaris now anyway.

>>55152519
What's with all the nufags acting like the 13th Crusade was 'stolen' from the Imperium? It was the opposite. Chaos winning genuinely surprised GW, so they handwave some crap about "yeah well you won on the ground... b-but you lost at Battlefleet Gothic, so your reinforcements are never coming and both sides are screwed long-term!"

Then it got retconned anyway, probably because the Chaos victory meant that they'd have to move the story along instead of perpetual standstill on Cadia (until Gathering Storm appeared but let's not pretend that had anything to do with the Summer campaign).

desu i don't share the saltyness of others in thread. Yes they fudged and they shouldn't have, but the never really said if it was regions or not, they did it in a pretty clean way, you can't even be really surethey really fudged( eventhough they obviously did). Also the campaign in general is so overwhelmingly favouring imperium they needed to fudge to make it a remotely nteresting campaign.

>>55152582
i mean that's cool and all but you shouldnt jack off and type at the same time

>>55152480
>Looking at how Konor is being handled right now, I question this.

I wouldn't. Chaos had a legitimately more organised player base, and the Imperium despite having superior numbers had more places to fight. Chaos also had one of the most relatively OP codexes ever made.

>Didn't that whole Season of War thing end with a complete victory for Stormcasts? I guess they really wanted to sell their minis...

This is probably the reason they're rigging Konor. Order won hard everywhere in Season of War to the point the other factions stopped giving a shit.

I think Konor is rigged, but not wholly. Imperium going three for three probably wasn't expected, so they had to rig the others so the fight mattered until the last planet. If Chaos pull off another "miraculous" it'll be unforgivable.

>>55151740
>It's fucking rigged edition

it's not rigged, it's just a pre-emptive retcon

>>55152448
>algorithm
>GW
Anon chaosfags had dedicated forums to report fake victories and still lost. Even the SoBfags stomp chaos players during EoT.
That is why there is so much salt when chaos wins anything, in this kind of events GW always rewrites the results.

Our own damn fault to think GW has learn anything.

>>55152622
You're drastically misremembering, especially if you think SoB mattered at all.
At that point in time Chaos players were much more numerous that now, probably because they had the most powerful codex and they were better organised.

>in this kind of events GW always rewrites the results.

They didn't rewrite the results though.
Chaos legit won EoT. They legit lost SoC. They legit lost FoMV. They legit lost TMC. They legit lost even the recent SoW.

>>55152610
Kek

>>55152686
Read the archives of EoT didn't won shit.

>>55152686
No point arguing with LSMfags. They insist Games Workshop hates the Imperium even while 70% of releases are some variation of Space Marine, 8th has been nothing but Primaris wank and throw a gigantic tantrum like spoilt brats every time an 'NPC faction' gets a win over their power fantasy men (see Warzone Damocles).

>>55152707
They did win though.
Your narrative that GW writes Chaos to win the campaigns is false given that they've only won one campaign of the last five.

>>55152729
They didn't they lost everything but the random foothold in cadia, they lost everywhere and got lost the space control. That is why someone mention the SoB victory. Even them won something.

>>55151740
drenthal was an inside job

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It was super close guys we swear.

>>55152798
>They didn't they lost everything

They did not. You can keep lying, but you won't fool anyone who actually played, or anyone who bothers to look at the results.

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ITT: Imperialfags whining that the system might actually be rigged against them after laughing at chaosfags who whined about the system being rigged against them

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>>55152366

War of Armageddon - Imperium won... but wait, it's a draw and a stalemate

Storm of Chaos - Archaeon beat the fuck out... but wait, the Emperor and Valten get BTFO, but Grimgor comes up, beats Archaeon, but then lets him live.. and everyone goes home nonchalantly.

Siege of Antioch - If the Lizardmen get all the artifacts, the world will be drowned in chaos. They got all the artifacts. Oh wait, they were really good guys, honest.

Ichar IV - Nids BTFO... but wait, they just became splinter fleets.

13th Black Crusade - Chaos gets BTFO at every stage, but random events and random battles swing everything in their favour. Just as planned. It's ultimately a draw.

Oh, but we sold tons of figures. Thanks for your time and effort and money. You're like the domestically abused girlfriend who keeps going back to Chad for a black eye and a dick to suck.

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>>55152874
This oh so very much of this. You Imperials are a real piece of work. Chaos is stealing your shtick of being low numbers against a massive hoard valiantly.
P.S. Thanks for the full slave holds!

>>55152447
Valten's rules at that time though. I remember reading them in WD as a Chaos player and thinking oh shit that's OP

it's the golden rule.

Alien vs Predator.
Freddy vs Jason
Megashark vs Giant Octopus
Kramer vs Kramer

Nobody wins. Can't risk upsetting either side of the fanbase.

>>55152854
So not you, because you are clearly ignoring the result of chaos losing.

>>55152953
Technically the imperium is still in the lead. They should just throw the weight of their numbers around more and quit whining so damn much desu senpai.

>>55152959
But they didn't lose.

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>>55152854
Yeah nah your fucking retarded.

>>55152964
Except GW has made it now so that overall victories mean nothing. Even having more points on a planet doesn't mean anything if you lose by 2 points in one region.

>>55152366
>The results actually fit and Chaos got killed at the siege.
Man, I remember those days. Including time spent on those old conclave forums, and everybody laughing about how Archaon's siege tactics seemed to involve moving AWAY from the city based on his performance.

>>55152953
Freddy vs Jason, Jason decapitated Freddy. Jason won.

>>55152959
>>55152976

You fuck what do you get from lying? WE CAN LOOK UP THE RESULTS.

http://web.archive.org/web/20031218220327/http://www.eyeofterror.com/uk/newsletter/newsletterfinal.htm

Chaos lost nothing. The Imperial fleet winning and controlling the space lanes to Cadia just prevented Cadia from being overrun by the Chaos reinforcements. Chaos still controlled the space in the Cadian system and habve isolated the system from the Imperium.

It's without a doubt that Imperialfags are legit racists. shameless Ignorance, dishonesty, and retardation are hallmarks of racism. Punch an Imperialfag in the face when you see one.

Infinity Global Campaign had its problems, yeah, mainly with some players reporting fake battles, but at least CB tried to correct them.
This... is just a total mess. I hope they'll realize they can't continue to release marines and marines only and hope in a balanced player base

I said it from the start, GW won't let Chaos lose, they'll fudge the numbers in the end just so they come out with a tie.

This is the shit we Xenos players have to deal with now. Its gonna be Chaos bullshit the rest of the edition.

Chaos should have lost this planet, GW just gave them the win.

>>55153157
>everything saying chaos lost every important battle
>minor and random crap means chaos victory

Even when reading the truth they need to warp the result

>>55153260
Man you suffer from an acute case of selective reading and not being there at the time.

>>55152182
I've been saying this since week one. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just deluding themselves.

>>55153283
Said the kid trying to say chaos won EoT when GW has re written the bloody thing 2 times now

>>55153347
What does that matter?
Chaos won originally.

>>55153347
Chaos won EoT, idiot. Minor victory but a victory nonetheless.

GW ignored it to appease little cunts like you.

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>>55153347
Pic related, from WD december 2003

>>55153371
>>55153422
>>55153356
Shills

>>55153469
Racist.

>>55153469
>everyone who disagrees with me is a shill
>even when they actually provide evidence
wewlad

>>55153422
Saved for future use.

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WEEK SIX stratagems for chaos
Hahahahhahahahahahahahahahha

>>55151974
>over threw
>over all

Warhammer community page:
>"The final week of the campaign dawns – here, the Fate of Konor will be truly decided. The winner on Loebos will win the entire campaign, and with both sides making strong showings, it’s impossible to say at this stage who will win."
And then they say its not rigged, not even a draw for the imperium, time to exterminatus GW

>>55153738
>All planet must be equal to each other in significance

>>55153752
None of the previous planets have any significance now though. Nobody seems to have gained anything for having won those planets.

>>55153776
>QQ moar

>>55153786
I don't think I've actually heard anyone say QQ in years.

>>55153738
>The winner on Loebos will win the entire campaign
As expected

>>55152508
>It's a Literally Who sector anyway. Chaos could've had complete, crushing victories every week and it would mean absolutely nothing anyway since there's plenty of other sectors in Ultramar they can handwave as "well they surrounded and contained them there lol."
Pretty much why I find this baffling. The campaign literally has irrelevancy built in and GW still feels the need arrest some, if not all, player agency from the player campaign.

>>55153810
BRINGING IT BACK

>>55152896
>>Siege of Antioch - If the Lizardmen get all the artifacts, the world will be drowned in chaos. They got all the artifacts. Oh wait, they were really good guys, honest.

Sorry, i dont know much about WHFB, but there was a time when Lizardmen werent anti-chaos?

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>>55153786
>QQ

>>55152874
The system didn't have to be rigged, mathematically Imperium would have won.

GW should have been like, hey Chaos gets a multiplier.

So no, it wasn't rigged against Chaos, people just don't like you.

>>55155205
Imperium-fags are pissed that they lost half the Imperium due to plot fiat, Xenos-fags are pissed because all of their plots are being swallowed up Chaos, and WHFB-fags are still bitter about getting ripped off after Storm of Chaos and getting End Times'd anyways.

>>55155346
>Everyone else is the dick, not I!

>>55155463
I'm just saying why people may not be well disposed to Chaos as a faction

>The winner on Loebos will win the entire campaign
the fluff is cool but what was the point of the entire campaign then

>>55155586
buy more minis!

>>55153422
Thw last good campaign of 40k.
Newer ones are shitty written and rigged as fuck.

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I mean, not to be that guy, but are we sure it was 'rigged' in the first place? Do we have any legitimate reason to believe this wasn't just like a math or human error? For me at least the victories stopped cycling in constantly tended to stick on one or two, so I'd buy something going wrong.

>>55155640
The issue is that GW kind of has a history of railroading supposedly player driven campaigns.

>>55155674
I dunno about that. From what I can tell, the Age of Sigmar campaigns are decidedly unrigged (save by the base mechanics of like 70% of the armies being Order). Though EoT had that shitty ending where they factored in BFG, it was still a chaos victory. I don't know if they'd rig this campaign for no good reason. Theres no real incentive for it. so far as I can tell.

>>55155674
They have a history of rigging stuff to not advance the plot.
I would say they are over this concern at this point. They finally realized that 5 minutes to midnight for 20 fucking years is boring as shit.

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Lets see your Konor war faces niggas!

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>>55155948

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>>55151773
those results you hav ethere seem to be outdated

let me help you out! by giving you the updated results!

Be sure to buy and paint plenty of terrain to help defend the Konor system in this last all or nothing battle for the Fate of Konor tm.

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>>55155948
>Chaos made it all the way to Leobos

I knew relying on the fleshbags was a mistake, they can't do anything right.

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>>55151773
See you in ten days biiiiiiiiiiiitch

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>>55155948

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>>55155948
>loebos.png

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>>55156302
Chaos controls all three regions how is the imperium winning? GW is rigging it for the Imperium!

>>55156343
>Chaos controls all three regions how is the imperium winning? GW is rigging it for the Imperium!
My gut says it's just the shitty UI they've set up for this campaign fucking things up.

Just a guess.

For anyone interested, here's the low-down on Loebos:
https://warhammer40000.com/blog/week-six-loebos/

Basically Mortarion's trying to pull a 'Rocks fall, everyone dies!' despite not being the DM.

>>55156343
>>55156376
When I was on earlier, I thought the Decay of Hope was 100% Imperial, but now mine's blank too.

>>55156343
>still bitter about the american revolution

lol

Real talk tho:

We all know that if it goes to a 3-3 tie, GW's writers are going to bullshit some sort of Chaos victory out of this, right?

>>55156476
i mean Moratarion's flying space testicle slamming into every other planet in the system is a "victory" yeah

>>55152729
>They did win though.
Simply wrong. i'm looking at the results to EoT right now, the imperium held more planets (though if you give planets that were subject to exterminatus then it's a tie) and much more space. Chaos did not win, at most it was a tie.

>>55152953
>Freddy vs Jason
Jason won though

>>55156476
It will go to a 3-3 tie for a chaos victory. GW would rather blow up the system and never mention the campaign again than admit that chaos can lose, even in a allegedly player-driven campaign.

>>55156625
>GW would rather blow up the system and never mention the campaign again than admit that chaos can lose, even in a allegedly player-driven campaign.
Per the Dark Imperium novel, the Konor system's supposed to be really important. Something to do with one of the Tetrarch rulers of the 500 worlds of Ultramar or something along those lines.

So GW 'blowing up the system' doesn't make much sense plot-wise, especially since they're advancing the storyline now.

I guess xenosfags need to go all-in against Chaos this weekend just to shove it down the throats of GWs writers that "YES! CHAOS CAN LOSE! NOW FUCK OFF FOR AWHILE!"

All these "it's rigged" screaming imperial player's tears are worth the beginning of the campaign. You guys talked oh so much shit this whole time and now you tears could revitalize the last planet.

We all know its' totally rigged so that Guilliman can personally defeat Mortarion (since Morty can die but Guilly cant), and then still appease chaos by having it be a 'costly' campaign that destroys some of Ultramar's best planets.
Just as keikaku.

>>55156697
>Chaos players screaming its rigged at the start of the campaign
>Imperial players screaming its rigged at the end of the campaign
>Meanwhile, Xenosfags are stuck being the third wheel in what suspiciously feels like 30k bullshit

Someone needs to slap the writers at GW to quit with the Marine-wank for awhile. It's getting old.

>>55156697
>GW's automated system called it an Imperial victory before GW changed it manually and said overall planetary control doesn't actually matter
>I-i-i-it's not rigged gais I sware!
The funniest part about it though, is there are actually chaosfags on this board who wonder why everyone else thinks they're delusional and hates them.
Not that I think you're delusional. Just b8ing. Enjoy your (you)!

>>55156741
Actually, no. The system called it a Chaos victory while the overall control bar gave it to Imperium.

It was only later that planet symbol changed to the Aquilla.

>>55156771
>It was only later that planet symbol changed to the Aquilla.
The planet's symbol is currently a star of chaos. So if your story is true, then GW changed it manually into an Imperial Victory, and then manually changed it back to a chaos victory.
Now since I truly don't know which story is actually the most correct there's three logical conclusions:
It's rigged
GW is hilariously incompetent
or
both.
Which, to be honest, from what we've seen of GW the past decade, could really be any one of those things.

>>55156771
and thatd be cool if geedubs didnt shift the numbers around after the fact

>>55151773
>>55156055

>>55152455
I think this is the most likely. They didn't realize how much they've turned off non-chaos players (and even some chaos players I know) to chaos, and didn't expect chaos to get BTFO so fast.
So now they're trying to compensate to make it "balanced" but it just looks like rigging, which it technically is really.

>>55153484
nigger

>>55154767


their first release. Because Bretonnians were the good guys, Lizardmen were the bad guys.

>>55153085
>>55156581


Freddy winks at the camera at the end, implying anything but

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>>55155948

>>55152508
>It's a Literally Who sector anyway.
According to Dark Imperium, Konor is supposed to be some major 'sector capital' within the freshly re-established "500 worlds of the Realm of Ultramar" totally NOT mini-empire, so it's not actually a 'Literally Who' sector according to the new fluff.

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I just now noticed that this mission is set to run much longer.
But it will still end before DG actually release

>>55163032
>10 Days
So, Week 6 is more like a week-and-a-half then?

It also includes two Saturdays, aka the days when most games are likely to be played.

Guess it gives people more time to buy & paint terrain as well I suppose?

>>55163223
It's also LoW week so I guess they want people to have enough time to paint those too. It's also probably to allow any side that's losing to definitively push back or fail since during the week we just get a slow burn in one direction or the other.

>>55163262
>It's also LoW week so I guess they want people to have enough time to paint those too
LoWs are character HQs like Guilliman, Magnus, etc? Because if that's the case a lot of Xenosfags are SOL'd since aside from Yvraine you can't really find their models in the GW brick-and-mortar stores now.

>>55163328
Lord of War, Guilliman and Magnus are Lords of War, but not HQs, HQs are a separate troop type. Wraithknights, Knights, Banelbades, etc. are all Lords of War.

If GW is gonna pull shit like this, and not even be good at it, i think I am gonna swap to supporting Orks. At least then GW wont lie to me that I matter

>>55152563
To be fair, I think the poster you're replying to is talking about how the previous twelve Crusades got retconned at some point to all being 'just as planned' schemes to get different secret goals. (I'm sure a certain lore expert will be along shortly to point out that no such retcon took place and it was always true, but whatever.)
As to your point, though, I agree. And hell, I'm a newfag myself, but even I knew that Chaos won the ground campaign. Granted, I learned that fact from 1d4chan, which I've been told I shouldn't have been trusting, so maybe there's something I missed?
Either way, I'll admit that all these big events seem similarly sloppy, and only seem to revolve around two factions - the one that sells the most, and the one the writers jerk off to.

>>55153157
Dude, don't demean yourself.
Chaos is way cooler than antifa.

>>55166506
As a lore expert I advise you, a newfag, to stop bothering trying to follow the latest in 40k fluff. Every codex, every novel, every white dwarf is probably going to retcon something. Best to just go with what you know and like. The only people who stay up to date with every single change are jobless autists like Carnac who exist to shitpost and win internet arguments for e-peen points while mummy cooks their hotpockets.
One day they may even become an 4chan mod while mummy cooks their hotpockets.

>>55166597
That's generally been the plan.
My burgeoning, not-quite-finished force of Guardsmen is my focus, so I've got some vague knowledge on how they worked based on their codex and some Gaunt and Cain novels. If I ever get around to getting another army, then I'll start reading up on them as well.
I don't really expect to be 'well actually'-d about anything at the game table, so I'm not worried about it - sadly, the only point that the finer details of the lore seem to have is scoring in debates online.

So, I was reading the mission brief...

> If Loebos’ furious momentum is not stopped, the system-wide war still raging will be rendered irrelevant.

There it iss

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What

>>55166066
Join the Orks, steal the booze!

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>>55151816
Yes, we should be sporting and give them a handica- only kidding. Crush them. Chaos deserves crushing.

>>55155346
Xenosfag here, totally pleased by the Great Rift; my dark eldar and corsairs can go about the Imperium Nihilus and take what they will, slay where they please, with no imperial navy to stop them.

My necrons give no shits either way.

So, nope.

>>55152301
>>55152305
THE SUN NEVER SETS

>>55168692
if you look at the regions the imperium is loosing all of them, so that bar is wrong

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>>55155948

>when your chaos bro fucks off to Germany to fuck his girlfriend so you have nobody to beat and Imperium loses two planets in the time he is gone

>>55168768
Yes, what could possibly go wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zly_tL5mMc8

>>55169108
Saw the same thing. I don't know what the fuck is going on with this campaign, but it makes me disinclined to take part in the next.

>People actually thought GW wouldn't rig it in favor of Chaos
>When they have pushed the shit out of Chaos in every single campaign where it was relevant ever
Feels good being the writers' pet faction. Get fucked, Impericucks and NPCs.

>>55170033
>False flag champ.
So what army do ya really play post pics bruh!

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>>55170033
>bragging about being ADBs cuck

Purge the unclean

>>55152448
>Slowing the horde

Well that's funny because Chaos never breached Kislev on GWs battlemap. It was never just about preparing for the siege.

Nevermind how GW outright retconning their weekly fluff from players.

>>55170618
Storm of Chaos campaign was some good times.

>that fucking village Chaos continually failed at breaking past

>>55170768
It's a pity too, as the Old World powers were always much better organized than the Imperium.

Forcing Chaos to rethink its intentions and look to find new plans would have been interesting, while the Empire had to deal with an ascendant Vampire Counts and Orcs. But instead its just another "lol invincible doomhorde."

But maybe that's my fault for preferring Chaos as the hidden corruption and flaw within.

SM codex question.
Where is jump pack points referenced? Cant find listing in points index

>>55171856
Characters equipped with jump packs have a different basic points value.

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>>55168732
>Join the Orks, steal the booze!
Da Unkillablez Freeboota here.

My boyz looted all of Konor's booze back on Nethamus, and now we be gettin' drunk (or as drunk as an Ork can get on humie amasec anyway) and muckin' about on the other planets since then.

Oddly enough, the opposing army I keep winning against on a regular basis is the Space Wolves, aka the Imperium's drunkard marines. Go figure.

>>55171890
Cant find the option for either. Index has em listed as 2, 3 pts respectively?

>>55171953
What's your boiz next objective?

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Okay, this either has to be the incompetent site design by whoever made this for GW, or some there is some serious groxshit going on with this campaign.

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>>55172088
At dis point wez just lootin' bases from da spikey gits when dey ain't lookin and then krumpin anyfing that gets too close.

Don't always go well. Lost a bunch of loot-happy gits while trying to make off wid some humie flyers back on dat Drenthal place when some o' dem Dark Angel beakies showed up as everyfing was falling apart.

As for next objective... Wot dat black ball fing ya humies use to help make decisions? A 'Magik Ate-Ball' roight?

Da Unkillablez's Warbosses have been using Daemongob's (the group's Possessed Warphead Weirdboy) head like one to "ask da daemons inside him for suggestions". There's a big Khorne git and a bunch of other whiny daemons stuck in hiz head, and dey all sayin' we should give the Nurgle gitz a good an' proppa krumpin'!

Beats headin' back to Octarius and gettin' dragged into ol' Boss Thraka's WAAAAGH!!!

>>55172500
I wish people cared more about doing this then caring about the stupid slider on the website.
You're doing Gork's work, anon. (Or Mork's whichever you prefer.)

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>>55172076
they're right there, are you blind?

>>55172155
math is hard

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Why do you people even care who wins it?

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>>55173097
You're giving me a bit too much credit anon. In 1v1 matches and painting, most of the points I got have been subtracted from Chaos It's mostly just me doing it to spite GW/BL's "Chaos iz teh big bad gaiz! Hey Xenos! Help take down the Imperium!" bs they've been pushing all campaign. Pic related

However, when it comes to team battles (which at my store means its usually Imperium vs Orks + some Chaos help), I'm perfectly content to take points away from the Imperium.

All that being said, I'm enjoying the chance to expand my boyz fluff post 8th edition with these Konor battles.

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>>55173352
Because if Chaos wins, then Ultramar is finished.

>>55152185
United Kingdom? European Union? North America? What?

>>55173352
Fuck Chaos. AKA fuck ADB, Goulding and Carnac.

>>55173650
1)We all know that's not true, even though I'm sure you said it as a joke.
2)What does that actually mean to /tg/?
Do we want to stand up for Ultramar because we're sick of the way that the writing staff constantly wanks off Chaos?
Do we held destroy Ultramar because we're sick of the way every other aspect of the company constantly wanks off the Imperium?
Do we stand against the Ultrasmurfs because we can't stand their history insufferably-smug mary-suedom
Do we stand for the Ultrasmurfs because we have the same kind of daddy issues that we often criticize ADB for having, and therefore have to hold a contrary view of every opinion /tg/ held ten years ago?
Does it even fucking matter if Ultramar falls?

>>55173729
>1)We all know that's not true, even though I'm sure you said it as a joke.

No, Konor is a major system in Ultramar. Whoever wins will have a big legs up in Macrrage round 2.

>>55170885
I wasn't there for it, how was SoC organized?

>>55173683
Pretty much this, desu.

>>55174287
ADB is our friend. Carnac is senpai. Goulding is sensei.

>>55171953

That comic makes no fucking sense

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>>55175729
The Adeptus Mechanicus has all other factions beat in terms of indifferent cruelty, because they don't just treat people like things, they make people into things.

Ursarax are basically just melee oriented Thallaxi, but instead of careful lobotomization they are simply given anesthetic as relief from their endless pain if they comply with orders.

Something I just noticed. They said the Imperium took the Seastead, but when they changed it, they gave it to Chaos too.

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Holy shit guys, take it easy.

>>55178006
they fudged all the numbers on drenthal to make it seem more acceptable

probably why the counter for Loebos was/is so screwy

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>It gets rigged for the imperium
>Get over it chaos is for fags anyway

>It gets rigged for chaos
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Sublime.

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>>55178078
>UK now.

>>55178099
Someone needs to message them asking if they've got all their ducks in a row or is this going to need another post win """"Adjustment"""".

>>55178286
"Wh-when the counter's swung all the way over to Chaos it means they're winning!"

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>>55178335
shit, I could actually see that happening though

>>55178335
You joke about it, but they would say that the Imperium scoring that high in a piss easy mission would be needing "adjustment"" to better reflect """actual victories""".

>>55173440
>blue'umies
I legit thought this was referring to Taus for a second

>>55179194
>I legit thought this was referring to Taus for a second
Yeah, I'm not sure the writers remember how Orks refer to space marines. It's either "SPACE MAHREENZ!" like in the Space Marine vidya game, or 'beakies' (which is more a holdover from the rogue trader days than anything else).

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Wait a tic, Chaos is somehow GAINING ground?

While the Britbongs are purging the ever-loving Warp out of their asses in the UK?

Come on Geedubs. I don't want to become obsessed with the slider and just enjoy the campaign, but this is bullshit.

>>55178182
>implying CSMfags weren't REEEing like mad crying about model releases and codexes

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>June 2003

>LONG-TERM EFFECTS
>The results of the Eye Of Terror campaign will direct the future of 40K. If the Imperium takes a hammering at the Cadian Gate, Mankind will be facing a dark time in which Chaos is ascendant and the Imperium crumbles ever faster. Chaos forces will be free to attack at will and even threaten the Earth itself. Across the galaxy, men will look up at the stars with fear and know that the Despoiler is unleashed and plotting their downfall. Segmentum Obscurus and Ultima Segmentum will start to fragment as Mankind loses hope in the distant Emperor and alien invasions devastate their worlds.

>If the Imperial forces win through in their darkest hour and resist the 13th Crusade, it will herald the dawn of a new age. With devotion to the Emperor at its height and the great enemy thrown back, the High Lords will have an opportunity to win back lost territories and unify the Imperium. Mighty crusades can be unleashed against threatening alien incursions, seeking to eradicate them at the source. There is even talk of reinstituting the Space Marine Legions or incepting new successor Chapters from the victors of the Cadian Gate.

>One way or another, the future is in your hands. Try not to drop it.

>>55180263
>Its not hypocrisy if someone else did it too!
Honestly how did you miss the point that hard?

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>>55180291
I believe Anon is working on the Syndrome principle.

>>55180279
>GW altering results since forever
Even the narrative tells how the Imperium won everything but some how the minor chaos victories where enough to win the entire thing

>>55180291
>i'll point out people being hypocrites even though i did the exact same shit
How did you?

>>55180232
I assume it's actually taking into account the progress of each area instead of just overall victories after GW "fixed" it after the last planet.

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Speaking of 'fixed'...

>>55183908
Yep looks like it's swinging in the right direction now they fixed it :^)

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>>55184187
I agree, the planet's definitely swinging the right way right now.

>>55152262
Being Imperial is what we do best.

It makes no sense in the overall control meter since Chaos is winning in two other regions. But Chaos is winning anyways since as shown in the previous planet the faction that wins the most regions will win.

>>55184901
Are we getting different feeds? For me we're currently at tied/winning/losing.

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>>55152262
>>55152272

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>>55180279
ENEMIES
WE NEED ENEMIES

>>55181688
>I assume it's actually taking into account the progress of each area instead of just overall victories after GW "fixed" it after the last planet.
Wait, they were doing overall victories BEFORE Leobos? I thought they were calculating the progress of each area for the last 5 planets.

I'm heading over to my local GW store today and I'm on pretty good terms with the manager, so I'll see if he knows anything.

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They can keep 'fixing' it and we'll keep fixing it back!

>>55187301
>these fortresses are almost impregnable
>that gauge
Top kek.

North America seems to be dropping the ball a bit, but as long as the EU and UK can hold their lead, Chaos will lose until they find another way to rig it so Chaos somehow wins.

>>55153209
The Imperium had more over all victories because of a huge blow out in one region.
The other two regions were of equal significance.

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>>55187301
I wonder if they're worried now that they can't hide the rigging.

>>55187815
They weren't worried back in the day with Storm of Chaos. Doubt they got any more self-conscious since.

>>55187370
thats my favourite part

>>55178188
this really got me thinkin, wouldn't the iron hands and ad mech be best for fighting nurgles forces? They do replace alot of their bodies with robot parts so they're probably pretty good at ripping and tearing flesh off things.

>>55187842
>>55187815
>rigging

>>55187940
not particularly, nurgle's decay affects machines as well as flesh

>>55187301
>>55187370
>>55187815
>>55187879

It's times like this I wish I could draw. I have five or six ideas about this crazy shit that I want to give more detail to than stick figures.

Theme campaigns are always jokes showcasing the lack of faction balance. Why do they do these?

>>55188221
you can probably write short paragraphs instead

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Oh jesus I finally got the joke.

The Imperium wins the popular vote
But Chaos takes the electoral college

Well played, GW.

My store hasn't had any logged results for the last two weeks when I KNOW I bought and painted a couple units, reported them in, and the manager said "okay I'll mark those down." I just gave up and stopped painting at this point. What's the point?

>>55192651
We'll make Asatramis great again!

>>55187301
The Emperor Protects! Push them back! Make GW think twice!

>>55192651
But it's Magnus who wants to "MAKE THE IMPERIUM GREAT AGAIN!" not Mortarion.

If you're gonna be in on the joke Geedubs, at least use the right primarch.

>>55196119
Nah, they'd never do anything like that. It might have Magnus develop or something, which would distract people away from buying more Sigmarines.

>>55152077
Some of the Imperial forces are secretly Chaos...???

>>55192651
>Battle for the planet Konor.
>NA battles defined what happened with the prometium.
GW, you cheeky gits.

>>55172155
It broke after GW "corrected" the results from Drenthal.

>>55173650
>If Imperium wins, the Chaoswank gets btfo-ed
>If Chaos wins, the Ultrawank and Chadwank gets btfo-ed

What exactly is the problem again?

>>55173668
EU also includes the rest of the world.

Just a friendly reminder to people outside of the US, but on this planet your games LITERALLY don't matter. The objective of the planet is to stop it moving and the US is the one with the thrusters. Even if the EU and UK have 1,000,000,000 imperium wins for every chaos win, as long as there's one more chaos win in the US, GW will spin this as chaos winning

>>55178182
More like

>It gets rigged for the imperium
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>It gets rigged for chaos
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>It doesn't get rigged for Xenos
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55187940
Nurgle has diseases that infect machines. Like Meme and Obliterator Vire

>>55184901
Nah, the rule appears to be:

>If Chaos wins the majority victories and the majority regions - Chaos Wins

>If Chaos wins the majority victories and loses the majority regions - Chaos Wins

>If Chaos loses the majority victories and wins the majority regions - Chaos Wins

>If Chaos lose the majority victories and the majority regions - Konor gets retconned

>>55198591
No, the UK area includes rest of the world. That's why it says UK ROW.

>>55178182
Chaos is gay anyway. They should delete them and let the xenofaggots get some spotlight.

So... I don't play 40k but all the crying had me visit their site:
>All you need to do to take part is assemble and paint new units and/or play games of Warhammer 40,000
>assemble and paint $new$ units

Sasuga, GW. By twirling your neckbeard, you increased your sales by forcing angry players to buy even more toys.

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>>55200382
NPCs should go and stay go.

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>>55187940
>Iron Hands vs Death Guard
>which side hates itself more

>>55153198

BoW straight up thinks that making a balanced campaign system is a waste of time. As long as CB keeps using that fat Irish fuck for that their campaigns are gonna suck.

>>55200849
>DG try to use a machine-plague to convert the Iron Hands to Nurgle
>The moment an Iron Hand gets turned into a biomechanical Chaos Spawn, they just go "not this shit again"

>>55200536
fuck you burger

>>55180377

For those of us who were there... basically what happened is some people on the Chaos forums figured out how this "rolling rout" system they had worked, where knocking certain sectors below a certain threshold had cascading effects on nearby zones. This was used pretty extensively, and Disorder was whooping Order pretty bad, until GW went public with that information to put everyone on the same footing. Cadia, the planet itself, wasn't taken in the campaign because soooo many damn Order victories were piled into it, but many crucial areas *were* nabbed by Chaos.

I was off in Scarus sector with my orks at the time, shitting on Dan Abnett's playground.

Aight guys, so in my last session of Deathwatch I ran my players knocked the Broodlord they were going after unconscious before killing it, so they dragged it to the nearest pict recorder and livestreamed them killing it to the cult rebellion to break their morale.

The problem is that the way they killed it is a borderline heretical psychic ritual sacrifice done by the group's Blood Jaguar librarian. How do you think this will come back to bite them in the ass later?

>>55201074

Whoops, wrong thread.

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>>55152197
Makes sense.
Americans love chaos.