Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

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First for the Tau and best Commander. Fuck Separatists.

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>>55150483

New Deathwatch codex when? Primaris flyer when?

I want Primaris Deathwatch (pic-related, not my model), and the Repulsor is too slow.

1st for Khorne

Anyone have the Legion of the Damned novel? Can't find it in the megas.

Pls help

>>55150514
Stop posting this shitty pasta. DWfags are the worst.

4th for bored at work and I started 20 minutes ago

>>55150512
>>55150514
>>55150518

>taufag
>copypasta
>begging

Yeah this is gonna be a good thread

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>>55150514
>God-tier paint job
>Literal shit-tier base
But... why?

>No Tau dex soon
FoC never

>>55150529
Taufag? What are you on mate? I want some of the shit you snort.

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>>55150512

>>55150530
Corkfags gonna cork man

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Roll and paint you fucks. Don't just roll. Roll, paint post. Simple.

>>55150522
I want a DW codex too, I can't sell my shit until it gets here and i need money for my Death Guard and Deff Skullz.

>>55150483
Thinking about doing a tech heavy emp's children army, lots of warpsmiths and such. How does slaanesh feel about technology fluff wise?

just finished my first squad of rubricae.

Should my next purchase towards this army be a squad of termies, some exalted sorcs, go up a level and get Ahriman, or go full-on insane and get Magnus?

>>55150539
It's the new Goblin Green bases.

>>55150512
pretty sure everyone likes farsight
and last I checked there is no codex supplement shadowsun

>>55150539
I use corkboard for the rocks on my lava bases and nothing I've ever produced looks nearly that terrible. Granted I can't paint nearly as well as that Deathwatch guy so the visual difference between base and model isn't as jarring, but still.

>>55150542
At least split the shit by overall model kit.

Paint space wolves like grey knights.

>>55150555
Get Magnus.

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>>55150566
Magnus is bullshit anon. Do it

>>55150555
I'd avoid Ahriman and Magnus until you're certain you have the skill-level to paint them. Not saying whether you do or don't, of course.

I'd start with a second squad of Rubrics, personally. After that look into some Scarabs or some Tzaangors (great troop choice, but not everyone likes the look of them). Then Exalted or Ahriman depending on preference (5 point difference between them and Ahriman is superior in every way).

>>55150581
>reposting this reddit spreadsheet again
But why

Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>55150542

>>55150586
>Mareeen player btfo.

>>55150583
I'm looking to be as pure as possible with thousand sons. I might get some horrors, if just for ahriman daemon summoning, but I don't want more Tzeentch daemons.

as for Magnus, good thought. I think I have the skill, but more practice is always better. I might get more rubrics. Thanks anon.

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>>55150581
>Sisters in 1st
What sorcery is this

>>55150581
>>55150594
>those numbers
jesus christ, what a stupid chart.

>>55150594
I don't play muhrines tho. I just think that a self-reported spreadsheet compiled by fucking reddit of all places is a bad thing to base army rankings off of.

>>55150603
Becaise sister fucking kick ass man. Lots of melta lots of flamer.

>>55150586
>>55150608
its a collection of dakka anecdotes
not data, but gives a rough tier idea

How is it people still don't realize that the Dark Angles are the Knights Templar?

>>55150619
Because le gay xdddddd
I'm so funny amirite gaiz
Really though it's because people associate the Black Templars with anything related to christianity in 40k

>>55150618
I reckon it looks kind of accurate to be honest.

>>55150555
Terminators

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>>55150483
What Space Marine chapters have an undead feel to them? I have an idea for a Dullahan-type marine but I've no idea what chapter he would belong to.

>>55150618
I mean, with those widely varying numbers, one or two losses in one army far more heavily impacts the win percentage compared to others. The only reason marines are so low is specifically because there are HUNDREDS of players compared to less than 50 sisters.

that chart isn't anywhere close to accurate. and I'm a dark eldar player.e

Do I just pick a character or do I have to kitbash to have an Exalted Champion?

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>>55150581
>doesn't even have FW armies
get outta here with that shit

>>55150633
You'll have to kitbash it.

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>>55150619

>>55150630
Legion of the damned, obviously
MAYBE Sons of Antaeus

>>55150631
>that chart isn't anywhere close to accurate

I'm glad to hear we've got a GW tester here?

>>55150623
>Because le gay xdddddd
Even that goes into proving they are the Knights Templar...because that was among the charges Philip IV leveled at them.

>>55150630
Death Specter, Doom Eagles and Legion of the Damned, sorta.

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>>55150641
>Being this retarded

How do I beat a daemon prince spam?

There's this guy that always run a Magnus and 6 daemon princes. The smites are too much and the character rules allows him to cycle the princes, usually putting nurgle princes in front. Magnus can't hide, but by the time you kill Magnus, there's still 6 of these fuckers in your face.

>>55150603
Well see if the only SoB player in the world plays 2 games and wins one then Sisters have a 50% win rate
I the 400.000 Ultramarine players all play a game and 2/3ds being kids on a bandwagon lose, then Ultramarines have a 33/ win rate.

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>>55150653
>Sons of Antaeus
WHYYYYYY I WANT THEM AS AN ACTUAL CHAPTER.
I just hope Chapter Approved will give us that, and not just a single line of fluff.

>>55150682
Kill Magnus? DPs don't do much damage on their own and they fold easily to anti-tank weapons.

>>55150682
Take the objectives.

>>55150682
Don't play fags

>>55150682
what army you play?

>>55150658
Like I said, it's a stupid fucking meme that basically turns cool monastery catholic crusaders into le gays heretics xddddd. But either way who cares, at the end of the day people are dumb.

>>55150682
You could always just choose not to play against WAACfags. Or spam anti-tank weapons I suppose.

>>55150690
Yeah, they're pretty cool. I remember they had chapter approved rules back in 3rd ed along with the rest of the cursed founding, so it'd be nice to see them again.

What exactly is chapter approved

>>55150699
Necrons and Tau. Theres 0 defense against smite, at least necrons have reanimation.

That new power that gives magnus another +1 invuln save is shit.

>>55150483
>only 25 models! that's less than the Deathwing player brought!

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>>55150700

>>55150641
>Mk III shoulder on the left instead of the right

I mean I guess that's the sensible side to protect but it looks so weird.

>>55150728
Not much these days.

>>55150594
More like IGfag cancer deniers BTFO

or...SoB edition

>>55150728
Optional rules GW sometimes does. Oddball chapters like the flame falcons or relictors, Kroot armies, stuff like that. They're putting out one at the end of the year, no idea what it'll include.

Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>55150542
Some of these paint schemes are overly complex

>>55150738
The more important question should be why Sanguinius has fucking dreadlocks

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rate my list I'm probably taking to the LGS tomorrow. fully painted so I guess I'm not changing it...hope I don't get too stomped.

Loyalist Primaris “Thousand Sons” Grav Transport Deployment
(Raven Guard Chapter Tactics)
Battalion Detachment - 2000 pts

HQ

1 x Primaris Librarian, Force Sword, Bolt Pistol, 105 pts

1 x Captain in Gravis Armor, Boltstorm Gauntlet, Power Sword, 131 pts

Elites

3 x Aggressors, Boltstorm Gauntlets, Krakstorm Launchers 129 pts

5 x Reivers, Bolt Carbines, Grav Chutes, 100 pts

5 x Reivers, Bolt Carbines, Grav Chutes, 100 pts

Troops

5 x Tactical Marines, Plasma Gun, Plasma Pistol, Chainsword, 85 pts

5 x Tactical Marines, Plasma Gun, Plasma Pistol, Chainsword, 85 pts

5 x Intercessors, Bolt Rifles, 100 pts

Heavy Support

5 x Hellblasters, Plasma Incinerators, 165 pts

Dedicated Transports

1 x Repulsor, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Twin Lascannon, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 5 Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, 2 Krakstorm Grenade Launchers, 330 pts

1 x Repulsor, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Twin Lascannon, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 5 Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, 2 Krakstorm Grenade Launchers, 330 pts

Flyers

1 x Caestus Assault Ram, Twin Magna Melta, Two Firefury Launchers, 340 pts

>>55150639

Then just declare whenever I wanna use him? Alright, that's cool. I'll probably just get the Aspiring Champion.

>>55150738
>first they give Dorn a mustache
>now they give Lion a mustache

Sto mustachioing the Primarchs, drawfags!

>>55150729
>Tau
spam commanders and drones, buy something FW

>>55150764
>not making him WYSIWYG
Cancer
>inb4 that one eternally assblasted poorfag guardfag

>>55150769
How will a Krootox help?

>>55150738
Damn. A stache is so fitting on him and makes him look like an actual medieval warlord as opposed to a model for a harlequin romance novel.

>chosen can take combi-bolters
>5 chosen with 5 combi bolters is 90pts
Am I wrong, or is this solid?

>>55150766
They both look way better with mustaches. Should Kahn really be the only primarch with facial hair?

>>55150666
Satan if the other guys are called black templars and the dark angels are a gay joke/native american/monks why would I think they are a reference to templars? Why don't you explain it? Because you are retarded?

>>55150776

Why would you think Krootox?

>>55150788
DA haven't been native americans since 2E you tardismo.

>>55150786
>should the barbarian Primarch be the only one to shirk military regulations

Yes.

>>55150536
Are you actually retarded?

>>55150791
Because it's something FW

>>55150786
I dunno, do finns shave?

>>55150785

They'd be putting as many shots down as a regular CSM squad of ten. But it's a waste you should give them combi plasma or meltas and use the as a suicide squad against something you really want dead.

>>55150792
Why do deathwing wear bone white in the new fluff then? Still haven't explained your original point.

Imperium is going to win this planet.

>>55150805
Don't worry, I got the joke.

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>>55150805
I meant something from FW that is "balanced"
Necrons luck out with among the most obscene things.

Nothing Tau is broken from FW

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>>55150776
It would make you look less of a faggot by using it!

>>55150815
I'm not the original guy who called you a retard. Anyways they wear bone white for the same reason that their squad markings aren't numbers but are kneepad colors instead. Also only red poos are allowed to wear bone now?

>>55150788
Because history.

The Knight Templar
>Where the first monastic knightly order of Christendom.
>Had their headquarters on the Dome of the Rock
>Were an order of secretive warrior monks
>Were accused of Heresy and put to the stake for it
>Some of the accusations put against them were of sodomy.

The Dark Angles
>Were the first Space Marine legion
>Have their headquarter on The Rock
>Are an order of secretive warrior monks
>Probably Heretics and could be destroyed the Inquisition
>Homosexual

>>55150831
What fun!
Autohitting fliers.

>>55150793
Plenty of times the military has allowed facial hair, Anon.

>>55150848
It comes onto a new degree of absurdity when targeting <Titanic> All macro weapons do double damage then

>>55150793
Then why doesn't Leman Russ have a glorious Viking beard?

>>55150848
Hit, wound and save rolls of 1 always fail you idiot

>>55150848
1s still fail.

>>55150875
>>55150877
You add 1 to hit vs fliers, so they are 2s.

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>>55150847
Thankyou. Makes sense. But now I see why no one cares, that requires too much knowledge of history.I personally never cared for history anytime after julius caesar death Also IIRC the rock was a gay bar in nottingham so scratch that reference.

>>55150886
Not how it works friend

>>55150886
You're still hitting on 2s irregardless of the rule. And it's meant to ignore the debuff that Hard to Hit gives.

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>>55150886
Correct, just like subtracting -1 to hit means you kill yourself with rolling a 2 with plasma.

>>55150895
The rock gay bar thing is confirmed a fake. Or rather, the 1d4chan memers who repeat it never gave any proof.

>>55150886
That's not auto-hitting

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>>55150886
i dont know if are retarded or uneducated so here is the relevant rule

>>55150907
>f-fake
danglies btfo

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>>55150907
Ah ok. So they are templars in spirit but not in name.

>CWE codex confirmed
so this means there's not going to be just Codex: aeldari, featuring all 4 factions?

Thank fucking god.

Still, I'm curious how they'll do Ynnari. I'm going to guess they're going to do:
>Codex: Drukhari
>Codex: Craftworlds
>Codex: Aeldari, featuring Harlequins and Ynnari

both factions are tiny, and don't really need more units on their own as they're meant to be small, and because of their style, they wouldn't have regimental tactics or anything like that, so I think they'd fit together.

>>55150907
Damn, we don't have a single poster in that area to confirm it? And by confirm it, I mean go in and have sex with a dude in the bathroom.

>>55150914
Yep. More or less.

>>55150931
Pretty sure the shitposters who go around repeating that meme claim that it closed down in the late 90's. But no one can find any images or old phonebooks that list any such business in the area with that name. Makes you think.

>>55150938
Someone should build one, and put a fake plaque that says "serving the local community since 1974" on the building.

>>55150907
So is Ghazzy = Thatcher too.

>>55150914
Just as the Black Templars are Templars in name and not spirit. They are actually Teutonic Knights.

>Germanic
>Symbol is Black Cross on White
>Says fuck everyone and creates their own state/giant fleet based chapter

>>55150950
Ghazzy = Thatcher was outright denied by GW. This meme hasn't, it just never got proved.

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>>55150901
Are you calling me a liar anon?

>>55150929
>Ever thinking GW would shrink book count
lel

>>55150959
>Primarch of vaping
Loser

>>55150886
It literally is one paragraph. How can you not understand one paragraph.

>>55150958
>it just never got proved.
And even then we now have Drew Carey as a race, really makes you think about all this "coincidences"

>>55150969
there's currently no codex:ynnari, and tyranids didn't even GET a book last year.

plus, they're likely going to consolidate admech and skitarii together.

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>>55150969
I didn't had a non anime smug face

>>55150972
see
>>55150912

you're a buffoon. It's so you're always hitting even supersonic fliers on a 2.

>>55150978
>last year
meant last edition.

>>55150982
Non-smug does not exist in the 2D form

>>55150831
>Pistol X
not
>Pistol *
Fucking hell FW fix your fucking layout and editing

>>55150969
There's a hefty fixed cost to send a book to print, and if the army isn't popular there's a good chance that they won't recoup. I'm surprised they let so many sideshow armies keep their own books.

>>55150808
A squad of 10 CSM is 130pts, and unlike a full squad of 10, you can stick two in a rhino and get twice the shots.

>>55150969
>>Ever thinking GW would shrink book count
>lel

We already have an example of that. They combined Ad Mech and Skitarii.

Moving back from that guy failing at reading
The pylon is like 500 ish points. It can deal up to 108 wounds to a target that is Titanic.
Averages out to like 30 wounds per turn against T8 5++ knights

>>55151049
Cult Mech and Skitarii, they both were "Codex: Adeputus Mechanicus", though honestly the real proof about how much GW is consolidating books will probably come after the codexes are all released and they start expanding on armies.

>>55151037
With the addition of Ynnari as well as TS and DG each being a book. Doesn't look like book creep will stop, they mentioned new faction books

any good books that focus on da orks?

>>55151111
Mainly just comics, the Sanctus Reach books are okay though they feel like there were scrawled in the margins of a campaign book.

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Neat

>>55151142
>assemblind models before painting
Aside from GW who actually does this

>>55151142
who dat

>>55151142
Funny how that used to be the worst possible load-out.

>>55150969
is that why morty is such a cunt?

>>55151155
I do it all time. It's only sometimes a bad move.

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>Build your own Land Raider

Sonic Land Raider (aka Land Raver) incoming

>>55151157
Primaris captain with plasma pistol and power fist.

It's a store anniversary model so only available 1 day a year per store, so quite rare.

>>55151142
So when are we getting a space marine captain kit that isn't mono or dual-pose? Customizing your Captain was always the most fun about marines, being locked into 2 loadouts sucks ass.

>>55151174
Only Open Play, though

>>55151183
In case yu hadn't noticed, GW hasn't done a non-monopose marine HQ in years. Just take one and convert it with your bitz box.

>>55151182
Looks pretty cool

>>55150831
>>55151066
>vs Magnus /w Weaver of Fates
>3.5 shoots
>2.9 hits
>2.41 wound
>0.53 unsaved for 4.2 damage done

Although averages don't mean much here. Two shoots getting through will cripple Magny heavily - in turn, he can just save them all and suffer no damage.

>>55151204
What Bitzbox? There ain't shit released for Primaris and Manlet-weapons look goofy because they're too small.

>>55151229
there's a ton of primaris shit numbnuts

>>55151204
Besides the space marine Captain, the chaos terminator lord/sorcerer and the plastic necrons lord(?), have there ever been a non monopole miniature?

I know guard command squad exist but they aren't a single character kit.,

>>55151204
>in years
When have they ever?

>>55151235
Cool, I'm sure you can point me to all the Primaris Lightning Claws, Thunderhammers, Stormshields, Combiweapons and Power Axes then?
Oh, wait, you can't because you're spouting shit.

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>>55151197
Really? Disappointing.

In Open Play you can already made up your own units, so what's the point?

>mfw I will never see the Sonic Predator again

>>55151254
No you can't.

>>55151245
The space marine commander and the IG commander, as well as the Hive Tyrant?

>>55151243
I was thinking about the Tau commander when I was typing my message. Do they not get several possible loadouts?

>>55151251
Is the hand size difference that big? If not, off you go with baby hands.

>>55151265
Yep.

Codices IG and Nids make sense, they never got a 7th book. After IG will be interesting, outdated main factions will be covered at that point

>>55151265
They get loads of options. Ball joints for posing, loads of guns, optional Coldstar build

>>55151254
"We are also bringing a whole new feature to Open Play. Designing and building your own vehicles is a feature that hasn’t appeared in Warhammer 40,000 since 5th Edition."

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/

Sorry, anon. Hopefully GW will get their heads out of their asses and let people play with their sonic-naughts and preds in Matched again.

Chaos has lost this planet.

>>55151251
>Primaris Lightning Claws

spacesharkrubbingbloodoncheeks.jpg

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Which would be a better way to spend around 80 points

A rhino to cart around my second squad of grey hunters

Or a terminator pack leader with a cyclone missile launcher to provide more firepower for my long fangs

>>55151302
Another victory for the righteous.

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>>55151318
>>55151251

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>>55151302
>>55151323
Yet they posted that Chaos won for some reason.
https://warhammer40000.com/blog/chaos-victory-drenthal/

Why are they reporting a Chaos win? Look on the campaign page, the symbols over each planet show that this was a chaos win. rigged?

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>>55151323
>>55151302

This was the bar at the end.

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>>55151257
Sure you can.
It's Open Play.
As long as you and your buddy have fun you can do everything you want in Open Play.

>Hey buddy, can I bring some Bikers on top of Steeds of Slaanesh?
>Sure you can, but I can bring some Thousand Sons' Raptors with Inferno Bolt like in the artwork?
>Fuck yeah!

It's that easy.

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>>55150483
Totally not rigged anons, trust us!

>>55150759
Looks solid. Considered terminators for a bit of punch?

>>55151321
Wolf guard

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>>55151302
>>55151337

get your shit together geedubs

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>>55151356

Are they continuing to recycle codex art?
Anyway, nids this week in the vox npc report

>>55150619
Dark Angels are space Lancelot's

>>55151382
Genestealer Cults!

>>55151356
>>55151370
Now that I think about it the Regimental Standard that was posted yesterday said something about "allowing" Drenthal to be claimed by the archenemy so I wonder if GW isn't just ignoring the results and going full "lol alpha legion".

>>55151337
>The sense of havoc and confusion was only exacerbated by the actions of a hidden cult of xenos-worshipping traitors that had long lain dormant amidst the vore-whale trannies and promethium refineries of Drenthal.
I cant be the only one who saw this.

>>55151403
Yes, yes you are.

>>55151401
sort of a kick in the balls to the players

>>55151356
>>55151347
>chaosfags so pathetic that they actually need GW to rig the results to get anything done
My fucking sides

>sabotage failed
LOL
O
L

>>55151403
I could see the fun in hidden effects, to encourage people to go beyond a 55% lead.

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>>55151251
You don't need them. The size is fine.

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>>55151251
>>55151437

>>55151401
Well it's fucking working, I'm confused as fuck right now.

It appears to be fixed

>>55150512
Farsight a best
Shadowsun is a fag

>>55151444
I'm hoping it's just a fuck up on GW's part but how knows at this point.

>>55151450
The Vox chatter still has the Chaos victory post up.

>>55151421
>chaosfags so pathetic that they actually need GW to rig the results to get anything done again three times as many factions with 6 times the unit options.

Yeah chAOS SO SAD.

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>>55151450
Not really.

>>55151456
Enclaves time soon

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>>55151251
>>55151437
>>55151443
Now tell me you can't make your own captain like the big, responsible adult that you are. Weapons fit just fine.

>>55151459
>>55151466
Meant to be like "the fix is in"
But I also just noticed on the planet map page the little planets have symbols on them and drenthal has an aquila

>>55151421
>Ultrafags so bad they can barely inch out a win over a faction with half the playerbase and 1/10th the units

>>55151480
Used to have Chaos on it, so maybe they are changing it.

>>55151463
They didn't have any issue winning under their own power week 4.

>>55151416
Exciting isnt it?

>>55151489
Do you really believe the 4th week results weren't rigged?

I'm not even flinging shit at chaos or imperials, it's just incredibly unlikely that the numbers would suddenly swing so dramatically to give chaos a win after the first three weeks. More likely GW wanted to keep it a little more even in a narrative sense.

>>55151526
It wasn't that dramatic of a swing, the results slowly moved towards the center during the first three weeks and week four was pretty back and forth for a while.

>>55151526
Each week from 1-4 was less and less imperial sided, maybe all the people excited with their new dark imperium went home to play instead of playing in store.

>>55151541
You can report games played at home.

>>55151526
That's when the chaos codex was released though, right?

>>55151463
>Calling Xenos players NPC races when they were shit on even worse than chaos
>Not expecting them to shit all over you when they're given the chance
>Not expecting imperial players getting their shit together to prevent EoT chaos cheating all over again
You brought this upon yourselves

>>55151484
>Implying it wasn't rigged

>>55151484
that's like telling someone your cock isnt so big while they're fucking you in the ass

Who even cares about fucking Konor anymore

>>55151597
You might as well be bragging about how you made friends with your wrangler, senpai
It's all designed to happen your way

"It is the 3rd Millennium. For more than a hundred months Games Workshop has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Nottingham. It is the foremost of wargames by the will of the neckbeards, and master of a million tabletops by the might of their inexhaustible wallets. It is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with business strategies from the early Industrial Revolution Age. It is the Carrion Lord of the wargaming scene for whom a thousand veteran players are sacrificed every day, so that it may never truly die.

Yet even in its deathless state, GW continues its eternal vigilance. Mighty battleforce starter-sets cross the online-store-infested miasma of the internet, the only route between distant countries, their way lit by a draconian retail trade-agreement, the legal manifestation of the GW's will. Vast armies of lawyers give battle in GW's name on uncounted websites. Greatest amongst its soldiers are the Guardians of the IP, the Legal Team, bio-engineered super-assholes. Their comrades in arms are legion: the writing team and countless untested rulebooks, the ever vigilant redshirts, and the writers of White Dwarf, to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from other games, their own incompetence, Based Chinaman - and worse.

To support Games Workshop in such times is to spend untold billions. It is to support the cruelest and most corrupt company imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of sales discounts and Warhammer Fantasy Battle, for so much has been dropped, never to be re-published again. Forget the promise of cheaper digital content and caring about the fanbase, for in the GW HQ there is only profit-seeking, Space Marines and Sigmarines. There is no fun amongst the hobby shops, only an eternity of raging and spending, and the laughter of former employees who left GW to join better companies."

>>55151601
Only NPCs, as they think that they are "getting back" to Chaos for point out their own irrelevance, as seen with this NPC >>55151579

Every Chaos player knew that we have no chance to win popularity contest against Imperium. Fact that they struggle so much is actually pretty baffling.

>>55151636
I'm an Imperiumfag and I know Konor is rigged. GW wants to make a milquetoast 50/50 split and pull a "THE BATTLE RAGES ON" nonsense. I don't even care anymore about the stupid thing.

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>>55151625
just like burger king

I shall have you ass MY way

>>55151634
/wmhg/
>>55145455

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QUESTION
BIG CHOPPAS OR POWER KLAWS FOR MY NOBZ

>>55151695
Boss Nob PK, others Big Choppas.

>>55151695
Depends on your target.

>>55151695
WELL DO YOU LOIK KLAWS OR CHOPPAS MORE?

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>>55151706
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING

>>55151722
Nobs can't lift that job.
No orks can save perhaps lootas.
Stomp the weaker, swamp the stronger, klaw the tanks.

>people at my LGS still cling to 7th because "8ed is so washed down"

Time to look for a new LGS I guess.
Also, what can AdMech count for in the upcoming codex? Any news yet?

>>55151708
CHOPPAS AND KLAWS BOTH

>>55151792
AdMech aligned knights and 7 Forge World dogmas, but beyond that we know nothing.

>>55151792
>>55151803
There's a 2 CP stratagem that lets them immediately change Canticles mid-turn.

>>55151803
Hm. Sounds neat on paper if the knight prove worthy. Possible some style like the old 7th batallion list or some other?
I could play both editions and bully those 7th guys around a bit maybe...?

>>55151811
Hm. Nice.

So Drenthal was won by the imperium but they have declared it a Chaos victory? Poor GW actually showed that can't rig the system so they said fuck it we're going to say whatever the fuck we want to say.

Also I may be a slowpoke but what was the general thoughts on Necromunda and the new codexes announced?

All those retarded faggots claiming to know codex release dates eternally BTFO.

>>55151841
>but what was the general thoughts on Necromunda and the new codexes announced?
Pretty much what you said next.
>All those retarded faggots claiming to know codex release dates eternally BTFO.
I've been telling these fags Tyranids were coming this year for months now.

>>55151841
>All those retarded faggots claiming to know codex release dates eternally BTFO.

Tbh they all probably just wanted to get a rise out of some people and I can't help but feel like they succeeded a bit.

>>55151859
>I, uh I mean they, they were just pretending to be retarded
Ok.

So, my dude bros, convince me. Why should I build guys with Grenade Launchers when plasma is 2 points more? I kind of get the idea of turning one guy into D6 Lasgun shots with the option of a S6 but plasma is....well plasma. Are we expecting a price hike with Chapter Approved?

>>55151872
Because..
>Are we expecting a price hike with Chapter Approved?
Yep, you got it.

>>55151863
With the sheer volume of shitposting /40kg/ gets anymore are you honestly telling me that you think every single person giving exact dates that supposedly were leaked release dates were all being serious?

>>55150542
This looks fun

>>55151883
Fair enough. I guess 7 pt Plasma is too good to be true

>>55151895
Obviously they weren't given that they were all completely wrong. But they're still dumb faggots, and the retards who believed them and repeated those rumours are even dumber (looking at the fucking taufags).

>>55151899
Bluhd Revhens fucking yiss.

Would have preferred mentors though fyi

>>55150514

I really doubt Primaris will add much to deathwatch, honestly.

Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>55150542
rollan

>>55151908
Paint a marine and come back to us. That'll be a nice start.

>>55151910
More cost-effetive wounds to sit on stuff

>>55151929
Oh fuck off, that's such bullshit.

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>>55150753
You've got an easy to paint chapter. Here, have an example.

>>55151930

"Sit on stuff" is not a valid tactical role unless you have something that would be efficiently contributing whilst standing still anyhow.

>>55151938
The EU region isn't even visibly in favor of one side or the other.

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>>55151949

>>55151950
>"Sit on stuff" is not a valid tactical role
It is in a game that rewards you victory points for sitting on stuff

>>55151950
>He doesn't play objectives
lmao

>>55151950
Double tapping a unit full of plasma.

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>>55151966

>Cuts out the "Unless" that clarifies when it becomes okay to just sit on stuff

>>55151973

>Is also a retard

>>55151321
>tfw torn between this missile rack conversion looking super better than the official one, but being a stickler for "official" patterns

Not like I'd ever use the official launchers anyway.

>>55151993
And primaris marines are effective at sitting on objectives and shooting at things
So why bring it up in the first place, you colossal retard?

Anything Primaris can do, a squad of Guardsmen can do better. Fite me.

>>55151601
I like Konor.

But I went in at the beginning of it looking at it the same way I suspect GW is; just an excuse to play a bunch of games, paint up some new dudes and enjoy a few new scenarios, then get some fluff updates once a week. Thats all it is. Thats all it needs to be.

>>55151949

What's this backpack from

>>55152009
Primaris are surprisingly cheap in basic squads and have a 30" range. You can take two squads of 5 with stalker bolt rifles and snipe at elite troops.

>>55152003

>And primaris marines are effective at sitting on objectives and shooting at things

You're confusing capable of for effective at. Especially in a more elite army where you don't have points to waste on vaguely adequate wastes of everyone's time.

>>55151929
Told you all it was rigged, literally just a marketing campaign.

Konor confirmed rigged

>>55151930
>More cost-effetive wounds to sit on stuff
your meta does not include spam of lascannon/melta tier weaponry?

>>55152022
Yeah cus death watch are so much more effective as they are, right?

>>55152022
>building an all primaris army
>want to get command points
>have to use battalion detatchement
>use only 3 5-man units of intercessors, since I don't want to "waste points"
Hey, would you look at that. I have three small units capable of operating independantly of eachother, with decent longrange firepower, that have no disadvantage moving up the field/staying on objectives whatsoever. Man, that sure was hard.

>>55152014
I googled it and apparently it's from "Warhammer 40,000". Some kind of 28mm miniature game.

>>55152045
>chaos babbies so shit at the game GW literally has to make up rules on the fly to hand them wins
Holy shit, chaos BTFO

>>55152009
Survive s3 -2 shooting

>>55152020
How many sniper teams can you take for the same price at 32pts for 3 lasguns and 3 rifles. Checkmate Cawl

>>55152042
Even with it, they can roll a 1, and DW marines still cost more.

>>55152062
Infantry team takes two hotshot lasguns wounds. Intercessor team takes two hotshot lasguns wounds. Who has more effective combatants left? Thought soooooo

>>55152063
>guard are top tier
Wow, it's like bragging about having the best units as eldar in 7th.

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Welp, there goes the whole "Guard finally getting updated models" thing.

>>55152076
Intercessors will on average save one of those wounds so 5 intercessors vs 8 guardsmen... hmm...

>>55152022
Deathwatch veterans are a huge waste of points for sitting on objectives.
For 2 points more than a stock veteran, you can have a primaris with a stalker bolter that can pester units from across the board quite effectively.
Way more than a basic marine with a bolter, because you're not paying all the points for the ability to take options you aren't going to take.

>>55152076
>Guard players can't do basic math

And no one is surprised

>>55152090
Are those just gene stealer cults with regular people heads?

>>55150555
Termies
Deep striking a squad of Scarab Occult into Rapid Fire range and deleting whatever infantry your enemy has, is always hilarious.

>>55152052

You have three tax units capable of underperforming against their points in tacs, because you couldn't bear to take "manlet marines". Good job.

>>55152049

Of course Deathwatch aren't very optimal, that's exactly why breaking up your dedicated thing-killer squads theme to try to play objective squatter is suicidal.

Your only chance in an objective game is to alpha strike, then keep killing until you have the board control to hold ground.

>>55151929
Hahaha, fuck off GW.

They had to beg Xenos players to support Chaos and even then they still had to give them an arbitrary victory because reasons.

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No matter how I look at this it's Imperium controlled. But no, apparently it's Chaos controlled.

>>55152118
Well free company heads but yesh

>>55152090
What does a DIY Van Sar gang have to do with IG update?

>>55152097

>Deathwatch veterans are a huge waste of points for sitting on objectives.

Yes. That would be why you don't do that. If you absolutely need an objective camper take some variety of mortis dread, otherwise grab board control -then- worry about ground holding.

>For 2 points more than a stock veteran, you can have a primaris with a stalker bolter that can pester units from across the board quite effectively.

Replace "Quite effectively" with "Slightly". Nobody is scared of getting plinked at with 5 S4 AP -1 shots.

>>55152139
The victory map even shows a little Imperial Flag over the planet. Whelp, I guess they can't let their pet faction get BTFO, even over a no-name system.

>>55152063
>32pts for 3 lasguns and 3 rifles
play elysians
>21pts for 3 lasguns and 3 rifles + deep strike, BS3+ and take up a total of 3 slots in a transport
checkmate cadians

>>55152091
Yeah very good. 5 IS still less than 8!

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Eldar, Nid and IG codexes before the end of November.

From:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/

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>>55152139
ENHANCE

>>55151300
>GW actually thinks people will buy more Land Raiders with these new rules

Who in their right mind would buy an expensive kit that can only be used in open play?

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>>55152190
N-nani?!

>>55151957
I was going to point that out too, it actaully looks slightly favouring the imperium if not 50%

>>55152190
What is that even?
49.9% to 50.1%

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>>55150686
>nigh on as many games as 1k sons
>double their score

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>>55152190
how deep does this rabbit hole go?

>>55152211
Either way close enough that it really should come down to overall control percentage.

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>>55152154
GW stop doing global campaigns when you already have the story you wanted to tell pre-written.

Stop pretending your wacky-ass metaplots are actually on the players.

>>55152239
i rather think it's all about keeping the overall battle close until the last week. can't have it decided already in week 4 or 5. that would be bad for marketing.

>>55152107
Not him but you're an idiot. 8>4

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>>55152190
>>55152225
this is sorta lewd

>>55152258
>implying anyone plays chaos

>>55152239
Dude, everyone knew it was rigged from the start. Remember storm of chaos?

>>55152258
I seriously doubt they'd give Imperial players the same luxury when Chaos kind of seems to be GW's pet faction.

It is sort of shitty that the last five weeks didn't matter.

>>55152258
whatever, just give us some exodites to spank it to

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What is it???

>>55152278
How?

>>55152269
Yeah, no shit
I'm talking about needing 4 times the amount of shots to kill a single intercessor

8 guard, losing 4
Compared to 5 intercessors losing 1
Do the math, please, I'll wait.

>>55152239
It's just so sad and such a missed opportunity.

I was reading the vox chatter debrief and just thinking that they could have justified as in "we won the planet but it was doomed so we had to destroy it asap and we took a worse blow than actually having retreated on time so it's not a victory either"

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>>55152293
bare it all to us anon, everything

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>>55150581
Sisters of Battle master race!

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>>55152287
Gotta keep pushing Chaos. They WILL like Abaddon, god damn it!

Chaos is literally Roman Reigns and it is hilarious.

>>55152297
>8 guard, losing 4
Can you not read either? Did your toaster dad not install a LeForge Module? The scenario was taking TWO unsaved hotshot wounds. The fuck are you going on about with four Guardsmen lost?

>>55152299
yeah but they already had that fluff and the regimental standard piece written up and that wouldve gotten in the way

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>>55152290

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>>55152190

>>55152299
But that would make too much sense. Gotta have spooky chaos magic solve all of their problems.

>>55152297
I....you didn't even read did you? A TEN man guard team and a FIVE man Intercessor squad take TWO hotshot S3 -2 wounds and you come up with FOUR Guardsmen left?

What?

>>55152319
>I'll just ignore toughness, wounds, and armour saves all being way higher, and skip to them both taking 2 wounds, despite this not being reality

Man, you guardfags really just try to sound like morons, huh?

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I just now realize the lion head hint a few weeks back is just another Sigmar.

>>55152302
Is any extreme close-up sexual to you?

>>55152334
Probably the female Assassin.

>>55152320
The regimental standard is just blatant alpha legion propaganda for the next planet though. It's all a sad mess of things, the imperium will win the last planet anyway and then we will see how they justify that, considering that they just want to establish a chaos foothold in ultramar.

>>55152345
>implying it won't just be a draw or go into a seventh battlefield with a "totally unexpected" come from behind Chaos victory.

>>55152330
>FABRICATING facts other than presented in a scenario to sway probability your way
Oh I get it. Because your mom had 10watt bulb to bake you with.

The proposed scenario was surviving S3 ap-2. Even in the worst case of wounding both parties there's still more Guardsmen. How is this not fact. How are you arguing math?

Jesus fuck I can't wait till you're all biomass. My ride can't get here fast enough.

>>55152345
>considering that they just want to establish a chaos foothold in ultramar.
They will just end up giving them that in one of the chaos controlled world's anyway. Nothing we do makes a bit of difference to their intended narrative

>>55152140
>free company heads
Those are all SW heads, from the Wolf Guard terminator kit.

>>55152340
Whatever is fine, I dont really care about Sigmar. Atleast the next Primarch won't be just Lion now.

>>55150483
How many points is the army in the OP?

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>>55152339

>>55152363
So that is what they meant with forge the narrative

>>55150619

Dark Angels were originally the space monk warriors with native american vibes.

Dark Templars were originally the space crusaders

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>>55152309
Mfw Celestine runs away from NL leadership bomb

>>55152360
>20 S3 AP-2 shoots against ten man guard/five man marine squad
>6.65 dead guardsmen
>1 dead 1 wounded Primaris
>both squads are down to four units

IG WAACfags are dumb as always.

>>55152352
Yes, I meant that the actual numbers will show the last planet won by the imperium (as this one has) and then they will have to make a sorry ass excuse to have a tie breaker.

On the other hand, if Chaos managed to actually win the last planet, a tie breaker could be exciting, I think that something set in space battling and boarding actions / sabotage missions would be quite cool considering they've been focusing on the system planets. Alas, it will most probably not happen.

>>55152360
>Haha look my guardmen win in this senario I made up that throws out all the actual advantages of my opponent

Sure thing buddy
But in the actual game, a hotshot lasgun goes 0.30 wounds to an intercessor, and 0.66 to a guardsman
So you need 15 hotshot lasgun shots to wipe a guard squad
And 30 to wipe an intercessor squad

>>55150630
Star Phantoms

>>55152392
>Increasing volume of fire TEN TIMES OVER to prove yourself right.
The definition of bullying. You can't make this shit up folks. Chad's on Redemption Crusade

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>>55152372
Aight, have some porn

>>55152371
Abput 1250 is my guess.

>>55152400
I don't see much of an undead thing in blowing your enemy to kingdom come, and sometimes your allies along with.
Oh well, not like the Dark Angels never did that anyway.

Of course I see the idea behind your post. They are noted as very gloom and stuff.

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>>55152413
>blue board
Anon, you sicken me.

>>55152399
>Haha look my guardmen win in this senario I made up that throws out all the actual advantages of my opponent
You're doing the same thing you ass. This is why I play Chaos holy fuck

>>55152388
>implying NL will ever dent a SoB army
Chaosfags are so desperate that they try to out achieve the punching bag army

>>55152429
Literally how
Unless you are playing a version of 40k that ignores armour saves and toughness, then no, I'm not
I'm presenting it as it happens in the fucking game

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>>55152413

>>55152334
Literally first day joke responses to people saying it was Lion was dudes saying it's just Sigmarine shit.

>>55152435
> SoB are this delusional.
M8 your player base is an illusion.