The non-existent wargame, p.2

>>55148420
You met a real life scream wizard. Good on you.

>>55148456
>orbfags and screamfags shitposting
Can't wait desu

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Maps for the map God! I like this, the mountain are maybe a little funky sized though.

Also mountain fiefs should be a little large, maybe push the red river out a bit

Orbies are going to be the most obnoxious fucks after the new ed launches, don't bother playing one until they get nerfed in 5.5

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>>55148456
ORB WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD

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>>55148487
Go eat a bag of dicks, yagfurry

>>55148509
I'm not a cartographer, so I have no idea what I'm doing. I've barely worked on the east at all.

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>>55148482
Yeah he's a pretty nice guy if not a little... odd.
Explained he was "honoring his fallen" when the store owner came over.
We still play, mostly during the night, when no one is around.

Do you think I could successfully pull off a diverse beastman army? Not just fishmen, I mean fishmen, catmen, and minofellows. Obviously fishmen would be used to overwhelm, while catmen are hit and run and minofellows tank, but I think I'm still missing out on some heavy units to really shift the tides of battle. Are their any beastfolk heroes or vehicle units you guys recommend?

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>>55148509
Throw a few Yeezy cities in the green areas, and maybe change the color of the red area, since it's the contested lands.

Maybe blue areas could work as Golden Union cities, unless they're merged with the Alquire?

>>55148456
>>55148247
>>55148409
Want me to make a separate doc for the democratic rulebook? Or start with it as part of the planning doc?

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....and the other incantation.

>>55148594
Link it in the main document, but make it a separate document, I think. It's gotta be something that can't be changed without voting first.

Fluff question:
What do you guys think the High Orb is doing right now? We haven't heard anything about it since 2nd Edition. I can't remember which novel it was but it was mentioned off-handedly by Archscreamer Dan. Is it coming back into lore?

>>55148613
Alright, I'll make it.

What did that first edition book call the world back in '88?

>>55148620
I feel like the High Orb was more or less replaced by the Orb Prince. Orb Prince didn't become a big thing until 3rd or 4th edition, I think, and both serve the same general idea.

>Mysterious leader figure of the Orbs
>Can only be directly contacted by magic
>Working with the Darkheart.
>Probably gay.

I think the High Orb might come back but he'll be a servant of the prince.

>>55148585
DOGS
O
G
S

>>55148620
Probably just phased out to whatever dimension the orbs came from.

>>55148585
Gol, Watcher of the Beasts. He's not the best in combat, especially as a hero unit, but he helps with his passives. I'd run some Salvaged Mk. II Yeezy Drones to deal with aerial combat, but I wouldn't run more than eight.

>>55148620
I think it was just some mcguffin from that novel, probably the author just made it up on the spot. It probably got retconned into the Merkabah that Zarvus used to go to space.

>>55148456
Rulebook link, it's also linked in the main doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CL-M9Oqi09ZjgUkjrBhhwUzLAA688nTgYI8v1N8DEdg/edit?usp=sharing

Comment only mode but I'll open it up once we've got further with stuff.

Hey, do you think heavily modding WHFB is better than an outright new system? I think mashing it with 40k 8th could be a dandy old time

>>55148707
I like that Games Company went with mostly original stuff, like power cards and such.

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ART: broken giants meeting with a lord of the red river kingdoms

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>>55148589
minus hex grid, though you can see it on the shitty border between yeezy and neo-alquin

>>55148585
You're gonna need Ravensinger Gabriel Draconis in there somewhere. His counterspelling is OP as hell and GAME COMPANY doesn't look like they're addressing it anytime soon. Put in a few Birdsingers to synergize off of and you're golden.

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>You will never be seduced by a Black Witch
>She will never use all your resources to perform contacting rituals with Elysium
>She will never have sex with you in a ritual to get impregnated by a Dream Baby
Why
Even
Live?

>>55148697
Alright, I'm just going to open it up and sleep for a bit. Go crazy guys. Write down all your ideas, organize them, and we can vote on stuff tomorrow.

>>55148722
Oh fuck forgot about all that, yeah

>>55148737
Re-linking in case it changes when you make it edit open, dunno how that works.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CL-M9Oqi09ZjgUkjrBhhwUzLAA688nTgYI8v1N8DEdg/edit?usp=sharing

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>>55148724
RRK soldiers returning from war

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I gotta say i preferred the older lizardmen to the new stuff. What do you guys think? I feel like they made them way too bulky.

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Miniature of lord Kodick the Black, warsmith of the Yeezy Empire

theyre supposed to be advanced, should we do an Eastern Europe (like witcher type) thing, or more Asian?

>>55148822
Lizardfolk are already a small enough faction as is. Any change that gets people talking is a good one.

>>55148869
Techno mongols?

Look, I never believed GAME COMPANY was furry pandering before, beast folk have always been party of fantasy and all that, but some of the rumors about the next edition are freaking me out.

Apparently there's talks about custom "hybrid" figures where humans and beastmen, or beastmen with different species of beastmen, can now have hybrid kids with set rules for their mixed stats, with Zarvus' return being a lore excuse for it to mess with the world and allow that to happen. If this is true, it's going to cause the cringiest shit to start popping up.

>>55148924
I love it

WHEN IS GAME COMPANY GOING TO ALLOW FEMALE SCREAM WIZARDS?

THIS FUCKING SEXIST SHIT HAS TO END

>inb4 you have Black Witches already

ONE TOKEN FEMALE GROUP ISN'T ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR HOW MANY MALE MODELS THERE ARE IN THIS GAME

>>55148943
Write it in nigga.

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>>55148732
Because blood is a ritual component, and we wouldn't want to let it go to waist.

Also, posting Black Witch concept art.

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>>55149017

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>>55149017
>>55149031
>>55149046
Speaking of Black Witches, has anyone read this novel yet?

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>>55149046

>>55149065
I liked the premise when i heard it was coming out, and then i realized it was written by FUCKING JELLCAP.

Their work isn't awful but my god can't GAME COMPANY find a new author? They wrote Maldogan half decently but Gol was a bitch for no reason.

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Names are WiP until someone finalizes them
What are some locations?

>>55149120
Oh come on, Jellcap's done some good stuff. Remember that comic that's from the perspective a scream wizard's lungs? That was Jellcap.

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>>55149120
>>55149065
Yeah, they didn't portray Gol very well for someone who had contact with beings in Elysium. IDK I still think she had something happen with the Orb Prince but it's never fully explained.

Mals part was fine, it was more "boots' on the ground version of what they witches actually do in the table top.

>>55149148
This is sexy anon.
Where are the gilded isles though?

>>55149194
I have no idea where they should be. Just off the coast of Neo-Alquire?

>>55149148
A few made up locations I'm making up right now
>Powerlord factories
>Catman Dune
>The Blood Bridge
>Dreamhedge
>Pit of Whispers

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>>55149182
Maybe we'll get lucky and GC will put out something more to do with the intrigue they Mal and Gol were getting into with the Alquire Empire.
Gol has a weird dark angry version of Aegwynn from Warcraft feel, at least in my mind.
I also half expect her to throw Maldogan to the wolves in the next book. Which would be shitty considering Mal had the only real character advancement.

>>55148958
And they promised us plastic Black Witches like a decade ago

>>55149255
I guess, like a republic of venice kinda thing, maintaining sovereignty through commerce?

>>55148511
Cue the shitposting.

>>55148556
>here the screamwizard uses a device to see if his incessant yelling is indeed keeping even Zarvus awake

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>>55149120
Also Don't fuck with Lord De'monte.
Because "Come Mald, see what I do to those who betray my trust."
>Proceeds to flay a motherfucker while Gol keeps him from bleeding to death.

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I'm tired of people always grouping orb players as shitposters and meme spouters. Orbs have some of the best fluff in the game, not to mention being the basis of the game's mechanics before switching to power cards. They have the most creative freedom when it comes to their units and their tactics (not counting tricksters, maybe), and they are the faction with the most potential to change the slow dredge that lore's become with each edition just being the major three throwing locations between each other.

Orbs > Everyone Else

>>55149268
>Gate to Elysium
>Hole-in-the-World

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>>55149365
I mean they kind of asked for that shit when they decided to cut through the Silver Glade when Torian advised specifically not to since De'Monte is a well known psycho-bitch.

>>55149368
>Orbs > Everyone Else

Orbfags confirmed still shitposters.

>>55149368
>Orbs > Everyone Else
Ballboys not even trying

>>55149368
>tired of being associated with memeposters
>post a bunch of memes
You fucking orbies.

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>>55149433
>>55149453
>>55149456
You're just jealous we've got the best flying units.

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>>55149424
>Pic related

>>55149472
You have only flying units, you broken fucks.
Well, except those slimes, but they're so weak, spawned so many times per round, and use the teamwork rules so much that they might as well be attacks.

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>>55148961
>>55148924
One of the OrbCon promos got leaked. I have to wonder what other units are getting added, the Yeezytrooper looks pretty rad.

>>55149523
holy fuck, did you just bash out that render in the last couple hours?

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Elysian Astral Diver

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The Red River Kingdoms are slowly getting developed, but we still need lots more stuff, especially around the Disputed Lands.

>>55149541
no, I just used HeroForge, I would have artfagged it, but alas, i have the art skills of a preschooler.

>>55149551
see >>55149268
>>55149415

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Daily reminder that Trivon's vision for the Untied Red River Empire was the proper way to go.

>"The Red River is not just a name, but a promise, and until we can accept that our own blood must fill the river to return it to its true glory, than that promise is broken."

Nothing but truth.

>>55149551
Should the Yeezy Capital be Yeezareth?

>>55148509
How did you make this?

>>55149557
still fucking awesome

>>55149569
Trivon did nothing wrong.

>>55149569
Yeah but Space Paratroopers didn't exist when the Trivon novels were written. So it's all well and good to talk about sacrifice, but when a bunch of heavily armored fanatics fall from the sky and start kidnapping orphans because one of them might be their messiah reborn, you'd change your tune.

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>>55149602
I'll probably throw a few others together tomorrow. pic unrelated

>>55149551
I love how Frankcock has his own city.
Is it populated with his Death Clones? (and what's the fluff on those?)

>>55149618
Hey, the Space Paratroopers only did that twice, they're not THAT crazy.

>>55149618
SP players need to accept.
Zarvus isn't coming back

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What do you guys think of the leaked Yeezian Shockrider? Sure they've used crazy crossbows for the longest time but what do you think about them having straight up fire arms? It almost feels too much like Warhammer Dwarves.

>>55149678
Lester does as he fucking pleases.

>>55148456
Whoa, whoa, guys did you hear? They're adding a new subfaction. But the fucking TWEEST is that they can be used by ANY faction except the Orbs.

The only hint so far we've gotten is this line from the Blog Post.

A web of corruption is being spread across the land. A corruption in the hearts of men and beasts, feeding off of the lust for power and wealth.

The black market is open for business.

>>55149691
I dunno, where's the furry hats their cav usually has?

>>55149691
With where the lore is going, I think it's a good change. Things are going to get intense when Zarvus finally returns, and having higher tech to match up with the boosts that magic is going to bring only makes sense.

>>55149714
Right? I'm hoping they don't take them away and the leak is just unfinished. Yeez Cav has had their Uldi hats since 1st edition

>>55149688
When Zarvus comes back and they actually have a March From the Stars campaign event you'll know Game's Company is out of ideas, about to go bankrupt, or both.

>>55149739
Its all an excuse to sell more Foundry Hold models.

>>55149755
£95 per Forgefather and it needs a minimum of 3 Forgelings at £35 a pop? Fuck this company.

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>>55149735
My nigga

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>>55149702
I'm excited.

>>55148589
>rivers running into a mountain range
sorry mate, that's awful

-t. /v/isitor

>>55149688
The best that's going to happen is a message from space "hey guys, like the work. Hope you found my mom, if you haven't, just remember: I'm named after her. Come join me, I found a nice vacation planet." or something like that.

Remember, one of the devs that created the SP left for a while to work on a space RPG, and one of the best armies is lead by a guy named... Guess what? Zarvus. And he sends a message with that effective content to a force that he hopes isn't too lost - he wanted them to find his mother.
I heard she got hired back a few months ago....

>>55148456
These kinds of threads are more fun the more vague they are. Please don't hurt the thread by trying to turn it into something real.

Did anyone see the latest issue of Green Genie? The Arquebusiers on page 14 look real good. I think the one in the back row with the glasses looks exactly like my friend. Like exactly.

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Anyone else think the female butcher minofellow's pose is a bit too silly?

>>55149551
I fucking love how the Unnatural Mountains in the Unheld Lands look on the map - it's almost like the sheer sided cliffs in the fluff.

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>>55149860
It's a work in progress ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>55149832
Apparently their abilities include bribing enemy units to not fire on them for a turn, using drugs and other substances for quick combat boosts, and acting out of turn.

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BRING BACK BIRD WHISPERERS

>>55149911
You think they're going to be human or beastfolk?

Or fucking Orb rebels like the Tricksters and that's why Orbs can't use them

>>55149884
>buying print media

Nigga pls.

Also post your friend.

>>55149930
Rumor is they're mixed between various races that aren't Orbs

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>>55149936
Here's a photo of my friend.

>>55149916
GAME COMPANY really did a number on the Avians lore when they had them all run and just hide away at High Nest while the rest of Yagmon fights the war they helped start.

/sp/ here. You nerds should get outside and play Scoreball instead of this garbage game.

>>55149975
I bet you'd play Orbs.

>>55149975
We have GAME COMPANY's BloodScore instead. It's a whole lot better, you should give it a try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6yJ5WaRsaE

I feel really bad about what they winded up doing with the old Orby models.

>>55149983
I'm so glad that BloodScore is being supported again.

>>55149916
Birds as a race just doesn't work any more since Magi-seeds got removed as a mechanic in fourth. Seed Tokens were a shit substitute, and I am okay with with Bird Whisperers being absent until Game Company figures out how to make every faction work with Seeds.

>>55150007
I hear they're gonna be making a BloodScore video game soon. Fishmen and Orbs are already confirmed teams.

>>55149975
https://www.reddit.com/r/scoreball/
It's real.

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>>55150020
Yeah, the mechanic kind of needed to go, but still gonna be super sad that the Avians aren't in the new edition. Return to High Nest when.

Stupid bird council helped start the war the Yagmon are fighting and now they aren't even helping.

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>>55149893
Here's some helpful links friendo

https://mythcreants.com/blog/crafting-plausible-maps/

https://mythcreants.com/blog/how-to-color-your-map-using-science/

https://www.cartographersguild.com

https://watabou.itch.io/medieval-fantasy-city-generator

https://jsfiddle.net/Azgaar/fuz7h4cg/

Using these I've slowly pieced together this map over the past few months.

>>55150042
Don't listen to him. Fuck a plausible map. Can we have a massive roving herd of undead bison in the disputed land called the Eternal Stampede or the Herd of the Damned or something stupid like that?

>>55150089
hell yeah.
>>55150042
I did call them the Unnatural Mountains.
So mapfag can do his thing. It's magic, and it will fuck the ecology. At some point.

I'm running a RPG campaign set in the Red River Kingdoms 100 years before Zarvus was born.

What classes would exist and not exist at that time? I know Scream Wizards were founded the previous decade, and Orb Priests aren't available because Kudduck is still in exile.

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>>55150042
Anon, I gotta say I have no idea about anything I'm doing but I know that if I want to make the map realistic I'm gonna have to scrap everything and start over. It's also based off >>55148159, on the basis that whatever gets posted first is canon

Proper cartography's always been really interesting to me though, and your map does look nice.

Lorefags, I need your help.

Is Trivion dead, missing, or somewhere in the Dreamscape? I know his plan was foiled in the final book but it's never made clear whether that ritual destroyed him or just poofed him into another dimension, and if Zarvus does make a comeback, I have to believe that Trivion will too. Those two would be perfect enemies!

>>55150153
>Trivion
Trivon.

>>55150153
Then he exists in the same state as Zarvus: bumming around the galaxy, having grand adventures.
So, effectively, another dimension.

>>55150153
>>55150169
Trivon is confirmed in the dreamscape as of the latest lore. He's mustering an army of Terwyllygyrz for unknown purpose.

Source: Green Genie, February 2017, short story "Step One Two":

>>55150129
Black Witches would be around, alongside surviving fishmen and catfolk. Early age Noise Boys could also be there too.

What's your overarching storyline going to be?

>>55150187
Green Genie is only potentially canonical, not actual canon - they use it to test story ideas on us, and they stopped carrying that warning in 2002.

>>55150191
I'm introducing new players to the setting, so the party is going to be part of the the Great Orb Hunt travelling with the Ballsquasher Warband. Planning on having Rugman, the leader, get possessed midway through and have the players take over hunting the remaining Orbs.

>>55150225
>Orbhunting
Make sure to post results when you can, it'll drive ball boys crazy.

>>55150225
Independent Squad rules from the Adventurer splat, or a hack of some RPG?
Actually, why don't we hack Adventurer rules to support roleplaying? Is it because of the tourney ban?

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>"Lester, don't you get cocky!"
>"He won't...he'll get Frankckocky."
The dialogue in this fucking book is the cheesiest shit ever and it hardly fits with the current tone of the setting and I love it.

>>55150285
The adventurer splat rules, yeah, slightly modified for extended play (extra Power Cards for players, for example, and automatically winning Literacy tests).

>>55150252
You got it. Game starts in 2 weeks. I'll tell you about it at the next general.

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"Once a regular herd of steppe bison, the dark creatures now making up the Eternal Stampede were caught in Ithia during the Orb invasion. They've since been twisted into a monstrous force, a stampede eternally looping over itself that slowly travels the disputed lands, destroying anything in it's path."

this is probably my last map for tonight, don't let the unnamed game die until I get back

>>55150304
Francock fluff is best fluff.

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>>55150304
The real question is how has this setting managed to churn out so much OC in two threads? A 15 page, 4000 word setting manual,a map of the world, models of the units, and now a fucking book cover for an entire media franchise that doesn't fucking exist

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>>55150409
Everyone loves the 'Cock.

Are Broken Giants viable, weak, or broken?

I've heard their beefy units are a lot of fun but as a faction they've got a lot of problems.

>>55150422
When /tg/ sets their mind to something, they get to work. Just check out what they did las time they got into a setting with those Black Sun documents.

>>55150422
It's low effort. Personally, I'm pretty worried about how much is being documented. The fun of these kinds of threads is keeping things as vague as possible.

>>55150450
As long as no one tries to argue about the lore and just accepts that this is not a setting, but rather a made up fictional game with a made up setting in it, I think the document doesn't do any harm. Anything that goes against something else can be propped up to literal plotholes in the game's writing.

So why have the GAME COMPANY removed almost all stuff about the sunken temple of stars and diamonds? It was such vocal point on the early coming of the orbs storyline, combined stellar observatory/diamond mine who first spotted those celestial wierds before they fell on the world. It was so cool but then edition after edition they shrunk any details about it and now it's barely a footnote in the big book.

>>55150465
It's pretty hard to take it seriously when one of the major factions is an army of techno-barbarians led by kanye west

>>55150466
Orb fans are more into the Orbs themselves than how the Orbs were found. It makes them more MYSTERIOUS and SPOOKY.

>>55150466
Legal issues. Yes I am serious. There was a contract snafu with one of GAME COMPANY's writers, Snord Culverin, and the entire Stars and Diamonds quadrilogy became his property. GAME COMPANY quietly phased out the mentions so they wouldn't have to pay him royalties.

>>55150450
It's our burning desire to get a handle on everything. Or Autism - in an era of system mastery and lore fights, documentation is important
>>55150445
Or the last time I participated in a thread like this, which created an unholy abomination of fractional editions and numerous retcons, with three properties and a comic line
>>55150304
The sheer number of sex jokes that they hid in children's songs was great. I haven't seen anything that innocent perverted that much since I saw an analysis of what the average web filter qualifies as porn.
Said analysis also qualified as porn, since a word in it contained the word "anal".

>>55150489
I heard Culverin is trying to start up his own setting based around Stars and Diamonds, only he's gonna replace the Orbs with triangles or something that doesn't make a lick of sense.

>>55150489
And here I was hoping they would someday release the shining descent campaign to retake the temple.

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>>55150509
>Get super into the game during 3rd edition but quit due to the sheer cost of the game.
>Finally decide to look into it again.
>They got rid of orb magic and replaced it with power cards.

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH ALL OF THESE?

>>55150552
Play marbles, duh.

>>55150508
The setting should be dictated by what's popular, what people remember and repeat. Other than some really high level stuff like Yagmon vs Red River and Orbs, it shouldn't be written down. That breaks the Kayfabe. Let it live as tribal knowledge.

>>55150509
>>55150540
Shit, man. I gotta find my old Stars and Diamonds shirt that I won at Gen Con. You're making me nostalgic.

>>55150577
nigga our autism requires shit being written down and organized

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Leaked model for the new Powerlord Devastator. Personally I think the gun is a little too directly sci-fi but I guess since Powerlords are a pretty high-tech faction it makes some sense why they'd have one. Devastators have always been a nice counter to zerg rushing enemies so maybe this is GAME COMPANY's way of balancing out the current meta a bit.

>>55150589
agreed, we should try for a basic level of consistency, luckily since we established that NEWG(Non-Existent War Game) has had multiple editions we don't have to be slavish about it either, inconsistencies that aren't too blatant can be chalked down to differences between editions and authors

also on another topic, how does everyone picture the setting, personally I'm kinda imagining it having an overall Central Asian vibe(with some Eastern European influences as well), but also with the occasional bit of Science-Fantasy weirdness of the Jack Kirby vein showing up such as with the Space Paratroopers, the Yeezians, Orbs,
and Power Lords(kinda like how Warhammer Fantasy during the late 80's and early 90's had the occasional random sci-fi bit from 40k show up in the background)

>>55150718
You can tell the creators drew upon some sort of silver age comic book vibe with some kung fu and cold war space race mixed in.
Watch when Zarvus returns they will probably make 6th edition go all Anime.

>>55150424
But he's so broken. I don't even really need Adventurer to pull of the most broken Lester combo
>SP army
>1 Lester
>SP medics, 2 squads
>Dragoons, 2+squads
>SP Troopers, 2+squads
>2 or more Drop Bunkers
>Attachment Point equipment Power Cards
and Lester and Dragoons can be bought as Mercs.
Now, every SP model has the "Heart Kick" ability, which can be used once per game per model (not unit, model) to bring back a dead unit at half wounds. Lester has his Death Clone ability, which activates upon his death to create a new Lester at half wounds. And Lester's corpse counts as its own unit, which is why every Lester model comes with corpse tokens.
Start game with Lester as part of the initial drop that SP starts with, in formation with the Medics. This kills Lester immediately and activates Death Clone (who is still in formation), but a medic in formation gets an immediate action when wounds are received. Activate Heart Kick on one medic for the corpse, while medics two and three perform full heals on both. Medics regain Heart Kick when you burn three PCs or on a 8+ (which Lester aids at +2 for each instance of him on the field - confirmed in errata), so spend the first couple of rounds digging in while using the Feeding Frenzy ability of the Dragoons on Lester to generate corpses that trigger Heart Kick and healing. Keep activating the Attachment Points equipment cards on your regular army while building up Lesters. Finally, attach 5 Lesters to each SP Trooper using Attachment Points.
See where I'm going with this? Dragoons have the Catapult Tail ability, which can use other units as ammo. Once in the sky, each Trooper can use their Death From Above and auto-kill most units on landing, with knockback. Deploy Lesters - 5 per Trooper model, and you can launch a full ten man squad per squad of Dragoons. Use the Bunkers to defend your position while building up the Lesters, and you'll wreck anything with his attacks. 1 is bad enough, but 50 at a time?

>>55150718
They way I see it, GAME COMPANY's clearly aiming for each major faction to appeal to a different genre.

>Red River Kingdoms for the weebs who like the more Asian vibes.
>Neo-Alquire for normies and european fantasy fans.
>Yagmon Coalition for Conan/Savage World types
>Mountain Fiefs for grimdark
>Orbs for lovecraft nerds

Sprinkle the sci-fi stuff between everyone and its' a big mash of everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab5Rd_WYnlg

>Scream_Wizards

>>55150767
Wasn't the Death Clone thing an injoke in 1st edition?
the fuck were they thinking

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Why do people assume the Scream Wizards suck in melee?

>>55151015
Because they do?

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I was able to snag a Trickster model for Diddlestar Flowmo Kintasnap James at a convention for a steal, and I'm reading up on his rules.

How exactly does "Wish" work? It says you can "ask for any one thing past enemy lines, and the enemy player must give it to you" but not much else. Does this mean a unit? A control point? A power card? What are the limits of this skill? It destroys Diddlestar after you use it but is this a broken ability broken if I just ask someone to hand over their strongest unit?

>>55151015
Because they do. Even with archon builds you have to use way more power cards to do what other armies does without power cards.

>>55151057
>Using the Adventurer splatbook
Bringing one of those to a convention can literally get you thrown out. I don't know who the hell sold it to you.

>>55150955
1e didn't have resurrections, and it doesn't look like they're going to try and fix it - they can't, since by lore and rules Ressurections work on Lester (which is why Black Witches can field a lesser version of this).
Now, most people try to stop this by designating maximum points for a list, but there's a way around - the only SP units you need is a Quartermaster and the two Bunkers. Other units are Lester (of course), Dragoons, and Mountaineers, all of which can be Mercs. Power Cards still include Attachment Points.
Use the Quartermaster's pregame ability to designate the army as a Heavy Assault Force, which lets you double-class one unit as Medics. Use that on your dragoons, and designate all units except the Bunkers as Auxiliaries, which means they fly in instead of pulling a Drop. Use his equipment choice for Recall Beacons, and use those on the Mountaineers. Initial setup has Lester in formation with the Dragoon/Medics. Feeding Frenzy can be activated before battle, which triggers Death Clone, Heart Kick, and healing, so you land with two Lesters, who then add a +4 to the roll for restocking Heart Kick (which is now at 10+). Immediate deployment should start with Feeding Frenzy on both Lesters, which triggers another round of Death Clone, Heart Kick, and Healing.
Now, I just reread the rules, and the Medics Heart Kick can be triggered alongside Healing, meaning you can get 10 Lesters per round.
Mountaineers don't have Death From Above - they have something almost as good: they transfer falling damage onto whatever they hit with Tuck Roll and Kick, which adds to the base damage from Catapult Tail, and they get a free attack. Units released from Attachment Points get an attack, since movement was taken up with disengaging. Aim for the biggest thing your opponent has. Drop off the Lesters and activate Recall Beacons to get the Mountaineers back for another load.

>>55151181
Feeding Frenzy is a free action, as is the reactions Medics get. Keep 10 Lesters in formation with the Dragoon/Medics, and you can keep churning out reinforcements.

Power cards such a fantastic game mechanic, how come no one's tried to steal the gimmick from GAME COMPANY yet?

>>55151090
Conventions do it now too? I thought it was just tourneys.
Say, does anyone know they did that? I know GAME COMPANY still prints and sells them on their website, so why the hate?
Is there more cheese in there than the just the Rogues rules? Which, to be fair, allows the ultimate broken squads, even if using them caps your entire force at 25 units.

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Surely the thread title defeats the entire purpose of the thread?

On a side note I miss Science: The Hypothesis.

>>55151181
>>55151187
As a side note, Catapult Tail adds range to the Trooper's Strike Jump, in case you didn't see that ruling in Mercenaries. This lets you cover most of the average battlefield.

I gotta confess guys, I was going to find one last orb to shitpost with, but I wound up finding pro-flat earth memes, and now the desire to shitpost has been replaced with concern.

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>>55149065
It didn't have Rigalaete, so I didn't bother. Jewell wrote the best damn fluff for the Black Witches.

I don't care that it doesn't make sense for her to be in a suit like this, but Rigalaete in this outfit (and that was/is her model) just hits my magical realm. Cheesecake all you want, I'll take her and the rest, because cheesecake. It's like Kingdom Death with their art
I just want them to update the summoning rules to this edition, because she was a beast.

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>>55151714
Seriously, Succubi could wreck entire units with the right buffs, and her passive was resisting the debuff they took for a buff. Fucking triple summon and buff succubi at the start with her, then use Alisaette with a Ritual Circle and 3 Chanters to max summon orbs to burn on sorcery buffs for those gals. Add Lilianna for her double Imp summon, and grab Elize equipped with The Tome of Dead Knowledge to cycle your deck and keep a Skeleton Squad on hand. Even if you don't build that right you could still be self-sustaining in terms of keeping the summons refreshed. Build it good, and you had rounds where the cards lined up with orb charges and you could spot summon 4-5 Exploding Imps anywhere on the map.
But that was third edition, and they haven't let us see an actual update to the summon rules since. Now you only get the one before battle, instead of resource juggling to keep a house of cards going.

NEW RED RIVER UNITS ANNOUNCED AT ORBCON
>statue of the FE: on a fuck huge chariot,for the cost of a power card all red river units who fail a morale test near it may reroll that tecardwith an unspecified modifier for the rest of the turn
>ancestral elites
>like normal elites but they wear the enchanted skulls of their ancestors(all the surviving soldiers who served under FE durong the beast men wars were apparently named lords for their service) way better than normal elites but have less armor
Seems like the yeezus missionarys lost and RR is going full MUH ANCESTORS

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>>55148958
You know that there are female Minofellows right? They haven't been retconned out yet

>>55152236
Btw pic related best Bullboi prove me wrong

>>55149702
Holy shit, Black Mercs when?

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Please guys tell me this is fake.
Tell me they are not going to make Taura fanservice.
She was the best of the Bullbois, Devastating Assault was so broken.

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>show up to lgs with RR army
>ready to play my new list against the local orbfag
>get all my models on the table, I'm running a scream wizard core to my army
>mfw I left half my power cards at home

Fucking giggling ballboy won't let me live it down

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Who is best witch and why is it Nelleste?

Mobile drone factory for the space paratroopers is crazy good against the fishmen and other unit spamming armies. Only downside is that if it gets destroyed, it takes out half your VP.

>>55155078
Been meaning to ask, how do you take down one of those fucking things? It's bullshit it regains a drone on a roll of 4 or higher. I'm running screaming wizards FYI.

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>>55155263
Get more power cards wizfag

>>55155286
I've tried that and it still hasn't worked since currently the current drone factory essentially has all the plus side of being a quartermaster with the added ability to endlessly poop out drones till you want to kill yourself. Paratroopers need a Nerf.

>>55155335
Am I the only one that actually remembers to do the Control Overload rolls with the Factory? Because that might be your problem - cheating players.
But it could just be that your swarm is made up of really weak units if the drones are pulling the objectives from you that fast.

>>55151913
I think Games Company is hesitant to update the summoning rules because of the skill cap that's involved (deck management).
Anyone worth their salt that plays Black Witches could (in the current edition) resource juggle their deck and have a gaggle of support summons to reinforce their standing Alquire army.
The amount of tarpitting that would occur would be disgusting.
Of course you'd have to take out a bunch of your end game power ritual cards like Blood Sacrifice, Black Moon and Hex of Damnation or else you'd get stuck with a hand you can't cycle proper.
Which would be a fine balance in my mind.
Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll drop a summoner supplement. (I'd like to use the gaggle of skeleton and imps I've acquired over the years for a change)
Until then I'm going to continue to run sorcery buffs and end game rituals for synergy with my Alquire fuckers.

>>55155431
I think they buffed the mobile drone factory since they upped the amount of die needed for a control overload to happen, not to mention that having an engineer on board will also add two more die if a control overload does happen.

>>55152005
>Orbcon
You know with power cards being the new thing you'd think they'd change the name of the convention.

How do I use Turnt Herbburner's counterspell?

>>55154256
>Nelleste
>Not Rigalaete
Come on man.

>>55155564
Unless they changed Tome of Dead Knowledge to not shuffle your graveyard back into your deck, that's not an issue if you use the Chanters' Mana Surge ability, which cycles any hand. You'll get them back.
I don't mind having Alquire in my BW army, but I miss my summons core.
>>55155641
lemme see... drone creation 4+ on 1d, you cap two drones a squad, with 1 drone per hero or leader, Bunkers and other bigs get 4, excess is 6+ on 2d to keep in reserve, 8+ to add to Overwatch, 10+ to add to a unit that is already at drone cap.
And Engineer adds 2d to the entire roll?
Damn, that is swarm.

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>>55155894
Yeah, you could run mana surge, but you lose half of your casting phase using it.
It would be more cost effective to just run one endgame powercard in place of it and let the other card slots be value summons.
>Tome of Dead not shuffling your graveyard into your deck
I'd rather take the shitty component casting requirements for rituals from 2E over losing the core purpose Tome.

A friend of mine just got the Burning Tower scenario rules and he wants me to play it with him. It's pretty basic stuff, his army has to get to and destroy a tower in the center of the map, I need to defend it and either wait out a number of turns for "reinforcements" or find ways to decrease the timer with victory conditions. What are some good armies that would work good for a defensive scenario like this?

>>55156134
Mountain fiefs if you can plan hard enough
If not RR elite armies soth some inperial overseers and frankcock death clones will do just fine

>>55156691
Where in the world am I supposed to find a Frankcock? Last time I checked all the scalpers got the rereleases and jacked up the prize to crazy degrees. I might be able to borrow a Mountain fief army from a friend but I don't really know them well.

>>55155673
Realknigga Krippkilla can buff the effects of it pretty well.

>>55156134
As >>55156691 said, Mountain Fiefs. As he said, it takes planning. Mountaineers are your main unit, with some Ram Knights for a mobile force, a few Masons to create defensive terrain, some Crossbow Hunters, and maybe a hero or leader - it's a great scenario to figure out which one has buffs that fit your tactics. Take lots of Scout Wings, or Leaping Boots in your deck, Boots preferred.
Burning Towers defender gets a free turn at start of game, and Masons can drop a fortification in the pre-game deployment, so you start with two turns of terrain control. Moutaineers have a climb speed that out speeds the stairs rules for the tower, and the height from being at the top allows them to jump and use Tuck Roll and Kick. Equip them with the Boots to get extra height or range, and then make a quick getaway up the cliffs or over your fortifications. Scout wing allows the range increase, but doesn't allow the same getaway speed - but the climb is still great. You just need to keep plenty on hand to refresh their limited uses.
The tower also buffs the range on the Crossbow Snipers, as expected from anything with a height advantage, and the Ram Knights get Leaping Charge, which means they ignore any terrain change under 5 height when making their movement.
Deploy the Crossbow Snipers on top of the Tower and keep harassing the opponent with ranged attacks, keep dropping fortifications to make impassable walls with your Masons, Ram Knights for Hit and Run, and keep cycling your Mountaineers in and out of combat and using Tuck Roll and Kick to send the falling damage to your opponent's army.
Mountain Fiefs also makes one of the best offense armies for this scenario, so be careful. If he uses Dragoons to launch his Mountaineers, keep the Crossbow Snipers in Overwatch to thin their ranks and sacrifice a few squads of your Mountaineers to wipe the Dragoons. The Masons will be partially useless, but the fortifications can still slow him down.

>>55157294
Mountaib fiefs aren't veru popular with new players
I would expect him to go with
A. RRK
B. Scream wizards
C. Fishmen

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I've been a pure Fishman player for too long. Swarming is great but I feel cheap now since everyone knows that's the current meta, and soon enough Game Company's going to balance it out. I'm hoping I can start to incorporate my fishboys into some other armies, but I still want them to tournie friendly. Am I stuck just doing Yagmon collectives or are there some good alternative groups I could fit my fish into?

And is there a way to have orbs and fishmen fighting alongside each other?

>>55157294
This is some great advice, thanks! I think I will go with the Mountain Fiefs for this one. These threads really are the best thing on /tg/.

>>55157695
No
Just buy some catmen nigga

>>55157761
No problem, I helped playtest it before it even got submitted to the devs.
My bit of helpfulness? Keeping the tower as a separate hex tile (deluxe version has the tower as an actual tower, not just a graphic on a hex tile), so you could drop it into what ever map or scenario pack you want.
Hell, grab one of the chessex hex-grid battle mats, or even a pack of the wet-erase battle tiles if you don't want to draw the tiles over and over again (and the 35mm minis are a bit awkward on a hex grid sized for 28mm), then drop random terrain features in different environments so you really see what army is good at defense.

>>55157920
I don't know what my friend's army is going to be for this scenario (he wants us both to be surprised and need to prepare for whatever happens), but do you know any offensive armies I should watch out for for this? Maybe think of some specific counters I should remember?

So I did a 'Dogs of War' hack for WHF&WHFRPG years ago that would actually work perfectly for this game. It's a hybrid minis war game and ttrpg. Would anyone be interested in my writing up rules for things?

>>55157695
By current rules, you could fit them everywhere.
In practice they work well either alone or in Yagmon, period.
Catmen like >>55157830 said would be a better choice, also they don't get played often so you have surprise on your side.

Them having Nightvision would make them strong if played with Cloud of Darkness or Black Moon, but you need either BW or NAE cards. Also they get Climbing, so there's actually a build with the Yeezy Walking Fortress that's stupid af but could work.

>>55157960
Be warry of fish men and alquire

>>55157969
If you want, sure.

>>55157969
Yes please. I hope you found a way to make the power cards work, that shit always breaks attempts at RPG versions of the game.

Are there any good books or comics that explore the newer Yeezy fluff? Everything about them getting their tech from the Orbs and the Tricksters is really interesting but I can only find older books where the canon is kinda shaky with the current retcons and all that.

>>55158033
>>55158022
I'll describe how it was originally. The original hack used Warhammer Fantasy as a base.

Essentially every Player would have a unit that they themselves own. This unit would generally be from 5-10 pieces. This unit would be defined by a "Standard Job" which every member of the unit has as a base for their stats, and "Promotions". Promotions came in a variety of flavors, including making someone a bannerman, musician, or leader of the unit. However it also gave specializations like physician, scout, woodsman, accountant, and more. Each individual piece contributed towards a unit's stats. A big part of the game was making sure your army was supplied, they had work, your pieces were outfitted, morale was high, etc.

These indivudal pieces each could be controlled and their specalizations made use of out of combat. Therefore you essentially have several characters each with their own thing.

Now the players together came to form an Army. An Army has both the units of the player's, but also Army Resources. These were often in the form of siege engines, monstrous creatures, and other strange units.

When participating in engagements both the Army and the Units earn XP. These are used to purchase those jobs I talked about earlier. For armies it is used to purchase tactics and clout. The army sheet has such things on it like Army Relations with various factions, your current contract holder, army resources (like the siege engines), etc.

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>The Water Monster is right, Catman. They are among us.
What did he mean by this?

>>55158115
Now for some differences for this game.

Now with power cards I can imagine each player having a Power Deck and an entire army having it's own Power Deck defined by army resources. Power Cards would be added to your player deck dependent unit upgrades, a physician would have a related power card. Base units would add a number of power cards to pad out your deck. When you break into individuals each character would have their associated power card or cards.

The only unit type I can envision having more than one card to themselves would be more powerful mages. Most mages wouldn't even have a spell power card for themselves, but instead multiple mages share a spell power card they add to your deck along with their individual normal power cards.

Originally how unit acquisition worked for races was that it was fairly strict by army faction, but with minor factions being a thing having mixed units/armies seems appropriate. Especially if you have them simply costed differently.

(2/2)

>>55157960
>Offensive armies
Mountain Fiefs can do great offense on the vanilla scenario pack, Space Paratroopers can pull some great stunts (delayed deployment for everyone but a Scout Trooper with a Pod Beacon. There's enough terrain to make your Crossbow Snipers almost worthless against him and he can outrun just about anything the Mountain Fiefs has. Just keep Overwatch and pull an Aim buff on them for when the Drop starts), and... I think Night Clan, if he remembers to use the Stealth rules.
Just keep the Masons working, maybe supplement with a Trapmaster or two. A Fire Priest for healing is a great idea, and with the Blessed Weapon buff he brings, you can swap weapon damage for any sorcery or ability - including his own healing, so keep him in formation with the Crossbow Snipers to heal your units at range.
Keep Overwatch if he brings out any fliers or Dragoons, and choose your leader carefully - I suggest Baron De'Loriel for his Moving Bunker ability - you get fortification bonuses if you move at max speed in your turn, or double them if you take the Hunker Down action in the movement phase.
Other than that, the list I gave you can counter just about everything with the basic abilities in the vanilla scenario.

>>55158134
Would mobile drone factories be acceptable has well, since I recently bought one and wanted to get more use out of it.

>Ghost of Catman I too powerful and will never have a mini.
Making a mini of him in the fall, and it's supernerfed
Some days I wonder if GAME COMPANY knows what they are doing

>>55158178
They're okay on this map, especially with Engineers, but a few Trapmasters with the Jumping Jackies advancement and Crossbow Snipers in Overwatch can wipe or full-on pin down a drone force. Plus the thing has lousy wounds, and the armor can be overcome by the sheer damage output a Mountaineer can pull with Tuck Roll and Kick - remember, that hits their target with the falling damage, and gives a free attack, which can be taken before landing - and since they have the Flying tag before landing, they can melee the drones.

>>55158246
Looks like Catman I is getting NEUTERED

>>55149601
A program called Inkarnate. I don't use it personally, but it has its uses.

where my mammoth riders at?

>>55158121
>be catman
>go to see emperor
>get stab for no reason
>die
>come back as a ghost
>do nothing

>>55158478
>tfw Fishmen keep swarming my mammoths and killing them
>tfw your Mammoth Rider isn't strong enough to fend off crowd and gets a debuff for losing the mammoth
It hurts.

Paratroopers or Powerlords, /tg/? Which one is better?

>>55158601
Are mammoths Broken Giants units?

>>55158876
Depends on playstyle, Paratroopers have some cool interactions with environmental effects. Power Lords are more straight up. Similar flavour though.

>>55158128
feel free to put stuff in the rulebook

>>55159360
Dondrek Legion actually, but they can be played with Broken Giant units.

>>55159573
Oh right because Dondrek got merc'd

>>55159573
You can only play Mammoth Riders with Broken Giants if you're fielding Smoke-in-Chains or Hunts-at-Dusk. I'd recommend SiC because of better synergy.

>>55159593
They're a fun faction. Surprisingly interesting lore too if you go looking for it. Though they are still just the bandits of the setting.

>>55160375
Huh, really? What's the difference between those two?

>Mountain home is somehow a more developed city than any neo alquire city
Fucking
How

>>55160578
As soon as the new book for the Golden Union comes out, the cities for Neo-Alquire will be great.

>>55160578
Neo-Alquire has only been building their cities for 40 years. Mountain Home has been settled for over 300, and they have planning committees.
Seriously, the Under Home novels has them a plot point in the third one, Madness Sewers.

>>55160496
Smoke and Hunts are both similar and have their uses. But Smoke can utilize Earth Crusher and Hunts cannot. Now normally this wouldn't matter since all Mammoth Riders have EC, but according to RAW a unit cannot be hit by EC from more than one Mammoth Rider unit per turn per turn. Smoke may have EC, but he's not explicitly a Mammoth Rider, meaning you can blast an enemy with 2 EC's per turn. Until Games Company errattas that it's basically your only defense against hordes, it's not a great defense, but it's something.

>>55160741
>implying mountain fiefs won't just burn dow their capital again just so they don't surpase glorious mountain home
Lol

>>55160818
Fief fuel can't melt steel buildings, damn it, it'll be different this time.

>>55160759
I mean Neo-Alquire are more coherent as a society though.

You would be too if you had Orbs knocking on your door all day.

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>>55160871
>implying

>>55161087
They are, but remember that the MF honor-raids specifically leave infrastructure alone. So they never burn the farms or salt the fields, or collapse the sewers, or any number of the tactics that canonically got used on the area that would become the NAE during the Yeezy Civil War during 3e (and remember that the 4e introduction of the NAE had them being a formerly unimportant client state of the Yeezy until a civil war. Despite the retcon of 1e and 2e that they brought to the lore, they did fit with the established 3e lore)

>>55148585
Diversify? Past 3rd Ed you can't play Eldrich or Strange Aeons with non-fishmen allied units in your army. And don't tell me fishmen don't win or lose on power cards. Fishmen had always been a power card army.

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>>55158512
Catman the 1st didn't do "nothing", he actively chose not to interfere with the First Emperor's plans because after he died, he connected with FE's soul and realized that he was suffering the visions of the Red River Kingdoms disbanding from the empire. From there, Catman knew that the beast races would eventually unify under Yagmon and pose a legitimate threat to the RRKs from there. Catman gets to enjoy seeing everything fall apart.

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>finding all that ancient Frankcock smut GAMES COMPANY has been trying to bury for the past 30 years

this is fucking surreal, man

>>55161672
>Frankcock smut
I don't believe you. That was a myth started by a rival company.
Go on.

>>55148456
is this the thread where we make le epick quirky jokes?

>>55162795
Fuck off Orbposter.

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>>55162795
Orbfags need not apply.
You cunts need your own thread.

>>55161228
Even when we didn't have power cards, just sorceries and equipment, fishmen were a power point army. Damn things doubled your power gen and introduced the allocation-storage mechanic that helped start the orbs.
Curb-stomped everyone.

>>55162795
For a faction obsessed with giant balls, you sure don't have any.
On the other hand, you're playing a faction that explicitly, excepting the tricksters, has no frontal lobes.

I'm trying to start up an Imperial Court Red Kingdoms army, since they really don't seem to get too much attention and the synergy they offer is really cool, but what's the best way to handle them? Focus on keeping distance with those crossbowmen and Blood Knights keeping people distracted? Making my main bulk out of Riverfolk tribesmen and dogs? Or just putting in whatever while Scream Wizards handle everything? And yes, I have plenty of power cards.

>>55163310
Stick to high level elites like Blood Knights for the core and bulk out the army with tribesmen/dogs.
If you can stock a lot of PC's then Scream Wizards are fine, just don't rely on them with irregulars since once they cut through the chaff of your army, the SC's are done for.

And Imperial Court finds it's advantages in the elites anyways.

>>55163310
You can always add in Lester Frankcock for a fluffy option since you're doing RRK.

On another note, does anyone else find the telescopic bases for the Space Paratroopers to be fiddly as fuck? I get that we need to establish altitude, but goddamn they're hard to put together.

>>55163379
I like that. A mix between regal Blood Knights and wild folk. Fits with the whole Red River Kingdoms' sense of various cultures coming together. I want to avoid scream wizards if I can since they've become such a big meme here, so maybe I might just focus on melee and ranged, or at the very least put in a Fire Priest here and there if I need some power card help.

>>55163466
Game Company's too distracted thinking of the next gimmick to make sure their older stuff actually functions correctly. You might want to find some third party stuff to help you out there.

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>>55163502
I'll hunt around to find something.
There's some home made stuff I've seen, pic related.

>>55163466
I've got nothing against Lester Frankcock, but I want this to really focus on the Imperial Court's stuff, not FE things. Did they ever release any hero rules for Trivon?

>>55163563
Rules yes, model, not yet.

>>55163581
Damn. Any models that can act as a good substitute if I wind up liking those rules?

>>55163589
Look for someone suitably imperious.
Or maybe use Reaper minis and find something that works for his "battle attire" so to speak.

can we title the next thread with NEWG (for Non-Existent WarGame) so that we have a consistent name to look for?

>>55163770
I'm up for it as long as the game itself never gets a real name.

>>55163814
Deal.

>>55163646
Reaper is 7mm too small, but it'll work. Just be prepared for comically oversized bits if you choose to convert a mini from another line.

I did see a Sage-Emperor with Golden Union and Gilded Isles bits added on for a Trivon a few weeks ago. Looked pretty good.

So does anyone else believe the theories that the Orbs are actually trying to run away from whatever faction the Darkheart and the Dream King truly are part of? I mean from what we understand, the Elysium is a really sweet place. But if that's the case, why would the Orbs want to leave it?

So the Despairing Depths novel has the Space Paratroopers send their last FTL message probe off to request a proper base ship, with the manufacturing and training centers they don't have now, and they said it would be about 4 years before they heard back. Well, it's been 8 years in game and a full edition since! What happened? We still have the damn ammo cap per battle, and the fluff promises of exchanging that for lower damage with research into local materials are still unmentioned!
Why? Is Zarvus the only SP fluff they can remember?

>>55167096
Real answer: Games Company forgot about them in favor of more Zarvus details.

Potential story answer that could make it work: It's revealed that all their communications, and even how they perceive time alongside everyone on the planet, is off. The Space Paratroopers experience time at a much slower rate, so what's 8 years for us is 4 years to them. And Zarvus didn't just vanish forever for no reason, to him he's hardly left the front door. It would tie in perfectly with the Space = Dreamscape theory.

>>55167159
Then why don't we have the lowered power guns option? They didn't have an ammo cap in 3e, or earlier, and then they had them in playtest for 5e before removing them?

It was the fucking Orbs, wasn't it? They were the only force that could hit flying without penalty, and Games Company just loves those little bastards.

>>55167615
Orbposters make up an unfortunate chunk of Game Company's customers.

How the fuck did Tricksy Trixi get released in her current state?

I have to burn at worst three power cards to even reliably hit her through her fucking afterimages and this is a character that drops right into any list you're running in tricksters. Who already steal power cards every turn. I ended with one power card for five scream wizards TURN TWO

This shit is ridiculous. I should sell my wizards and become a ballboy

>>55163190
Lol. It might have lead to orb faggotry but Undeep Ones with Trident (pre nerf) and Impure Crown was the best unit/equip combo in the game. So much power generation abuse. So fun to play.

>>55168786
Allocation was great, even if it lead to orbs. We already played with tokens to represent power points, it made sense. GAME has always been more about resource management than fantasy operators operating fantastically.
But you know what they say, amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics...
And I don't see that many pros these days...

Where did the Space paratroopers come from anyways? I can't seem to find their orgin story anywhere.

>>55170956
Zarvus cult.

>>55170983
Weird, I thought they came from outer space.

>>55170983
Dammit, I hate that retcon. Back in 2e we were actually from space and proud of it! Not this "zealots with weird tech plans and a leader who lives in the dreamscape" bullshit they stuck us with.

>>55168786
Favorite unit?
>Orkhaic Bloodglobber with Chophakka riding Dyre Warwarg

>>55170956
>>55170983
>>55171021
>>55172838
it's actually a bit of both, the Space Paratroopers are indeed originally from Space(but space is weird in the NEWG universe, so it's also kinda the Dreamscape as well), but they've been on the NEWG world long enough that they've been interbreeding with the locals, so while a at least a third of all Space Paratroopers are of the original generation(since they age at an extremely slow rate compared to most other known races), most are second or third generation these days, Space Paratroopers who despite the name haven't really seen much of space(well beyond the Moon that is, they don't really have the ability to go interstellar with their remaining supplies and knowledge, but going to the moon is pretty simple in comparison)

>>55172992
>tfw you will never marry a qt 3.14 space paratrooper battle mechanic girl and raise a bunch of Zarvus worshipping kids
Why even love?

>>55173409
even more so when you remember that Space Paratroopers average 8-10 feet in height, missing out on some premier Snu-Snu

>>55174273
So that's why their models are so tall. Glorious.

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>>55174273
Only in the armor.
But man, I seriously want to get one of the Mechs. Yeah, I can't use them in anything but All Out rules, but those things are sweet - and realistic if they haven't retconned the fluff in the 3e Hold the Line supplement.
What's your favorite? Mine is the Eisen.

>>55174519
>>55174519
That's what the heavy Paratrooper armor looks like now? How the hell do you tell the difference between them and powerlords besides the extra magic bits Powerlords have?

>>55174358
>So that's why their models are so tall.
well that and when they were introduced in NEWG 2E, the original models for the Space Paratroopers were models from another company that GAME COMPANY had purchased and added to NEWG as at the time NEWG was Game Company's only game

>>55174519
>Only in the armor.
that was only the case in the first printings of 4th edition, the fans hated that change so much that they retconned it back to the way it had been from 2nd edition when they did the so called 4.5 Revision edition(admittedly that was done more to fix some massive printing errors that had effected 2/3rd of all copies of the original 4th edition book, but they also did some rule and fluff changes as well)

>>55174773
No, that's the drawing for the Eisen class mech. Or as the SP call them, "Movement-Coordinated Assault Walkers".

Okay, let's cut the crap and decide this once and for all.

Cat people or Fish people?

>>55177164
Fish People have the better models and are more competitive, but admittedly the Cat People have had the better lore for most of the game's existence

>>55177164
Niether
FE did nothing wrong

>>55178055
>giving up cat pussy in favor of fish fucks
>then stabbing all the fish
It's a good thing the kingdoms fell apart after FE did his thing, he practically made betrayal a cultural norm

So who do you think the Second Emperor will be?

Or, more importantly, how can it be anyone other than Mylaa Vitaar, the future Second Empress?

>>55180275
>implying it won't be alick
The blood of all yagmon must make the river red again
Mountain fiefs are our friends
Praise ancestors
*marries black witch*

>>55180640
Alick would destroy the RRKs with another full scale Yagmon war. Only reason First Emperor was able to pull it off was because he backstabbed the beastfolk when they least expected it. Something like that can't happen again.

How do I get started in this game?

>>55181464
Get one of the RRK starter packs, avoid fishmen and orbs.

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How do we save the birdfolk, /tg/?

Yogman just isn't as interesting without them, since you only see catmen, fishmen, and the occasional lizard dude. There's gotta be a way to make their rules work again.

>>55181808
according to the rumor mill the Bird People are supposed to be coming back within the year actually, supposedly they now function like most other regular sized units do, they just have some special abilities to represent the extra speed and agility them flying brings with them, rather than the over-complicated systems they had in the past(similarly this rumor indicates that the Bird People's return to being playable will be the spearpoint of a new wave of units for the various factions adding similar flying units to them)

>>55182277
Hopefully those rumors are true, it'll be nice to see them back on the field. Maybe we'll even get to see some fluff updates to explain what they've been doing while Yogman's been expanding.