The Judges in Judge Dredd are the good guys. Anyone who tells

>>55113244

>good guys
>not the best guys

enjoy your cube scumbag.

Well actually the canon good guys would probably be the Oz judges as in Judge Dredd Australia is the exact same post-apocalypse which makes it a paradise.

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>>55113244
That GW Judge Dredd RPG is so great. Here is a short list of reasons why you shouldn't bother with any of the other ones:

>Focuses on the buisiness and life of being a judge, doesn't get wishy-washy with playable citizens or anything.
>Runs on a highly specialised variant of the WFRP rules customised to reflect judging very well.
>Very low lethality for the bad guys. It is so incredibly rare to actually kill any one because of the games focus on making arrests, how scary judges are (they have a presence stat which can make perps surrender immediately), subduing techniques, and sentencing. Very few perps are mad enough to risk death.
>A unique and completely brilliant initiative system. In fact, a character's initiative is thier *health*. As they get battered they react slower and get fewer and fewer actions.
>You are the Law!

I recommend trying it out with some folk who are game for it. You'll have a blast!

Sorry, lost all my pics of Dredd himself. Have a perp instead!

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Best Judge coming through. And if you don't move out of the way, he'll nick you for malicious loitering.

>>55116451
>2000 AD

reminds me of an only game from the 70s I saw at an auction once entitled "the lunar wars of 2007" or something like that

and of course the infamous Street Fighter 2010, Back to the Future, etc

>>55113244
...Yeeeessssss? Things are pretty fucked up in the Megacity and they require extreme measures to police it.

Some Judges are bad guys, even judges face corruption (there's some non-american Megacities who own judge organisations are RIDICULOUSLY corrupt)

>>55116811
>non-american Megacities who own judge organisations are RIDICULOUSLY corrupt

Every justice dept has some bad apples, but I think only a few of them have been called to carpet for excess corruption: Barranquilla (so famously corrupt that Mega-City 1 arranged a regime change), Hong Kong and Brit-Cit spring to mind. It's been ages since I've read the Hondo City stories so I can't remember if there was a yakuza problem with the local department.

>>55116769
The tital 2000AD was a kind of joke when it was made back in the 70s. The average lifespan of a British comics magazine at the time was a few years, so the owners had a laugh about 'what if we made it all the way to 2000ad'. Still going strong today.

>>55117036
And not a single reboot or continuity change. Everything is canon and happens in real-time.

>>55116451
>That GW Judge Dredd RPG is so great

>there was a second edition
>that was cancelled 15 days prior to being sent to the printer
>the book exists SOMEWHERE
It's maddening.

>>55113244
They are the law guys.
Good and evil are irrelevant.

>>55117667
Has anyone tried contacting the writers or producers?

>>55116451

As sort of a brief follow-up; the game has a couple of small snares.

>It ignores the existance of daysticks. This is instantly and easily fixable.
>It's old hat and thus uses the Mk.1 Lawgiver and other old tech. This is subjective, maybe, but fans of modern Dredd might find more housekeeping than they wanted, depending on how specific they wanted to be. My advice? Just stick with the old gear; the entire book is written in the tone of older Dredd stores.
>Also subjective but it is also impossible to power-game. Judges *are* the power game in Mega City One! Even beginning characters are better trained and equipped than all but the most fearsome of opponents.

>>55117667
>The second edition was published by Games Workshop in 1989 as a 142-page hardcover book.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd:_The_Role-Playing_Game

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You must be a real bootlicking statist coward if you think that the absolute lack of any kind of accountability and power of the Judges is 'good'.

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>>55116969
Yes, the Yakuza were heavily meshed into Hondo City's Judge Inspector as of the Shimura stories, but it got a little better thanks to Shimura and Inaba's efforts. Brit Cit is usually far worse though, to the point that some of the Armitage stories show that their entire Judge system, the proto-Mega City and indeed those of a lot of other Mega Cities were actually formed after Mega City One's foundation by various organised crime groups as a way to protect themselves and safeguard their positions at the top of the heap. Mind you, that's shown by other stories to not be strictly true and the origins of the Judges, Mega Cities and immediately pre-War has been expanded upon and changed somewhat since then in main continuity Dreddd.

>>55117488
>And not a single reboot or continuity change.
Mostly true. Aside from the Armitage/mainstream Dredd back-and-forth mentioned above, they attempted one with Rogue Trooper, then went back on it, causing more confusion. Strontium Dog and Durham Red had some oddities, mostly related to Timey-Wimey bullshit. Pat Mills sometimes does stuff in work he's currently writing which fundamentally changes or retcons how things worked in older versions of his stories,but its usually just adding new information (that doesn't always make sense) rather than saying "this never happened". Even so, the long-running series are all still remarkably consistent.

>>55117766
My bad, I meant a third edition.

>>55117785
>the absolute lack of any kind of accountability
What about the SJS?

>>55116552
This strip has me feeling a mixture of heartwarmth and hilarity.

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>>55113244
Sure thing, Judge Pal!


Wanker...

>>55113244
I think you're missing the point, a lot.

DREDD 2 WHEN.
I'm also willing to settle for a TV show based off the Dredd movie.

>>55118219
>WHEN.
>willing to settle for a TV show

Well, in that case, 2018.

>>55118230
But is it based off the Dredd movie? Or is it a new adaptation?

>>55117683

But law and order ARE good.

>>55118219
There's going to be a tv show, but it's unlikely going to be like Dredd 2012. It'll probably be more like the comic given that everyone involved in the movie deal is British.

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>>55118253
This. It's virtue.

>>55118272
*everyone involved in the tv deal

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>>55116451
Kind of off topic but is that how an Adeptus Arbites would work?

>>55118297
The Arbites are direct rip-offs of Judges even down to the helmets they wear so yes.

>>55118297
Yes. Arbites are 1:1 Judge analogues, perhaps with even more brutality somehow.

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>>55118297
Just bust their knees with the shock-maul, then claim they died of drug overdose or something if their heart stops.

Penal planets are overpopulated anyway.

tfw the son actually inherits the sins of their father in 40k and generations live an die on horrible penal colonies

tfw imperial law is such an overlapping clusterfuck you can't really obey the law

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>>55118349
It's a coincidence (probably) but it makes me smile that the traditional Arbites design takes more after Deadworld's pre-Extinction Judges - primarily red and black, slit visor instead of an X, skulls and winged skulls for badge designs, vicious nature a plus.

>>55118401
Luncheon vouchers! Hot dog! I can't wait to be a Judge!

>>55118297
Maybe. The main difference is that there are higher powers that Arbites have to defer to (the Inquisition, etc) where as the Justice Department is the highest authority in Dredd's world.

There might also be something to be said about the idea that Arbites won't get involved in petty local matters of planetary law whereas there is no matter too petty for Dredd and co. to square up against.

>>55116969
One of the interesting things (and part of the joke) is that the judges of Mega City one are the least corrupt of all the mega cities. They take their monastic lifestyles and devotion to the law seriously!

MC1 is a keen look at mad totalitarianism and every other mega city is a new satire on a different flavour of corruption. It's neat.

>>55113244
It's true, but that's not a good thing.

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>>55118297
Arbites are Judges without the optimism or good side.

>>55117970
So it seems Hondo City did have the yakuza influence problem. I really have to read the Shimura and Inaba stories again. Also, Andy Clarke drew an ace Hondo City.

Re: Brit-Cit, the way I remember it, the whole city was founded by (an alliance of?) organised crime groups, who managed to take over the bits that mattered, then actually had the brass to request official MC1 Justice Dept assistance to turn them into the local justice department. I wonder what those instructor judges felt, seeing what the Brit-Cit judges became. Or seeing Murphyville and Cal Hab.

>>55118476
Yeah, the MC1 Judges take the law seriously, but I've always thought that when they go bad, they go 120% bad: two shining examples of arseholery are Grice and Edgar. The level of petty corruption, on other hand, is a lot lower than everywhere else (fear of the SJS?), with stuff like Rico and the judges of the Pit being their style. Nothing like the Star Chamber's mix of corruption and incompetence, or the turbo banana republic style of Barranquilla.

I'm looking for a Dredd arc to read on my week off work that I can get in book form. Any recommendations?

>>55118935
The Pit? I've always liked the story and it's long as well (30 parts, I think) so you've got plenty to read, and it's in TPB form.

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>>55113244
They're not, but they're really the only option at this point.

Dredd actually got to speak with Fargo, his clone father and the creator of the Justice System who was horrified it was still in place a nearly a century after his 'death' as he only meant it to be a temporary measure to get the US through a bad spot, not the new model of government adopted over the world. He begged Dredd to end it as his last words. Note, this man is the closest thing Dredd had to a God.

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>>55116584

>>55119027
Good guy Dredd, not as bad as everyone says he is

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>>55118277
Virtues are phantasms.

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>>55119104
I've always thought Armitage was Regan's and Morse's bastard clone child: not as hard as Regan but not averse to the old interrogation technique of banging a perp's head off the side of a Transit van, not as keen on solving shit with meticulous detective work as Morse but actually being a really bloody good detective under the hard exterior. I always wonder how the hell Armitage has made it this far without telling a perp to get his trousers on because he's nicked, though.

Treasure Steel, of course, is the hip 90s update of DS Lewis.

>>55119134
He's one of the better cops, in part because he truly believes in the law.

There was one short that I really liked which was about the benefits system, with the massive queues to receive benefits.
When the workers there were deliberately working slowly, Dredd fires them all, and replaces them with the first bunch of people in the queue.

Watched the movie yesterday, great coincidence this thread pops up. Any suggestions for a Dredd beginner? What comics? Any easy way to find em? Thanks.

>>55118157
You'd think that society would support physical discipline

>>55117785
I'm going to take this time to note that the Judges are not only not above the Law that they uphold, but actually held to a far higher standard. The same crime that would get a civilian a few weeks in an iso-cube, if committed by a Judge, will get that Judge twenty years of hard labor on the Saturnian moon of Titan.

Also it's worth noting, though it's easy to forget because neither of the movies kept this and it actually doesn't come up that often anyway, that Megacity One actually doesn't have a death penalty. Judges are allowed to kill perpetrators in the line of duty if the situation warrants it - and it frequently does - but when actually sentencing a perpetrator, "death" is not a valid sentence.

>>55119264
Who are these people? Who's Armitage?

>>55119317
Cursed Earth and Armageddon War are great if you want to indulge your inner thirteen year old.

>>55119317
My recommendation: go chronologically but do it selectively, because a lot of the early stuff is rather... weird. The Luna City stuff is one; I think the Judge Child story is a bit naff but since the effects of Judge Child pop up now and then, it's readable. Plus it introduces the Angel Gang.

Try reading Cursed Earth, The Day the Law Died, Block Mania and Apocalypse War for a solid foundation, then go chronologically according to your fancy. You can get them in TPB format (the Complete Case Files) if you want them as dead trees.

>>55119361
>Megacity One actually doesn't have a death penalty

There is a death penalty, but that's only for high treason and during wartime, I think. You can see it during the Apocalypse War. Even mass murder will get you time in cube, though.

>>55119431
Detective-Judge Armitage is a Judge from Brit-Cit, Treasure Steel his sidekick/long-suffering minion.

Detective Inspector Jack Regan is the star of The Sweeney, and the hardest police officer ever seen on big screen or small. Think the bald copper from The Shield, but not (nearly) as corrupt. Detective Inspector Morse is the complete opposite of Regan: he's the brainy type of plod who solves crimes through meticulous detectiving, and the star of a long-running TV series.

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>>55119317
The best starting story is The Cursed Earth, which is immediately followed by The Day the Law Died. They run from issues 60-110 of 2000 A.D. They are both found in The Complete Case Files Vol 2.
After that I'd recommend sticking to the big stories (20+ issues in length) or some of the famous story line (like the Dark Judges or Democracy), but your basically free to explore.

My personal favorite is Oz.

>>55119317
>Watched the movie yesterday
Did you was the LAWWWWWW? Or did you watch Anderson: the psychic rape chronicles?

>>55119317
Any good comics shop should have collections of the major stories. As mentioned previously in this thread, Judge Dredd has a very solid and well established continuity that has seen no real retcons in the 30+ years the series has been going. This can feel kind of intimidating, but being a weekly book, they do their best to keep things self contained and understandable, even in major storylines.

The big ones I'd recommend are:

The Cursed Earth
The Apocalypse War (If you only read one, then you need to read this. No other event in Dredd's history has been as important or as influential as this until very recently)
Judge Cal Saga
Judge Child & City of the Damned (City is a direct sequel to Judge Child)
America
Chopper
The Chief Judge's Man
Incubus (AKA Dredd vs Aliens. And yes, this is canon in Dredd)

In recent years, there was a massive shake-up in the Dreddverse in the form of Day of Chaos, and a large number of stories have flowed on from that.

>>55113244
What I never got about Judge Dredd as a setting was this:

1)You have a literal police state with enormous, far-ranging powers over the citizenry.
2) You have a lot of problems necessitating said police state. Most of them are caused by colossal overpopulation, as robotics and other forms of automation mean that you can economically feed, clothe, and otherwise manage everyone without having more than a tiny proportion of them working.
3) Why the fuck don't they institute some kind of birth control policy? It would literally solve everything a generation down the line.

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>>55119475
They're also both played by the same actor so it's hilarious to see Morse having watched a ton of Sweeney or vice versa; you seem to be watching a complete hard bastard in his younger-ish days mellow out into this thoughtful detective.

>>55119566
The thing is that in Judge Dredd humanity is thriving.

The Nuclear Apocalypse has happened, biological warfare of horrendous nature has happened, zombies, aliens, robot uprisings, Judge Death and many, many other things and humanity survives and thrives.

The Earth is barely inhabitable for reasons not caused directly from the over population but humanity keeps on going with an unprecedentedly large portion of the population having an unheard of amount of free time. Possibly too much free time. In that case get rid of so much automation would be better than population control.

It was even mentioned in one of the early issues (the one with the organ thieves and black market surgeons) that man could be biologically immortal off of nothing but it's expertise in organ grafting. Made illegal for the risk of increased murders for replacement meat.

In the 2nd Call-Me-Kenneth robot uprising it was revealed that they can transplant a brain into robot duplicate and become effectively immortal.

Cybernetics has a advanced to such a degree that they disqualify you if you have more than 20% by mass metal in the Olympics. Even Dredd has a pair of artificial lungs because lung cancer is a pussy ass bitch that can be forgotten.

And the off world colonies thrive. There are mega-cities on the moon and industrial complexes out in the far orbits. I don't know if humanity has gone extra-solar in The Cursed Earth but it can't be that far off.

Almost everything of note has been solved to an acceptable degree.

>>55119819
Not only organ grafting, but stookie pills make you functionally non-ageing. Now if only you didn't have to slaughter aliens to make them...

The brain-into-robot stuff was also done earlier, during the time when Dredd was having second thoughts about his job, with the little girl who fell into the chemical pool. That was a downer ending, though.

>Dredd has a pair of artificial lungs

I know he has bionic eyes (and wishes he could have had them earlier), but lungs? Have I missed something.

>>55119819
And the biggest hurdle mankind hasn't been able to pass is man himself. Many of the stories in Judge Dredd revolve around people just being too chaotic and incapable of living without a rigid system to structure their lives.

>>55119943
Which brings us back to OP's statement.

The Judges apply some basic minimal framework of structure to the lives of the citizens, without them and The Law it all comes crashing down.

They may be brutal and they may not be an ideal solution but they have in universe been proven to be the only option that works.

When it was given to the vote on what to do of the citizens that could be bothered to vote the majority voted to keep the Judges as the authority because a stupid system that actually works is not stupid.

>>55119445 >>55119475 >>55119493
>>55119564
Hey thanks, much appreciated.

>>55119566
>>55119819
I don't think "modern" (as in, the most recent stories) MC1 has much of a population problem, after three apocalypses within the last couple of decades wiping out most of the population.

>>55118166
Not as much as you are. For a leftist critique of right-wing authoritarianism, Wagner et al. fall prey to that classic blunder, only slightly less renowned than betting against a Sicilian when death is on the line; they've made their fascist thugs appear reasonable in comparison to the alternative.

Megacity-1 is a legitimately awful place to live and the Justice Department, unmoored from democratic accountability, is a brutal regime, but compared to what? Rampant crime and civil disorder? Mutant degeneracy? Or how about good, old-fashioned civic apathy? When the people of the Meg got the opportunity to disestablish Judicial rule, they voted in favor of keeping it.

As long as they continue to portray the Judges as the good guys, they will be the good guys. You want an authoritarian police state where the enforcers are the bad guys? Go read Hunger Games.

>>55118253
Nah man, you have to do it for itself otherwise you're fucking up.
>t.kant

>>55120765
The problem with reading Hunger Games is that while President Snow is unquestionably a bad guy, he's also the most fun character i the book.

>>55120765

Well stated my man.

>>55120765
I assume judges are not allowed to hold property or have relationships because otherwise being a judge is a great way to use the power for corrupt means and eventually to become a dictator.

I also assume they undergo psych evaluation so it doesn't become a self-reinforcing institute of psychopathy.

>>55121020
At least in Mega City One, that's pretty much the case. No relationships, and they all live pretty spartan lives. They're trained from young childhood, so service to the Justice Department is all they know.

Psych evaluations are a somewhat more rubbery concept, especially given the series' strong streak of blacker than hell humour.

MC1 seems to be the best functioning of the Mega Cities. About the only other one that seems to be functional is Oz, which takes a much looser approach to its Judges, who are part of the community and encouraged to have families. Oz of course, has the advantages of being one of the least densely populated Megacities (if not the least, excepting post DoC), and doesn't have psychic demon assaults, Sov terrorists and wars, serial killer mayors or the other madness that assaults the Big Meg every few months either.

>>55121098
What about Israel?

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>>55121020
I'm not yet that familiar with Dredd, but I remember this comic being posted before

>>55120862
Yeah, the problem with Hunger Games (and a lot of YA fiction) is that if you don't really care about the theme of "teenagers struggling against the adult system" you just end up being interested in who is the most entertaining character.

Like Code Geass is pretty much a YA fiction plot as a mecha anime, but Lelouch is just so entertaining as a character to watch you can still "root" for the designated protagonist even if you don't care about the fact it's a "young people revolt against old people" teen power fantasy.

>>55121020
The "no relations" stuff is mainly confided to MC1: Brit-Cit, for example, allows its judges to marry (and Treasure Steel is married, to a woman no less).

And yes, there are psychological examinations. Dredd himself starred in a series of strips where he was undergoing an extended one, after he started behaving oddly due to having a "Hans, are we ze baddies?" moment. He punched a colleague for giving him shit for billing the medical care of a young girl to the Justice Department, for instance. In the end, he was cleared for duty but IIRC the chief shrink said that he should be watched.

Dredd, of course, maintains his sanity by wearing boots too small for him.

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>>55121020
pretty much, yeah

>>55121438
>>55121207
You can accuse the Judges of plenty of things but they weren't hypocrites

>>55113244

PDFs when?

>>55121912
If you pray and obey all Megacity One ordnances, Judge Shakaranon may swing by, citizen.

>>55122213

Not only will I strive to obey all rules and ordinances, I wish to spread the understanding of law to others.

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I came as quickly as I could.

>>55121912
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2t66cc0456c16/Judge_Dredd_Games

Should be everything, uploaded by another kind anon many moons ago.

>>55123205

Judge, you do honor to /tg/City-1

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>>55121020
Psych evaluations are done relatively frequently for all judges, not just the ones displaying abnormal behaviours. The thing is, their priorities tend to be a bit different from ours, so they don't just look for things like excessive use of force, but also feelings of sexual love, over-fondness for personal grooming, some hobbies, things like that. The SJS, the Special Judicial Squad (one part Internal Affairs, one part stormtrooper, all bastard) are excessively zealous in their pursuit of Judges who aren't up to snuff. A few of the peculiar but functioning are allowed to join the Wally Squad, essentially undercover Judges pretending to be ordinary citizens, others are given the option of "retiring" to exile in the Cursed Earth, bringing Law to the Lawless. If they've actually broken laws though, its off to Titan and horrifically invasive cybernetic surgery.

The story >>55121318 is talking about is part of an early arc where Dredd is beginning to questions his role and the Role of Justice Department in Mega City One.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kx76212s1q9u7xi/2000AD_%23388_Judge_Dredd_-_Error_of_Judgement.cbr
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xak95c049qqg9yy/2000AD_%23389_Judge_Dredd_-_A_Case_for_Treatment.cbr
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tjlincw1k72f3k1/2000AD_%23390-392_Judge_Dredd_-_The_Wally_Squad.cbr

>>55119819
It was cancer of the Duodenum, actually, but he still beat it "like a fleeing perp with a fractured daystick".

I don't have time to stick around for much longer, but I can manage one short story focusing on Dredd's advancing years where that fantastic line comes from: The Man Comes Around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

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>Time.

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>Shakaranon story time

'ere we go, 'ere we go, 'ere we go!

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>Time...
>... wouldn't beat him.

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>HE WOULD NOT LET IT.

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Classic Dredd.

Does anyone have a mega file for Judge Dredd? I've been wanting to read the comics for a while now.

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>>55123794
Unfortunately I don't have time for much anything else right now. If we're all really lucky I might have time in some hours or tomorrow, but I'll lurk and try to help with other things if I can for the moment.

I can't seem to upload the last story right now, but I do have this one curiosity - the original script. Maybe you'll find it interesting?

>>55115952
>Well actually the canon good guys would probably be the Oz judges as in Judge Dredd Australia is the exact same post-apocalypse which makes it a paradise.
No joke, my favorite Dredd story is the one about the surfers in Oz. It's so bittersweet.

>>55123896
Shakanon and Judgeanon, my two purveyors of good comics and 2000AD knowledge.

Thanks a lot, man.

>>55123896
You da man still, Shakaranon. I remembered from the first page that "this is the one with the horse, innit?" but didn't actually remember that last panel at all.

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>>55123858
Is there any particular type of story you're after? There's been at least one Dredd story a week for 40 years, so there's rather a lot of ground to cover.

>>55118297
Arbites are not as "down to earth" as Judges.
I mean Arbites do not control traffic, not deal with petty crime. They also do not control the legislative power.

But yeah, in broad strokes they are Judges.

>>55123205

So the only thing mising from that collection of immediate worth is the Judge's Companion, and the only essential thing from it (the article: Statistically Speaking) I've cropped from a youtube review. Excellent.

>>55118246
New adaptation still starring Karl Urban

>>55124019
I remember an anon linking a mega (or was it mediafire) like a couple months ago in a thread where he story timed the Deadworld stories. Then my computer died, so I can't remember the thread number.

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>>55124467
That wasss me, and that was thisss
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1mdy9glj42lnw/Deadworld

If you're after more about thosse handssome Dark Judgesss and their perennial opponent, the curssed Psi Judge Anderson, thiss might be ussseful.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/0ioon02k7fu25/Anderson_%26_Death

>>55124543
Th-thanks!

>>55119881
Rico's got paper lungs, Dredd's only got the eyes.

He DID have cancer, though. Duodendum or something. Took that out and went right back on the job.

>>55121313
>Code Geass is pretty much a YA fiction plot as a mecha anime
>Lelouch is just so entertaining as a character to watch

I always took Code Geass as a really good example of how to write a villainous protagonist. It wasn't just that he was an entertaining character, it was that he played the villain act to the best of his abilities, but with the same plot agency usually reserved for heroes. He's also a good example of how to do a smart protagonist right, in my opinion.

As for Hunger Games, I avoided it due to the conceptual similarities between it and Battle Royale.

>>55120023
That was Ennis, Wagner wanted the citizens to vote the judges out of power and Dredd to have to deal with the fallout of not being on top of the system.

But Ennis was a cryto-fascist even then.

>>55121184
Radioactive crater, Jews relocated to Ethiopia.

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I have time for one story tonight, so I picked one I enjoyed recently. Its a semi-sequel to quite a long running series of stories but you don't need to have read them to keep up to speed, which is perfect for our purposes.

Dredd and other Judges are often compared to machines, but Justice Department is one of the few areas of Mega City One where robots are not employed to do a human's job. Every so often a bright spark in tech division has the bright idea to try and make a robot judge, and pretty much every time it ends badly. The most infamous examples of this trend were the Mechanismo projects, which appear in the stories of the same name. They're well worth a look, but today we're going to skip ahead to the program's latest iteration.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZjqVnWBhc

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Oooh.

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Dredd's Comportment is a book old Stoneyface wrote relatively early in his career on how one should properly act as Judge in Mega City One, with practical advice alongside explanations of Dredd's theories of justice. Its contents have never been fully shown, but its considered one of the principle examples a Judge should live up to.

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This story is set in the aftermath of Chaos Day, the worst disaster in Mega City History (which is really saying something!) Chief Judge Hershey here really can't spare the manpower

>>55127841
>LIE

Ahaha

>>55113244
>Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.
Even John Wagner?

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Another
>pat pat
moment.

>>55118020
>What about the SJS?
They're, against all odds, even worse. Say what you will about the regular ass Judges, they had to be brainwashed to put Judge Cal in power.

>>55119027
I dunno why, but this gag never gets old.

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On the one side, the man who tries as hard as he can to act like a heartless, unfeeling robot thanks to a combination of years of years of harsh training, constant exposure to evil at its most awful, and terrible loss and pain. On the other, an actual unfeeling robot programmed to feel empathy and try to behave far more humanely than any of his living peers, but armed with far more terrifying weapons.

I wonder what happens next?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENQGs5MjJU

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Meant to link this there >>55128144

link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENQGs5MjJU

rather than Shriekback, but hey, that's cool too!

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Well that's just weird.

It was Paul Leonard-Morgan's "Order In The Chaos" from the Dredd 3D soundtrack.

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Meant to be that, anyway. Its not even my favourite Shriekback number.

>>55128197
Man, I could go for some zziz.

>captcha is AUTOMATIC AUTOMAT
Go, Judge Harvey, go!

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Ha! Oh Joe.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNz2RnH6ClE

I'm sure it'll be fine.

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You have to love that part of the design brief was a permafrown and a chin like a slab of concrete.

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Headpats are an essential, if hitherto little used, tool in the Judge's arsenal.

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Oh no.

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Mega Blocks are often named after famous individuals. Dean Gaffney, for example, is an English actor most known for his performance as Robbie Jackson on the BBC soap opera EastEnders from 1993 to 2003 and again full-time from 2017, as well as his appearence on "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!". He'll be huge in 2070, set your calenders.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C34NhrK6wIU

>>55128011
SJS are basically the Illuminati out in the open.

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/gvad662cnd55odc/2000AD_%232024-2029_Judge_Dredd_-_Harvey.cbr

Good night earthletts!

I like Harvey. Assuming retirement is a thing Judges get to have, I choose to imagine Harvey visiting a retired Dredd regularly.

>>55128445

So was this the end of that whole arc then?

>>55123828
This never sat well with me. How to bionic eyes prevent hallucinations, which are really a brain thing not a vision thing?

>>55128144
>I AM THE LAW
I don't get to use this line often enough when I game.

>>55128506
Judges don't get to retire. They either take the Long Walk out into the Cursed Earth or City Bottom, get shunted out as Colonial Marhsals or become Judge Tutors at the Academy of Law.

>>55128606
For now, but being Judge Dredd, it will be brought back, very little is left alone.

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>>55119144
False, virtues are the absence of inability and unwillingness.

Thanks for the comics

>>55121207
Well, at least they're nice enough to send a team to fix the place

>>55121207
Do you suppose Dredd keeps his uniform on all the time because it's uncomfortable

>>55127913
I remember a storytime of Chaos day over on /co/. Felt like it was filled with a bunch of stories we were only getting to glance at.

>>55121318
It's moments like that or with Charlie ( I think the kids name was Charlie) where he genuinely does try to care about the citizens, but it doesn't always work out like he'd hope. Charlie was a big one cause while the kid was probably gonna be a good judge, he did technically break the rules and had to be kicked out of the program, the same program Dredd used his influence to get him into. He crushed that poor kids spirits harder than the city ever could.

Dredd is amazingly more complex than a faceless representation of authority should be. I wouldn't have it any other way.

>>55121207
Little does the SJS know that Dredd keeps his stash of illicit goods underneath his favorite reading chair.

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>>55113244
>Literal and explicit dystopian sci-fi satire of postmodern human nature, law&order, and totalitarianism
>"They're the unironic good guys"

Just like how Mustapha Mond is the unironic good guy of Brave New World.

>>55129727
The thing about the Judges is that, in the world they exist in, they are the best thing for people.

With 400 million people crammed into a single city surrounded by irradiated wasteland and the Black Atlantic, anything less than the Judges would lead to the collapse of human society and the rapid extinction of the species.

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>>55129755
>ction of the species
And Mustapha Mond, and by extension the World Government, has genuinely crafted a society that removes all strife and unhappiness, and maximizes the net fidelity of human happiness while similarly ensuring the indefinite survival of the human race. It's almost like well written Dystopian fiction written for ADULTS comments on the failings of human nature in the modern world by cranking those failures up to 11, then creating grotesque regimes that are technically in the right BECAUSE of those very same human failings it is commenting on.

>>55127976
Harvey is too good for this world

>>55129727
Their goods guys in the sense that the Imperium of Man are the good guys. In the context they live in they are but anything outside of context the sheer totalitarianism makes them bad guys.

>>55129727
They're the good guys in a setting where the good guys have to be monsters.

It's not a good thing, but it's an entertaining premise.

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>>55113244
Dredd killed 500 million civilians during the Apocalypse War. When Meg One invaded Banana Cit he shot children with cruise missiles.

He's solidly Lawful Evil, and that's why LE is the best alignment.

>>55115952
Pic very related

So I'm guessing that zziz is a perfectly harmless happy juice with no side effects whatsoever, and is only outlawed because giving someone a tiny shred of hope is itself incredibly addictive and dangerously subversive in the fucked up megafuture?

>>55130420
If you believe that, citizen, i've a bridge to sell you.

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>>55130420
It's a stimulant.
Of course, given that coffee, alcohol, and sugar are all prohibited as well, it wouldn't surprise me.

Also smoking outside of a licensed smokatorium.

>>55130527
>Smokatorium

Almost as dumb a name as "BOING".

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>>55130626
They're not good with names.

Also, depending on if the kids get helmets or not, that could be a serious punishment.

>>55128445
Awww. Can we at least keep Harvey on the streets?

>>55130828
We weren't allowed to keep Walter awound after a while. Good wobots don't last long in Judge Dwedd.

>>55130828
I dunno. I could see them improving Harvey so much that even Dredd passes him...

And then Harvey turns it down, because his standards are higher, and he doesn't think robot Judges are ready.

>>55113244
you clearly don't understand works of satire. please don't post here again.

>>55118355
Yeah, Imperial law is hilarious. The Arbites have a problem with a 'heresy' called Abstractionism, which is a fringe sect that comes to believe they're supposed to serve justice rather than Imperial Law. Complex cases can take centuries, and the childrens children of the criminal are then punished.

Some of the hardest duty they see is policing the vicious queue wars that break out on Administratum or Shrine planets. For American anons, that means waiting lines. As in war's break out over waiting lines

>>55119475
>>55119361
It should also be noted that, by our standards, The Cubes themselves aren't too inhumane aside from the isolation. TV, meals, and they work to rehab you. The problem of course is the Isolation, which will drive anyone insane

>>55123714
>one day Dredd will take the long walk

Fuck the Cursed Earth is so boned

>>55123828
So what was the horse?

>>55131114
This, so much this haha.

>>55124019
This is fantastic, thank you.

Related:
Does anybody have some perspective on what Dredd's writers over the years have thought of the character and the Judge system? I imagine that the earlier writers' ideas about the character differ somewhat from the modern writers.

>>55127483
>But Ennis was a cryto-fascist even then.

Oh? I'd love to hear more. The philosophies and politics of the writers seems like a really interesting meta-topic surrounding every depiction of Dredd.

>>55128321
The Mechanismo units seem to go for headpats: if memory serves, in the first Mechanismo story one of them patted a juve on the head.

>>55128445
Why aren't there robots as auxiliaries already? As in completely slaved to the Judge they work with, and no decision making at all.

>>55113244

>Judge Dredd
>Any Good Guys

Reading comprehension IS hard.

>>55133243
There are, but mostly they seem to have a combat function, not a judiciary one. In The Cursed Earth, the Killdozer troupe goes off with a number of war droids, for example.

>>55133334
City is too big. Any system but hard rule by The Law would result in anarchy.

Hundreds of millions of people in he confined environment of MC1 decide to go Full Black Friday and everyone is going to have a bad day.

The judicial system is the force of right in such an environment. Dredd enforces The Law because he has seen what happens without The Law.

He has also been instrumental in the changing of the law if it is too unjust, the bringing down of mutant apartheid for example and leaving the force on moral grounds twice in protest.

>>55129456
I don't think he has any other clothing.

Why would he?

>>55131257

The frequency of isolation for lawbreakers is the stupidest thing about Judge Dredd, especially since in all ways that actually cost money, the cubes are a pretty decent place to be. The system they have will take basically any criminal and turn them into an unhinged lunatic with a vendetta against society, and it costs them *more* to make it that way than it would to do the same thing, but put a few more criminals in each cube and give them people to talk to. That would be shitty in its own way, but it wouldn't induce insanity and it would be the work of an afternoon to convert existing iso-cubes to the new system.

>>55119144
Smelly dumb stirner scum

>>55131209
Makes me wonder what Judge Dredd would think of the Adeptus Arbites.

>>55133611
He would approve of their goals and most if not all of their methods but be horrified by their low numbers per head of the population and the underfunding.

I don't think he would approve of them not leading the High Lords of Terra.

>>55118355

That's true in North Korea as well, from what I've read. Hereditary crimes.

>>55133562
Not an argument, spook. Go lick a boot.

>>55133681
If North Korea wasn't real you would despair of your DM for making such a cartoonishly Stupid Evil kingdom.

>>55133403
I don't know, it doesn't seem like it from reading this comic. Or maybe they keep them for special occasions only, which would be dumb since they're complaining about losing judges right there.

>>55133461
It's shown the cubes are housed in a complex, the simplest way would be to make it a sort of apartment/arcology, you get put into Cube-Buildings with people with similar crimes, anyone attempting to escape is immediately shot, etc. The primary issue you run into - and probably why they use iso-cubes - is the personnel to police them

>>55128245
Get the goddamn robots, Shinji !

>>55128408
>Assume the position.
heh heh heh

>>55128445
Who's the robot nanny? Where does the kid go?

>>55131383
I think it was supposed to be Dredd himself. It's covered in scars and looks tired, worn out, but it's still standing strong - as much as it can, anyway. Whatever it was it also saved Dredd's life - the other Judges that went in first got hit by the bomb while the horse stopped Dredd for a moment and left him out of the immediate blast.

>>55131383
Instinct

>>55133768

And this brings up the related issue: The Judges might be the good guys, but they're still a dumb idea. The one resource Mega-City One has in never-ending abundance is people, and yet it's also the one resource the Judges are constantly running out of. "There's too many people" isn't a problem because MC1 has a high population. As population rises, so does the pool of people you can recruit from, and that remains true even if you're recruiting them from...I forget exactly how young they recruit judges, but either way, lots of people means lots of children means lots of recruits. The only reason they're facing manpower shortages (short of plot contrivance) is because their vetting process disqualifies huge swaths of potential candidates, which is absolutely necessary because the Judges are accountable to no one but themselves and only a tiny proportion of people can be handed that kind of power without being corrupted by it. A system that requires all law enforcement be handled by people of that caliber is one that can't help but be constantly teetering on the brink of anarchy, because it can't help but be constantly and critically understaffed.

>>55134583
That's the thing. The Judge system is self-enforcing. The Judges need absolute power, because their is not enough of them in proportion to the people. Why is there not enough of them? Because they need to be incredibly strict about who they allow, because they have absolute power.

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>>55133562

You'll come to like Stirner in time.
Everybody does.

>>55131383
Possession of a pet without a license, 1 month.
That is, if the owner hasn't died.

>>55134756
Which is probably why Dredd's so against robot Judges. It allows for mass production, which allows for more chance of a Judge going rogue.

Judge Cal was bad enough, but a massively armoured Judge Cal, with x-ray vision, inbuilt weaponry, and a host of other features?

No amount of headpats would make up for that.

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I find it interesting that the problem with that robot judge wasn't really the empathy part, we've seen judges get a case of that before (especially in other megacities) but that basically that it didn't stand down when ordered.

I guess it could have just issued a formal complaint against Dredd. Might have even won had it followed procedures.

>>55113244
MC1 would fare WELL better if they reduced the amount of illegal things, especially those that make no bloody sense (like banning coffee and tea) if you're prisons are horribly overrun.
But hey, probably a commentary on the war on drugs and stuff, MC1 is supposed to suck after all. And since their judges are rather ok (very uncorrupt and by the book), the laws are the problem.

>>55117970
Still better than the bullshit Marvel and DC pull every ten years.

>>55118219
I want a Judge Dredd animated show that animates faithfully the major story arcs and some of the more notable side-stories and doesn't cut out the weird shit and funny stuff.
Animation in american style would work much better than anything with real people (like with all comics, really).

>>55128903

Hm. I rather liked that whole story, even if sometimes i find Dredd a little bit too dark comedy for me. I liked that they sidestepped the obvious 'robots take over' idea, and that Dredd continues to grade Harvey fairly even while refusing to pass him.

>>55119819
And in the end it will all evolve into Termight from the Nemesis the Warlock comics, a place that makes Banana City look like a nice town to be.

>>55120765
And I honestly don't even know if we can call the Judges from MC1 "right-wing authoritarians", or "left-wing" for the matter.
Considering how social liberal MC1 can be, and how much general freedom corporations still have, it reads more like centrist politics became the gospel and is now uphold by a system which doesn't share or understand the spirit.
Let's say "authoritarian" and it would fit better.
Still, the people are the problem, they have become too stupid to govern himself, almost like if the USA from "Idiocrazy" had a normal intelligence police force.

>>55120765
>>55137974
That being said, it's important to note that JD isn't just satire on a police state, it's satire on everything contemporary, especially politics and consumerist.ESPECIALLY consumerist culture.

>>55123929
Remember the Mexican Stereotype Manbirds from that very arc?
I love JDs random funny weirdness.

Oh Shakaranon, how I have missed you.

>>55127483
Hm, I remember that the Judges, on Chief Judges' order and not really with Dredd's approval, did their best to sabotage the vote, e.g. by letting it rain or smear campaigns.
Chief Judge Silver later became a zombie, deserted MC1 while the Dark Judges massacred everyone and then returned and demanded to become CJ again. Dredd executed him for desertion.
Sometimes psychic judges can still feel a "pathetic presence" or something like that.
Oh, and his ash was sweapt away by a robot in the background.

>>55118401
There is a slight possibility that Arbites -are- Judges. GW held the Judge Dredd license in the mid 80's, and made a range of miniatures for it. When they lost the license they integrated a lot of their unreleased sculpts into their new Rogue Trader range.

>>55128485
Thanks for the story, Shakara!

Always brightens up my day a bit.

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>>55136232
>Judge Cal was bad enough

I still wonder why they haven't outright terminated the sleep machine regime, considering how Cal used it to brainwash the rank and file Judges into his minions.

Then again, the Mechanismo bots do crop up every now and then, so it's probably the old "we got it right THIS time!" syndrome.

LAW bump.

>>55121438
> No pay, no property, no personal time

Lies

>>55118253
Back to the Nine Hells with you, devil.

>>55140882
The sleep machines are too usefull, I guess.

>>55121098

>and doesn't have psychic demon assaults, Sov terrorists and wars, serial killer mayors or the other madness that assaults the Big Meg every few months either.

Well, that we know of. Would be fun to see a few Oz stories about that sort of stuff.

>>55149156
Most liekly they have mutant intelligent kangaroos, psychic evil platypi and a whole community of Nosferatu.

>>55149563

And the worst of all: New Zealanders.

>>55149156
Well, they did have the Judda camped out at Ayers Rock. Which Dredd then nuked.

>>55147141
hows a man swallow a long-ass file like that and not notice

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>>55150980
Could have been a fattie.

>>55151006
>those fatass-scooter
Never fails to make me laugh.

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>>55113244
Thanks to every anon in this thread. I rolled up a Paladin for Sunday and it was just what I needed.

>>55151152
I lost it at the fattie extremists along with them dropping their autoguns

What did they mean by this? I've got to say, seeing unironic lardwhales toting guns kept down by prompt judicial action got me in a good mood.

>>55113244
Judge Dredd is a setting with no good guys. Everyone is equally terrible and so you have no reason to care about any one of them and you mostly wish they'd all just die already.

>>55130686
>the helmets don't keep the smoke in because the cigarette sticks outside the helmet
>the helmets don't keep the smoke out because everyone wearing one is smoking
Literally what is the point

>>55153104
Fatties were a minor part of MC1 life: people who ate to excess to pass time. Just another part of life, no need to go futsie over it.

Then came the Apocalypse War, and in its aftermath, food rationing. The fatties (who weren't used to eating such small amounts) and other citizens (who were angered by the fatties' gluttony) were pretty much natural rivals. It led to a lot of civil unrest, the League of Fatties was created as a criminal organization, and basically a lot of law breaking.

So these'll probably be fatties who are trying to promote fattie pride, and their right to eat as many tonnes of food as they want.

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>>55153214
I love it.

>>55133449
He's got pajamas

but he sleeps with his helmet on

>>55153324
its almost prophetic

>>55133449
Spend enough time in any clothing and your bulging flesh-mass will displace it enough to mold it proper to your body. Didn't you know this?

>>55134583
Three years old is the preferred age.

>>55153170
Well the atmosphere of the smokatorium appears to be about 90% smoke so I'm guessing not asphyxiating is the point

>>55153327
And takes his baths with the helmet on.

>>55147141
So is that manslaughter or what?

>>55153104
The Fatties were part of megacity one for ages, slipping between being an encouraged and discouraged group.

They were encouraged because they were a "non-immoral" form of vice that could control the population, give them competition and unity. You don't have to try hard to be a fattie, but you can really go HAM on becoming a top tier competitive eater. Then, when rationing and austerity kicked in, they couldn't do that, and the fat got sent to places they could only leave when they were below a certain weight.

Whether the fatties were encouraged or discouraged was a political commentary for the UK at the time - trying to read US politics into 2000 AD from that period will just fail, because that's not what we were concerned with.

Just play "Where is Thatcher"

>>55153482
It's really weird that Judge Dredd is supposed to be American. Same with all the Thunderbirds and a lot of other stereotypically British characters. It's like if Captain America were randomly Australian.

>>55153598
It's America but the most British America imaginable.

>>55113244
It's not about good or bad it's about what's necessary. Dredd certainly doesn't consider himself a hero and nothing would make him happier than to tear down justice department replace it with freedom and democracy. It's just he knows that would get everyone killed. So he continues to support a system that only got almost everyone killed. 50million survivors is better than nothing, right?

>>55153598
Mega City One is essentially the British perception of America, dialed up to 11.

>>55117488
Some stuff does get hand waved away. You'd be hard pressed to find any references to Judge Grice's rebellion for example. But Yeah, no actual retcons

>>55153214
The fact that the fatty storyline (which was fantastically silly) came immediately after the hyper-serious Apocalypse War arc in which literal billions died is a microcosm of why I love 2000AD.

>>55118935
If you are already familiar with Dredds world Origins is good one. It's the full truth behind the creation of MC1 and justice department. Reasonably self contained a great Ezquerra art

>>55151006
Once upon a time, I had some dozen+ fatties I used as Chaos Cavalry. As fate would have it, I never lost a charge with them!. A friend got them and painted fast food logos on their backs, all the big ones and a few locals.

>>55119317
Readcomicsonline has all the casefiles to date. I recommend starting with volume 5: Apocalypse War. There is good stuff before that but it's pretty inconsistent. Volume5 is the start of a run lasting most of ten years with virtually no duds. It's the period the GW game is based on and the basis for Dredds reputation to this day

>>55120023
They traded freedom for security and ended up with neither. Now why does that sound familiar.... ?

>>55128900
That's not strictly true. It's rare but they can and do quit. Even Dolman, Dredds own clone, decided judging wasn't for him.

Whenever they bring up some excuse for why there aren't more judges or why judges are still in power or why anything, it always comes down to the writers needing to preserve the status quo, not any real in-story reason. Mega City One will always have judges and they will never be enough but they will always work better than any other option. Nobody would read about a safe Mega City One where judges have plenty of support from other government staff with less power, or about a Mega City One where something other than judges works well enough. It's the same reason Dredd will never die or retire even though they've been keeping up the paper-thin pretense of aging him in real time. People mistake the silliest plot contrivances for political statements. No, people. It's to preserve the marketable traits of a lucrative brand.

>>55154621
They must have softened the system in later progs.

>>55124019
I always figured it was a skewering in the sense of, "look how much has to change for this to be a good idea"

>>55124019
>Even the (apparently legal) concept of "manageable force" used notoriously, and disastrously by the Los Angeles police, is inspired by an unspoken political (racist) agenda
Cuck spotted.

>>55127960
>Ts dotted and Is crossed

>>55154303
I'm lost. Where do Apocalypse war start?
The first issue from volume 5 is phart.
This is after Judge Death?

>>55155613
It's one of those things where an idiom is deliberately mixed up for mild comic effect.

I dunno what it's called, like a spoonerism but with whole words instead of letters.

>>55133732
They like the idea of robots in combat capabilities. They DON'T like the idea of robots being allowed to kill people, which is an essential part of a Judge's job.

>>55129531
Ralphy.

Ralphy eventually started murdering people and Dredd had to put him down.

>>55153368
Actually, it's five years, not three.

>>55155638
Each Complete Case Files collects a particular arc and usually some bits that precede and follow the arc.

The first Judge Death story (introducing him and Psi-Judge Anderson) happens before the Apocalypse War, you can find it in Complete Case Files 3.

>>55155747
I was thinking of the Anthrax song: 15 years in academy.

>>55155871
The song is still correct, the Judges enter the academy at 5 and graduate at 20. At least officially, it does vary sometimes.

>>55155107
Yeah, as with a lot of things about the world they didn't think about the full ramifications of Judge being a job for life until they had to. I basically never comes up because judges mostly just die on the streets. The few we have seen quit struggle to adjust to civilian life and are encouraged to leave the city

>>55156442
Yeah. For instance, Dredd actually graduated after only about thirteen years.

>>55155638
Yes Judge Death is in volume two. Each casefiles contains one year of published Dredd stories. Apocalypse War along with Block Mania is the longest story in that volume it also includes all the other Dredd stories published that year

>>55157066
True, Dredd Creed and Rico are a special case. Being clones they matured much faster than regular kids

>>55119564
Where can I find these? Just finished Cursed Earth but I can't find The Apocalypse War online, and I dunno where to look for the other ones.

>>55158270
32P

>>55158403
I'm not hip enough to know what that means.

>>55158445
>32P
Obviously Phosphorus-32

By the way learn to google.

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>>55158836
>By the way learn to google.

m8

>>55119361
How bad is an iso cube tough?

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>>55158910

>>55155648
Malapropism

>>55158950
Depends on the artist's depiction.

>>55158950
Uncomfortable for a Brit, unimaginably terrifying for American. The rest of the world accepts unit standardization rather easily.

>>55159228
>Accepting an arbitrarily manner of measuring things designed to destroy a society's connection with the past just because everything goes up to a hundred.

Imperial was good enough to win WW2 and put a man on the moon.

>>55159474
The Apollo program used a mixture of Imperial and Metric units.

>>55153463
Death by misadventure most probably.

>>55119346
>implying that's the job of the parent and not the government
You wouldn't last a day in the setting

>>55160109
God that just sounds even worse.

>>55161584
>implying that it isn't

>>55127987
>135
dam
well you can't say megcity 1 doesn't have its perks

>>55165542
They even have separate blocks for the OAPs if they want the company of their fellow eldsters, and even euthanasiums. Judge Death attacked on or the other once in the earlier stories.

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I believe the thread is in autosage now, so there's a good chance you won't see this >>55153104, but I found the story the panel here is from >>55151006.

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Things have gone a bit pear shaped in the real world, but I'm still hoping to be able to do some Strontium Dog and Leviathan one day "Soon™".

>>55132418
>Does anybody have some perspective on what Dredd's writers over the years have thought of the character and the Judge system?
I can try to look some of that up for you when I have time and post it. Off the top of my head, I believe Alan Grant comes from a traditional Scottish Socialist background and thought Dredd should be more parodically fascistic and unsympathetic, while John Wagner started out disliking the character but came around to viewing him as a more rounded character exemplifying the best and the worst of the setting (to the point where he starts all drafts of his stories with the heading "Dredd as Hero" or "Dredd as Villain"); Pat Mills has some kind of loopy radical anarchist philosophy all his own and tends to default to over-the-top black comedy and satire, so while he doesn't particularly like what Dredd represents his stories tend to be pretty out there. 90s writers who grew up with Dredd were a mixed bag. Garth Ennis was probably the best, but he was too much of a fanboy (as he himself admits) and his desire to do his own epics like Apocalypse War got in the way, while the less said about Grant Morrison and Mark Miller the better. Writers tend to view Dredd more heroically as a living legend, but there's also many more opportunities to do stuff with non-Dredd Judges and there have been lots of successful spin offs in the wider universe where Dredd may or may not even appear.

>>55168727
This was a great story, wonderful perspective into how fucked up their society has become.

>>55168606
>The Continuity League of Fatties

Oh 2000AD. And Shakaranon, cheers yet again.

>>55168727
Thanks for posting