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More "surveys" no one cares about edition.

Post yourself for army guessing sub-edition

Citadel Paints
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/21/coming-soon-the-citadel-paint-system-in-your-pocket/
>Death Guard preview
http://imgur.com/a/90wRO

>Konor Campaign, Imperium in the lead, fighting back against the #RiggedSystem
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

Be excellent, aces
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thread claimed for the 4th sphere
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>>55110137
>Meme of the day
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>random paints app link I added to OP still being copy pasted

Haha
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>>55110180
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>>55110064
Math chamber is always akward for games, iirc it's fulgurites that comparatively win every fight ever point for point, but in game that's obviously not dominating

Mathhammer is nice for "is (x) attacking (y) generally useful", but power, general value, and usefulness requires a more in depth look
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>>55110164
>Ynarri kill the Admech..... I don't even know

It turns out the Omnissiah was Slaanesh.
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Once more, post games, show off models, show your dudes, etc
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>>55110137
God, I love old memes.
I hope this one joins the ranks of the eternal /tg/ memes
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Sisters are cute
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>>55110196
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Any suggestions for a 1500 point Necron list?
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>Emperor's Children won't be getting their own codex
>Daemons are shit and there aren't a lot of ways to make them better without making them overpowered
fuck
well at least Emperor's Children are still good and fun, and I guess I can summon my Daemonettes if I want.
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>>55110235
Working on some good wholesome Mandrakes.
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>>55110196
>flashlights
lel
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Few things. Death Guard codex art is just balls. Two big art pieces have been posted from the Codex and they're really good, no idea why GW didn't go with either of them.

Second... I'm considering getting the Limited Edition Codex... partly because it will likely have new art on the front but also because this is my first army and I really love DG so far.

Thoughts and experiences with limited edition codexes? From 8th?
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>>55110256
They will.
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repostin
>>55110114
>I don't think Girlyman is better than Magnus on the table either unless something changed.
You're joking, right? Guillman is much much better than magnus, and I say that as someone who plays UM and TS. Magnus is good, don't get me wrong, but Guillman has a better buffbubble, can't be targeted by most shooting, arguably better melee, has a better invul, better armor save, better warlord trait, gives free command points and he's cheaper than magnus.
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>>55110235

Okay.
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>>55110244
God that art is shit.
At least post something that helps support your point.
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>>55110265
Looking good.
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>>55110235
BIGGER THAN BIG
TALLER THAN TALL

KA-STEL-AN
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>>55110272
nah only 1k sons and Death guard this edition
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>>55110256
They'll get it eventually, just like TS and DG. Not anytime soon though. Late 2018 or early 2019 maybe, hence being thrown into CSM
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>go to GW store to pick up first army ever
>settle on Chaos Daemons because no one in my friend group plays Chaos anything, and Chaos Daemons seems pretty rare from what I've seen on /tg/
>purchase SC! Nurgle and paints/tools etc.
>when I finish paying ask "is Nurgle pretty popular around here?"
>"Definitely! We have tons of Nurgle players, x person around the corner is playing them right now and I have 2 regulars that come in and play them!"
>dude painting behind me says "I've got AoS Nurgle and a buddy of mine does too"

What's the cool kid race that no one plays /tg/ (other than Necron)

What's the cool kid daemon at least, I assumed Slaanesh but the owner of my GW store's favorite is Slaanesh
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>>55110291
Thank ya much! Been hunting the elusive DE elites lately. Anyone else's dreams pending on an e-mail from GW?
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>>55110303
Nope. EC and WE too.

Next year.
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>>55110268
>Two big art pieces have been posted from the Codex
Such as?
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>>55110244
That's the opposite of cute.
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>>55110268
They're going with "dude from the faction" on all the covers rather than battle scenes.
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>>55110329
You been asleep nigger?

This one has Typhus and pals having a cultural exchange with some Tau.
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>>55110327
I know it sucks but you need to stop lying to yourself
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>>55110267
4+ vs 3+ to wound and matching AP... Oh god tau technological supremacy is real, I guess.
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>>55110323

Slaanesh, by a huge margin.
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>>55110323
Nurgle is for fat neckbeards
Tzeentch is for autists
Khorne is for edgelords
Slaanesh is for trannies


Which description fits you best?
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>>55110329
>>55110356
Second is Mortarion and pal's vs some Ultramarines.
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Where's the Death Guard and AdMech articles? Warhammer Community hasn't posted nothing yet but I see /tg/ talking about new DG models, and 1d4chan says the release date for both codexes is the 28th.
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>>55110137
So what was the meme with this thing?
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>>55110378
WD leaks.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2359
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>>55110378
1d4chan is retarded.

All the new info is from the WD leak which is in the OP.

Codex for DG comes out 16th of September.
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>>55110268
>Thoughts and experiences with limited edition codexes? From 8th?
A massive waste of money.
A week after you get it, they'll change a number of interactions and point values, making it kinda useless as time goes on

If you just want to spend more money for different cover art, go for it
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>>55110235

His arms are on now but I forgot to take another picture.
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>>55110272
I do think all 4 cult legions should have gotten codices. So I hope so.
>>55110309
I really hope you're right, I want sonic helbrute, palatine blades, and phoenix guard terminators, that'd be such a cool release.
>>55110327
I honestly hope you're right but there's been no indication they will so far.
>>55110323
I am gonna be biased and recommend Slaanesh.
>>55110375
>Slaanesh is for trannies
This meme is lame, just because the ONE SoB to fall fell to Slaanesh doesn't mean everything Slaanesh is tranny
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>>55110391
Lurk more.
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>>55110323
why do you care what others have, it will be different in every store and most people have more than one army anyway.

P.S. Playin nurgle might well mean CSM/Warriors of nurgle not daemons but most people i know mix
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>>55110213
Fulgurites are REALLY good at looking at big smashy melee monstrosities like Primarchs, Bignids, Dreadnoughts and pretty much any other single model, or small unit like Ogryns, since they'll just surround it and unleash 12.22 Mortal Wounds plus whatever the regular damage would do.
Against actual CC units they're pretty bad, since the good ones this edition like KBs and Stealers have loads of attacks or multiple fight phases and will generally completely blend them if they get the charge off. Goes very rocket tag, and since the Electros have worse saves against small arms and are slower they usually lose.

Hoping in the codex they get some handy stratagem and are generally not massively nerfed like the Kastys are probably going to. The one stratagem we've seen so far is pretty bad though, 2CP just to change a Canticle mid-turn? If it let you pick an already used one it would be good, but we don't have enough CP to be using them on that kind of stuff.
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>>55110391
Back before 8th was officially released, people were making jokes about what units might become OP with the new edition. Some pasta about Nobz in a Naut got stuck (both were very suboptimal units in 7th, in a codex that was widely regarded as one of the worst of 7th)
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Q'Orl army when? They're more relevant than the tau
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>>55110422
7th is over. No amount of lurking will help him now.
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>>55110417
>This meme is lame, just because the ONE SoB to fall fell to Slaanesh doesn't mean everything Slaanesh is tranny
since when are sob trannies?
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>>55110438
Anon, Nobz in a Naut was something GW tried to push as a fantastic combination. It was shit.

That's funny. So there was the joke. /tg/ acted like it was the most broken thing in the game from time to time.
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>>55110414
Loks great, dude...[where's that howling griffons helmet you were gonna paint for his hand, I see the one on the pipe, but...]
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>>55110441
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>>55110356
I was expecting some idiot posting this.
This piece is just slightly better than the usual deviantart-tier crap, Mr. Shittastes.
You have literally no tools to understand what makes art good and no way to distinguish this badly composed "let's show the products" stuff from the old inspired and inspiring stuff of Kopinski, England, Blanche, Bonner, Gallagher, Gibbons, Goodwin, Miller, Smith.
Fucking kill yourself, you and all the morons that consider good such uninspired bland crap. You are the reason w cannot have nice things, GW can cut corners selling crap to you and people like you, unable to tell the good stuff from the bad.
You mass of ignorant sheep eat up any crap these fucking assholes shit out, being it deviantart-tier art, capeshit cinema and whatnot.
Kill yourself.
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>>55110334
>>55110286
Sorry. Here you go.
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>>55110425
I think diversity is fun. I plan on playing at the store and it's easier to get games if you play an army no one else plays

>P.S. Playin nurgle might well mean...
Yeah, this is definitely true, the girl that was playing Nurgle was playing 90% DG units with like, some Beasts of Nurgle or something. Strictly Chaos Daemons is probably a lot less common.
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>>55110435
Guillman has a 3++, why are you even talking about magnus vs guillman without knowing basic facts?'and while you may not take magnus for the buffbubble, Guillman's buffbubble alone is better than anything magnus can do. And all that still ignores guillman's ability to get back up after dying.
Magnus is a very good melee and a god tier psyker, but he is not better than guillman.
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>55110504

Oh you want this?

You want this (you).

Talk to the judge.
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Should I go 1k sons, admech or tau? I wouldn't be using Magnus if I went with the sons.
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>>55110537
Magnus can cast death hex which will just fucking cuck Guilliman so hard. He'd die to pretty much 2 meltas after that, if Magnus doesn't kill him himself.
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>>55110508
Do you have some kind of creepy fetish, anon?
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Will chaos chosen ever get a multi-part kit?

Also why does GW give chaos options like combo-plasma guns but never gives a kit for them; instead requiring kit bashing?
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>>55110557
I'd go Admech.

Tau are quite boring and Thousand Sons only really have cheese lists atm.
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>55110504
>being this much of a faggot
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>typhus and the other characters WD pricing segments haven't been posted

Pls
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>>55110508
Still ugly, no more anon.
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when can we expect the new boxes and the anniversary SM to drop? I need my new Hellblasters
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>>55110491

It's painted up, in his hand. I had all the arms separate and spent a while painting the helmet, damage, highlighting, gems... then when I glued the arm on you can't see any of it... welp.

When I post the final picture later this week with the arms on you'll sort of see it!
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>>55110539
Eh, he's not entirely wrong. I like the art piece well enough, but one of the things I hate about the new art- and I think chaos and Admech get the worst of it as they're supposed to be some of the most varied- is how it's repackaged models.

I'm totally fine with models inspiring art (obviously), but straight ripping it without changing anything is kinda dumb, and usually looks cheap. But Blanche is my favorite artist followed by Jes, so I may be stuck in the "old and outdated" state of mind
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>>55110582

That's because they're coming out in October.
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>>55110567

Because GW only loves the Imperium, specifically Space Marines, more specifically Pramaris atm, more exclusively not-BA and DA
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>>55110591
>putting in so much effort nobody will ever notice and commend him for
You're a good man, anon. This hobby could use more people like you. I look forward to seeing the completed model.
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>>55110590
Really fires those neurons eh anon?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13811069

Survey for you guys.
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>>55110539
Anon, you just miss the tools to understand what make things good. Dunno if the class and education, you origin and culture, or you level of intelligence, or the environment you grew into in addition to what I already listed.
Is a blessing, in a certain way. I KINDA envy you, sometimes.
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>>55110560
>Implying you'll get the opportunity to shoot at guillman
nigger what?
and if we want to bring other things using guillman or magnus' ability to shoot at one into the equation, then Guillman plus quad las killshot skullfucks magnus to death it's not even funny.
like I said, I play both UM and TS, so I've been on both sides of the equation. Guillman is a better unit.
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>>55110612
But the WD pictures say september 16th
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>>55110561
>An athletic, strong willed woman who has fought and suffered unspeakable horrors for her emperor and mankind's safety.
>Being unattracted to her because of her scars from such epic battles.
>Not wanting to cuddle with her as she enjoys the well deserved respite from war and bloodshed to be with you.

Your petty and you know it anon.
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Hi /tg/, got a rules question.

So, a detachment only has to share a single keyword (like Imperium).

Does that mean I can take an Ultramarines Tactical Squad with Salamanders Heavy Bolter and Blood Angels Assault Marines in a single Detachment?

If so, aren't Chapter Tactics ridiculously OP if you can just take whatever you want with whichever buff?
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>>55110612
Why are GW cucking the DG like this
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>>55110504
don't mind me, just wanted to pass you the (You) that >>55110539 and >>55110577 didn't
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>>55110672
>>55110667
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>>55110663
You can't hide from a charge, faggot.
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Okay, trying again!

I have some bad news, /40kg/. GW has just informed you that your favorite faction is gonna get eliminated -- and by your least favorite faction, no less. However, there is one bright spot: you get to write exactly how and why it goes down. How would you go about making the ultimate last dance for your faction of choice?

Pic probably related.
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>>55110636
Thanks man, that succulent price will make me buy one of each.
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>>55110303
Source.
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>>55110714
Why? Its more efficient to buy the 10 man boxes.
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>>55110669
>So, a detachment only has to share a single keyword (like Imperium).
correct
>Does that mean I can take an Ultramarines Tactical Squad with Salamanders Heavy Bolter and Blood Angels Assault Marines in a single Detachment?
I suppose
>If so, aren't Chapter Tactics ridiculously OP if you can just take whatever you want with whichever buff?
HOLD IT!
You only gain chapter tactics if your detachment is all from the same chapter. if even a single unit isn't, then you gain no such benefits.
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>>55110704
>yiffs kill tsons
>by falling to khorne and going 100% werewolf
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>>55110607
If you look at something from Smith, you feel way more life breathing from the subject. Kopinsky will show you the universe and the setting like in a well placed picture, while England or Blanche, albeit stylised (some argue excessively) will inspire about the tone.
The current crap? Model/Character X doing Y.
Wow.
>>55110539
Tell me, how much inspiration from conversions can one have from the current art? Current art is a short circuit with the models. It never goes beyond what is sold, because is, for the current GW policy, too dangerous.
Think about it for a minute.
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>>55110679
Thanks anon. But I think the shittasters just cannot mentally get it.
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>>55110323
Malal.
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>>55110653

>Ynnari and Eldar
>Chaos Renegades and Traitor guard
>Tau and Enclaves
>No Sororitas
Ya fucked up.
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>>55110748
Nigger, I have no idea what sort of Nostalgia glasses you're peering through but art has always been inconsistent and weird.

I don't get why you're so offended at them having art focus on models we get. I think that's cool.
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>>55110504
I'm not gonna tell you tell you to kill yourself, but he'srightyouknow.jpg

The new art specifically shows dudes from the boxes, and is very uninspired and dull. A lot of the older stuff was brimming with character and inspiration for conversions and did a fantastic job world building.

The older art was the reason 40k evolved as a setting and people made conversions and sculpted, to better attain their vision. There's a reason I've never wanted to convert a warmachine model.

Unfortunately GW has lost their way a bit with trying to "advance a story" driven by herohammer. They had an infinitely large playground to create campaigns and battlefields in and they decided to advance a ludicrous story line driven almost completely by asspulls, and artwork that shows nothing but adjective nounverber *tm firing ineffectually at each other at point blank range.
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Are familiars worth taking for a GSC magus? Running only a 500/600 point list btw
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>>55110740

Alright, thank you kindly. Good to know how chapter tactics work.

I play IG and want to buff a few units with Harker as he rerolls 1s to hit, I also play Pask, which is Cadian.

So, logically, I can let Harker buff every single unit besides Pask as he's locked into Cadian and I can just play everything else as Catachan?
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>>55110589
>>55110561
No
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>>55110787
He's right though
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>>55110787
As I said, you are just too limited. Read this:
>>55110789
After that, just fuck off. Is a wast of time talking with you.
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>>55110688
What are screen units?
and even then, you don't need to even waste your time on death hex, Guillman vs magnus comes down to who gets the charge off. If your casting death hex, it your turn, so you'll already win the fight mathhammer wise. And if it's not your turn, then Guillman will get the charge off and kill magnus.
But that's all besides the point, because
A) if you charge a primarch into another primarch your desperate or retarded
B) Guillman isn't better because of his melee ability, he's good because reroll all hit and wound within 6" for ultras, +1 to advance and charge and reroll morale and hit rolls of 1 for imperium units within 6", a chance to get any command point back on a 5+, and 3 free command points. The fact that he's one of the best melee units in the game is all icing on the cake. His real power comes in making already good units within 6" of him ungodly monsters. That's why he's better than magnus
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>>55110787
Art focus on only existing models dumbs the setting down and doesn't inspire for conversions.

Also, it looks like ass.

This chaos marine is not an existing mini, but holy shit do I want to make one.
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Can Vanguard Vets end up with dual pistols?
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>>55110484
since manface
also I'm honestly just parroting a lame meme to defend my army against lame memes
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>>55110282
> painted vostroyan guard
If all guard anon's had armies like these I would not mind them as much.
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>>55110837
>doesn't inspire for conversions.
I think it's because they fear 3rd parties. Also, the deviant-artists cost less for sure.
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I'm thinking of starting space marine army in 8th, are all bike lists viable or will I get tabled due to low model count/durability?
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>>55110282
>that axe motif on the barrel
>the number stamped on the turret

I know it's transfers but that is some patrician shit.
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>>55110356
Looks like the artist quit giving a shit after drawing Typhus
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>>55110704
>space marines wipe out everyone else
Pretty sure that is canon :^)
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>>55110738
Point limits with my friends. I've got some stuff brought, so it will end up as a 10 Hellblaster, 8 Reivers and 21 Intercessors.
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>>55110375
>tfw just want generic melee guys in armor
>tfw GW makes literally every single one edgy in some way

Can we get like just one melee chapter or warband that isn't

RIP AND TEAR
BLOOOOOOD
Shadows of dark shadowy darkness
Katana unsheathers
Just as memed lol I'm alpharius I am legion never forget never forgive
Bark bark bark bark
My allies/civilians only make my AoE boner harder
BURN LE WITCH PURGE PURGE LOL

WS are the closest no nonsense swordmen but they don't focus solely on melee and have that dumb bike and Mongolian gimmick. Maybe Storm Wardens? Bet they'll have some stupid thing too, like "my geneseed causes me to go into berserker trances where my accent becomes 500% more Scottish and my nipples turn into claymores"

Just give me some Bretonians or Empire great swords in space
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So am I reading the rules right if I gather that:

That an army just has to consist of detachments for it to be battle forged, and that those detachments just need to abide by their listed restrictions which usually means they need to share at least one faction keyword. So you can somehow have an Imperium detachment and a chaos detachment, and still be battle forged.

Added to this, judging from what I read on transports, I could get a bunch of dedicated transports from one detachment, and then jam whatever units from other detachment into them, regardless of faction keywords.

Am I reading this right? Because usually I'd assume that there'd be no fun allowed, but reading the rules I could find on it over multiple times, it seems like there are endless possibilities for the retarded armies I can make.
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>>55110704
>Smurfs go into the warp to kill Slaanesh
>Slaanesh dying has the effect of a large object sinking into water
>this translates in the warp as all the smurfs there falling into the black hole that is Slaanesh
>Girlyman, who lead the charge, is killed by Fulgrim in melee
>Fulgrim and Girlyman die together, Fulgrim finds this poetic and congratulates Girlyman on his Pyrrhic victory with their dying breaths
>Ultramar is left defenceless and Abaddon destroys it when he probably should have been helping defend the warp
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>>55110924
Homebrew that shit, nigger.
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>>55110282

Did that chaos dread run amok through IG lines?
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>>55110704
Space wolves kill all the tau.
No idea how ID make it better though. The emperor wakes up and something interesting happen who knows.
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>>55110837
This also isn't an existing model at the time of it's creation. Will probably get a model since DG are getting that flail weapon or you'd have to convert it with DG kits.
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>>55110940
This, just make shit up. 40k is made for it.
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>>55110924
>GW won't imagine the specific thing I want.
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>>55110704
But the Tau already wiped out the Raven Guard
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>>55110858
I'm pretty sure it's entirely informed by the legal problems they've had, so it's really not all the fault of the company. As a matter of fact they still put out some really awesome shit from time to time.

There's a piece that has a fleet master and his attendants on the bridge of an imperial ship and you can see all the ships in the background. It came out around the same time 8th/Konor did; I can't find it right now but that shit was awesome.
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>>55110137
So, Wraith Guard; Are they any good?

D-Scythe or Cannon?
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>>55110972
>specific thing

It's literally the most vague generic thing ever, and GW somehow doesn't have them. It's like a game that has knights Paladins barbarians corsairs gladiators dragoons etc but they don't have fighters or warriors

It's probably since there are guns in the setting. There are plenty of generic chapters if you aren't looking for melee
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>>55110890
Nah you gotta get on board mate, now it's Abaddon the Super Awesome who's Destined to Win and even the Chaos Gods Fear Him!

>>55110932

I could actually dig that

>>55110975

Didn't they just kill a literally who chapter master so that the one named character (Shrike) could take over?
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>>55110997
Extremely good in Ynnari. Both weapons work.
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>>55110924
Maybe astral knights? Those guys are pretty much just badass knights in space, they use generic space marine armor, no fancy bits or nothing, their entire lore is "brave space marines, but good with swords too"
Plus, they go out with a bang, have a cool paintscheme and a good fluff reason for making them an all primaris army (if your a faggot who plays primaris, that is)
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>>55110984
>I'm pretty sure it's entirely informed by the legal problems they've had
That's really sad
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>>55110950

Allowed it to chew some of my boys, 1 survived after morale, then dropped it with a battle cannon shot and a disciplined score of Lasgun volleys.
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>>55111011
Always saw khorne berzerker as more of a metal thing than an edgy thing.
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>>55110789
>herohammer
You just summed up my problem with the current approach to 40k in one word.

Tune in next week for more adventures of Roboute Guilliman, the protagonist of Warhammer 40000, folks!
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>>55110704
Thousand Sons fight Space Wolves one last time.
Magnus smites Russ, makes the Space Wolves so mad they all explode and everyone on Fenris dies. Or something, I dunno.
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>>55111012
Honestly I'd hate it, but I was given a thought experiment and damn it I'm gonna dick over the smurfs as much as I can.
Also I had some creative liberties as no one knows what the fuck would happen if you actually did kill a chaos god.
not that any amount of mortals could kill Slaanesh, their numbers would honestly just get turned against them in this scenario as more than half of their big anti-daemon gunners fall to Slaanesh the instant they spot Slaanesh since Slaanesh has a literal aura of corruption that affects anyone who sees him
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>>55111031
Ya it's too bad but that's a fact of life when your company is based off of an IP. People start to rip you off and you have to do something about it.

Shoot, I haven't bought one of their books in a long time. But they also used to be soft cover, not all color, and 20$. So there's some give and take.
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>>55111012
HIS NAME WAS CORVIN SEVERAX AND HE WAS MY SPIRITUAL LIEGE REEEEEEEEE
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>>55111022
Awesome; I'm the guy from last thread. So what would be good units to back the Wraithguard up? Of course I will have Yvraine, but as for Troops, Kabalites seem to be the most efficient for Soul Burst. Scourges would be my other choice, but I'm not sure.
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>>55111041
The units, sure. The fans? Not so much.
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>>55110928
Matched play requires all detachments to share a keyword. Transports have what they can transport listed on the transports themselves.
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>>55110502
Pussy faced blue faggots.
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>>55110924

I feel you, senpai.

I just want to play a generic mixture of ork stuff, but every klan is super specialized and excludes other units.
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>>55111041
Some people think metal motifs are edgy. Which is dumb since 40k is like Skulls: the Setting.
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>>55111041
Shit man when I was a kid edgy was cool.
These days everyone has delicate sensitivities so if it's not soft and rainbow coloured it's "edgy"
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>>55111106
>Some people think metal motifs are edgy.
I never got that line of thought honestly. 40k is literally every heavy metal album cover crammed into one setting, liking that and then having the gall to say something that's more or less the distilled essence of that very idea edgy is fucking stupid.
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>>55111114
Edgy is still cool, it's just uncool to like it in the current counter-culture.
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I wish GW would release more 3+ CP detachments. Something like 2-3HQ and 2FA+1Heavy Support, or 2-3HQ and 2 Elite+1Troop. Something to spice it up for armies that don't have an abundance of troop choices.
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>>55111114
It changed because we started getting coldsteel the hedgehog tier stuff.
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>>55111127
Needs more skimpy women and big hair.
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>>55111135
Edgy is still cool for any 10/15 years old kid. it's uncool once you turn 18 and keep acting like a fucking deviant-art coneisseur.
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>>55111090
Part of what makes Wraith units so good for soul burst is their natural range is close, as such I don't think it's best to focus on sacrificial units to juice soulburst. Instead just take good units to soulburst off killing the other bastard and your own units will also die naturally. Harlequins are actually pretty good troops in Ynnari, as are bikes of all sorts. A few Kabalites or Rangers to camp objectives make sense as well. Aside from that Wave Sepents are recommended.
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>>55110924
>WS
Who? Mongolian gimmick sounds cool.
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>>55111103
Our mechs are cooler than yours.
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>>55111141

It makes me chuckle that he's basically named after a product line. Benchmade the Echidna. Spyderco the Fox.
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>>55111171
White Scars
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>>55111011
>It's literally the most vague generic thing ever

Yes. You specifically want something generic. The thing that you want is generic, but you are specific about what you want. You are specific about the generic thing you want.

And that's terrible.
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>>55111149
Esxher are coming
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>>55110924
Ultramarines.
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>>55111135
All my childhood tastes are edgy.
I like metal music, I like blood, over the type violence in video games and movies is entertaining and cathartic damn it.
You know what was a great movie series? Fucking Terminator, guess what'd be considered edgy these days? I'll give you a hint, fucking Terminator.
>>55111141
Okay that's not even edgy that's just cringe.
>>55111152
The only reason edgy became uncool is because idiots got edgy confused with cringe.
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>>55111152
Case in point.

Maybe when you get a bit older you'll realize even 18-22 year old are fucking children and real adults don't care about enjoying "immature" things. There's a reason all the real adults go through a phase of thinking their old childhood joys are childish, then re-embracing them in adulthood, like adults enjoying Pokemon or Power Rangers again after saying it was "for kids" when they were angsty teens.
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>>55111173
>boxy weebshit
fucking orks have more interesting mechs
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>>55111127
>>55111114
>>55111091
Its obviously subjective, but to me the difference between something being metal and something being edgy is my reaction.
>edgy
Ugh.
>metal
Lel that's rad.
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>>55111194
No shit, if something is cool people will chase after it and make a load of garbage in their wake. People then get sick of it and move on to something else.
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>>55111199
I'm 22 and I think I skipped the angsty teen phase.
I still watch Nightmare Before Christmas with my family on Halloween.
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>>55111186
>yfw I also play the most generic boring characters like Ryu and Sol Badguy

When I feel fancy I pick a costume color other than default or play Ken. I'm the most hardcore milquetoast around.
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>>55111209
A Marine player is calling out another faction for having boxy shit? Seriously?

And you're fucking right, ork mechs are the shit.
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>>55111213
The only difference between the two is metal doesn't take itself seriously.
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>>55110417
>No indication WE and EC will get a codex
I think that DG and TS getting seperate codexes being released is reason enough to expect two more. Everyone is acting like GWs doesnt like money. Why sell one chaos codex when you can break it down into 4 others as well. They will 100% get a codex next year with new models.
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>>55111213
>>55111220
I think edgy is just cringe metal.
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>>55111247
>XV8's are literally made out of box shapes

I don't get it, all their tanks have curved edges. FW tried to do it with XV86 and it just looks weird. XV9 are okay and when they start putting curves on things like Y'vara they look pretty good. XV8 are all hard angles.
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>>55111255
More being self-aware rather than unseriously.
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So Primaris Mentors, cool or nah?
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>>55110924
Try a Scars successor. It makes sense for them to maintain an emphasis of Fast Attack while losing the Mongolion flavor. Plus if you slant more towards Jump Packs dudes and just a handful of bikes the White Scars chapter tactics are excellent for a melee force.
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>>55111213
I mean, shit like Deldar can be edgy but still cool because they're self-aware. But when some kid whose pimples you can smell through the screen comes here and starts posting about his vivid fantasies of being Kharn and ripping through faggy elves (who are gay) and being the most baddest, then yeah, it's fair to take the piss out of them.

Self-awareness is what keeps 40k from being cringe as shit desu senpai.
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Necrons are boxy too, until they made Canoptek models. Nobody talks about Necron anything though.
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>>55110924
Storm wardens are pretty subtly Scottish. They have a clan system, wear some tartan and live in a bog clearly inspired by Glasgow, other than that they're really not snowflakey.
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>>55111283
Sure. They're literally in the new codex.
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>>55111287
>slant

Racist!

>2nd founding WS successor
>only have jump packs and swords because the White Scars kept all the bikes and bolters-to-be-attached-to-more-bikes so they didn't outfit their successors properly
>constantly waving their fists angrily at White Scars whenever they meet
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>>55111293
There's very little to talk about unfortunately.
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>>55111274
Yeah, kinda wish XV8's weren't the signature battlesuit, because designs like XV9s and Ghostkeels are way more aesthetically pleasing. But what you gonna do.
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>>55111283
Arent Mentors the "we test dat first" chapter anyway?
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>>55111292
>Deldar can be edgy but still cool

Only edgelord DEfags think DE are cool. Corsairs are what regular people think of when they think of cool "evil" Eldar.
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>>55111292
>Self-awareness is what keeps 40k from being cringe as shit desu senpai.
Im keeping this statement, I've never seen the light clear as now.
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>>55111332
>Anyone has actually seen a corsair player.
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>>55111224
>Halloween
>When it's clearly a christmas movie

The fuck?
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>>55111391
It is both.
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>>55111156
Hm. So in that case, maybe I should bring a 5 man troupe of Harlequins. I forgot that Soul Burst can trigger on enemy units deaths, which makes them even scarier. However, Harlequins are a bit expensive, and even a basic 5 man squad means I lose out on the D-Scythes. I am completely new to Eldar, and I am starting them up in a Escalation league, starting at 500 points, and building up from that.
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>>55111332
See that's the thing. They're so ridiculously over the top evil that it kinda loops back where you just enjoy it. It's a thin line.

>>55111352

If you remove the desu senpai I'm hunting you down
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>>55111412
Warlocks are stupidly cheap soul burst procs. Smite, charge, get killed, then shoot em with your wraiths.
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>>55111224
Nightmare Before Christmas is a fucking amazing movie though.
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>>55111095
Thanks a bunch, was gonna ask where you found the part about matched play, but I found it myself.
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>>55111391
It's both.
Also gets my little brothers excited for Christmas.
Also I watch it on my own sometimes when the mood strikes me.
>>55111433
Fucking right?
I guess another example would be that I love Bloodborne and that's "edgy" too.
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>>55111432
Gotcha; I'll think about adding one in when I get some points, but right now its super tight point and money wise
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>>55111468
Bloodborne should only be labeled "edgy" because so much of the design in that world has sharp edges. Otherwise it's a fun little look into a Lovecraftian style world as devised by the Japanese.
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>>55110875
Transfers are a lost art among the 40k community
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>>55110924
Nigger how about you open up google and look up chapters tosee if there's one that fits. There's litteraly more than a hundred chapters WITH AN ACTUAL COLOR SCHEME so that you don't even have to think too hard.
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>>55111268
Edgy is metal that takes itself seriously. So yes, cringe.
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>>55110235
I posted these in the /wip/ thread as well. I was dissatisfied with the Berzerkers models so I'm making my own out of them and Blood Warriors. I have seen other people do this but they leave the leather boots alone and that bothered me, so I cut off the boots and swapped them for the Berzerkers lower legs.
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>>55111549
Outstanding. What's the size of those things
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>>55111549
The boot swap doesn't look nearly as bad as I thought it would. I'm gonna be converting some soon too - ya think regular CSM boots will work as well as your berzerker boots?
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>>55111528
So how many of those are melee specialists? Oh right, you don't even know, yet you decided to post anyway.
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>>55111531
>>55111468
>>55111332
>>55111292
>>55111268
>>55111213
40k as a whole is edgy as fuck/cringy anons.. Go up to any well adjusted member of society and explain your factions fluff with art slides.
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>>55111504
I like Bloodborne's design and themes.
I don't know many people IRL aside from myself and my best friend that actually likes Lovecraft's works though.
Also I like blood, both as a theme and a thing. The theme of power in blood is as old as dirt but damn is it one of my favourite themes. Bloodborne takes that theme and adds a dark twist to it by adding a level of grimdark to it, Lovecraft style.
Also cosmic horror is awesome.
Then again I'm a Dark Souls fanboy, I even made Lucius the Eternal in the second game, heavy armor, high dex, high adaptability, high vigor (or vitality whichever one was equip load it's been a while) curved sword in left hand for parry-riposte and notched whip in main hand. That was a fun character, people even emoted applause if they recognised it.
>>55111620
My faction is Slaanesh but I'm not really comfortable showing people porn in public.
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>>55111615
That was an example of all the pre established paint schemes you twit. You noggin ain't joggin enough yet to do this lurk moar and report back buddy!
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Did the Black Dragons get Primaris?
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>>55111615
I count 19, maybe counting is too hard for you?.
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>>55110240
>kroot now come in squads of 10
>still sold in boxes of 16
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>>55111656
I doubt it because they are so mutated. Primaris are supposed to have perfect gene seed and shit. BUT you can do whatever you want with your dudes. Maybe they are a fucked up batch.
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What is the cheapest HQ for imperials? I just want to field some assassins without fucking up the detachments
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>>55111656
Yup. They're featured in the 8th Ed. Codex.
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>>55111700
You are supposed to buy 5 boxes
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>>55111722
Cheapest is the IG Company Commander. Cheapest useful HQ is a Primaris Psyker.
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Rough mockup of my Sister of Silence Vindicare Count-As
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>>55111669
>why can't we have chapters that aren't like BT
>posts a chart with BT on it

Guess reading is too hard for you.
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>>55111468
Bloodborne is also amazing anon. I'm afraid you might be cursed with good taste.

>>55111620

Joke's on you, I'm a Tau guy. Wait fuck that's still socially inappropriate but from a different angle.
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>>55111190
Oh god that paint job is so ugly.
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>>55110837
This guy gets it.
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>>55110704

Thousand Sons go down fighting the wolves, but reveal the wolves nature to the Imperium, and expose their Rune Priests as demon humpers. Russ kills Magnus, and as Magnus dies the two finally work out that it was FUCKING Horus who caused all this. Space wolves go traitor, because they are literally khornates the whole time.

Also before Russ dies he thinks that his Legions fetish for wolves is sick, but perishes before he can correct them.
Fuck you furries.
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This is it, the very last of my ork models to be primed. After this, there will be no more. My 8,000 points of orks will be done

Barring new releases
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Best loadout for armored sentinels GO!
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>>55111620
>Go up to any well adjusted member of society and explain your factions fluff with art slides.
Normies' tastes are entirely in their collective ass, what would that prove?
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>>55111620
Why would I be talking to well adjusted people?
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>>55111889
Justin is that you?
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>>55111562
Pretty big, a head taller than the original model.

>>55111583
It would, the Berzerkers have the running pose so you get some with boot tread. Also the kit comes with some chainswords and chainaxes I need. Only six of each unfortunately.
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>>55111893
>>55111918
See folks edge/cringe! I hate to break it to everyone but we're all wizards here. I'll always love you all regardless.
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>accidentally posted in the dead thread.
Just got my first squad of guardsmen, with some conversion bits in the mail. Next step is going to be buying IG and MT SC boxes and an IG Armored Fist box. However, I noticed the sprue doesn't come with melta or plasma guns. How/where am I supposed to obtain these? Furthermore, how am I supposed to obtain things like heavy flamers and shotguns for veterans?
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>>55111972
Hahahahaha
>getting acceptable numbers of spec weps as IG
No but seriously because the IG infantry for Cadians hasn't been touched in about 15 years you can buy metal blisterpacks on the gw-site for special weapon dudes. Alternately you can buy the Cadian Command Squad box which comes with 1 of each special wep (inc heavy flamer). Otherwise just find some spec weps from your buddies and do a bit of converting to make em fit.
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>>55111798
Yup. Seems to have done by the Forgeworld painters. They kinda suck at anything that hasn't been weathered to hell and back.
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>>55110235
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>>55112081
Oh well. That's ok. I didn't mean for my forces to use much plasma or melta to begin with. I intend to mostly focus on explosives and flames, so if the guardsmen come with that in abundance and nothing else, that's fine with me.
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>>55111939
No?
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>>55111757
Awesome, I'm all about counts-as assassins
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>>55112145
Well that will work out well then. Grenade launchers honestly are not in a bad place right now and Flamers will never be bad.
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>>55112158
I was literally just talking to a buddy from work that I introduced to 40k and he's putting together an armored sentinel, so I had to check.
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>>55112136
>the ass was fat
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What are the chances they'll have Forgeworld release an experimental rules data card for Aquillon Custodes Terminators?
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>>55112136
did you paint those custodes yourself? look really professional.
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>>55111843
Does the starter set for Thousand Sons come with a giant pile of butthurt against the yiffs?
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>>55110326
I managed to get 10 metal mandrakes for 100 Australian. Pretty happy about that.
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>>55112239
'Eavy Metal has a very distinct look, and if you follow their tutorials on certain things like gold or bases and paint it well, it will look like official stuff. Not that guy, but my guess is he just painted it similarly to GW. I.e. silver highlights on the gold.
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Alright I was convinced by the painted vostroyan army this morning, where do I start with building an army anons. Tanks are great but I'd like to go with a combined arms style to get all of the goodies, additionally are there any good conscript models for them since they only have the standard squad on the website?
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>>55111843
>Thousand Virgins STILL assmad about getting wrecked over and over by Chad Wolves.
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>>55111792
>cursed with good taste
Oh no.
Is there a cure?
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>>55111884
Nicely done, let's see them all together when you're done!
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>>55112374
>additionally are there any good conscript models for them
Necromunda Van Saars. I wouldn't invest much in conscripts at the moment though since they're bound to get nerfed in Chapter Approved. If you still want them I'd buy the cheapest models you could find for em which is probably the 5 man Cadian box at $2 a head.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Imperial-Guard-Cadians-5-models
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>>55112445
>bound to get nerfed in chapter approved
Fucking lol, the chances of conscripts getting changed whatsoever is laughable, they'll probably just get put in platoons or something to bring their tax back or commissars might get changed
>t. Guardfag hater
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>>55111549
Badass. The legs make a huge difference.
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>>55112477
They've nerfed all the other tournament problem units one by one.
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>>55112376
>furries/neckbeards obsessed with muh vikings
>chads
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>>55112376
Didnt the Wolves have to let the inquisition onto Fenris? If so lol. Welcome to purge town.
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>>55112498
one of the two space wolf players at my lgs is a girl and the other is some ex-navy asian dude who has so many armies I don't really want to count him
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>>55112276
>>55112376
I'm curious about the TS fans. Did your hatred of wolves come because of the lore or is it more coincidental?

I remember starting in 40k thinking that space ghost armor Egyptians with magic was cool and baby blueish gray mohawk guys who have to name everything wolf and don't wear helmets were fucking stupid.

It wasn't until later I discovered the fluff so I'm wondering if I was alone.
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>>55112491
Yes but cons have been and always will be 3pts for guys with their stat line and relative leadership compared to other guardsmen that can take orders
They'll nerf them in a different way then
>lol let's make them 5 pts and bs 6+ now and not count as <regements>
Screencap if you want, he'll I wouldn't be surprised if they just didn't let some regiments take them for one reason or another
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>>55112498
I know it's a meme but have you ever met a furry space wolf player?
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>>55112566
By playing a furry army you become a furry. Same as MLPfags play MLP colored army
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>>55110137
>>Death Guard preview
>http://imgur.com/a/90wRO

so i take it, no new models for deathguard O_o, or is it common for WD to not advertise models released in the month?

not counting the 3 plague marines for 40 dollars, cause fuck that.
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>>55112599
oh god i just saw that mortarion is coming out this month and is 140 dollars, i hope he sucks.
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>>55112537
the fluff is annoying because the space wolves get away with a lot
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>>55112599
WD only covers the first 2 weeks of a month.
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>>55112599
There are a bunch of new models coming. We are still a couple weeks out though and I guess they're focusing on Morty for now. DG will be a multi-week release like the Primaris were.
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>>55112599
>All the new marines and termies are mono-pose

Holy shit
This trainwreck is too fucking funny
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>>55112537
My hatred of the wolves only came about after the 5th edition Wolves codex. The WOLF retardation really is too much to take seriously.

Also jaws of the world wolf was fucking broken.
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>>55112599
Admech wont get shit which means new DG units going into pre-order the 16th and released the week after that.
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>>55112537
I don't really hate Space Wolves personally, it's more of a slight meme. I don't really like them either though, with how stupid they've become with the whole wolfwolfwolf junk plus some of the Space Wolves players I've met being total weirdos or complete assholes, though I haven't met many yet so that may be why.
>>55112599
Did you not read any of the text, anon? Did you not look at anything at all? Even cheetahfag reads a little, though not much at all.
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>>55112666
reading is for fags and nerds.
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>>55110354
They're going with "Lazy bastard" covers

The covers for:

Grey Knights 7th & 8th, CSM 7th & 8th, Tau 6th & 7th, and AdMec 7th & 8th are all the same
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>>55112678
So why aren't you reading?
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>>55112537

I hated them for no distinct reason before I knew the fluff, and liked tge Sons before I knew their fluff. I think it's just clashing tastes at they're basic origins. Sophistication vs barbarism.
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>>55112703
>implying im reading
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>>55111332
>Only edgelord DEfags think DE are cool
I like dark eldar because they're at peak capacity dick dastardly tier evil, where it wraps back into silliness (to heal we TORTURE people). Plus the models are beat and the fanart is cute.
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>>55112659
I doubt they'll release the DG units a week after the codex, on the day the AdMech codex releases.
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>>55112650
>The WOLF retardation really is too much to take seriously.
You mean you dont like this aesthetic?
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>>55112289
Daaaaamn son I've yet to see any of those good catch man.
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>>55112719
Luth is the fucking best. His drawings always look so soft.
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Morty's angel wings >>>> Morty's bug wings
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>Morty Sept 16

lmao, way to miss your entire attack on ultramar campaign chump
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>>55112755
Its getting really hard to take this campaign seriously.
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>>55110326
Luckily for me, my elites slots are all trueborn and sslyth, though I might convert up some grotesque
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>>55112727
>jet chariot
Shit like this is why I love 40k, it has an engine, you can see the jets, it can hover so it's obviously capable of self propulsion.
But this madman at the reigns decided that wasn't enough and had to have it pulled into battle by giant not-wolves.
>>55112768
I stopped taking it seriously before week 3 ended, but my store is doing weekly sales based on models that fit the weekly theme as long as they're not on the direct range.
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I noticed the novel Black Legion mentions Beast Men loads.

Beasties getting a proper 40k release?
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>>55112794
Never, beast men mutants working for chaos has been a thing since forever.
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>>55112794
We've already got Tzaangors with guns so why not?
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>>55112740
which completely negates the appeal of Lelith Hesperax

also he draws her with a low-cut thong which is very unsexy
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>>55112740
Yeah he does good work
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There been any hints at what Orks are going to get in their book? I just picked up the game again having not played since 2nd Ed.
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>>55112773
Lucky lucky. I really dig incubi and mandrakes models though.
PLASTIC ONES WHEN?!
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>>55112719
>Plus the models are beat
Context tells me this means cool, but what does "beat" mean?
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>>55112834
klan tiktaks
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>>55112836
Hopefully with our codex. There's 2 sets of finecast incubi for $36 on ebay right now and it's taking all my willpower not to buy them.
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>>55112818
>low cut thong
>unsexy
So you play Dark Angels?
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>>55112834
Some guy was pretending to be a tester the other day, but I totally wish he was legit.
That one of the Klans get to take one Looted Vehicle from any other faction and override some of the rules to make them Orkish if needed.
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>>55112678
>you will never get to rail a nerdy trap until he ahegaos

40k is merely my escape from this painful existence.
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>>55112789
>Shit like this is why I love 40k
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>>55112852
low-cut makes hips look narrower and make the body look brick-shaped
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>>55112850
Buy them in hopes of an announcement soon after! Do it for your fellow Archons Anon!
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>>55112841
Wiktionary says it's either 'ugly' or gay slang for 'fabulous' (which is surprisingly plausible)
Probably a typo on 'neat' though
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>>55112812
Still need Bloodgors, Pestigors, and a BM fanboy group for Slaanesh....Rapegors?
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>>55112841
It means I'm phone posting and meant to say neat
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>>55112863
Over the top stupid shit entertains me, if I wanted realism I'd play LOTR
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>>55112883
>>55112876
Ahh, makes sense
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>>55112824
>>55112740
Does he have a tumblr?
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>>55112882

Slaangor - come on my dude.
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>>55112882

Slaangors and Khorngors - WHFB had names for these fellas.
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>>55112842
done similar to the space marine chapters thing I imagine?
>>55112858
awesome
Too bad it says vehicle though. I always loved the looted carnifex.
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>>55110137
What the flyin frick am I supposed to do with my Archon in a 500 point list? I cant take a Venom just for him (as vain and hilarious as it would be) but I dont want him wandering the board while all my units in transports get to do the real shit. Just feels like a wasted 70 points.
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>>55112864
>low-cut makes hips look narrower

That's why you just give them broodmother hips
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>>55112882
Slaanesh has a beastgor group, they're called Slaangors.
The Khorne ones are called Khorngors.
This is canon and I don't know why.
Anyway Tzaangors are bird-like goatmen, Pestigors are cancer goatmen, Khorngors are dog-like goatmen, and Slaangors are bull-like goatmen which are nearly impossible to tell apart from minotaurs aside from their size.
Warhammer minotaurs are usually really buff and thicc, while Slaangors are lanky as fuck for a minotauresque beastman.
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So last I heard, Relic was begging and scraping for people to stop fleeing DoW3 like rats from a sinking ship; has it stopped being a shitty meme game yet? I want to know if I should cash in this 50% off coupon I got from Steam.
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>>55112882
>and a BM fanboy group for Slaanesh....Rapegors?

GOR-GORS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQHmKNd1WRU
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>>55112914
yeah GW confirmed every faction will get a Chapter Tactics equivalent, Legion Tactics for CSM, no idea what Daemons will get but most guesswork is already done for the other factions.
Hive Fleet Tactics, Forge World Tactics, etc
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>>55112898
Dunno, does have a deviant art though
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>>55111757
Better drill dat rifle
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>>55112963
>o idea what Daemons will get

Probably nothing new as the "Demons of..." is already their CT equivalent.
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>>55112576
You didn't answer his question.

Spouting dumbfuck memes isn't an answer.
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so writing stuff for 'your dudes' here renegade space marine warband. originally these dudes were founded by some of the thriced cursed traitors but much of their bulk is a mix of both exiled/stranded/deserter astartes and guardsman from various chapters/regiment. they are like the dog-shelter of people who dont wanna serve either side (big E or chaos) and use that to their advantage by culminating all the various tactics of the different units into their own and then sell it to whoever can pay for their service

is it massive gay or nah
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>>55112929
What's the rest of the list, you should be able to drop a kabalite somewhere to fit him on a boat
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>>55112965
Inquisition Ordos?
>Ordos Chronos
>Once per game reset the game state to the first turn, all destroyed Ordos Chronos units may be redeployed
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>>55112748
You could always slap some angel wings on a FW Morty model. I think it's about the same size.
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>>55112863
If you aren't here for the overtop lunacy then please fucking leave.
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>>55112978
That's more hard baked into their rules though, I imagine mono god detachments will get some chapter tactics equivalent
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>>55112941
Should've just gone DoW1 remake, people are too fickle and divided when it comes to 40k vidya
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>>55112963
>Hive Fleet Tactics

What? I've my own color scheme for the bugs.
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>>55112999
Rest of the list is a Squad of Trueborn with 2 splinter cannons and a blaster, a squad of Kabalite warriors with 1 blaster, 2 Venoms with Splinter cannons and a Razorwing Jetfighter
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>>55112978
But they can't do anything right now.
Even if you get turn one and advance across the board with sheer horde numbers you're at a huge disadvantage against any army with any amount of speed and guns.
We need warp storm and daemon wargear back, at the moment the only use for daemons is to be summoned by CSM.
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>>55113011

I doubt it - GKs got nothing. Some armies have their CT baked in.
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>>55112963
Hmm. I'm guessing from reading the thread the chapter tactics thing is generally accepted as a good thing, except it appears to be badly balanced.

Well, here's hoping the Blood Axe Clan gets some genuinely smart tiktaks.
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>>55113019
You don't have to use the same color scheme to use the tactics.
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>>55112990
>>55113020
Sorry I saw trips and got distracted!
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>>55113019
Then you get to pick whichever tactic suits your Hive Fleet best, or you can make one up if you just play casually and your friends are cool with it.
>>55113026
It unbalances armies that have a codex against armies that don't have a codex, but with this being FAQ edition and the Chapter Approved being released the balance shift won't always be in favour of the same army the whole edition.
Mostly people like the tactics because they like the tactics they got.
Personally I'm annoyed that my EC tactic is just a copy paste of the Slaanesh daemons ability.
>my joking half baked tiktaks title stuck
fuck yes
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>>55112405
Playing [insert faction here] should do it.
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>>55113024
>>55112963
>>55112978

If you got the <Placeholder> slots, you'll get CTs. Like Tau with <Sept>, Orks with <Klans>, Necrons with <Dynasty> in index.
SM had <Chapter> while CSM had <Legion>, so they got CTs.
Admech have <Forge World> and they are confirmed for CTs too. GKs did not so no CTs
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>>55113020
Drop a kabalite and take them as an understrength squad, put the Archon in their venom
>>55113026
>Well, here's hoping the Blood Axe Clan gets some genuinely smart tiktaks.
They're going to get the Raven guard tactics no doubt
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>>55112576
Stop shouting memes and grow a brain
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>>55113068
listen here you little shit
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>>55113097
Oh shit, I didnt know you could take under-strength squads. sorry if my newfag is showing.
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>>55112551
Honestly removing their <regiment> will fuck their shit in terms of mobility and killiness, plus when the IG codex drops they'll fuck up a Regiment detachment
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>>55113074
Well daemons need something.
As we are we're shit.
They dropped the price of every basic daemon besides horrors in the CSM codex by 2 points.
That means 10 daemonettes is 20 points cheaper than it was at the start of edition.
But we still need wargear, psychic powers, and greater daemons that aren't just beatsticks that get gunned down by fucking lascannons on turn 1.
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>>55113035
Oh thank gods. I've painted so many....

And I still don't think I have 2000 points
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>>55113113
Yep. Dark Eldar are a pain like that with their unit sizes and troop transports so you'll get used to odd sized squads
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>>55112941
It's a meme game and a total failure. Sucks cause the gameplay isn't terrible. They spent so much on marketing for nothing though.
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>>55113024
>GKs got nothing

They literally get +1 to all cast and deny attempts if they're battleforged, that's their CT and it's better than most marine ones.
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>>55113097
>Raven guard tactics
See, this is what i'm worried about most for the whole thing. If there just ends up being like a dozen or so templates for tactics, with a handful being used per race, that just sucks.

That said, shoota boyz/flash gits getting -1 on rolls against them in the shooting phase, and being able to deep strike nobz for command points sounds fucking amazing.
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>>55113204
Wait really? Thats fucking insane.
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>>55113204

I understand that - I meant in the context of further specialization. No <Brotherhood> or anything of that nature.
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>>55113217
This is one of the things I hate the most about 8th. Different subtractions don't feel unique. Everything is just repeats of various "reroll 1s" and "infiltrate"
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>>55113236
their <Chapter> is Grey Knights how the fuck would they specialise? they're already specialists
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>>55113217
>If there just ends up being like a dozen or so templates for tactics, with a handful being used per race, that just sucks
I'm sure it will be, with probably one or two unique ones per faction.

This isn't a bad thing. They're easier to balance and most of them are broad enough in scope that they can be used as fluff for various factions. Trying to make completely unique snowflake rules for each and every sub faction would be a terrible idea, especially when a lot just make sense as they are (like RG for blood axes)
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>>55113236
That would be weird, considering special companies in chapters are usually represented with chapter specific units (Paladins, purifiers, sword brethren, etc)

>>55113230
Yeah it's pretty good
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>>55113268

I was responding to the fellow who was talking about every army getting a further <Tactic>. I'm not advocating for them to get further specialization - just making the point that not EVERY army will get a further form of <Tactic> particularly regarding armies like Chaos Demons.
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>>55113311
But, Grey Knights did, like he said, Grey Knights got +1 to psychic tests, that's their chapter tactic.
It's just the chapter itself got a whole codex to itself.
I'm sure Deathguard and Thousand Sons will be formatted similarly.
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>>55111783
>BT are on a chart.
>Therefore all melee chapters on a chart are basically BT.
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>>55113327

Jesus Christ you dense motherfucker. I am not fucking complaining about what GK got nor do I not understand they are a book about one chapter. I am using them to prove the point that not all fucking armies will have further sub specialization - some books have their specialization by virtue of what they are. I get that. Shut the fuck up for fuck's sake.
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>>55113331
>"why can't GW make chapters that aren't like BT"
>"here use this chart of chapters that includes BT"
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>>55110508
would smash for the emperor. you got to make more soritas and scions some way.
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>>55113378
Well you worded it wrongly then.
>not everyone will get chapter tactic equivalent, Grey Knights didn't!
>yes they did
>NOT WHAT I MEANT GOD FUCKING RETARDS
consider suicide if you're going to get mad at people for your own fuck ups
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>>55112971
It's a rough mockup m8
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>>55113331

If you actually read the conversation/possessed a shred of reading comprehension, you'd realize how stupid it is to link a chart full of chapters and successors that share all the traits being complained about. If someone is looking for a chart with no BT, no BA/DA/Khorne successors, and melee specialists, why would you list a chart full of BA/DA successors, BT, and non-melee specialists? What fucking use is that? How about you link a chart with melee specialists instead?
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>>55113413

I tried to respond without being angry but I apparently you're too damn dense to get anything that doesn't involve curse words.
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>>55110137
My chapter uses White Scar tactics due to begin pure infantry. I was looking to use Aggressors. What gun is generally more useful for them: boltstorm or flamestorm gauntlets?
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>>55113423
No you just worded it poorly which caused me to infer you didn't know what you were talking about.
>GK's got nothing.
Your words fucko.
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>>55113441

No I said

>I doubt it - GKs got nothing. Some armies have their CT baked in.

Note the 'CT baked in' part - I noted that they had a CT built in to their army.
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>>55113473
So you did, fair enough then.
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>>55113429
I'd go with boltstorm
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>>55111700
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>>55111700

>kroot now come in squads of 10
>still sold in boxes of 16

Necron warriors come in squads of 10-20, and are sold in boxes of 12, plus 3 scarabs, which are a completely separate unit.
Its been this was since 3rd.
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>>55111700
>buy 5 boxes
>6 units of kroot
the system works
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>>55113500
Any reason why? Not questioning you, just trying to better learn why things are chosen for what reason. I'm a pretty new player
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>>55112818
>also he draws her with a low-cut thong which is very unsexy
Ah, true patrician taste. Congrats anon.
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>>55110704
>Orks
>Killed by Black Templar

I wouldn't. I'd put it as a two sentence blurb in something about Ordo Chronos' corrupted data records buried in as inconsequential a book as possible. "383.M88: A remnant of the Black Templar claim to have killed the last orkoid in the galaxy. But the horrors that have filled the void of their passing have proven far, far worse."
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>>55113569
The extra range mostly, I think it's a big help on a unit built around being able to run and gun or double tap as the situation requires. Flamestorm makes for scary overwatch but is easier for your opponent to work around
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>>55112898
Google bolter to kokoro. There's a facebook page.
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Also asked in WIP:

I've finished base painting my raider, is it worth doing an all-over wash, or because it's mostly flat panels just wash the metal floor with nuln or something, and maybe hit the grooves with my usual shade?
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>>55112727
ngl this is so dumb it's awesome
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>>55113653
Just paint in the grooves. Flat panels do not look good with an all over wash.
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>>55112727
I wish they just went for space viking over WOLF WOLF WOLF WOLF.
I probably wouldn't hate them if they did.
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Depends on how you're painting them. These were done with allover washes. I just made sure to move the wash around evenly before it started drying.
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What is the best weapon to give intercessors? I have Ravenwing and deathwing armies, so which would be the best that I could easily put into either list? I was thinking the stalkers for more ground troops for the deathwing and more backfield troops for the Ravenwing, or should I just stick with the basic bolt rifle?
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>>55113653
Don't do full panel, you'll probably want to shoot yourself in the end if you do.
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>>55113729
Holy hell, that looks amazing.
Tell me your secrets.

Also, how did you get the sails so nice and white? I've only got a black primer so I went with that, so I'm worried.
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>>55113707
I remember when they started fleshing out the space wolves in the 2nd ed era white dwarfs they were pretty neat, with an okay mix of Viking and will stuff. Shame they tipped the scales so hard
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>>55111964
That one on the left is using the sander all wrong. Going back and forth over a small area like that is going to make the floor surface uneven.

These dorks are total amateurs.
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>>55113784
GW can't into moderation
40k is turn everything to 41 cause 11 isn't enough
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>>55113766
It took me forever to paint them. I had to stop multiple times while highlighting the panels or I was gonna go postal. So my secret, I guess was uhh...frequent breaks?

Sails were primed black, too. I used the blessed paint Celestra Gray. 2-3 coats of that shit lets you paint any white/offwhite in a few layers. So I did 2-3 thin ass coats of Celestra, then built up the actual white with Vallejo Glacier Blue.
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>>55113745
Basic is generally considered the best. Stalkers could be nice but 1 shot just isn't worth it even with AP- scout sniper are better, and in general Scouts are better than every other troop.
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Is there an easy method to painting Nurglings? I feel like they're incredibly small and I'm having trouble being as it's the first model I've painted. Once I got to the layering part I've found it very hard not to paint in the creases or accidently get some in the stomach holes. Any tips? Or do I just have to keep practicing?
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Still have 56 points left to spend but overall thoughts?

Alpha Legion Battalion
>Chaos Lord w/Jump Pack - Combi-plasma, Power Axe
>Chaos Sorcerer w/Jump Pack - Combi-bolter, Force Stave
>10x Cultists
>10x Cultists
>10x Cultists
>8x Khorne Berzerkers - 8x Chainsword, 7x Chainaxe, Power Fist, Icon of Wrath
>8x Khorne Berzerkers - 8x Chainsword, 7x Chainaxe, Power Fist, Icon of Wrath
>5x Chaos Terminators - 5x Combi-plasma, 5x Power Axe
>3x Obliterators

Iron Warriors Battalion
>Winged Demon Prince - 2x Malefic Talons
>Chaos Lord - Combi-bolter
>10x Cultists
>10x Cultists
>10x Cultists
>Helbrute - Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher
>Helbrute - Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher
>Helbrute - Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher

General notes:

Lord and Sorcerer (Warp Time & Prescience) will drop and support the terminators (Mark of Slaanesh for double tap)
Both Zerker units will infiltrate
Winged Prince is WL with Fleshmetal and Unholy Fortitude - Mark of Slaanesh w/Delightful Agonies
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>>55113905
Washes and drybrushing is all you need
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>S4
>T4
>WS 3+
>2A
>Choppas give extra attack
>reroll charges
>Practically Fearless in large numbers
>6 ppm
Ork boyz are pretty crazy.
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>>55113905
I have a friend who got really really bored and lazy while painting his forge world great unclean one.
Now obviously the scale is different but it turned out okay and I think if you just adjust the scale it might work.
He sprayed the base coat, painted it with the layer he wanted, then tipped the fucking wash over the top of it's head and used his brush to spread the wash all over it before moving onto details.
You can probably just give the Nurglings little eyes and a different colour tongue for their details.
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Has there been any credible leaks for the codex release schedule? Been away awhile.
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>>55113839
Wait, blue?
As in, you put on grey, then some of the blue, then white over the top, or is that actually a blue paint?
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>>55113956
Waiting to see what Codex 6 is to fully confirm or throw out the most popular rumour.
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>>55113956
There was one guy, been right up until now but one week off each time.

Tyranid/Blood Angels double release later this year.
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how many points is the eldar start collecting boxset?
i have a friend that im trying to get into 40k and hes interested in the eldar
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>>55113926
Appreciate the tip anon, I'll pick up some dry paint in the morning.

>>55113952
Are you suggesting I go Base -> Layer -> Wash -> Details?
The way l've done it is Base -> Wash -> Layer and the layering is where I'm having the issues because I don't think I'm precise enough.
Thanks for the tip tho just would like some elaboration
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>>55113988
According to that leak when do space wolves get some love
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>>55114029
I'm just reciting the way he did it and it came out looking surprisingly good.
Not sure if he got lucky or what.
The wash kind of blended the layers together with a kind of rotten, "this is all just dead flesh falling off" look that really suits his great unclean one.
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>>55114050
SM: July 29th
CSM+GK: August 19th
DG: September 23rd
T'AU+AM: October 7th
TYRANID+BA: November 11th
NECRONS+TS: December 9th

No Space Wolves.
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>>55112629
>more expensive than a Knight

How can GW be so far up their own arse?

>2 monopose optionless characters cost more than a landraider

Meanwhile the Chaos Terminator Lord costs half as much and comes with gallons of options. It's my all time favourite kit.
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>>55114084
Magnus is 130
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>>55114003
bout 370 before wargear. It's a weird box
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So for a legion trait to work, every unit in the detachment needs to have <legion> set to the exact same legion? If I have units without a legion in the detachment does that nullify the bonus?
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>>55113745
Basic bolt rifles with a AGL and power sword.
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>>55114061
Ah I see, I've got a lot of little Nurglings that I could easily test it on. Thanks for the idea!
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>>55114132
>It's a weird box
how so?
it looks noticeable smaller in terms of models than the rest of the start collecting boxes but then again i dont know shit about eldar
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>>55114136
Yes. They must all have <legion>.
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>>55114078
Fuckin tau get a codex thats gross
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>>55113429
Boltstorm, last night I posted a whole analysis of the points efficiency of aggressors, which tl;dr they're sickeningly killy for how small their cost is

Couple that with being able to (with WS tactics) advance around 7+D6" while still dumping bolter shots, shits great
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>>55114078
are they really going to tease DG stuff for another month before releasing the codex?
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>>55114084
>How can GW be so far up their own arse?
GW prices are weird. Some kits like Scourges are actually really cheap and bins with lots of options, then you've got things like the lord of change which, while a nice looking, big model, is hugely overpriced
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>>55114078
Sooner Tau gets a dex, sooner FoC releases
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>>55114136
Well sort of.
Fabulous Bill and units with the FALLEN keyword have a clause that states they can be added to a Legion detachment without the rest of the detachment losing their legion bonuses.
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>>55112902
The KISS makeup really brings the whole thing together.
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>>55114152
ok thanks
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>>55114156
Guess I missed it by one night, but thank you for the insight. I had just heard how good flamers are this edition so I was wondering if they'd work better with White Scars based chapters
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Fabby B experimenting on a 30man blob of Tzaangors.

Yay or Nay?
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>>55114163
No, anon. That's not actually what it is. Did you not read the DG previews and such in the imgur link?
Sept 9th is Mechanicus and DG preorder dates. Sept 16th is release. A while still, but not as bad as you think.
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>>55113429
Boltstorm. Although White Scars Agressors are very fast you often don't want to charge straight at the enemy. Boltstorm lets you try to use you speed to hold at around 18" of the enemy and put out more firepower. Flamestorm is more the preferred option of Ultramarines since they can fallback and still fire the flamers.
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>>55113969
It's a VERY light periwinkle. Like the color of this board's background, but even whiter.
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>>55113074
That's mildly weird from a fluff standpoint, considering that as much as I enjoy giving Marines players shit about their delusions of a different paintjob meaning they're actually meaningfully differentiated subfactions, Chapters really are given more focus than stuff like Hive Fleets or Klanz, and especially Dinasties or Septs. Then again, these probably won't get unique Relics and Stratagems and such.
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>>55114146
Most SC boxes give you some decent vanilla stuff most armies of your faction would use in some capacity. The Eldar one is just bikes, which aren't bad but aren't going to be in every list by a long shot, and a fire prism which is bad.

Normally two SC boxes gives you a solid army view with a few extra toys. That one is all toys, no core, more like a supplement for an existing force.
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>>55114183
Flamers are better for Ultras.
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>>55114194
I skimmed the previews and missed the preorder dates. The 16th is annoying but not as bad as I thought
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NOVA this week, GW confirmed they'll share stuff. Probably DG on the show floor.

>>55114154
umad :^)
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>>55113236
Come on anon-kun, don't be a retard. GW is pretending shiny magic marines are different enough to vanilla marines to warrant their own codex, but don't push it.
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>>55114188
I mean, they have the keywords so you can?
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>>55114198
>>55114221
I see. I would love to field the flamers but the added mobility from White Scars tactics is essential to me since I field no vehicles. Thanks
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>>55114226
Yes I mad my space vikings need love
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>>55114154
They're a major faction, my friend.
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>>55114078
>TYRANID+BA: November 11th
Timed with the Devastation of Baal novel? I guess that makes sense.
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>>55114164
The argument I heard from a redshirt is that people will buy less characters in total, so they need to make them more expensive.

But people would buy more of them if they put actual options in the box. Once again I feel the need to point to the Terminator Lord, which is actually a dual kit that can be made into a Sorcerer as well because GW included 3 additonal parts. Can you imagine if instead of 4 different primaris character boxes they'd made one box with enough torsos, heads, and arms to make any of the 4? Hell, what about a Captain/Librarian/Chaplin box and an Apothecary/Lieutenant/Ancient box. That would have been amazing and maybe worth the cost.
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>>55110137
i need halp. how into freehand skulls pls
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>>55114280
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Redemptor Dread

Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon or Macro Plasma Incinerator?

My gut tells me that plasma is better due to the fact that you can kill elite infantry as well as vehicles and monsters.

The gatling cannon is only good against horde infantry.
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>>55114320
magnet that shit and never worry about decisions like this
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>>55114252
>Playing the snowflake yiffs
brb gonna throw up

>>55114270
Huh, that does seem like it'd make a bunch of sense, I didn't even know that novel was coming out.
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>>55114304
yea i'm about to remove the attempt alltogether. fuck trying to fix it.

maybe i can find a decal sheet somwehre. should i keep that eye of horus? (probably not)
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>>55114326
it's a decision about list building and strategy, not about how to assemble a model
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Is there an FAQ that explains that FNP esque abilities are used on each point of damage?

I pointed out to my friend that you roll to wound, roll save, roll damage because that does "wounds", then roll FNP-esque stuff because that prevents "wounds"

But he wasn't having it
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>>55114336
The eye of horus is janky but not as irreparably bad as the skull. Show your decals.
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>>55110502
Nice screwdriver
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>>55114354
Ask about list building advice, without posting a list....
wtf kind of answer would you expect

magnetize the damn thing and use which option is best against whichever opponent, he was still fucking right.
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>>55114391
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>>55114404
to be fair, many units cater to one direction over another
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>>55114183
Flamers are fine but they don't actually put damage the boltstorms by a huge margin

Their real utility is that they're horrifying anti melee roadblocks, especially when they don't move. if you don't move, you can reliably kill 28 orks in overwatch. They're absurd.
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>>55112748
just slap some griffon wings on the new one when he comes out
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>>55114404
>magnetize the damn thing and use which option is best against whichever opponent

Because no factions have hordes AND vehicles/monsters.
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>>55114380
i need to find some first
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>>55114320
Heavy onslaughts better against everything T5 or below

Macro plasmas okay but the heavy onslaught combos with the rest of the redemptors weapons well

You also don't need a magnet to swap the guns on the model, they're fully swappable out of the box
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>>55114514
Lol
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>>55114514
what the fuck even happened here?
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>>55114514
How did it even come to this
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>>55114514
Get your shit together anon!.
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>>55114581
This Polynesian bodypainting forum is surprisingly hard to figure out the macros for.
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>>55112727
Is the food chain on Fenris just people and wolves? serious post
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>>55114699
don't forget all the dangerous sea creatures and other things on the death world trying to eat you
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>>55114699
No it's just people, the wolves are also people
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>>55114514

You fucking disaster
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>>55112133
Savage ork guy does some pretty great non-weathered schemes. This doesn't really look like her painting, however, as it's not quite bright enough.
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>>55114768

>>55114363
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So I'm never painted before. >Yes I know thin your paints.

I'm going to paint a guardsmen model. What do i do?
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