MtG Ixalan Previews

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Interesting

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Yaaass

>>55103493
The way it's worded...if there are no other creatures or artifact the game ends in a draw...right?

>>55103536
what?

>>55103536
Yes

>>55103591
no other targets to exile, has to exile itself, it leaves the battlefield, returns itself to the battlefield, no other targets to exile...forever

>>55103591
you are forced to exile a target, if it's the only legal target it will exile itself, the second part of the effect will make it return to the battlefield, causing the ETB to trigger again causing an endless loop.
If either player can't remove it or put another creature/artifact on the battlefield at instant speed the game will end in a draw.

>>55103536
>impact tremors + this for OTK
i meme it

grixis ETB instakill

>>55103681
what if there are other legale targets on the battlefield but you choose to exile it every single time? can you end the game in a draw voluntarily?

>>55103493
just be happy spell queller is rotating. queller, gonti, and this makes an obnoxious shell.

>>55103713
You get a game loss for slow play

>>55103473
>>55103493
>>55103525
the flavor is on point in this set

women love to plunder and destroy

>>55103716
wasteland strangler too...
i know what i'll be playing in frontier.

>>55103741

It's a human thing.

>>55103536
even if there are, as long as you're getting something out of the etb can't you just pick her anyways?

>>55103741
So insightful anon, my brain is swelling with knowledge as we speak. I pray that it doesn't cause undue pressure on my skull, all the thinking this post has really made me do.

>>55103536
That is exactly what happens.

>>55103713
If you can break the loop with a choice within the loop, you are required to break it at some point. You can do the loop because it has an end state and just state how many iterations of the loop you're doing (say, for impact tremors kills as >>55103707 mentioned)

However, you do need another target to terminate the loop and get all the impact tremors triggers to resolve.

>>55103809
eyyyy

>>55103810
>t1 island
>t2 mountain, IT
>t3 (insert thing here)
>t4 hostage taker win the game

>>55103767
This is the set after which we should remove khans and m15 from the format like it was meant to be. [Origins -> Now] is so very clearly what this cardpool is made for.

Fetchlands are a cancer of the format and it's the japs fault.

>>55103845
killing your turn 3 play still forces a draw which is better than a loss.

>>55103870
>fetchlands are a cancer of the format
Fetches with fetchable duals is the cancer. But starting from Origins also kills Collected Company which was the tier 0 frontier deck that killed the format. So I'm okay with this.

>>55103473
>female pirates
a woman on a ship is bad luck

I always consider people whining about the evil SJWs ridiculous, but come on this is the lamest marketing attempt towards women/minorities since anything Marvel comics does.

>>55103473
Of course, male pirates are problematic

>>55104076
>exile IT with triggers on the stack

>ETB>trigger>Exile>ETB...
depending on how that works it could still work

or just play commander and play a mana rock, no one will suspect a thing

Stop with your retarded discussion, the card is erratted.

https://twitter.com/EliShffrn/status/902187390063714306

>>55103493
They did this on purpose, right? To see how people will use the endless triggers it can provide

You're allowed to declare that you have a certain card in your hand, yeah? Tell your opponent that you have it and hold the game itself hostage under the threat of infinite looping till timeout. The ultimate in-flavor card.

>>55104164
How would that be a threat? Your opponent is not obligated to take anything you say as truth until you prove it so they would just go on playing the game like normal and you would look like a fucking moron.

Also you're still a fucking moron, see >>55104138

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>>55103473

Finally a set I can relate to

>>55104206
It would be a threat because the opponent is presumably there to play the game and hopefully win, not sit there watching a card bounce in and out until a draw happened. They can call the bluff if they want. Bluffs are still threats, even if you can't or won't follow through.
Also, Twitter isn't the official errata. Until there's actually errata, this is how the card is.

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>>55103473
>>55103493

>Pirates with a gold, white and blue color scheme
>Uniforms freshly washed and pressed

Just doesn't seem that pirate-like.

>>55104262
He could just call the judge when you do it and then the judge would rule that the game is a draw, there is no need to sit there and watch it happen you twit

>>55104138
now i'm legit sad

>>55104215
your joke isn't funny in the other thread and it's not funny here

I hope there's skeletons.

>>55104264
>Dinosaurs with vibrant coats of feathers

Just doesn't seem that dinosaur-like
It's a fantasy world, not everything has to be the same as it was in previous fiction

>>55103473
>pirate women
>led by a sexy gorgon

Nope, sorry. Can't be angry about this.

>>55104280
Still a draw and not a win. Also not a real game, assuming the player isn't a joyless twit who doesn't even like the act of playing.

Are we really not going to talk about the 1 drop enchant that draws a card whenever an opponent targets a creature? Thats the best card revealed in the set so far

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And Jace is riding along with them?

>>55104337
>I was only pretending to be retarded

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Is there any reason for this card to exist?

>>55104352
I literally just explained it. Draws aren't wins. Draws because of a card bouncing on turn three aren't real games. Both of those are negative outcomes.

>>55104373
Amonkhet hate in standard

>>55104383
And the Magic Rules Manager has since stated the card has been/will be errata'ed upon release so your entire scenario is completely pointless yet here you are still harping on about how "clever" you are. Kill yourself

>>55104373
Lots of graveyard stuff in standard and they don't want to reprint relic or something strong like that.

>>55103493
>Wayne Reynolds
Fuck, I thought they'd stopped using him

>>55104345
No, it was just an illusion.

>>55103870
>starting the format from precisely when Standard started actively going to shit

>>55104345
Jace with Doubling Season out lets you make a infinite Jace harem.

>>55103493
Flavor fail you just steal the card it isnt actually a hostage

>>55104444
checked and noted. jace a cute.

>>55103473
>>55103493
>>55103525
>3 cards 4 women so far

>>55104138
guess you now need two of those to IT everyone

or just play it in UB bounce if you are boring like that

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Why is this card mythic? Why is a fucking rowdy crew mythic on the goddamn pirate (& others) plane. Are you telling me that the majority of pirate crews on this plane aren't rowdy? Because if that's what we're getting then I want off.

It doesn't even do anything that crazy, complex or interesting as a mechanic, it just kinda takes 4 steps to resolve its ability (draw, discard, check type, add counters). Sure its strong and they like putting pushed their creatures at mythic, but it just looks so boring.

>>55104309
>feathered dinosaurs
>fiction

Anon....

>>55104643
F I C T I O N
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>>55104642
It doesn't even look that strong.
Discard at random makes it unreliable as fuck

>>55104642
>Why is this card mythic

I appreciate it when mythics are shit. If a card is going to be a chase rare then at least just leave it at rare

>>55103473
maybe they wanted somthign similar to the fat pirate lady from one piece. you know the one with the massive iron mace thing that shows up in the in the first few chapters

>>55103473
Not just the captains. All the pirates are women. Almost as if Wizards are trying to tell us something about the nature of the fairer sex.

>>55104345
GUESS WHO'S BACK
BACK AGAIN
JACE IS BACK
TELL A FRIEND

>>55104642
This would be a really fun uncommon in limited, but apparently wizards hates fun

>>55104727
I guess i was just thinking of all the ways you could get upside from this. 4 mana 5/5 trample, draw 3, pitch 2 cards you wanted into the GY? You'd really have to build around this one and it feels like it'd be better at home in Innistrad with a creature type change.

>>55104642
This would definitely be mythic worthy if only the discard wasn't random...

>>55104458
Stockholm syndrome

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>>55104345
that ultimate doesn't make any sense and also clash with the uniqueness planeswalker rule

>>55104949
planeswalker uniqueness rule is gone, all planeswalkers are getting erreta'd to be legendary.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ixalan-mechanics?

>>55103473
>3 colors in standard
>fetch or shock reprints incoming
Wew lad

>>55104949
all planeswalkers are legendary now.

>>55104642
4 mana 5/5 draw 3 discard 2 at random wouldnt be that good even if it was always a 5/5. I'm glad its overcosted too, game deciding rng doesnt belong in mtg

>>55104345
>Jace fights Bolas
>Ends up with a harem of dommy pirate women and copies of himself

Is Bolas the good guy now?

>>55104345
I thought this fucker died? What happened?

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>>55104997
Eventually they will find the real one when it's time for Snu-Snu.

>>55104949

>he doesn't know

>>55104345

wew

i think i need a moment there

>>55105021
guess bolas didnt mentaly retardify jace enough, either that or there is a person on ixalan that has really good mind powers. either way id cosider it smooth sailing if i got stuck on a ship of pirate women and they all liked me.

>>55105021
If he had died, then they wouldn't have anyone to put in that slot for the gatewatch reunion movie.

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>>55105029
no, I don't and I'd rather I didn't know

>>55105021
He escaped with his mind falling to bits. He's probably amnesiac.

>>55105021
Bolas turned into the BBEG, so the jacetice league just teleported back to town so they could level up some more before fighting him again in return to almondkek in 2023

>>55105102
>>55104973

>>55104973
The enrage mechanic could be interesting, id put money on there being decent dinos at rare or mythic and/or a dino driver who taps to whip creatures for 1 damage

>>55105169
>Deal 1 damage to target creature. It gains haste until end of turn.

>>55104807
>4 mana 5/5 trampler that replaces itself
>uncommon

thank god these people don't work at wizards

>>55104461

>Day 4
>Linvala and Tocatli on the field,
>yesterday he played eidolon of rhetoric and spirit of the labrinth
>suddenly I heard some cardboard move
>autustic control player bolts upright from his sleep
>"WHO'S CASTING A SPELL?"
>He reaches down his pants and pulls out a remand
>There's shit all over the top of it
>Throws it at the player to his right
>Player tries to leave, but the rope around his chair is too tight

>>55105169
just watch them printing a dinosaur with "enrage: your creatures get a +1/+1 counter" to make an infinite combo with walking ballista

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>>55105169
>>55105208
>Dino Driver, You've been down too long in the midnight sea
>Oh what's becoming of me…

>>55103473
>>55103493
>>55103525
>>55104642
Why are American so pathetic?

hearthstone already has pirates

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>Meanwhile, in ixalan/kaladesh standard

>>55103493
>>55103536

They errata'd it already
https://twitter.com/EliShffrn/status/902187390063714306

>>55105289
They're bored. No other country can compete on any level. They are literally levelling up their weakest characters now because there's no challenge to playing their strong ones.

this set already looks like shit

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Why are all the pirates niggers and women

>>55103953
I am sure Anne Bonny would agree anon

>>55105417
Because only women and niggers lie, cheat and steal to get what they want = Pirates
Also the women are all non binary, expect a flip card female pirate who can flip to a male pirate during your upkeep the flip side will most definitely be a white color identity

why pirate female ooga booga

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>>55105417
They aren't.
Beside, look at OP pic. Does it look like a women? Fuck no, it looks like Gérard Depardieu with fancy clothes.

>>55104345
what the actual fuck

this cant be real

>>55105481
Jesus christ those rares, they better reprint big money chase foil "treasures" or this thing is going right In the toilet, its dragons maze: the block

>>55105529
Welcome to standard

>>55105488
>Jace, Beefcake Wizard

Should there be a campaign complaining about how jace is now sexualized and is an unfair standard of what boys and wizards need to look like?

Magic: the SJW Pandering

>>55105529
Well we havnt seen everything. There was also a claim somewhere of a reprint nobody was expecting

>>55105371

>Functional errata on a card before it even comes out because they were too stupid to realize it'd go infinite on an empty board.

R&D Dropped the ball hard.

>>55105543
I understand how low powered standard is but how long can wizards realistically pay a few bucks for a booster with a 95% chance of getting a 30c rare on release day

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>>55105595
>yfw they reprint pirate ship
>nobody expected it

>>55105481
on a side note, i really like ruin raider

>feathered Dinos
>women poc pirates
>twink jace
>even more transform and vehicles

Is this the most cuck set created?

>>55105371
The errata is for dorks that can't into comprehensive rules.

611.2b Some continuous effects generated by the resolution of a spell or ability have durations worded “for as long as . . . .” If the “for as long as” duration never starts, or it ends before the moment the effect would first be applied, the effect does nothing. It doesn’t start and immediately stop again, and it doesn’t last forever.

this set looks fucking retarded, definitely skipping this one

>>55105663
please god

>>55105718
The rule you posted isn't relevant to the as-printed Hostage Taker. If Hostage Taker exiles itself, that means the triggered ability has resolved. The duration has started, and it doesn't end until immediately after the effect is applied.

>>55105715
How the heck are feathered dinos vehicles and dfcs cuck?

I hate wizard so much.
Chase mythics and rares are bad, but trash mythics and rares are even worse.
I sure do love being the guy in prerelease who opened up rowdy pirates ( or worse ) as their promo card. Meanwhile several assholes open up the few bomb rares and planeswalkers and sweep the whole store because WotC is too stupid to realize "unplayable rares == someone is going to open it in sealed"

>>55105844
How do you make rares that aren't chase or junk?

>>55105844
at this point i'd just let MtG start to die for real so that hasbro hopefully fires some people and hopefully fixes this shit game

>>55105886
By stop designing sets to be balanced around low power level limiteds.
Increase the power level of limited and the power level of rares will naturally follow,

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>>55105663
Pirate ship is reserved. However if there are grixis pirates...

>>55103493
At least Reynolds is back.

>>55106054
It was reprinted in time spiral, I guess some reserve list cards are less reserved than others

Everyone but Jace being women wouldn't be so bad if the women were at least attractive.

>>55105529
There's no masterpieces in Ixalan.
Yup, no treasures in the pirate set, because WotC marketing are geniuses.

>>55106186
>every character must be attractive

>>55106266
Marketing 101, don't make uggos the flagship characters

>>55106310
Samut wants a word with you
Even bolas was more attractive than that nappy headed nigger

>>55106370
That's just your opinion
Why do racists always think everyone else shares their inherent revulsion to black people?

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>>55106425
>wew lad

>>55106370
>Even bolas was more attractive than that nappy headed nigger
To be fair, "It's fucking Bolas" was the entire reason I was even remotely invested in Amonkhet

>>55104264
There seem to be multiple pirate factions.

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>>55103473

C U T E
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>>55106425
I'm not a racist and I think Samut is fuckugly. Check yourself faggot.

>>55106605
Not an argument.

Racists think blacks are ugly because they are black.

And since anon used the term n*gger I assumed that he was one of those "blacks are ugly because they are black and I hate blacks" nazis.

>>55106603
L O O T
O
O
T

Wasnt there a gold vampire legend too? They didnt formally reveal it.

>>55106603
>"They'll never see me coming"
Honest quote is honest
>unzips

>>55106627
Using the word nigger doesnt make you racist either. Go be a faggot somewhere else.

>>55103473
Angarth's Fucking Marauders disproves your statement. Did you even bother to look at the cards before posting?

>>55106653
>using a racial slur doesn't make you racist

Neither is saying "kill all white people" then because there is no racial slur for white people so it's the next best thing

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>>55106548
>Nicole Bolas

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>>55103473

BEST ART

ALSO MY NEW VAMPFU

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>>55106425
Samut makes my dick shrivel every time I look at her art, meanwhile this qt 3.14 is forever a nobody.

>>55106713
>Nicole Bolas will never mind and body rape you
Why live?

>>55106649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcnWAzwEd6o
>tfw no Count of Monte Cristo legendary

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>Vampires
>Dinosaurs
>Pirates
>Vehicles
>DFCs
Man, this is looking like it will be pure fun, compared to Amonkhet and Innistrad's grimdarks

>>55104345
Really? Really...? Planeswalkers already have the 'no two of the same planeswalker name can be on the field as they will be removed from play' and now they add LEGENDARY PLANESWALKER to it?! What? If they both happen to have the same name then you'll have to remove them from the building?!

Why don't they focus on other planeswalkers? There are a lot of interesting concepts they can think of other than Jayce or Ajani.

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>for when you really hate some cracka

>>55106689
Check yourself before you wreck yourself on all that edge

maybe try picking a fight with a real life supremacist instead of having triggered triggers firing in your brain to declare yourself a shit-dicked faggot

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>>55106689
I know you are just baiting for (you)s but please, magic is sjw enough as it is, go back to /pol/

>>55106767
Now that's a mythic

>>55104345
Jace looks toned; not really beefy or anything, but hes got enough muscle to at least throw a punch
>mfw I wanted a feral jace running around eating people

>>55106689
Limey, wop, mick, toad, kraut... take your pick you double nigger.

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>>55106603
YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

>all the power goes into a handful or rares and mythics
>no notable reprints
>wizards will wonder why this doesnt sell

>>55106792
That's not a racial slur for white people, those are ethnic slurs.

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heh

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>>55103473
"Captain Angrath" is male.

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>>55103473

Medusa.

>>55105481
prosperous pirates looks like a fun card for janky blinking strategies.

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>>55103473

Alternate Wincon

>>55106755
Planeswalker uniqueness rule is gone and replaced by the legendary rule entirely on planeswalkers. This is good because it condenses the amount of random one off rules into one and theres not a ton of difference in practice.

>>55106853
Vraska a QT.

>>55106811
It's the best you can get if you're really need a slur for whitey.

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>>55106755
>Tap all the gideons

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>No one taking about Pseudo-Cascade on every spell you cast

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>>55103473

Good green rare that is going to fuck your shit up

>>55105805
because feathered dinos cuck scalefags

>>55106689
This is good bait

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>>55104345
>hey guis we here your complaints about the gatewatch and will be dialing them back starting in Hours
>JACES FOR EVERYONE :DDDDDD

Never trust a Rosewater.

>>55106923
Ive read this and re read it a few times and I still have no fucking idea what you said

MaRo and friends always talk about making designs that resonate flavor-wise with the audience because they are the magic version of a real world story/legend/character. If they don't make a MALE blackbeard equivalent, then I will be fucking pissed.

No natives will be shown in pain or being killed in the art at all. screencap this.

>>55106987
feathered dinos trigger furries (scalies) because its harder for them to jack off

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>>55106893
What a mythic. It's both mechanically complex AND important to the story.

>>55106959
It's just Jace, not the rest.

>>55106884
Would a tapped planeswalker still be able to use its abilities?

>>55107053
Yes

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>>55106893
Oh yes. This is the midrange Bogles core we've all been waiting fo-
>Mythic

BUT WHY

>>55107016
lol no fag

>>55107019
Fair enough, thanks

>>55107016
>screencap this.
Sooner screencap anon saying "water will be wet tomorrow." Wizards' mantra has been "Social Justice is the real Magic™" for years now. Make a prediction that has some chance of not coming true and we'll talk.

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>>55106893
umm... sweetie

>>55107016
>All female pirates not having beards and a peg leg
>one job wizards

>>55106893
blue players deserve to be bullied

>>55106767
Why is this not, "Destroy all Lands target player controls"? It's meant to represent the fucking meteor that hit Earth and kicked off the dinosaur extinction. The crater itself is so large it took scientists a few hundred years to find it (because most of the crater itself is in the Gulf of Mexico).

>>55107168
You should be lucky it destroys ONE land. No doubt this will hurt too many feelings and be the only piece of LD printed for another year.

>>55106627
> if you think blacks are ugly you are a nazi

ayo hol up

>>55106893
>>55107126

One less green mana, uncounterable, and bumped up to mythic. I get that it would destroy limited, but it does not feel like a mythic.

>>55107043
boy is your face going to be red when that dino helps jace rediscover his self and sails to find the one piece with him

>>55107208
Yeah, nevermind that it's a hardcore boardwipe and whoever is using it is probably running the cascade enchantment and getting a huge dino afterwards that will win them the game anyway.

>>55107235
Yeah. Flavorwise it feels like a rare. For it to be a Mythic it would at least have ro be some super special spirit dinosaur that's part of some elite bodyguard of the Sun king with his name on it or something.

The flavortext makes it sound like this is just some thing they dump out every battle.

Imagine a set without Planeswalkers

>>55107238
I'd buy a box of Ixalan if that happens. Mark my words.

>>55107286
imagine a set without MaRo

>>55107244
Except whatever you get with the pseudo cascade will resolve before the boardwipe does.

Gee I hope all the bad guys are white male pirates

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>>55106716
That's way better than the other art, I'm so happy.

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>>55107286
>>55107311
Beauty indescribable.

>>55107299
>Plot twist
The dino is actually polymorphed nissa and jace gets it on with her hybrid elf/dino form
>fanfic go

Explore seems like a better ability than RnD is thinking it is. At its best it's draw a card, at it's WORST it gives the card +1/+1 and essentially scrys
I don't know how that's not busted

>>55106716
Why this card and sanguine sacrament(the spell that gives you x double Life point) give me a buddhist spiritual undertone?
The sacrament card had a sort of asian script in the vampire despicted.

>all the angels are women
>literally nobody gave a fuck
>a few pirates are women
>KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK
Really makes me think

>people hating on the "fuck blue" T-Rex

>>55107388
Cause its tacked onto 2/2 etb vanillas mostly. I do like it though, tons of potential

>>55107427
That's still great in limited though

>>55106885
Kind of pricey though

>>55107441
I mean. A 5 mana cost sorcery kill spell is good in limited. I would love to see an EDH worthy explore engine, or a modern playable low to the ground explore creature

>>55107422
Its due to the history of piracy has very few notable women. They usually played the roles of whores, prostitutes, and the daughters of governors. Piracy was a man's world, and any deviation from that is seen as wrong.

>>55107408
the armor, colored chinky eyes and the vaguely buddhist staff
art is one fucking point though

>>55107286
>Wizards creates a set without planeswalkers
>Makes the set shitty on purpose
>Sales decline, obviously
>"No one is buying the set! This is obviously because it doesn't have any planeswalkers!"
>In subsequent sets all the best cards are now planeswalkers
You know that this is what would happen.

Herald of Secret Streams seems like it could be very fucking busted this set
Especially considering that improvise and metallic mimic are still in standard

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>>55107377
SCARY MONSTERS!

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>>55107472
Even Disney is making similar changes.

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/29/auction-scene-in-disneylands-pirates-of-the-caribbean-to-no-longer-auction-brides/

>>55107490
"Research shows that not every deck runs planeswalkers, but every deck does run land!"
Maro: "you know what must be done"
"Introducing our first land planeswalker! Rocky the sentient rock"

>>55107530
>Disney
yeah...

>>55107531
Still waiting for Dryad Arbor shit.
What was it future shifted from?!

>>55107377
>jace gets it on with her hybrid elf/dino form
yay, furry shit

>>55107472
>angels depicted as men, monsters, and women in history
>all women in mtg
>no screeching outrage at this
Really makes me think

>>55107554
it's never going to happen until every player can tell you exactly what happens when blood moon and dryad arbor are out at once

>>55107577
>A game made by westerners use the form of angels most known in their culture
>angels
>history
You really here's your you'd.

>>55107422
>>55107577
>angels are supernatural manifestations of mana who can be whatever the fuck
>pirates are normal people in an occupation that is historically masculine and violent yet somehow women are dominant on this plane

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>>55107577
Well one was an aesthetic decision that turned into an odd tradition and a quick of the setting, the other is appeasement to an aggressively vocal political agenda that demands quotas without actually ever giving any solid numbers, so that probably has something to do with it.

>>55107472
I'd say piracy has more notable women compared to a lot of other things that have been depicted as women in MTG. Literally the only issue is that we don't have a single male legendary pirate, and even that's a stretch. Plus, that isnt even accurate, since we're getting a male pirate planeswalker captian, who is arguably going to be even more relevant in the long term.

>>55107648
this is seriously like a tumblr tier outrage

>there are more female pirates than male pirates in the 20 cards that have been spoiled

oh no how can we put a stop to this calamity

>>55107648
>implying angels aren't pandering
>much warrior women
You fucking inbred retards should have jumped ship righr then

>>55107736
I'm just discussing the push for diversity across the game, the industry as a whole, and corporate culture in-general.

>>55107743
>Constructs of pure mana can't be warriors because female form.
Here's your (You).

>>55107803
>>I'm just discussing the push for diversity across the game, the industry as a whole, and corporate culture in-general.

and i'm saying that complaining about in the context of this MtG set is tumblr-tier outrage culture

>>55107803
>I'm just discussing the politics of games rather than actual games

Oh well then, I'm sure this thread will come to meaningful conclusions and have valuable dialogue that has a real impact on the world and not be a reeeing pointless shitshow like every other of the thousands of identical b8 threads

>>55107843
I think it's the wider context that bothers people so much. If the whole diversity thing wasn't made out to be a big issue by both sides, no one would care.

>>55107863
Right, why do that when we could go back to the same talking points about the steady decline of the franchise due to the ineptitude of its creators? It'll be a much more productive discussion that way.

>>55103525
Did they really need to specify "colorless" artifact token?

>>55107931
colored artifacts exist so yes

>>55106869
Well well hello black edh card

>>55104373
Budget sideboard against modern storm

>white getting more support this set
>blue getting shit
feels bad man

>>55107908
>>Right, why do that when we could go back to the same talking points about the steady decline of the franchise due to the ineptitude of its creators? It'll be a much more productive discussion that way.

this is a board for discussing traditional games, such as magic: the gathering. it is not a board for discussing current politics. however, i think there is a board for that kind of discussion on this very website, so maybe you should go there to start a discussion

>>55105121
Again.
This is the what...third time?

>>55108036
/pol/ is a shitflinging board

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Ahoy mateys
Granny pirates off the starboard bow
>Poop.dec

>>55108113
so dont bring that shit here

>>55107019
Isn't that a good thing, though?

>>55108141
i'm not the other guy

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>>55106719
>Forever nobody
Well some "socially conciouss" commentors got incredibly peeved how this card is horribly racist and is literally destroying the self-esteem of black people looking at magic cards everywhere because the central character has a slightly less dark complexion

>>55108255
you're not my guy, friend?

>>55106853
God this card is bad.

>>55108184
yeah, the only thing based about this set. i fucking love dinos

>>55108267
Looks like a good limited removal card. Except it's a fucking rare

>>55106877
And with mirror gallery it means that walker decks just got a WHOLE lot more power

>>55108346
oh fucking christ
mirror gallery control anyone?

>>55108346
I really doubt mirror gallery pw decks will raise above tier 4 jank levels

>>55103473
Is that an old lady pirate captain?

Holy shit, that's actually great.

>>55107311
Kamigawa block is literally this.
And I'm not talking about the flavor.

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>>55106853
>When they think they can get good removal but we staple some emaningless lifegain on it instead
What can stop this trend, /tg/ ?

>>55106716
>>55107359
>Mfw vampires are looking to be the best part of block
I honestly didn't except it. But considering that pirates seem to be aggroy and natives being all about muh dinosaurs they might take the cake if art is anything to go by

>>55104373
Grixis and Storm hate that doesn't screw over your graveyard or death-matters like RIP does.

>>55104461
Hushwing Griffith and Torpor Orb already exist. Does this mean we can make a viable Hunted Horror deck?

>>55106884
>Leyline of Singularity
>all nonland permanents stay sideways

>>55107422
>>55107577
Really triggers my Eidolon

>>55108113
Politics is shitflinging. What did you expect? People getting together to figure out who gets what in an orderly and polite fashion?

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>>55103473
So side with the Dinosaurs. Nobody gives a fuck about their gender politics. We only ask that they be monstrous engines of killing.

Praise Based Gishath.

>>55108662
>there are people who think feathered dinosaurs are lame

this shit looks rad as fuck

my compliments to the artist

>>55108662
Spinosaurus tribal when.

>>55106627
>since anon used the term n*gger

Where do you think you are, nigger?

>>55106054
Pirate Ship isn't reserved. It was in multiple coresets beyond 2E.

>>55106603
What the fuck is this doing in the rare slot.

>>55108716
of course it's awesome, cause it's not a total feather duster dino like some artists do. Enough feathers to give it some real color an style, without completely smothering the MUTHAH FUCKIN T-REX that lay within

>>55103473

Oh fuck it's big mom.

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>explore mechanic doesn't play the land

th-thanks for making sure i don't have *too* much fun, wizards...

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>>55108716
>Literally, Central America/Caribbean: the Block
>people surprised when it contains brightly colored birdlizards

>>55107324
the evil vampires are all white males

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Where
The
Fuck
Are
The
MERFOLK

Don't tell me this is going to be yet another "all humans all the time" plane. We just got done with three of those back to fucking back. I swear to god I'd think someone at Wizards had fallen for the DEUS VULT meme except that that would be entirely too much shitlordery for HR to tolerate.

>>55108949
cant have cards actually be good anon, then people will play it in formats other than standard which would actually give sets monetary value. that would clearly not be good for new players :^)

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>>55106548
>female empowered pirates are dupes for the God-Pharaoh
What did they mean with this, /tg?

>>55108036
Then why are you not discussing traditional games in your post?

>>55109239
kill yourself

>>55106893
Anyone else feels like this set's design of rare/mythics is just boring compared to other sets?
The legendary cards don't anything special, other than the new Jace. Most of them just seem like tweaked versions of already existing cards.

>>55109227
The people that push for diversity most aggressively tend not to be very good at it.

>Source: All of Magic: the Gathering

>>55109239
because he is a retard that wants to avoid the fact that traditional games are under siege from liberals to water them down

>>55106689
>no racial slur for white people
>what is cracker
>what is gwailo

>>55109339
So like every other modern set?

>>55109227
Modern feminism is nothing but a shock group of neo-marxism.
It fits.

>>55109048
Don't worry, there's Merfolk coming.

>mono-green merfolk

>>55104345
>the virgin old jace
>the chad new jace

>>55104752
WotC is telling us something about the nature of Jace.
His are all the piratesses, and this time he has the power to clone himself to plunder all the booty simultaneously.

what should I buy to get the most value out of this set?

>>55109048
>Amonkhet
>All humans all the time
That's bullshit and you know it

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>>55109048

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>>55109339
They are boring partly because we've already seen them for months.

>>55109320
Ladies first.

>>55105595
>>55106054
What if >>55109683 ?

>>55108828
Really powerful in limited. Probably bumped up to rare to reduce it's frequency there.

>>55109443
>neo-marxism
:^)

>>55109622
White vampires, green merfolk, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!

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>>55108263
It was their black consultant that bite them in the ass. Give these people an inch they will take the company.

>>55110016
Eh, we've gotten mono-white and mono-black merfolk before, and they've been Hybrid with Green a bunch already. At least their racial outlook isnt in heavy conflict like it is with White's selflessness and Vampire's inherent need to drink blood.

The only color I couldn't see working well paired with Merfolk is mountains, and even that could be worked towards.

>>55106425
Samut is objectively disgusting and exists the most ubaesthetic traits of the KANGZ phenotype.
To think otherwise is to admit a terminal case of jungle fever.

>>55110173
>just add color
>blue aliens called Biggers
>red aliens called Riggers
>yellow aliens called Yiggers
Wotc had to go with niggers

>>55110338
Actually, you're getting Riggers this December you big baby.

>>55110173
I'm still pissed that somehow North African == Black

It'd be like saying that all NAmerindians have the skin of Inuits, or of the Pueblo.
It'd be like saying that all Europeans are either Aryan Scandis or swarthy Meds.

>>55110393
I wonder if they have a fight self mechanic and beg for free mana handouts

>>55105718

This is literally the rule that makes the errata necessary, dumbass

>>55106850
I see tits tho

>>55110985
That's Angrath's marauder, not Angrath.

>>55110985
>current year
>implying xe cant have breasts and xhe cant have a penis
There are mote than 5 colors in magic, dont be so ignorant

>>55111128
That would be funnier if not for someone giving the actual response like 5 minutes before you posted.

>>55104997
>implying Jace the Cock Sculptor wouldn't just go literally fuck himself

>>55107244
Or they just put Ragged Veins or Binding Agony on one of your guys...

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>>55111265
>meanwhile back in amonket

>>55111355
Yeah, that's pretty much my point. The barest amount of setup will let you win with it anyway, so only blowing up one land feel kinda lamely tacked on.

>>55105289
When you run out of other people to beat on you start beating on yourself.

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>yfw black aggro is back

>>55106716
Do vampire shave the best cardfus?

>>55111900
>contol player wraths you
>flash this bad boy on end step
Boner

>>55111961
That would explain why none of the lady pirates have beards

>>55109741
>2/1 looter with unblockable that costs 3 per turn
>powerful in limited
mate what the fuck are you smoking? Invisible Stalker was infinitely better and he was a fucking uncommon.For the same mana cost I could play Azure mage, Coralhelm Guide, Riddlesmith, Screeching Skaab, Sky Weaver, or Sultai Skullkeeper and get the same body with a better draw effect or better evasion effect at fucking uncommon/common

>>55103473
>Doesn't make stolen cards into pirates.


LAAAME...

What started the fuckwittery that is this whole "hurr women and PoC need to be in fucking EVERYTHING (especially if it doesn't make any god damn sense)" in WotC?
Like how can one company get so whipped and what caused it? I am actually curious

>>55109741
>Really powerful in limited.
retard

>jace, the body sculptor

>>55112078
There were both women and black pirates. There's probably more justifaction here than there has been in any of the sets they've tried to push this in so far.

Like, why is this the one that people have decided to draw the line at? Can't have black pirates or lady pirates in the set it makes sense for, because we already had too many in the sets it made no sense for? I get the complaints for Innistrad and Theros, but really?

>>55112078
And why does it matter? Unless they're making the cards ultra-ugly, making the characters bland as hell, or going full Ghostbusters 2016 or worse, I wouldn't bother complaining about forced diversity until it actually causes more than just a petty dip in the quality of cards.
Besides, pirates don't give a shit about who you are as long as you can pull yourself together in a pinch.

>>55107472
Ching Shih, Anne Bonny

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>>55112170
We already have a black Pirate in Magic, he's gay too. I that is enough pandering already.

>>55112210
>Two (2)

wow

With all the Smack in this thread I bet it'll be a successful set.

>>55107286
>MaRo promises no planeswalkers for a set
>release cards called Advisors which are just planeswalkers without an ultimate ability

>>55106959
Have you read that card? It's fucking garbage

>>55108662
>not being excitede for trans-dinosaurs

>>55107843
This it's just a setting.

>>55112415
Michael Jackson is a pirate?

>>55107286

Imagine a format without planeswalkers.

>>55112429
>two legendary pirates in real life
>two legendary pirates in the set

Really activates my almonds. It's also still 200% more real life examples than most other things women have been depicted as in magic.

>>55107422

Angels being all women is perfectly fine because like 80%- 90% of angels in magic are sexy. That's just pandering to the audience. 0% of the female pirates are sexy, which makes it no longer okay. They need to reach that 80% minimum.

>>55104345
From the thumbnail I thought he was wearing a singe strap overalls.

And speaking of sexy, don't think I haven't noticed how you've been gradually turning Dryads from erotic tree women into formless moss monsters.

>>55113411
it's okay because they're shitty elementals

>>55112764
don't talk to me or my dinos ever again

>>55113098
Hell I will take 50% that's what I wanted from Amompkt, but instead we got 70% Kangz and most the qt Egyptian girls were on those shitty aftermath cards.

>>55110016
2017 is a wicked timeline

>>55110173
I actually feel bad for Maro sometimes, he has to deal with some retarded people. Like having to explain that they're not glorifying the conquistadors by making them literal blood-sucking vampires.

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>>55114265
I don't feel bad for him, they let the SJW walk all over them, they should take a note from Games WorkShop and give them feminist the middle finger.

>>55114447
That's a pretty terrible example to use if your goal is to be outraged.

>>55114447
>>55114497
Yeah, that's fairly weak senpai.

>>55114447
Anytime he speaks on behalf of the company, he has to speak for the company.
I hope that, one day when he retires, he lets slip what he really thought of various things going on.

What's kind of strange is all the supposed 'openness' and 'freedom of thought' is a ruse. If you don't share the same thoughts as SJWs, they rip into you just as hard, if not harder, than some die-hard KKK members would if you were arguing that niggers ain't so bad.

Some companies are aware SJWs are small-time and ignore them, others, perhaps to appear 'progressive,' bow to their every whim instead of just being, you know, actually open-minded about shit.

>>55114447
What did Games Workshop do?

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>>55114546
But that's the thing is that it's not working. I have 6 LGS close to me near a major american city. All this PC shit increased like a maybe a handful of white women to start playing. Most black teens rather and still do play Yu-Gi-Oh! cause they care more about anime tits then representation. And there is nothing wrong with something different, but we gone full hard shift. look at Inndistrad vs SOI, we went from huge cleave white women to fully covered black women. I just want a 50/50, ok so you get a black lesbian in this set, and then I get a big tited red head in the following set. To completely divorce yourself from the old Heavy Metal Level fantasy is insulting to the base of 20+ years.

>>55114551
Game Workshop told the SJW's to fuck off. If you want black imperial guard, paint them black, women can't be space marines, play SoS or SoB, and we are keeping slaanesh.

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>>55107490
Would a set purposefully designed to be shitty by Wizards be bad though? I mean they do think about this in relation to collectors after all. A shitty set for them would be full of reprints with high money cards and include cards from the highest regions of the Storm Scale. That's including stuff like Storm, Dredge, Tribal, Phasing, Fateseal, Delve, etc.