Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>55093714
>Received
Someone he cares for very much offered him some of their special blend of herbal drink. Tasted pretty good.

>Gave
Planning on making them a necklace, but all he had to give in return when he got his gift was love

>>55093946
>giving someone a necklace
Gaaaaaaay

>>55094853
It's the thought that counts, isn't it? I just thought it'd look good on them.

>>55095002
>thinking gay thoughts
Jeez dude. You getting gay married?

>>55096518
>gay married
A-anon, please! It's still so early in the relationship!
But it wouldn't be a gay marriage unless one of us falls afoul of a cursed girdle.

>>55093714
The last time he received a gift was probably when he learned to read.

>>55096720
Sounds pretty fucken gay. You should adopt, at least.

>>55099143
You know, that might actually be a necessity sooner than you'd expect. I'll take it under advisement.

>>55099307
How will adoption even come up in an adventure?

>>55099565
A need for an heir and a spare player character in case this one dies

>>55093714
Cute picture.

Life-extending bump.

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So I'm curious about how you would interpret gauntlets

"Gauntlet: This metal glove lets you deal lethal Damage rather than nonlethal Damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack. (...)"

The 'unarmed attack' reference comes from 3.5, which used that term mostly interchangably with Unarmed Strike.

So my interpretation is that when you attack with a gauntlet, you're technically using a weapon but the weapon's effect is basically "Counts as an unarmed strike." Things such as Weapon Focus: Unarmed Strike would also apply to Gauntlets, because a gauntlet attack is considered an unarmed strike.

Thoughts?

>>55093946
Your character sounds like a huge fucking dork!

>>55103796
Yeah normally punching someone is nonlethal damage, but if you got gaunts you deal lethal. Look at the monk, who gets to chose to deal lethal or non lethal as a part of its monk shit.

>>55103796
Punching with gauntlets lets you deal lethal damage, but it still draws AoO if your target is armed and other problems for non-monks trying to punch.

>>55104306
Spiked armor is the good work around

>>55099878
An heir? Are you some kind of fruity prince?

>>55107042
Not really. Just wanted to set up the "spare character" joke.

>>55103897
Well, he is rather tall and broad.
And dork is accurate.
That last one...well, I can't really say in a public forum.

>>55093714
Last Crystalhue, he gave his true love his heart. But the very next day, she gave it away.

>>55108574
This year, save yourself some tears. Give it to someone special.

Add a houserule to the official Pathfinder system. Others judge

>Those slain by Wights retain abilities and class levels

>>55108972
...What the fuck is it with you and wights?

>>55108245
You should give them the greatest gift of all, the dick in a box.

Alright boys, opinions time
What is the best adventure path?

>>55108993
What are you talking about?

>>55109050
Strange Aeons

>>55109056
There's been someone in /pfg/ the past couple days who's been going on and on about wights, apparently with the goal of either turning all the PCs into them, creating an army of wights, or simply becoming one himself.

>>55109080
That's not me but I do like the idea of an alternative, or in-between, for zombies and vampires

>>55093714
He gave a bracelet to his friend. It was a small matter, but the act of giving something he made held some significance to him.

Oh hey I'm glad this thread survived.

>>55109050
Iron Gods and Rise of the Runelords seem to be the only ones truly, truly worth a damn.

>>55109791
Jade Regent is really, extremely, absurdly good when you have the right DM for it.

An epic Journey to the East with a cast of memorable characters as you help a friend save an empire is downright magical.

Is there any way to make a cult that encourages mating with monsters (less-forced Esoteric Order of Dagon?) a (maybe secretly) popular religion in setting?

>>55109872
That's pretty much Lamashtu

>>55109872
>Is there any way to make a cult that encourages mating with monsters

You mean Lamashtu?

Is it possible to get a hydra mount?

>>55109872
That's straight up already a thing.

They even have a mask that makes people able to breed with whatever and you get freaky hybrids.

>>55109904
Ask your GM for a hydra mount?

>>55109888
>>55109887
I googled it, and mostly yes. But I can't think of any reasons to make it popular among humanoids though.

>>55109945
Any non- monsterous humanoids, I mean.

>>55109945
They're pervs. They want monster dick/pussy. They're crazy and believe that the holy fusion of man and monster will bring about a greater race.

>>55109961
>>55109945

People typically turn to Lamashtu because they're driven insane by her nightly visions, and others turn to Lamashtu because other Lamashtu cultists break them with regular applications of knotted cock lodged inside them. These are not pleasant people, and should be seen in the same manner you would see your typical Death Cultists from that level 1 adventure you ran one time.

>>55110037

People also turn to Lamashtu to *avoid* her attention, offering prayer and sacrifices so she leaves them alone.

Sometimes it even works.

>>55110105
Lamashtu's a lot like Lolth in that way.

>>55109904
Ask your GM to let you play a monster cowboy.

Speaking of Lamashtu, want to make a 4th level Cleric of Lamashtu named "The Bodybuilder"

She travels the world making fuck with monsters for Lamashtu's blessing.

There is a magic item from some splat book, I think it might have been the setting guide to Andoran. The item is basically one of those ear pieces you see CIA or Secret Service people wearing in movies to communicate with each other. I can't remember the name of the item though. Does anybody else know what I'm talking about?

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>>55109853
Honestly, until a certain game came along I was under the impression that Jade Regeant was the worst AP. I kinda want to play it just to see for myself but no one really runs it.

>>55110225
> Jade Regeant was the worst AP
Correction, one of the worst. It ranked consistently among shit like Second Darkness and Council of Thieves a few years ago.

>>55110225
It seems to be something like kingmaker, the kind of campaign that heavily relies on your GM's ability to play the NPCs and scenarios, as well as extra stuff, which means as-written it's probably shit.

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How would you structure a heist game? What kind of party roles and jobs do you think you'd want?

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>>55110360

>>55110413
Every day I regret the fact that I could never find a legitimate copy of that game to play with my friends.

>>55110413
>>55110741
Is that actually any good? I can't imagine so.

>>55107599
Make sure the next character is way manlier. None of this necklace stuff.

>>55110895
What if it's a pearl necklace?

>>55110933
Sounds pretty gay, senpai.

>>55110825
Probably not, but it's one of those things where if we take the mechanics from that, figure out what works and what doesn't, and then steal it for ourselves in other games, we could finally figure out how to roleplay intrigue.

>>55110825
>>55110988
I've never actually played it, but from reading through it it looked pretty good honestly. The head writer for Leverage is a huge RPG nerd which helps a lot, and the Leverage crews is basically already a modern D&D party.

Even if you don't steal the RPG taking the roles from the show is a real good way to start off. You can cut Mastermind out though since it doesn't work great for a multiplayer game.

>Its another Turvaks applies with an ambitious noble episode
Nearly every game this guy shows up in turns out to be a bamboozle. Whats up with this nigger anyway?

>>55111174
>Nearly every game this guy shows up in turns out to be a bamboozle.
What. I've applied to most pfg games, many of which have been games and others which have been bamboozles. With /pfg/'s boozle rate, sure, it's likely half or something, but not my fault in any way.
>Whats up with this nigger anyway?
I demand the more accurate ethnic-based derogative.

Somebody (once that you could) explain why occultist gets shafted with cantrips?

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>>55110413
>Leverage
>Not it's infinitely better British inspiration

>>55111360
>Average Shadowrun party.trid

>>55111271
Jesus christ with the self shilling dude.

Who's your favorite sub CR1 badguy to swarm PC's with?

>>55111417
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/npc-s/npc-0/alcoholic-fisherman-human-commoner-1/

>>55111360
Another reason why American mass media is shit: Can't let others have good stuff, need to make your own too to get some of that sweet money.

>>55111417
I'm partial to the Akata

>>55111431
>Feats Catch Off-Guard, Throw Anything

Stating mundane shit must be one of the most rewarding experiences of life.

>>55111399
Is it self-shilling if he clarifies himself, brah? Just sayin'...

>>55111417

Gnolls, most definitely. I wish they were a CR 1/2 like in 5e, or whatever they are, so I could swarm more on my lvl 1's.

>>55111450
I just get drunk and roll the bones. Whatever slips from my fingers is however much damage that particular item does. They aren't the only alcoholics at the table.

>>55109872
That depends, as others have already suggested you can do some re fluffing of lamashtu, but do you want it to be a 'good' order, as in something the PC's might engage with, or an antagonist?

2nd level magus about to face undead, which spells should I prepare?
0th level: Disrupt Undead
1st level: Chill Touch, Burning Hands
?

>>55111508

>Casters

Just hit it with your fucking axe.

>>55111579
>axe
Short sword for now
Still, I have to prepare something, tips?

>>55111508
At this level there is the risk of ghouls and their paralysis shit. I'd say just do the old arcane mark spellstrike/spellcombat shit and then fall back to disrupt undead beams for ghoulies.

>>55111647
Don't prepare cold damage, most undead are immune to it.Other than that prepare what most likely mages a bitch explode or make you hit better.

>>55111716
The witness's descriptions say "walking corpses, nor arrows nor swords seemed to slay", nothing more because he was pretty mental. We assume skeletons/zombies or a mix, but thanks for reminding me ghouls and their bullshit paralysis

>>55111508
Cure light wounds works as offensive and defensive simultaneously.

>>55111777
Magus don't get Cure spells silly.

Oh lord, I didn't realize quite how awful the verbal duel rules were until I read through them. You only add ranks and charisma modifier to a roll, nothing else? That makes it basically impossible to against anything but NPC's and monsters of lower level because of how many bonus points they get right? Forcing you to only add your modifiers to a select number of tactics and then making you take penalties for using them again also seems a touch weird.

would it be reasonable to ditch ability score boosting belts and shit and instead do something like Starfinder, where you can pick 4 different scores at once to increase at the appropriate levels (for PF, every 4th level) with the option to bump a single score by 2 no matter how high that particular score is? Something like

>Pick one ability score, increase it by 2
>Pick 3 other scores, if the score is 14 or less, increase it by 2, otherwise increase it by 1

I can only assume this breaks something somehow, but it still looks slightly less infuriating than ABP's method.

Hey unrelated question, what was that formula for determining how good a monster is at sex?

>>55112046
What's your issue with the way ABP handles ability score increases?

What rural jobs are best suited to tiefling, teen/children tieflings in particular?

>>55113093
logs for a pyre

>>55113093
Why wouldn't they be just as suited for a particular job as someone else? I mean, unless you're saying that because of them being a tiefling and getting some prejudice they would have a harder time finding a job, but that's not really an issue of how well suited they are for the work.

I guess the first thing that comes to mind would be a blacksmith's apprentice? They get Fire Resistance 5, after all.

>>55113078
my issue with ABP is broader than just how it handles ability scores, but in general just how goddamn slow it is, even if you bump the chart up by 2.

What happened to all the currently running games? Did any of them bamboozle?

How is Chalice running? Or ladyknights adventure? Did Essentia ever take off? Is ensoulment living up to it's fame? Is overlewd OVERlewd?

>>55113177
Anon, unless you're in a group that dishes out way too much gold for your level, if you get gold AND APB at the same time you're more likely than not getting the boosts at the same time you'd be able to afford them as well as being able to spend cash on other things.

>>55113232
Honestly, I almost feel like just replacing most of the shit the ABP chart tries to replace with generic treasure instead would be a better idea, have them blow the gold on bonuses that just become innate instead of a christmas tree.

>>55113226
>How is Chalice running?
Unknown

>Or ladyknights adventure?
Terrible and has already lost 2 players

>Did Essentia ever take off?
No

>Is ensoulment living up to it's fame?
No

>Is overlewd OVERlewd?
No

>>55113226
I think all of those games are running, except Chalice. Dragons 1&2 are still going, and so is FotJR and SotJR. Blingmaker is definitely running, we got a greentext from them last week. Not sure about Hell's Rebels.

>>55113314
>generic treasure

What, you mean money and gems they can just spend on stat ups? Personally, I like ABP because it makes all the bonuses innate to the characters. Makes them feel more like extra-powerful heroes than guys who were just rich enough to afford the swankiest gear.

>>55113226
All I can tell you is PLD is still running

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Do you ever think about those peaceful moments? The ones where you don't have to slaughter hundreds of goblins and kobolds, where there's no curse or disease spreading over the city, where there's no noble gone mad with power, and no evil cult of a forgotten god on the rise? What peaceful moments do you live for, pfg? What do you do when all is said and done, the swords are laid down, and soldiers return to their farms?

>>55113578
I drink in a bar with friends. Take a nap in a field. Babysit for friends. Feels good.

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>>55113641
No one waiting for your return across amber fields?

>>55113226
>Chalice
think it's dead, never talked about
>Ladyknights
nosedived as expected
>Essentia
bamboozled
>Ensoulment
also bamboozled
>Overlewd
never talked about, but can be assumed either dead or erp fest

>>55113674
>across amber fields?
>amber fields

[TRIGGERED]

>>55113682
Wait Ensoulment bamboozled? When did this happen?

>>55113699
It didn't. The person claiming it's a bamboozle is full of shit.

>>55113693
>TFW you realize it still hurts

>>55113699
It didn't.

We had a downtime session last week, so no greentext, and we're looking to have the first guest spot soon!

>>55113408
Hell's Rebels B has been on hiatus the last three weeks due to scheduling, but it'll be back this week.

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>>55113693
I'm not sure I get it.

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>>55113674
>>55113693
>>55113725

>>55113699
It didn't, it just turns out that high concept games full of conceited attention whores are boring so nobody cares any more.

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>>55113756
Why do fields get you so mad?

>>55113771
>t.Sour Grapes

>>55113578
>What do you do when all is said and done, the swords are laid down, and soldiers return to their farms?

I'm setting sail and coming home.

>>55113771
Honestly this, /pfg/ always seemed more interested in the setting than Protag's philosophy wankfest and the fact that people here have largely stopped caring about the game bears that out

>>55113865
Nice try, but I didn't even apply for that one. I saw this shit coming a mile away.

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>>55113929
I cared more about the philosophy wankfest.

>>55113945
It's funny, how in the month leading up to it, /pfg/ was filled with people interested in talking about the campaign and apps. But the moment picks were announced, it got filled with people who " didn't even apply for that one" yet still had strong feelings about the players, the characters, the GM, and the game itself.

Really tickles the brain.

>>55113968
>But the moment picks were announced, it got filled with people who " didn't even apply for that one" yet still had strong feelings about the players, the characters, the GM, and the game itself.
It's almost as if you attention whores posting non-stop about how great your characters were made people hate both the characters and players.

Really activates those almonds.

>>55114007
Are there even players that don't self-shill? I can't imagine people actually care about applicants that aren't themselves.

>>55114045
>Are there even players that don't self-shill?

Quite a few of them don't self-shill.

>>55114007
I'll take "Things that never happened for $500 Alex."

Seriously Anon, which is more pathetic, being salty about trying and falling short, or being salty about something that never even involved you?

>>55114052
Like who. Name five.

>>55113674
Unfortunately, no. He died some time ago, and I haven't met another. Maybe someday, I will find somebody who's smile sings of sunflowers and a love never-ending once more.

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Would a mercenary or brigandine band have children and their wives, legitimate of captured as spoils of war, living together and doing jobs in their camp? How many children are they likely to produce if they got wives with them?

>>55114073
>Would a mercenary or brigandine band have children and their wives, legitimate of captured as spoils of war, living together and doing jobs in their camp?

Of course they would, and they'd be making as many children as their wives could handle.

>>55114062
>thinking something is boring means I'm salty
Come on now, Disk, this line of argument is disingenuous even for you.

>>55114045
Of course. You don't see much about them because they aren't shilling themselves.

>>55114096
You're angry enough to make a post. Clearly you care more than most.

>>55114064
Pretty much everybody who applies to /pfg/ games frequently who continue to be literal whos.

>>55114113
Fuck off with this highschool shit.

>>55114113
I'll take "Reaching because I don't actually have an argument for $1000, Alex."

>>55114142
>S A L T

Please Anon, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>55114064
Isn't the fact that it's hard to name them proof that they don't? Or are we trying to list people who are celebs who don't self-shill?

>>55114120
Nice try. But that ain't five. Not to mention those literally whos don't even fucking matter. They don't get into games. You app losers are all fucking self shills.

>>55113578
I sit quietly in the endless expanse of my demiplane. For a time I ponder over my actions as my hand idly touches the topaz embedded on my pyhlactery. It is not a particularly elegant stone, but I was never considered to be an elegant person. There is enough to think now that the threat has been vanquished and the affairs of my past life has been sorted.

I am tempted to scry on what I left behind, my potent divinations can pierce the barriers between planes after all. My hand, lifeless but eternally preserved begins to move as I recall the incantations but only for a moment before I stop myself. No, do to so would be inappropriate and would would risk attention to my plans. My comrades, are happy with their retirement and my simulacrum has successful taken my place at my family's side.

The feeling subsides and I am freed from my trance. I stand up, patting away the motes of dust that has accumulated during this brief distraction. I have given up much but in doing so have gained eternity. This threat may have been over but it is only a matter of time before another one begins and I must begin my preparations.

>>55114162
>celebs who don't self-shill
Is such a thing even possible?

>>55114195
No.

>>55114195
even the most obscure have self-shilled, even if only once

>>55111492
I think I can come up with some ideas to make it antagonistic. But for 'good' one I'll need some help - ideas, etc

>>55114161
>/pfg/ is one person
Anon, that was the fist post I've made in this entire conversation. I'm sorry if you're so triggered by being called out for acting like a spoiled child because somebody dares to disagree with you. Good luck growing up one day.

>>55114230
Who is your favorite one-time self-shiller? Do you think they feel ashamed about it?

>>55114256
2hu

>>55114249
>calling names
>LUL U TRIGGERED

Anon, buddy boy, screeching about being triggered doesn't win the argument. 'specially if you're the only one acting like their triggered.

Are frost bombs viable in a demon themed campaign at 8+? I'd rather have force bombs but I need that 8th level discovery slot for fast bombs.

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So I'm kinda curious, does anyone actually use Unchained Barbarian over regular Barbarian? How have people handled it before? What's a good way to work with it? Would you let a "chained" Barbarian take UBarb rage powers and vice-versa?

>>55114317
Unchained Barbarian is a strict downgrade. It exists because paizo though math was too hard for the sort of fucking simpleton that plays a barbarian.

God, something as simple as salmonella poisoning has made me realize diseases could be a lot more debilitating than they're presented in the mechanics.

>>55114399
So could having a major organ ripped out. Go figure.

>>55114399
Dysentery and Cholera were bad news back in ye olden days. Nothing quite like shitting yourself to death.

>>55114399
Same with poison

>>55114399
Tetanus buddy
Google opisthotonos

>>55114317
>>55114389
It's better for builds that aren't 'hello this is my giant two-handed weapon', at least generally. I like it since it's just better designed (THP vs. boost to con score) but if you're playing Barby McBarberson the original one is better.

>>55114399
The thing about diseases and poisons is that generally speaking what makes them so debilitating is the way they overload your system through sheer overdose. Diseases in particular aren't really THAT big of a deal if you get a couple germs in your system, but when you're, for example, on an adventure in a sewer, swimming in filth and getting garbage literally in your veins, if your GM only makes you roll for getting a disease once and then never again once you've made that save then of course it's going to be underwhelming.

>>55114518
Yep that's why fighting poisonous shit is so nasty. It bites/stings you and you make that first check... and then you make another check each time it does it, and then you start making checks against it every subsequent increment that needs to be made

Even a tiny viper, you're making a dc9 save for 1d2 con, each time it bites you, and if you fail you make it once more each round for 6 rounds until you pass.

>>55114543
Not to mention more doses in your system ups the DC until it becomes literally impossible to succeed except on a crit success.

>>55114543
Actually I fucked up the rules there, mostly because I confused them with blights from darkest dungeon. Poisons are a bit less deadly in PF in how they stack. +2 dc and +1/2 duration each subsequent application, but curing cleanses all stacks.

>>55114566
And with shit like con damage vs fort save, if you fail that first save on your +4 roll vs dc9... your +4 roll is now a +3, which makes it easier to fail that second save because it's now a +3 save vs a dc11, then a +2save vs a dc13.

>>55113226
Chalice is running, I'm confirming this as a player. We lost one player due to pacing issues, though, but the DM is trying to fix those pacing issues.
Essentia took off and I regularly talk with people who play in it, though not a player myself.

Well you guys, I am unbelievably bored so that means it's time to offer a late-night thread game with the Pathfinder bestiary! Anyone who wants to participate start me off by rolling a d11.

>>55114843
nah, fuck off sigh

>>55115002
Don't be salty about me flipping you the bird well over a month ago Vult, I've moved on and so should you.

>>55115054
I'm not vult though.

>>55115066
That's exactly what Vult would say, though.

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I think this general could stand to chill out.

>>55115114
He's also literally the only person I left the Cabal on bad terms with to my knowledge, soooo.

>>55115114
Oh yeah? Well its also exactly what someone who wasn't vult would say!

>>55115129
No, somebody who wasn't Vult would just walk away instead of replying incessantly because they don't have any reason to defend the reputation of a moronic crybully.

>>55115152
I mean, don't get me wrong, Vult is a piece of shit.

But Sigh is garbage too

>>55115129
>>55115152
You fucks keep talking about this cunt, and then wonder why he has such a fucking ego about his games and himself.

>>55115160
fair point

>>55115160
I always assume that Vult is all three sides of any conversation about him.

>>55115161
If he's a shit, don't fucking talk about him, just blackball him and ignore his ass. I swear, you people don't get this shit.

So my GM brought an enemy who was complete bullshit. I need people to confirm how fucking bullshit this is.

>we're in a city ruled over by a guy called "Saint Hortut Mett, Saint of Bells, Masks, and Theatergoing"
>we end up having to fight him, we're an evil party and this guy is a NG head honcho
>we are fighting him because he called us out and is threatening to burn every ship in the harbor to keep us here
>for reference we're relatively famous villains (level 9) and we're on an island
>we don't have any access to teleporting at least until next level when our sorcerer hits 10th
>we decide to make a break for it and go for the harbor before the time he specified to fight him for the keys to the vault (what we came here for)
>he was waiting at the docks
>said to us "I expected cowards to run, perhaps you all should fight like men rather than run like dogs." (so first of all he's a huge piece of shit)
>has a giant mallet
>spins it around and goes to strike something
>out GM says a spectral bell appears
>GM said the sound hits us, we all have to make fort saves
>we take sonic damage, everyone who failed gets blasted back and takes bludgeoning when they hit something
>all the glass in like 10 blocks breaks so now everything is covered in broken glass
>the saint is unaffected apparently
>he begins a bardic performance (I don't think he is a bard though, best we could guess he was a oracle, GM said he is using a custom 'theater' mystery)

(1/2)

>>55115200
>suddenly we're surrounded by illusionary people in masks
>we're all wearing masks
>GM says we need to pass a will save or can't count each other as allies any longer because of the mask illusion
>only person not wearing a mask is the Saint
>on a failed save it's difficult terrain because of the crowds (plus the broken glass)
>he proceeds to head into the fight against all of us
>has a bit of initiating (GM said he took Martial Training, but I call bullshit)
>I passed my save so I can see through the illusions
>saint beats a party member (our investigator) unconscious with the hammer
>I'm going to try and kill him with Smite Good (I'm an anti-paladin)
>deflects it with a counter
>start getting my ass handed to me
>our sorcerer decides it wasn't worth it, grabs me and the investigator and dimension doors away
>our last party member turns invisible (hidden blade rogue) and fucks off

Basically he was just a pile of random abilities and 'fuck yous' from the GM.

Maybe I should just take a break. From pathfinder, from this general, and roleplay altogether. I don't know if I can do this anymore.

why tho

>>55115209
broken glass shouldn't do anything to non-halflings? I mean everyone else wears boots.

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>>55115239
Please don't ragequit life. We love you and think you're important! Whenever you're feeling down just think about what fennec-anon would have to say to you.

>>55115239
I feel ya, man. Maybe things will get better though.

>>55115268
Not thinking about quitting life, just this place and everything related to it. It's just spite, wanking over thread personalities that have self-shilled them to retard levels, with this app circus bullshit, and the endless, endless shitposting about lewds, thicc, breeding and all of that shit. It's tiring as fuck to try and keep up with it, especially when there's barely anything here that I even enjoy.

I don't know why I come here anymore.

>>55115200
>>55115209
Are you the same anon that was complaining a few days ago about your GM making you fight "The fastest man alive" with a bunch of custom BS powers?

>>55115297
do you need a hug

>>55115297
I feel that and it's completely reasonable. If you don't like this place don't feel tied to it. Walk away for a while and maybe come back in a few months to see if your feelings about the place are any different.

>>55115314
Sounds like he needs a game.

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>>55115297
>especially when there's barely anything here that I even enjoy.
well post about things you enjoy silly!

>>55115316
honestly i leave the thread every few months.

I don't really care about new games anymore so

Here's a question for you, /pfg/:
Are there any people running meme games that aren't also playing in meme games? Does DMing for /pfg/ give you an edge on the competition during the app circus?

>>55115305
Yes.

>>55115337
You could always go to /sfg/ and talk about drone mechanic DPR (seriously every time I peek into that thread all I ever find are discussions of drone mechanic DPR and anime bullshit).

>>55115328
Do you think I don't try? It invariably gets drowned out by some people autistically screeching about celebs, memegames, bamboozles, typefucking eachother, and the eternal sjw vs pol shit that crops up. What's the fucking point anymore? I've tried to get people to talk about what I like, but nobody bites. I can tell when I don't fit in with a crowd.

>>55115367
It sounds a bit like you're having a depressive episode anon.

>>55115367
I kind of know the feel. Everyone can pick individual anons out so easily now that any topic is one wrong word from being derailed to be people yelling about how they recognize them and they're shit for x reason.

>>55115168
You're half right

>>55115268
Fennec Anon hides a deep pain. You can tell.

>>55115427
Pick me out, you Sherlock wannabe motherfucker

>>55115414
Is it an episode if it's related to here and only here. No other part of my life is getting me down, and more often than not, actually picks me up. Being honest, this sounds like you're trying to put these criticisms I have as just part of a "depression episode" and not actually valid complaints.

>>55115427
It's probably fairly noticeable who I am by now. I don't really try to hide it anymore. I do hate that the publicity that came from open games and applications ruined this general's community. I don't know if it can ever be fixed.

How young one must be to begin training in anything to become a competent warrior, soldier, knight, archer, etc?

>>55115427
I think a big part of the problem is that, now that people are readily identifiable it has aggravated the cowboys and indians game over actual discussion argument.

Now every disagreement over games goes like this:
>Anon 1: I don't like this game/character.
>Anon 2: You're just mad you didn't get in.
>Anon 1: No I didn't even apply!

or

>Anon 1: I like this game/character.
>Anon 2: Hi <character's player>
>Anon 1: That's not even me!

I think I've started to dislike playing pathfinder.
I loved it a few years ago when I had no idea what I was doing. I would pick dumb spells like Cultural Adaptation on spontaneous casters, and dump Con because I wanted to play as a sickly old man.
Now that I know which feats are traps and which are basically necessary to function, which spells are the best for a wide variety of situations, which classes can fill which roles, and a million other tiny meta things about the game, I just don't think it's very fun for me to play anymore.
I still like DMing though.

>>55115519
Generally around the beginning of puberty

>>55115522
Seems like the only way out of false flagging is to provide evidence of who you really are, which defeats the purpose of this place being anonymous. We're fucked.

>>55115507
The problem is personalities, right? What if everyone just disappeared? Went Anon again?

>>55115591
As ironic as it is for me to say this with that nametag on (and I'll take it off after this post), I'd be fine with that, personally.

>>55115630
The downside is that I don't want to lose my friends, though, even if it will help strangers feel happy again. Quite the dilemma

>>55115644
I feel like I lost my friends here when they all gained a face, and started hating one another.

>>55115644
Friends are something you should have in private, part of the issue we're having here is that some people are treating this thread like a chatroom, when that's just not its purpose.

>>55115666
I'm sorry to hear that, Satan, but if they hate each other, or hate anyone, they were never very good friends. Hatred is a poisonous thing.

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Are half-orcs good archers and hunting? Which races are more likely to be good at it?

>>55115706
But no one really disappears if Discord and Roll20 and such still exist. As long as a non-Anon venue is out there, personalities form. End /pfg/ discords and quit participating in /pfg/ Roll20 games, and you'll fix everything.

>>55115730
Why do you think I left?

>>55115769
Leaving isn't enough if the others remain. The Discords must be destroyed.

>>55115788
I'm probably leaving tomorrow. I'm done with this place.

>>55115788
The only way to destroy it is to get enough people to agree to leave until the only people that are left are the people that make each other miserable by being an emotional drain on each other.

>>55115820
Is it best to quietly slip away, or make a parting statement?

>>55093714
>Received
Hasn't received anything aside from lashes so far.

>Gave
A box of candles, and is planning to make a necklace out of the first gold piece he's earned aboard the ship he's serving on currently.

>>55115830
Depends on how many people will notice your absence. If you didn't really talk much to begin with just leave quietly, if it will cause a fuss you might as well let people know so that the ones who actually like you can talk to you personally after you've left.

>>55115729
Orcs/half-orcs farm "easy" crops, like rice and legumes that they can flood the fields so they don't need to worry about weeding or most pests. Advantage to flooding the fields is you can also fish-farm in them too. They also like pigs and chicken.

Dwarves are natural bee keepers (poison resist and +con make them basically immune to bee stings). They also keep herd animals like sheep and dear god are dwarven work-crews nice to have around during a harvest because in addition to their constitution they also favor machines. Their propensity for honey and grains make meads, beers, breads and even pastries quite common. A not-uncommon task for a young dwarf is to be a seasonal shepherd until they can get an apprenticeship somewhere else.

Elves are forest gardeners and don't really understand the concept of larders and kitchens. They have apprenticing druids or rangers take care of big communal groves that you can just go to get an avocado or something. They may hunt too, but typically meals are very communal. Due to their long lifespans they also get into crazy animal husbandry projects.

It's nomadic humans which tend to be the biggest hunters and kobolds which tend to be consummate trappers.

>>55115788
>the discords must be destroyed

?

Is spell focus worth it on a magus? Most touch spells don't seem to have saving throws

>>55116331
Not unless it's a tax for something else that you'll need enough to pay a feat tax.

>>55113093
Depends on the country / area they reside in, doesn't it?

If people dislike them, some shit and dangerous jobs. Otherwise, anything goes, unless animals are spooked by their infernal blood and get crazy around them or something,

>>55115507
I note you don't actually say what you like, just say what you dislike! What parts of Pathfinder DO you like?

So a magus with a whip seems really good

Hey there /pfg/
it's your boy random anon here at 6 am.
Let me hit you with my question plain and simple.
>Have you ever loved a character you've made so much the thought of losing him/her/yourplayingaconstructwhy makes you sad?

I'm reaching that point soon. We're level 12 now. I fear I'll lose my special little shadow arcanist soon. Either giving his life heroicly to save his new family, or by winning and the campaign ends. I've spent too much time thinking about his backstory, where he's been, his family. I think I've grown too attached.

>>55115630
you're still a piece of shit though.

>>55117532
Often. I get overly attached to most of my characters.

Did the app circus finally die for good?
Despite people still complaining about the cabal and APPS APPS APPS, I haven't seen any obvious bamboozles around for a week and change.

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>>55117532

Yeah. I love my own characters, and the ones I read about.

This group ive been following in the Draw Your Party threads looks like it's finally wrapping up. It makes me sad, because I've grown fond of the characters and love their interactions.

I get attached to things way too easily.

>>55117847
We're collectively pretty bored and unimpressed with the current game offerings.

the PM THEM culture neutered the demand for lewd too.

It was fun while it lasted though.

>>55117317
It's terrific, especially if you have Whip Mastery.

>>55117847
The app circus is contained within Discord atm.
The discord is all over the Starstone Academy game, discussions of it completely dominating all discourse on the discord.
It mostly doesn't spill over into the thread, though.

>>55117532
I've never been overly sad about a character death, as that is an end to their story. A sad end, but an end nonetheless. I absolutely have been sad about a game just ending or needing to leave a game with no conclusion, leaving my character in limbo.

>>55118015

That's the game ran by IDrive, isn't it? Isn't it a super-obvious bamboozle by one fo the most universally hated namefags of /pfg/?

>>55118239
It seems legit and IDrive made public apologies and explanations about his old nonsense a few weeks before he launched it.

>>55118245
And I'm sure his applying to games back then seemed legit too. I'm just saying, once a boozler always a boozler.

>>55118245
What were the apologies and explanations?

>>55118421
[14:01] IterationDrive: Well, the short version is that I got a new job that proved to be a lot more stressful than I anticipated, which a schedule that left me all sorts of screwed up; combined with flaring up some ongoing family issues and a whole heap of money issues, I just didn't have the energy to do any gaming at all. I kept MEANING to show back up and apologize and explain what happened, but each time I tried I felt awful for vanishing and said 'maybe next week'; and by the point my life had stabilized I'd already been kicked out of everything. I have a bad habit of taking blame in to myself, so I pretty much convinced myself I deserved it and had been an awful person and that I didn't deserve to try to go back and explain myself and what happened until recently, because as it turns out depression is really shitty and I'm tired of living with it, so I decided I'd try to fight it in every corner. Also holy shit ID that is not short at all 'this is the short version' my ass.

[14:05] another person: there is NOTHING worse than someone just vanishing on you
[14:05] another person: especially as a GM

[14:06] IterationDrive: I am aware, which is why I didn't come back until I realized a good chunk of the reasoning was that it gave me another excuse to look down on myself, which wasn't healthy short or long term.

[14:07] IterationDrive: Because it started with me missing a sessiond ue to oversleeping after a rough day and snowballed from there, basically.
[14:07] IterationDrive: (Also the rape and murder--evil campaign, I was very clear about playing a serial rapist, I okayed it with the other players and GM, the murder was an unfortunate accident.)

[14:09] IterationDrive: And, again, I kept meaning to, but it kept snowballing to 'i'll do it tomorrow'. I am aware that I screwed up, and I am not looking to make excuses, which is kind of the main reason I haven't until now explained myself and just sort of showed back up out of the blue.

Guys, War for the Crown is coming.

Anyone ready to pledge allegiance to Taldor?

>>55118472
No, not really. Never really liked Taldor.

>>55117885
>the PM THEM culture neutered the demand for lewd too
Everything is proceeding according to keikaku

>>55118472
I just want to plow the Princess' royal booty, desu

>>55117885
>the PM THEM culture
>Never got any PMs

I've never been so grateful for a fucking bamboozle

>>55117885
>the PM THEM culture
It was literally two people pushing that though.

>>55119169
No, there were others, especially early on

>>55119128
I'm willing to bet you will get that opportunity, anon, as well as the booty of every eligible noblewoman in Taldor.

>>55119136
>tfw only one person has PMed me
>and it was to talk about my game not fuck my ass
It's not fair

>>55119245
>taking it in the e-butt
Confirmed for a total fucking e-queer
What's your Discord, ya little fruit?

>>55119316
I empirically shouldn't tell you

>>55119336
Then you won't get to feel this meat locomotive in your virginal butt

>>55119358
>virginal
I don't have enough reaction pics on my phone for this

>was fairly hype for starstone
>one hour in the discord and part of me has died

>>55119670
Masha can be really annoying.

>>55119670
I'd say just ignore them and do your own thing, but if you're not part of the circle jerk you're probably not getting in.

>>55119720
breaking rules now aren't we
>>55119670
>>55119758
can't stand watching people other than you have fun? Must be miserable

>>55119720
What have I done this time?
I haven't even been reading the thread until someone pointed out to me some nonsense is happening.

>>55119802
No, it's that I wanted into the game until I saw who is be playing with.

>>55119804
Please at least pretend to hide your boner for vampires, people can see your stiffy reflected in their ethernet cables and it's off-putting.

>>55119880
How is them claiming vampires are cute is any worse than the degenerates and actual vorephiles around them

>>55119880
I'm engaging in friendly shitposting with a bunch of friends and having harmless fun with them.
How is this a bad thing?
Moreover, how am I magically so much worse than others as to warrant singling out when half the chat is posting silly lewd nonsense about their characters?

>>55119880
But it's merely a survival instinct since vampires have DR for Piercing and Wood.

>>55119802
>can't stand watching people other than you have fun? Must be miserable

>Get excited about the game
>Find out that you'll likely be playing with a pile of annoying shitstains
>Must be mad that other people are having fun
:thinking:

>>55119967
>dm is participating in the talks
>several players are participating in the talks
>everyone is enjoying it
>except the one silent autist who is angry they aren't participating

you're better off not apply senpai, we don't want you anyways

>>55120026
It's not about you asking questions you retard it's about you excessively (E)RP'ing and trying (and failing) to act cutesy in the discord since forever, you've been talking about your vampire boner and le addiction to de succ~ since Skullfucks and almost nonstop since Starstone came up.

>>55120060
>you've been talking about your vampire boner and le addiction to de succ~ since Skullfucks and almost nonstop since Starstone came up.
Wrong person, m8.

>>55120026
>except the one silent autist who is angry they aren't participating
Not angry I'm not participating, just angry that something that looked fun turned out to be run by a pile of annoying twats.

>you're better off not apply senpai
Trust me, I'm not going to anymore, but it sure is cool that you lot show your true colors by jumping down the throat of anybody who dares to suggest that your little club isn't the best, most fun thing ever.

>surely the thread has stopped being about celebshit by now!
>it's instead more celeb shit, but now

I miss when we had devs hanging around, at least that had the potential for talking about content people cared about.
I miss Avowed updates

>>55120155
Devs actually hang out on Discord. :^)
One is even applying to Stargame.

>>55120155
It's more celebshit but with less games.

What would be the best party right now for starstone?

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>>55118462
In all honesty that entire thing reads like a set up for another bamboozle.

>Sorry for ghosting, it was because of my "mental health"
>I raped and murdered a critical NPC because it's what my character would do
>I'm feeling so sorry for myself so you should too

Fuck that shit. Even a person playing a serial rapist in an evil game ought to have enough sense not to target important NPCs. He's just making you feel sorry for him so that he can pull the exact same shit again only to swear up and down that he's sorry and he won't do it again. I genuinely hope it's not a bamboozle, I hope people can find a game that they enjoy, but deep down in my gut all I see building up here is pic related.

>>55120155
Dev's probably lurk here it's just that there isn't anything to really do ATM. There's the Legendary Gunslinger playtest and Rajah and that's about it.

>>55120291
I don't think there are enough finished apps to say, honestly. Best in what way? Best party comp? Best apps in general?

>>55120428
Best dynamic to adventure with

Giving leeway on things like sheets

>>55120449
CCC, Foxtits, Rory, Kyras, Ruhiel and Casimir

>>55120503
Clever girl

>>55120449
Even that's kinda difficult, given most of the personality sections aren't finished.

>>55120503
If you were going for the dream team of self shills, you should have had Mouse in there somewhere.

>>55116671
Okay, Mr. Cheeky. I like gamey feeling pathfinder has. I like putting together the build plan for a character. I like playing a game with like-minded people. I like working together to tell a story. I like the tactical feel of combat. I like interesting settings, lot and plotlines. But all that seems to take a backseat to ERP and pming them and type-fucking each other and being spiteful to be each other despite acting friendly in the discord.

>>55120540
Fuck off, Rory.

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>>55120503
Did someone said fox tits?

>>55120631
That actually sounds more like Vult tbqh

>>55120631
>>55120817
But both of them love lewdness. This guy seems to hate it.

>>55120830
Vult has said several times that all he wants rig ht now is a normal game. It even says that on his starstone app

Rory is a horndog though

>>55120631
>>55120817
>>55120885
I'd be pretty happy if both of them fucked right off from this general and our games.

>>55120885
That's bullshit. The nigger runs PLD

>>55120910
>gets a lewd game
>is happily running it
>isn't crying out for more
>wants a normal game of adventure
What's so hard to understand?

The PLD greentext should have indicated this to you.

>>55120984
Ok vult. But can you stop getting so riled up when someone even types your name?

>>55121016
>this is riled up

>>55121035
You have some compulsive disorder that prevents you from just letting a casual mention of you slip by. You need help.

>>55121035
Fuck off, you're a worse crybully than Disk.

>>55121063
What the fuck is a crybully?

>>55113929
>Philosophy wankfest
This always confused me. The listing really never made the game sound super "high concept" or "philosophical", it certainly had those tones but they were among a stronger tone of "played straight heroic adventure!" "athurian!" "romance!" and so on. I always thought the game was more "blue rose" than nobilis. And from the greentexts and other information we've gotten, that seems to be the case.

>>55121130
Getting other people into trouble and guilt tripping people and justifying your mean behavior with "But I am the victim here" or "I can do this because I am sad/mad/whatever chosen usual trait of being a victim the guy has chosen for the day"

>>55121162
So he's a sjw?

>>55121177
More or less.

>>55121204
>My rapegame is high art
>Le I just want a normal game face
>Definitely not a sjw, no no

>>55121130
A bully who turns into a total crybaby when the tables are turned. Disk and Vult are prime examples of this, aggressively attacking anybody who fails to appreciate their genius and then pretending to be this put upon victim when people call them out on their bullshit.

>>55121059
I don't respond nearly as often as you people think I do.

>>55113929
>>55113771
Maybe people do care but don't feel like asking about it every other day, especially since they only have a session every week or two?

>>55121272
You do in discord

>>55121140
The philosophy wankfest is there in the sense of not clearly stating what it means to be a hero. Saying "become a hero" without telling someone what it means to be a hero is a very fast way to start a philosophy wankfest over what, exactly, it must mean to be heroic.

>>55121237
Implication here is using the same tactics rather than sharing the same brand of mental illness.

>>55121302
I completely agree, I just never thought that seemed like the dominant element of the campaign. I mean, look at the party, they have different definitions of hero sure, but they're all compatible definitions (expect maybe Sibyl, depending on if she is a "I don't kill" pacifist or a "no one should ever kill ever" pacifist, and possibly Illaria depending on if she's "I party and you should too" or "everyone should always party always" ) because if the party was full of incompatible definitions it would certainly turn into nothing but navel gazing and debate club with adventure happening at a snails pace, or handled poorly just outright PvP.

And these choices don't surprise me, because the concept was never "The Princess wants to recruit six different philosophies and pit them off against each other in a philosophical deathmatch to see whose philosophy prevails!", it was "She want six heroes to work together to make a legend around which to build a new culture, and would like them to each contribute their own flavor to that singular culture."

>>55121285
Anon you realize that I didn't start this, that I'm not the one who was bitching about lewds games?

>>55113929
I mean, I barely care, and that's because I don't want my character being used as an NPC.

>>55113682
Chalice isn't dead, Ladyknights is still active I believe.

>>55121449
Philosophers who completely disagree on a philosophy would never work together, but the most heated discussions tend to come from philosophers who agree on most points but not the fine details. Existentialists, Absurdists, and Nihilists are similar enough to look basically like the same thing to people who don't know the difference (they all agree there's no meaning to the world), but none of them can stand the other two. Existentialists find nihilists offensive and childish for 'giving up' halfway through and find absurdists bent and broken for suddenly deciding that if nothing matters, then that must mean that nothing needs to matter. Absurdists find nihilists depressing little shitters and existentialists pretentious fucks who suddenly decide they're going to create a duty for themselves because they can't stand not having a clear goal for themselves. Nihilists find absurdists as tryhards making up for being lost, and find existentialists as idiots who can't deal with the fact that it actually doesn't matter.
Personally I always thought it was going to be a philosophy club. It is a philosophy club, according to the greentexts.

>>55121474
You made the highest profile lewd game there is. How are you not involved?

>>55121549
I think Vult meant he didn't start this conversation because he wasn't the anon complaining about lewds.

>>55121588
He normailized the lewd game culture. He's the cause of that anon's complaints

>>55121621
He's also the cause of shitbags like Luci showing up and ruining /pfg/.

>>55121549
I meant this thread.

Also I am looking for a normal adventure. Why is that weird?

I hate all of you. That is all.

>>55121628
Witchhunter-boyo, I know you're looking for the next big woobie, but Luci isn't anywhere near the level of Rory or Kawase. He's just not going to work for your next boogeyman.

>>55121630
It's bullshit, because we all know you're a fuccboi degenerate set on ruining the few normal games we get

>>55121672
>embodiment of things wrong with /pfg/
>not on the level of Kawase or Rory
Fuck off, Luci.

>>55121739
He's the fag who can't stop stutter posting or doing the cute-but-actually-annoying-as-fuck spoiler shit, right?

>>55121677
It seemed that most people didn't even want Starstone because it's run by iDrive. Do you just need somebody to be the bad guy? This seems stupid. All this namefag celeb bullshit seems stupid. Just run a goddamn game and shut up.
>>55121628
/pfg/ was shit before Luci, it'll be shit after Luci. I swear you people are so desperate to hate somebody, goddamn. Let's see who I get accused of being this time!

>>55121759
That's the one, along with being a legitimate shitter.

>>55121739
This

>>55121771
My guess? Adam or Drifter.

Why are people so obsessed with playing "Name that poster" anyway? The point is anonymity, isn't it? Quit being fuckstupid. You say these people are ruining /pfg/ but you spend your time analyzing posts for a namefag to accuse.

>>55121809
2 strikes!

NEW THREAD
>>55122019
>>55122019
>>55122019

>>55121901
I think most of it actually stems from Disk abusing anonymity to shit on his competition.

>>55121901
I'd bet on either Sleep or Sappy.

>>55122047
What competition? What are they competing for? Why does it even matter what one anon says? Since when has there been rules about being anon that can be "abused?"

>>55122080
And you would once again be incorrect! I like this game. I've almost got accusation bingo!

>>55122093
Captain Slow

>>55122238
I think I just got bingo... No, also wrong. Oh, wait. I don't think I've ever been accused of being Vult or Disk. Maybe try those! I'm ever so close, and I hear I'll get a free tv!

>>55122287
Oh, I know! You're really none of the above!

Behind the facade of being an anonymous nobody you're really - an anonymous nobody!

>>55122320
We have a winner! And that's exactly how it should be. We're here to be anonymous. If you want to fap yourself in Discord, keep it in Discord. All this namefag bullshit is fucking stupid. Reply to a post for what it says, not who you think wrote it. Nobody should care.

>>55122287
Vult and Disk are free squares.

>>55122363
Then I won quite a while ago! Oh, but it's an old tube tv. Shame.

>>55122080
>>55122238
I'm pretty sure at least these guesses were meant to be facetious, since none of these are known for shitposting in thread outside of self-shilling during the app process.