Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

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First for Slaanesh!

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Second for we killed Slaanesh.

repostin
>>55091362
>Sister if it matters.
More a comment on the fact battle sister refers to SoB.
>I am having doubts about the CT because the UM ones sound good too.... so many choices
They are all quite nice. Like I said, it all depends on what fluff/playstyle you like the most
>South texas, Hurricane planet
oh shit, my fellow citizen of the greatest state in the union. How's it going down there?

What do you guys equip rhinos with?

Combi melta to hunt tanks worth double their price? Flamer to assist killing the same targets as your cargo? Plasma to YOLO?

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Tau 1963/2000 Battalion

HQ - 201

Cadre Fireblade, Markerlight, 2 Shield Drones

Commander, Advanced Targeting System, Shield Generator, 2 Gun Drones, Missile Pod, Plasma Rifle

Troops - 264

3x 1 9 Breachers, Shas'ui, Shield Drone

Dedicated Transport - 381

3x 1 Devilfish

Elite - 458

2x 2 Stealth Suits, Shas'vre, Fusion Blaster, Advanced Targeting System x 3

Ghostkeel, 2 Fusion Blaster, Fusion Collider, Advanced Targeting System, Target Lock

Fast Attack - 80

2x 4 Pathfinders, Shas'ui

Heavy Support - 579

3 Broadsides, Heavy Rail Rifle, Smart Missile System, Advanced Targeting System, Velocity Tracker

Rate!

>>55091433
Reposting from last thread

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>>55091376
Soon

>>55091416
2 double bolters

Space City Niggas, y'all stay safe.

Supposed to be a few more inches tonight, and it's got nowhere to go.

Keep your phones on to listen for tornado warnings. 115 warnings since Friday, with dozens of confirmed touchdowns.

Hold the line until Wednesday, battle-brothers. Mother Nature will break before we do.

Lol jk it's gonna take YEARS to rebuild from this.

>>55091458
Why the fuck does anyone live in Houston or Galveston?

>>55091423
what is the fireblade gonna do?

>>55091420
>Moist.
I'd imagine. What town or city are you in? Up here in dallas all we're getting is some fast moving rainstorms, though that's all we get from most hurricanes. stay safe anon
>>55091458
>Lol jk it's gonna take YEARS to rebuild from this.
That sucks. It's always sad to see fellow texans hurt. How much longer are Y'all supposed to deal with this stuff?

>>55091423
>3 x 19 breachers
Holy fuck shas'la, calm down.

>>55091471
Imagine how I feel in MA

>>55091518
9 breachers

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I just finished these guys, what niche do they fill in a list? They're good, right?

>>55091502
>How much longer are Y'all supposed to deal with this stuff?

Thursday before it's clear enough to be negligent, but we should be "normal" by Tuesday afternoon/Wednesday morning.

This is easily as bad as Katrina.

>>55091554
2W Rip and Tear

>>55091448
Completely unrelated to your comment, just the pic, but there's a Hokuto no Ken yakuza game comming out. so while you may never get that, you can at least have kenshiro mixing drinks and singing karakoe to ai wo torimodose. so there's that to live for at least

posted in /WIP/ too

I found my old 2nd ed. LR and sripped it as best I could

It's pretty beat and in need of new lascannons. Anyone know a good alternative? Plastic LR sponsons wont work and my Javelin Land Speeder sponsons are a single lascannon

20th for I'm still butthurt over AL having almost no unique shit in 8e

Are combi bolter chosen any good now? They can dump a lot of shots.

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>>55091471
tbf, this wasn't supposed to be like this.

The storm literally just STOPPED. It's now moving east at literally 1mph. That means that all those rain bands it sucked off the gulf just kept right on dumping water on Houston. We got 24" yesterday ALONE, and it's supposed to be another 6" tonight at least.

These are flood levels that are completely unreasonable to suspect. The worst we'd had was 20" before on the Tax Day floods, but that was just a single day and highly isolated. This is regionwide and across multiple days.

>>55091554
They're good against infantry of any kind. If 10 of them charge 5 hammernators they will beat them with heavy loses, though still costing less points in total.

Just use them the say way you'd use Berzerkers and don't footslog them.

>>55091593
LR as in....?

>>55091612
Land Raider

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>>55091594
>best stratagem
>dares to complain.

>>55091608
How do they do against Guardsmen?

>>55091442

I just have never found the rock drills to be worth the massive 30 points. Their 1 damage and -3 save mod makes them start out worse than the saws. The odds of getting a 2+ and then a 3+ is .55, so the 30 point weapon only has a 55% chance of doing more damage than the 23 point weapon. As much as I want to drill baby drill, those odds make me squeamish.

Seriously, why don't the drills mortal wounds bleed over? It'd make it a nasty as fuck horde blender.

>>55091518
Originally 10, put yo 9 because Shas'ui.

>>55091494
Go with one squad of breachers.

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I'm converting a Blood Angel Jump Pack Chaplain into an Emperor's Children Chaos Lord.

I've got all the parts I need except a head and a sword for the right hand.

Any advice?

>>55091635
*to 9

>>55091594
>Alpha Legion
>Complain about not being unique enough

So if you measure range from the hull of the vehicle what is the hull? This isn't defined anywhere.

So can a predator not fire from its sponsons but can fire from the tip of its tracks? Or.is it just the centre of the model?

Can a defiler fire from its legs ? Or just it's upper body?

Likewise what does 'behind' a model mean when working out Los. Can my defiler not shoot units behind it because it can only see units infront of it or does it have 360 degrees Los? If so where are you meant to work out line of sight from? Can it see from.its legs? Can a land raider see from the tip of its tracks?

>Most playtesting edition ever.

>>55091640
Ditch the entire body except for the bending leg. The right half the model is all sculpted with muscle fibers and it looks really weird.

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Going to my GW store in about 20 minutes. Getting the SC! Nurgle Daemons box as my first foray into the game. What all do I need to pick up tool+paint wise?

>>55091635
Eh, I thought Darkstrider was the Breacher equiv of the Fireblade

>>55091661
Treat the vehicle as you would infantry.

>>55091672
Clippers
Xacto knife and blades
Paintbrush + paints

>>55091672
Some paints, brushes and clippers at least.

>>55091594
But all of the Alpha Legion stuff is fantastic.

What paints should I get? Obviously citadel ones but do I just get the recommended colors on GW's website? Can I use Duncan's Poxwalker guide for Plaguebearers?

>>55091688
I don't like using established characters.

Plus he's a pathfinder.

>>55091627
Very good. But if you expect them, or anything in our codex to beat guard WAAC then you're out of luck.

>>55091661
Hull is the body of a vehicle. Webster has the complete definition.

You can fire anywhere from the model.

Defiler is the same as above.

All models have 360 LOS. Behind is the relative position between 3 units in a line. The unit on the other side of the middle unit is behind the middle unit.

>>55091623
I'd rather have no unique stratagems but have actual unique units or wargear honestly. Unless you meant the tactic, in that case my point still stands but I agree it's a wonderful one.
>>55091653
Fluff wise maybe, but who cares If I can deploy the same shit as word bearers or emperor's children? Although troops zerkers and noise for WE and EC are great I feel the diffrences between all those legions is too small. Death Guard is a step in a direction I like but nurgle's not mine dude.
>>55091640
You could try describing what do you want to do with him.

>>55091700
Vehicles differ hugely in size and shape to infantry and don't have bases to measure from. This makes it really unclear where you're meant to draw range and line of sight from on vehicles. Again can a defiler shoot from its spider leg knee? Can it see from it? Can I shoot all my weapons from the exposed power fist of my dreadnought?

>>55091754
>you can fire from anywhere in the model
That doesn't make any sense.

>>55091756
Deal with it. Uniqueness is overrated and one of many reason why 40k was on downward spiral

>>55091640
Yncarne head for the duality angle if you can snag it.

>>55091669
>it looks really weird

And a Chaos Lord of Slannesh should look normal?

>>55091770
it's not unclear at all

>>55091753
>guard WAAC
You make me laugh

>>55091669

Looks really great, you mean.

>>55091778
Sorry, I meant to say anywhere on the model

>>55091669
>The right half the model is all sculpted with muscle fibers and it looks really weird.

That's why I picked it. It is going to be an Emperor's Children model, so it needs to have some weird fleshy shit.

Is calling something 'The Poz Posse' IRL homophobic?

>>55091825
I don't know, but if you have to ask if something is offensive, it likely is

>>55091770
Like infantry. Any part of it. I can't believe you are having trouble with this.

>>55091785
>this is the caliber of retard that GW caters to
The issues with 7e were the wild imbalance and the fiddly-ass rules. Hilariously, both are rapidly becoming factors as new content is released for 8e.

>>55091825
No.

>>55091825
I don't know, I named them and I'm bi, and I don't give a fuck. But yeah, IRL, probably would get complaints.

>>55091791
Yet nobody can explain how it works.

GW have said that you measure from a vehicles hull. Define what a vehicles hull is?

GW have said you determine true Los from behind a model, define what behind a model means? Does this mean you can't fire behind you?

>>55091811
>riptides are not broken I swear!
>bikespam is not broken I swear!
>D spam is not broken I swear!
>conscripts are not broken I swear!
Guard WAACfags are true cancer

>>55091825
I mean if someone found that so homophobic that they had to bother you about it they would be internally associating aids with homosexuality which would probably be homophobic by their own standards

>>55091879
Anon....nobody mentioned Conscripts. Could you be, in fact, triggered?

>>55091858
And what do you think contributed to those fiddliness and imbalance?

Well, keep on being butthurt about getting arguably the best legion and not having access to a mediocre weapon.

>>55091858
>Ultras can fall back and shoot
>Fists can ignore your cover modifier
Balance!

>>55091825
>being so insecure he's genuinely worried about some sodomite getting offended
Kek what a cuck.

>>55091876
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hull

I already explained the behind thing.

>>55091894
>spergs out when he hears 'guard WAAC'
>gets rightly called out on it
>"I-I w-wasn't talking about conscripts, d-dummy!"
I know anon, you are only pretending to be retarded.

>>55091876
it was explained

>>55091943
>spergs out
are you in the right reply chain?

>>55091961
I am, are (You)?

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Tell me the Ork Strats and Klan Rules /tg/, there's no way they're the same as the Marine ones

>>55091376
can someone tell the imperial faggots to stop cheating?

thanks

>>55092006
Is there a sneaky Ork Klan?
>-1 to hit and a stratagem to infiltrate
Is there a shooty klan?
>-1 to cover
Structured klan?
>re-roll morale

>>55092006

Most likely different. We've had Loyalist and Traitor Marines, and each have a good deal of overlap between their units up to the point of just having Traitor units being referred to as "Chaos [Loyalist Unit]." That and a number of these Chapters/Legions share pretty similar traits and tactical focuses already in fluff so their traits are similar, though their stratagems do differ.

Orks, however, have a more diverse spread of units and focuses. Their stratagems and Clan traits are likely to be quite different than Imperial ones, though there will probably be some overlap.

Honestly, we should see how AdMech fleshes out, given it's getting set up next and they've explicitly said that their major Forge Worlds will get some rules. Possibly minor ones as well, but I can't say as to whether or not they'll get as many as (C)SM.

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>>55091900
I'm sorry I just really like my sniper alpha legionaires models but them using lass cannons feels wrong to me.
also >>55091858 wasn't me

>>55092092
I want some AdMech articles but GW is taking it slow apparently.

>>55092092
They said 7 Forge Tactics exactly, so the same number.

>>55092056

>Is there a sneaky Ork Klan?

Blood Axes

>Is there a shooty klan?

Bad Moons

>Structured klan?

Goffs

Oh god it's going to happen isn't it

>>55091735
Fireblade/Darkstrider are better used for their basically guaranteed ML hits, Darkstrider might be better for you as his ability actually works for breachers but Fireblades doesnt. Just deck out a normal helmeted pathfinder and think of his name as a title like Fireblades is

what if orks got a new character that's a literal ork commissar with a black cap to boot

>>55092092

The only ones I'd take a swing at now is:

>Evil Sunz
Advance and Charge in the same turn
>Goffs
Additional attack after charge

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With 8e, what's the best load out for a Genestealer Cult Leman Russ? Is it still the twin autocannons?

>>55092169
What do you suppose the 7 regiments would be?
Cadia
Catachan
Vostroyan
Steel Legion
Valhallen
Mordian
Salvar?

>>55092229

Cadian
Catachan
Vostroyan
Steel Legion
Valhallan
Mordian
Tallarn

>buy second set of DI to fill in pure primaris army
>most dudes are running around with 2-4 clones
>gw decides to announce 5man combat squads that would fix the issue for even more shekels

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Death Guard rumours.

>>55092249
Forgot Tallarn entirely

>>55092056
Sneaky Axes
Shooty Moons
Speedy Suns
Looty Skulls
'ard Goff
and ass backward Snakebites.

>>55092285
>DG get all this
>My Exalted Sorcerers lost their spaceship laser
INJUSTICE

>>55092285
nothing that hasn't been seen here

>>55092249
So who gets what bonus? Ill assume Cadia is +1 Leadership

>>55092125
Ha, you better not read anything HH
AL has an assasin choice with a sniper rifle

>>55092285
Source?

>>55092255
>most dudes are running around with 2-4 clones
oh no how could this happen with starter boxes

How would this be for an initial list to start out Night Lords at 1,000 points with?

Chaos Lord w/TDA, Claws of the Black Hunt, NL Warlord Trait

Chaos Sorcerer w/JP, Mark of Tzeentch, Prescience, Warptime

3x5 Chaos Space Marine Squads w/Lascannon

Terminator Squad w/5x Combi-plas, 5x Power-axe, Mark of Slaanesh

9x Warp Talons w/Mark of Khorne

999/1000, fits into a Battalion for +3 CP. CSM squads hang in the back, Termies drop in woth the Lord for reroll 1's, get Prescience'd and fire the plasma at something, trigger Endless Cacophony fire again. Sorc Warptimes the Warp Talons into something so they'll get an easy charge with no overwatch. Termies use a command point if needed to charge into something with the axes, pop Veterans of the Long War to make sure it goes down. Lord also charges something, using the warlord trait reroll to help get in if needed.

>>55092285
More rumors:
Water is wet, fire is hotter than ice, it's really hard to catch air with a fishing net.

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is it just me or does the sergeant look fucking retarded

>>55091754
> trying to act like the definition of the word vehicle had anything to do with shitty rules design
Meanwhile, I can shoot my sponson lascannon round the corner of a rock because my left track is 5mm past it.
I actually hope you *are* a GW shill, because your white moonlighting is depressingly fucking tragic otherwise.

die-hards
iron discipline
drop troops
close order drill
hardened fighters
jungle fighters

>>55092401

>Digital scopes and laser pointers
We Cyberpunk now.

>>55091791
If you're a fucking spastic that believes tanks can fire round corners or a WAAC fag.

Rate my list please

Total points: 1994/2000
Battalion Detachment
HQ (244):

>Gravis Armour Captain (137 pts)

>Terminator Captain w/storm bolter and power sword (111)


Troops (278):

>5 man Intercessor Squad w/ bolt rifle (100)

>5 man Tactical Squad w/ plasma gun (78)

>5 man Tactical Squad w/ plasma gun (78)

Elites (574):
>10 man Reiver Squad w/ bolt carbines and grapnel launchers (200)

>Venerable Dreadnought w/ Dreadnought combat weapon (w/ heavy flamer) and assault cannon (168)

>Redemptor Dreadnought w/ Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Onslaught Gatling Cannon and Fragstorm Grenade Launcher (206)

Heavy Support (330):

>Predator w/ twin lascannon and 2 lascannons (190)

>Predator w/ twin lascannon (140)


Dedicated Transports (445):

>Razorback w/ Twin lascannon (115)

>Razorback w/ Twin lascannon (115)

Lord of War (360):

>Roboute Guilliman (360)

>>55092401
he looks lazy

>>55091813
That still doesn't make any sense. Try again.

>>55092434
>white moonlight

Is this a sailor moon reference?

Any third party Ork Kommando appropriate heads that aren't from Kromlech?

>>55091946
No, it wasn't. The definition of vehicle does not explain why vehicles can fire around corners.

>>55092523
roboute guilliman/10

didn't even bother to read the rest

>>55092586
They can't, you need line of sight from some part of the hull. Conversely, they can be targeted if any part of the hull is visible

>>55092586
neither does the definition of invulnerable saves

>>55091930
No, you just linked the definition of vehicle, like that explains why models can fire weapons from behind cover they can't be seen from. Don't be a cunt. Sorry, too late.

>>55092618
nobody was talking about firing from where they can't be seen from until this post

>>55092586
Because abstraction. It pokes around the corner and then pulls back in the same way an infantryman pops over a barricade and fires his weapon.

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>>55092579
I use some of these.

So 7 forges.

Mars
Graia
Ryza
Metalica
Stygies VIII
Lucius
Incalladion

What else?

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Anyone else exited about sisters in 8th?

>tfw they actually include Celestine in the lore and she gets a new model

Plastic models are coming soon to a table near you.

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>>55092579
>>55092646
And these

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>>55092579
Just use greenstuff like I did.
These are still wip

>>55092640
This isn't how it works, desu.

See >>55092613

>>55092651
She got a new model less than a year ago mate.

>>55092647
Probably Agripinaa rather than Incalladion, given that was in the 7th edition skitarii and cultmech codexes.

>>55092680
That's my point.

>>55092674
It's exactly how it works, part of the vehicle is poking around the corner so it can draw los, and thusit can fire, representing exactly what I just said.

>>55092749
But it can also be targeted because part of the vehicle is visible.

>>55092664
That looks awful anon

>>55092761
I never said it couldn't be targeted, though depending on the terrain it could be getting a cover bonus.

Anyone got book reccomendations focusing on Knights or Titans?

Also how viable are Knight armies these days? I might run 1k of Knights along with my 1k of Admech to finish off my list.

>>55092705
Sorry, I misread as "we can get a new one in the near future"

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>>55092778
Harsh burn bro.

>>55092805
AdMech are getting special Knight rules so wait a month.

>>55092811
not him but i would spice up the leather parts somehow since they take up such big part of the models, especially the backpacks. they lack detail

>>55092664
>gork and mork are the only true gods

>>55092542
Hes an idiot who is so used to typing "white washing" when hes sperging out that he was on autopilot

>>55092825
Nice. I'll hold off on my painting for a bit and pray that I get the smashfucker Knight and Admech codex I dreamed of. Why focus on the shooting when we've got tree-sized chainswords and cyborgs with sword arms.

>>55092664
Working with Greenstuff came to mind but I was open to options.

Looks ok, but I was looking for stuff with rebreathers, goggles, and such. Plus I don't have that much green stuff left with me.
>>55092654
>>55092646
Noted. I like the latter one and will consider it.

Thank you both for your replies.

>>55092874
No idea if we're actually getting a new knight entirely or if it's just special rules for existing knights. But we'll find out whenever they start doing previews in two weeks or so.

>>55092225
Exterminator is shit.

The best GSC Russ loadout is taking an IG detachment.

>>55092401

Are these the shitty ones that can't build the rapid fire variant?

>>55092401
"DAD! He called me a Heretic!"

>>55092935
kek

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>Death Guard kit will only have 1 of each special weapon
>want to make 5 guys with 2 special weapons of the same kind
>instead get 1 special weapon for 10 guys

Fugggg

>>55092169
One of the two codices with <subfaction>s has 8.

>>55092778
Well arent you a pisser

>>55093020
>not running squads of 7

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>>55092401
Just not a fan of the whatever Mark these helmets are, they look like the marines are constantly making this face: :<

>>55092294
Aren't they FW?
>>55092337
Cadia is -1 homeworld

>>55092535
... anywhere on the model? Where is the confusion? Which part of the sentence is unclear to you?

>>55093073
>FW
>Tallarn
BOI!

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>>55093051
That's the most inefficient way to equip them for power level though.

5 guys = 7 power

7 guys = 10 power

So you're going up 2 guys, but cost is going up 3. That's crap.

>>55093020
>Death Guard kit will only have a single copy of four of the special weapons, the rest will be represented with the First strike and Dark Imperium models

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>>55092434
It's the word "hull," I gave you the definition of the word "hull."

I'm not defending gw, but I am literate unlike you. Well, shit. It's kinda pointless writing to an illiterate.

Wub wub wuuuub wub wub

>>55093147
Cute Ahriman?
I love it

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>>55093113
>power level

>>55093099
The part that disagrees with his feelings about how the rules should be.

>have thousand sons army
>like the blood ravens

What should I do? Paint my thousand sons red, white, and gold?

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Played my first game against grey knights today, I heard gay knights have been having some problems and my opponent has been playing for not as long as me so I built kinda a wacky shit list with units I don't usually use, also gave me a chance to use my (wingless) thunderbolt for the first time, core of my army was straken and 3 units of infantry with power axes, they instantly melted turn two, which meant my other stuff needed to pick up the slack, including two triple flamer demolishers, a unit of ten rough riders, and a unit of 4 ogryns fresh from butchering a squad of termies

>>55093147
>>55092434
Fampire think of it as the vehicle shifting and adjusting as it targets enemies... y'know, like real vehicle do. Maybe in like the 40's you were stuck with hard-mounts and immobility but in the 41st millennium when you need to turn to fire your sponson at something to the right... you just turn in combat.

It's a system constraint, sacrificing some 'tactical reality' for ease and speed.

>>55093219
Paint them as the heresy 1K Sons scheme, they're red like blood angels in that and look a lot nicer than the current blue one.

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Hi

>>55091900
Eldar had fuck-all for Alpha Legion style unique shit and were hideously OP. Imperial Knights had fuck-all for unique shit (FW excepted) and were still hideously difficult to play fun games with.

The fiddliness was inherent to the core rules. Sure Chaos "spend twenty minutes rolling on tables pre-game" Daemons didn't help, but the psychic phase was still a hot mess.

>>55091672
Clippers or X-acto knife, needle files, and superglue for assembly. The GW stuff for this is overpriced, go to a art supplies or hardware store for it.

Spray Paint (white), paints, and brushes for coloring. GW's brushes will do unless you need high-end for some fucking reason, GW's paints are great. Don't waste money on their spraypaint, it's twice as much as normal spraypaint for no reason. Go to a hardware or art store again for the spraypaint.

>>55093264
It's sad the quality of the conversion isn't matched by quality of the paintjob. If I ever did something like that or like that kickass blight-knight, I'd ship it to a professional with detailed instructions on how to make it look as neat as possible.

Or maybe I'd say 'no, it's mine' and paint it anyway. Either one, I'm shit at conversions. Looks cool tho

>>55092434
If you take model positioning and terrain so literally how on earth do you deal with the fucked up nonsense ground scale of 40k?

>>55092311
We'll get it back as a Strategem, a la Space Marine Orbital Bombardments.

Thousand Sons codex is going to be sick. Too bad we'll lose Turn 1 Deep Strike Assault with Scarab Occult.

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>>55093223
So second half of the game had his dreadknight, landraider, and termies say they had just decided not to fail saves, and all my anti tank stuff telling me they didn't want to roll high, and that was that, demolishers pounded and pounded his shit and they just kept making their five up saves, meanwhile the thunderbolt was doing alright, but once again it's hard to kill an enemy who won't stop making 5+s
horses came in and failed their nine inch charge and we're quickly hosed down by the landraider the very next turn
A few errors on my opponents part got his warlord and champion killed by artilary and ogryns respectively, finally his landraider died, and then exploded killing one of my russes, in the end he had basically no units left after I finally killed his big stuff, game ended with a tie, was a fun relaxing game

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>>55093219
Do both

>>55093289
Their colored spray paints are also fucking atrocious. The pigments don't bond with the propellant so you get blotches of that shit all over the model.

>>55093286
>knights
>not unique

Yes because an army of superheavy walkers were such a common sight across every faction.

Please do an alpharius and eat a chainsaw

>>55093365
>wow none of his shit died, it sucked so bad
>I effectively tabled him
What did the whiney guardtard mean by this?

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>>55093422
>that solid blue shoebox

>>55093264
I love how happy he is.

>>55093475
A shame it's so expensive now...
I have a hard time finding 350+ points in a list

is a tzeentch daemon army looking to be more poewrful than Khorne lads?

>>55093609
Yes.

>>55093113
Why are you worrying about cost efficiency while playing power level? The entire point is to be a more casual system.

>>55092401
AH AH AH AH

STAYIN' ALIVE

STAYIN' ALIVE

>>55093452
Are you being intentionally dense so you can throw insults or are you just stupid?
When you have to shoot twice as much stuff to do half as much damage things will still die, they'll just die a turn or two after you expect, if you put enough firepower into something to kill it turn 4 and it finally dies turn 6 it's still worth noting its resilience

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Harpies or Crones?

What's the better option in practice in 8e?

I got two still on sprue "used" for cheap not sure how to build them.

My army is mostly swarm based with a bunch of carnifexes and warriors (and a little of everything else).
>pic not related

>>55093609
Who'd have thought mortal wound down would be so retarded

I wonder if Mortarion will allow his niggas to reroll their DR saves or give them a +1 in order to counter it. That could be a useful Nurgle psychic power, actually. +1 to DR rolls or some shit.

>>55093676
what model do you think looks better. Rules change. Especially for nids who will get their codex soonish (not that soon i think but next year)

>>55093671
I just hate how many braindead cunts like you infest the hobby.
>wew, he made like all of his 5+ saves
>and I failed all of my to wound rolls
>I only almost tabled him, what bullshit

>>55093223
Sounds similar to how I play my normal list. Infantry squads with Power Mauls, Conscripts, Bullgryn, Straken and other stuff. Lots of fun.

>>55093792
How have Mauls been working for you compared to axes? Also how do you run your infantry? One special or fully loaded with a special and heavy?

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>>55091640
>Any advice?
What kind of a lord is he gonna be? My lord has a heavy angel thing going on and he embodies the more "pristine" aspect of Slaanesh worshiper.

>>55093814
Not previous poster.

Dont like mauls, the -1AP is often too litte.

>>55093781
I'm sorry dude, you just don't sound familiar with 40k
So we were playing an objective mission, the point of the mission was to hold an objective on your backline
So even though I killed all his stuff it was not soon enough, his land raider and dreadknight refusing to die meant they could hold me in the midfield until they died, by then it was too late to push his backline and threaten what few units he had left
In the end he had slay the warlord, his objective, and first blood
I had slay the warlord, line breaker, and my objective
So despite him loosing almost all of his army it was a tie game
Also if I came off as whiny I didn't mean to, it was a fun game and I wasn't too worried about if I won or lost
I'd recommend watching some YouTube videos or reading some articles on basic tactics if you don't get what I'm saying
I think your projecting a lot of hate and butthurt from other people towards me, I get it, it happens to all of us sometimes

New Necron player here. I heard Heavy Destroyers were good. Is it better to take a Heavy in a unit of normal Destroyers or to go with a full on Heavy unit?

Is there any benefit to Death Guard Bikers over Night Lord Bikers? I am considering adding a few to my army which is roughly half DG and half general chaos

>>55093841
You mean axes? I thought Mauls didnt have AP

>>55093830
Well a CSM Lord always has a buff aura, so some sort of inspiring angel perhabs. The guy you look up to, a role model that makes you want to do your best.

Or do you mean rulewise?

>>55093814
I usually run Plasma Gun, Maul, Heavy Bolter for my squads so they can still take pot shots on the run or if the army is faster than me, I can sit still and give extra fire before I counter charge. So far the infantry squads never do anything lol. I dunno what it is about how I play, but everyone blows the shit out of my infantry squads and conscripts, leaving all my tanks and ranged guns to just decimate everything else. I guess the bum rush of 60 infantry with Bullgryn and other things makes people think they have to kill that shit fast.

Power Mauls are great at wounding, but as >>55093841 says it's often too little. Still, I like having the S5 to wound Marines and Orks on a 3+.

>>55093875
Mauls are +2S and -1AP.

>>55093850
Ha. Le /40kg/ doesnt play 40k meme

>>55093875
you might wish to check your index/codex

>>55093860
my friend puts 1 heavy in a group of 3, but idk how good that is. I would personally like my units to mostly have the same range on their guns

>>55093781
Damn bro... try playing before you shit post! Better luck next time m8

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>>55093875
guess again

>>55093860
depends actually.
They have different range, so it might mean one heavy is shooting and hte others stand around lacking a good target.
However heavy destroyers cost more, so each dead destroyer is an expensive one.

>>55093905
Aw fuck obi wans master dies?!

>>55093850
>wow this game sucks
>I almost blasted him off the table but I lost because I didn't accomplish the objective
>such bullshit, I'm a tactical genius, it was all luck
I lol evertim.

>>55093862
sale ends soon. someone plz help

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>>55093939
Night lord bikers get to set up sweet sweet Ld bombs mah nigga.

>>55093964
that is sort of what I was thinking. no idea what the DG biker buffs will be, and I have a butcher cannon contemptor to buddy them up with

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>>55093905
>tfw you will never have loads of practical effects only to be ignored

>>55093876
Fluff, but if you can fit rules into it then all the better. Would he be a guy who would not even consider denying the universe the image of his handsome face? He goes to battle without a helmet. Would he use a standard helmet or would he go with something different (death mask?). What's his weapon of choice? A whip to punish or please those who deny the will of his patron or a sword to stab through the chinks of his enemies? If none of this is any help, just browse through GW's site and find bits that would simply look good on him

>>55093975
>>55093862
>Death Guard Bikers
Maybe try reading the rules instead of badgering people.

>>55093926
Why are you trying to make me sound so butthurt by putting words in my mouth and intentionally misinterpreting what i say?
Yeah sure I probably coulda played that game better, certainly coulda brought a stronger list, but the second post i made about it I said I enjoyed the game
I'm not gonna shit up this thread anymore with our back and forth and I'm not gonna let you get a fight out of me, feel free to say you "won" the argument if it makes ya feel better
Anyways I hope you enjoy your hobby however that may be my dude

Anyone here building/painting for Armies on Parade?
I'm nearly done with the painting side, but ideas for a cool and unique board utterly desert me. Anyone got ideas to throw around?

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>>55094024

Beach-head attack?

>>55094024
more input required. like what army? whats in there

>>55093975
>>55093964
just checked and I could run them and my extra chaos dudes as a renegade chapter and get the advance + charge trait which would be fun, but lose out on the -1LD

>>55094007
No new rules out for DG bikers so I was just asking what people guessed would be decent. Maybe try answering questions instead of playing thread cop

>>55094024
What army are you doing, if it chaos then you can really go to town with warp rifts and shit

>>55094073
how about wait for codex deathguard?

ofc fluffwise deathguard is not exactly bikerfriendly

>>55093964
>implying conscripts give a shit thanks to their friendly commissar giving them pep talks

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>>55094056
This man alphas.

>>55094056
>>55094066
>>55094093
just got vanilla space marines sadly, hence why the struggle. If all else fails 'generic ruined cityscape' works fine but I'd like to do something more exciting. Stemming some Chaos warp rifts or something sounds pretty neat.

>>55094106
Try reading the posts you reply to. There are some Night Lord bikes on sale today, and the DG codex is not out today. I know what the fluff is thanks

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>>55094141
Make it set on a space ship and the marines are boarding the ship

>>55091447
Well they are always given the best equipment by the high lords of terra to be their own hit squad, so I guess lots of shiny new terminators and whatever you consider to be cutting edge/rare but super effective technology.

Does the Baneblade have interior fuel tanks? i am having a pleasant dispute with my Dark Heresy GM and he thinks they do i believe the only fuel tanks are the ones visible on the outside. anyone have concrete proof supporting any of our arguments.

>>55094024
I have enough of an army painted well enough to get a board together, but I feel pretty discouraged about armies on parade
The last two were won by guys who just put super big expensive models on a flat landscape
Literally last year was won by a guy with a bunch of, admittedly nicely painted, FW knights and a titan on a totally flat board with fake snow on it
I want armies on parade to be about telling a story, and conveying a theme with your board, and ones like that were getting snubbed by whoever had the largest pieces of airbrushed resin
Like all things 40k, it just feels pay to win sometimes
>nb4 lol poorfag

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>>55094177
THis is the only picture of a baneblades interior, and it's pretty old
The actual model doesn't have much inside interior, only other source I can think of might be the book "Baneblade"

>>55094186
Yeah, I agree. Last year I went and the same thing. Flat board with 5/10 models on it. I'd like to try my best though as I've never made a whole board before so I think it'd be fun to at least try my best.
Judging by the summary there are individual theme prizes on offer this year as well. So hopefully the glory will be a bit more spread out.
https://armiesonparade.com/2017/07/29/armies-on-parade-2017-the-build-up-begins/

>Lads

Put in an order for the Imperial Guard's Start Collecting! kit earlier and it'll be the first time I've ever had or built a tank. Are the treads as fiddly as they look?

>>55094219
that's what i was thinking cheers mate i have looked at everything but the novel

>>55094141
If you have white scars with bikes you could make a race track with the others cheering.

raven guard could be sneaky beaky, from the perspective of the viewer, every marine hides behind something, telephone cells, (ttcombat has cheap toilethouses )...
Ultramarine: make your chaplain preach from a gigantic book
Crimson fists, make all marines stand infront a graveyard of sorts, mourning the dead
salamanders use your apothecaries to tend to the wounded in a refugee camp
iron hands maybe a repair center for both man and machine
imperial fists. a broken imperial guard fortification and the builders getting lectures fromthe fists

>>55094251
the old ones were, the new ones mercifully have little spaces where the tracks fit.

>>55094236
Wow reading that is super encouraging
Lots of awards for good themes and boards and still some awards for "giant well painted models" too

>>55094019
You posted complaining about tying the game, what is your point? That every game should just be "who killed the most stuff"?

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>>55094177
They are called Auxiliary fuel tanks and apparently they run on some form of generator, probably a upscaled version of the Leman Russ where it runs on anything, I assume that the generator has the internal fuel considering the ones outside are, again, called auxiliaries.

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>>55094176
Thanks man! I wanted to run allot of terminators any-who

>>55094304
Maybe the engine has a small teleportation receiver where fuel is sent from supply ships in orbit ?

>>55092811
> That Retributor

Fuck that's awesome

>>55091825
>>55091886

This guy gets it. If anyone tries to call you on it, just turn it back on them.

>>55094304
thanks for that mate

>People are complaining about the 5-man Primaris Marine boxes
>"Who needs those???"
>"GW fucking fans over again!!!!"
>"Whats the point"
And worst of all, the fucking retards that think the 5-man squads are a 30th Anniversary thing.
Can we just genocide the 40k fanbase?

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>>55092542
I hope so

>>55094143
Let me help that anon since you seem to be having trouble understanding him.

Dont do Death Guard bikers you faggot, DG doesnt do bikers so stop trying to be a power gamer.

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>>55092811
>heavy flamers sisters in bulkier armour
I hope you're paying attention GW!!

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>>55092895

>rebreathers

I did up a simple conversion from Black Orcs ages ago. Just cut the tusks on their masks off, then glue a small slice of hollow plasitcard tube to the base where the tusk was. Hey presto, gas masks.

>>55093676
>painting clear plastic

>>55092401
These are the multipose figs, So make your own sergeant.

>>55092987
No it's the full kits, they're just putting two sprues in the box instead of four.

>>55094390
do you really think, GW thinks Sisters does not refer to Sisters of Silence?

>>55094304
in (lore) theory would you think its possible for a leman russ annihilator to ignite the exterior tanks or pierce the rear Armour of the Baneblade and knock it out by ruining the tanks powerplant?

Where the hell do I get Flayed ones?

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Waaaagh

>>55094376
Two things:
First, don't associate my Legion with fucking animus. They don't deserve that.
Secondly, that guy has made a fucking shit ton of that kind of artwork including Disney Princess crossovers. Why???

>>55094371
Who? Reddit? Dakka? BnCS?

>>55094435
GW?

If you cant wait, just decorate necron warriors with straps of greenstuff that you paint as flesh and the odd zombiepart

>>55094445
>tfw no boss to WAAAGH! With

>>55094428
Maybe? But then again the whole point of the guard is redundancy and it being able to function everywhere, so I would think that the Baneblade would probably be able to function with only its generator, at least until it needs refuelling. So I think it would force the Baneblade to back out of the fight rather than knock it out completely unless it also killed several crew members.

Either way there's not much information about it, so you do you and if killing a Baneblade seems rewarding enough for your players then go for it.

>>55094276

That's good to hear, thanks. I was dreading having to spend ages on them alone.

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>>55092337
Historically Tallarn has been about infiltration, tanks and rough riders, Valhallans about conscripts and human wave tactics, Catachans about CC and traps/ambush tactics, Steel Legion about Mech, Mordians about Discipline and Orders, Cadians have been generic. Vostroyans have superior gear.

Keep in mind that it the FW Index is anything to go by the primary distinguishing feature of the Regiments will be their own order table (and a stratagem of course).

Running a fluffy renegade list using the genestealer cult index. Currently building a 750 point list. I haven't played a game since 5th and so I don't get completely destroyed what is the most competitive Leman Russ build in 8th?

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So I found some IG transfers and thought to check what Regiments were on there too maybe predict which get rules. Then I saw something interesting...

Also what/where is Turan?

>>55094541
if you buy an old one (chimera or russ chassis does not matter) on ebay, most have gaps somewhere, because making the track fit is next to impossible. These track guards had a reason :D

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>>55092895
>>55092579

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Ork-Kommando-Conversion-Set

>>55094530
thank you for your advice on the matter, its been helpful.

>>55094563
I like the battlecannon, lascannon 2Heavy bolter one.
Oldest configuration is best configuration. (Maybe)

>>55094450
>don't have fun with my hobby!

k

>>55094547
Didn't Tallarn have better lasguns and move through cover at the cost of carapace last edition?

>>55094639
>7th
>having anything for guard

No

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>>55094450
>implying Princess Marines aren't dope as fuck

>>55094654
Oh yeah right there in IA. You can upgrade infantry and Vet squads to reroll 1s on lasguns and MTC in exchange for only having Flak. Guess you were just talking out your memes

>>55094654
i dont know, maybe in the Imperial armor with tau and IG (tallarn among them).
Never had that book though

>>55094632
This is kinda related, but does anyone else get triggered when they see people paint the same subfaction as you but get very simple things wrong like incorrect shoulder color or putting decals/symbols on backwards? The "oh shit nigger what are you doing you could have googled a reference image to follow in like 3 seconds" far outweighs the "oh cool someone who plays the same X as me".

Also 5th ed noob here what is the most common smaller sized game played in 8th? 500 points? 600? 750?

Got a question about Brimstone Horror spam. The benefit of them is that they cost 2 points per pair and each unit of 10 can give you a 33% chance of 1d3 mortal wounds at the cost of one Brimstone per cast. Is this really cost-efficient? On one hand mortal wounds are great, but then they're so squishy that I don't know how they get in range without getting popped like a zit.

>>55094450
Crossover art is fucking hilarious nine times out of ten, but only intentionally hilarious once out of ten.

>>55094116
>weakness of huge blobs is morale
>most cost efficient blobs in the game get a cheap ass hq that makes them immune to morale and gives them absurd buffs

M O S T P L A Y T E S T E D

>>55094737
>cheap ass hq
Should we tell him regular Commissars are Elite?

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Is upgrading a captain to a chapter master worth the 3 CP? All of my marine lists tend to skew towards rerolling ranged deathball so I could get quite a bit of mileage out of rerolling 1's and 2's

>>55094716
its similar to conscripts.
2pts are nothing thats 6points for 1 mortal wound. most models are more expensive. you need loads and loads of them anyway

>>55094380
>Having DG bikers in 8e is powergaming
>Asking which version of a unit works best is powergaming

if you have retarded opinions, it is best to keep them to yourself.

>>55094563
punisher

>>55094687
>Ariel
How can she scream "blood for the blood god" without any voice?
>>55094728
I think the issue is there is just so much of it, having seen this guy's stuff before, he has a lot of it

>>55094716
Read the FAQ, horrors got a price change. And the appeal of horrors smaller than pink is mostly tarpitting and objective camping, since a pink horror with reinforcement points is a 16 point model you have to kill three fucking times before the cunt goes away

>>55094598
Im in love with this config. Its classic and effective. Kind of like the Executioner/Melta/Bolter setups in 7th

>>55094704
Nope, but I've had loyalist players spurg out on me for using those tech marine gear shoulder pads on my Havoks.

Same with those sun burst ones meant for the loyalist champions.

>>55094598
That configuration plus Punisher, Multi-Meltas, Lascannon are my favorite.

>>55094571
R Y Z A
Y
Z
A

>>55094716
>2 points
3 points. Also you need 10+ horrors in the unit to do d3. It's 1 otherwise. See FAQ.

So yes, it WAS efficient. As for now? Probably.

>>55094371
>complaining about 5 man boxes

Oh no how dare GW give you purchasing fidelity and not force you to buy 10 guys to use 5 of them

>>55094776
>How can she scream "blood for the blood god" without any voice?

She gets it back at the end of the movie as well as legs. She later devotes herself to Khorne a few years after that.

>>55094705
someone answer plz

>>55094705
500 where I am.

>>55094598
>>55094563
dont mind the ol battlecannon and just a heavy bolter combo too

>>55094773
without giving the rest of your list, the question is a bit ....... stupid
do you want them for melee or shooting?
What HQ do you run, keep in mind Deathguard buff aura works on DG and not on Nightlord and vice versa. Does not matter if you want them for getting faraway objectives (in that case DG is hardier) or attack over a flank to disturb the more fragile enemy units

Do you have stackable LD modifiers?
And ofc do you have some sort of characterelimination like commissars?

If you answered these and similar questions for yourself you can find the answer whats better for you alone.
Because a bonus-rule rarely makes or breaks a unit(except in 7th)

>>55094705
I see 500 and 1000 pt games

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>>55094808

>>55094737
Honestly the only thing that really annoys me is that it makes it so a single commissar with a single pistol shooting Conscript Dave is scarier to the rest of the conscripts than Kharn himself flanked by a pair of Bloodthirsters and Daemon Prince all poised to ride bicycles made of hate into your assholes

Like regular guardsmen are drilled so hard they're basically lobotomized when a commissar is near, but conscripts are just some guy they grabbed and told "don't run away from the triple-satan screaming about shoving your soul into your urethra or I'll shoot one of the three hundred of you" and this somehow prevents them from running away

Or beating the commissar to death (because there's three hundred of them and they don't want to be here) and THEN running away

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Painted up some decent looking Raven Guard test models a while ago and I'm thinking of getting back in the game with 8th edition.

Heard Raven Guard have some pretty decent rules now, is it worth jumping on the bandwagon or should I be less of a faggot and just add Primarines to my old Minotaurs army despite their lack of snowflake rules?

How are Temepestus Scions? I bought the Start Collecting + extra box as a gift to a friend. Is this enough to use as an allied force? I was thinking of maybe getting another 5 man box, but GW's prices are fucked so I'd rather not.


How do you use them?

>>55094907
i honestly would not be suprised if commissar and commander buffs cease to work on conscripts in the codex/next faq.
that would also solve a lot of problems with them. (well it would make them basically worthless...)

>>55094571
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Turan_XXI

OCDONUTSTEEL regiment, assumed from the planet Turan, in an old ass White Dwarf.

>>55094764
If enough of you army is benefitting from the aura then yes it's worth it. Think of it this way, would you spend 1/2 CP every turn via a strategem to upgrade your Captain's aura?

>>55094944
scions are good. but i would always deepstrike them, so they get where you need them making the taurox prime the most useless transport in the game (can only transport scions and inquisition)

fortunately you can build the normal taurox out of the kit. The normal taurox can carry normal imperial guard

>>55094886
I asked which legion had better bikers. Comparing units is not a dumb question whether you have army details or not, because I may change up my army focus from week to week, so getting tailored advice would be pointless.

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HEY NERDS WHAT'S BETTER FOR REPRESNTING ELDRITCH BEASTS FROM BEYOND THE STARS AND SPACE
>Chaos cultists/Renegades and Heretics with converted Chaos Daemons
>Genestealer Culstist lists with converted Tyranids

>>55094750
YOU FUCKIN WOT

>>55094945
>(well it would make them basically worthless...)
No it wouldn't. It'd make them perfectly fine. They're a god tier screen unit and a great way to add cheap massed firepower to your army, but they're still random fuckwits grabbed off the street, and as such they're less disciplined, giving them worse BS and WS and no commisar buffs or orders.
It makes them balanced.

>>55094767
>>55094777
>>55094826
Gotcha, thank you. I guess the idea of a bunch of tiny little shits spamming mindbullets enough to murderfuck tanks and snowflake HQs was just strangely funny to me.

>>55094994
both work

keep in mind renegades and heretics are currently shitguard. i.e. same points and worse stats.

>>55095008
Yeah 20pts for 3W that do the same as the HQ or Yarrick. HQ version it just slightly tougher and punchier

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Guys, where can I find ammo boxes that are large enough for gretchin to drag around?
I need a bunch of Ammo Runts and the Nobz box only comes with 1 ammo runt so I'm gonna have to make my own

>>55094981
Thanks. What kinds of loadouts do you prefer? I'm trying to magnetize them as much as possible but still.

>>55094445
>+1000internets.jpeg

>>55094994
Both would work depending on the exact aesthetic you want.

Demons are technically immortal and nids are still creatures of flesh and blood, so if you're going with some regular 40k lore demons would make a little more sense. But only in that way.

>>55095065
Convert out of monopoly hotels.

>>55094993
to be *very* blunt

a) Deathguard bikers are better
b) i would not be suprised if deathguard in 40k will not be able to take any bikes

>>55094919
You'd figure the High Lords' lapdogs would have some chapter tactics.

>>55095108
>stinky Death Guard
>not glorious Emperor's Children

U FOCKIN WAT

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>>55095104
Thats genius!

>>55095108
thank you. I figured as much, but wanted to see what other people thought

>>55095073
always specialize so double special for the normal squads and triple/quad for command squads.
keep in mind you can shock a tempestor prime who can give orders to 2 squads with the rest.
Unfortunately hotshot lasguns have 18' range and rapidfire and deepstrike means you need to shock >9inch away so you are never in double shot or Hotshotpistol range

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>>55094994
I assume you want to build a cult/following, and a couple of eldritch beasts in the mix?

I'd say it comes down to whichever game mechanics you prefer. If you make the monsters look cool enough, and their weapons make sense (so for example, an exocrine proxy has some sort of gun equivalent, or a haruspex proxy has a huge maw - same goes for the demons)
Genestealers and Nids give you instinctive behaviour, synapse and strike from the shadows
Demons give you summoning, marks and other stuff (I havent read the chaos index, so I dont know what they've got)

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>>55091376
I need advice on what to call muh warband here.
>Iron Warriors
>one half worships worships Malal/Malice
>other half worships Hashut
>only thing that binds them together is a faction within the warband that worships both gods and acts as a mediator between the other two factions
I was thinking Logos Breakers.

Why doesn't the Dawn Blade have a special lifestealing rule? Literally the coolest part of it.

>>55095180
>>other half worships Hashut
????

I would go for Iron Malice. Might be onesided but sounds great

Thinking about the Commissar and Conscript issue, would changing the auto-pass LD to be a flat bonus or reroll to LD when he blams someone solve any problems?

>>55095180
space chaos dwarfs i see

>>55093862
DG can't take bikers

So the majority of Blackshields are loyalists from renegade chapters, right?

It might be kinda amusing if a DA watch sergeant ends up with a Fallen who isn't very good at hiding it as his team blackshield.

>>55095214
2d6 conscripts killed per Blamming.

>>55095180
Tryhard and gay.

>>55095214
standard conscript LD is 4? something low as fuck

>>55095213
The thread here is http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47512297/#q47512297 where it came out of. Kind of sad it didn't go anywhere.
>>55095213
Yeah.
>>55095263
How?

>>55095180
>muh lol
Go away snowflake.

>>55095311
Literally everything about it.
>muh Iron Warriors but not the actual legion proper
>muh malal
>muh Hashut
>muh barely canon non-gods
>muh two halves that don't speak except for the special snowflake in the middle

The whole thing is gay. Sorry man.

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>>55095343
Well fug. Didn't mean to make something gay.

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>>55095361

>>55095261
Commissar pulls out his bravery SMG

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>>55095430
>Facebook
Yeesh man now you're making me feel worse.

>>55095466
>Commissar runs out of bullets turn 2
>Starts bludgeoning conscripts to death
>Guard on the line listen to the wet smack of his bolt pistol caving in skull after skull after skull

>>55092843
He said in his post they were still WIP