Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

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First for the Machine God!

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>AoS preorders up on NZ site
At least another week until DG

>>55066999
Link to last thread?

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Third for kasrkins of old.

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Previous thread: >>55063100

Got a doubles 2k points tourney coming up. 1k points per player. I'm bringing my Deldar and my friend his orks. He's running literally nothing but boys and bosses and I've got ravagers/blasterborn. How fucked is everyone else?

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>>55067036
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>>55067059
>games at my flgs are generally 1500 points
>I could double my kasrking/scion army and still be a hundred points under
It's thirty one guys plus transport for barely 700 points

>>55066999
>Mortarion bothering himself in a skirmish against Tau

So what unit/s in your army do you think will be nerfed when said army gets a new codex?

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>>55067557
I expect all around buffs

Asking since I didn't get a response in the last thread: What should I model my brother captain with? I want to minorly convert the regular SM Terminator Captain like they did in the GK codex.

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>>55067557
I expect all around nerfs

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>buddy gave me half a dozen beakie helmets for some stuff
>have no more extra marines to use them with
>have no need for more infantry so getting another squad feels pointless
>have enough characters stocked up so I don't need any in particular
>no modeling projects in mind to use them with
NAAAAAARRGHH

>>55067721
Just keep em around and you will find a use for them one day.

>buy hemlock from NZs version of ebay
>25 bucks off retail price
>still on sprue
>seller ships it with just the name of my town and my phone number on the package
>post office rings me up (yesterday
>say if I give them an address they'll ship it to me tomorrow (today)
>4:44pm
>still no package

This is some fucking bullshit.

>>55067557
I expect dark eldar to stay about the same, though the addition of relics and tactics etc will be an overall buff.

>>55067774
It took me a second to realize you were talking about an Eldar hemlock and not the highly poisonous plant.

>>55067534
Well, just going by battle reports guilliman seems to be in every ultramarine skirmish

>>55066999
Matt Ward is my hero.

>>55067796
Either would be good right now.

I don't know much about the Alpha Legion but I like their aesthetic. How does this list look? Trying to really benefit from that -1 to hit trait.

Battalion Detachment

Chaos Lord - Blade of the Hydra, Plasma Pistol - 81
Sorcerer - Force Sword, Plasma Pistol, Death Hex, Prescience - 109

Chaos Cultists x39 - Heavy Stubber x4 - 172
Chaos Cultists x39 - Heavy Stubber x4 - 172
Chaos Space Marines x20 - Plasma Gun x2, Combi-Plasma - 286

Helbrute - Missile Launcher, Twin Heavy Bolter, Mark of Slaanesh - 114
Helbrute - Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon, Mark of Slaanesh - 147

Chaos Bikers x6 - Chainswords, Meltagun x2, Combi-melta - 215
Raptors x10 - Plasma Gun x2, Combi-plasma - 211

Havocs x7 - Lascannon x4 - 191
Havocs x7 - Heavy Bolter x4 - 131
Havocs x7 - Autocannon x4 - 171

Total - 2000
Command Points - 6

Are scions still their own thing? I'm thinking of returning to 8th by converting a small force of arbitrators and thought that scions would probably be my best bet to actually play them like a force of arbitrators. If that's not the case, any ideas other than just using regular guard? Perhaps run them as marinlets?

>>55067904
Marine scouts maybe?

It's not a great mash up either way.

>>55067904
all of the indexes are in the mega in the OP. Which is to say yes scions are still a thing

What colour is the bottom of the Black Heart DE raider?
I don't think it's just leadbelcher, but I can't really tell off the store, and I can't find a list anywhefe.

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>>55067807
Cause he's OP yo

>>55067050
Anon don't you know? Mortarion is the end of the campaign. After its over, Morty will show up personally.

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>>55067926
And the best they've ever been

They went from garbage tier to tippity top

>tfw you've been playing kasrkin since 5th

>>55067885
I'd suggest mixing your weapons on your havocs more. Since everyone has split fire there is no reason not to and it makes it much harder for enemies to focus down whatever it is they fear. If they want lascannons dead they'll have to kill heavy bolters or autocannons and the reverse is true.

>>55067952
I don't care about Konor or special characters. I want the codex and the plague marines.

>>55067973
And the damn things sell like hot cakes now, it's hard to even get the shittier 5man boxes. Good thing I stocked up on them in 7th when they were just mediocre and gimmicky.

>>55067973
I have a couple units in as allies for my sisters army, I am ordering more now.

Is Plasma spam the main way to go or do volley guns still have a place?

>>55067588
Someone? Please?

>>55068041
Volley guns for line squads that don't deep strike, plasma and melta for those that do. Apply liberally to anything that you don't like. Don't forget that the primes can deep strike too and get ready to reroll all the ones from overcharged plasma.

>>55067885
I think you need one more cultist in each squad to qualify for the four heavy stubbers.

>>55068035
There's like 60 gazillion different scifi human soldiers you can get from 3rd parties.

>EU 50/50 Chaos/Imperium control
>US Chaos control equal to global control
>UK Chaos Control equal to the difference between EU/US
Chaos will win week six too right?

>>55067103
>He's running literally nothing but boys and bosses
So how many full mobs of boyz does your friend have?

>>55068127
>Chaos will win week six too right?
The campaign just started yesterday anon. Don't get too cocky.

>>55066999
going against a necron force with my admech army. Only small 750pt match but he is running almost all necron warriors and immortals and I am having a ton of trouble with them. Any advice on dealing with the grey march?

>>55068079
Chapter Master
Teeth of Terra
Storm Shield
Shield Eternal
Armor Indomitus

Those are the best upgrades for a Captain, pick whichever ones you're able to take.

>>55068041
Volley guns are pretty good, ap-2 and Hvy 4 is great against medium infantry and even makes heavy infantry nervous. Plasma is also good for sheer cheapness but either eating an elite or ten man troop.

>>55068154
Grey Knights, my dude. Looking to see which Nemesis Force weapon he should equip.

>>55067721
Start beheading your miniatures

>>55067096
>>55066999
>linking to previous thread in new thread but not linking to new thread in previous thread

Pointless

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>>55068298
>to knew too no catalog and filters

>>55068331
>implying

How the fuck do you think I got in here, moron? The point being made was that why bother linking previous thread if you're not even going to link forward. That's like wearing a condom when you're not even going to have sex.

>>55067885
>Death Hex

Take Nurgle keyword and give sorc his power so he can buff your units. Death Hex has too low of a range.

You could take Tzeentch mark/power and have the option to swap into Death Hex if needs be.

>>55067557
Commander spam lel
Hopefully balanced by buffing what is weak

>>55068425
You don't need a mark to swap powers

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Pic related are from Warlord games.

Do you think it would be easy to convert them to guardsmen?

>>55068463
Armor fits in 40k with the right world. Shit, steel plate probably protects from las better than flak armor.

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Okay, anons. Just got my rulebook. Cant find rules for assigning warlord.
I assume any HQ or Sgt?
Also,
Battleforged detachments: i can take a transport per unit detachment? The wording is not clear to me.

>>55068482
god i fuckin hope not

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>>55068517
hmmm

>>55068463
Those are Perry knights and IIRC are much more realistically sized/proportioned. I don't know how you'd go getting lasgun arms that fit properly.

>>55068541
They're also a dollar per model. Could be a great way to do a unique army.

>>55068463
Would be painstaking, but its doable.VC makes cool lasguns
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/laser-rifle-mk2-x5

>>55068517
Are you blind?

>>55068357
Maybe he suffers from that weird nervous disorder where he keeps on having involuntary orgasms 10 times a day. Don't judge.

>>55067588
Halberds are cool, but the force stave is the best option right now (assuming BC's get a 4++ save)

Or you could rock a hammer.

>>55068639
I do have Voldus's Hammer because the recastVoldus I bought is going straight into the Dreadknight.
The brother captain is also recast.

>>55068645
Hammer is probably your best bet, since it hits hard against any target and the -1 WS doesn't hurt too much on a 2+ WS

>>55067588
Depends on what you're trying to do with him. Halberd and Hammerhand wounds MEQs on a 2+. Warding Stave and Sanctuary gives you a 3+ invul. Daemonhammer hits shit on a 3+ and is obviously, well, a hammer. It really is up to you.

>>55068608
I read building force section, didnt see warlord mentioned. Only know its a thing bc SM codex refers to it under RGs entry

>>55068685
He can already get a 3++ using sanctuary and an iron halo

>>55068689
You pick a character, he's your warlord.

>>55068700
Oh yeah I forgot he has an iron halo

>>55068714
Close. Literally says model, and they note that if it's a character, they get warlord stuff.

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>>55068463
Theyre a bit thin and undetailed compared to citadel stuff. I dont have a guardsman for a comparrison but heres one next to a plague marine

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Well tg
I finallly tried teaching myself how to play

Today i organized two 25 power level armies, read through the rulebook, and then played a game against myself on my painting table (with My mostly homemade terrain)

The two armies were:
>Red scorpions with Sevrin loth, 5 scouts, an apothecary, and a tac squad
Vs.
>alpha legion lord Arkos, 5 CSM, a hellbrute, and 20 cultists

I realized a couple different times when i fucked up a rule or forgot to add a modifyer but overall the game went pretty smoothly for a first time ever playing

Highlights included:
>half a tac squad getting killed turn 1 because they ran into the open not realizing they werent in weapons range
>Loth smite-spamming everyone for plenty of mortal wounds
>scouts doing work and killing plenty of cultists without a single loss on their end

And then finally i had one lucky bastard apothecary who was attached to that half a tac squad that got wiped.
This lucky fucker ended up chucking two krak grenades in overwatch, one which did 2 wounds to arkos, and another which did 2 wounds and FUCKING KILLED THE HELLBRUTE who had already taken some smite damage

But he didnt stop there! He then proceded to bail out the other half a tac squad who were being assaulted. He killed two alpha legion marines one turn and then revived a fallen tactical marine the next turn
And he only failed to save one wound right at the end.

Im calling him "Krak'r Jack" the Apothecary and hoping that he stays lucky in future games.

Turns out playing warhams is just as fun as painting them! Im sure it will be better when i am better at handling the rules too.

Hope you friends are having good/lucky nights too, now im off to sleep and hopefully not wake up my gf...

>>55068689
You should read how to fight a battle, then.

>>55068749
I mean, who would be dumb enough to pick a random model as their warlord?

>>55068774
Alpha legion

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>>55068774
who indeed!

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R8rs, h8rs

>company commander
>commissar
>commissar
>tempestor prime
>tempestor prime
>master of ordnance
>master of ordnance/or company commander
>ministorum priest/or company commander

>4 scion command- 4 plasma guns
>4 scion command- 4 plasma guns
>5 ratlings
>5 ratlings
>5 ratlings

>25 conscripts
>25 conscripts
>25 conscripts
>25 conscripts

>3 scout sentinels (this feeels like the only lame thing)- autocannons

>colossus bombard
>colossus bombard
>basilisk
>basilisk
>basilisk
>manticore
>3 heavy weapons: missile launchers
>3 heavy weapons: missile launchers
>3 heavy weapons: missile launchers

Parking lot of doom, activate!

I ONLY NEED TO PAINT 2 MORE TANKS AND MY ARMY IS READY TO PLAY

/TG/ GIVE ME YOUR STRENGTH AAAAAAAAH

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>>55068749
I'm glad we cleared that up.

>>55068790
What kind of tanks

>>55068790
I only need to paint 28 nobz, a painboy, 3 warbosses, 5 meks and 15 burnas and ill be done with all my ork infantry

Then I can move onto my planes and morkanaut

>>55068790
FOUR SCOOPS
LEAVE HUMANITY BEHIND
RIP in peace Rich Piana

>>55068789
>missile launchers

kek

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/WIP/ is going really slow and I need some votes. What color should I do my Wyches, and most future DE skins?
All were done with Rakarth Flesh, Pallid Wych Flesh, Shade, Pallid Wych Flesh, Whtie Scar.

Left to right, Reikland Fleshshade, Seraphim Sepia, Druchii Violet.

>>55068790
I just finished painting a model, it only took me a week this time...

>>55068816
Yeah, I guess lascannons are better. But I like the multishot if I go toe to toe with hordes, and I get the mass-D6 damage filled

>>55068824
I like the violet

>>55068805
A lemon punisher and the offspring of Typhon and Echidna

>>55068824
Pffft I just use pallid Wych flesh and maybe a dash of nuln

It actually comes out quite nice on its own

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So if TSons are getting their own Codex, they're gonna get more than some 'gors, Magnus, Ahriman and Rubrics right? What the fuck else can they even get? Sorcerer helbrutes I guess, which would be tits, but I can't think of much else.

If I have the alpha legion -1 to being hit and the miasma of pestilence, another -1 to being hit, does that mean anything with a BS of 5+ auto misses or do 6's always hit?

>>55068752
I'm going to have to do this some time soon, if only I could get my shit together and paint

>>55068806
I hope you for now stop buying things anon

>>55068876
6's do not autohit, if something needs 7+ to hit it isn't hitting.

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>>55068714
>>55068749
>>55068759
Thanks

>>55068876
It looks like that would be the case, unless GW faq'd it

>>55068860
Got pics? Sounds interesting.

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This fucking Watch Master is going to take me like a week, I can taste it.

How long is too long to spend on one model, /tg/?

Only Death Guard and Thousand Sons are getting their own codices. Everything else is just CSM.

>>55068873
Scarab Occult Terminators.
Sorcerer Helbrutes.
Probably a special tank like Deathguard are getting.

>>55068517
yes to 1 transport per other unit

>>55068896
No such thing, it's done when it's done. Or when you can't stand to look at it anymore.

>>55068896
See >>55068825

But in seriousness, spending more time for an HQ isn't a big deal.

>>55068896
It took me almost a month to do my bud's Guilliman.

>>55068884
I am. All I want now is another gorkanaut, 3 more kanz and a deff dread and Ill have over 400 painted ork models

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>>55068873
As unfortunate as it may be we're probably just keeping what we got with WoM unit-wise, anon. Better not to expect much so you don't get as disappointed. At most maybe some rules so we can port over things like the osiron dread as a psychic helbrute/dread or maybe the AoS stuff, but that seems unlikely too.
Just expect the usual warlord traits/stratagems/relics and hopefully some fun psyker abilities.

>>55068752

Watching batreps helps if you're trying to learn the flow of the game.

Good on you for getting your stuff painted.

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>>55067557
I reckon tyranids will do okay i feel that we are finally in a good place. Maybe notsome big bug price drops. Some form of rupture cannon enhancement either -1ap to -2ap increase on single hits or a strategem that does something to improve it. Would love to see the -1 penalty of crushing claws removed when on carnifexes. It wont happen but a bug can dream

So I want to convert a daemonhost for my radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitor by using like a Zoanthrope or a Farseer or something the Inquisitor has either psychically enslaved or bound or something.

Can anyone suggest any other potential xenos psykers who would make good inhuman weapons?

As a related note can anyone tell me which Eldar craftworlds operate in the eastern galaxy as the main guy I play plays tau so I need it to be plausible for the Inquisitor to have gotten something somewhere around the Damocles Gulf.

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>>55068967
>As a related note can anyone tell me which Eldar craftworlds operate in the eastern galaxy
Here ya go.

>>55068967
Weirdboy. Have him tied to a pole that another acolyte carries.

>>55068967
>zoanthrope or a farseer
>psychically enslaved

>>55069001
Inquisitors literally have a spell this edition that lets them mind control enemy characters and make them take a swing or fire a weapon at an enemy unit.

It's not too far-fetched to suggest they could do something similar on a larger scale with reagents, preparation etc.

>>55068990
Thanks a lot, that will be handy.

>>55068917
Well don't buy them now unless you get them for like 5 dollars or something crazy

Otherwise I'll be very angry at you

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Doing a group forge world order with some dudes at my store soon, looking at the Keeper of Secrets to use as Zarakynel or just a Keeper of Secrets, but also looking at the Kakophoni for my Emperor's Children.
Do they come with a Blastmaster or is it five dudes with Sonic Blasters? Or are those just really old prototype Blastmasters?
Also would the Palatine Blades make good melee Chosen? Because I like the look of them.
On a related note I want to convert one of my Helbrutes into a sonic Helbrute, is there a weapon upgrade kit that would be best for that?

>>55068035

They were one of GW's best seller on release. Their sells have probably gone down now.

>>55068238
This.
After painting 15 SW faces I realised it was a pain in the arse, so I raided the UK bits site a retrofitted over half my army with beakies.

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Is this the best way to field lances in an aeldarii/ynnari force?
47 points per bike with dark lance, 57 for felarch

>>55069025
He's saying that there is no way a human could psychically overpower a farseer or zoanthrope

Basically anyone would be killed instantly if they tried it with a tyranid, since they are all connected to the hive mind
And a no human short of the emperor is going to have stronger psychic powers than a farseer

>>55068790
I only need to paint 80 gaunts/gants, 10 gargoyles, a carnifex, broodlord, tyrannofex and finish my flyrant that I started. Had to gocus on study and fellnoff the hobby train currently awaiting my airbrush to help in this endeavour send help

>>55069096
>And a no human short of the emperor is going to have stronger psychic powers than a farseer

Magnus :^)

>>55069089
Scourges are better.
Crimson Hunter is the same price as 4 of them, with 2 bright lances and a pulse laser, but way tougher, faster, and hits more reliably.

>>55069089
>ynnari
First off: you're a faggot

Second: scourges nigga what are you doing?

Ynnari faggot

>>55069112
>Here is my 50 foot tall, red inquisitor

>>55068750
>compares Perry model to literal fattest infantry in 40k and calls it thin
> thinks detailed means 'cluttered with randomly stuck-on CAD garbage'

>>55069136
>GOOD EVENING, FELLOW INQUISITORS! A GLORIOUS DAY IN THE CORPSE- I MEAN, THE EMPEROR'S LIGHT, IS IT NOT?

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>>55069136
INQUIRE THIS BITCH

>>55069112
> human

Primarchs aren't human, dipshit.

>>55069096
40k's a bit of a large setting to make sweeping statements, no? It's like saying there's no way a guardsman could ever kill a space marine in a one on one firefight.

Sure, it's not easy or likely which is why it's not a common practice but I don't think you could just say it's flat out impossible.

And who's going to be able to pull some kind of bio-psychic shenanigans on an alien if not an Ordo Xenos radical?

>>55069178
>Primarchs aren't human, dipshit.
>Sons of the emperor of man aren't men

>>55069189
Emperor isn't human either

You are tasked with creating a new army for GW . What do you create and why? Bonus points if you actually make a play-style that isn't already covered.

Got some AOS blood warriors in the mail, gonna convert them into berzerkers. Any ideas on how to make em look a bit more 40k besides slapping a backpack and some pistols on em? They're fucking weird assembly-wise. I dunno if the ones I ordered from ebay are some easy assembly shit or what but their bodies are in two pieces, including the heads. I can throw helmets on some but a lot have beards sculpted onto the chest and that's just awkward.

>>55069189
Its just the age old question. Does not having male gentalia and identifying as a man make you a man?

>>55069121
Yeah I had scourge in mind as an alternative especially given they can get soulburst.
>>55069127
Ynnari is far better than vanilla aeldarii/drukharii dumb faggot

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>>55069212

>>55069214
Except its not, faggot. Deldar are totally fine on their own. Also, better make sure you have one of your super special snowflakes otherwise you can't be ynnari

>>55069214
>Ynnari is far better than vanilla aeldarii
yes
>drukharii
Not necessarily, pros and cons to both options, they're about even in all

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Guardfag here - why is GW no longer making pic related? Was this too good a deal to let the peasantry possess?

>>55069197
Is there a play style not already in use?
Shit I think some armies currently have similar play styles.
I guess I wouldn't mind seeing Megarachnids covered.
No shooting, no psychic, just fast, high AP, high damage monsters that can infiltrate/deepstrike and wreck face in melee.
I wouldn't even buy them myself I just want them to be a thing.

>Deermund, 180pts
>M:12" WS:2+ BS:- S:5 T:4 A:6 W:6 :LD:9 3+
>Gae Dearg: Melee S+2 -3 D:D3 Enemies have to reroll successful invulnerable saves made against this weapon
>Gae Buidhe: Melee Sx2 -2 D:3 Units that suffered unsaved wounds made by this weapon can't regain Wounds. Attacks made by this weapon have -1 penalty to hit
>Magic Resistance: When targeted by successfully manifested psychic power, roll a D6. On 4+, the power is denied.
>Eye of the Mind: This unit has 4++ invulnerable save and can rerolls any To Wound rolls of 1.
>Knightly Tactics: Whenever your opponent uses a Strategem, roll a D6. On 5+, enemy losses an additional Command Point.

Sorry for this anons, had to write it down.

admech, dark eldar or chaos?

>>55069226
That meme is cancer

>>55069252
Dark Mechanicus enslaved by DEldar

>>55069255
I don't disagree with you. But I regret nothing.

>>55069229
Deldar are totally shit on their own. I'd lump the uselessness of their HQ along with other prime examples like GSC HQ
It's a fucking shame that wracks and mandrakes aren't usable

>>55069195
fuck off ADB

>>55069248
I think extremely slow armies aren't really present. Like something that has across the board slow as fuck units, but arent just really difficult to remove jerks or blobs.

>>55069252
Depends on what you want.
I personally vouch for Chaos, just because I'm bias towards my faction.
I don't know much about Dark Eldar this edition, but because of their aesthetic they'd be my go to non-Chaos army. Might be because I'm Slaaneshi though.
If you want robots you can use Helbrutes, Mutilators, Obliterators, Daemon Engines, and a Warpsmith HQ in Chaos.

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are the clown elves mary sues?

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>>55069252
Chaos

>>55069276
That's because extremely slow armies/units would/do need to be durable, otherwise they either need to be able to shoot the enemy off the board in 1-2 turns which is no fun or they get shot off the board in 1-2 turns which is no fun.

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>>55069280
You could ask captain Artemis.

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>>55069252
Dark Eldar

>>55069276
That'd be because slow, squishy with poor numbers isn't a playstyle as much as just trying to design the worst thing ever.

>>55069270
>mandrakes aren't usable
this isn't 7th edition any more

>>55069270
You have a very weird definition of shit, but please go on. Tell the rest of the class why Deldar are shit on their own.

>>55069280
What's with the baked beans?

>>55069297
I was thinking something that would get better the lower their numbers got. So say you deployed 20 units, slow, low in numbers, and weak. But the more they lose, the stronger they become. So essentially an army that gets stronger as the game progresses.

>>55069321
Find the part of the fluff that explicitly states Eldar don't solely subsist on baked beans that are the size of dogs.

>>55069280

Shadow spectres are one of my favorite models, and I'm always tempted to just get one.

>>55069330
First of all that would be way to hard to balance.

Secondly you said they couldn't be 'really difficult to remove jerks'. You can't then say they BECOME really difficult to remove jerks just because they take a few deaths.

Thirdly Lanchester Square, it wouldn't work in practice.

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>>55069246
Works for me

>>55069246
Doesn't that just mean they're out of stock? Aren't they currently reboxing a lot of the IG stock they had to have 8th ed rules booklets with them?

>>55069246
They are taking a lot of stuff down while they repackage everything.
It'll be back

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>>55069335
They are pretty sweet.

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What should i add to my 50 power Slaanesh
daemon list?

Deamon Prince of Slaanesh 11 power
The Masque of Slaanesh 4 power
Herald of Slaanesh 3 power
2 units of 10 Deamonettes 10 power
2 units of 5 Seekers 10 power
Exalted seeker chariot 5 power
= 43 power

Please no bully. I am new to the hobby

>>55069246
Every time something briefly is out of stock someone posts
>oh noes, im being squatted wtf gw

>>55069375
Here's hoping they're repackaging boxes with unit cards.

>>55069246
New guardsmen on the way!

>>55069374

Hopefully this is the case and they're just doing this to remove the old formation card or something. Getting a Russ, a guardsman squad, a commissar and a heavy weapons team for that price is a pretty solid value.

>>55069355
I meant difficult to remove in a traditional sense. Like defeating one would put it at a disadvantage in a locational sense (relocating, placing in an area with little value), but buff it stat wise.

>>55069381
Fuck. ShadowSEER, though I have always like the spectres

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currently writing the fluff for my dudes. just got done detailing how they obtained their vessel, a slaughter-class cruiser

wanted to ask since i eventually (once i actually build my renegade marines first) want a guard army, would it be far fetched in a guard regiment to say pay in supplies for a group of renegade marines to maybe help out from an ork waagh

dudes are like the a-team mixed with the diamond dogs a real batch of marines from any and all chapters who decide a fuck you to big E but dont wanna be the bitch to chaos full-on (using the renegades tactic from the CSM 8th codex)

>>55069382
A Seeker Chariot and another Herald would put you up to 50.

>>55069399
Yeah. So they become durable. That's specifically what you said they hadn't done. Because it wouldn't work if they weren't durable. It's just a difficult to balance, roundabout way of having a slow, durable army.

>>55069382
You don't really have many options, so probably just keep Buying SC! Boxes until you're sick of crabsloots. A Keeper of Secrets probably isn't bad

>>55069406
Always wanted to field them, but last ed I'd have to field two units and their fucking Phoenix lord, I don't like them THAT much.

>>55069415
You can become better statwise without becoming more durable. you could just be better at killing things, or imposing obstacles on other units.

Is a mono-Nurgle list even at a casual level just massive amounts of Plaguebearers with a Soul Grinder and Unclean One, Demon Prince, Herald?

>>55069386
All the other things tend to say "temporarily out of stock" if it's just something minor. I don't think the Guard is going away, I'm more just apprehensive this particular deal is gonna get axed.

>>55069421
My friend is interested in getting some recast, but I'm worried about their Spindliness. Z has them, but I don't know that I can trust him for that. MI, might be good. Sadly, Alpharius doesn't.

>>55069407
a legit guard regiment? that would be SUPER heretical, though universe is a big place so it could happen, though if the inquisition got whiff of such a thing there would be hell to pay.

>>55069437
Isn't that basically what ynnari are?

>>55069437
So then I draw you back to my first point. They'd either table the opposition in 1-2 turns or be tabled.

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>>55069381
I can't wait to paint these, I'm going to section off the armor/prism rifles and spray them with pearlescent gundam paint called Mr.Crystal Color. I'm just unsure if I want it in purple or blue. The bottom is over white instead of black which I think looks like a shimmering force field or something

>>55069454
Yeah.. resin is a awful material for them.

>>55069450
>is a mono-[insert god] list even at a casual level just massive amounts of [lesser daemon] with a Soul Grinder and [greater daemon], Demon Prince, Herald?

Yes. Don't forget [thing from SC! Box] as well!

There's already plenty of overlap

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>>55069454
Z spectres are fine

>>55069382
A Keeper of Secrets would be a decent beat stick that'd draw fire away from the rest of your army.
Why Power Level though?

>>55069461
Think Wackier, and with more thought on both sides

>>55069488
yo we can see where you had to GS them

>>55069488
>all that greenstuff
>fine
I suppose it could be much worse. Also, you missed a bubble on the front model's tassel. Also, did you clean them? They're still shiny, or does Z's stuff just have a permanent sheen,.

So I'm painting a BT Deathwatch boss man. In my head he went in as a Sword Brother but he's a Watch Master now. Does that mean his Templar shoulderpad would be red to reflect what he was when he left his chapter or the regular black and white to represent what he is now?

>>55069450
That and the Drones (the fly rider guys), yeah. You can also sprinkle in things like Soul Grinders, or even Forgefiend/Maulerfiends and stuff.

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>>55069069
Guys please respond?

>>55069069
>just really old prototype Blastmasters

>>55069096
>And a no human short of the emperor is going to have stronger psychic powers than a farseer
What about Ahriman? He's just a space marine and he's if not the most powerful mortal psyker in the setting then at least a close second.

>>55069497
It just seemed more simpler than points since i don't have to worry about war gear

>>55069540
Is that the case or are you mocking my ignorance?
pls no bulli I only joined the hobby recently, I joined roughly middle of last year I think.

>>55069515
>>55069517
They're not mine, found a review for them on r/yoyhammer. That guy's greenstuff job is dogshit though and he didn't bother warping the hoods back. These are much better than I was expecting. I would however prefer to buy them from MI if they aren't much more expensive.

>>55069548
Do you have people who use PL near you? Everyone I've heard uses points exclusively.

>>55069548
You don't have wargear.
Mind you in narrative games you're at a distinct advantage since you can summon for free but still.

>>55069555
Yeah. People mostly play power levels at my local gw

>>55069552
That's it.

As for the dread, the missile launcher arm none used is a easy flat surface to mount some speakers and trumpets and shit

>>55069517
The shiny surface is actually their Mold Release Agent, it's what lets the resin cleanly exit the mold. Normally you're supposed to thoroughly wash and scrub the models, since the MRA stops primer from properly adhering to the model, and thus ruining paint jobs.

I'm not the same guy, but I do have a lot of models from Z.

>>55069567
Oh okay. Sorry i am still new to this

>>55069568
God, you poor bastard.

>>55069138
Hes still half the size of a guardsman and would look retarded with a lasgun. Also perry minis have shit detail, gw models are 100 times crisper

>>55067885
Ok here's some of the changes proposed.

Alpha Legion

Battalion Detachment

Chaos Lord - Blade of the Hydra, Plasma Pistol - 81
Sorcerer - Force Sword, Plasma Pistol, Death Hex, Miasma of Pestilence, Mark of Nurgle - 109

Chaos Cultists x39 - Heavy Stubber x4, Mark of Nurgle - 172
Chaos Cultists x39 - Heavy Stubber x4, Mark of Nurgle - 172
Chaos Space Marines x20 - Plasma Gun x2, Combi-Plasma, Mark of Nurgle - 286

Helbrute - Missile Launcher, Twin Heavy Bolter, Mark of Slaanesh - 114
Helbrute - Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon, Mark of Slaanesh - 147

Chaos Bikers x6 - Chainswords, Meltagun x2, Combi-melta - 215
Raptors x10 - Plasma Gun x2, Combi-plasma - 211

Havocs x7 - Lascannon x2, Heavy Bolter, Autocannon - 191
Havocs x7 - Heavy Bolter x2, Lascannon, Autocannon - 131
Havocs x7 - Autocannon x2, Lascannon, Heavy Bolter - 171

Total - 2000
Command Points - 6

>>55069569
So I'll have an extra five Blastmaster dudes? Sweet.
I'll check my bits for the Chaos Rhino Dirge Casters to strap to my Helbrute.

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Do aura ability affect the unit/model they originate from?

Example: Will my Captain that rolled a 1 to shoot be able to reroll it?

>>55069568
PL is okay, but it relies on people not being cunts so be aware of that when you play. For random pick up games with non cunts its fine though. Wargear isn't a huge factor for daemons anyway, but with PL theres no reason not to take Icons and Instruments with every unit that can.

>>55069607
Yes.

>>55069607
Is he
A) In range
and
B) The right unit/Keyword type

>>55069597
needs more khorne beserkers and maulerfiends

>>55069607
yep, so long as they have the right keyword

>>55069488
Wow why Inceptors use one weapon? Is it las cannon?

>>55069614
>>55069615
>>55069621

Ahhhh ok. This is what I thought; thank you.

>>55069609
This
PL for fun, Points vs. people you'd actually rather not play.

>>55069518
Yes. Members in the Deathwatch often keep their personal heraldry.

>>55069624
I said they weren't mine..

>>55069635
Yes to which?

>>55069651
Whichever he prefers.

Technicly they take his old amour shoulder and move it to his mk8 armour.

>>55069659
Yeah but Sword Brothers wear red shoulderpads, but command wear the regular ones. I'm asking which would take precedence for a Templar who has been in the Deathwatch for a fair while, his Templar rank or his Deathwatch rank?

>>55069670
I think they teased showing new stuff off at Nova. Given DG will be releasing soon it'll have a big role but what will they teasr next?

>>55069698
Oops

>>55069616
>Khorne Berzerkers
>Alpha Legion

Is such a thing even possible?

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Why did GW make Grey Knights so ridiculously OP
this is retarded, baby carriers are immortal and can just teleport around with endless psychic shit

>>55069711
Because you can't into deep strike bubbles you cocksucker.

>>55069708
Yes and it's overpowered.

>>55069711
Codex creep

>>55068147
>implying GW isn't fudging the numbers
They will win.

Can you only have 1 artifact per army or detachment?

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>>55069711
>grey knights
>OP

Thoughts? currently 36 points spare im thinking of spending on a astropath

Patrol (CP +0) (Astra Militarum) [232 Pts]
Troops [128 Pts]
Tempestus Scions [128 Pts]
Chainsword, 5x Hot-Shot Lasgun [5 Pts], 4x Plasma Gun [28 Pts], Plasma Pistol [5 Pts], 10x Scions [90 Pts]
Elites [64 Pts]
Tempestus Command Squad [64 Pts]
4x Plasma Gun [28 Pts]
HQ [40 Pts]
Tempestor Prime [40 Pts]
Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod
'Faction
Regiment Selection
Cadian
Battalion (CP +3) (Astra Militarum) [732 Pts]
Troops [400 Pts]
Tempestus Scions [136 Pts]
Chainsword, 5x Hot-Shot Lasgun [5 Pts], 4x Hot-Shot Volley Gun [36 Pts], Plasma Pistol [5 Pts], 10x Scions [90 Pts]
Tempestus Scions [128 Pts]
Chainsword, 5x Hot-Shot Lasgun [5 Pts], 4x Plasma Gun [28 Pts], Plasma Pistol [5 Pts], 10x Scions [90 Pts]
Tempestus Scions [136 Pts]
Chainsword, 5x Hot-Shot Lasgun [5 Pts], 4x Hot-Shot Volley Gun [36 Pts], Plasma Pistol [5 Pts], 10x Scions [90 Pts]
Elites [212 Pts]
Tempestus Command Squad [84 Pts]
4x Meltagun [48 Pts]
Tempestus Command Squad [64 Pts]
4x Plasma Gun [28 Pts]
Tempestus Command Squad [64 Pts]
4x Plasma Gun [28 Pts]
HQ [120 Pts]
Tempestor Prime [40 Pts]
Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod
Tempestor Prime [40 Pts]
Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod
Tempestor Prime [40 Pts]
Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod
'Faction
Regiment Selection
Cadian

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Slowly working through my model backlog, finished some commissars and priests tonight. What are you guys working on?

>>55069739
>Has never picked up the codex

>>55069739
>shit out mortal wounds
>swords all deal d3 damage
>TP into rapid fire range with storm bolters, shoot 40000 times and charge
>big baddies are practically immortal
k

>>55069762
I have the second half a of Deathwatch squad started and I can't seem to get motivated enough to finish them or the big ass pile of stormtroopers next to them.

>>55069772
The only GK player I know which played it in 5th, 6th and 7th laments about how fucking awful and overcosted they are. The NDK is garbage.

>>55069786
Deathwatch are finicky like that. You wanna do lots but every model is so individual it's like painting a swarm of characters.

>>55069792
It's not helping that I'm taking it upon myself to name every member of Kill-Team Cortéz.

>>55069787
ever since the stormraven/flyers got nerfed GK are not competitive.

>>55066999
What would y'all think of a 40k game somewhere between Valkyria chronicles and x-com.

>>55069787
Then he's an idiot.
Paladins are cheap as shit, and basically unbeatable in combat against any other infantry unit
Smite spam on every unit is basically a guaranteed 5 kills per turn, on top of everything else
Base troops all get stormbolters, so they chew through infantry
And deathstars are super easy to make and stomp with

Only problem is tank hunting, but they can bring in fliers and razorbacks for that

>>55069807
The flier change had literally no effect on 99% of GK lists
what the fuck are you taking about?

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>>55069762
Getting started on my Daemon Prince

>>55069597
I fudged the havoc prices.

It's supposed to be...

171
156
166

>>55069831

that's going to look sick

>>55069807
Competitive meta is imperial soup anyway

>>55069572
Even after I clean mine they end up shiny

>>55069849
Sure do hope so! I've got plenty of spider parts to use, so it should be fun to build if nothing else.

>>55069796
Are you me?

I have a fucking name for every member of my 30 member strike force. It's rough.

rule of one is bullshit

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>>55069892
what the fuck

>>55069252
wtf anon this is my exact situation let me know what you decide so i can take it off my list

>>55069670
Right is his "personal space" as Templar, his deathwatch rank is on his left.

>>55068928
I'd like to see a huge cost reduction for the ridiculous 25 points crushing claws. Considering that they are more of an opportunistic sidegrade to scything talons rather than an upgrade, they should be the same cost roughly.

Also, more customization options! I want to be able to run Warriors with Boneswords and Rending claws. Or warriors with two deathspitters. Warriors are not good shots anyhow, having double the bad firepower would improve them somewhat.

>>55068837
Instead of 9 missiles maybe go 3 H-bolters 6 Lascannons

>about to start a game
>Opponent starts saying how unlucky he is, but he bought new dice for this game
>Oh it's going to be one of *those* games.

Seriously can wargamers please go and take a basic probability course ? Im so sick of playing against opponents who get hemmoroids every time they roll vaguely badly. It's a fucking dice game, don't play dice games if you don't want part of the game to be decided by the dice. Likewise maybe you just lost because your list is bad or you played badly? But no let's not have any personal responsibility and just blame a skewed view of statistical averages instead.

>>55069950
S'what you get for playing in a McGamestore.

>>55069950
Jesus Christ he's making small talk and trying to be funny.

I joke all the time about how badly I roll at times; it's fucking normal

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most popular between mono-daemon, deldar, and admech?
i feel like admech is probably the most popular recently due to codex
mono daemon probably least popular because theyre shit except for cheesy tzeentch shit
/tg/ makes deldar seem pretty popular but im not sure if that's a confirmation bias

>>55069966
>it's fucking normal
See thats where you went wrong

>>55069966
The entire game then revolved around how bad his dice were and how unlucky he was with every roll of a 1 on his side or a 6 on mine causing autistic levels of screeching to echo across the gaming club. Likewise in the game I played with someone else before him.

It's really common I've found and really frustrating to play against as the person you're playing has simultaneously given up but is also blaming you for it for being such a ' luck sack.'

>>55069966
I take it you've never played a game vs a Eyore?

The sort that will moan, groan, sigh and make a "never passed a ld roll" "failed, but what did I expect", or occasionally "oh wow it passed, but I'm sure it was just a fluke" at ever single diceroll.

>>55069966
Not him, and joking about bad dice rolls is standard practice, but man I do hate the guys that get actively upset about bad rolls and blame all and any losses on them

>>55069987
Great name for those type of players.

We have one eyore at our club who literally builds towers of dice out of every 1 he rolls in a game that sit in the corner as if evidence that the universe hates him. What's worse is he works in a bank, he should get probability. Likewise the other eyore was a fucking maths teacher.

it's quite sad...

>>55070001
>builds towers of dice out of every 1 he rolls in a game that sit in the corner as if evidence that the universe hates him
holy shit that is next level autistic but also probably kind of interesting to see at the end of a game

>>55069981
Mono daemon is pretty meh
Deldar is the oldschool bottom dog army
AdMech is the army for people that "want to be unique... like everyone else".

>>55069821
How are you fucking arguing that GK perform well against any competitive lists in the current meta?
Play a single game outside of your GW where 40 year old retards are playing with green bases

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>>55069762
Been trying to finish up some old Necromunda minis, but I'm getting a bit bored and may just put them away until the game comes out. Just in the mood to paint orks instead.

>>55069987
Oh god that's very different. When people have done that to me I just wipe them and don't play them again.

I thought he meant the guy was joking on and off about bad rolls, not rolling himself in a steaming shit-blanket of despair.

>>55070016
>Current meta is horde spam
>All grey knights get stormbolters base, and all their special weapons are anti-horde

Gee, fucking tough one I gotta say
Can't work out why they might be good

>>55070001
I must confess I'm a bit of a Eyeore myself, but I try to roll with it, if anything playing Orks has helped me build a resistance as even I'd get tired of moaning about the 2/3ds of all rolls that fail.

>>55069950
>Likewise maybe you just lost because your list is bad or you played badly?

Ehh, it can depend. Sometimes the dice just don't go in your favour. I played a game today where I failed 3 critical charges with Orks. And we're talking 6 and 7 inch charges here. Once that happened I didn't really have much of a chance, because the units I failed to charge then proceeded to blow my units off the board with shooting.

You can argue that I should have built my list differently but we're talking Orks here; you can't build for shooting because GW decided that handing every Imperial player double the shots whilst crippling Ork shooting was fair.

>>55070016
>Army wide smite
>Army wide rapid fire 2 weapons
>Army wide -3 ap cc weapons
>Op baby carriers you can sit your warlord in
>Multi wound psychic terminators


Yeah GK really need some help..

>>55069981
On /tg/ at least
>AdMech
>Dark Eldar
>Mono-Daemon

I see someone talking about Mono-Daemon about as much as Necrons on here. Sometimes it's a couple times in a single thread and others it won't be brought up at all for awhile.

>>55070027
storm bolters are not great retard and the only heavy worth taking now is the psilencer

>>55070050
Against hordes, yes they are.
Especially when you can give them +1 strength and AP with a stratagem
And guess what the psilencer is good at killing?
What's that? Hordes?

Now fuck off the end of my cock

>>55070045
The only AP-3 CC weapons are the sword and the hammer. But the rest are correct.

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How are Deathwatch doing ATM?
Last I checked they pretty much had you doing twice the work for OK'ish performance.

>>55070067
Maybe you'll understand when you stop playing against orks

>>55070132
DW are tied for dead last with Death Guard currently... and Death Guard are about to get their codex.

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>>55067557
Commanders.

>>55070150
Figured as much.
No wonder i can't shift em even in mint condition at half RRP

>>55068482
>>55068523
No. It really doesn't.

>>55070167
8th needs 0-1 options back.

>>55070171
Sit on them until Death Watch codex is your best bet.

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WIP Plague Drone.

Thoughts?

>>55070198
Try again

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>>55070198
Think it looks better like this.

>>55070036

Bad luck can obviously happen but it's a dice game and a casual one at that and it seems silly to choose to play a dice game then get upset that dice are random. If you want a balanced wargame play chess. There's also always something in a game you could have probably done differently to win blaming luck alone removes any form of introspection.

Though a lot of the time I think what people think is bad luck is just confirmation bias as they ignore when they do get lucky or perform within average and only focus on the bad. For example one eyore I played entirely looked over the turn his sentinel made 3 6+ saves in a row against lascannon hits because that would go against the narrative that he lost because of luck.

In respects to competitive play you can also do a lot to mitigate luck or make it work for you. That's why unit redundancy is important so you have a lot of units that individually may flop but together should perform averagely. Likewise you can play in such a way that takes advantage of your own potential to get lucky so that when you do it will be particularly significant.

>>55070186
Yeah, I was relying on them to fund the DG release, but it seems not.

Might do a "Buy now for half price, when the codex is teased it goes back to 90" deal.
Hope to trigger their panic shop impulse.

>>55070198
What are you priming/basing with? If you make stark thin line highlighting with a mix of catachan and rotting flesh it'd look great

>>55070171
Linky linky?

>>55070271
S'in continental Europe

>>55070278
So no linky linky? I'm in Australia. Half price Deathwatch makes what I need to finish my current list affordable.

Anyone have a list of recent tournament rankings?

>>55070310
http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2017/08/10/top-itc-tournament-lists-july-2017/

>>55070300
I doubt a link would help much as the sales post is in Danish.

I can write up a list of minis in a few minutes tho.

>>55070300
1 Watch Master

5 Vanguard veterans
3 Vanguard veterans

5 Deathwatch Terminators

5 deathwatch veterans
5 deathwatch veterans

3 Deathwatch Bikers

1 Deathwatch Razorback/rhino

Start Collecting Deathwatch set
(Watch captain Artemis, 10 vets, ven dred)

There also the Overkill team though they are assembled and converted to wear helmets.

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I thought the rules for deploying a transport with passengers was pretty simple, that putting down the transport with all the units inside it counted as one single turn of deployment and the next you just set up another unit as normal

But multiple people at the club insist that each unit starting the battle inside it still each consume a turn at deploying, and so that when I put my Battlewagon down carrying the Warboss and a unit of Meganobz, I had to let my opponents put down three units before I was able to deploy my next

Was this elaborated in an FAQ or are they talking garbage

>>55070213
>Bad luck can obviously happen but it's a dice game and a casual one at that and it seems silly to choose to play a dice game then get upset that dice are random

Whilst that's true, and a different topic to the discussion, what I find very frustrating in 8th edition is the ability of some armies to largely negate the luck factor. Today I fought a Salamanders player who just had rerolls everywhere. Aside from his 1 free reroll to hit and wound per squad, he also had rerolls on melta and flamers, and from his chapter master. Same with a chaos player I played before that; it was depressing to watch him hitting on 2+ with rerolls of 1. I mean at that point it stops being luck and just becomes near certainty. The fact that my army, Orks, has virtually no rerolls, does make that sting a bit more I must admit, but it's also really not fun when the luck element is taken out of the game with excessive rerolls.

>>55070403
IIRC dedicated transports deploy with their unit as one "choice", characters have to be stuffed in later and optional transports are piecemeal.

>>55070403
They are all idiots
When you set up the transport, you can declare that any number of units are in there (Up to the transport capacity obviously) and it's just one deployment

>>55070403
You declare what units are embarked on a transport when you set that transport up. The rules for transports explicitly state the the units inside are not setup separately.

>>55070415
Dedicated transports are no longer attached to specific units.

>>55068789

25 conscript x4 => 50 conscript x2

Master of ordance => Harker or Yarrik
Colossus => Heavy quad launchers
Basilisk => Manticore
ML HWT => AC or LC HWT

>>55068900
>Probably a special tank like Deathguard are getting.

A rhino with 5++ and all is dust would be neat

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>>55070403

Taken from "Warhammer 40K Designer's Commentary" pdf.

>>55069195

What is a man?!

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How do we fix Purifiers /tg/? 1 extra attack? 6" purifying flame? Teleportation access? Maybe 1 extra wound?

>>55070403
assholes. just tell them to read the transport section of the battle primer

>>55070515
>shilling transports this hard
Fuck you GW.

>>55070564
It doesn't matter how many times you read a thing if you've already decided how to interpret it.

>>55070559

+1A +3" flame

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what would a statline for pic related look like in 8e? Something like this?

M/WS/BS/S/T/W/A/Ld/Sv
7"/2+/2+/3/3/5/5/9/3+/(4++/6++)
faction keywords: imperium/adeptus ministorum/adeptus sororitas/order of the martyred lady/Harlequins
keywords: character/ infantry/Psyker/Ephrael Stern

Act of Faith, Shield of Faith


Hunted by the Inquisition: Ephrael Stern cannot join any army with units that have the <Ordo Malleus> keyword.

Bane of Slaanesh: Ephrael can reroll all hit rolls made against units with the <Slaanesh> keyword. In addition, DAEMONs with the <Slaanesh> keyword must subtract 1 from their invulnerable saves when wounded by this unit.

Resurrection: If this model is slain, at the start of each of the controlling player's turns, roll a D6. On a 5+, at the end of the movement phase Ephrael returns to the battlefield and can be placed anywhere that is more than 9" from an enemy unit.

weapons:
Krak Grenades, Frag grenades, bolt pistol
Sword of Ephrael: S+3, AP-3, D1


Psyker: Ephrael Stern can attempt to manifest three psychic powers in each friendly Psychic Phase, and attempt to deny three psychic powers in each enemy Psychic phase. She knows the Smite power and all powers from the
Daemonifuge discipline. In addition, Ephrael Stern cannot suffer Perils of the Warp

DAEMONIFUGE:
1: foresight: Foresight has a warp charge value of 7. If manifested, Ephrael adds 1 to all her save rolls until the next friendly psychic phase.

2: Screaming Cage: has a warp charge value of 7. If manifested, roll 2D6.The closest enemy unit within 18”of Ephrael Stern suffers a mortal wound for each point that the total exceeds their Leadership. If the unit is a DAEMON, roll 3D6 instead.

3: Webway gate: has a warp charge value of 7. If manifested, target friendly HARLEQUINS unit within 18" is removed from the battlefield and can immediately set up anywhere that is more than 9" from an enemy unit.

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>>55070581

>>55070573
Not if you show them the FAQ that clearly lays it out

>>55070496
You can probably expect either some sort of close range Warpflamer vehicle or some sort of Soulreaper Autocannon predator equivalent.

Both of which would be really cool, actually.

>>55070638
How many FAQ's do that and not muddy the water even further with inept examples and poor phrasing?

>>55069450
And Epidemius

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Can I use a Jugger Lord in a World Eaters detachment? He's not in the codex

>>55070652
Most of them

Look how clear this is >>55070515

>>55069597
What's the plan with the huge marine unit? Infiltrate in and go in Combat?

>>55069711
My 30p Malefic Lord destroyed a Dk grand master in melee, grey Knights can get fucked m8

>>55069178
Malcador was as mortal as they come and by all accounts the guy was pretty gud.

>>55070661
Yes you can, get it from the index. Why, though? He's shit.

>>55070691
Off the top of my head we have Malcador and Ahriman both with powers that would put most if not all farseers to shame, but Eldarfags would never admit that.

>>55070713
For some reason people seem to forget that humans have the most potent individual psykers, but eldar in general are more likely to be gifted and less likely to accidentally turn themselves and their star system into spawn by sneezing.

>>55070710
Y-you're shit!

>>55070713
>The two most powerful human psykers are slightly more powerful than the average farseer

Damn man
Humans got us beat again!

>>55070730
Hey, if you get a good way of running him, I'd love to hear it. I just don't see it.

Probably a stupid question about the PDFs with the errata. What's the deal with the blue strike through, is there a way to show the updated text like when you hover/click the yellow boxes?