Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for MSPaint formation infographs!

I wish Iron Warriors got anything ever

>>55059852
First for Yvraine queen of the Imperium of Man

So anons, how meta is your faction? Do you win turnies, or are you left in dust?

>>55059889
I generally dont lose just through volume of never dying. Necrons are good despite what people say.

repostan, can somebody rate the list and gib me tips? first time i go to a tourney
Im playing a 2v2 tommorow, each player gets 1k points to spend.

Alpha legion 999 pts

Batallion Detachment
+HQ

Chaos Terminator Lord 124pts
1x combi-plasma
1x power axe

Sorcerer 121pts
1x combi-plasma
1x force axe
Tzeentch

+Troops

5x Chaos marines 101pts
1x Missile Launcher
1x Combi flamer
3x boltgun

5x Chaos marines 101pts
1x Missile Launcher
1x Combi flamer
3x boltgun

10x Cultists 48pts
9x autogun
1x heavy stubber

+Elite

5x Terminators 255pts
5x Combi Plasma
5x Power axes

Helbrute 114pts
Twin heavy bolter
Missile Launcher

+Fast attack

3x Chaos Bikers 135pts
2x plasmagun
1x combi-plasma
3xbolt pistol


What warlord trait and relic should I use? I want termi lord to be my HQ
I thought about Unholy fortitude + intoxicating elixir.
All units but sorcerer are Slaneesh.

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>>55059852
Very soon

>>55059805
Honestly, he's not going to be too safe on tanks. He absolutely will not be able to take them out by himself, not even one, so unless they have some bad positioning, he's gonna get shot up the next turn.

Even combining lascannons with him to make sure vehicles are dead, you would probably be better off my just focusing vehicles with cannons and using that -4 AP to ruin the days of any particularly elite infantry squads (which he can definitely solo unless they're rocking an invulnerable save)

>>55059880

The got legion rules, traits, stratagems, relics, and they still have the best traitor color scheme. Hell, they got the best color scheme out of all the legions, save for perhaps the Dusk Raiders before Mortarion showed up and made them all snot/puke-green.

>>55059936
Use chainswords on the bikers because their primary armament is more than good for shooting. Gives them a chance to do something if they get charged.

Elixir is a good bet. Pushes you into 6str to mulch GEQ

>>55059936

I don't understand the combi flamer on the csm. Couoled with missile launcher is a waste of points imo, as the missile launcher should be sitting back 48" from anything, shooting it, while the flamer is the exact opposite. As a charge deterent it's fine, I guess but you're still not using it up to it's potential.
The rest seems solid, but maybe consider dropping the flamers for an extra bike to give your precious plas some padding?

>Lord of Flux: All enemies within 12" treat all terrain, even open ground, as difficult terrain. Any unit that runs, moves flat out, turbo-boosts, or charges within this bubble must take Dangerous Terrain.

So what will Magnus' Warlord Trait do in 8th?

>-1 to be hit from more than 12" away

I'm thinking about taking a bunch of chosen with Combi-flamers. Am I retarded?

>>55060096
Yes. You should do it though.

>>55060088
I could see them doing a "any movement within 12' of Magnus is treated as double the normal amount of distance covered"

GAMES WORKSHOP JUST REMOVED ALL FACTION KEYWORDS FROM LEGACY WARSCROLL UNITS

EXPECT ALL NON-CODEX UNITS TO RECEIVE THE SAME TREATMENT IN TIME

>>55059971
That's a good idea. I already have plenty of anti-infantry though. Flamers out the ass, lightning claws, murder sword biker lord, DP with axe, ExChamp with powerfist, and a berzerker squad loaded up to the gills with chainaxes. I'm unsure of how to build this guy in general.

Powerfist and elixir would make him do pretty great damage against most things, chainfist just makes that better, just.. maybe I'm too anti-infantry saturated.

>>55060166
source?

>>55060004
Combi bolters + 2xplasma+combi-plasma definitely is enough shooty. I'll give them chainswords thanks.
>>55060036
I wanted to make them antichargers, but I see your point about mixing them with ML. I don't have more bikers so I'll drop the heavy stubber and just give csm squads combi plasmas.

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Post dudes

>>55060166
I'm pretty sure we knew this was going to happen.

the indexes are for 8th most likely they will go away in 9th.

rip my techmarine on a bike.

>>55060166
Whaddya getting at?

>>55060189
They just released the updated warscroll compendiums. Literally ALL legacy warscrolls lost their faction keywords including the entire Bretonia and Tomb Kings armies.

>>55060166
Thats exactly what's going to happen to units that were left in the index after that goes out of print next edition or sooner, this isnt news.

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>>55059879
OH GOD THEY'RE COMBINING

>>55060112
I just figured that flamers were largely shit because of range, and combi-flamers are still cheaper than other special weapons, so why not, right? Chosen already have 2 attacks, so I can use them to clear away infantry pretty well.

>>55060206
cute dudes

>>55060253

So those armies are illegal now?

Bretonia was cool :/

>>55060247
>Literally just finished assembling a biker lord ala Doomrider with a nice custom base
u wot?

>>55060303
flamers get fucked by overwatch range, so you end up paying for something you might not even get to use.

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>>55060206

rate my first model

Just picked up a start collecting box, some infiltrators and an ironstrider. Help me on what i should do next. Kastelans are really powerful i hear.

>>55060337
my condolences. use him while you can

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Can I take a Great Unclean One in a 1000pt game as mono-Nurgle?

>>55060339

You won't regret buying Kastellans. Ever.

And nice job imo, he looks fuckin menacing.

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Hey /tg/, did you get to play any fun games today?

I tried the new mission, crimson slaughter vs the imperial fists. I deployed all my guys carefully in to ruins to remember he ignored cover.
But then he deployed, 5 squads of 10 marines in a perfect 2 by 5 block of marines all next to each other with two captains and a lieutenant in the middle, marching one behind the other. Just a tide of yellow marines marching forward with flamers and missile launchers.

But then my helbrute came in, he survived four lascannons, ran up to their lines, survived four missile launchers before throwing himself in to the enemy lines, tearing a captain apart and surviving near 20 marines trying to punch him to death.

>>55060411
you can do whatever you want.

follow your dreams senpai

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>>55060357
If push comes to shove, I'll get some bikers and run him as their champion I guess..

>>55060338

Just pop em in a rhino with a dedicated melee squad and use them to clear a path where need for said melee guys.

Why does GW encourage conversions while also stripping fluffy options from codices? It seems really stupid.

>>55060411
Yes, he's a standard HQ choice. Smallest army to have him in would be him and one unit of troops so he could easily fit in to 500 points.

>>55060325
No. Just only playable in a Grand Alliance so you get no faction rules if you use them.

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What is this thing?

>>55060462
two pipes banded together

>>55060428
I did, actually. I went to my local GW store to pick up some paints and decided to take a test-game for 8th.

It was fun. Doesn't seem like a game I would play seriously (or sober), but it's fun.

>>55060462
Loota

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>>55060428
With their formation broken, the marines scattered.
Using what firepower they had they killed the sorcerer and the helbrute stopping short of the last bit of open ground before they escaped the board edge.

>>55060462
my first guess would be some kind of stub gun or shotgun from necromunda

>>55060462
Orks, Necromunda or Traitor Guard.

>>55060422

Thanks! What weapons should i run for the kastelans? Fists or phosphors, flamers or more phosphors? What combo works best?

Also, anyone have a tip on which ironstrider to build? Lots of options there too.

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>>55060483
Marines smashed in to marines (the daemons didn't last a second, unfortunatly) and it was a brutal fight on both sides.
Kranon ran in with his murder sword and slapped the captain down to one wound, captain attacked taking him to down to four wounds. His marines took Kranon down to two and captain attacked again doing four damage, just when I thought it was all over I rolled his FnP only to get three sixes! Kranon lived to finish off the captain and chop up 6 of the marines over 2 turns winning the game.

And that was it, a win for chaos.

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>>55059886
No. Yvraine is for Aeldari only.

>>55060462
New Ork boyz kit or Necromunda.

>>55060514
Honestly looks very fantasy-ish. Could be more dorfs.

>>55060166
This, my friends, is how Squatting works.

>>55060550
They are still usable, Anon.

>>55060462
Necromunda or admech stuff

or possibly AOS stuff I don't fucking know about that shit

>>55060569
Squats were "usable" throughout 2nd Ed. 40k too.

>>55060166
>slow institutionally planned removal
Muh old model genocide!!!

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>>55060411
Can't see why not.

>>55060462
Orks, Necromunda, or AoS Dwarves probably.

>>55060569
If the index units that aren't in the codex get their faction keywords removed, how does that affect your army in 40k?

Say my biker lord got made "illegal", including him anywhere would remove my battleforged status and disallow me from getting any CP or legion traits etc?

>>55060550
I remember the day they removed the Squat keyworld from the 3rd Edition Index Imperium. They tricked us all into going to Games Workshop, they said there were plastic Sisters of Battle, but when we got there the Blueshirts were going from neckbeard to Neckbeard with a black marker. Thousands of Key Words were lost that day. Literally dozens of players were left without an army.

I will never forgive Games Workshop for what happened on 9/11/2001.

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>>55060626
Can Tau be infected by Nurgle's plagues. If so, can there be Tau poxwalkers?

>>55058266
"Thank the Emperor! Reinforcements have arrived! Greetings Honorable Battle Brother! Are you ready to purge these filthy heretics? ...What's that smell?"

>>55060626
That art's cool. Where is it from?

>>55060671
Yes, even Necrons can be poxwalkers. Even two if they try hard enough.

>>55060671
Toxwalkers.

>>55059936
Chaos sorc with TDA and Slaanesh. Take FnP power and prescience.

DS terminators (also slaanesh), lord and sorc. Cast fnp on termies, cast prescience on termies. They're now hitting on 2+ re-rolling 1's.

Use the endless cacophony strat on the termies for 10 extra overcharged plasma shots that still hit on 2+ and re-rolls ones.

>>55060626
When did Mortarion fight the Tau?

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>>55059852
high rez version in case people want to use it as a wallpaper or something

which army is the most vaporwave?
which army is the most synthwave?

hey guys the new bloke from a few threads ago here just bought the start collecting imperal guard set is it better to just get the citadel glue? or do i use any old glue from a shop?
and is it still codexes that are needed to buy or not? or is it those index things?

>>55060692
On his way to pick up an anchovie pizza.

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>>55060521
Kastelans should be all Phosphor on every possible weapon mount, all the damned time. Switch them to Protector Protocols and fire 18 S6 Ap-2 D1 Ignore Cover shots per extremely tough model, they're the best unit we have in that configuration. I only have two, but they've pretty much won me games on their own.

Ironstrider variants are all pretty much equally meh, but I like my Riot Control Lance/Phosphor Serpenta Dragoon twins because they're surprisingly durable and can be used to bully anti-infantry hordes like Daemonettes away from your lines, as well as take anti-tank fire for your Dunecrawlers. Also good for objectives, but don't expect them to really kill anything other than a couple light infantry or a Marine here and there.

I'm curious, are Primaris space marines any good? I've been thinking about getting into the game and they come in the starter kit.

>>55060701
Noise Marines.

>>55060691
Might as well as pop Vets of the Long War to add +1 To Wound so you're hitting on 2+/rr'ing 1s and Wounding on 2+.

As since VOTLW lasts until the end of the phase. You can use it for your second round.

>>55060705
unless you know the glue is high quality, I would go with GW's stuff.

Also Indexes are like shit codexes, they're making their way through the armies to give them all codexes. IG will get their codex this year.

>>55060534
Is the visarch a jojo reference?

>>55060709
They're like two marines stapled together. The problem is that they still have one weapon and there's too many multi-damage weapons in the game.

They look cool though.

>>55060718
noise marines are hair metal

>>55060663
They still have the order keyword so your biker would have the Chaos keyword. You would use the generic Chaos traits and stuff.

>>55060692
Tau are MacCragge adjacent. Makes sense to me.

>>55059936
Also, bikers, take 2 flamer and a c-flamer with chainswords.

Warlord trait should OBV be the AL one, we are alpharidudes or whatever is called.

Give the lord a maul and take the Black Mace.

Drop the ML and give your alphas plasmas.

>>55060705
Don't buy any Index's. Download them from the Mega in the OP and/or get Battlescribe and print your list from there.

>>55060734
Some are. Some aren't.

>>55060705
Revell Contacta Professional.

Accept no substitutes.

Currently IG/AM don't have a codex so it's Index Imperium 2 that you need.

>>55060671
Yes. We're not immune to Chaos, just hard to find in the warp, so we're ignored more.

>>55060740
Except Tau and Ultramarines never fight.

Its probably because both factions have huge plot armour. Tau because they're small and if they lose, they kinda lose forever and Ultramarines cuz billy the 12 year old can't have his blue guys lose.

>>55060758
In Fire Warrior they get along.

Scythes are a really stupid weapon.

I know I know, rule of cool. Still, it's not an effective weapon.

>>55060733
What about the Death Guard, then? Are they more viable?

>>55060721
Only worth if you're shooting at high T targets or at something that needs to die very badly.

>>55060708

Cool. I've been interested in at least fielding one, which is why i bought them. And i did buy one especially because i am using taser goads on my infiltrators and would like to have the chicken have a huge-ass taser lance to bully with too. Is it worth magnetizing the kit to have both the ballistari and the dragoon option available you think?

>>55060778
Death Guard are strong and only getting stronger with their Codex next month.

>>55060778
We don't know yet. If the other Primarchs are anything to go by, their codex may be one of the best.

https://mega.nz/#F!gaBiVTKI!HTOuNx5zzNxHqT-ny-AU3A

New mega I've been working on to combine everything into 1

>>55060674
vk

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>>55060701
None. 40k doesn't have a lot of '80s vibes. SM armor could be cool though

Will GW make a deathguard or 1k sons start collecting box?

>>55060626
Nice to see these blueberry fucks facing primarch, they have no chance.

>>55060824
My wife's thousand sons already have one.

>>55060626
>>55060698
I am excited by the Death Guard but I do wonder if we will keep options like bikes, predators and vindicators. I like/need support of tanks. Can FW do something in this regard?

>>55060822
well what about vaporwave
that's 90's

>>55060824
Dark Imperium might as well be the DG start collecting box, just gotta sell the marines it comes with.

>>55060786
If you're unloading 10-20 plasma shots and already spent 2 CP to shoot again, you might as well as spend one more CP to increase your effectivness.

>unless you're shooting T3.

>>55060824
Yes.

>>55060843
Just about everything from the Heresy is now available for 40k chaos.

>>55060849
Or turn the primarus marines into deathguard like people do with dark vengeance

>>55060839
no they dont

>>55060844
Maybe admech converted with CRT monitors and stuff could be fun

>>55060824
Possibly eventually.

>>55060883

My infiltrators and cawl have those egg-white monitors and speaker systems.

>>55060339
Fantastic first model. Is it your own OC forge World?

>>55060339
>Kastelans are really powerful i hear.
pick the models u like not whats powerful on the table

>>55060904
That sounds kick ass. Pics?

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>>55060883
Am I the only one who wishes beep boops were more gritty cyberpunk than steampunk?

>>55060905

Yeah, i intend for all my models to have those disgusting white robes. They'll be having mars bases though, and i like the mars vibe, so i'm just really playing mars but with a different robe color scheme and more grit.

I'm excited to see how my Cawl turns out, i intend to paint him in the same way.

>>55060929
>Am I the only one

kys reddit

>>55060767

But that was because plot. The Librarian in the Ultramarines party had a vision where Chaos attacks (and he dies) and held the Ultras back from deploying alongside the Raptors for as long as possible. Right up until the point where Chaos attacks, last second literally, the Ultras were just itching to start crushing blue skulls.

Only when the Librarian martyrs himself for the prophecy that saved their adamant-clad butts does the Ultra commander take that shit seriously, and decides to give allying with La'Kais and the Tau a shot.

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>>55060701
Dark Eldar are pretty Synthwave. Lawless, hedonistic techno metropolis. Cartels, and street gangs and hover racing through the spires of the city. Drugs and deathsport. Body modification and black leather.

I don't think anything feels Vaporwave though. Maybe Ultramarines in their old 2nd ed. primary colors scheme.

>>55060736
Wait so they'd lose <LEGION> so if I included him in, I lose the legion trait then?

>>55060758
>Except Tau and Ultramarines never fight.
ultramarines are usually present in the larger invasions against the tau

It's just their attention is usually directed towards actual threats, since the ultramarines are kind of high profile dudes.

>>55060866
Which FW index is this? I have to look for it (thanks anon)

>>55060792
I'm usually all for magnetizing things, but in this case it would probably be a tremendous faff given that you'd need like six tiny magnets just to switch between the two unit types, let alone all the weapons.
I would say don't bother in this case, and having all those spare lascannon and autocannon around might be nice for conversions.

>>55059880
I mean, they have a fuck of a lot of forgeworld stuff.
Your chaos space marine sub-faction gets more than most other factions entire get from FW.

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Has anyone done an equivalent chart of all the different Primaris weapons?

>>55060956
Great taste, my dude.

>>55060919

Still working on them, haven't used any washes. I'll post when they're done!

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>>55060956
>Maybe Ultramarines in their old 2nd ed. primary colors scheme.

For reference. The fact that these guys are the retro scheme but on very modern style bases is part of what gives me the vaporwave feel .

>>55060961
Maybe, there's nothing similar that they originally had in AoS, so I can't know for sure.

>>55061055
I wanna see some primaris done like that

>>55060917
I picked knights because I like big stompy mechs and /tg/ calls me a fag.

>>55060721
tourney allows me only one stratagem per turn, but ill keep that in mind for the future

>>55061075
More than one Knight has a tendency to turn the game into more of just a stat check rather than an interactive game.

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Thunderbolt anon here, all pieces are present and there's only a little bit of flash and one small case of slip, pretty surprised at how well everything looks, worst bend is this wing flap but that'll bend back
This is an awesome looking model, it looks like a muscle car had sex with a WWII fighter

why are the red scorpions said to be nazis?

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>>55060206

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>>55060985

Sounds good. Here's an interesting picture though. The strider on the right has both the taser goad and the twin cannon, and i don't think it looks off. I'll probably just assemble it like that and stab any sweaty nerd who complains at tournaments.

>>55061107
Genetic purity is their schtick.

>>55061137
>Genetic purity is their schtick.
You'd be worried about your genetic purity if your Primarch was Fulgrim

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>Things that would ruin 40k

Criticisms on my 1k Dread List needed.

HQ-Cati Captain, Pwr Swrd, combi flamer-141

Elites-6
Dread 1- AC-CCW-133

Dread 2 and 3 -Mmelta-CCW-139

Ironclad- Hammer-CCW-Flamer-157

Dread 5 and 6- Twin Las-Missiles-145

Tactics-Ironhands

>>55061104
yeah, didn't know that back when i bought them. everyone just told me to buy what I like.

ended up with 2 knights that just collect dust.

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>>55060206
Get out, chaosfags. This thread is for the pure only.
ps I really like your daemon orks, look great anon

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>>55059852
So the Flail can potentially give 4D3 hits (assuming you roll 3 hits with all 6s to hit at first)?
I just wish the DTTFE rule wasn't against imperium only, it's an okay little special rule.

>>55060822
Now I'm seriously tempted to paint up a spare marine in that scheme. Damn your eyes, sir.

>>55061153
I just checked, it's generic space marines like in Aliens or Doom, not GW space marines.

>>55061153
I know that ain't GW, but what the hells is that?

>>55060206
Nice Fel Orcs you got.

>>55061107
They probably think people deserve free speech or voted for a conservative
Idk Nazi is a pretty catch all term these days

>>55061163
Rename Death to the False Emperor to
Fury of the Dark Gods.

Now let it affect all targets not just IMPERIUM

>>55060698
Thanks a'non.

>>55061163
Correct, think of using prescience to make DTTFE trigger on the roll of a 5 or 6.

>>55061163
And if someone doesn't get it; the flail states that 1 attack gives D3 hits, so each extra attack with the weapon should give another D3 hits. So this has to be intended, right?

>>55061153
As someone who's taken several creative arts classes in college this isn't very surprising

>>55061153
Things that ruin everything.

>People with disabilities kicking butt in space.
A dreadnought?

But fuck all this endless war and shit. I want to hear asexual and trans perspectives on childbirth.

>>55060705
GW plastic glue tends to sometimes make pretty weak bonds so I'd suggest other brands for plastic glues. I think it's Index Imperial 2 for Imperial Guard.

>>55061163

That's how I read it. Each time you use an attack you roll for d3 hits, rather than just assuming one.

Also looks like it's "Hit Rolls" so you still have to make those hits, but given the WS of the model carrying it, more attacks are probably going to go through than get filtered out.

>>55060757
>we're
real life tau??
on 4chang?!

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>>55060206
>>55061161
GKBros ASSEMBLE!!!

>>55061063
Fuck. This worries me. I don't know why they wouldn't allow a bit of variety in their HQs, what the fuck is the problem in giving them bikes? Where's the sense in it?

Regardless, as long as they share a keyword I guess I'll have to sacrifice a troop choice for a patrol detachment to keep my legion traits but also keep him as a killy lord.

>>55061130
Yeah, I did that for my first Dunecrawler, I just mounted both the missile pod and the Neutron Laser to count as either. Think the other two will just be magnetized, though, since it might look OK as a "Clade Leader" type thing.

>>55061153

Well all of my admech are basically amputees.

>>55061154
>HQ-Cati Captain, Pwr Swrd, combi flamer-141

Why not a chaplain dreadnought?.

>>55060824
Theres the 3 8th Getting Started kits that GW released like Dark Imperium that come in different sizes. So DG kind of already have 3?ish. Not sure if they'll get a proper one but I'd imagine TS will one day. I'd probably pick that up and the a proper DG one.

>>55060838
>tau vs the most pathetic loser of a 'primarch'
>expecting tau to lose
There's a reason not even his own legion respects him

>>55061106
That's an easy fix with some hot water, too. FW kits are usually either near-perfect, or Finecast-tier abortions, so congrats on the clean kit.

>>55060843
You get a plague tank instead of a vindicator.

So we all know that DG will get 5+ FnP for their Legion Trait. However, what do you expect for TSons to get? Mind, it has to be something that is useful for Tzaangors as well.

Maybe rerolls 1s to damage?

>>55060843
They should still have all the normal tanks plus their new one. Bikes probably not. Bikes are out of character for them.

>>55061268
Don't have one and felt it would be hard to fit in at this point level comfortably.

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>>55061191
>>55061137
>>55061150
im looking to get into them since the nazi aesthetic would be cool and crazy perfectionists sounds cool. (im also a huge ec fan so fulgrim being the primarch is awsome)

>>55061297
+1 to invulnerable saving throws

>>55061272
I feel FW goes out of their way to send me shit

>>55060626
https://youtu.be/N_MOhGVgRME

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>>55060758
What? The T'au Empire would wreck Ultramar's shit in one vs one fight. They are a rock throw away from Ultramar. A T'au invasion of Ultramar will happen sooner or later because Ultramar is in the way of their expansion.

Anyways, Ultramarine had many battles with the T'au. In fact the most chapter they fought against in their history.

>>55061153
>Battle...sibling Victimus, your absence was noted at today's HR gathering. You are to report to the High Chaplain and xis midpartner immediately.

>Daemonettes can hurt T8+ on 6s which is auto-resolved at AP-4
>Also 2 attacks each, 3 if 20+ models and always fight first
I'm gonna need more cocaine for this shit

>>55060671
I expect them to be hard to infect because Nurglite diseases are spiritual and mental. Most Nurgle diseases infect the hopeless and the faithless. Things that the T'au are not.

>>55061130
That is nice. Sadly I already assembled mine

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>>55061369

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>>55061369
>The T'au Empire would wreck Ultramar's shit in one vs one fight.

Is a Phantine air corps/Harakoni Warhawks themed list likely to be too cheesy even built for fluff? They seem cool and I like the idea of an air superiority force.

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My next match will be against a Grey Knights army with my Nurgle-focused Chaos army.

Tell it to me straight /tg/, do I even stand a chance or should I just kms?

>>55061411
Ain't no bait. Seeing the T'au's performance in Kauyon and Mont'ka shows they can wreck face. Look at the map. The Tau are as large as Ultramar. Ultramar on its own without support from the Imperium would get BTFO.

>>55061384
>deal some 4 wounds to a land raider if lucky
>it just backs off and shoots you up with it's chums

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>>55061272
Yes, I figured FW would just be an expensive step up from china but it is way more, they are really good molds and the resin feels way less flimsy, also knowing I had the ability to send prices that were shit back felt comforting, also believe it or not my shit was actually inspected, which is surprising seeing as people say FW has no CC
Also even FW admits resin is AIDS dust so hope that puts that argument to an end

>>55061443
"Nurgle-focused" or "Death Guard"?

>>55061443
It actually isn't that bad, just keep them away from your demon engines

>>55061447
>tau snags up empty slots left by warpfart
>actually think they are relevant
haha, oh alrighty then hahahahah

>>55061375

>In the grim dark future

Oh God. They've discovered an even darker future.

>>55061153
>Women want to ruin a fictional religious institution by inserting women into the priesthood despite the existence of nuns
It's just like real life

>>55061106
The thunderbolt's one of their earlier models, too. It's aged wonderfully.

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How are the dark eldar books? Trying to get some inspiration for my dudes, figured I'd give them a read if they weren't absolute trash,

>>55061488
It's a good series. Give it a read.

>>55061488
Path of the Dark Eldar series is a solid 10/10. The prefect blend of edgefest and "according to Keikaku" to make the Dark Eldar very palatable.

>>55061411 I dunno, man. Read it again.

>>55061369
>Ultramarines begin to fortifying the eastern bounds of their realm against the emergent forced of the upstart T'au Empire.
>...the eastern bounds of their realm
>...eastern bounds
>T'au Empire is to the galactic north-west of Ultramar

>>55061467
What? The Damocles Gulf is an empty void filled with nothing but space gases. The Tau sailed passed it and claimed the systems on the other side of it. Those systems are said to be resource rich and their possession would allow the T'au to triple the size of their empire. TRIPLE!

>>55061465
Not Death Guard, just Chaos with a bunch of plague marines, herald of nurgle, plaguebearers and others.

>>55061466
>every GK unit is a psyker
>everyone has -4 weapons base
>everyone is +2 Sv

Fuuuuuuuuuck.

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>>55061488

There's an omnibus if you're the kind of guy that loves massive tomes.

Oh, and I too wonder if these books are considered good.

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How did the Salamanders go so right? They're like the only legion that doesn't do any shady shit.

>>55061503
>North, east, west, south
>in space

Nigga please

>nurgle and morty
>HEY MORTY *uuuurp* I NEED YOU TO DO SOME ADVENTURES FOR ME OKAY *burrp* WE'RE GOING TO ULTRAMAR MORTY

>>55061518
WE

>>55061518

Setting people on fire is shady.

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>>55061369
>Tau "Empire"
Citation needed.

>>55061508
Force weapons are -3 base. And "everyone" ends up being no more than 30 models on a regular basis.

>>55061528
Like unironically though they actually care about humanity and doing the right thing.

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>Most Death Metal faction in 40k?
>Most Black Metal faction in 40k?
>Most Power Metal faction in 40k?
>Most Industrial Metal faction in 40k?
>Most Noise Metal faction in 40k?
>Most Symphonic Metal faction in 40k?

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>>55061153
To this day I still don't know what "intersectional" is, and I get a morbid enjoyment out of not looking it up, because I'm almost fully certain that the people who use the term don't exactly use it correctly either.

>>55060822
Oh man I've got those primaris from First Strike sitting around, I think I know what I'm doing with them now.

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>>55061547
There is only one answer

>>55061549
It just means like overlapping catagories of victimhood. Like a gay mulatto in a wheelchair.

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>>55061526
>Reddit and morty
we are on 4chan so I'm not allowed to admit I like rick and morty but that made me giggle anon

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>>55061526
>Y-Y-You can't just sit on your ass for ten-thousand years, Morty. Your *uuuuuuurp* Legion is losing respect for you, Morty. They have to fear you, Morty.

>>55061528
>he thinks Salamanders WUZ BLAK KANGZ

Daily reminder Salamanders are only black in the sense that their skin pigmentation is literally ashen or obsidian black, not their facial features. They're just white guys with a black face coat.

>>55061532
its consensual in regards to the captain ritual.

>>55061513
>>55061488
They're mostly good, if you can ignore the comic relief character ruining the tone of every scene he's in as he benny-hills his way across commorragh.

And no, the comic relief character isn't the harlequin.

>>55061513
They are what got me to play dark eldar! The books are fantastic and give you a great view into the dealings of edge elves.

>>55061547
I'd like to answer the death/black metal one, but I still don't know exactly the differences. And it isn't for a lack of research. The problem is that these two have so many crossing concepts and bands that blend into either with every second song, I just gave up a long time ago.

>most industrial
Easy, Adeptus Mechanicus or Iron Warriors.

What is the most terrifying thing you can fit into a Mastodon transport? Faction doesn't matter, I'm just looking for the biggest bundle of fuck I can deliver to the enemy

>>55061636
You talking about kyber? Or whatever his name was? I felt like he just couldn't catch a damn break.

>>55061448
Not saying it's wise, but you can. They're good units. At 7 points each, that's pretty good.

>>55061603
Does race really matter for a breed of demigod's sons that come from genestock that have lived on a different planet for thousands of years?

>>55061659
This again?

Literally anything

40 transport capacity of literally anything

>>55061659
3 leviathans

>>55061508
idk how good of an access you have to mortal wounds but those are always nice
doesnt the lord of contagion have like an aura that deals them?
other than that.. plasma i guess, since they'll be low model count

>>55061666
No, but if a white guy clones himself and suddenly gets a black baby, that raises a few questions.

>>55061645
Pretty sure Death is about violence and murder, while Black goes full on hail satan route.

>admech more industrial
I thought like you and then heard the DOOM soundtrack and now can't decide between that and Death for world eaters.

>>55061600
>>55061599
>JUST DO IT FOR GRANDPA NURGLE MORTY *buuuuuurp* IF YOU GET THERE AND GRAB SOME CULTISTS WE CAN *uuuurp* TEST OUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW POXES AND WE'LL MAKE SO MUCH STAGNATION HAPPEN IT'LL *braaaap* BE AWESOME MORTY
>Grandpa Nurgle, are you sure this is a good idea? I-I mean those Primaris guys sure seemed pretty... menacing
>BAH DON'T THINK TOO HARD ABOUT IT MORTY *buuurp* LET'S JUST GO THERE I'M SURE GIRLYMAN WON'T *uurp* BE AROUND C'MON

>>55061206
So just going on pure theorycrafting here, this likely wouldn't be very cost effective, but it's a fun experiment:
Add in black legion warlord trait (DTTFE triggers on 5+, so 4+ with prescience), Diabolic strength power on one model gives +2S +1A, and Fabius Bile can potentially increase attacks by 1 as well.
So that's 3 attacks, giving a potential of 9 sixes, which would trigger an additional 9D3 hits for 9+9D3 (potentially 36 hits total with perfect rolls? if I'm thinking properly here). And those would be at S8 if we were using diabolic strength. Then pretty much every hit will wound at that str, as the plague weapon rule also rerolls 1s. AP-2 is pretty nice. Then each wound deals 2 damage that also spills over due to the special rule, giving a potential 72 wounds, if there's even a unit in the game that can fit that many wounds in it. But even at half of that we're still pretty much wiping any squad.
Oh and this plague marine with a flail costs 29 pts, and you can have two flails per squad (though diabolic strength only targets one model, and getting Bile and a buff sorc only for this and then hoping for the right rolls makes it not all that effective in reality, it just has huge potential).

>>55061645
Death Metal = Screams (often high pitched)
Black Metal = Growls

It's an ages old cliche, and it used to be like that back in the 90s, but yeah it's all muddy nowadays.

>>55061743
You got it backwards. Death Metal uses the growls, and Black Metal is the autistic screeching.

>>55061698
Kinda like what happened with my son... oh wait

>>55061627
It's good to see the bad guy from demolition man became an astartes

>>55061776
cuck

Reminder that "Orks are great in 8th!" is a meme.

They have one good build (Boyz spam) and one passable one (Deffmob), and the rest is the same old unreliable feast-or-famine garbage.

In fact, it's not even feast-or-famine. It's survival-rations-or-famine. When the stars align and everything works, they're on a par with an average list of any other army.

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Hmm so this new art is from some Russian poster at VK, their facebook.

Not sure if its from their codex though.

If anyone can read Russian, tell us what they're saying. Codex stuff?

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So... what do I do with all these extra fees blocks?

>>55061822
terrain, as usual

>>55061799
>the absolutely most fluffy and common ork army type in the galaxy is the best
>but muh special snowflake kopta spam list

Fuck off mate, futures so green I gotta wear shades

>>55061822
Make tank traps

>>55061822
make terrain out of it. Possibly barricades or bunkers.

Does anyone else have problems with the space marines epub from the op? I've tried three different epub readers and every time it either stalls out or gives an unknown error.

>>55061822
Tank traps, Dragon Teeth, Concrete barricades. that what i do.

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>>55061536
Suck our collective blue cock, Gue'la.

>>55061822
Glue to penis

>>55061865
+1

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>>55061864
No habla NPC

what is the modern day equivalent to devlan mud? agrax earthshade?

>>55061865
Yeah this one makes the most sense, thanks man

>>55061865
this desu
>>55061888
trips dont lie, khorne wants it

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This is what Russians play.

Pretty large sample etc.

Seems about right for most communities.

Things I don't know:
1) What the fuck I'm doing.

<Tyranids> Battalion, 996/1000 points.

>HQ
Tyranid prime with deathspitter and boneswords (112)

Broooooodlord (162)

>Troops
3 warriors with scything talons, 2 deathspitters, 1 venom cannon (85)

21 devilgaunts (168) (built this way, so can't be switched to fleshborers)

15 genestelers (150)

>Elites
3 hive guard with impaler cannons (144)

>Heavy support
Trygon with pincer tail (175)

How bad is it folks? Also apologies if any points are wrong, (looking at you genestelers,) may have lost track over which FAQ document was most recent.

>>55061895
Yes

>>55061661
The rebel hormunculus, name began with a B I think. It was just getting stupid the number of situations he'd escaped in some absurd fashion by the end of the trilogy.

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Okay last question...
how much of this should I be breathing?

>>55061914
expected much more chaos

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>>55061237
By the Emperor! For Titan!

>>55061761
>reversed
Fucking hell, I don't know anymore.

>>55061943

How badly do you want cysts in your lungs?

>>55061943
snort it and feel the cancer

>>55061943
Aim for none. Cancer dust is not good for you.

Unless you're a Nurglite, then go nuts, I suppose.

>>55060247
Guess I'll have to get in as many games with my juggerlord as I can now, or just run him as a biker or some shit.

>>55061508
>everyone is +2 Sv
PAGK spam is good too. Stormbolters can rip you to pieces.

>>55062010
Have hope anon, he'll probably be an option in the eventual World Eater codex.

>>55061547
>>Most Death Metal faction in 40k?
Khorne Chaos Marines
>>Most Black Metal faction in 40k?
Space Wolves and Drukhari
>>Most Power Metal faction in 40k?
Nucrons, Black Templars, sometimes Imperial Guard
>>Most Industrial Metal faction in 40k?
Ad Mech, maybe Oldcrons
>>Most Noise Metal faction in 40k?
Noise Marines. Clearly. Also, Orks.
>>Most Symphonic Metal faction in 40k?
Eldar and Space Marines,

I was listening to Symphony X's Iconoclast album the day I bought my first models. I like that my musical tastes and hobby are so easily matched together.

>>55061946
>>55061237

So the Imperium wins 3 planets against Chaos without you, and the moment you guys show up, they lose that world. Full supplies, reinforcements, all the things they could want and they still lose. The only difference was that you guys were there.

What are you doing?

>>55061939
Bellathonis and his wrack. They're fucking great.

They're a super edgy version of Rick and Morty.

>>55062045
Simphony X ain't metal.

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>>55062046
>Killing all those currupted Guardsmen and Ultramarines
KEK
We wouldn't want that nasty chaos to spread now, would we?

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meme

>>55062040
Or possibly the daemons codex. I'll hold onto hope.

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>>55061505

Well, ultramar has a fucking primarch now. so the tau would still be completely fucked if they tried to invade

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>>55060757
>We're
FUCKING FISH GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY IMPERIAL STC WEAVING FORUM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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In the urges to make a jetbike army with some wyches tossed in, how's this look?

I want to go fucking fast and do drugs.

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BLOOD
SKULLS
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>55061505
Three times fuck all is still fuck all m8.

>>55062163
>3 blasters per squad
you cant do that anon. you need 9 reavers

giving my orks blue shirts and red pants will give them invulnerable saves and higher movement right?

>>55062236
That's 10 models per squad. 1 Champion, 6 dudes, and 3 Special Weapons.

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>>55062150

>>55062163
ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND

>>55062254
ah
my bad

>>55062079
Fuck you, it so is.

>>55062142
You know, as much as I hate them, Tau vs. Ultramarines would be about the only situation I back the fish, just because I want that overhyped plot-armoured bastard dead. Hell, I'd lend a hand with my Reductor fleet.

I know it would never happen, but I kind of want GW to write a campaign book where a Primarch dies fairly casually halfway though. You know, steps in the wrong district and gets a face full of Warlord Titan plasma, or gets decapitated by a Railgun or Melta shot, or the enemy just launches cyclonics at the nearest point to him and balls to the losses. Not in some grand confrontation with their long-lost and equally snowflake brother or some nonsense, just kill the bastard and go back to the war.

>>55062272
I never really thought that was in question, just that the Tau Empire isn't quite the whole crystal spires utopia with perfect superior everything that their fans make them out to be.

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>>55060462

Reminded me a bit of the old Flash Git model.

>>55060530
Nice csm army. Did you summon those daemons or include them in your list?

>>55062306
It isn't lol. Just weird folk stuff with guitars.

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>>55062108
nicememe dot website

>>55062366
Summon, we were playing power spoints

They instantly died without killing anyone though, at least they were half decent bullet catchers.

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>>55060530
Are those missile launcher modeled like sharks?

>>55062483
Those are heresy era missle launchers

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>>55062483
Kinda. They're official. The modern version of the original Rogue Trader era marine ML.

>>55061153
>People with disabilities kicking ass in space
Oh 40K has plenty of that. What type of disabilities does it mean though? Physical disabilities? Iron hands. Mental disabilities? Iron warriors.

>>55061704
>>55061743
>>55061761
More to it than that.
Black metal is way fuzzier/lo-fi and has more atmospheric and melodic elements. Lotta Odinist/Occult themes.

Death Metal is a bit more ambiguous and can be anything from Slower Thrash to the early rock and rolly stuff that sounds like Motorhead. These days it pretty much covers most things tuned "br00tully."

>>55061547

>Death: Iron Warriors
>Black: Wolves or 1K Sons
>Thrash: Zerkers
>Power Metal: Eldar or Tau
>Sludge/Grind: Death Guard
>Industrial: Crons or Nids
>80's Crossover: Orks
>Nu Metal: Drew Carey
>Hair Metal: BA/ other Marines
>Doom Metal: Guard
>Rap Metal: Salamanders
>Christian Metal: GK
>Metalcore: Dark Angels

>>55061943
wear a dust mask anon

just a little of that shit will fuck you up

>>55060338
Eh, that's what the combi is for. I can still use them, but if they're going after the chosen, there are more dangerous units not getting hit.

>>55060439
I'd love to stick them in a claw, actually, but claws are overpriced turds atm

>>55062395
They probably have a few songs like that, but the Iconoclast album doesn't have any. I'd give it a listen, given that its lyrics are clearly Warhammer 40K inspired over symphonic power metal. Listen to the title track, and if it isn't heavy enough for you, that's cool, but it is clearly a metal album, even if the band itself plays beyond the genre.

>>55062079
What?

>>55062395
Double what? Have you even listened to Symphony X? You sure you're not thinking of Blind Guardian?

>>55062571
I doubt it was 40k inspired, but I will say the title track is definitely one of my favorites. They're Progressive Metal, not symphonic.

>>55062307
>I want them to kill off Batman and make the whole movie about some of Jokers goons

I'm tired of this "plot-armour" meme. It's just a new way to repost for the same old edgy bullshit about wanting to see the main character die.

It's not even plot armour in this case. Guilliman's a fucking Primarch. Primarchs have always been written to be unstoppable war gods. It would be retardedly bad if any of the shit you listed killed him.

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>>55062639

>>55062671
best girl

>>55062617
I keep seeing them called progressive, but I only really see it on the last two tracks. Are they being thrown into prog for the time signatures? Their instrumentation is pretty standard. But yeah, symphonic is a bit of a stretch. Also, I have only listened to the Iconoclast album, so give me recommendations. I do love me some good prog along the lines of Between the Buried and Me, Ayreon, anything with a good mix of heavy and mellow.

>>55062617
>>55062722
Also, the chorus talks about chaos ripping open the sky, and an army fighting a superior foe with infernal machines. I'm pretty sure the section that goes "forging a cult of hate with legions unsurpassed, shouting the word with vicious tongues of fire, born of illsion and deceit, the soul of lie" is about as poetic as it gets about Lorgar.

>>55062671
I know it would never happen, but I kind of want GW to write a campaign book where The Night Haunter gets arrested fairly casually halfway though. You know, sneaks into the wrong apartment and gets a face full of baseball bat, or gets caught on video breaking and entering, or the enemy just calls the police and gives his description. Not in some grand confrontation with their long-lost and equally snowflake Inquisition agents or some nonsense, just indict the bastard and have him go to prison for 4 years.

>>55062722
>only listened to Iconoclast
Wew that was arguably one of their lower points, which is impressive. Listen to Divine Wings of Tragedy, which is my favorite album of theirs, though both V and Paradise Lost are excellent. The title track for Wings is a good 21min long and worth every second.

>>55062761
Yea, maybe it is. You could be right.

>>55062536
Most Black Metal is obviously Word Bearers, there's just no contest there.

Are Thousand Sons due a codex at some point? Just noticed a lot of their stuff missing CSM codex/

>>55062783
>primarchs can be taken out with a baseball bat
>and held by a standard police force
Seems legit.

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Can anyone get me a better quality version of pic below for the Emperor?

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>>55062783
>sending king of the criiminal marines to prison

he's just going to walk around but-ass naked killing folk

>>55062527
>People with disabilities kicking ass in space
Dreadnoughts, Psykers, Ogryn, anyone with bionics.

>>55062816

I'm an idiot, it literally says "The rules and abilities for the Death Guard and Thousand Sons Legions are detailed in their own codexes"

>>55060626
>no suits in sight
>only basic gundrones
>Firewarriors in close combat
Somebody fucked up bad

>>55062812
Will do. Thanks, cool anon.

>>55062850
Most human models without helmets seem to have a prosthetic eye, but that might just be because they don't wear helmets.

>>55062850
Ogryns aren't disabled, they're just dumb.

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>>55060626

>>55062895
The suits are about to Deepstrike.

I think I stumbled into something

Music of the Apocalypse does not have the restriction "as if it were the shooting phase"
This means that it can be used to snipe characters.

>Noise marine charge an enemy unit and fight
>Enemy fights back, kills 1
>Take it on the champion
>Champion fires a combi-melta into an hidden character
>If he hits with a 5+ (icon) he gets an extra melta shot from DTTFE
>???
>Profit!

>>55062926
g-GANBARE T'AU_SANS! f-FIGHTO!

>>55062849
It would work better with a normal guy. Not a fucking demi-god.
It could actually be a cool background and premise for a book, a guy who goes to prison for his wrongdoing and ends up in a penal squad/whatever the fuck.

Which begs the question: is there a 40k rpg to make this kind of OC?

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Tactical question

which choice would be better:

>master of ordnance beside my two basilisks for the once per game arty bombardment and reroll 1's

>Priest, giving +1 attacks to my 36 kriegers (which would work in tandem to the regimental standard giving 3 attacks for each guardsmen)

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Someone use this new leaked art for the new thread when the time comes.

It looks sweet.

>>55062956
>Penal Squad

Only War

>Pressganged into Inquisitorial scummery

Dark Heresy

So yes.

>>55062956
dark hearsay or internal war

>>55062967
So what got Mortarion off his ass anyway?

>>55062967
When did Typhus and Mortarion get back together?

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>>55062967
I'm gonna use a lelith hesperax by luth picture and there's nothing you can do to prevent it.

>>55063007
Seriously people who draw cutes should really be the ones drawing lewds, most of the people who draw lewds are shit in comparison.

>>55063005
When Nurgle said that family feuds within the Nurgle children are not acceptable when you join him and send them to Ultramar to sort their shit up.

>>55061627
>That wh*te salamander

>>55062639
What, being shot by a Battle Titan shouldn't kill him? Or Exterminatus? The whole "they're demigods, they're meant to remove all drama from any scene they're in" thing doesn't justify the fact that wherever they show up it instantly becomes all about them. There isn't really meant to be a "Main Character" in a setting this huge, and I thought that gibbing one of the Numbered Mistakes might just make the rest of them less insufferable and make their enemies seem halfway compentent. Doesn't have to be Little Boy Blue, you could blow up Dorn or Corax or someone more irrelevant.

>>55062970
>>55062987
Grazie, will check those out for rules. I've got this and don't mind to use it http://www.ebay.com/itm/28mm-wargame-and-collectible-miniature-Inquisitor-Gregor-by-W-Artel-/192219220163?epid=3004937178&hash=item2cc12888c3:g:AEIAAOSwdGFY1SbW

>>55060698
Is it me or does Morty look like Scarecrow from the Arkham Knight Batman game?