Gremlin-General

Fug I swapped the name and subject fields.
Still shows up in the search though.

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>>55008529

Much obliged. "Gremlin-General" is funny, so it's ok.

>>55042196
>The same thing we always do
Heh.

First for get riggidy rekt Lilith.

>>55042663

I just hope this doesn't feed too much into the Wyrd Forums' recent obsession with Nekima.

>>55042743
Oh it will.

>>55042663
I actually like that more Masters are geting "bad ends" ala Lilith and VonSchill. It's nice that not every master is sunshine and roses.

I'd like to see it happen to more MarySue masters though, like Misaki and Marcus.

>>55042743
>recent
I'm pretty sure that people have obsessed about Nekima since she came out.

Leaker Anon here. Heading out for a while, will be back this evening. Leave any requests you have and I'll do my best to fulfill them.

So, was Levi and Alyce's relationship more explicitly romantic in 1e?

>>55043193
Not really. She was more of a sidekick who he happened to find attractive.

>>55043193
Just a bit more pedophilic. He never actually did anything to her, but he had many thoughts.
On that note, Candy used to drive people insane by convincing them they molested her and amplifying their terror/self hatred.

>>55043111
If you could post Rotten and the Zombie centaurs rules that would be cool, or just let us know if they've changed since the last beta.

>>55043193
Iirc it was just innuendo, with the implication that he and rusty never did anything, despite Rustby being tsundere (did I spell that right?) for him.

I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that Rusty said Levi does the nasty with the hollow waifs. Although that may just be her talking shit about the "dirty old man".

>>55043286

Levi's just a big ball of fun. Hell of a guy to be almost the face character of the game at times.

>>55043315
>or just let us know if they've changed since the last beta.
Link the beta and I'll check when I get back in.

>>55043111
Little Gasser art!

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>>55043331

>>55043325
Definitely, but I liked him more in 1e when he was closer to steampunk necromancer. Also, his inner monologues and curmudgeonly ways were wonderful. Now he's a bit too aloof and smug.

>>55043340
I'm honestly jellous that they aren't dual faction.

They've got great rules, and are a goofy concept. They belong in Gremlins.

>>55043363
Beat me too it, thanks.

>>55043403
Yea, I was surprised. Even though I wanna hate on Gremlin players, I can feel the pain on this one. Very cheap model with insane amounts of utility. Just hope it looks decent or I'll have to convert.

Art for Ferdinand Vogel and The Beast Within please, bookanon?

>>55043622
I don't even know what the model looks like, and I'm already planning conversions.

Mostly I want to paint them in disguise as balloons.

>>55042520
>who the fuick needs a searchable thread title
And just like that you've doomed this thread to obscurity just like Gremlins

>>55043657
Check the website.

>>55043111
Is there any fluff behind Pandora's new ability to hire Reporters?

>>55044098

From last thread, it sounds like Pandora is mysteriously MIA and Zoraida intends to find out why. So odds are reporters aren't brought up and justified.

>>55043941
Came up in the search just fine for me.

>>55043669
Didn't have much hope for them looking in theme. Will probably have to do the same

>>55044355
The concept is goofy, so i expect the models to be too.

McMournign is already a wacky master, so I don't think it'd be to far outside of his theme.

They're going to look out of place in Nico and Seamus lists though.

Someone commented he hopes Nico loses the event with lady J and is killed off so more faction space would open up, as if Wyrd would remove Nico as a playable model.

>>55044682
>Kill of Nico
I assume he'd just come back full lich mode.
His avatar was dead iirc.

>>55044752

Yeah, he's a skeleton in his Avatar model.

>>55044195
Maybe reporters find her and are bent to the whims of the box, and due to the despair reporters bring the box decided to use them insteaf of ripping them apart

>>55044682
>>55044752
He'd just return more pimp than ever.

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I've just got the Hoffman box, bringing my total Guild holdings up to Lucies & Co, Riflemen and Hoffman's robuts.

Are there any good interactions with Lucius available in that set?

The Hunters look pretty good. Other people interfering with my activation order gets right up my nose, so +flips against un-activated models sounds pretty great to do the same.
Not so sure about the Guardian, but I guess they'll all shine with Power Loop...

Also, Mechanical Attendant 2 cute.

>>55043111
How about Medical Automatons illustration?

>>55044994
The Watcher is a really handy model, and probably works better with Lucius and Nellie than it does with Hoffman. For Hoffman himself you will of course want some decent Arcanist constructs. Namely Joss, Howard, and Metal Gamin.

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>>55045139

>>55045157
It's a qt-3.14

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>>55045143
Oh, I already play Mei in Arcanists, so I've got Joss, Howard and Metal Gamin.

Having played against Hoffman before, I'm not sure I can be bothered to put the work into gitting gud until I'm better with Lucius though.

>>55044752
I wonder what will happen to Lady J if she loses. With all of these fluffy upgrades that we have been getting, I imagine that either master could get something tangible.

>>55045614
She had a headless nightmare model too.
I honestly think that whoever loses should get an upgrade that gives them undead, and some spiffy new ability.

Honestly I have low expectations despite how Wyrd's trying to hype this. I'll be surprised if either Lady J or Nico suffers anything particularly significant from losing, much less die (no matter how temporarily).

>>55045157
that is quite adorable, thanks anon

>>55045877
I'm hoping for a VonSchill style maiming at least, for whoever loses.
>They both lose
>Lady J dies, and comes back as s headless revenant becoming a Resser Master
>Nico loses and is imprisoned. After some "enhanced interrogation" he's back on the streets as the Guild's newest sanctioned Necromancer.

>>55043340
I'm back, bitches!
> your image contains an embedded file
What fresh hell is this?

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Let's try this again

Could we get a pic of McMourning's new art?

>>55047265
Huh. That's actually significantly more gritty than I was expecting.

More like a left for dead boomer, than a the gremlin balloon I was imagining.

>>55043363
>>55043315
Asura Roten is the same, with the exception of no longer giving -Crow, instead stating that they cannot declare triggers.

Kentauroi are unchanged.

Is there any interesting fluff to the Kentauroi, or are they just "<Resser> had the bright idea to make centaurs"?

>>55047265
>>55047366
Thanks again by the way.
The spoilers are much appreciated.

>>55047397
No problem. I'm glad to hear people appreciate it, though.
>>55047367
Not really. They were originally made by McMourning, but everyone else went "Doctor, you've had an actually sensible idea!" and took it from him.

>>55047230
Can you share a pic of the lampad?

>>55047628

http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/128688-june-26th-lampad/

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>>55047628
You know, I remember saying at the start of all this how much of a pain in the dick it was to phonepost/get pics. You're all very lucky I'm easily swayed by the needs of strangers in the internet, but my phone needs charging anyway, so this will be the last pic until then.

Randomly: As spoiler anon graciously summarized for us last thread, Nicodem and lady J both show up in Broken Promises' Resser story. Can we tell when their final showdown event is set?

>>55047265
That's not bad at all.
Gratitude, spoiler-anon.

Any Collodi fluff in the new book?
It's my favorite neverborn master and it needs more love.

>>55047731
Those guys are way cooler than I assumed they'd be.
I know you posted the stat card, but is there full art for the Hinamatsu?

>>55039183
Man, those buggers are ugly. Glad I ordered rising sun.

>>55048125
True. He needs to be fleshed out more.
As is he comes off as a bit wooden.

>>55048274
get out

>>55048286
Tough character to write for, as he's rather stiff

>>55048125
None, sadly. Everything focuses on the Lilith+Zoraida vs. Nekima+Titania fight.

>>55048274
>>55048347
Jokes aside, I like his lack of fluff. It makes the character more mysterious. A few tantalizing glimpses every now and then.

Just enough to string you along.

People on the Arcanist forum are saying the Steamfitters were changed to be able to target leaders, can we get a pick of their updated card?

>>55048565
They can. They also changed the wording, but not the effect, on Discarded Tool.

I do think it's a bit of a shame that Titania was introduced as a playable character. It constrains her character in ways that someone like the Governor-General wasn't.

>>55048741
While he seems to have no arcane or physical power of his own, he did comment to Lady Justice when she was being pissy about the spaniards that he gave up "a lot of power" to come to malifaux and fix this mess.

>>55048771

That's interesting. I would've assumed someone so high up on the Guild food chain was a mage.

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>>55048741
I can see where you're coming from.
I'm still happy we got her though, she's fun to play and the model looks nice.

>>55048824
I'm not saying he isn't, but he's yet to demonstrate any powers other than having the biggest pair of balls this side of the Breach.

>>55048844

Oh, yeah, don't get me wrong. She seems like a cool Master and I'm glad people are having fun with her.

>>55047265
They actually showed off the art for that when they announced that they were taking on a new artist. As others pointed out it is less cartoony than what you would expect out of a Gremlin model.

>>55048824
He was mentioned to be a competent mage before. And the Guild originally was just a bunch of wizards who wanted to control the soulstones and hoard magical power and general material possessions for themselves, so it isn't too far off for the Guild to have some asskicking wizards at the top of their hierarchy.

>>55048482
The bit about "The music" and him searching for the purpose behind his creation is pretty interesting. I do agree that rather than thoroughly explaining every supernatural happening, having some mysterious weird fiction esque elements like the Crossroads Seven is nice.

>>55048956
Speaking of the Crossroads seven is it still easy to port in Malifaux statted models for TTB 2ed? I haven't looked at it yet

>>55049378
Very easy, as you have everything you need save some out of combat stats.

ugh, they're obsessing over Nekima again

>>55042520
Any good battle reports on youtube?

>>55051052
Kek do you just post here to bitch about the wyrd forums?

>>55051950

Only about a third of the time.

>>55051702
Sadly, not really. Everything I've seen is some combination of shaky cam, mistakes, and obnoxious fucks.

I just realized the zapp thing from nurse heartsbane potentially triggers pounce twice if the opponent wont discard. Sounds brutal with VS, Lillith, Rougarou but what else is there?

>>55042520
What's your sweetest conversion (idea)?

>>55053561
My friends put a brass arachnids legs onto hamelins magic blast then had it hang over mouse to be a bandersnatch. He called it a great way to dump useless parts. I want to put misakis head on classic misakis body, but I dont know what to do with the rest of misaki.

>>55053743
Wait I figured it out, ill put her onto a jorugumo and make a female one.

>>55053349
Belles, doxys, First Mate.
But can they actually use pounce/target practice in the middle of Heartsbane resolving her trigger?

>>55053766
Why wouldnt they? Pounce goes off when the movement occurs, not after triggers resolve etc.

Do you ever infiltrate lost models with hamelin? If so who? I can imagine kade has minor synergy with lure but candy seems like the annoying one by giving you an aggressive kind of aggro control.

>>55053349
Clockwork traps!

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>>55051702
>>55052904
Guerrilla Miniature Games and Rough Riders Wargaming are decent.
There are mistakes, but not that many, and the production quality is high.
Good if you want something to vegetate in front of, or familiarise yourself with the flow of the game, but not for learning high-level strats.

A thread or two ago there was mention of a killer, irlf predictable, mei feng list using Thunder Archers. Does anyone have the full list for that?

Mei Feng + 7 Pool

- Vapormancy (1)

- Seismic Claws (1)

- Misdirection (2)

Toshiro The Daimyo (9)

- Command The Graves (1)

Chiaki The Niece (6)

Katanaka Sniper (7)

Mechanized Porkchop (7)

Obsidian Oni (6)

Obsidian Oni (6)

I would've made slight adjustments but minus one Oni and Chiaki that's what any generic Mei Feng core looks like.

>>55054447
The archer list was more of a meme list by the same guy. I think it was two Archers, Yamaziko Fuhatsu and the rest we dont know.

>>55054447
Thunder archers dont have obvious syergy with feng I can think of. They like focus and maybe stuff like izamu, LRM, yin and other no escape type models.
>>55054493
Seems spooky to me. Obsidian oni and mech pork are tough fucks. No kang though? No sparks either? I guess sparks doesnt help a toshiro strat as much.

>>55054501
Yama makes sense but why fuhatsu? I would think yama + izamu to pin enemies and thunder to pepper em plus maybe shenlong for free focus or yan to heal yama and izamu. Rest of team run schemes.

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>>55054447
>>55054501
It's on the Scheme & Stones Mei Feng 10T episode.

And as a result, the episode is supremely unhelpful, because the guest just masturbates over how good his memelist is, rather than meaningfully discuss how best to do different schemes and strats with Mei.
From what I remember, the bit where Khyodeeontheforums runs through the list of scenarios and asks him how he does them, he just says "lol I don't scheme I shoot things lol" to literally everything.

From memory, it was something like this:

Mei Feng -- 3ss
+Vapormancy - 1ss
+Seismic Claws - 1ss

Fuhatsu - 10ss
+Recalled Training - 1ss

Toshiro The Daimyo - 9ss
+Command The Graves - 1ss

Yamaziko - 7ss
+Blot The Sky - 1ss

Thunder Archer - 7ss
Thunder Archer - 7ss
Terracotta Warrior - 5ss

>>55054543
Kang is just nice as Kang but has no particular synergy with Mei beyond the ignoring armor. And Sparks just isn't that interesting imo. I would've still tried to jam a Shadow Emissary on there for the free scrap and -2 Df in such a relatively burn heavy list, and maybe the Emberling for a cheap activation.

>>55054557
The idea was apparently to just shoot stuff the moment it came close, with Mei popping a bubble in case they came up against shooty bits so they'd be forced to move in. Does fuck all for scheming though.

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>>55054543
>>55054557
This list >>55054570 sits just behind the centre line.

Mei Vents Steam three times per turn, rendering all Ca and Sh attacks irrelevant.
Fuhatsu slaughters anything that comes within range.
Archers shoot anything that doesn't.
Toshiro gives +flips to the Archers.
Yamaziko is there solely to Brace Yari to block charging, and caddy Blot The Sky.

I put in the Terracotta in case the upgrade switching looked useful, but you could easily drop it to expand the cache and upgrades.

The game plan, regardless of the scenario, is to double walk Turn 1 and then do literally nothing besides Vent Steam, Brace Yari and shoot.

>>55054570
Tosh has no easy way to generate focus for the thunder archers in this list with no corpse/scheme makers why is he even in this

>>55054597
Tosh gives + to melee how will he help archers?

Anyone had luck with hayreddin?

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>>55054676
>>55054685
>Tosh gives + to melee
I must be misremembering.
I guess he can still summon off kills, but another Archer or a Kat Sniper and upgrades is probably a better spend.

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Since we are talking about her already, how do I play 'optimal' Mei?

Is it something like >>55054493?
To me it looks like there's not that much serious damage output or speed for scheme running - there's a lot of shit that Mei can play with, lots of scrap marker synergy, but not a huge amount of actual VP-scoring.

>>55055179
The free scrap from the Porkchop (and any scrap or corpses really) turn into Komainu, quickly boosting your activations to 9-10ish t2. If I were to make that list keeping that theme...

Mei Feng + 6 Pool
- Vapormancy (1)
- Seismic Claws (1)
- Misdirection (2)
Toshiro The Daimyo (9)
- Command The Graves (1)
-Monk Upgrade (0)
Shadow Emissary (10)
-Mei Conflux (0)
Mechanized Porkchop (7)
Obsidian Oni (6)
Obsidian Oni (6)
Low River Monk (0)

I'd miss the Sniper (though you can always turn an Oni into one), Chiaki is very replacable if you want to heal moreso than remove conditions. The Porkchop and Emissary drop the scrap, allowing Mei about 14" up the field for 1 AP, then you pump the Vent Steam as the rest of your crew advances. Emissary pushed Toshiro can pop up two Komainu, who the LRM can then pump up for 2ish health each, and at that point you're at 9 activations turn 1.

And at that point the Emissary can drop the free scrap thing for the Burning debuff, with the Vapormancy blast attack setting up units with both less Df and a + to the Oni's Wrath attacks. If you're not swapping an Oni for a Sniper it'll be weak at range, though Mei's aura makes it hard for range to get in too. And with that Toshiro will keep trying to plop down Komainu whenever the Oni or Chop drop scrap, the Komainu will benefit a lot from those +'s and are a great point of Misdirection for Mei. It'll essentially boil down to a giant melee with everything engaged with everything. Without Chiaki you might lose a decent scheme runner but sending a Komainu or two off to do their thing can be fine too.

The biggest thing is that the Chop and Toshi keep handing out ++'s for the Komainu and Oni, which spares your hand a lot while constantly chipping away at your opponent.

Hey people, total noob here who wants to get into Malifaux.
Now while reading the rules for the first time, everything seemed rather simple, except for the suit mechanics.
If an ability has a number and a suit behind it, what does the suit mean? Do only cards of that suit count?
Same confusion for triggers: They activate if I draw cards of a certain suit, but what does it mean for the rest of the ability?
For example Collodis Extra Thread or Sonnia's Runed Blade, what do the suit symbols mean, exactly? What is meant with "for each [Ram]"? Each card or each symbol on the cards? Hope you can help!

>>55055846
When Sonnia's Runed Blade says Ml5(r), it means the stats you start out with are a 5 and you have one Ram. If you flip up an 8(r), you will now have a total of 13 and two Rams. For triggers this might mean that you get the benefit for each ram in the duel total, so for Runed Blade this gives her 2 healing and cards as she has 2 Rams in the final duel total.

>>55055846
If youve ever played mtg think of suits abit like colored mana but no lands exist. An ability with a suit next to its base stat akways gets that suit. The card you usr gives it another suit and possibly abilities from other models can give more. Some models have TNs which are target numbers if those have a suit you need that suit to use the action. Some actions have triggers which are optional powerups based on a suit. Critical strike gives +1 damage for each ram so if the action has a ram on the card then you flip a ram you get 2 rams so if you choose to critical strike you get 2 extra damahe.

>>55055846
A suit in the TN of an action means you need that suit or the action will fail. So using Extra Thead as an example you have a Ca of 7 Mask and you need to meet a TN of 16 Mask Mask. So that means to succeed on the action your final duel total needs to at least meet 16 and you need 2 Masks. Since you already have 1 mask from your action value, you need to get the 2nd one from either the card or from stoning.

Suits for triggers are what you need to declare the trigger. Some triggers, like Critical Strike, gain a benefit from having multiple of that suit in the final duel total. So if you have 1 ram in your final duel total you can declare Critical Strike and you will deal +1 damage, because you have 1 ram. If you have 2 rams you can declare Crit Strike just the same, but you'll be dealing +2 damage for the 2 rams. If a trigger has 2 suits next to the name, then you need both of those suits in your final duel total to declare the trigger.
Also, suits from cards are only counted for the card you use. If you have positive flips or something, you don't get the suit from each card you flip, just the card you choose to take.

>>55053561
I'd love to do a Ramos crew with a Venture Bros. theme. Ramos as Dr. V, Joss as Brock. Howard is Venturestein, and I think an acolyte could make a decent Batman-Hank. Steam Arachnids are obviously walking eyes.

Not sure what to do for Dean...

>>55053561
Dr Dufrense as an adult McStuffins with a bunch of stuffed beasts

>>55056980
That sounds adorable, but how do you know about McStuffins? Have children or babysit other's?

>>55057019
Have a kid

>>55056833
Rail worker? Some of them seem skinny enough, and you could probably greenstuff a princess Leia costume in on.

>>55057092
Good idea actually. Tanks

So apparently Nihilist doesn't get to ignore strat/scheme conditions in GG18?

>>55057464
It doesn't get to ignore strat conditions. There are no condition schemes.

>>55054090
sounds good, thanks my dude.

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>>55055360
>>55055179
>To me it looks like there's not that much serious damage output
So you're looking to the Obsidian Oni to do the damage once appropriately set up, and apart from that it's just consistent chipping away with a high volume of OK-damage attacks on +flips to hit?

>>55057499
>It doesn't get to ignore strat conditions.
Thanks god.

>There are no condition schemes.
Disappointing.
I never got the Accusation/Mark hate.

How much did the errata truly change Levi? Opinions really seem to vary wildly, from "he's still real good, he just has to exercise some actual thought in target selection" to "His offense was so balanced around Channeling that nerfing it without changing the rest has ruined him vs cover/etc"

A lot of people seem to have given up on a lot of his upgrades now since he can't kill as consistently.

What is the highest amount of different conditions a single model has had in all of your games?

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>>55058402
Most of the grumbling I've heard locally was the Cache change - unnecessary and more limiting than you would think, apparently.

>>55058427

But...he gets two free models.

>>55058402
Since so much of his card revolved around killing and he provides no real crew support, he's just really mediocre. Still decent against weak model spamming crews, but there are generally more relevant masters to take given any set of conditions. Though, Demise may alleviate this with the auto damage, still seems better tuned for countering spam.

>>55058362
You're looking at the Oni, Mei, the Shadow Emissary and about 3-4 Komainu to constantly chip away at increasingly decreasing defenses whilst racking up the burn damage. There's no huge hitters but with about 4 models of your crew at any time being at Ml/Ca 6 with a + or even ++ to attacks and most Komainu having a built in slow or burn when they're in Toshiro's + range you're very quickly making more and more "small" amounts of damage while usually leaving a model at +3 or so burning when one model is done with them. And all the flips ensure that your opponent just cant even defend against this at some point because there's a limit to hand size. Add to that Mei Venting Steam once or twice an activation and everything that wants to be of use will have to join the Melee, where Mei can keep bouncing from Komainu to Komainu.

>>55058427
Yea, that was kind of a kick in the groin given ratjoy and the activation spam was what created such performance disparity. In the tournaments preceding the errata.
>>55058481
Care to add some context to your statement? They have no ss cost, but to say they are 'free' is disingenuous.

>>55058575

They're integral to his gameplay and your lists need to be built with them in mind, but Levi starts with three activations for 0ss. Lowering his Cache by 1 is not a crippling nerf.

>>55058362
>>55058499
And don't forget that besides the scrap that drops everywhere once corpse markers also start to drop Toshiro can turn any 9+ of tomes or crows into new units, with the Ashigaru providing the rather valuable Brace Yari and (1) charge attack. You'll be using a lot of high cards on Toshi and Mei but you should be getting it out of them in +'s to their spawn. Mei is even expendable unless they're nothing but shootycasty, but it's quite important to at least give keep Toshiro around 'til he's had 3-4 activations. Though if you manage to keep the LRM just slightly away from the action you should be able to keep dragging him and the half-dozen armor1+HtK models back from the dead.

>>55058616
No one here said the cache reduction was a crippling nerf, I said it was the salt in the wound.
All lists must consider the included masters and the waif activations do not provide simple rat like advantage.

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>>55058616
I didn't say it was a crippling nerf, just that most of the grumbling I heard was on the tune of "OK, so Channelling needed changing, fine, but why the Cache too?"
That seemed more irritating, without a huge change to the actual gameplay - just a bit more strapped for points.

>>55058499
>>55058736
Cheers for the write-up.
Is Toshiro a big pick for other Masters?
I don't remember hearing or seeing much about him apart from with Mei, which seems odd given that the only specific synergy with Mei is that the Emissary and Porkchop drop a bit of scrap.

>>55059199
Toshiro is a solid choice for Yan Lo. I always use him with the wastrel trick to get an initial advantage.

>>55059199
He's good. I like him with Asami or McCabe if I'm going minion-heavy but I often find myself eliting it up by default at which point he's got very little to do, really. That aura of +'s to minion attacks is great though, and the card hungry Asami or that ++ with McCabe and Promises can make your crews feel very oppressive.

We're not in any immediate need of new models, but I'd like if the next batch for Ressers has some more that fit Molly's misfits theme.

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Newbie getting started here.
Split the starter box with a buddy.
Could anyone recommend a good master for angel eyes and company?

>>55059521
Lilith's box is a good pick for grabbing nephilum. I like other masters better for grow lists though.

Lucius and Zorida are good support masters that fit just about every list.

>>55059514
I feel like the little gassers fit her theme. Cute in a disgusting zombie way.

>>55059577

Speaking of, I'm impressed that all of the Wave 5 Resser models seem good. I personally don't give a damn about the Lampad but it looks like it has a niche.

>>55059632
Yeah. Most everyone got something good. Everything ressers got is good if not great.

I wish Gremlins got as much love.

Im starting to get into malifaux, and I bought a master box along with a few other miniatures that were recommended by an lgs cashier to meet the 50. Did I fuck up?

>>55059893
that's the most optimal way to start. Now get some games in

>>55059893
What did you get?

>>55059933
Barrows with Sue and Johan

>>55059963

They're great picks. Sue and Johan will serve you well in most any crew.

>>55059963
Surprisingly good suggestions. Did you pick up the general upgrade packs as well? Probably going to want at least the Oathkeeper upgrade.

>>55059963
You picked some good Outcasts staples. Maybe pony up and get Ashes & Dust later down the line.

>>55060079
>>55060106
>>55060173
Thanks! Is there anything else I should get?

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>>55060230
>>55060230
Spend a couple of weeks getting used to the game and the crew - I can guarantee you don't know how to get even 50% power out of Parker yet, so don't rush to add more variables to the mix.

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why the fuck does one of the performers not come with the cigarette holder advertised on the box and renders ?

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>>55060749
With her pose it probably wouldn't be too hard to give her one with a nib of plastic; but it might be due to size that they didn't. Then again, Wyrd is king of smallest bits known to man.

>>55060794
yeah i can see the reasons for it, just makes me feel cheated alittlle, and it looks awkward without it

Are there any good pictures out there comparing the size of all the child miniatures? (Stolen, crooligans, candy, Iggy, sister, etc) trying to figure out what to use for some kitbashes.

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>>55060749
>>55060794
>>55060833
It would be the width of a paperclip.
Thinner, maybe.
Just add it in yourself, you know full well there's no way they can consistently cast that.

Actually, have anybody used Performers as mercs in Parker's crew? Theoretically they have some awesome synergy (drop it + seduction, siren call + hail of bullets/crate of dynamite, maybe something else that I didn't consider)

>>55060923
They cast plenty of similarly small feature's, like Miss Fire's own cigarette. I think the main issue is that blind purchases aren't always going to be reliable.

>>55060833
Eh, I sort of see it as a beckoning pose rather than a cigarette pose since she doesn't have one.
>>55060923
The Marionette's fingers feel that slim

I've been out of the loop with Malifaux since Wave 3 dropped since I was swamped with work and couldn't play due to my schedule. Now that I've moved states and jobs I've got enough time to look back into the game.

Any cool Ressers stuff I've missed? I have all of the Resser masters sans Kirai and Molly.

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>>55061051
While it is amazing when it goes off, Seduction isn't anywhere near reliable enoughto be counted upon against anyone besides Zoraida's crew and maybe Gremlins.
Wp13 just isn't that hard to hit, and can usually be cheated with non-vital cards.

Having said that, with the number of markers Parker forces, it's a lot less AP-intensive to set up, so it probably would be good to try.

>>55061388
Do you have Reva?

>>55061402
I do yeah. I lucked out and picked her up during that first initial sale, though I've yet to take her to the table.

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>>55061282
>Mannequin fingers
Yeah, to be fair it's not a good argument.

>beckoning pose
Exactly - when it came to building them I'd not looked at the render in a few days, and I forgot entorely she was pictured holding a cigarette.

>>55061388
>Any cool Ressers stuff I've missed?
>since wave 3
lawl
Someone else is going to have to take this, I don't know beyond the obvious few.

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From the Wyrd Forum Gremlin subforum thread title "If you were writting te next erratta":

"Pigapult: reduce cost by 2 and If you hire it, reduce the cost of ammo models by 1. Remove reckless but change bacon load to giving one additional Sh action "

LF MASTER RECOMMENDATION:

Any decent ones which support their crews through drawing cards and aura buffs? Been playing Lady Justice, but want to go the other direction now. Faction doesn't matter.

>>55062378

Nicodem

>>55062280
Is this Poe's law in action?

Is the Crossroads seven considered decent as a crew ? Sounds fun to get a crew to shake up the bag while getting a load of mercenaries while at it.

>>55063182

Not REALLY, but they're flavorful and fun. Mostly it's Wrath who is pretty underpowered as a "Master". As individual Mercs several of them are considered quite good.

>>55063182
Just play Jack and take 6 of them, it'd probably be better.

>>55063182
It's not good, but it is fun to run as a By crew in a tournament. If you really want to run a lot of them, then just take as many as you can with Jack Daw as that other anon recommended. Otherwise individually they can be good. I use Lust with Misaki all the time.

>>55063217
>>55063276
>>55063328
That's a shame. Might still get 'em just to change up my crew once in a while.

Any of them that has some synergy with Titania ?

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>>55063365
you should definitely get them just to paint up, the models are really nice.
I've never took any with titania but I think envy would probably be a decent fit, what with all the scheme markers being flung around

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>>55063182
>>55063217
>>55063328
>It's not good
Once people know how to deal with it, it isn't great, but if you get them unexpectedly in Extraction or similar, you can have a .really. bad day.

I had the misfortune of picking a crew of predominantly 4 and 5 wound minions with defensive tech - that's starting/ending a single activation in two or three auras and you get a dead model.

I still scored six points, but I lost my last model halfway through Turn 5 (of 6).

>>55062280
Pigapult could probably use a price drop to be honest.

>>55064306
Given the stupid price increase on the ammunition, yeah, definitely.

>Gencon order is finally shipping
Can't wait to start making tiny cats, drop a part, get pissed off then give up

>>55066986
>tfw had a friend at gencon
>by the time he got to the booth the stuff I wanted to was sold out
He waited until the last day.

>>55061388
Pretty much all the wave 5 stuff is choice.
See:>>55043363

What mercs do you guys generally use with Nellie? I was thinking of making a more elite low activation crew with her by going with Bishop and Burt to somewhat make up for the AP gap, and of course Curfew to ruin the turn for any spam player I play against. That said guys like Johan and Burt aren't that pricy anyways, so maybe it won't be necessary.

My Viktoria and Leveticus boxes are here! I'm quite new to minis in general, so does anyone have tips on how to paint?

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>>55068309
>and of course Curfew
I've never heard of people actually using that - the various broadcast opinions seemed to be that it wouldn't be that much help (which I found surprising).
Do folks get good work out of it?

>>55067235
>He waited until the last day.
...Bruh.

>>55069425
First you spray some primer on, then work out what the main areas are like clothes, skin etc. Paint those bits in in two thin coats, as in use a tiiiny amount of water to thin the paint a bit then paint it on it wont look great but after it dries go over it again and it should look more solid. Now that you've done that get a darker version of each color and fill in any "deep" bits, then a lighter version and go over the most exposed bits.
So for example in an arm with muscles the bit inbetween the muscles is obviously where you put the dark and the highest part of the muscle is where the bright goes.

>>55069425
>>55070178
For an "abomination" from leviticus there are four main things you need. Flesh colors, clothes colors, some metallic paint and something for the gory bits. Whilst they have lots of spindly bits doing the base colors on each area of the abominations is probably a good way to get the hang of things. Using rakarth flesh then pallid wych flesh on the abomination's skin should work without needing a "darker" color.

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>>55069425
Hit YouTube.
Honestly there's no better archive of advice that the literal thousands of tutorials on just about every technique that exists, as well as the most basic aspects.

>>55070178
>>55070194
Alright, thanks for the advice. Roughly how many different paints do you guys use? Can I get away with washing to make different shades?

>>55070857
Aye, will do. Any particular videos you'd recommend?

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I don`t know if you remember me, but once I asked about your Ideas for some malifaux raptors fitting to colette... Here is the result. Like I said then I wanted one to fit more to my m&su crews(the one on the right). His base will see some sand in the future...

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here some more detailed pictures

>>55072498
Giving us a much better look at the noise and blur.

>>55072498
I really like this one.

>>55072480
these are cool.

With Hoffman do you prefer to focus on Power Loop or Machine Puppet, and why?

>>55071718
I think around thirty counting inks/washes. But you can get by on much less.

You can get by a bit with washing to make different shades, but the basic technique of base-> wash -> highlight will take you very far for not a whole lot of effort.

Be on the look out for Agrax earthsahde or Devlan Mud or whatever GW is calling it now. I'm sure can recommend a cheaper option from reaper or something, but a dark brown wash like these is magic in a bottle. It easily shades everything for you and makes you look 3X better at painting than you actually are. Its the best single tip I can give you

Any requests from the wave 5 book?

>>55074883

What happens in the Guild story? I've heard Nellie, McCabe, Lucius, and Hoffman all have scenes.

>>55074883
Titanias story if there is one.
Also the lore section on cyclops and Serena bowman

>>55075009
We already know Serena's lore. She's the trickster from different paths.

>>55075046
not everyone is as up to date with the lore as you.
I don't even know what Different Paths is.

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>>55075009

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>>55075009
Stories are pretty labor intensive since the pages are all text. Getting no glare and completely clear font requires some setup.

>>55075137
That's fair. Broad stroaks ?

>>55075137

You mentioned cell pics are annoying to get, so I was only expecting brief summaries anyway.

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>>55075163
>Broad stroaks ?
That a story? Don't see it in the index.

>>55074883
Outcast's models lore, please

>>55069425
Get yourself a sealable glass jar and a thing of purple power or simple green. As a new painter you're going to fuck up, and that's totally fine. Just remember that worst case you can always strip the paint and go at it again.

>>55075480
Any in particular?

>>55075688
Stalker, Benny and Engineer (they better have good fucking explanation why he is not a mercenary)

>>55075688

Not that guy but once you're done with him, anything interesting in the Bone Pile's lore?

>>55074883
How does smuggler and Paul Crockett looks like?

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>>55075747

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>>55075747
Think Benny was posted in the previous thread, but here it is.

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>>55075747
They do indeed

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>>55075750
You tell me

>>55074883
could we get a decent pic of Hinamatsu's fluff + artwork?

>>55076196
So, before we had Jack the Pervert, now we also have Jack the Postmodernist. Sweet.
>>55076295
There was only a pic of him in previous one.
>>55076320
This is one ugly model, for a "freikorps girl" concept. Still awesome rules though.

Thanks a lot anon.

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>>55075802
>>55076437
Fairly unique

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>>55076378

>>55076500
Thanks

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>>55072480
Fucking awesome dude!

>>55072498
I'm so glad you went with the bursting-out-of-a-mirror pose, it looks really great.
As far as work in for satisfaction out, I think you made the right call in not embedding the Raptor in the mirror itself - looks just as good this way, and far less chopping up models.
Tentacle is very well done too.

>>55072513
I like the peaking, but it covers a lot more of the body than I would've opted for.
Having said that, if you went full aesthetics and perched it on top then it becomes a display-piece only, because ain't no way to transport without snapping the legs.

>>55072522
What's he holding?
Generic scrap?

Great set of converions/bases.

So how's TTB 2nd edition? Any major changes?

>>55077581
It's more 1.5 than an actual second edition, I've not played much 1e and decided to get the 2e book on a whim, it's beautiful.

>>55076346

That is indeed interesting. Thank you.

>>55075163
Broad strokes in particular for Titania: Nekima and she have a deal on, where they'll support each other against Lilith to get Nekima on the throne. They both know they're going to betray each other and believe they'll be strong enough to come up on top. Titania in specific knows spells Zoraida thought only she knew, and isn't afraid to use them.
>>55074926
Nellie attempts (and fails) to interview Lady J, who is pissy at her for reasons revealed in the Ressers story. McCabe shows up and hangs out with Nellie before the interview and calms her nerves a bit. Lucius has a coterie of hangers-on, but it's only them, not the entire Guild, and he's salty about it. Hoffman shows up to repair the coffee machine Nellie broke in her anxious frustration, and winds up invited to Latigo for cards as Perdita's realized she doesn't really have any friends among the other Guild masters - apparently Lady J and Soniia have a regular poker night, along with their henchmen. How Lady J can read the cards is questioned, but not answered, and Perdita's super insensitive about Soniia's new maskless look.

>>55078249

Question of wording: do you mean Lady J is pissy at Nelli specifically, or just in general because of Marlowe in the Ressers story?

Also - any indication how Sonnia looks? Just wondering how good a job McMourning did.

>>55078280
Just in general. She's evasive about her past, and uncertain about her future, and gives Nellie basically nothing to work with. It's more she's pissed in general and Nellie is a specific embodiment of why.

They had a description of Soniia, but...well, short version, the only person who thinks she looks okay now is Lady J. She's scarred, torn and bald, but still alive. Perdita suggests she may want another mask just to hide her looks until she heals a bit more.

>>55078309

Jeez, 'Dita. You even know why she had the mask.

>>55078280
>>55078309
>>55078320
"It must feel good to take off that mask," Perdita said, motioning towards Sonnia's face with one of her calloused fingers. "Do you still have it, or did you have to get a new one after it burned up in the fire?"

Sonnia finished chewing her mouthful of bagel, looked up at the younger woman, and tried to keep her voice as controlled as possible. "Do you think I need a mask, Perdita?"

"Que...?" Her eyes flashed wide as she realized how that must have sounded. "No, no, I didn't mean it like that! Just that everyone knows you have a mask, neh? Sonnia and her mask! It's almost part of the uniforme."

"Something to keep me from scaring the children, perhaps?" The hand holding Sonnia's bagel was twitching now.

"Right. No!" Perdita frantically shook her head and threw her hands up in front of her like a shield. "No, that's not what I meant, amiga! You were scaring children long before your face burned off!"

Sonnia's eyes widened in shock, pulling at her stitches and causing blood to bead up at the places where they met the corners of her eyes.

The expression was mirrored by Perdita, whose mind was only just now catching up with her mouth. "Merda, I didn't...!"

>>55078280
Also notable, Lady J's new short-hair look is in solidarity to Soniia.

>>55078417

Pretty cool. Were either among the Masters to get new art? I think Lady J still has long hair in the vs Nico event art.

You know, I hadn't thought about it but it has been a really long time since Seamus has received any new thematic models. He even lost some, what with Molly's promotion.

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>>55078937

lol, I like the mark where she apparently punched the desk.

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>>55078948

>>55078959

badass

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>>55078405
Nice, lol.
Now Pedrita is never going to win Miss Congeniality.

>>55078959
Neat. He looks good with the new arm and leg.

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>>55076462
Crockett looks like a fun model to play. He's got a lot of tricks and a lot of options. As an Arcanist, I'm excited for him the most out of this wave, I think.

Think it's worth grabbing Marcus' box for McMourning? Sabertooth, Rattler, and Myranda seem like interesting options.

>>55079308
Seems pretty strong, given he can shoot into melee and get free obeys.

Might even be worth it to take along with big beaters like Howard.

>>55079822
Being able to full heal each turn means he might be difficult to remove unless you devote something big to him, too. Of course, if you force him to shift and heal, his own game plan is forced to change from what it potentially was.

>>55076500
Holy crap, that's a ton of damage output.

>>55080101

In the beta they had to make it so that Collodi couldn't ramp it up even higher.

>>55078950
Looks like here's a bite-sized chunk missing from her boss marker.

>>55080101
Not really. A max of 11 damage on a model if she gets fast from Collodi. 10 damage max on a normal turn. Will usually only be 6 because at least 1 attack will miss.

>>55080996
I still think she's going to be pretty good, more of a distraction piece, too dangerous to leave alone.
Her + the arcane effigy is going to be fun too.

>>55076462
>That coonskin hat
That is too funny.

>>55078948
Some of this new art is really good. I have been too used to just having the same pictures of models overlaid on top of a bunch of repeated backgrounds.

>Leveticus kidnaps a young girl and forces her to 'dress like a lady'.
The cheeky devil

I'd be interested in seeing McMourning's big speech at the end of the Ressurs story, if it isn't too much trouble. I'm not actually aware of how long it is, so I don't know what a pain it'd be to type out.

>listening to Breachside Broadcast for the first time
>McMourning's accent

>>55083128

His silly accents make it. Shame he can only do 1.5 different female voices though.

>>55083245
It's funny, to be sure, it's just not what I imagined for McMourning.

>>55083288

I always pictured him as sounding like Doc Brown.

Quick, very stupid question: do you guys just glue the models to the base or do you do something to the base first??

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>>55084111
I do very simple street green stuff for my malifaux. for other games I do dirt, cork, water effects, ect.

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>>55078866
Lady J looks pretty cool with short hair actually.

>>55078914
Is that huge stompy Hoffman getting a cup of joe from the office coffee machine?
You'd think he'd build something a little less gargantuan for daily wear.

>>55078985
I hope we get a new Ototo pose like that.
He should be so fucking cool.
Not an Animaniac.

Are there any good list-building online resources still alive?
I used to use ByTheTree, but it died a while back, and the archived version stops early 2016, missing a bunch of stuff.

I don't have a smartphone, so CrewFaux isn't the best option.

>>55085428
Try http://geeksong.com/Malifaux/
Not the most comfortable, but the best of the ones left alive

>>55084111
I use an insert, greenstuff, or just sand+cork. Then I drill into the thing so I can pin the model to the base.

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>>55084111
Dried coffee grounds, model grass, water effect over grass, several types of shrub and foliage.

>>55089452
The paints, they are too thicc.

>>55083308
I read him as Louis cks impression of the scarecrow from the wizard of oz

>>55089452
Those paint jobs are ironic, right anon...RIGHT?!?

>>55089452
Hol up. You be sayin that we wuz steamborg executioners and shieeet?!?

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>>55086514
>Not the most comfortable,
Yeah no kidding, that's barely better than doing it by hand.
Bummer.

Maybe I can just stick to making Book 2 crews and everything will be fine.

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>>55089648
Wait, no, it's worse - only adds to the bottom of the list, so as far as I can tell you can't pick the list and then go back and put upgrades on specific people.
And doesn't apply limitations (like Totems to Master, or Upgrade Keyword).

Bummer.

>>55089491
The image makes it look worse than it is, but I agree, Ramos in particular I wasn't super happy with.

>>55089609
They are what they are? Do you not like them?

>>55089625
WE WUZ GOBERNUR-GENERALZ.

>>55089800
WE WUZ IMPORTANT N SHIET

I need purchase advice. I have this:
Dreamer box
Teddy
Widow weaver
Lelu & lilitu

Lilith box
Nekima
Primordial magic.
What should I get next? Doppelganger, Mr Graves, Stitched?

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Sitting here trying to figure out how to put together my Raspy crew, and I just realized something. Is there any reason why you can't use Cassandra to Understudy the Magical Extension of the Wendigo and then cast one of Raspy's spells, including a (potentially third) set of Ice Pillars?

>>55091363
>What should I get next? Doppelganger, Mr Graves, Stitched?
All of the above desu anon. Those are all the general staples for Neverborn so I would get all of them. If you can only afford one get Doppleganger because she's been out of stock in my local area and the webstore for months

>>55091475
Thanks, I know I should get them all sooner or later, plus Madnesses, but I don't want to splurge buy them all at once, feelsbadman.

>>55091461
Where'd you get those Ice Pillars? I want.

>>55091871
Just a pic I found, but they should be purchasable from here: https://www.gadzooksgaming.com/products/50mm-ice-pillars-gaming-token-bag-of-2

>>55082985
McMourning couldn't hear Seamus. Couldn't hear anything. The world had slowed down to almost nothing. The pulses of energy felt /wrong/ to him. He felt something bleeding out of him, like it was being drawn into the urn.

/What is it, to have a power like this?/ he wondered. For once, his mind was silent, empty of answers.

He looked around, confused. He saw Lady Justice kneeling on the ground next to him, and he could see her Death Marshals in the hallway, reaping the weakened undead. he saw the exhausted /Domadores de Cadaveres/, their hands upon the rim of the cauldron, maintaining the magic that was slowly siphoning the Grave Spirit's power out of Malifaux and into their horrific phylactery.

McMourning's mind hadn't been clear for years. now, though, his mind was free of the distracting voices. In the silence, he imagined every necromancer for miles losing their power at some critical moment, their only weapon against a cruel and indifferent universe snuffed out.

He understood the choice then. The fork in the incision. his paths were splitting, and they would never intersect again. He had to pick one or the other.

On one hand, the clarity he now felt. he could go on to become a respected pathologist, perhaps the greatest the world had ever known. Even if he did nothing more than publish his discoveries on plastic surgery, he would be wealthy and respected for the rest of his career.

On the other hand, where was the value in such a life? He knew that the voices made him more creative, more insightful. Why, he had nearly unlocked the secret to true immortality! Why should he abandon an eternity of genius and innovation for a few petty decades of happiness?

Douglas McMourning stared at his hands. One clean, the other still stained with the blood of an innocent man.

/I can't be both./

So, which would it be?

>>55082985
>>55092261

He looked down at Lady Justice, who had turned her head up toward him. He smiled at her, his face stretching so tight it hurt. Somewhere in his mind, he wanted to weep. "I know," he said, sadness creeping into his voice. "It's the same dilemma for us both. Do we close our eyes tot he truth and allow ourselves to be less than we are, or do we open our eyes and stare fully at the world in all of its horror and madness?"

Justice's brow furrowed in confusion. "Douglas, what are you saying? What's happening?"

With a flick of his wrist, a scalpel appeared in McMourning's bloody hand. "Let's choose sight, shall we?"

He turned and plunged his scalpel into the neck of the nearest Spaniard, an older man with a neatly-cut goatee.

Can some post the picture of McCabe? All the new art has me excited for the potential of more alternate sculpts.

>>55092261
>>55092276

Thanks much. That's really good.

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>>55091461
The way I read the cards, yes you can.
The Ca-3 is nothing to sniff at though - I'd .really. need those Ice Pillars before I burned a big card on another pair.

Oh Cassandra, is there anything you can't do?

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>>55092261
>>55092276
It's always nice when they pull off a well-done character moment.

What sort of crews would you guys build at 25 SS? Some guys I play with want to start a slow grow league. As a TT player I was thinking of using Sensei Yu to lead the crew, with a couple of TT Brothers, a sniper, and perhaps The Lone Swordsman or Izamu.

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>>55093865
Not really a big card tho. Even with -3 ca it's still just a 6'er.

>>55091461
>>55093865
Magical Extension is not a Ca action in and of itself, so Cassandra cannot copy it with understudy.

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>>55094537
Oh sod, you're right - I was focusing on the wording of the abilities.

>>55094430
Fair enough - I couldn't find Cold Nights, but all Raspie's other TN's were relatively high.

>>55094537
Ahhh, good catch. Makes me sad though, but it's probably only fair.

>>55094406
3 mages
The captain
Upgrades
Ptofit

>>55094406
Depends on what master you want to build towards. Yu doesn't get nearly enough out of himself without that 0 so I'd leave that behind for starters, and if you're playing with injuries I'd naturally go for some sturdier units to start with.

Building towards Mei Feng or maybe McCabe I started a 35 SS grow league with

Toshiro
-Command
Graves
Sniper
Obsidian Oni
Shadow Effigy

Toshiro and the Oni speak for themselves, with Komainu soaking up some damage and bumping activations. Wouldn't bother with them without Mei or minion heavy McCabe though.The Sniper was there specifically to bleed units for future games and was probably the most useful model there the first two-three games. With injuries and permadeath in the game you have to play around it so heavily just its presence soaks up AP. Graves is a sturdy enough beater - the Swordman lacks those defensive abilities that you need if you don't want him crippled beyond repair beyond one game - and the Effigy is a very sturdy schemerunner that keeps your leader just that little bit safer.

At 25 including a leader, if you want to be able to go any direction, I'd go with a Sniper, a TTB and then Kang or Ama no Zako with a LRM or Effigy respectively. Keep in mind that Kang is ridiculously slow though, and Ama is not so resilient that she can reliably survive without that Effigy protection. Kang's future purchases should be Graves for that push and melee backup and if you're suspecting a lot of Armor get Kang's upgrade too. With Ama you're gonna want Izamu or even Yasunori to draw the brunt of your opponent's attention.

Or you can go full memelist double or nothing and drop a Yasunori, Terracotta Warrior and Bettari and make it clear that they're gonna lose units. And of course get a Sniper ASAP. Might lose you some friends though.

>>55096321
Thanks for the tips anon. Now that I think of it Graves would be a good idea, and Toshiro will of course shine in low SS games.

>>55096392
Any idea on what master you're gonna work towards? And do you have a 25 SS starting pool total or 25 SS + a Henchman because that's not gonna be balanced.

>>55096709
I probably want to run McCabe eventually. We aren't doing the campaign rules, so the leader of the crew would be free.

>>55096857
That's massively going to favor whoever happens to have access to a 12-13 SS henchman. Do you at least do injuries and the like? Because if not you're not gonna need the Komainu soaking damage or Snipers actively looking for kills.

And for McCabe you'll want to build towards the Emissary instead of Yu and the Obsidian Oni are always nice with their healing on Upgraded units.

>>55096916
We aren't using the campaign system at all. We are just starting with 25ss games and going up to to 50 eventually. I didn't realize that the Obsidian Oni could do that, so I will probably take one. Thanks anon.

>>55097053
So many things to proxy

>>55091363
maybe some insidious madness for summoning and more WP fucking

>>55092276
Well I'm kind of sold. What's a decent McMourning list look like?

>>55092261
>>55092276

Man, I love McMourning. Possibly my favorite character.

Just started Malifaux and got a Ramos and Hoffman starter. What would be some essential next purchases for either of them. I've checked PullMyFinger already but it seems a bit outdated.

>>55100035
The mobile toolkit is great for both of them. 3SS construct that buffs other constructs. You can kill it with Joss to drop two scrap markers for summoning with as well.

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>>55096857
>>55097053
>Free leader
>No injuries
Awww shit, stay away from your Ressur buddies, because Belles and Archie is a bad time.

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Pure Showgirl Colette - workable, or just dumb?

Colette Du Bois -- 2ss
+A Lady's Secret - 2ss
+Arcane Reservoir - 2ss
+Cabaret Choreography - 2ss

Cassandra - 8ss
+Imbued Protection - 2ss

Carlos Vasques - 9ss
+Stunt Double - 0ss

Angelica - 6ss
+Practiced Production - 1ss

Performer - 5ss
Performer - 5ss
Mannequin - 4ss
Mannequin - 4ss

(Upgrades are pretty much placeholders at the moment.)

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>>55100035
Were you moving Guild or Arcanist?
Assuming Guild, the Ortegas have a bunch of useful shit, and a very different style from Hoffman.

I ordered an Ulix and every other box set that has hogs, buffs for pigs, and ulix support. I would like some advice on tactics and paint colours. I just wanna swarm the enemy w/ PIGS.

>>55100035
Well, Strong Women Triumvirate of Guild masters is awesome and have synerge in between them.
Ramos box is awesome because Howard and Joss can find place in any place because they are absolutely awesome. And you can play Ramos by simply getting Mech Rider (need confirmation, i have heard it is nerfed quite hard) and another box of spiders.
Hoffman will very often pick Arcanist Assets upgrade simply to get access to Joss and Howard because they are THAT awesome. Also as was mentioned above - mobile toolkit. Rail Golem is actually better with Hoffman than with any arcanist master.
Hope i helped.

>>55103403
>and paint colours
Black and green. All pig models should be painted green, and then write "ISIS" with arabic alphabet using black on the sides of each pig.

>>55104179
Fair enough. It is thematically appropriate for the stuffed piglets.

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>>55104153
Points-wise, the Rider will take you to 50ss, but I'd seriously question the value to the crew.
Ramos is already maintaining activation control, and there's a point where more spiders is just more shit to keep track of, rather than actually helpful.
As for the nerf, the summoning is now on an 8 not a 6 - not a huge deal - and the scheme marker trigger is arguably better - you throw a single marker futher for each tome, rather than one extra marker per tome.

>>55104179
>ISIS
A spy agency is hardly suitable for pigs; why not just put figgis???

>>55104284
Yes, even more so.
>>55104336
I did not understand you, thank you.
>>55104334
Just saying what i have heard from others. I personally do not own one, because i dont like the idea of bringing the summon spamming model for that cost. But everyone around keep saying it is incredibly good.

>>55104179
Still doesn't beat the skinhead Shenlong crew I once saw.

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>>55104398
Jeans and jackboots Shen?
Hysterical.

>>55104179
Moon Shinobi are roughly on-theme for that too.
Might have to turn the drink gourds into Loony Toons bombs though.

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New thread going up in a second - we're about to drop off.

>>55042520
>>55104988
New thread: >>55105016