Warhammer 40000 general /40kg/

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anyone got any of the new audio books/?

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>>55038505
>bring authentic FW model to local GW shop
>someone asks if its a recast

Don't do this.

>>55038505
Guys SUper NeW tOP SECRET list OF what codices will BE released THIS YEAR
http://natfka.blogspot.ie/2017/08/list-of-codices-to-be-released-this.html
it's just a meme list but I want to die regardless

What kind of mutations do Tzeentch worshippers have? I'm modelling some tzeentch electro priests and apart from them shooting out warp-fire I'm a bit stumped on what mutations to give them.

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This weeks mission and defenders stratagems. TO WAR BROTHERS!!!

>>55038653
Wings
Feathers
Other bird-like features
Non-sexual tentacles
Random arrangements of flesh (the flesh change is particularly powerful with tzeentch)

>>55038653
>>55038708
Tzeentch likes eyes too

>>55038695
The floor is regard for Mon-keigh! Lets boil us a water world.

>>55038708
>>55038712
Thanks for the help guys. Looks like I'm going to have some winged, eye covered flamethrower priests out, that should please Tzeentch.

CHAOS IS THE GRRATEST FACTION FUCK THE CORPSE BIGGER FAG

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>There isn't a single loyalist character short of gulliman who can stop Kharn

Explain this.

>Tyberos and Moloc don't do shit

Explain this loyalists.

>>55038915
>False flagging imperial.

>>55038643
>no mention of daemons
People need to get better at meme rumors, didn't GW say something about daemons getting things "soon" like TS?

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>>55038936
>An IG approach to dealing with his shit

>>55038643
sounds oddly believable
then again doesn't this contradict the leaks that where spammed here a while ago ?
that guy got the dates wrong but he was right about CSM and GK releasing first after regular SM and on the same day

>>55038643
Xenos btfo

Are there any good list builders up or am I going to have to get out a pad and the index books?

>>55039290
Battlescribe

Reposting from the last thread:

Revised list from a beginner

Black templars:
++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [33 PL, 500pts] ++

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, 112pts]: Chainsword, Combi-melta, Jump Pack, Teeth of Terra

+ Troops +

Crusader Squad [5 PL, 98pts]
. 3x Initiate
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sword Brother: Combi-plasma, Power axe

+ Elites +

Dreadnought [7 PL, 148pts]: Assault cannon
. Dreadnought combat weapon w/Heavy Flamer: Heavy flamer

Vanguard Veteran Squad [15 PL, 142pts]: Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Veteran Sergeant: 2x Lightning Claw

++ Total: [33 PL, 500pts] ++

Everything moves up towards the enemy and punching ensues.

Criticism welcome.

For this week's konor mission, you can load a stormraven with 1/3 of your PL, fly to the enemy map edge, disembark turn 2, and then win the game. It's pretty stupid. Even if the stormraven dies then at worst you'll lose 1 or 2 models in whatever unit you're carrying, you roll a number of dice equal to the carried models and remove models of your choice on a 1 so the characters and dreadnought the stormraven is carrying are never in danger.

Quantum shielding is fucking bullshit. Here's how it should work.

When a unit with quantum shielding takes a woind with a multiplier, half the result rounding up.

That's it. No dice roll and no ignoring a 6 wound hit by a fucking lascannon.

>>55039525
it should just be a toughness or save bonus untill it's failed once and then it goes away
right now necrons are the ultimate counter to any titan

Is Smite broken?

In our games, it seems like whomever has the most Psykers ends up kind of dominating. Once you get past their possible deny the witch numbers, it's like free D3 dead models considering the ease of the test.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Working_with_ResinFW.pdf

non-toxic

>>55038631
People grab my sister's of battle all the time without asking. Old models are subject to this too.

>>55039679
for real, and not for play play?

cause i would be pissed if someone grabbed one of my metal models and bent it or some shit.

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>I might not finish my DG in time to help with the chaos comeback
Reee.

>>55039679
Propably because they can't believe anyone would actually suffer through buying, building and painting old sisters of basshole models let alone a full army of them and assume they're recasts.

>>55039672
>First Step
>the first thing you should do is check we haven't fucked up and not sent you the entire kit
My sides.

>>55039671
Do you pay extra points for psykers?

Then no. Although, if GW didn't nerf grey knights it would be.

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Thinking of buying a hellforged leviathan for my DG. Gonna arm it with a Grav-Flux Bombard and Siege drill.

Would that be a deal-breaker to you?

>>55039715
Why wouldn't you recast sisters?

Why would anyone care? People who complain about recasts are turbo faggots.

>>55039708
Don't beat yourself up. Mortarion himself couldn't be bothered to show up until at least week 5.

>>55039720
they itemize everything, and will replace anything that is wrong, or if it is really fucked up

>>55039672
Be warned, FW quality is poor overall, even compared to finecast. Ironic, considering the cost.

At least the pound tanked.

How long did it take you to paint an army that you were actually proud to look at once it was finished?

I only ask because I've been painting for 7 months now and I still feel like every model I finish looks like complete shit.

>>55039734
Nah

Wargames Con just had the jankiest win of 8th, even jankier than Stormravens.

++Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment++
Roboute Guilliman, your Spiritual Liege.

++Vanguard Detachment++
Lord Kaldor Draigo
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor in Terminator armor, w/ Terrify

6 Culexus Assassins

++Vanguard Detachment++
Celestine
Ultramarine Librarian w/ Null Zone and Veil of Time

3 Eversor Assassins
2 Vindicare Assassins

Retributor Squad with 4 Heavy Bolters

Fluffy, right?

>>55039761
FW quality is poor compared to some of the higher end recasters I've used

>>55039762
A long time.

The trick is good paint and REALLY tiny brushes for finish work. They don't last very long though...

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>>55039740
I suppose I can at least get my space mans painted, that way I helped even if I didn't get >us a win

>>55039765
2 in my gaming circle say it's a deal-breaker. Do you mind saying why you wouldn't care?

>>55039776
I am not surprised.

>>55039790
Proxy it and see if it's OP as fuck. If it dominates the game, it's probably too powerful.

>>55039735
Becuase it's obvious you broke the law to do it, it's like going through a red light when there's no traffic around. Even if it doesn't cause any harm people see it as taboo.

>>55039775
Love it. I dont quite do that but I do use Celestine, Inquisitor in Terminator armor, an assassin, some scions and a valk filled with Bullgryn for some turn 1 aggressive behavior.

>>55039813
well that build is destructive as fuck but short-ranged, I see pros and cons with it but it's the Gravs -5 AP and monsters/vehicles get hit 5x thing that's pissing everybody off

>>55039775
I'll never understand WAAC faggots. I hate the shit that they pull and I can't comprehend why they don't enjoy making fluffy lists.

>>55038936
Russ v. Kharn
Who wins?

>>55039790
Because I'm not a gaping anus. I play in a regular group of around 10 people and we talk to each other. If we see that something is beyond OP, we agree to give fair warning before using it so the opponent can counter it, as we usually do 'blind' listbuilding with only the faction known. But what we'd never do is forbid a model. That's a slippery slope for whiny cunts to abuse and kills part of the fun.
I'd rather stop playing than submit to some fat neckbeard that can't see his feet telling me what I can and can not play with. And that's what those people are.

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I'm moving to St. Paul, MN in a bit. What's the 40k scene there? What are the best stores to play at?
Looking to avoid high school kids and play casual games

>>55039904
eh, they're cool enough they're just skeptical to FW as potential cheesemongering

None of us are waac tier but every now and then someone pulls something cheeky. This Dread is considered cheeky.

>>55038643
>Every codex is Marines or Imperium humans

Sounds legit. Obviously a total guess, but it sounds legit.

Are Stormboyz good in small units?

Or is their greatest strength in being a horde of boyz with over twice the movement value

>>55039860
It's almost like shitty character targeting and "Not Unbound" rules have "EXPLOIT ME" written on them.

>>55039341
He asked about a good One though

>>55039917
You'll never know unless you try playing with it. Of course if your opponent doesn't take any las or melta equivalents, gets rekt and the cries about it, you'll not have learned anything. Play a few games and you'll see.

>>55039929
I could see a group of ten working but anything smaller would need a lot of cover and no artillery to get to a target

>>55039840
Its not against the law to buy recasts of copywritten or trademarked goods only to sell them. Hell even making them is legal as long as you arent trying to sell them.

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Any guesses on how expensive morty is gonna be?

>>55039972
Of course, half a dozen boys isn't much threat to anything. Shame thats the amount you have to buy them in.

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>>55039929
>muckin' about with small units

>>55040010
would love for it to come in a triumvirate with his deathshrouds and typhus.

but we all know it will be a single model with the same price as magnus.

>>55040005
Thanks for the input, Romania, but actual countries are talking.

>>55040034
If you're aiming to fill out a Brigade detatchment, then you need to
Though I don't really think there's value in aiming for that many comand points before youe army's got its own stratagems

>>55040010
i say the model looks about nagash-size so take his price as a starting point

>>55040057
Its not illegal to buy counterfeit goods in America, Australia or Canada from what ive read and im willing to go out on a limb and say it probably isnt in most euro countries either.

>>55039720
it happens , better to warn people to check rather than dive straight in and think they lost it themselves

>>55040097
it's not illegal to buy them , but the goods themselves are illegal. if they're found they're liable to be taken away and destroyed i think

>>55040144
>be playing in FLGS
>jackboot thugs break in
>there it is!
>grab your precious recasts and stomp them to cancer dust

>>55039890
>Old lore Russ
Russ would win but Kharn would win some respect with his ferocity.

>Horus Heresy Series Russ
Russ ends up Dreadnoughted, Kharn walks away fine, Armageddon is destroyed and somehow even more Shards of Magnus are created, but the next time we see Russ he acts like he won a great victory.

>>55040075
Model size has nothing to do with price, otherwise a primaris librarian wouldn't cost as much as a rhino

>>55040180
that's more due to age and expected sales

>>55040144
Thats completely wrong, find me one instance of a non dangerous or restricted counterfeit good being taken away from an average person without there being reason to believe they were selling them.

>>55040097
You can be fined anywhere from €1000 to €15000 for buying counterfeit goods in most EU countries. Even if you bought it via internet from outside the EU. Customs agencies are required to destroy counterfeit goods and, in most countries, to report you to the IP holder who then can, aside from any fines, initiate civil proceedings.
That being said, my club has bought thousands of Euros worth of recasts and nobody ever gave a fuck.

In short, it's illegal but those laws were made for fashion items like fake designer hand bags and customs agents don't care about packets full of delicious chinese cancer.

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Decent day today. 2nd day on my Bloat Drone, finished with the base colours and did one shade on the armour. Need to shade the flesh and start on details next.

Also primed white and shaded athonian camoshade 20 poxwalkers.

What did you guys do today?

>>55040180
if size would be the sole criteria, you are right.
It is not.
-Big Model, probably too big/pointintese for most games and opponents might complain
-Hardly anyone will buy more than one
-extremly iconic unit
-really big centerpiece unit, so painters collectors and other non-gamers migh tbe interested in it.

See all of those fit nagash as well

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Store birthday goodies

Neat

>>55039725

That's literally the most idiotic argument I've seen on here.

Let me follow your stupidity;

>Is a 1 point Baneblade broken?
>Did you pay extra points for the Baneblade? Then no!

>>55040229
Good to know about the EU i was wrong on that one but atleast in the US you cannot be charged or have them taken away for owning them. As for customs that would count as importing which is far away from owning.

>>55040322
Does everyone else consider the new primaris captain five steps back for the 30th anniversary, compared to the imperial space marine for the 25th?

>>55039679
Jesus, I cringe when I remember the one time I was like 12 and saw a crazy awesome converted salamander captain and just picked it up all willy nilly

>>55040322
I want that Cpt.

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>>55040064
>not running 3 warbosses and 6 full mobs of boyz

>>55040179
DEEPEST LORE

>>55039672
>We recommend priming your model with a fine matt car body primer, such
as can be found in most hardware stores.
Holy shit, even FW can acknowledge that Citadel spray is grossly over costed...

>>55040343
Owning itself is never the problem. The act of buying it is. Fuck, I had to negotiate a merger in the UAE and I was told as an anecdote that it was illegal to buy satellite dishes, yet every house had at least 2. Turns out the only requirement was not to get caught buying it.

>>55038936
any HQ that interrupts him with CP or just charges and knocks him out like that?

>>55038936
High Crusader Baldy Bloke from the Dindu Templars btfos Kharn

>>55040322
The only Primaris character that i really like

>>55040467
>any HQ that interrupts him with CP

what?

>>55039890
before or after russ's fall to chaos?

>>55039672
>non-toxic
Resin is non toxic. The only health problem with resin is inhaling the dust and this is true of all fine dusts, regardless of what they consist of.

Try learning what toxic means.

>>55040436
They're making that recommendation because citadel sprays are not primers.

>>55040477
speak english nigger

>>55039860
>I can't comprehend why they don't enjoy making fluffy lists.
I can't comprehend why you would deliberately put together an army list that you know full well is weak.

Powerful fluffy lists are perfectly possibly but it's clear that you take some moral superiority from taking your weak lists.

Google "scrub mentality"

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>>55040255
I did a lot on my Death Guards, I finished the armor, and the horns/teeth, the rest is still underway

>>55040337


Psykers cost about 25 points per power slot, for d3 mortal wounds with a failure chance and the possibility of your power being denied.

>>55040503
This is true, but resin tends to break down into very fine dust that can go airborne much easier than other materials. Hence all the warnings about it.

>>55040495
He means the counter charge strategem.

>>55040525
>8 wave serpents is the only way to play

There's a difference between being a chessy faggot and playing the game to have fun.

>>55038936
>Needing characters
He's a brain-dead retard like the rest of his Legion, just shoot him with artillery LMAO.

>all these fucking winged primarchs
cut us some slack GW how the fuck am I supposed to transport one those

loyalists wont have to put up with that shit

>>55040525
tbt, I don't think this is exactly a case of "scrub mentality" so much as a missed testcase in design. 8th is in many ways an obvious beta.

>>55039840
>Muh corporate dick sucking laws

It's not against the law to make your own recasts as long as you don't sell them.

As for China casts, China doesn't care, but you'll probably get cancer.

>>55040628
What are some transports guilliman can ride in?

>>55040628
Detachable, magnetized wings?

>>55040639
>LEE GANZER XDDDDD
Have you tried not eating your toys?

>>55040628
Wings aren't the problem on my Magnus, the fucking staff/ glaive is. I've got to transport him in a rigid plastic container with a metal bottom plate and a strong fucking amgnet in his base.

>>55040671
Why live if I can't lick my tiny plastic men and women.

>>55038876
Your conversion is stupid I've been saying it from the beginning and it's still true now.
Dark mechanicum don't worship any chaos god, they are literally only on the side of chaos because it allows them to break the rules and build whatever they want.

>>55040693
>not hotgluing instead

>>55038631
Its understandable, As recasted stuff is basically the same (terrible seams and other errors) as fw, i have a squad of recasted 30k marines among my other 30k stuff, its impossible to tell them apart.

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>>55040697
>Triggered

>>55040671
I swear, people must think that being within a mile of a resin toy is going to give them cancer anymore.

>>55040703
I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds dirty.

>>55040628
>how the fuck am I supposed to transport one
Official GW carrying cases:
https://youtu.be/kXgYfQUHKKA

>>55040554
This meme.
Are you doing resin dust lines?
If not then you are fine.

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>>55040756
You are dumb.

>>55040732
>https://yuki.la/gif/8117205

Abandon hope ye who enter here

>>55040766
>not snorting resin for the pleasure of slaanesh and nurgle
Why even live

>>55040697
Anon, you've never replied to me before. I've posted this in maybe 2 other threads, one a /wip/.

Why can't my guys worship the gods, what difference does it make? Can't they be studying the effects of corruption or some bullshit like that?

>>55039906
>moving to MN
I didn't think somalians played 40k?

>>55040766
Sanding big models like tanks can kick up a lot of dust. I don't worry when I'm just using resin shoulder pads or something, but if I'm cleaning a tank I'll put on a mask.

>>55040833
Yeah, and if you want to play *as* Somalians, there's always AK-47 Republic.

>>55040849
Wet sand that shit yo.

>>55040888
>wet sand
???
also checked

>>55041112
>put water on model and sandpaper
>sand it down
>dust sticks in the water rather than flies up into the air

>>55040493
I dunno the Chaplain, Librarian and Apothecary all look really cool.
Still not 35$ cool.

>>55039708
I was going to paint and prime my death guard, now it's raining. Sorry Plague Marines!

>>55041112
See
>>55041151
Some sandpapers are made specifically for this. It also allows for much finer grit than dry sanding, so you can get a smooth finish.

If you're using a dremel, just squirt some water on there every few seconds with an eye dropper.

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>>55041221
>not priming indoors and enjoying the noxious vapors
Nurgle scrub

>>55040697
Umm... no? Some of them, for sure. but others see the 4 gods as all pieces of the omnissiah. Others worship one specific god. A tech priest can be seduced by chaos just as much as anyone else. Why are you being such a faggot?

>>55041244
thats occams razor level simplicity, fucking hell

>north america goes from 80/20 in favor of chaos to 55/45 in about an hour

what's up America? is everything allright?

>>55040766
Its the same retarded paranoia 4chan spreads about airbrushes too. They once read about some paint encepholopathy, and now fear monger it to readers too. Despite it being an illness that shows up in actual professional painters who will spray more paint in 30 seconds than a hobbyist will use on his entire army

Resin is also kind of a nonsense term since there's a bazillion types of resin anyways. Wear a dust mask and stop worrying you idiots

>>55041437
Just gonna be a 3-3 with a final tiebreaker that coincides with Morty and the DG release

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>>55039703
They pick them up and see if they're heavy or not.

>>55039715
Because I've played them since their release. Pic related, you.

I need some advice.

I am making a kill team for Shadow War, and I am going for a Inquisitorial warband. I don't have any models, however, so I have to buy them.

I want Inquisitor Greyfax, because that model is awesome. Kinda sad that it requires ebay or a "triumvate" shitbox with 2 models I don't care about, but fuck that, I want it.

For the rest, I need something akin to this setup:
>1: Storm Bolter
>2: Storm Bolter
>3: Storm Bolter, Krak Grenades
>4: Sniper Rifle, Red Dot Laser Sight, Autopistol
>5: Krak Grenades, Plasma Pistol

Especially the stormbolters is an issue. I might just use normal bolters, but I still need the other models. I don't have a sniper rifle, so I need that. I might have a plasma pistol, but it is likely attached to a space marine arm.

Is there a 5+ man box that has a sniper and a plasma pistol? probably a stretch, especially for regular flak armour guys.

I know my group is very anal about WYSIWYG, so I need everything somewhat properly represented. If I am not using bolters, I know I can get away with stormbolters, simply because they look close enough.

I am a bit curious about what boxes are "good" for some more inquisitorial looking blokes, rather than boring cadian soldiers. They are not Imperial Guardsmen, after all.

>>55041221
I have some Vallejo surface primer for the times I really just want to paint something weather be damned. Worth having around.

>>55041700
Buy the bits off eBay. Five Terminator arms with Storm Bolters are really cheap and you should be able to get a plasma pistol off some sort and a sniper rifle too.

>>55041700
You want bitz sellers and third party miniatures providers.

You can buy sniper rifles from Anvil Industries that are really really good looking, but they're retardedly expensive. You can also convert a bolter into a sniper rifle with some plastic pipe. Just chop off the barrel, add some pipe, and throw a stalker bolter scope on the top of the bolter.

>>55041437
GW starts the game with Chaos winning.
>Guard Players find out they can win T1 with move orders and deep striking.
> it will swing harder as the day goes on and people figure it out.

>>55041700
>Is there a 5+ man box that has a sniper and a plasma pistol?
Imperial guard command squads. The cadian one definitely has both, the catachan one probably does but I don't care to check.

>>55041875

Last game it turns out you can use the CSM Cultist Refill Stratagem to just redeploy those Cultists onto the board edge to deny the Imperium an escape route, then if you have the CP for it, autopass morale for them when they start getting chewed through so they don't run. Then you just headhunt with the rest of your team until you have enough victory points to secure a victory.

>>55040756
I am so lucky that I can field a bug army that can fit in a Zuca

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Ynnari List, where do I go from here anons? I can't seem to find a heavy support/anti tank I like. I tried the Death Spinner but AP - and hoping for 6s isn't that great.


Eldrad
Yvraine

Corsair Skyweavers x 10
Corsair Skyweavers x 10

Solitaire
Wraith guard with D Scythes x 5
Wraith guard with D Scythes x 5

Wave Serpent with Vector Engines
Wave Serpent with Vector Engines

That's 1601 so roughly 400 points left for anti tank or heavies. Thoughts?

>>55040322
>remove The Imperial Space Marine as a unit
>start selling it again
you cunts

>>55042874
Fire prism?
A bit expensive for one shot, or against lighter vehicles u can use the d3 S7 shots, but i have seen it work. Also has range.
Other than that brightlance, maybe on your waveserpents or a warwalker.

>>55042994
he's right in the index, man

>>55040493
and yet the regular captain is only useful for buffing units since the gravis captain is a better beatstick.
does anyone else here feel like characters are useless in close combat now?

>>55043032
codex overturns the index

>>55041700
>Is there a 5+ man box that has a sniper and a plasma pistol? probably a stretch, especially for regular flak armour guys.
Command squads have it. Snipers are also available as metal models. For Stormbolters you might try to either cut of arms from a SM sprue or glue two bolters together. Other than the hatchmounted stormbolters on vehicles i dunno about IG. And those are really big, compared to handheld.

>I am a bit curious about what boxes are "good" for some more inquisitorial looking blokes, rather than boring cadian soldiers. They are not Imperial Guardsmen, after all.
Tempestus Scions maybe? Or some AoS free people boxes if you want a more medieval/renaissance look.
Or FW krieg/elysian, but those will cost you.

>>55043082
Is this one of those "I'm just pretending to be retarded" things?

>>55043063
the problem for is that they seem to get ALL attacks against them. Which they dont survive.

>>55043130
no this is one of those "you're just retarded" things

>>55043181
You can use units from the Index that aren't in the Codex.

>>55043205
because it's convenient for you?

>>55043244
And also rules legal.

>>55039646
Or you could actually take combined arms and just shoot them with plasma or auto cannons instead of trying to bash your head against a wall.

Superheavies shouldn't be an end all solution to your problems QS enforces that.

So are autocannons just shit now?
I was looking over the rules for my thunderbolt and was thinking about how much armour 2 twin autocannons could punch through
>8 shots
>4 hits
>2 wounds against T7
>1 wound after a 3+ save -1
>2 damage after all that
Doing a HP or two last edition or causing a pen was a big deal in 7th, but that much fire power to do 2 maybe 4 wounds is just unimpressive

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Got my 3D printed defense searchlights in the mail this afternoon. Now I've got to find something to mount them on.

>>55043244
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/codexes-your-questions-answered-july-5gw-homepage-post-2/

>There are a few options that are missing in the codex that appear in the index: why is that? Does that mean I can’t use these models in my army anymore?

While the indexes are designed to cover a long history of miniatures, the codexes are designed to give you rules for the current Warhammer 40,000 range. There are a few options in the indexes for some Characters and vehicles that are no longer represented in the Citadel range – certain Dreadnought weapons that don’t come in the box, or some characters on bikes, for example.
Don’t worry though, you can still use all of these in your games if you have these older models. In these instances, use the datasheet from the index, and the most recent points published for that model and its weapons (currently, also in the index).
They still gain all the army wide-bonuses for things like Chapter Tactics and can use Space Marines Stratagems and the like, so such venerable heroes still fit right in with the rest of your army.


So if your unit is in the Index but not the Codex, you can use the Index datasheets and points to use him.

>>55043302
says who?

>>55043332
To add to that, if you have Legacy units (models that have Index options that aren't in the Codex, like Dreadnoughts with twin Autocannons, you can use them with your opponent's permission so long as you use the Index datasheets and pay the Index points.

>>55043370
Or just run them as Mortis Dreadnoughts from the Forgeworld Index.

>>55038631
Wish I knew recast details these days.. spent too much on forgeworld -.-

Be a bit fucked as I work for GW though... oh well.

>>55043370
>your oppenents permission
Can't I use a grilled cheese sandwich as a baneblade with my opponents permission too?

>>55043366
2/10 made me reply

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>>55038505
Why is 40k so god damn redpilled

>>55043366
GW >>55043332

For stuff with a completely separate datasheets with no codex equivalent like the Imperial Space Marine or a Librarian on bike it's pretty cut and dried.

>>55043321
>8 shots
>>4 hits
are you sure the thunderbolt does not get the -1 to hit when moving because autocannons are heavy weapons?

>>55043332
>we hate our loyal consumers
>oh shit they heard us!
>yeah sure use old stuff totally cool!

Fucking asshole move, why aren't the consumer outrage at this clear anti-consumer practice?

>>55043455
It has BS3+ and drops to 4+ since it has to move, didn't wanna go into all that if I didn't need to

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>>55043332
jesus christ

>>55043370
>you can use them with your opponent's permission

Eh, no. No permission required. Fuck ya on about cracka?

>>55043473
I'd love to know what it's like to have a mindset like yours

>>55043321
They tend to be pretty poor unless you're firing at their ideal targets like jetbikes or light vehicles.

>>55043474
oh, sorry. Didnt know that.
But yeah. autocannons can be rather unimpressive, due to armor pen only -1, which means almost always a 4+ save if not better.

>>55043407
Each bite is a wound?

>>55043480
what's wrong anon that's a good thing

>>55043483
There a grey area were there is a replacement datasheet in the codex but it lacks a specific option.

Aren't the index vs codex wars a bit outplayed?
What are we gonna talk about next? Conscripts? Berserkers as troops?
black library authors?

Did GW fudge the numbers to make Chaos win once?

>>55043332
So what about wargear? Can a mounted chaos lord use the codex weapons or is he stuck with the shitty index ones?

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>>55038505
>Rumors of AdMech codex being followed by Tau Codex
>People saying there's not enough model releases to drive sales
>Sitting here thinking that'd a great time to drop Cyraxus and sell new AdMech and Tau forgeworld models

>>55043407
As long as you keep the grease off the table, sure. Plate that nigger up.

>>55043508
>the bases are crackers
>vehicles are sandwiches
>each time a model takes a wound the owner has to take a bite of it, when it's slain the owner has to eat it
>looser is whoever gets full first
Foodhammer 40,000 calories when?

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>>55038936

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>>55043536
The FAQ fixed Berserkers as troops. They are explicitly troops if world eaters now.

>>55043577
>in the grim darkness of the fat future, there is only the itis.

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>>55043525
It doesn't make any fucking sense. I've got two entries for a chapter champion that contradict each other but are both valid and two rulings from GW's own mouth that are contradicting each other
>The idea being that the rules for units in codexes eventually supersede the rules for them presented in the index books.
>Don’t worry though, you can still use all of these in your games if you have these older models. In these instances, use the datasheet from the index, and the most recent points published for that model and its weapons (currently, also in the index).

By this phrasing I can use my "outdated" model because it's valid by a set of rules that have been invalidated by new rules.

>>55043536
The cult troops thing is fucking retarded, just because it go FAQ'd people act like it was always that way when they were really cheating.

You still get people here saying you can take berserker troops out the index because "they're technically a different unit that didn't get a datasheet in the codex" and shit like that. "you don't even need to be world eaters, they never said you have to be to use those datasheets!"

>>55043483
You're supposed to use the latest rules, so models that had stuff in the Index, like LasPlas Razorbacks and Twin AC Dreads, that lost it in the Codex aren't legal in official lists, unless you get permission.

From the same article.
>Can I choose to use the rules and/or points for units from my index instead of the new ones in the codex once released?
In your own games, if you and your opponent agree, you can, of course, play with whatever rules you like.

In all future publications and official events though, it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets. It will also be assumed that you’re using the most up to date points for matched play, in this case, those included in the codex.

So pay the Index points and use the Index datasheets, but with your opponent's / TO's permission. Shouldn't really matter in casual games, but they always have the option of saying no.

>>55043608
7th
Inquisition had 2 valid ruleset
SoB had 2 valid ruleset
Agents of the Imperium was Codex: Fuck you we don't care

>>55043548
See, but the problem with that theory is it assumes forgeworld can into logic and common sense.

>>55043608
W-What?
It's as simply as use the latest rules.
Plague Marines are in Index Chaos and Codex CSM. You use the Codex version because 8th edition Codex > 8th edition Index.

>>55043653
Can we all agree 7th can suck a dick?

>>55043541
If it's the Index datasheet, you pay the Index points and use the Index options. If you want the "non-shitty" Codex options, use Codex models and pay the Codex points or get permission.

>>55043677
>>55043649
>>55043483
Sounds like it needs an FAQ.

Is it, dare I say it, another case of the most playtested edition ever?!?

>>55043608
As long as you have permission, you can run Index models. It's GW's way of letting you use old models without having to argue about what rules they use.

They essentially set a standard set of houserules for old models. You're supposed to use the latest rules, but if your opponent/TO is ok with you using the Index, you're fine too.

>DE box came in today
>can't get started on them because I'm moving soon

On another note what purples should I use for may fledgling kabal?

>>55043710
More like another case of fucking retards.

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I would like some feedback on my supposed cheese list.

>Hawk carries all strike squads unless the objectives say otherwise
>Hawk says FUCK YOU to the biggest thing and pings everything else

>Grand Masters take a shortcut with gate and swing around hammers that hit on 3's

>Strike Squads mop up wide infantry units with storm bolters and swords.

>>55043710
I'd prefer an FAQ or errata twice a month compared to leaving rules conflicts/exploits and broken as shit armies untouched for most of an edition

>>55043677
except they're telling me I can use the rules from the index if I have the models. So I can still equip my dreadnought with autocannons and my chapter champion with a relic blade because that's what models I have.
except nobody is going to be tracking the ages of my models so I can still be building bike techmarines and whatever I want since I'm given permission to use those models

>>55043540
Theyve been fudging the numbers the entire campaign.

The only way they could have run a semi-balanced campaign is to have three factions opposing each other.

>>55043710
Eat a dick. GW is trying to be reasonable here and not shit on people with conversions and such.

>>55043679
I miss Traitor Legions.

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>>55043732

>DEldar

<<<yeah this should be right up your back alley

>>55043722
If a unit is in the Codex and Index you can only legally use the Codex version. Otherwise it's houserules. If it's not in the Codex you use the Index rules.

>>55043761
Sorry, but your conversions are illegal, as of the new codex. If you ask nicely and the conversion look good people could let you proxy them but I'm afraid some options are no longer available.

>>55043710
It's really easy, dude.
>I want to use Index models that were not updated in the Codex.
Go for it.
>I want to use Index models that were updated in the Codex (LasPlas Razorbacks and AC Dreads)
Use the Index datasheet, pay the Index points, get permission, and you're good to go. We even have the rules set up so you're not arguing about how it would play.
>I want to use the Codex models.
EZPZ

Think of it this way. Index is a set of universal house rules to let you play your older models.

>>55043751
You're allowed to use any unit in the Index legally with whatever model you want that makes sense. The literal model is irrelevant.

Which Chapter Tactic would be best for a dread heavy army? Iron Hands or Salamanders?

>>55043773
Except if the unit in the index has an option that was removed from the codex, in which case you get to argue yet some more about whether you can still field your Rifleman from 5th ed.

>>55043773
Which is why I keep saying that you need permission to play them. I don't disagree with you here.

>>55043817
Iron Hands for extra survivability, Sallies for reliable firepower. I dont think there is a bad choice but I would lean towards Sallies.

>>55043815
You cannot use a Index rules for anything fully represenyed by the codex. You don't get to just ignore points, stats, and rules changes.

>>55043817
Ironhands makes a difference with survivability, and since dreads are still vulnerable as balls use that.
Venerable iron hands dreadnoughts are tough as anything, they can tank deathstrike missiles

>>55043804
>get permission
So they're basically illegal and you have to beg for house rules then? Ok, got it.

And then the world eaters berserkers that didn't get updated. They are they still legal as troops in an chaos daemons army.

>>55043833
If they let you use the Index options than it's houseruled. If it's updated in the Codex is assumed you'll be using the legal updated datasheet.

>>55043839
Sorry that I misunderstood you m8

>>55043839
Irl, I can't think of anyone, save someone trying to be a cunt, that would demand such a thing.
It's not like you are trying to bring a baneblade in 5e.

>>55043817
Salamanders. Although keep in mind that Sallies heavily favor use of Tactical Marines over Primaris if that's a concern for you.

>>55043804
>being reasonable
>good sportsmanship
>good communication
Go away, you're not welcomenin this hobby

>>55043856
>>55043867
Didn't the faq expressly say you could so long as it had an index entry?
Why would you need permission to something GW said is legal to use in matched play?

>>55043867
That has an explicit FAQ change.
>>55043595

>>55043817
>>55043851
>>55043877
Salamanders if you're taking Ashmantle, otherwise use Iron Hands

>>55043901
I believe the FAQ states you have to ask permission. Only Codex datasheets and Index datasheets that aren't in a Codex are truly legal in Matched Play unless house ruled.

>>55038936
I call Lord Gearhart to the table. Hell, he could fairly easily kill Guilliman as well.

>>55043901
You have to use the most recent rules. You only get to use Index rules for things that are missing. Also it was an article rather than a FAQ which is contributing to the confusion.

>>55043933
Yeah, so it's basically a house rule because it's not a legal unit anymore.
If you tell them "no", then they have no choice to accept that and they cant use it.

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Does anyone play this game just to have fun anymore?

>>55043873
Honestly, I really doubt anyone would give a shit at a casual game night. BUT they do have the option.

Just think of it as universal houserules for old models GW has published. You can show up to some rando game night with people you've never played with and still have rules for your old models. This just keeps people from trying something at tournaments, or allow your local TFG to refuse to play with you, which he's allowed to do under these rules.

>>55043933
" if you and your opponent agree, you can, of course, play with whatever rules you like." from the article
"In all future publications and official events though, it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets"
this is stupid

>>55038936
I kinda wonder if Lukas the Trickster could stop him by losing a duel.

>>55043968
That's what I said
>this is stupid
Agreed, it's not very complicated

>>55043949
No. Fun is a casualty. Buy more crap, goyim.

>>55043948
You are correct. But now you have a standard set of house rules you can use. Timmy can show up with his older brother's old-ass Rifledreads and still gets to play even though he can't afford to buy the Codex.

Honestly, I really don't think the majority of the people would say no to playing someone with "Legacy" models. They do have the option to though, which is the cost to allowing a player to use "outdated" models.

>>55043949
Yes. The joke lists help

>>55044013
why bother with models now? Since now they are removing rules for models at random and adding rules to models that do not exist.

>>55043968
The problem with making stuff like that "official" is it tends to be a huge pain in the ass for TOs trying to verify the legality of lists for tournament. Don't be surprised if a lot of events just disallow Index rules entirely in the future.

>>55040578
The minut you say that an army is cheesy you're telling everyone that you're a scrub.

"Look at me, I handicap myself so that I don't feel bad about my refusal to improve"

>>55043968
Why? You want to use your old models that don't have rules? Here are the rules. Just keep in mind that your opponent may not want to play with your old models.

Honestly, anyone who tells you no is probably a person you didn't want to play with anyways.

The reason Index's exist is so you can play with whatever army you want instead of just Marines, Spikey Marines, and Grey Marines. Otherwise what would you use, a 7th edition Codex? You literally wouldn't be able to play an army until their Codex dropped.

>>55044032
Dramatic much?

>>55044032
Dude, I don't fucking know what you want me to tell you. GW is trying to keep the rules updated while still allowing players the greatest flexibility by giving them rules for using their old shit.

Would you rather they fucking ban all outdated models and tell you to eat shit? Don't play with models if you don't want to. If your opponent doesn't care, game on motherfucker.

>>55044034
Lets be honest this is GW, they probably forgot about the biker dude.
Had you seen the quality of the rules? The amount of FAQ and erratas trying to fix typos and out right missing rules is stupid

Imperium index 2 was basically "ups we forgot melee options"

>>55044046
Fuck my opponent I don't want to feel like I'm pulling some bullshit to work my advantage.
Although the only think I have to extend this to is the Imperial Space Marine and my chapter champion model getting a relic blade

>>55044093
Not remove rules for existing models while adding random rules for non existing models.

Like who cares if it has a model or not? We have been converting the missing models for decades now.

>>55044105
"Relic Blade" isn't exactly visually drstinctive. Is there a reason you can't just call it a Champion's Blade now?

>>55043767
anon I'm too lazy to look up what colour matches that the best you'll have to spoonfeed me.

>>55044130
GW has been removing options for shit they don't sell anymore. They've been doing that for a while. I don't like it, and wish they allowed and promoted converting again, but that opens them up to legal issues from 3rd party makers.

If you have an issue with that, talk to GW Legal.

>>55044147
a champion's blade sucks rules-wise. It's -2 rend and an extra attack.

>>55044209
Jesus suck it up. You aren't complaining about a model. You're complaining about a rules nerf.

>>55044105
I don't get what point your making, dude. You don't want to ask your opponent permission to use Legacy models? Then don't play with Legacy models, use the most up to date ones.

You're not "pulling" anything. This is all shit laid out by GW. It gives people a better chance to play with old models. You don't have to argue house rules for them, cause GW gave you the house rules and stated that as long a your opponent or TO is cool with it, you're good to go.

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Someone try and sell me on DEldar or AdMech. I'm basically deciding between these two for my first army and I'm struggling.

>inb4 flip a coin
Boring.

>>55044197
There's a fine line between a simple kitbash, versus a model that has no art and no model and isn't based on a previous model though.

My army in 7th was led by a Chaos Lord of Tzeentch on a Disc. And I know a few folks that made Carapace Vet Arbites armies.

But GW doesn't make either, so who cares?

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>>55038936
What about a Guardsman with a brick?

>>55044209
Then use your relic and/or a CP to give him the burning blade.

>>55044252
Pirates or robots?

>>55044252
>Boring.

The purpose of flipping the coin is not to allow an unpredictable universe to make the decision for you, but to find out, in that single moment, as the coin hangs weightlessly in the air and time seems to slow down, the side on which you truly hope it will land.

>>55044013
I wouldn't allow him to use illegal units, why would I?

That dark eldar with the dildo hands is no longer valid, that meme guard character sly marlbo, SQUATS are no longer valid. Why should I make an exception for some dreadnought? Only retards dont magnitize.

>>55044315
This. When you flip a coin you find out what you really wanted.

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So does covenant of tzneetch just not work for renagades and heretics because according to the rules no modifiers are allowed to change overwatch from hitting on a 6?

>>55044258
What rules exist for units without models? I'm genuinely curious, as I thought GW pulled those out of books already.

So...I kind of want to try out 2nd Edition for shits and giggles. I want to experience the craziness of Vortex Grenades, Noise Marine Terminators, Madboy Charts, and Foulspawn eating up enemy models like an evil Nurglite Pacman.

Any advice for drumming up interest in 2nd ed?

>>55044247
>You don't want to ask your opponent permission to use Legacy models? Then don't play with Legacy models, use the most up to date ones.
But if I do that I have to accept that half my army is "outdated" and "no longer valid". Like, what, do I just take them out back and burn them? Is that what GW is driving to me to?

Fuck GW, I hate them so much.

>>55044376
2nd is trash, play 3rd instead

>>55044364
specific rule overrides general rule
codex / index overrides rulebook

>>55044389
Massive babies like you should just go burn their armies
The community would be much better without you

>>55044343
That's your prerogative dude, and you have every right to say no.

I wasn't saying you had to play with them. I'm saying GW gave them the chance to play at all. They just wouldn't play with you.

>>55044375
Just wargear options in 7th like carapace armour for veterans or power armour for inquisitors.

Now it's just index stuff like chaos lords/captains on bikes.

>>55044252
DEldar- Hit fast and hard. Extremely mobile with access to lost of hard hitting weapons on lightly armored troops and vehicles. But, also have a small number of slower more durable troops in the Covens freakshow. They also have one of the best, most up to date plastic ranges in the game and excellent models across the board (Except Drazhar).

AdMech- New army, so likewise a good plastic model range. One of the forces that is quintissentially 40k in appearance. They get lots of unique weapons and toys that no other Imperium army gets to play with. Very good shooting in general. However, no transports means the army is often ponderously slow. They are getting their codex soon which is another plus.

>>55044343
What about the bike lord that has a model or the master without a model?

>>55044376
Try Necromunda or Shadow War as a stepping stone first.

Is a terminator sorcerer a good HQ for 1k sons or should I just have another exalted sorceror?

>>55044477
GW said it's valid so it's valid, simple as.
It's good enough for the tourniments so it's good enough for the plebs.

>[blank] players shouldn't even be considered people
Fill in the [blank]

>>55044500
Rolling for nids players
also checked

>>55044389
Welcome to the real world; Half your army is outdated and no longer valid.

Nothing stays relevant forever. Death and Taxes and all that shit.

>Like, what, do I just take them out back and burn them? Is that what GW is driving to me to?
Are you shitting me? GW gave you the tools needed to continue using your models! Like, not even figuratively. They literally wrote a book that lets you use your old models in 8e.

I honestly don't know what anyone can say to help you. Find people who still play an older edition, use the Index, or don't play with your outdated army.

>>55044489
Terminatior Sorcerors are great for deep strike Warp Time shenanigans.

>>55044500
guard

the answer is guard

>>55044390
I started 40k in 3rd, missed on 2nd. I remember the craziness of the Kult of Speed, and when Zzap Guns were autohits.

>>55044481
Thanks, I might as well. As for stuff like Wargear Cards, I figure either printouts or just the general standard of writing out a list properly/don't be a dick.

>>55044500
SOB
only an inhuman monster would go through such punishment to field an army of them

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++Vanguard detachment
Warlord, tenacious survivor, iron hands chapter tactics
Chaplain dreadnought = 204
2 close combat weapons, 2 storm bolters

Eversor assassin = 70
eversor assassin = 70
eversor assassin = 70

++Vanguard detachment
Inquisitor Greyfax = 85
MC bolter

eversor assassin = 70
eversor assassin = 70
eversor assassin = 70
Culexus Assassin = 85
Culexus assassin = 85

++Vanguard detachment
Tempestor Prime = 50
power fist

Eversor assassin = 70
eversor assassin = 70
eversor assassin = 70
eversor assassin = 70
vindicaire assassin = 90

1299

The point is to have an entire army of characters. the culexeus assassins stand in front to absorb firepower as you can only target the closest units. I only have two though. I'm all out of assassins at this point.

should I stick a pair of SM captains in to make it 1500 points, or keep it here?

>>55044583
>80 dollars for a normal squad of bolter bitches
>40 for the immolator tank
This still gets me.

>>55044427

>7th
I'm talking 8e. No reason to bring up 7e in this discussion.

As for the Bike stuff, well maybe we should expect a Captain Bike kit or for them to eventually be pulled from lists.

>But GW doesn't make either, so who cares?
GW cares, which is why they've been cracking down on it.

I don't like that they've been pulling away options, but honestly that's an entire other discussion not relevant to this one, which was what units are allowed and not allowed to be used in 8e games.

>>55044500
Sisters of silence players.

>>55043586
>loyalist

>>55044555
Trips confirms
Guard players are subhuman

>>55044604
You need more Culexus to make the gimmick work. Everyone has plenty of alternative deployment, fliers, and other such things to get around only two.

>>55044489
>1. Have scarab terminators
>2. Have sorceror in terminator armor
>3. Steehl Rehn
>4. Use warptime or whatever other spells you want during psychic phase
>5. ???
>6. Profit.

They're a very fun HQ unit and customizable too, perfect for bashing and self-inserting

>>55044045
Check out bitchlips here. He really thinks trying to bully people will validate his "skill" with broken combos.

If everyone was a shitlord there would only be 5 types of models per army and it would kill the interest of the game. Why not play a more fitting game, like warmahordes. Word is the hardcore players got just what they deserved/wanted with their new edition.

>>55044665
they're for cucking gunlines and heavy weapons mainly

>>55044624
I think they vew the "Captain in a Bike" the same as they do the Dreadknight Grandmaster, in that you can just use a normal version painted fancy to represent him. On the other hand, that wouldn't really work for an Apothecary on a bike or Librarian on a bike.

>>55038958
One fucks around outside the galaxy like that loser that nobody wants to play with so he just skulks in a corner of the store, and the other is a literal gold digging manbitch whose masters were fired by Guilliman and has a known history of getting fucked repeatedly even when surrounded by his entire chapter, let alone when he fights 1v1.

>>55039734

Take a Grav flux and a butcher cannon array

you need the long range option

Anyone can give me a link to the imperium 2 index in Spanish or French?

We have a guy where I play that says the seraphim superior can equip a combi-melta. The english index says you can't but according to him, in the spanish index it says you can.

>>55044833
I mean, does he have the Spanish one with him? Is he Spanish himself?

What are the colours for Blood Axes clan?

>>55044734
>cucking
/pol/ needs to stay in /pol/

>>55044878
We are from Spain, we all use the english codex because the new translations are shit. He has the codex, I haven't seen it myself but some friends told me that yes, it says you can equip a combi-melta.

The battlescribe app only lets you equip a plasma pistol but I really dont trust the app so we want to confirm with a third codex (french or german).

>>55044904
They just badly copy human camouflage.

>>55038631
> Bring recasted forgeworld to local GW
> Show off my fully painted recasts centerpieces to some of the 30k dudes
> Even the 20 year vets can't tell which ones are reallio and which ones arent.
> Tfw my 30k crowd frequently holds discussions about their newest recast orders in the local tijuana flats

>>55044438
Appreciate the response. Do you think with AdMech's Codex being announced there's going to be a fuckton of AdMech players coming out of the woodwork or does that not happen in this game?

is a pure skitarii army still possible? I don't care if it's a game winner or not.

>>55044957
Does Skitarii have HQs or would you use Cult Mech?

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Has anyone had any experience running the marauder destroyer in 8th? It seems like a Flying Fortress of firepower for only 300 pts +missiles
Plus they have a surpreme cool factor

>>55044947
I would expect a few more. But, with all these codexes coming out quickly together for 8th, I don't think that will be a big deal like it might have been in the past.

>>55044968
>Does Skitarii have HQs
no, but I'm pretty sure they have a detachment that doesn't require HQs. I dunno, I don't have the index

>>55044833
Seraphim Superior can only take a power sword and/or plasma pistols

The rest of the superior can triple wield. A pistol, a ranged and a melee weapon
The Canoness can only have ranged/pistol, ranged/melee or pistol/melee. Why? Because SoB that's why.

>>55044978
I was just going to ask that question since I kinda want a glorious Admech flying centrepiece to convert. It's either that or the Stormbird, but I have no idea if either are any good.

>>55044996

That was just in 7e. Now we're completely screwed because we have multiple 150pts Domini as tax and don't even have cheap HQs anymore because for some reason they moved Enginseers to Elites.

>>55044996
The only Detachments without an HQ or Lords of War and the Aux. detachment which you can't really make an army out of. So you'd need at least one Dominus.

>>55039775
Good thing you can't just spam characters to win anym-
Nevermind.

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>>55039775
Reading that list made me nauseous

>>55045037
>>55045057
Eh, it's a gimmick based on the interaction between the Culexus and character targeting rules. Easy to stamp out.

>>55039775
I summon Kharn, in Attack mode.

>>55045023
> HQ or Lords of War
HQ are Lords of War

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Well holy fuck a beat up package arrived today. Anyone know what that means?

>>55045210
It's dildos. Chinacast dildos.

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>>55045210
Whats in the box!.

>>55045095
I know. It's so strategic watching your opponent's list play itself because your opponent is not allowed to choose targets.

Oh, and Draigo has a 2++ reroll invul with CP because why the fuck not?

>>55045210
Man they treated that box pretty bad. When GW sends stuff to me they usually are in mint condition.

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>>55044978

I haven't yet, but I'll put mine in my list next week and give it a try.

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>>55045227
Very close

>>55045247
It went though customs... That's a hint

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>>55044252
Go ah raiding aspiring Archon! You get the best looking range and all of them look well being interchanged for the most part! You can be a nameless grunt of the imperium or carve your own Kabals name into the galaxies memory with a knife made of a permanently screaming fetus!

>>55045264
>Space Aelves

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>>55045320
Keen eye. First thing is some Corsair heavy weapons pack for a possible autarch conversation.

>>55044555
>No one likes guard anymore
Curse of the WAAC

>>55045259
Awesome! Lemme know how it does, I'll be getting mine in the next couple months

Correct me if Im wrong but a GSC Neophyte Hybrid squad could be armed with two special weapons and two heavy weapons regardless of its size, right? It says up to two Neophytes may take Special weapons and then another bullet point says the same but for Heavy weapons (Or make up a heavy weapons team).

>>55045247
Every Forgeworld box I've ever gotten has been thrashed.

>>55045338
>curse of the WAAC
That's why I made a vow to always play fully painted from now on to avoid being accused of being a bandwagon player
It's weird seeing people play guard to win, not just for "muh space military wank" like it used to be when we sucked ass outside of the artilary company

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>>55045337
Next up is a scorpion type 2. This thing is massive. Farsrer any my mymeara wave serpant for size comparison

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Has chaos been emboldened by the single victory on the last planet? I've never even almost seen them with such a lead so far. Even this early in the week.

Alight /tg/ which forge world version of thenoek trukk sows eveeyone like better? The enclosed cab or halftrack? The plain trukk just looks a bit to goofy for my taste but the forgeworld version are spot on.

>>55045386
>fudging the numbers

>>55045338
>No one likes guard anymore
>anymore
I have never liked guard players

>>55045377
>Farsrer any my mymeara
Mind melted by cancer resin already
Shame!

Anyone else use feel like they are using Warhammer as a stress release/escapism? No matter what shit happens in the day you can always come home and paint a few dudes and chat about 40k to your bros on tg.

>>55045377
>flash city
They look like good molds though, I've heard horror stories of forge world, always wondered how common it is

>>55045406
Too much salt is harmful. Take it easy

>>55045412
Oh fuck yeah

>>55045376
It really is funny. I always played ministorum and guard but now people groan as I decimate them in shooting and melee. I've been gimping myself so people play me. Which has been nice too because I bring silly and fun units and still do fine.