Warhammer 40000 general /40kg/

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>>55034697
For the Emperor's Finest Lawn

i choose this one

>>55034697
What would the various faction's lawns look like?

>>55034667
>>55034667
>>55034667
>>55034667

This one was first

>No one makes generals till the old ones dead at which point like 3 pop up simultaneously

Leman Russ is a furry.

>>55034726
Fuck it
This one is canon now

>>55034726
this one i choose this one

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What would be a good head-swap for this fella?

>>55034735

Wulfgirls of the warp

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>>55034735
Take the knot brother!

>>55034726
Hate inducing harassment? No thanks.

>>55034719
We know what Nurgle's would look like. Vibrant with life.

>>55034697
>chaos ever being a serious threat
HAHAHA chaos cucks btfo

but... WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MORTARION MINI??
>months of new ed
>no deathshroud
>no typhus
>No Mortarion

Reposting feom a few threads back. People were too busy "discussing" thr number of marine codexes to answer.

How is this list for a complete beginner? 500 pt

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [26 PL, 499pts] ++

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, 101pts]: Jump Pack, Master-crafted boltgun, Power axe, The Crusader's Helm

+ Troops +

Crusader Squad [5 PL, 118pts]
. 2x Initiate
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sword Brother: Combi-plasma

+ Elites +

Dreadnought [7 PL, 148pts]: Assault cannon
. Dreadnought combat weapon w/Heavy Flamer: Heavy flamer

Vanguard Veteran Squad [8 PL, 132pts]: Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Veteran Sergeant: 2x Lightning Claw

++ Total: [26 PL, 499pts] ++


The captain and vets stay near the others (captain provides wide buffs with the BT helm) until something is close to strike.

The dread takes care of weak big group units and punches tough guys.

The crusaders plink and take care of objectives.

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+++BATTLE REPORT INCOMING+++

Shame Breacher FWs are always so unloved and weak.
That troop basic gun with a profile of S6 AP-2 is pretty sick

>>55034758
Isn't he the big fucking fairy right in the middle of the new DG picture?

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Found an old picture of a very badly ending apocalypse game I had.

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Share conversions you found recently.

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>>55034762

+++Armageddon 27th Iron Horses+++
Pictured is my list. After last week’s game, which illustrated to me how stupidly powerful IG can be this edition, I decided to retire that list and try something more like the exact opposite of the usual conscipts/scion combo with russ support.

I went with:

>6x infantry teams
>3x Salamander scout vehicles
>1x Ogryn unit of 4
>9x mortar teams, 1x lascannon team
>Yarrick, priest, Straken, Nork, commissar, 2x captains
>1 of each assassin and an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor
>A chimera for just about everything

My goal here was a melee-centric list that uses Yarrick’s reroll 1s ability, Straken’s +1 attack, the priest’s +1 attack, and the Fix Bayonets! order to get 5 attacks in melee per turn per guardsmen. Instead of sitting back and shooting, I would run right into the enemy’s face and pummel him with a hurricane of tiny fists.

>>55034758

They are waiting for the end of Konor were Chaos loses

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>>55034782

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>>55034788
One more after this

>>55034784
Keep going friend!

>>55034785
But there's 3 hours of this week's mission left and Chaos has a pretty sizable lead. Barring some last minute shenanigans, it looks like Chaos is finally on the board.

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>>55034784

+++Tyranid Hive Fleet+++

Here is the Tyranid list. I don’t know much about their codex, but I know he took:

>a big unit of Carnifex including Old One Eye
>another sizable units of Zoanthropes
>some biovores
>a big clump of genestealers and cultists
>2 swarms of shooty gaunts
>shooty warriors
>some huge warlord that conferred FNP and respawned gaunts

Those Carnifex in particular would turn out to be a huge problem.

With Deathwatch, is it better to kit a team out with different weapons, or all the same weapons? And what are good options to take?

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>>55034794
>>55034788

These make me want to have a Brotherhood of Nod squad allied to my Alpha Legion

>>55034788
>>55034794

Fuck me this is magnificent. RIP Brotherhood and CNC as a whole.

>>55034767
Yes, but they still haven't shown a release date for him

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>>55034799

+++Mission+++

The rolled mission was relic, the rolled deployment was Dawn of War (I think – the 12” from table edge one). Tyranids finished deployment first and got +1, which gave them the first turn.

I threw quite a bit of terrain on the table for this one since /tg/ feedback last game was not enough terrain. My army was definitely shootier than his, so if anything I thought it would give the bugs a marginal advantage. I did not randomly scatter the terrain and kept it balanced instead.

>>55034759
Black templar tactics

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>>55034818

+++Deployment+++

As before, I put the Salamanders on the flanks with the intent to get deployment zone points and maybe harass biovores. The nucleus of my army was the bunch of characters and the 60 infantry + Ogryns, which I intended to just throw right at him and see what happened. They all went packed into the center ready to swarm the relic. Mortars and lascannons went in the backfield with the vindicare, the Culexus tailed a vehicle in the center and the Callidus and Eversor went into reserve.

I forgot to roll to seize initiative. Because I am retarded.

>>55034785
>Hey guys lets have a campaign where painting gives you points
>But don't release the new models for one side until its almost over
>Oh and the more numerous side gets points for playing against itself

THANKS GEEDUBS

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+++Turn 1+++

The bugs advanced in the center with almost everything, getting to within 3” of the relic. Biovores, warriors, and Zoanthropes all nuked the lascannon team right off the bat and killed all of them. A few shots were fired at the mortars, too, but only resulted in a spore mine drifting menacingly close to them.

On my turn, the Salamanders zoomed up the flanks while every single chimera emptied its passengers. 60 guardsmen and 4 Ogryns, stirred to righteous frenzy by the Ministorum priest, Yarrick’s speech over the internal vox, and Straken’s gung ho battlecry all moved right up to the insectoid menace. My lines ended up about 6-8 inches away, so I decided to direct all my shooting at the carnifexes, his warlord, and the zoanthropes lest he pick off lots of gaunt casualties to prevent the charge I wanted to get. The Vindicare landed 3 wounds on the warlord, the Eversor popped up behind the warriors, and the Zoanthropes were surprised to learn that one of them had been a Callidus all along.

The Eversor rolled well on his charge, but the warriors did better with 2 6s on overwatch that inflicted 9 wounds on the assassin. He went down like a bitch before doing anything at all. The Callidus had a bit more luck and inflicted 2 wounds on a Zoanthrope with her phase blade, conveniently ignoring their 3+ invul saves. The Culexus fared best of all and, charged by so many psykers around him, drilled 5 wounds onto Old One Eye with his animus speculum.

All the infantry made it into charge, eating about 10 casualties from 30+ overwatch shots per gaunt unit but shrugging off the losses and ramming in with 3 attack a piece. By the end of the bayonet charge I had killed maybe 20 gaunts, and the Ogryn had put 3 wounds on a carnifex.

>>55034855
I like this format. I will be stealing it. Also nice report so far.

>>55034832
Do you people hate terrain?

>>55034758
>Release a bunch of new Marines
>start campaign that rewards buying and painting
>space Marine Codex hits week 1
>generic CSM Codex hits week 3
>along side another space Marine Codex
>end of week 4
>CSM have literally 0 new models
>space Marines have tons
>GW is surprised the campaign isn't more balanced

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Is Mono Nurgle Daemons only relevant with FW models? And where are certain models in Battlescribe (Scabeiathrax, specifically)?

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>>55034855

+++Turn 2+++

The nids reeled from the unexpected charge of human fleshbags, withdrawing with the gaunts and Zoanthropes. Purestrain genestealers outflanked with cultists in tow and charged in on a mortar team, while the warlord bug advanced to tie up the guard infantry and cover the diminished gaunt swarms (really the casualties ended up about 50/50 at this point for the gaunt/guard melee).

Nid shooting was light since most units were falling back or in combat, but the zoanthropes nearly smote the Callidus to death, her life spared by 4 simultaneous 4+ invul saves.

The infantry took more losses, but even with morale losses kept the bugs tied up across the entire front. Old One Eye kills 3 Ogryn in a single round of combat.

1/2

3 hours left for Konor round 4. Imperium is losing on all fronts.

Here is the consequences of losing :

>At the Konorian Relay itself, Chaos forces defend their tortured wards with savage determination, unleashing blistering cascades of gunfire and artillery upon those who look to breach the basilica walls. If the Imperials cannot break through this formidable barrier, the agony of the tortured astropaths will only flare brighter, drowning Vanitor in the surging tides of the warp. Surely the damnation of the entire Konor System will swiftly follow.

Can the Imperium pull a comeback?

>>55034726
HERETIC

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Does anyone recognize the spikey piece of the icon? I want to know if the candles are custom made but the owner's blog was effected by the recent photobucket changes.

If so, what are some good ways to make small candles?

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>>55034873

IG is up. Those infantry squads locked in combat pull out, and those out line up into orderly ranks. Get Back in the Fight! And First Rank Fire, Second Rank Fire! Orders cover the field and lasgun volleys chew up the already-depleted bug ranks and tack a few wounds on the monsters. The Culexus again takes 3 wounds on the enemy warlord, though his psykout grenade completely fails to wound. The Vindicare knock a few wounds off, too, and the Ordo Xenos Inquisitor dominates Old One Eye and tries to force him to use crushing claws on the carnifex next to him. All four attack miss. Finally, all the chimeras hear the mortar team getting torn apart behind them, turn around, and light up that terrain piece with heavy flamers, multilasers, and heavy stubbers, dropping all the genestealers but 1 and the broodlord.

The entire Imperial line charges back into melee. Straken compeltely fails to wound the warlord, and Yarrick fails to wound Old One Eye. Nork does headbutt the warlord for 3 wounds, though, yet it is not enough to fell the beast. As an afterthought I throw the attacks of my last 12 guardsmen at the thing and they take the last wound down, killing it with monoknife bayonets. victory is fleeting, though, as old One Eye gets his vengeance and lands 9 wounds on Yarrick, whose refractor field stops all but 2 of them. He fails one of his 3+ get back up rolls, which I spend a command point to reroll and he still fails it. Fuck.

2/2

>>55034871
>is mono x daemons only relevant with FW models?
FTFY and yes

>>55034883
top of a lord relictor staff from sigmar

>>55034868
It looks very likely Chaos will win week 4 though.

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>>55034886

+++Aftermath+++

At this point the store is about to close, so we call it a draw. While it’s clear the battle will swing my way when one of my many character picks up the relic and just runs away with it, all my infantry and vehicles blocking for him, at this stage of the game both warlords are dead and both deployment zones are violated. We shake hands and promise to start the next game earlier should we ever play again (2 turns took almost 3 hours).

I was disappointed with the Callidus and Eversor assassins, and the Ogryn definitely didn’t do well against the carnifexes, especially Old One Eye. It seems like I should have used FRFSRF on the bugs during turn 1 instead of charging with all my infantry, which did almost as much damage to me as to him. Then again, it did invalidate many of his units, which all fell back or were locked the following turn. Altogether it was a fun gimmick to try, but I’m not convinced it’s better than just shooting those lasrifles instead.

Straken’s buff was good, but he himself didn’t do anything at all, even with his anti-monster ability. Yarrick likewise did nothing at all – really the only characters that pulled their weight were the vindicare, culexus, and Nork, who did more damage than all the officers combined just by slamming his face into the biggest bug on the table.
Fun game, but I’m hoping to actually get a full 6 turns in sometime in the future.

A couple more pics inbound.

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>>55034921

Based off how GW tried to get Tau players to support Chaos, if Chaos wins we know what xenos will probably be in that article.
I'm kind of excited for it, I wonder what they'll pass it off as since Tau can't be everywhere like Eldar/Orks.
4th sphere shenanigans?

>>55034909
>two turns took 3 hours
Jesus, how many points were you playing?

I don't think I've had a game that's taken more than 3 hours to complete in full

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>>55034909
>>55034921
>>55034928

I approve of your effort. I love your army, well painted. Thanks for the report.

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>>55034905
Awesome, thanks!

>>55034871
Is Khorne wearing high heels ?

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>>55034941
It's right in the batrep, dude. 2000 points.

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>>55034944
Murder Heels.

>>55034933
its clear they just wrote one victory each for chaos/imperium for each planet and just auto-roll out the winning sides victory at the end of the week's campaign

>>55034942

Thanks, friend. I intend to do one or two of these per week, depending on how often I get to the store. I usually repost them on Friday or Saturday night, as well.

>>55034784
Can you post a bigger image of the Command Squad or the commander? need some conversion ideas

>>55034958
Must be blind, not seeing it.

In any case, nice battle report dude

>>55034974
Except Eldar would never be supported Chaos, so GW does have sides in mind

>>55034977
I lost my car to a wreck weeks ago. So I have not been able to fight for the Emperor during Konor beyond losing my only game I got in thanks to the Mechanicus ally believing in the wrong God.

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Well here's the first dreadknight I've ever made, got it for a GMDK.

You would think with so many fucking parts it would have at least some basic leg articulation but no, of course not.

Still with a bit of a torso twist and arm positioning he at least looks a bit dynamic, which is better than the action figure pose on the box.

Leaving off the chest harness really solved the baby carrier issue for me, now he just looks like he has a big belt.

I'm debating whether I want him to have a banner (as seen attached with the Mk2 finger&thumb combo). He's my only dreadknight so it's not like he has to stand out but on the other hand a grandmaster should be ostentatious

guest starring my repulsor

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>>55034984
Eldar would support Khorne, Nurgle, or Tzeentch in an effort to undermine Slaanesh. Play your enemy against your enemy. Somehow in some sort of forseen event, causing the Warp's attention to fall upon Ultramar and win? That might save Eldar lives in the future... who cares if some Mon'Keigh get killed by your mortal enemy because of it?

>>55034933
>Planet 1 Eldar helping Imperials.
>Planet 2 Ork Waaagh! attacking both sides
>Planet 3 No xenos mentioned but introduction of the planet mentioned xenos mercs with Chaos

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>>55034944
Probably. Khorne is a fan of KISS and Ascend: Hand of Kul.

>>55035026

pretty sure Week 3 was deldar?

>>55034832
Why are all the biggest scenery pieces in your deployment zones again?

Scenery needs to be between your armies to do anything useful

What do you think of each brand of Chaos players in general, whether this be legion wise, god wise, etc?

>>55034768

>Apoc game on urban table with zombies

This game looks like it was thematic as fuck.

>>55035048
Slan and NL players are the worst
The rest are palatable

>>55034941
People always say their games go quickly, but I've have the opposite happen all throughout my store. They're all long as shit with only a few exceptions.

>>55035017
Maybe before, now they seem to be as close to allies as grimdark allies can be

>>55035004
Knees can be bent in pre-assembly by slicing the joint.

>>55035069
>NL
Forever ruined because we had at one point 3 dedicated shitposters.

>>55035036
Yeah, you are right.

>Drukhari Reavers had also been sighted, racing across the vast open plains in their agile skycraft. These sadistic killers revelled in the terror and confusion of the conflict, appearing from nowhere like creatures from some terrible nightmare, snatching unfortunate souls away to serve as slaves and tormented playthings.

>>55035048
>Slaanesh
awkward spergs or pretty alt people

>tzeentch
cool dudes and quiet hipsters

>khorne
middle-aged dadrock fans or edgelords

>nurgle
i play nurgle

So, I bought the following on a whim (had some trade credit with the store, and they don't let you keep it past a couple days), and would like to know what else would be good to build an army with it:

>2 squads Chaos Terminator
>Chaos Terminator Lord
>1 squad Rubric Marines

>>55034980

Give me a few minutes, they are in my car.

>>55035110
>dadrock

You mean best rock.

>>55034726
You put the thread title in the name field, so it doesn't show up when browsing through or searching.
I'm not posting in a thread started by a retard.

>>55034784
>infantry squads
>ogryns
>assassins
>not a single scion

Aww yiss. I have a far better opinion of you now.

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>>55034980

None of the models in the command squad I used in this game are conversions, just vanilla models painted the same color scheme.

>>55035236
Yeah just noticed you used 2 Krieg models, though thanks for the photo and really nice miniatures. Gonna add them to my collection of actually painted armies from Guardfags

>>55035236
Coteaz has the best looking power armour in the game.

Kinda want mine back.

>>55035111
Chaos Predators and Havocs are never a bad choice.

>>55035275
Don't like the design of the Predator, but Havocs look nice. Which Legion Tactics should I use?

>>55035285
Alpha legion, that -1 to hit at >12" synergizes with heavy weapons very well

Iron Hands in a storm eagle
thinking 10 sternguard, a captain, 2 squads of honour guard, lieutenant and something else to fill er up
yes/no?

>>55035290
Alright. Would Helbrutes be a nice anti-vehicle heavy weapons platform? I really like the model design, and I've heard mixed things about them.

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>>55034782

>>55035236
Maybe I'm wrong, but you have a thrid-party lady commissar model yes?

>>55035302
Meh. They can't get the Pred's quadlas, and their "shoot twice" only helps against the closest model, which... can put them in shifty situations. Maybe check out FW Chaos dreads.

>>55035308
I am seconding this question because i remembered the same thing and was actually about to ask

>>55035302
pretty cheap and not bad with lascannons and missiles. bring two.

>>55035302
They can be a decent backline artillery piece if that's your thing. I'd still recommend a Predator though, quad-las is a godsend against some of the armies I've faced and I've yet to find a situation where it's useless.

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>How many colours did you use for the blade?

Black, grey, white, and green.

I primed the whole model black, then drybrushed grey and white to make all the recesses and raised areas transition from dark to light, respectively.
Used thinning medium for the nase colors to let the pre-baked lighting show throw.
So, for the blade it's just thinned out green on top of black to white drybrush transition. Hit the edges of the sword with another white drybrush to make it pop.

>>55035319
The Chaos Dreadnoughts look gorgeous, but are pretty expensive moneywise. I've been tempted to pick up the Alpha Legion or Black Legion frame, though.

>>55035322
Alright. So, beyond what I already have, if I get 2 Helbrutes, what else would I need for a solid list?

>>55035349
Could always just Chaos up some loyal dreads.

A big heavy-hitter unit would be good for you. Magnus is probably the strongest choice. There's also Fateweaver, Chaos Knights, various daemon princes and Greater Daemons, etc.

>>55035349
If you're going for Black Legion, get Abaddon. He's really the only point of them besides the decent color scheme.

>>55035357
Do this. One of the perks with chaos is the limitless conversion potential

>>55035346
Hmm, I would have mixed some green and white to make about three different greens and dry brushed them on to create a random distribution of colour, then dry brushed with white, followed by a green wash.

Though it depends on the look you're going for.

>>55035357
>Could always just Chaos up some loyal dreads.
Does that work? Like, would people accept that? I like the idea. Daemon Princes are nice looking, too.

>>55035370
Based on another anon's suggestion, I'm going to use Alpha tactics over Black Legion.

http://www.trademe
.co.nz/gaming/war-games/warhammer-40000/auction-1401408035.htm

Should I buy these Chad-Chaos Marines? Chadaos?

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>>55035308
>>55035320

Yes, though one still isn't finished. I'm not sure what color to paint her pants and corset thing.

>>55035385
>Does that work? Like, would people accept that?
Almost anyone so long as you're using appropriate weapons. For legions like the AL, IW, and TS regular dreads are far more thematically appropriate than Helbrutes.

>>55035385
>Does that work? Like, would people accept that?

Yeah dude. Only fags hate conversions.

Don't just paint, though. I mean, that kinda works for Alpha Legion, but half the fun is conversions (and it makes it easy for your oppoenents to ID).

>>55035402
>>55035401
So, would I treat it as the FW Chaos Dreadnought, or as a Helbrute?

>>55035396

gas mask one looks fucken great mate

>>55035396

>your dark heresy party.jpg

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>>55035387
Nice prices. Do they ship top-side?

>>55035417
Helbrute

>>55035417
Depends. If it's super chaos'd, tentacles and shit, Helbrute. If it's closer to normal, FW. All depends what you wanna do.

>>55035440
i believe these are individual people selling things not a store.

>>55035417
original anon >>55035319 I assume is saying to use them as Chaos dreads, FW has rules for them somewhere but I forget where. Might be in a FAQ

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>>55035308

I forgot, I've also got the dual powerfist one, though I'm not pleased with how she turned out. She's got this breastplate carapace armor thing, but the way I painted it you can hardly tell what it is and it just came out messy. I've been at this hobby a long time but never truly mastered painting...the finer parts of the art still elude me.

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>>55035053
Veterans ended up melta gunning the baneblade. It went critical. They died. This was like 5th.

>>55035472
I don't think there are rules for chaos boxnaughts anymore

>>55035495
>template
Are you guys play with 7e rules or something?

>>55035510
>This was like 5th

I assume he meant 5th edition.

>>55035510
>missing the entire point of saying it was like 5th, maybe 6th

We know what units will be in Death Guard book ?

Mortarion
Typhus
Tallyman
Plague Marines
Pox Walkers
Plague Drones
Plague Flies
Plague Bearers
Nurglings

What more - new GUO ?

>>55035510
read the fucking post dude

>>55035497
Wow yeah you're right, the FAQ says to just use the Hellbrute block. There's changes if it's supposed to be a Sonic Dreadnaught but that's the only thing.

>>55034909
I prefer your guys over that one faggot with red all over his shit who always shits up the thread
fuck that guy

>>55034845
You make it sound like GW are not going to ignore the result and write up Chaos winning in general. You know, like every other online campaign.

>>55034739
Hellbrute or defiler head anon

>>55035533

you're him, aren't you?

>>55035125
>I-IV-V on permanent loop
>"best rock"
/r/music is the other way buddy

How do nurgle daemons deal with massed tanks of the IG?

>>55035481
You're doing the Emperor's work Armageddon anon, I'm sorry I doubted you.

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>>55035547
I am Alpharius

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>>55034810
F

Literally my entire childhood. I still remember getting CNC 4 for christmas one year, and asking my dad to take it back to the store two days later....

>>55034739
Imperial Knight faceplate. You can pick them up cheap, too.

DG get an apothecary unit too

>>55035454
>>55035463
>>55035472
So, I have miliput and blue stuff. Is there anything else I should get for conversion work?

>>55035554
They don't.

>>55035519
Don't know if Daemons will be included but it will also have Terminators, Deathshroud, Noxious Blightbringer, Malignant Plaguecaster, Lord of Contagion, and possibly some sort of apothecary.

>>55035549
Enlighten us with your superior music tastes.

inb4 Tool

>>55035554
daemons with no allies in 8th edition are liable to just blatantly lose to some armies
most likely hopefully it'll get better when the codex drops next year

>>55035589
Bits. You'll probably have extra once you build all the other chaos boxes though.

>>55035597
Tool is glorified nu-dadrock for wannabe prog rock children. I have no obligation to reveal what I listen to anyone in this thread or anywhere else.

>>55034883
You make candles by cutting wire to the height of the candle plus a little bit for the wick. Build a cylinder of green stuff around the candle wick. Add "drops" and "streaks" of gs to get that stubbly wax effect.

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>>55035632
I anticipated an autistic response but this next level.

>>55035639
t. dadrocking plebbitor
Go back my man, this site is 18+

>>55035632
Music is like beer. Partake in what makes you happy.

>>55034719
Ork lawns would be every hillbilly or trailer trash lawn cranked up to eleven.
>broken split rail fences on the border
>grass is literally never mowed, there's only a path where they walk the most that's just been treaded down over the years
>wrecked vehicles and machines everywhere, some might still be on fire, and most of them were definitely stolen
>fire pit in the back behind the house so the cops can't see them burning garbage in it when they drive by
>barn cats eke out a living on table scraps and mice while avoiding the dog that's permanently chained out by the door

>>55035663
But don't bitch if anyone shits on your garbage taste, is what you forgot to add.

>>55035650
Nigga my cat is older than you.

>>55035125
>>55035632
You would both be Khorne players.

I'm trying to make a fluffy IW's list and was wondering how many marines I should actually include in the list.

How would you run them?

>>55035690
Whatever number you want. IW aren't opposed to using normal marines, but aren't known for using huge numbers either.

>>55035686
I'd hardly call your parent's cat "your cat", but whatever.

>>55035672
Taste is subjective.

Some people like Bud Light just like some people like Bieber. They're popular for a reason. Not sure why, but they are.

>>55035621
Alright. Should I go with the basic Dreadnought, or would something like the Furioso work better?

>>55035708
Taste may be subjective but my right to shit on you over it isn't.
And people like those things because people are retarded. Remember, 1/2 of the people that exist today are technically considered stupid by the definition of the term.

>>55034719
Sisters wax for the emperor

>>55034739
wobbly arm inflatable tube man

>>55035705
Hot dis, but I'm not the babby who won't post his music preferences because he's afraid the other nerds will laugh at him.

>>55035712
If you want to run a dual-ccw dread, Furioso or Ironclad. Furioso in particular has those wicked claws.

For a shooty dread use the standard one.

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>>55035549
>>55035597
>>55035632
>>55035639
>>55035650
>>55035686
>>55035705
>>55035734

This is the saddest thing I've seen since Harambe got shot.

>>55035734
But anon, I'm not posting it because it has no relevance to the topic at hand, that is, dadrock. My taste certainly does not consist of any dadrock so I fail to see how it's relevant, unless you're more interested at shitflinging over taste.

>>55035690
One warpsmith and 4 vindicators in a spearhead detachment.

>>55035745
>Starts calling music tastes shit
>"Y-you're just starting sh-shit"

fucking babies, man

>>55035597
In The Aeroplane Over The Sea - NMH

>>55035745
Lemme guess, it's something KMFDM or ASIWYFA

Do Instruments and Daemonic Icons stack on daemon squads if you take multiple in a large squad? If so, is it worth taking more than just one of each?

>>55035766
Said the child going ABLOO BLOO BLOO because the mean internet man said his music taste sucks.
>>55035769
HAHAHA no. Had to search up that second acronym but fuck me those bands are shit. Metalcore is a blight to humanity.

>>55035780
Oh wait, ASIWYFA is that shitty hipster math rock band lol. Nah, not into that kind of effeminate garbage.

>>55035736
With my high number of Terminators, a shooty Helbrute/Dread would be best, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VZxNxKVfcI

>>55035776
Taken from 1d4chan

>Banners: One odd quirk about all the Troop choices is that you're given the option to take 1 Instrument and 1 Banner per 10 models in the unit. However, your unit can only benefit from one of each of them. What's the point of this, you may ask? Summoning rolls and reinforcement points in matched, that's why. You see, you still have to spend the points on the models, but nothing says you have to decide what models are in each unit. This means you can have a 30 model unit ready just in case you roll that 15 for summoning, but can bring them in one 10-man unit at a time if you only get a few 5+ rolls and they can all still have those extra goodies to help them out. Food for thought.

>>55035780
Heh, I'm actually the second guy you replied to. Someone else thinks you're a fag too.

>>55035565
Man that awful perspective annoys the fuck outta me.

>1 hour left
>we're going to lose the fourth planet by like 1%
Nooooooo! Come on, guys, we can't let things be "lol Chaos wins in the end"!

>>55035812
As a Tzeentch daemons player all I can say is I've been losing my hardest. This is on Imperials if they lose it they literally have everything stacked in their favour.

>>55035806
As I said, 50% of the population etc etc. This thread has what, 59 unique IPs? Assuming that this board follows the standard distribution (according to a 4chan wide IQ test it's actually lower) and that each IP belongs to an individual person there are about 29.5 idiots in this thread. Would the other 27.5 like to stand up please?

>>55035812
There might be a bunch of last minute report ins but at this point it's probably safe to call it in favor of Chaos. But the Imperium won pretty solidly for the first three weeks so Chaos finally getting a win isn't that bad.

It is funny though seeing how the EU area went from like 60% Imperium last week to 60% Chaos this week. Even NA has swung over to Chaos a bit at least once this week.

>>55035812
loosing because of europe of all places

>>55035834
I blame the mudslimes

>>55035834
I blame the Xenos.

>>55035837
>>55035842
What's the difference?

>>55034765
Hopefully FSE has some rules to buff them, I wouldn't be surprised as they focus on CQC

>>55034762
Commisar, we detected a termagant swarm approaching. Recommended course of action, sir?

>>55035851
There is none.

>>55035825
What an insufferable cunt lmao.

You can't just say what you like, you gotta act all self righteous.

>>55034765
Put them in a Devilfish, with Darkstrider riding along. They can wreck face. Can use the Devilfish to tie up units in assault, forcing them to waste their attacks on punching a tank to death.

>>55035805
Hmm, alright. Guess I'll have to put a bit more thought into my planning, really want to figure something out for how I'll run my horrors and all.

>>55035865
I'm not allowed to act holier than thou to piss 50% of the human population off? That's sad because this shit never fails to entertain.

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>>55035825
I'm a new idiot. You may genuinely want to get tested for asbergers I'm not trying to meme with this but I am laughing.

>>55035881
Yes, that's why I said 27.5, not 28.5. Retard doesn't know how to do maths eh?

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>>55035812
>Have every advantage in the world stacked in your favor
>Lose
Jesus Christ, loyalists, get your fucking shit together.

>>55035874
You overestimate yourself.

Anyone giving that obvious bait (you)'s is in the lower 50%. If it actually bothered you ignoring it makes it go away.

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General courtesy question:

At what point value is it acceptable to run a lord of war?

I can understand in 1000 point lists being that-guy, but. ..

1500 point lists? Surely 2000 is fine.

>Guilliman up to 400pts
>Magnus up to 500pts
>Celestine up to 275pts

Y/N?

>>55035900
But it's entertaining right now isn't it? I'm starting to feel like you're more somewhere around the bottom 30-40% of the population.

>>55035914
2000 bring whatever you want. 1500 if you warn the guy first.

What's a good number of objectives to play at 500 points? I just played a game at 500 as Deathwatch and I just didn't feel like I could physically get my guys around fast enough to contest 3 objectives.

>>55035914
1000 = narrative only
1500 = give them a heads up
2000 = expected

>>55035916
Eh, just up Guilliman to 10 wounds and I think he's fine. Magnus probably just needs to lose access to the Hereticus discipline so he can't warptime or death hex, which is very likely to happen in the TS codex,

>>55034855
Don't units have to disembark before the transport moves? In your pics the guardsmen disembarked after the transport moved.

Im a complete beginner. Did I miss something?

>>55035780
Seeing as -core's essence is "remove everything enjoyable so only "true fans" will remain".

>>55035959
Nope, that's how it works.

>>55035924
stop playing at 500pts

>I unironically like the old broadside model

>>55035914
>At what point value is it acceptable to run a lord of war?
at any point value that you can afford

>>55035959
You are right anon, you have to disembark before the transport moves but can be up to 3" away from the transport when it disembarks so can have up to a 9" move.

There are a couple of exceptions based on special rules like the IG's own Valkyrie flyer, but in this example it's flat out cheating.

Will thousand sons get their range of cult disciplines?

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>>55035975
From DoW? I like this too

>>55035984
Unlikely.

>>55035914
>Not bringing 2 wraithknights in a 1,000pt friendly

In this world
there are winners
and there are losers

What's better 2 units of 6 RW Black knights or 4 Units of 3?

>>55035991
And people that can only get games vs complete strangers.

Are there any novels from the perspective of the Death Guard?

I want to put myself in the frame of mind, but I can't really find much

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1998 points of IW's. What do you think?

>Spearhead Detachment
-Lord in Terminator Armour - Combi-plasma, Powerfist - 132
-Chaos Terminators x5 - Combi-plasma x5, Power Axe x4, Powerfist - 262
-Havocs x5 - Heavy bolters x4 - 105
-Havocs x5 - Lascannons x4 - 165
-Obliterators x3 - 195

>Spearhead Detachment
-Daemon Prince w/ Wings - Daemonic axe, Malefic talon, Fleshmetal exoskeleton, Nurgle, Diabolic strength - 180
-Helbrute - Helbrute fist, Power scourge - 155
-Helbrute - Missile Launcher - Twin lascannon - 147
-Chaos Predator - Twin lascannon, 2x Lascannons, Combi-bolter - 192
-Chaos Predator - Predator autocannon, 2x Heavy bolters, Combi-bolter - 161
-Maulerfiend - Lasher tendrils, Maulerfiend fists - 152
-Maulerfiend - Lasher tendrils, Maulerfiend fists - 152

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>>55035954

>>55035984
Go read the grey knights codex for an example of what you'll get anon. Warlord traits, relics, some more powers and stratagems. Anything else and I'd be truly surprised.

>>55036005
No point taking large units unless you're trying to get alpha strike or are low on FA slots. It just makes your more susceptible to morale. Unless you're taking an apothecary, in that case it might work.

>>55035954
>so he can't warptime or death hex, which is very likely to happen in the TS codex,
Kek no its not dumbass.

>>55036011
> -Daemon Prince w/ Wings - Daemonic axe
I dont get it. Why anybody ever think about taking not 2 talons?

>>55035919
You sound like a yugioh villain.

>>55035985
Never really played DoW but I got an older one as part of a bundle and I'm in love. I still like the newer one but those dual shoulder rails are pure SEX

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>>55035936
>>55035921
>>55035976
>>55035991

Thanks for the heads up.
I really like bringing scabby into the fray. How viable do you think sperging out full "hero-hammer" with a list skeleton like:

Scabbithrax the bloated
Corbax utterblight
Plague hulk
A few heralds of nurgle
Daemon prince w/ wings


All pyskers take the fleshy abundance (d3 heal) ability.
The games I've played with this setup always ends up the same. Opponent focus fires everything into corbax or scabby, doesn't kill it, then I heal it back up to close to full health. Meanwhile, I'm ripping units in half at point blank range and the enemy gets weaker and weaker. Am I doing something right?

>>55036027
Because they're all 10pts now and the talons only net at most 4 damage

>>55036027
Seems more Iron Warrior-y to smash people with a huge axe.

>>55036026
Why the fuck wouldn't the sorcerer legion get their own powers?

Every space marine chapter already gets their own, so it's all but confirmed that TS will

>>55036005
always go with lower unless you plan on buffing them or you need the slots

>>55036028
yes, exactly what did you think "holier than thou" meant?

>>55036019
>Magnus will get even better

It's not like he's already auto-include Chaos LoW or anything.

>>55036038
>Why the fuck wouldn't the sorcerer legion get their own powers?
Thats not what I said dumbass. I just rejected your retarded assertion that TSons will lose access to the hereticus discipline.

>>55036056
Yeah, they will
Just like how every other faction psychic table replaces the basic one?

>>55035916

Remove Guilliman's CP gain. He gives you 6 CP (because you save 3 from not buying a CM). Hell, make him COST CP too.

>>55036066
>Yeah, they will
No they wont.

Would it be fluffy to take a Daemon Prince with Alpha Legion? If so, which god should it be a Prince of?

>>55036075
Probably Tzeentch for the deceit/deception.

>>55036074
Good hustle boys
Nice chat

>>55036017
>Guilliman is lost in the crowd

>>55035597
Impaled Nazarene

Anyone else find the character rules kind of stupid? How hard is it to spot the extra flashy suit of power armor with a massive banner on its back?

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>can hardly wait for an order of minis to arrive so that I could get to work on them
fuck, I'm never this inspired

>>55036097
What if the whole chapter is blinged up?

>>55036085
Yeah I can barely pick out this 10 foot tall man wielding a flaming sword

>>55036097
hard enough that they can't be targetted by ranged weapons unless they are the closest target

>>55036079
I thought so too, just wanted to make sure someone else had a similar thought. What kind of modifications should I make to make it Tzeentchier?

>>55036103
>celestial lions
ay yo we blingz n shieeet
>>55036097
because 40k is about realism

>>55036102
I always feel the urge to paint when I'm at work but by the time I have time I've lost that urge. Then I feel it again the next night.

It's a vicious cycle.

>>55036097
They make sense for smaller characters but when you have situations like >>55036017 where you've got primarchs and daemon princes hiding behind guardsmen/cultists it gets really silly.

But then again if you remove it you have the problem greater daemons are having in that they just get deleted by d6 damage weapons turn 1.

Would you guys have weird rules like characters and flamer vs flyers, or would you rather go back to 7E?

>>55036103
What kind of chapter does that anyway? Ghetto Marines?
>>55036109
I think more units should have sniper type rules. And bring back attaching characters to units.

>>55036087
See now that's proper bait.

>>55036118
I vastly prefer 8th teebeehee

>>55036118
Abstracted rules 24/7

Moment 40k tries to be nitty gritty, it's just inviting fuck-ups.

>>55036131
>>55036132
Do you guys think there's a way to keep 8E's streamlining but without weird rules?

>>55036118
Take it back to 5th edition rules, but improved, not bloated to all hell like they did with 6th and 7th.
8th is good, but seems a little shallow compared to previous editions at times.

>>55036124
Blinged-up Hood marines. ..

Could you imagine? Chains on every battle-brother.

>>55036117
With GDs I think the solution is to make them tougher. But even as a player who brings a shit ton of characters I find it a bit ridiculous how I can't target a chaos lord because one of his guys happens to be 1/2 inch closer.

>>55036097
>tfw the whole reason that rule exists is to facilitate characters' inability to join squads which is fucking retarded
I miss shit like challenges.

>>55036124
>And bring back attaching characters to units.
Fuck that deathstar shit.

It was a bad rule to have attachments in a game where individual models don't matter.

Until 40k scales the fuck down into warmachine level where individual models are getting shot at on model per model basis, there's no reason for that ass rule to exist.

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So the Ynnari goal is to convert all the Eldar and then have them all die to be reborn by Ynnead's born. With that Ynnead would fully embrace the Eldar under his thrall.

But lets think about this.....Is this a good idea?

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>>55036136
I'mma be honest I could imagine that.

>>55036140
at least you wont have that one asshole trying to get challenge wounds to spill over into the unit this way

>>55036140
6th and 7th can die in a fucking fire.

It was fine in fantasy, but it's fucking retarded in 40k.

>>55036143
Like it makes that much of a difference anyway
Deathstars are still a thing
Works pretty much the same, except now you can't hit the characters with templates.

>>55036139
It's to compensate for not being able to have them join squads anymore so as to stop you deleteing commanders with lascannons turn 1.

>>55035853
Might be up enclaves alley

>>55036140
It's a bit stupid how 8e has so many fantastic melee rules that target characters only but more often than not it's near impossible to actually get into combat with said characters.

>>55036143
The issue with deathstars wasn't with the concept of characters joining squads. You have the same basic concept now. The issue was ridiculous special rules. Special rules have been significantly toned down across the board.

>>55036148

I want to see low-rider rhinos

I want to see rims. I want gild chains and grills, holding boltguns sideways in typical "gangster " fashion.

I dont get why units can shoot through each other.
Have anyone played with true LoS rule? I want some cool tactics like defending my infantry with using vehicles as shieldwalls

>>55036134
No, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

More you try to divide the rules, less streamlined it will become. You can take the streamlined simplicity or complexity of minutia.

>>55036143
You're missing why deathstars were OP.

>>55036144

>if you kill yourself you win

t. Yvraine

>laughingvect.jpg

>>55036157
>Kharn and High Marshal Helbrecht become involved in the same melée, they proceed to pummel the nameless nobodies around them to death

>>55035825
Ahaaaa,
looks like /tg/ has another fucker that never grew out of his chuunibyou

>>55036172
Units can't shoot through each other. If the shooter can't see any part of any model in the unit then it can't shoot them.

>>55036172
>Have anyone played with true LoS rule?
Yes, for 3½ years, it was awful.

>>55036172
At my LGS, we've houseruled to consider all vehicles cover, and if a vehicle is completely obscuring an infantry unit, it obscures LoS.

>>55036144
well we have two possible outcomes here

A) They succeed and become an army that actually might get shit done now and then

or

B) They all an hero and there is one less useless NPC race to worry about

>>55036176
Canaldar.

Quick question, with vehicle LoS the wording implies that if any part of the vehicle can draw LoS it can fire any of its weapons. Is this accurate and does that mean that you can fire sponsons wherever you wish?

>>55036172
>I dont get why units can shoot through each other.
watch any military gunline through history.

>>55036160
Good, now there won't have to be stupid addendums with look out sir and other intervention shit to bloat up the core rule.

Fuck challenges, fuck independent characters and attaching, fuck 40k templates.

These things need to be dead and buried fucking forever.

>>55036172
I want cool tactics like having one squad take bullets for another squad by blocking LoS

>>55036178
Yeah, you got to kill stuff.

What, you think people read nametags in a middle of a battle? Also, you have fucking pile in and consolidate moves, fucking get in there if you are feeling so antsy

>>55036184
Rereaded rule. Okay, some guys cheated and shooted through their rhinos at me
>>55036186
But 7th was awful not because los
>>55036208
I played few games and my opponent said "you can shoot through units. Like its only shooter and target at table"
>>55036218
It must be metal box

>>55034873
>but the zoanthropes nearly smote the Callidus to death, her life spared by 4 simultaneous 4+ invul saves.
You don't get invulnerable saves against smite.

>>55036205
yes, it's been addressed. everything shoots everywhere.

Jeez, like clockwork.

>>55036182
Speak >>55036182
english rice eater

>>55036232
>But 7th was awful not because los
Doesn't excuse true LOS.

TLOS is cancer that should never belong in a game

>>55036236
>on 4chan
>tells people not to use weebspeak

>>55035954
>Let's take away the Primarch of Magic's access to magic
What the fuck, man. I'd rather pay out the ass for a model that does its job than have a cheap but pointless piece of shit.

>>55036236
baka desu

>>55036236
Just google the term. You are on the internet you fucking idiot. Information is bountiful.

Also lurk the fuck moar

>>55036247
2 nukes weren't enough zipperhead

>>55036248
He mean Magnus and other TS will get their own spells and cant use hex or warptime anymore cause its different discipline

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>>55036244
You're just mad your army wasn't as skillfully modeled as mine.

>>55036235
Sorry, it just seems very odd thing that infantry have to use direct line of sight and vehicles can fire lascannons out of exhaust pipes.

>>55036259
Source your ass.

>>55036257
>thinks they're actually japanese

wew, and you honkeys said the american peak hour /tg/ was cancer

>>55036262
well the infantry models use their whole model as well, you're not checking to see if the gun could see a guy, if the man's elbow or haemorrhoids has LOS then the whole model does
its exactly the same

>>55036274
>threatens to nuke himself

>>55036262
Because GW still is terrible at writing rules and won't use volumetrics of bases for LOS.

The worst part is that faglords like >>55036261
>>55036172 give them the impression that it's ok.

>>55036283
>not even making sense anymore

Speak English, motherfucker.

>>55036236
baka gaijin, you dishonour greater east asian co prosperity sphere

>>55036273
But the entire unit can't open fire. Only the parts of the unit that can make LoS. Much like a vehicle only being able to fire the weapons that can make LoS.

>>55036218
3rd edition grots did that, before they were transformed into the designated objective-holder

>>55036287
He did, he clearly wrote in English.
Maybe instead about bitching about the romanization of a Japanese term, maybe you could go back to preschool to learn, starting from the alphabet.

Campaign is over for 4th planet let's check who won

Time's up. Chaos won. A Warpstorm opened wide across the Konor system cutting the system's communication to the wider Imperium and flooding the planet of the system with hordes of daemons.

Any comments, teegee?

>>55036287
English takes 60% of its words from Latin/French, perhaps you should be speaking Latin if you want to avoid using words from other language.

>>55036312
>speaking
>not using grunts and cave drawings

Plebs

>>55036295
we're talking models here anon
not units, do you understand?
All of the tank's guns are part of the same MODEL, they're not separate models
All of an infantry dude's guys are part of a unit but they're not the same M O D E L
if a model can draw line of sight it can shoot
a tank, while considered a unit, is still a single model
a single guardsman is also a model and draws LOS the exact same way

if you have a tank squadron it works the same way

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>>55036310

>>55036317
>using grunts and cave drawings
>not just throwing differing amounts of shit to give context and meaning
Oh look at mister fancy over here.

>>55036323
>>55036317
Hey, play nice. Both of you are Space Wolf players, so try to get along.

https://warhammer40000.com/blog/chaos-victory-vanitor/

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Press F to pay respect.

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>>55036310

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>>55036338

>>55036338
So, odds that GW totally fudged the numbers to make it remotely fair?

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Jesus Christ. What's the hell is the Carcharodons problem?

>>55036357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMM

>how the Carcharodons view the Emperor

>>55036353
I wouldn't be surprised, it was rather close. Would be rather banal if chaos didn't win anything

t nurgle cuck

>>55036353
I think people are either getting bored of the campaign or all the new players starting Primaris armies have no idea how to play missions with actual objectives.

>>55036353
100%

>>55036259
I know that's what he means but a sorcerer legion should have access to both, if not also the tzeentch table as well. TS are fairly rigid when it comes to fluff and tabletop, they don't generally use vehicles or heavy ordnance at all. None of their units can take anything heavier than a S5 gatling gun, mortal wound dispensing and all kinds of support shit is their schtick. The more disciplines they have access to, the fluffier it is and the more sorcerers they can field (which is also fluffy) before that fucktarded "Rule of One" comes into effect.

Otherwise you're either going to have an ancient psyker legion fielding max 2 proper psykers or an ancient psyker legion only throwing out a spell even the shittiest Rincewind-tier psyker can cast.

>>55036365
>all the new players starting Primaris armies
But anon, odds are they're playing against Imperial players anyway.

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>>55036357
I don't know what happened,, it I can only assume it was brutal violence backed by carnage.

>>55036338
GW gave Chaos a big head start at the beginning so I'm not at all surprised
What I find bullshit is this "yeah imperium won 3 parts already but that didnt really matter like, at all haha lol. Now that chaos won one its SUPER DUPER BIG AND IMPORTANT OH DANG LOOK HOW IMPORTANT CHAOS IS GUYS

>>55026153
>what army do you play?

Orks... though I gave away almost everything post 2nd ed when I moved house. Nobody was really playing GW games in my locale and I needed the space.

>do you prefer narritive play, matched play, or a mix of both?

Narritive, though GW really doesn't seem to like that type of play nowadays.

>have you ever refused to play against someone for not being wysiwyg, using 3rd party models, or using proxies?

I once played someone who was proxying a force of carapace-armoured humand with Space Crusade Chaos Space marine models... with no arms.

>if it's a casual game and you see someone make a small rules mistake with their army do you tell them immediately, tell them after the game, or never tell them?

Usually at the time. 40k has a learning curve. Hopefully it will help them avoid making that same mistake in their next game.

>how old are you?

Too old.

>have you ever unironically said or typed the word "boipucci"?

Up until now I'd only seen it on /vg/'s /WTG/ threads. I thought that /TG/ had 'Dragon Dildo Scenery' instead?
> On an unrelated note...

Somone mentioned to me, a while back, that there was a PDF of GW's COMPLETE playtest rules for Confrontation. Has anyone ever seen these, or is it a Myth? The WD rules were incomplete.

>>55036381
>Imperium got more tanks, men, and food
>get pissed when Chaos gets more daemon troops

3 advantages > 1 advantage

>>55036381
Did chaos actually start with a lead? I didn't look at the results right as the mission started.

Either way the planet swung back and forth a couple of times.

With the way GW is wanking off Chaos with this victory though I wouldn't be surprised if the next mission has the Imperium forces in the area suddenly utterly crushed and on the back heel.

>>55036310
Call me back when it's Orktarius time.

>>55036357
scans?

>>55036407
>scans?
What is this, the 90s?

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>tfw Chaosfag waiting for a new Undivided range before returning to my true faction playing as Deathwatch
>no matter how this campaign ends I'm happy
It feels good.

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>this describes vanitor
geedubs are an odd bunch