/aosg/ Warhammer Age of Sigmar General

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>>55026518
FIRST FOR THE GREAT CORRUPTOR!

It seems I was beaten to making a new thread oh well :(

Here's GHB2 info anyway guys

GHB2 Cool stuff:
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/23/reeces-freeguildgw-homepage-post-3/

>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/22/rhuairidhs-brayherds/

>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/21/petes-ironjawzgw-homepage-post-3/

Blightwar!
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/20/blightwar-new-rules-new-models-and-moregw-homepage-post-2/

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>>55026539
[autistic squeaking intensifies]

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Fourth for HER.

>‘Thank you, queen of the forests. Clan Arleath shall repay the debt in whatever fashion is required. We owe our existence to you, mother of hope.’
>‘Mother of hope no more,’ Alarielle replied, her expression turning grim. ‘The avenger, the scourge, the cleansing sun I have become. None failed the Jade Kingdoms more than I, and none has more for which to atone.’
>‘I have returned, but I cannot bring hope,’ she told the treelord ancient. ‘We stand upon the brink of oblivion and have only taken a single step from the edge. My return will herald not hope, but war, and suffering on a scale none but the immortals have known. I am strife-bringer, woe-seeder. Look not to me for hope, Diraceth, for I have none.’
>‘Then why…?’
>‘Because we must fight or surrender. Victory is so far away that even I cannot see it, but it is not victory for which we strive at the moment. This is a war to survive, to push back from the precipice, to claw our lands free of the grip of darkness and corruption.’ Alarielle stepped back, her canopy-wings turning to golden streamers behind her. ‘I guarantee nothing, Leafmaster, but bloodshed, misery and death. I am clothed in the light of the sun, but I cast the shadow of the grave. Without hope, without even hope of hope, will you fight beside me?’

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>>55026639
Pssh-pssh...nothin personell..tree-thing

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>>55026518
Soon

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All this ratposting

Where my S K E L E T A L S at?

>>55026694
Its Fucking annoying as hell that GW has blatantly ignored Death for so long

>>55026709
Skeletons are objectively the best army

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>>55026694

>>55026693
yours is one of the few aos memes I'm not annoyed of. I never liked your faction but you really deserve a reboot (let's be realistic they won't come back in their old form).

>>55026694
>>55026709
>>55026733
Well, at least deathrattle has a new box now. In my LGS people are playing mainly skirmish now and few players decided to buy the deathrattle box

So, competitive Skaven, where do I start?

>>55026709
Bring back Tomb Kings.

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>>55026797
>buy a few boxes of stormfiends
>buy a few warp lightning cannons
>buy a few (metal) weapon teams (you'll need spire of dawn for the plastic warp flamers)
>buy a few warlock engineers and an arch engineer (they're all metal :^))
>DOOMWHEELS!
>apply for a loan to pay the bills
>sperg out on 4chan when stormfiends get nerfed

do you what to hear some rumours?

>>55026911
Sure anon. Break my heart.

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18 renown for an orruk great shaman - is it okay or should I rise the costs to 20 renown?

Do you think we'll be getting more stormcast soon?

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>>55026966
Yes. Next question.

>>55026921
>Shurion - Warhammer-Board.de
>Eine Rückkehr von Bretonen und Khemri war das letzte mal, als ich aktiv nach AoS neuigkeiten gefragt habe, nicht geplant. Das war vor einem Jahr etwa. Mittlerweile sieht es wohl etwas anders aus. Die neue Führung sieht das etwas anders als die alte, und das Designteam hat wohl die Erlaubnis mit Konzepten für eine AoS Version von beidem rumzuspielen. Aber fest in der Schedule ist da aktuell nichts.
>Death kriegt den neuen Stil, den schon Nagash und seine Freunde haben. Da kommt definitiv mehr. Wann... dauert noch etwas.

I'm not Shurion and I don't know him. I'm just translating.

the last time he asked - a year ago - the were no plans for returning bretonnia or tomb kings.
now things have changed. under the new leadership the design team has the permission to experiment with concepts of "aos versions" for both. but there is nothing in the schedule!
also death gets a new style. the same nagash and the morghasts have. there will be more. when? it will still take some time.

>>55026694
I want to start a skirmish campaign with the recommended 25 points but the Wight King is 24 points.
This bothers me because SKELETONS ARE THE CHAMPIONS

>>55027089
Play 30 mate

>>55027069
Damn it Anon, don't toy with my feelings like this!

>>55027131
I'm also a death player. I would never toy with Death feelings. Aelf feelings maybe...

But even IF it is true.
It's years away I guess...

>>55027122
That is a good point

So starting to get into Age of Sigmar, I need to build a basic 1000 point Skaven army to play with.

I found a post on leddit that has some basic 1000 point armies, and one that seemed good to start with was the spire of dawn boxed set and a box of stormvermin.

That's 1 warlock engineer, 1 warlord, 40 (20x2) clanrats, 1 warpfire thrower team, 1 poison wind mortar team, 2 rat ogors and 20 stormvermin. Cost is $80 for the spire box + $50 for the stormvermin.

Lookin at the point cost though to just hit a 1000 point battles, this says that everything non-storm vermin is 680 points. They fill it out with 20 stormvermin at 280 points, but I noticed the Doomwheel is 140. Would I be better off snagging dual doomwheels to fill that out? Doomwheels seem pretty fuckin awesome and I love the model, would love to build and paint one so if I can get that in that'd be sweet.

Thoughts?

>>55027240
What about pestilens :(

You just need a verminlord, a priest, a ton of plague monks, and maybe a warp lightning cannon

>>55027293

Not really into the Pestilens kinda aesthetic. I'm more into the Clan Mors kinda deal and would rather just go with something more choppy than nurgly

>>55027240
I would say you should consider to find someone willing to share the cost of SoD with you for aelves models and buy two SoD boxes. You can also sell them on ebay or FB groups, same as spare square bases. You want as many warpfire throwers, rat ogors and clanrats as you can get. Then you can try to find some wheels and cannons cheaply. That's my casual 1000pts list and I had a lot of fun with it

Heroes
Skaven Warlord (100)
- General
- Barbed Blade
- Trait: Lord of War
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest
Packmaster (60)
- Shock-Prod
Warlock Engineer (100)

Battleline
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Blade
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Blade

Units
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60)
4 x Rat Ogors (240)

Battalions
Ripsnikk's Raiders (80)

Total: 1000/1000

>>55027069
Even if true, and even assuming they started right as based Roundtree took over that will, at best, still be around two years out.

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Just painted them and I wanted to share.

What are you working on?

>>55027361

Sadly I've asked around all my friends and no one else is interested in going halfsies with me on the Spire set. While I'd love to just buy two boxes for myself plus some more packs, I'm having to keep it tight because I still need dosh to pay for paints and brushes, once I figure out what set of paints I want/need for the spire skaven

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How is this for a casual 1000p list? I am going to bring it to my local Gw, and just have some fun.

Heroes
>Lord of Plagues 100p (General)
>Chaos Sorcerer Lord 140p
>Herald of Nurgle 100p

Battleline
>10 Plaguebearers 100p
>20 Gors with dual blades 160p

Other
>3 Plague Drones 220p
>5 Putrid Blightkings 180p

If I don't get AOS poxwalkers I will lose my shit

>>55027361
>Clanrats
>Rusty Blade
It's mean to give somebody bad advice, anon.

>>55027486
Its such an easy inclusion like the Tzaangors it wouldn't surprise if they didn't do it lol.

>>55027486
I would much rather have Pestigors/Poxgors

>>55027486
Be prepared to loose your shit, then. Poxwalkers aren't going to be in AoS, they're far to tech-y to bring into a Rotbringer army.

Is it me or are Nighthaunt stuff pretty crazy strong?

>>55027475
Buy your brushes on aliexpress. I have paid 2$ for six brushes and I was using them for 3 months until I killed them. Skaven budget painting?
>Mournfang brown for wood and fur
>Bugmans glow for flesh and tails
>Zandri dust for fuckin everything
>Deathguard green for green things
>Mechanicus grey for non-green clothes
>Leadbelcher for metal parts
>Reikland and Agrax shades for shades
>Any texture paint for bases
And remember about black primer

>>55027507
>running spears on anything else beside 30+ blobs of rats

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>>55027514
Yeah, these totally fit the AoS Nurgle aesthetic. Especially the lab-coat, the repurposed lasgun and the industrial gear. A perfect choice.

>>55027586
>running blades on anything but throwaway packs of ten rats
Disgusting.

>>55027537
Nighthaunt abilites and artifacts didn't leak yet, right?
>>55027604
Maybe, but works fine for me

>>55027586
>>55027604

tfw new to game and dont know if spears or swords is trolling

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>>55027069
>>55026801
>>55026733
>>55026694
>>55026773
>>55026709
>post yfw Settra comes back supercharged from killing all 4 chaos gods and makes Nagesh his personal bitch within seconds

>>55027453
Look's good anon!

>>55027589
No shit they'd have to be de-teched, but they better do it. Just give me a shitty footsoldier

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>>55027193
Years is better than never

>>55027637
I prefer using blades on <30 rats. Better chance for damage and I rarely have a problem with fitting them while pile-in. If I run 30 or more per unit then spears are must-have

>>55027589
Yeah next to stuff like the stormcasts and steampunk dwarves in power armor yeah they fit right in I agree.

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Hello guys, my father, friends and I are wondering what we should buy, if Path to Glory or General's Book

We are enjoying Skirmish so far, and we know PtG is a continuation of the adventure, but the GB is also interesting for the standart play thing
We mostly play between us in our homes, so imo PtG would be more fitting, but I as you anyways, just for variety of opinions

>>55027709
If its a few buddies in beer and pretzel games, PtG all the way, if you want matched play, GHB

>>55027709
I would agree with Path to Glory being your next purchase, at least for the time being, considering that it pretty much is a larger scale Skirmish.

General's Handbook is very useful and adds some things to the game, but not actually necessary. Look into it after you finish a Path to Glory campaign.

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>>55027589
No one in AoS wears coats, uses guns, or utilizes advanced environmental protective gear. Good observation, it's very encouraging to see such sharp eyed individuals among today's young adults.

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Anyone saved GHB17 points for greenskinz and gitmob?

>>55027637
I strictly use spears on anything above 10, as I value the added range way more than a minor stat upgrade. Having an easier time of piling in and such is important, as is maximising attack volume against big shit.
And with clanrat units now being 20+ baseline I guess I'll never use blades for anything except maybe filler.

>>55027770
Very cute. You might have a point if we ever get zombie skydorfs (i.e. never), but for the rest it really doesn't work.

>>55027485
Its definetely ok.
keep the herald with the drones for mortal wounds, NEVER get charged with blightkings because they are not very durable, use the bearers and gors as meat shield and you should be fine.
Always play on defence, i usually use a human line of plaguebearers as a meat shield, so they die when charged but everything else behind(usually blightkings)piles in and counterattacks safely.

>>55027347
Stop right there. Pestilens is not a nurgle sub faction. It's a a skaven clan.

If I get the Deathrattle Starter Box and the Arkhan box, and choose the Legion of Death Battalion is that a viable 1000pt army?

>>55028039
The Start Collecting Skeleton Hordes that is

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>>55026694
Dead-thing shall die-die again...

WHERE GHB2 LEAKS? i need muh artifacts

>>55027984

I know, just not really into poison and rot and such. More into like, Mors

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Is 3x pic related + banshee the best way to build a 1000pts nighthaunt list?

Heroes
Cairn Wraith (60)
- General
- Trait: Red Fury
- Artefact: Tomb Blade
Tomb Banshee (80)

Battleline
3 x Spirit Hosts (120)
- Nighthaunt Battleline
3 x Spirit Hosts (120)
- Nighthaunt Battleline
3 x Spirit Hosts (120)
- Nighthaunt Battleline

Units
5 x Hexwraiths (160)
5 x Hexwraiths (160)
5 x Hexwraiths (160)

Total: 980/1000

I thought about killy Cairn Wraith + Hexwraiths flying through enemies for mortal wounds. Spirit hosts are splitted into small units because I'm worried about their big-ass bases

>>55028139
the best budget way*

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What are you working on /aosg/?

>>55028178
Some skellies, a Wight King with Black Axe, some Ironjawz too, and I'm thinking about re-painting a bit a Giant I painted 7 yeras ago

No pics because my cam is broken right now tho

>>55028178
Cleaning moldlines on old orc boyz and skellies right now. Decided to clean and magnetize all models I'm gonna work on for the next month. Fuckin love working with plastic

>>55028178
Local GW is running a Path to Glory campaign, so I'm working on my initial warband,

>Vampire Lord
>Necromancer or Wight King with Infernal Standard, not sure which just yet
>20 Skeleton Warriors
>5 Black Knights

Made a little backstory for the army, and I'm pretty hyped to participate.

>>55027770

Are they going to put Elves in power armour next?

Which of the Aelven factions do you guys want a battletome and what reason do you want it?

>>55028473
Highborn - just merge the Swifthawk Agents, Eldrich Council and maybe another mini-faction like Phoenix Guard, give them a common keyword or some neat synergy

>>55028473
None
Im gay

>>55028473
It's a huge long shot, but I'd love to see Lion Rangers become their own army. There one of the few high elf units I really like the aesthetic of, and what little lore they have in AoS is pretty neat.

But more realistically, I'd like the Wanderers to get their own battletome. The models they were given towards the end of 8th are beautiful, and forest murder elves are always fun. It's kind of a shame though, because they really can't compete with the more recent army releases. Hell, I'd even be happy if they were reunited with Sylvaneth in a battletome, with the lore being that they're trying to prove themselves to Alarielle again.

But hey, they're getting allegiance abilities in GHB17, so maybe that'll make Wanderers a bit more competitive.

>>55028299

My local GW said they are running Path to Glory too when I called. You don't happen to be in Florida, are you?

Or maybe a lot of GW's are running it

>>55028566
>There
*They're

Goddamn, I hate myself.

>>55028585
It's okay anon we all hate ourselves here, just remember to tie the noose properly otherwise you can survive with severe brain damage instead of empty bliss

>>55028473
None
Im not gay

>>55028348
We can only hope.

>>55028570
South Carolina. I don't know for sure, but based on what it sounds like, it seems like it's something a few GW managers are doing around the same time. Probably talked about it at the last manager meeting, or something.

Who's a decent melee army with kickass magic and not Stormcast?

please say Dark Elves, or Chaos Warriors

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Really glad threads are speeding up again. It's been too long.

>>55028753
Tzeentch can do melee very well, even if its most powerful builds are ranged.

>>55028552
Bleh worst answer.

>>55028753
Tzeentch.

Tzaangors get an additional attack for every nine models. Run a 30 man unit with a Chaos Sorcerer Lord boosting them with Demonic Power (reroll attack, wound, and save rolls of 1) and they turn into a feathered rape train.

>>55028753
Unfortunately(?), there really isn't much in the way of a magic heavy army in AoS. Like the other anon said, Tzeentch Arcanites is the closest for that.

>>55028862
How is a faction where almost all heroes and some of their troops are wizards not magic heavy?

I have 20 blightkings, 5 more on sprue, and 2 maggoth on sprue. Also a lord of plagues, festus, and harbinger. What am I missing for 2k?

>>55028794
>>55028853
>>55028862

I'll look into them thanks! Also is the Free Guild/Peoples army basically just a gunline army?

So are Gore Gruntas good now? They are cheaper, and with the Ironjaw abilities their extra damage goes off on a 7 instead of an 8! A seven is average!
I know the spear version will forever suck, but are the choppas good? Finally?!?! I love the models

>>55028178
building a Bretonnia-Deathrattle crossover army, sucks that there's no skellie archers though

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>If you want to run a destruction warband in Skirmish campaign you have to pick an ironjawz warchanter or fuckin grot shaman
This is such a bullshit. Savage Big Boss is the only Bonesplitterz plastic hero or what? Not gonna lie, I'm mad now - I wanted to buy two BS kits and one or two heroes to have some fun in skirmish but fuck this actually. I bet there is also no chance that GW will release any update for Skirmish in the future

I find it a little interesting that the "Our Armies" series on Warhammer Community shows these guys (GW devs? Friends of GW?) with their armies, but none of them are Stormcast.

Although looking over the articles again, it could be be more simply the fact that the armies they're showing are the ones getting allegiance abilities in GHB17.

>>55029045
Yes. Also, if you look into tzeentch consider that you can use both arcanites and slaves to darkness (normal chaos warriors) in the same army without any kind of problem.

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So the other day I was saying that I've spent the past year painting up some plague monks from the pestilens Box with the verminlord (in that time I also did the plague claw). Well I finally pushed through 9 of them this week and finished.
This being said, I'm in need of a quicker painting method, and one anon suggested this
>death guard green spray
>Chadian flesh tone skin
>leadbelcher metal
>white teeth and claws
>EARTHSHADE THAT BITCH
>nurgling green edge highlights on robe

This definitely seems efficient, but I'd just like some more input on if you think this'll still look good.

>>55027586

anyone have pictures of skaven painted with these colors?

>>55029371
>white teeth and claws
Better go with Ubshabti bone.
It will look more natural and you can do the parchments and skulls at the same time.

So, what are the opinions on the allegiance abilities revealed on the Warhammer Community site so far?

Ironjawz
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/21/petes-ironjawzgw-homepage-post-3/

Brayherds
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/22/rhuairidhs-brayherds/

Free Peoples
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/23/reeces-freeguildgw-homepage-post-3/

>>55029333
Going with this, Tzeentch Destiny Dice and a Sorcerer Lord on Manticore can absolutely destroy things.

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>>55029651
I have one because it's my paint scheme but it's a pic before I made some changes. On this pic I used moot green instead of deathguard (chnaged it because I find it too bright so I used it on a single unit), abaddon black instead of grey (it actually looks fine but is pain in the ass if you slap it on something you don't really want to) and balthasar gold instead of leadbelcher

>>55029700
I did it white for the first twenty (in the pic). I'm hoping that if I do it before I shade the whole model, that they'll gain a dirty colour after. I can try basing with bone tho. For the scroll, I do zanderi, earthshade, a patchy dry brush of bone, and sephia

Is there any small elite armies in AoS? Kind of like Grey Knights in 40k?

>>55029854
How would Chadian and earthshade look?

>>55029978
The Ogre armies, for sure. Some armies also allow to use cavalry as Battleline, which can work as an "elite" army as well.

>>55029978
The new book comes out on Saturday. We know a lot of armies are getting new battleline options so there may be a lot of them in the near future.

>>55029264
Yell at them online that you want more options like finecast and FW shit
Or the plastic normal orc warboss

Does anyone have a model that has earthshade on cadian? Can I see how that looks? What about earthshade on bugmans?

Friendly reminder that with gh2017 dark elves are going to be a top tier army

>>55030221
Why do you say that?

>>55030360
Because he just hit the denial phase.

>>55030360
Fuckloads of darkshards and boltthrowers with a hurricanum screened by spearmen
Plus thier new army abilities
Mark my words buddy boyo

>>55030391
Keked

>>55030418
I think you're the ones who are going to become "just an ally faction"

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>>55030448
>>55030391
You'll see
You'll all see

Does anyone have pictures of the following or models with the following? I need to compare:

>earthshade on cadian fleshtone
>earthshade on bugmans glow
>fleshshade on bugmans glow

I'm trying to find a quick and easy method to painting my plague monk skin.

>>55030530
Just watch a youtube tutorial you spastic

>>55027453
Still chugging away at my Ironclad. PtG campaign starts tomorrow and I reaaaally don't want to play with unpainted/half-painted minis.

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>>55030530
Here's bugmans with earthshade. Might be a little dark.

>>55030163
I understand they wanted to stick with plastic models only but at the end of the day they gave us so fuckin few options - and yeah, the greenskinz warboss is a perfect example of how they fucked up

>>55029748
Brayherds make me a happy goat-anarchist. Especially since I was planning on making a Herdstone anyway for fun, it's nice that now it'll have an actual effect.

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>>55030530
I think this one is bugmans with flesh shade

>>55030530
There was one anon yesterday or the day before who said that they did their clanrats skin as bugmans and earthshade. Maybe they could post some rats?

>>55027453
>What are you working on?
Just snapfit Bloodbound for now... Really should splurge and buy myself an actual box of something.

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>>55030530
I do Beastmen with Ratskin Flesh, Agrax Earthshade, and then layered Bestigor/Ungor Flesh. If that helps at all. I don't think I have any WIP pics but I do have pic related

>>55027486
>>55027529
>they're far to tech-y
You what? With shit like the Dwarf blimps floating around?

Besides, they look easy enough to weapon swap and shit anyway. Out of the 10 sculpts in DI only two don't look usable (the dude with the ammo pouch bandolier and the Pyro), even the leader in the coat would look fine if you painted the coat brown, and the 6 in the separate EtB box look usable as well if you just cover the gasmask-y thing in rags or something.

>>55028853
>Tzaangors get an additional attack for every nine models
>can only take units in blocks of 10s

WAKE ME UP

I just want to build a Khorne army made entirely of 8 multiples but this shitty points system just hurts me for doing so. Why couldn't the 2017 Handbook implement points like 40K 8th where you buy a minimum unit then pay per model extra? Or even more simply why couldn't Chaos get some bonus for sticking to their number?

Anons how do I into lore for My Dudes? I want to Skeletons but dunno how

Also, how should I paint them? Rusty weapons and armor, or brand new looking? Suggestions for cloth colors?

>>55030215
You don't have any spare bits?

Interested in starting a beastmen army. I've got a box of Gors and a beastlord, but what should I look into next.

>>55031524
Bray-shaman, probably. Magic and that bonus 3" move bubble is nice. IIRC, I basically started by building towards the old Furious Brayherd battalion. So more Gors, and Ungors (ranged or spears, both are useful. I'd vote bows first though.)

Hey, i want to make some awesome Khrone list for a 1000p list - any sug-BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

>>55029978
Soulblight. Extremely low model count, due to Blood Knights being your only battleline and cost 260 for 5, but are bringing 26 attacks, 15 wounds, 4+ save, 10"M, and you get one back each turn. Use a vampire lord to give them 10 more attacks. However, if you use them, people will call you a fag.

>>55031658
I stand by the idea any Khorne list can be made effective simply by making Khorgos Kul (dude from the starter set) the general. He can pile in from 8" away, and can kill instantly on a 5+ wound roll, though he can only be in a battalion with Goretide models. Other than that, take a bloodsecrator and whatever battleline you want. GHB2 has lots of cool Blood Tithe and artefact stuff, you can't go wrong with any of them.

>>55031753
Awesome! I have the AoS starter set and the start collecting box of khorne bloodhound and a Skullcannon - should I also get bloodletters or the whole sc! Khorne demons?

>>55031791
Some guy managed to already put together an overview of all the new Khorne items. Give it a look and decide what you need, based on your local meta. Khorne tends to be extremely good against elite armies.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.2/Blades_of_Khorne

any good thirty party models for skellingtons? reaper's look pretty awful

>>55031882
mantic also looks terrible

>>55030742
Yeah, Ironjawz and Brayherds are looking good. Makes me optimistic about the Wandereres allegiance abilities.

Free Peoples seem a little boring, but I wouldn't call it bad.

>>55031791
>start collecting box of khorne bloodhound
Hey can you tell me, do the Skullcrushers in that have the parts to be assembled as the daemon equivalent?

>>55031882
This do it for you?

http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=9

I have 20 blightkings, 5 more on sprue, and 2 maggoth on sprue. Also a lord of plagues, festus, and harbinger. What am I missing for 2k?

How do the maggoth lords rank?

>>55032207
now those are some fine skeletons, but they dont have any archers

>>55032291
haha how can skeletons be archers how would they even aim they don't even have eyes.

You are being silly Anon

>>55032333
Can't miss if you can't see in the first place, anon.

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>>55031676

>I did not realize Blood Knights were this scary.

I'm using Nurgle against this, and it's my main opponents list, am I boned?

>>55032391
This is the most retarded logic ever.

>>55032391
>thinkingblackman.jpg

>>55031676
>resin
>5 models for 165AUD

Not the guy you're replying to but, fuck that. That's not an economic army at all.

>>55032507
Ally in a warp lightning cannon or 2

>>55032675
Most people buy dragon princes and von carstein upgrade packs and kitbash their own. I don't think I've ever fought a Blood Knight player that used the actual models.

>>55032291
Don't play WYSIWYG. You're proxying anyway.

>>55032507
BKs are damn scary, but they're only especially on charges. If they charge, a unit of 5 gets 16 3+/3+/-1/D3. So don't let them. Throw chaff at them.

Is he also playing pure Soulblight? If so, you can expect the leader to be a vamp lord on zombie dragon with most likely either Red Fury, which will let him attack twice, or the damn Cloak, which will give him a flying 28" move. It also has basically an auto-hit breath attack. Try to manintain your distance and shoot it down to degrade its attack profile. It's also very likely he might bring multiple vamp lords with Flying Horror, they're the main debuff unit of Soulblight, only 140ppm but can give enemy units -1 attack per weapon. They can fly 10", so again, throw chaff at them.

You're Nurgle. Tarpits is your thing. You should be fine.

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>>55030530
Here's the two earthshade ones. If you're doing an all in one skin job, I'd recommend cadian (it's lighter)

>>55032777
So you buy a 33AUD upgrade pack, then you use that on what exactly..?

>dragon princes
???

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What does clans pestilens struggle with? I'd like to get to know my army a bit better.

>>55032946
Sorry Dragon *Blades* apparently.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/High-Elf-Dragon-Princes-of-Caledor
Also since it's all proxies anyway you could do what I do and just paint Black Knights red, but that's cause I'm lazy and cheap and my group enables it.

>>55033037
>Dragon Princes in the URL
>Dragon Blades on the actual page

These renaming shenanigans... But yeah, 83AUD for a unit or 133 for 10 Knights if you can kitbash a second banner together, Vargheists also seem a reasonable price at 80 for 3, that does seem a lot better.

Guys what the fuck is next faction according to the rumors? Please be undead...

>>55033166
Nurgle will probably (he'd better) get the next battletome. Still waiting on hellcast destroyers.

>>55033166
It's Stormcast Eternals just like we have been asking for all along!

Anyone else keen on the Open War cards?
Nor much of a matched play/tournament player, so these are right up my alley.

>>55033166
Something called Fimir. They're allied with Destruction and have models out by FW. Apparently based on Fomorians.

>>55026518
haha I hate myself

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>>55033273
>Citadel plastic fimirach models
>an actual Battletome:Fimirach
I fucking wish

>>55033327
I would buy a hat and eat it

>>55033166
nurgle is confirmed

deathrattle is almost definitely coming after that

then probably an elf faction that didnt get allegiance in the GHB17... probably swifthawks

>>55033380
>>55033199

What we getting for nurgle outside of based slugman? Also any new rumors on elves?

>>55033412
They should rub the nurgle books in dirt before packaging them to ship

>>55033412
Probably just a battletome with rotbringers, daemons, mortals, and MAYBE pestilens (I hope not, we're not a nurgle baby)

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>>55033450
Leave them in a septic tank for a couple days

>>55033473
Rotbringers needs more than 1 troop choice

>>55033528
They wouldn't be able to sell them then. There's nothing illegal about selling something covered in dirt though

>>55033530
P E S T I G O R S

>>55033412
not sure.

we are going to see Blightwar this week, 40k Death Guard next week, and a nurgle release for AOS following the 40k release

so it depends on what they release for 40k. if theres lots of new daemon sculpts then they will definitely be ported to 40k. if we are lucky we'll see pestigors, since they were mentioned in 40k fluff - when they released tzaangors they did so for both games

>>55032105
Does anybody know this?

Also, what colour scheme should I go for some Khorne? I was hoping to avoid the general red everything but being Khorne colour options do feel a bit stifling.

>>55033675
Wait what? Pestigors were mentioned?

>>55029045
In part yes. I'd call em a hammer and anvil army, since they also have good tarpit units. Take a 30 strong blob of freeguild guard with swords and shields and your enemy will be bogged down for quite a while.

>>55033701
yes in the fluff for 40k, dont have a source offhand since i stopped following 40k news after realizing how terrible the game is

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>>55033701
Pic related
>>55033730
What do you mean terrible? This edition seems pretty good.

>>55033778
its too spammy and less strategic than AOS

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>>55033810
>mfw they say the exact same thing about us

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>>55033327
>actual Battletome: Fimirach
>turns out eerily similar to the one I've been making
>mfw

Realistically I know it'd never happen but yeah I too would kill for plastic Fimir and a tome.

>>55033971
I play skaven and even I think this is cool

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>>55033700
I've seen some interesting white schemes

>>55034009
Ah cool, I was thinking maybe some pale pink, but bone/white could be interesting.

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>>55033971
I just wanna see the line completed and playable. I don't care if it is Citadel or Forge World who completes it, I just want it fucking done.

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What's the best way to speed paint skaven skin? I'm just going for tabletop quality.

>>55034255
base coats
agrax earthshade

optional: highlights

>>55034255
I'm no expert, but I would say using a brush to apply the paint to the model is a good idea.

>>55034255
prime them white and then use washes and glazes

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>>55034273
Kek

>>55034270
What base would you recommend?

>>55027485
Thats such a weird picture, are the Chaos Warriors 2 feet tall? They're about a foot taller than the nurglings, but the Chaos Lord's horse towers over all of them, its clearly not jumping as the angle is wrong unless it jumped about 5 or 6 feet straight up before it began moving forward, in which case what are the nurglites standing on to be so tall?

>>55034370
The nurglings are on a small hill that the chaos lord is also on. The warriors are marching around the hill. Scale seems ok to me

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I can't decide between Deathrattle or Nurgle Daemons. I like both, but I'm leaning towards Deathrattle, though Nurgle is getting a lot of new stuff right now. Hmmm…

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Is it legal to use legacy compendiums? For example, the High Elf Prince on a dragon seems very good. Is the allegiance going to be order and what would be legal battlelines for High Elf legacy army ?

Is there any sense anymore in a mono army? Or if i want to make a good army i have to use all kind of shits related to the allegiance for make a good one?

I'm the anon from last thread that got stolen almost all of his special units, here is a list of grots I manage to put together with what I have left, how shit is it?


Allegiance: Destruction

Heroes
Grot Warboss (80)
- General
- Moon Slicer
Moonclan Grot Shaman (60)
Moonclan Grot Shaman (60)

Battleline
40 x Moonclan Grots (240)
- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields
40 x Moonclan Grots (240)
- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields
20 x Moonclan Grots (120)
- Bows & Slittas
10 x Grot Spider Riders (200)


Total: 1000/1000

Also, is it good idea to have 2 units with 40 models or is it better to have 4 units with 20 models?

>>55034298
Don't like this method cause doing any touchups is hard and involves very specific colourmatching.

If I can only pick one to run in 1000 points, should I take a verminlord corruptor or a plague furnace?

>>55034863
Take both, arm monks with staffs, profit

>>55029065

Definitely worth it IMHO.

>>55034862
but as long as you are neat as can, then it works.

Worst case scenario, a bit of gloss nuln oil right in the crevice will hide any mistakes

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>>55030690
Man, have I got a thing for you.

Hey guys! Ben Curry confirmed on that forum he admins that Chaos Dwarf fans "will not be disappointed" this weekend. Sounds like FW are getting their lazy inattentive arises into gear to add stuff for their beautiful but neglected minis. Hurray!

Goddamnit I hope they fix Sayl...

>>55034816
I am gonna say it is better to have two units of 40. They both now have weapon profiles of 5+ 2+. That 5+ may suck, but the 2+ is gonna make most of what lands stick. Also if you want arrow grots, get gitmob. They at least get an actual benefit to having them.

>>55034701
How do you mean? Sticking to one specific subfaction will grant you with potentially better bonuses in the form of your Allegiance Ability and Command Trait, as well as artefacts, magical items and shit you can give to your heroes. For example, sticking to the Blades of Khorne subfaction grants me the ability to use Blood Tithes (points that tally up when units die and can then be spent on neat tricks), and every Khorne hero gets a Khorne-flavoured artefact or daemonic gift (depending on if they have the Mortal or Daemon keyword).

Compare that to if I mixed Chaos Gods, I would only be able to have "Chaos" as my allegiance and I would get a much more generic Allegiance Ability, and much more generic artefacts. The benefit there of course is that I can add in units which cover my weaknesses, so sticking to my subfaction or going general Chaos with majority my subfaction is a choice I have to make which will affect what kind of army I run - do I double down on what my subfaction does well, or do I generalise and cover any holes?

To make things a bit more interesting and that choice easier to make, the 2017 Handbook that's literally out in a couple days will add the ability to take up to 400 points of allies without affecting Allegiance. So for eg. with my Khorne dudes I'm planning to take 400 points of Monsters of Chaos which will help me debuff enemy units and get Mortal Wounds, and then I still get all my Blood Tithes and Khorne-specific artefacts.

>>55034701
It comes down to whether or not you are able to apply pressure in your chosen faction. Order factions tend to have way more options for ranged combat than Chaos or Death, for example, so they're the ones most likely to seek allies with bows.

Is there a Path to Glory scan up anywhere? I've been tempted to pick it up, but I want to be sure it's worth the dollar before taking the plunge

>>55035117
ok, thanks, I chose moonclan because the minis I have are clad in black as they are from the WHFB 7e starter set, but I guess there is no harm in just stating they are from the gitmob clan.

>>55035213
I think a cheaper alternative would be skirmish then path to glory.

Should be something in OP though.

>>55035228
Most people shouldn't have a problem with that. Good luck and Have Fun!

>>55035234
Nothing in the links I could find :(

for taking ally units do you need to take a hero with from that ally faction like in different detachments in 40k? thinking about starting a deathrattle army backed up by some morghasts

>>55035491
I don't believe you do

>>55032105
Nah the Skullcrushers are the mortal unit and can be armed with either Glaives or Axes, both options come in the box. The Demonic dudes are Bloodcrushers and a a separate kit. The Bloodcrushers come in the Daemons of Khorne start collecting and their own box as well but I would just get the start collecting if you want them.

So can I build a LoC with Kairos's heads instead? I want to build a LoC with a Rod of Sorcery, but I'd rather have him be two headed if possible.

Would GW have a hissy fit if I brought it to play in their store?

>>55029371
>That basing on the Plagueclaw

Did you do Duncan's Toxic Bases?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na26t36C7X4&t=1s

So this seems pretty legit with the new points. All marked Tzeentch where appropriate.
Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount
(General, Illusionist, Paradoxical Shield)
Chaos Sorcerer Lord
(Bolt of Tzeentch)
Gaunt Summoner with Familiars
(Treacherous Bond, Souldraught)
18 Kairic Acolytes
(6 Glaives, 12 Blade & Shield)
36 Marauders
(Axes & Shields)
18 Chaos Warriors
(HW & Shields)
2x5 Chaos Knights
(Ensorcelled Weapons)
2x2 Gorebeast Chariots
(Warflails)
Fatesworn Warband

What's best on plague monks, staves or dual blades?
Also, why can't you take mixed weapon loadouts for units?

>>55035642
It'd be weird in terms of lore and it'd look confusing, but nobody would really complain.

>>55035845
Staff is better if you have anything more than ten monks due to the added range. It's not exactly a lot of damage, but every little bit you chip in from behind the first row of rats helps.

>why can't you take mixed weapon loadouts
Because that'd lead to min-maxing bullshit and awful looking units with a single shield guy covering an entire load of spear guys.

Am I an asshole for this list - I've never played AoS but this army seems like it rolls kids

>Frostlord on Stonehorn w/ Pelt of Charngar
>Huskard on Thundertusk
>Icebrow Hunter w/Frostwyrm Elixer
>Thundertusk Beastriders
>2 units of 2 Frostsabres
>2 Units of 2 Mournfang Cab
>3 Yhetees
>Skal Battalion
1980/2000 Points

Also is there a points cost for the Icewind Assault formation or is it a narrative play only formation?

Why is the game so generous in handing out Mortal Wounds? It's such a shit mechanic- I roll a die, you die, no recourse. The very opposite of interactivity.

>>55035010
Cool. Good job.
I'll wait for the updated version.

>>55036003
rolling a die isn't interactive either - you just roll the die and accept the outcome with no decision making

In this matter I would say mortal wounds are actually MORE interactive, because they make attacking in that way more valuable, putting more emphasis on the choices the players do make

much like itemized wargear, it feels very strategic to roll for this and that, but it really is just a distraction and doesn't impact player choices much.

>>55026591
FUCK YISS new freeguild support n shit.

MOUSTACHIOS ASSEMBLE

>>55036058
Normal attacks allow varied outcome, and for most attacks, some sort of saving throw on the side of the opponent. Mortal wounds take that out completely. And I'm not saying they shouldn't exist at all, but they should not be so widely available, and so unevenly. Stuff like SCE (obviously...) or Sylvaneth has a shitton of MW, while Kharadrons or Seraphon have almost none or relatively little/depending on effect triggers.

>>55036091
I just hope they get new models without KARL FRANZ on every bannner, or bucket of skulls which "new" Azyrheim stuff doesn't have at all.

Do we have any Blightwar pricing yet? Preferably AUD,

Are they releasing the sea elves? Or were all the rumor images for Nurgle?

>>55036400
Same as Dark Imperium.

>>55036444
All the "sea elf" rumors, except that single dragonet pic, were nurgle. There are no "sea" elves.

Command Traits of Death;

1: General's Deathless Minion range extended to 12"(nerf).
2: +1 to hit and to wound, if your general in cover(buff).
3: Same.
4: Same.
5: 5+ to pile in and attack again(nerf).
6: Extended to 12"(who care).

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Since nobody posted rotbringers points I went ahead to get GH2. So here's the points for rotbringers.

I'm somewhat okay with that. Blightguard just got worthless though.

>>55036652

Thanks! Can you post the Stormcast points too?

>>55036652

You have the book?

>>55036505
Battletrait of Order: Reroll battleshock(anywhere, buff).

Command Traits of Order;
1: Same.
2: 1 unit within 6" of general ignore to battleshock(buff).
3: Reroll charge roll for general only(big nerf).
4: Same.
5: Same.
6: Ignore wound and mortal wound on 6+(buff).

Artefacts of Order;
1-6: Same(FFS).

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>>55036705
Sure can do. Need to get home before I post more, right now I'm at the supermarket ha ha. I have an important meeting coming up, so I'm in a rush.

Enjoy!

Does anyone have the new Seraphon battalions?

>>55036652
Warherd points plz

>>55027015
femcast look pretty cool for a shoehorned addition. Wonder if GW would consider doing femcast casts of existing units or just a "special" release

>>55036253
I can tolerate a new setting but I can't tolerate thematic inconsistency. I loved the illustrations from shadows over hammerhal but they're hard to reconcile with the style presented elsewhere.

>>55036505
What is #6?

>>55036752
Any chance you could post some free peoples stuff? ;)

>>55036752
Thanks! Just a quick question- can you confirm if it's the Aether-Khemist or the Thunderers that got the price bumped to 140?

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>>55036909
It's the Aether-Khemist that is bumped to 140. There's no changes to unit points besides that for Overlords. The batallions have all changed in points though.

>>55036879
Here's the points to free people.

>>55036931
Woops my bad. My phone turned it upside down I guess, ha ha.

>>55036652
No daemons of nurgle allies. Wat.

>>55036931
Great! Thank you. I saw a french scan where it was the thunderers that got bumped,but I assume UK version is the right one. That makes so much more sense.

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>>55036940
TY anyway. Cool to see demigryphs and greatswords be battleline.

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>>55036969
Oh wtf, it's still upside down after I edited it? Must be a client side thing on win10

>>55036955
Clearly an error.
Well, they are going to unite Daemons+Mortal under the same faction soon enough anyway.

>>55036752

Would you be able to share the new Seraphon battalions/command traits/artifacts?

Thanks!

>>55037009
Yeah, I don't think it will matter in the long run. It just feels silly. Blightkings are Nurgle Allegiance battleline anyway.

>>55036744
>Reckless is dead
Shame, it was my favorite trait to take. I guess at least Relic Blade is still the same, so that's something.

>>55036955
We all share the Nurgle keyword, so what does it matter?

>>55037009
Well deamons of nurgle have no allies at all - which is weird as well.

Just saw that my blightkings are bsttleline for nurgle now. That changes alot! Great!

>>55037011
I'll try soon. I'm boarding a train now, but I have the book on me of course.

>>55036955
They are literally the same allegiance. I doubt tzeentch arcanites can take demons of tzeentch as allies

>>55033327
>>55033273
>>55033971
>>55034148
Who knows, maybe GW will try to leech off the hypothetical success of the Dark Crystal remake

>>55037180
Much appreciated.
Quick question, if I may. Why does get allegiance abilities? That was something that's still fairly unclear?
I mean, we know Seraphon, Fyreslayers, Dispossessed, Wanderers and Free People for Order; Beastmen, Skyre, Pestilens and Slaves to Darkness for Chaos; Nighthaunt for Death and Ironjawz and Gutbusters for Destruction, but is that it or do others get something as well?

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>>55037011
Here you go. I did my best in this shaky train.

>>55036967
You're welcome

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>>55037011
Here's the second part.

>>55037267
Check the community site. They have an index that shows who gets what. It covers it all. There's more than you said.

>>55037011
Not him.

Battletrait:
Slann have infinity unbind range and +6" to cast range if u roll double.
Pick 1 unit in hero phase and roll d6, on 1 cant move and charge, 2-5 place anywhere but 9" from enemy can't move, on 6 like 2-5, but u CAN move in movement phase!

Command Traits:
Slann;
1: Reroll 1 for casting and unbinding roll.
2: Know that 2 Skink Wizard spell(yay).
3: Pick 2 units in hero, instead 1.
Saurus;
1: Reroll one failed to hit combat phase.
2: Reroll saving roll of 1.
3: Extra Inspiring Presence.

Skink;
1: Extra Celestial Rites.
2: +1" movement, if not mounted, +1 save too.
3: Pick 1 enemy hero within 3", roll a dive, deal 1 mortal wound on 4+(start of combat phase).

Artefacts;
1: Roll a d6 before battle start, u can reroll save in that battleround. If u roll 6, u can choose any battleround, instead reroll on round 6.
2: When suffer the last wound(1st time), roll a dice, 3+ u healed by d3 wound and place else where 12" and 3" away from enemy. If that impossible, just stay in the same position.
3: 1 weapon rend improved by 1.
4: Dispel Scroll, 18".
5: Treelord stomping ability.
6: Pick a enemy unit within 12", deal d3 mortal wound on 3+, can't move in following movement phase.

>>55037314
Good to know sepharon is still utter aids in non matched play

>>55037289
Holy shit, the artifacts are cool. I might drop the SCE and go lizard now.

>>55037289
>>55037314

Thanks for these. Any chance of the Dispossessed ones?

>>55035010
>Orruk Great Shaman is 28 renown
Thanks but no

>>55037289
>>55037314
Any chance for Nighthaunt allegiance abilities?

Skryre abilities yes-yes?

>>55036652
Who the fuck would run blightkings in a 20 man block

>>55036652
Can you post the points and other things for Death or just Deathrattle?

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>>55037289
>>55037327
>No Anti Pestilens ability/artifact anywhere
>inb4 Pestilens gets nothing to specifically fight Seraphon

Man that's lame as fuck. Why does GW hate fluffy match ups? There should at least be command traits for this

>>55036652
Picture of Nurgle army including pestilens
Pestilens not listed as an ally
Fml

>>55026898
So skryre is the competitive list then?

Different anon but I collected skaven back in fantasy. Any anons tell me how Warlords do in this edition?

Inspection time, Clawson, what do you got for me?
> See-see here. We filled the corpses of our fallen foes with infected bloat rats and timebombs. We launch-throw them with our catapults into the ranks of our enemies where they EXPLODE in a shower of blood and guts and flaming rats! Haha! They will run-run like scared kittens!
That is disgusting *sips coffee* I love it.

>>55037896
Pestilens only has nurgle daemons as allies.

>>55035032
God damn I hope FW actually has a boot in their ass from GW like the rumors state. I want a god damn chaos Dwarf BATTLETOME

>>55035886
it doesnt have points. only battalions from battletomes, grand alliance books, and the GHB itself have points

if it doesnt have points then its not legal for matched play

>>55037891
>he wants shittytraits and relics that take up space and are never ever used
Thank fuck you don't design the game.

>>55037891
Because the shit that target Grand Alliances are already considered worthless garbage, how much more do you think that goes for one subfaction?

>>55037289
>reroll one hit roll
Fucking useless

Seraphon, especially Saurus, have so many ways to reroll hits already

>reroll save roll of 1
Skink Priest lets you reroll ALL saves

>use Inspiring Presence and another command ability
Seraphon are Bravery 10. This is only useful for big blocks of saurus warriors.

Saurus command traits a shit

>>55037314
how the fuck does dracothions tail work

how can a unit be in the battalion and be summoned into play? that doesnt make any sense

>>55038081
Honestly, no idea. At first I assumed that meant he could only summon units that fit into the battalions, but the *any Seraphon unit* proved that wrong.
I guess you just don't deploy the battalions and treat it as a quasi-deepstrike?

>>55038034
>>55038011
>Implying there aren't already useless abilities wasting space and not catering to your power-gaming needs

See
:>>55038044

Sorry you two cunts forgot how to have fun and think everything needs to be min-max bonuses. The 40k general is missing you :^).

>>55038133
>useless bonuses are fun
Fuck off cunt

>>55037314
Can we have a Death allegiance pic?

>>55037289
Seraphon can shut down any magic based army now.

Lizards are the best Order faction EZ

>>55038133
>garbage rules that are pointless outside miniscule situations make the game better
>devs wasting time on shit barely anyone cares about is a brilliant use of resources
>wanting rules that actually impact the game is min-maxing
Thank fuck you don't design games.

>>55038172
Haven't you heard, anon? Seraphon are useless now. They have worse than pointless special rules and none of their allegiance abilities is even remotely good. Everything is awful!

>>55037289
Initial impressions:

Slann seem decent, but still lacking in offense. I guess GW want them to be purely defensive?
I can see myself building Thunderquake Starhost lists with a Slann as the general.

>Battle Trait
Masters of Order is great. Unbind anywhere - does that mean line of sight is no longer required? Increasing the range is a nice bonus, I can see it working well with a Balewind Vortex.
Lords of Space and Time is insane. Two words: Teleporting Bastiladon.

>Command Traits
Slann Command Traits are all amazing.
Saurus command traits are hot garbage. We can already get these effects from other units - who thought these would be a good idea?
Skink Command traits are very cool, but I don't see myself ever using a Skink general since none of them have command abilities.

>Artefacts
Zoetic Dial - Skink Priest already allows us to reroll saves. Useless.
Incandescent Retrices - Very good. RAW it does not cost any points to use this ability. The biggest weakness is that if you get hit by some serious overkill then there is no chance for this to activate. If you die by 1 damage then this is amazing, otherwise it is trash. Might be useful for a Slann?
Blade of Realities - Give it to a Carnosaur bite attack. 10/10
Light of Dracothion - Situationally useful. Might be useful for a Slann since they can unbind anywhere.
Coronal Shield - Treelord stomp is good. You can bring a starseer to reroll the 4+.
Prism of Amyntok - Looks like shit at first but if you teleport the unit into range with Lords of Space and Time then you are dealing D3 mortal wounds on a 3+ , which is great since Seraphon normally don't do many mortal wounds. I would take this on a durable hero like a Sunblood so you can get multiple rounds of value.

>>55038284
I actually kinda like the Saurus command traits in that they make you more flexible with your positioning and/or more independent from buffers.
Not amazing by any stretch, but I could see some uses.

>>55037314
Initial impressions:

Fangs of Sotek
First to Battle is better than it seems. Saurus units with drummers can March, which doubles their movement. That means the +3" movement turns into +6". Saurus warriors can haul 16" across the board on the first turn and capture any objective. Knights can move 20" (!!) the first turn.

First Oldblood
This ability is great. You can either make the Slann your general to reroll save rolls against shooting, or you can use the command abilities from a Sunblood (already in the battalion)

Bellowing Carnosaur
I love Bloodroar, this will be even better. Does this mean you add 1 to determining whether it activates, or do you add 1 when determining how many additional models flee?

Not sure I like the required Sunclaw Starhost because Saurus Warriors are only good in large groups and that jacks up the cost of this battalion even further. It does fill out your required battleline, though.

>Dracothions Tail
Seems like a cool concept - summon your entire army into play turn 1 and have a perfect counter to the enemy plan. Does it even work, though? I'm not sure you can field a unit in the battalion and also summon it into play... The unit doesn't exist before it is summoned, so how does this work??

Firelance Starhost fills out your Battleline with Knights (a very good battleline unit) and lets your entire army be a single deployment (awesome). At only 60 points this is one of the cheapest battalions in GHB17 and paying 60 for an artefact + single deployment is very good.

>>55038325
If the command trait was +1 save I would be all over it, but rerolling save1 when you usually already reroll all saves is a really bad effect.
Skink Priests only cost 80 points now, there is no reason not to bring at least one.

>>55038373
Unless you don't want to, because you want a themed army, in which case it gives you another option. Which is nice.

>>55037896
As already said, Nurgle is a single allegiance. Pestilent aren't allies for Nurgle because they are Nurgle. It's the same reason stormcast don't have extremis chamber as an ally.

>>55038383
You are not wrong.

I am looking at it from a tournament play perspective and I don't see the point in restricting myself to themed armies. To each their own.

>>55038284
The retrieve doesn't care about overkill, because when the model is slayed you already put on him all damage. The "if not slayed move the model" is just in case you fail the 3+ roll.

>>55038201
>>55038144
>Missing the point yet again
>Hurrr why have narrative influence rules??

You tards should take up dice-mashing, you'll get your desired effects and it's damn cheaper than aos

>>55038523
>if you dont exclusively play narrative then you're an anti-fun faglord that shouldnt play this game
>why would you ever want useful bonuses for matched play???

>>55038513
>The retrieve doesn't care about overkill, because when the model is slayed you already put on him all damage.
Thats not how damage in this game works. You apply damage 1 at a time and check if the model is slain. If it is slain, you move the remaining damage onto the next model in the unit. If there are no models left in the unit then the unit is slain and the remaining damage is discarded.

But an effect like the Rectrices happens immediately as you die and before the remaining damage is discarded. So if you get hit with 2 damage and have 1 wound left you will suffer the first damage and be slain, at which point the Rectrices effect kicks in and heals you for D3 wounds, and then the next point of damage is applied.

It even includes the wording "if the model is not slain, then remove it from the battlefield" which is consistent with how the game mechanics work.

If they wanted it to work on overkill then it would cost points because the model would be slain and set up again. This takes effect as a replacement to the slain trigger, so it does not cost points.

Do you think they would just print a stronger version of Ring of Immortality?

Kroak lists are going to be incredible now

Has anyone seen the points for Masterclan yet? Can T&B fit into the allies slot of another Skaven Clan?

>>55036652
>>55036752
>>55036991
>>55037289
>>55037314
These are great. Anyone have the Slaves to Darkness points leaks?

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>>55039189
>>55039189


REMINDER LIZARD MEN ARE NOW AWESOME
KO BTFO
BEATMEN ARE GUD
STORMCAST ARE GHEY

https://youtu.be/GSnCVQzlMZo

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I like how GW is making new abilities fluffy as fuck
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/24/davids-duardingw-homepage-post-3/

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>>55026639

>>55039370
Well... it's not wrong.

Death artifact Ring of Immortality no longer costs reinforcement points confirmed

>>55039442
pics?

>>55039442
Depends on the wording

if it replaces the "slain" event then it does not cost points

if the model is slain and then set up again then it costs points

>>55039457
Was live on stream just now, they changed the wording to make it work. Downside is now it only works on a 3+.

>>55039300
Where is that Minotaur model available from because I want it for my Chaos Dwarfs

>>55039335
I'm a little bummed that the grudge table is literally six different "who would you like to reroll 1's to Hit vs" but I'm still excited. Much like that author, dwarfs were my first army and will always be my favorite on some level.

I'm curious if Battalion effects are going to change considering it seems like many of their benefits have been folded into allegiance abilities (the 1 dispossessed battalion and the Wildstalker Brayherd come to mind).

>>55039189

Reminder that Kroak can't take Command traits or artifacts.

Still though, stick him on a Balewind and he still shits out mortal wounds everywhere

>>55039475
ah nice, hopefully the phoenix gets that treatment too

>>55039497
It's shit. It's complete and utter shit.

We have one battalion, and that battalion grants autopass morale checks on rolls of 1-3, and re-roll hit rolls of 1. Do those benefits both sound familiar? And that battalion costs 160 pts.

Not to mention our allies list is more stupid limitations. I can't even ally with freeguild, despite in the fluff them being our most common ally.

I am frankly quite disappointed with it overall.

>>55039491
new blood bowl model. its not out yet

>>55039300
>3 nerds sitting around talking warhams
>all have jobs
>all are married
>some have kids
>all have painted armies and game all the time
Whats your excuse?

>>55039555
That's what I'm saying--that Battalion is literally the new allegiance abilities. So what will the battalion do now that justifies spending 160 points?
Wildstalker Brayherd gave ambush and I think +1 to hit or something like that--if ALL Brayherds now have Ambush, what will Wildstalker do to justify the point cost? That's what I'm curious about.

>>55039502
Kroaks command ability isnt very useful since you cant reroll turn order rolls any more. You can bring another slann as your general and dedicated summoner.

The slann constellation is another +1 to casting and you can take either reroll cast1 trait to make him a very reliable summoner, or give him the trait that lets him cast the skink spells so he has more utility after you finish summoning your army

Summoning the army is a great way to keep your deployments down and react to whatever your opponent is bringing. One of the weaknesses of the Kroak list is that you had to spend all your spells and didn't have a lot of room for summoning units. Seraphon are a great toolbox army and being able to summon in counters to protect Kroak is going to make the list more powerful... and it's easy to summon when you have +2 to cast (constellation + astrolith) and reroll 1s from the command trait.

Enemy brought a lot of 3+ saves? Salamanders can punch through that. Mass infantry? Razordons can chew through it. High rend? Bastiladon. Fast army? Terradons. Artillery? Chameleon Skinks. Lots of small units? Bastiladon with sneks.

Also slann + kroak is SEVEN unbinds from anywhere on the board. That's just 10/10 trolling right there

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So someone leaked the lizards, can we see the pestilens? I know it's probably just us getting cucked again, but I just need to know for sure

>>55039628
Well apparently the euro playtesters think that getting an extra relic and being able to deploy the entire battalions contents in one drop, which helps to ensure you get the first turn, is worth the 160 points. Which is completely dumb.

>>55039674

Fair, I wasn't considering running 2 Slann, sounds pricey.

Although the thought of submitting a list to a tournament of just 2 Slann, a balewind, and the rest as a summoning pool is hilarious.

How much is a regular Slann now?

>>55039858
Still 260.
But Kroak went down i think.

>>55039858

Forgot battleline, but skinks are cool anyway.

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Whomever is the kind sir posting the scan; pls pls pls post the fyreslayers alligance abilities and such (dissposesed if possible too). Im just starting a fyreslayers army and im dying to know how they turned up. Heres my pappy just to share the love...

>>55037314
Fyreslayers shit too please.

>>55037314
Do Moonclan still have their old batallion?

>>55037314
Pestilens yes-yes?

>>55039858
180 for 3x 10 skinks
450 for kroak
260 for slann
= 890
you can summon the rest, but i would probably bring a bastiladon because theyre tougher to summon

have someone scanned the battletomes? I would love to have the Sylvaneth artefacts,

>>55040195
>this
Look in the OP, or better yet, the OP for /40kg/

>>55040195

https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

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I'm sitting with GH2 and can post pictures if someone wishes to know something.

Also - I have a question about Morbidex Twiceborn. Do I have to spent points for the Nurglings that he spawns? Is the unit then limited to what I spent point on? What if the unit dies? Can he then spawn them again?

>>55040319
Pos all the Death stuff.

>>55040319
Wanderers and Nighthaunt allegiance abilities please - I want to know if they will get some new good stuff for skirmish

>>55040319

Man, as i said:

pls pls pls post the fyreslayers alligance abilities, new battalions and such (dissposesed if possible too). Im just starting a fyreslayers army and im dying to know how they turned up.

Be a buddy...