Red flags

>>55005742

The first one makes my blood boil. Double so for clerics.

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>>55005742
>Clerics always carry maces.

>>55005742
>playing a race that isn't in a pre-4E players handbook

>>55005742
>Posting about red flags on /tg/ as the fun police

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>>55005851

That also makes me rage.

>>55005814
well, i used to play a Death Cleric in 5e with a Halberd, so there's that. also, Clerics tend to be the Blunt weapon users by definition, the Fighters are Slashing weapon users and Rangers uses Piercing, it's just how things normally happen most of the time because a party has to have split of damage types among themselves

>>55005742
>"Can I be from this setting's Japan?"

My worlds don't have a "Japan" for this very reason.

>Featuring the art of Wayne Reynolds

>>55005742
>not liking paladin of freedom
>not liking 5e's paladins that can actually be fun instead of Lawful Stupid

>>55005742
Feel like the rogue one is a good change of pace, especially if they don't end up stealing from the party because "I got here first."

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>>55005742
>City guards are angry and easily corruptible

>>55005983
Then you're just a knight with a strong sense of a certain ideal, not a paladin.

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>>55005742
>Player provides character art
>It's drawn in manga/anime style

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>>55006117
>Player provides character art
>We're not playing online and have actual minis

>>55005742
Barbarians with anger management issues

>>55006166
>using minis

>>55005950
Fair enough. Is there a way in your settings for me to be a stranger in a strange land?

>>55006331
>No?
>Eisenhower?
>James Dean?

>reee rogues are supposed to be penny pinching thieves exclusively
>FUCKING ASSHOLE THIEF STOLE MY GOLD

>>55005742
>>55006018

Isn't 5e pretty explicit about the ideals and quests of a paladin being much more important that worship?

>>55005742
>Vegetarian Druids
This is the only one that makes no sense. The other two are just spergrage

>>55006370
>stranger in a strange land
>thinking it's originally from the song
[REEEEEEEEing in Heinlein]

So is this the thread for actual pathetic autism, or is it ironic pathetic autism?

>>55006430
>implying that's the source
[screeching in Jahwe]

>>55006386
5e is the best thing that happened to paladins

>>55006166
What's wrong with that? Do you have 3-D printed custom minis for every character you play or something?

>>55006469
Actual autism looks like.

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The problem with paladins is that they are based on chivalrous Christian knights who lived in a monotheistic world. Therefore, there's no question of who they worship - everyone in their universe worships God or is a pagan/Mohammedan enemy. D&D paladins exist in a tolerant polytheistic setting, so to make them work they either "worship" an ideal or are transformed into the military wing of whatever temple they belong to. It's not a neat fit.

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>>55005742
>fantasy setting
>player asks if their character's mortal enemy can be Communism

>>55006166
>player brings own minis
>they're just moe anime figures
>some have clearly been hotglued in the past

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>>55005742
>"It's not a fetish! It makes her unique. "

>>55005742
>absolutely refuses to bring snacks.
>unless they're Mexican. Then bringing snacks is the red flag.

>>55006380
>playing as or letting others play as a lolrundumb sneak

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>Player designs PC to antagonize other group members(dogmatic clerics, kender, etc)
>Player calls his character a "build" like the game is a CCG or MMO
>DM uses the terms "dark" or "gritty" to describe his setting

>>55005742
What's wrong with vegetarian druid?

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>>55006611
>fantasy setting
>player asks if their mortal enemy can be capitalism

>>55005814
Anti undead, you fool.

>>55006018
Which is a paladin. Pay attention

>>55005742
>>55005814
>>55005851
All of those are completely fine; you have Asperger's syndrome.

>>55005851

This is my favorite way to weed out players. Ask them about what kind of character they'd be in a game. The ones who want to be minotaurs, psionicists, half-ghosts and other stupid shit don't get invited. I like modern systems but for fantasy settings I'm definitely fond of the retro/80's feel.

>>55005742
>>55006018
>What's a paladin?

>>55005742
Yeah thats a big red flag, I totally wouldn't invite you to my games

Had red flags became "totally pointless and meaningless situations that make me sperg" instead of actual problems?

>>55005742
>>55005756
You're both fundamentally wrong. Paladins are based on Arthurian legend and the Song of Roland. They literally get their power from devotion to Chivalry, which is an ideal.

Suck a dick with this 3.5/Pathfinder bullshit about Paladins being warrior priests, that's what Clerics were always meant to be.

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>Only plays one system.

This indicates a powergaming autist who isn't comfortable unless he's playing something he knows inside and out. Next him.

>Offers to play anything.

Like, you really have no opinions about controversial games like FATE, 4E D&D, Shadowrun, GURPs, etc?

The problem with people who are thirsty for any game is that they'll join games they won't enjoy and drag the other players down. Had this happen in an L5R game once. I stressed the game was about working in an embassy in a major city. Some DnD/MtG/X-wing guy begged to join, made a fighting character with a bunch of social disadvantages, then complained that there wasn't much combat. Never again.

>>55007002
You know what's the funny part? you can totally worship ideals in 3.PF

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>fighters are always sword and board ex-soldiers

Fighters are the most open ended fucking class for all sorts of combinations and ideas, why do people ALWAYS go for the "I was a soldier in the kings army!!" Meme???

>>55006953
>implying you have players at all

>>55006999
Red flags were never problems; if they were, they'd just be called problems. Red flags are things that are not serious issues by themselves, but act as a signifier for much worse behavior down the road.

I do not care if you want your character to have heterochromia. I do care that your character will likely be an obnoxious two-dimensional pile of spotlight-stealing snowflake traits.
I do not care if you your cleric worships "that death god." I do care that your cleric will be a tone-killing Cold Steel asshole and that you can't be bothered to remember or write down your own patron's name.
I do not care if your car or truck is covered hood-to-ass in political bumperstickers. I do care that you will probably derail games and start drama over politics while everyone else just wants to be a space-elf star-wizard.

The red flag itself is not the problem, just like the warning light in your car is not the problem. The actual problem is when you start getting shot at or your engine explodes.

>>55006953
The only one of these gay races I'll tolerate is the Warforged. They're cool.

>>55007054
What if someone isn't familiar with 4e, Fate, Shadowrun or Gurps?

Not everyone reads up on tons of different systems.

>>55007072

Hilarious how invoking older editions is always out of the editions virtually noone plays anymore.

Paladins worshiping a "God" is a Holdover from AD&D 1st Edition, and D&D Basic, even 2nd Edition doesn't require them to be part of the church, only that they not be "Evil"

>>55007134
It's always either that or
>ex-gladiator/pit fighter

>>55007134
Let's not forget
>Survivor of a slaughtered town militia/country family

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>>55006823
>player asks if their mortal enemy can be capitalism

>>55006953
>banning minotaurs
for what purpose? I can understand the other shit, but what's wrong with those?

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>>55007054
>Only plays one system.
>This indicates a powergaming autist who isn't comfortable unless he's playing something he knows inside and out.

Sometimes, but I think more often it just indicates laziness. Most of the people I've met who only play one system, especially the DnD players, aren't so much convinced its good as they've just never tried anything else and see it as a pointless bother.

>>55007238
>>55007255
I think my favorite pc fighter I had in a game was this dude who might as well have been a rogue- he was really good at first strike sucker punch style attacks and could also use anything as a weapon, but he was fairly unrefined and untrained so after the first blows had been struck it turned into rabid swinging and hoping for the best- and his backstory was that he was just a bar brawler who picked up a big sword one day. It wasn't super original but it was still a breath of fresh air compared to the endless legions of ex-soldiers who were all cynical and gritty and badass 24/7.

>>55007199

Yeah, I like them too, even though I haven't touched the Eberron stuff. Always liked the trope of the artificial new race trying to find a place in the world. Data from Star Trek, Neo-Sapiens from Exo-Squad, etc.

>>55007264

I guess it just seems silly to me. Towering monster with an IQ equivalent of 60 that should send commoners fleeing in terror acting like a normal hero(meeting in taverns, doing missions for the local lord, etc).

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>>55006285
>Lore not being the exact way I want it to be in a setting that I didn't make
>Getting pissed that people play races in ways I don't like in games I'm not in

>>55006953
>le quirky 80's retro faux nostalgia
kys

>>55007309

DnD always seems to attract that type. I hate that shit. Sometimes I'm in the mood for sci-fi or horror or cyberpunk It's fun to break out Dread for Halloween. Or do a one-shot of a new system. Anyone who just wants to play 3.5 for the 10th time probably isn't a good fit for my group.

Honestly I'd rather teach a normie to game than try to retrain a DnD-only guy.

>>55007134
Well, you need a backstory that
>Explains where you learned to fight competently because you took a class dedicated to fighting.
>Isn't too extreme because you're still level 1 (usually).
>Lets you fuck off and start adventuring instead of living a more stable life.

It also depends on what the players are given to work-with setting wise. Settings abound with magical colleges, thieves' guilds, and similar things, but there's normally fuck all for men and women that have strength in their swordarm and enough sense to put on decent armor.

>>55006285

Non-human races just end up as roleplaying straightjackets 90% of the time. You can be a human archer who feels at home in the woods, but chances are you aren't going to see many elf industrialists who view urbanization and exploitation of the land as good things.

>>55005742

I don't mind the first one as long as it's still on the same level of devotion as a god based faith.

Bretonnians worship the concept of chivalry with the lady as it's gatekeeper

What I don't like are Paladins who are basically just "I'm a good guy and protagonist thus I have holy powers" like most JRPG paladins

>>55005742
>Thinks there's something wrong with having an organization where the person in charge isn't the most powerful/skilled.

This seems to be especially bad in fantasy settings with thieves and wizard's guilds.

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>>55007446
I think it could be done. Honestly I think culture and race should be separated, while the biological traits of a race may influence how they interact with the world, no reason they shouldn't gain cultural information from other nearby cultures.

>>55006117
Depends on how animu it is. I'd be fine if the style was similar to Berserk, Planetes Claymore or Vagabond
Though if it looks like Boku No Pico or some moeblob shit like that I'd be a bit disapointed

>>55007159
>Red flags are things that are not serious issues by themselves, but act as a signifier for much worse behavior down the road.
>Being a non scumy, cunty rogue is a redflag
I still don't get what a redflag is

So not behaving badly is a bad behaviour?

>>55007642
Not him, but it's a fairly straightforward concept.. They are not behaviors that are in and of themselves bad. They are, however, behaviors that people who do them will likely do OTHER, actually bad behaviors.

You walk into a library room and you see someone reading Mein Kampf and holding a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Do you know he's a neo-nazi? Not really, but the odds of that guy being one are way higher than just a random guy on the street.

>>55005742
Paladins who worship ideals rather than deities are cancerous, and vegetarian anything is a soft red flag, but rogues who aren't scummy? Fuck off.

>>55007199
I actually sorta like the dragonborn, too, and how they COULD fit into a setting with a caste-based dragon society, such as with dragons at the top, kobolds as the workers, dragonborn as the warrior caste. Shit like that.

I just fucking hate how dragonborn was so nonsensically forced into everything, including the Forgotten Realms, and how tieflings are now some kind of fucking half-demon-but-still-somehow-standard race.

The way half-orcs are now also some kind of base race that's somehow common is also all kinds of fucking what.

>>55007642
In that specific context, one of OP's red flags is rogues not acting like (he thinks) rogues should act. I honestly don't really get it, but maybe he's had a bad experience with people acting out of character or people picking rogue what they actually want to play a different class?

>>55007702
>reading Mein Kampf and holding a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Do you know he's a neo-nazi? Not really, but the odds of that guy being one are way higher than just a random guy on the street.
But that's straightforward
Going into a library, watching a dude read a dictionary and assuming he's a neo nazi because that isn't and OP's "redflags" are similar to this example, in what world a non scumy and cunt rogue is a redflag?

>>55007702
>You walk into a library room and you see someone reading Mein Kampf and holding a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
That's, like, the opposite of a red flag.

That's said, being a non-scummy non-cunty rogue is pretty much the furthest from a red flag there is, too, and I have no idea why it would be.

>>55007642
Nah, OP's just a faggot.

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>>55005742
>Players want to find wives/husbands for thier characters

>Player kills his family/loved ones in his backstory
Fuck this shit, how am I supposed to rise the stakes if he already has his family dead?

>>55007810
Rogues are really fucking open-ended, though. They're not just thieves. They're pretty much anything that's street-smart and that fights dirty.

This thread has made me want to play a good-aligned, religious rogue.

>>55006953
It's hard to shovel out all the snowflakes. I have a player who usually plays normal races but bases every single character on exploiting some weird glitch in the rules, then gets mad when I houserule it away or have the enemies do the same thing to him in return.

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>Using archaic spelling

>>55007867
He didn't get all of them and the survivors want blood.

>>55007867
Their souls are summoned and are used to haunt him forever unless he destroy them

>>55007867
>Why are his family dead? I wanted to be the one who kills them
Fuck you, you're the reason so many players start with their loved ones already dead.

>>55005742
>non-scummy Rogues

I see nothing wrong with this. They could easily be flavored as especially sneaky scouts, maybe they even know some Ranger friends from that job.

>>55007849
>Players want to find wives/husbands for thier characters
Why would that be a bad motivation for PC?
More than one of my characters wanted to find someone to settle down with and live normal live after all of this bullshit ends.

>Happy backstory
>Has a deep dark secret that will change everything

>>55008001
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't inject their own preferences, not using the PC's.

>>55005742

This is one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a long, long time.

>>55007867
Don't worry, you can kill their spouses! >>55008001

>>55006804
A human being a vegetarian is not natural.

Druids worship Nature.

>>55008142
Building cities is natural or humans, urban druids are best druids

>>55008142
Ummm, think again sweetie. It has been scientifically proven that humans don't need meat. ;)

>>55008174
b8

>>55006953
Psionicists have been a thing in OD&D.

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>>55008174
0/10

>>55008142
Druid magic pacts are weird. If your pact requires you harm no animal, it's the vegan life for you. If your pact requires you harm no plant? Welcome to cannibalism.

>>55005742
>frequents 4chan
The only one I've ever needed really.

>>55005742
>Tying paladins to worship

So you are a shit player/GM then?

>>55008005
>Gets killed on session no 5, deep secret never gets used

or

>never uses deep dark secret and it stops being relevant

>>55008305
What the fuck is the point of being a divine class if you don't actually need to relate to divinity. Muh idealism shit was a cop out so atheists and christians who might be uncomfortable/unwilling to play pretend worship could play Clerics instead of just killing a sacred cow.

>>55008280
As long as you personally aren't the one doing the harvesting/butchering, wouldn't both of those technically count as carrion?

>>55008142
Every table is free to decide the articles of faith of druids in their setting. Maybe druids are prohibited from eating meat, lest it be one of their brothers, transformed. Maybe they serve the wild god of the hunt, who doesn't allow his servants to sup on the same flesh he does except for at certain key ceremonies. Maybe your druid is under geas. To insist all druids be the same is a bigger red flag than to allow some to be vegetarians.

>>55008260

As I recall, they were optional in 2E and didn't really gel with the rest of the classes. You had a point system instead of vancian magic and a separate mental armor class.

Setting-wise, they didn't really fit in except in settings where they were a core component and there were lots of psionic monsters(Dark Sun).

It's also, for whatever reason, a That Guy bait, just like Kender, grappler builds, etc.

>>55008039
You don't come here often, do you?

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>the PC is a lesbian

>>55008340
That's actually a very good question.

>>55007134
>>55007394
I once had a shit ton of fun playing as a farm boy turned fighter. He had trained with the local militia, but was stricken with wander lust. He wanted to go see the world and make something of himself. So he did.

It's unfortunate that the other three players in the group made conflicted characters with tragic backstories.

>>55008343
They showed up in OD&D along with Mindflayers and other monsters. You are right they are an optional rule in 2e.

I disagree on the point that they don't gel well with fantasy settings. They can gel just find it's just that people don't really try and it all to often was added as an after thought. Psionics worked great in 3.5(fuck they were ACTUALLY BALANCED casters) and 4e.
>that guy bait
I've honestly seen the opposite, people ridiculously opposed to Psionics tend to be really annoying wanabee grognards in my opinion.

>>55005742
I think characters that at every scarily non-human

>does he have any hobbies?
Killing

It's like just stupid. Every character should have their little guilty pleasure

>>55008342
>God of the Hunt
Maybe some druids can only eat the meat of things they've killed.

>>55008375
>the PC is a lesbian
expand it to:
>sexuality is major part of character
or:
>character have strong and vocal opinion on real world controversial topics

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>player wants to design their own region of the world
>running a pretty relaxed homebrew world that really only has the immediate area written up, so why not?
>a few days later, get a fifty page document from him
>He's from not!Vietnam, where children are kidnapped and infused with weird dark magic to turn them into undead suicide bombers
>Explicitly states in document that age of consent is 12
>Is playing a 12 year old (apparently)
>mfw

players are a mistake

>>55008460
Why?

Why would you do that

I mean the GM is giving you a chance to design a section of the map, at least make something cool

>>55008415
Maybe some can only eat the diet of their patron animal spirit, whose form they can take. Maybe some have grown so close to the tree spirits that they subsist as plants do, on rain and sunlight and good earth.

>>55006430
>>55006472
>these sick references
[Groks internally]

>>55008401
Players like that tend to be either new, or raised by GM's who penalize them for acting like regular people in any possible way.

Go to the bank? It gets robbed and everyone inside dies except you. Write a letter to your sister? She never reads it because a necromancer drafted her into her zombie army. Go fishing? Giant carp of death because your GM loves DorfFort.

>>55008336
You are being pedantic about playing pretend, anon, on top of not knowing how faith and power in D&D settings work.
>>55008451
I got shit from a player for using African mythology in my game (likely because I'm black) and got looked at because I played a black muslim wizard in a Dresden Files game based in Detroit, the birthplace of the black muslim movement (and even the author of Dresden Files makes mention of black muslims in his series based in Chicago, the second major stronghold). I really didn't get it, we don't bring politics to the table, I didn't expound about the evil of the spawn of Yakub or rip on the player whose pc was a cop for existing.

>>55008489

I really wish I still had that document so I could post it. I started out pretty bad and I was having trouble getting through it, but then I came to the undead suicide bombing, and I knew I just had to get through it. Other gems included:
>Women-only warrior caste, who use exclusively whips in combat
>ruled by some weird magic supercomuter that enables a perfect communist utopia where everyone is perfectly provided for (then why is there a civil war?)
>oh yeah, a civil war about nothing. literally just fighting
>religion is outlawed, punishable by death
>names of characters stuff like "Non-Pek-Won-Mang" (that's the only one I remember, but they were all dumb)

It was way too though out to be written just for this campaign, but not thought out or coherent enough to be well written to any degree.

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>>55008401

>>55008609
>Black muslim wizard

Dude, I gotta try that when I make another charater, that sound awesome

>>55008630
badshadowrunplayers.png

>historical setting pre industrial revolution
>women's rights

>>55008389
How tragic?

>ask dm what dieties are in his setting
>Dm says pick any from any setting

>>55008659
Cthulhu fhtagn!!

>>55008645
depends on which bit of history you're looking at and which part of the world, tho
and also whether you want to have female PCs be at all viable or whether you're willing to handwave it some to make the game play better.

>>55005742
>Hey guys I have this idea for a campaign I'd like to try.
All of his 'campaigns' last one session before he gets burnt out and forgets about it.
>This time it will be different! I promise.

>>55008342
Sure you can subvert druids by making them vegetarian or be fine with deforestation and industry. Cities are human Nature after all.

Anything is possible in games.

>>55008707
I have to make really quality things or I get bored really quickly.

It's why my characters are really well written. They are the only character out of thousands to make the cut

>>55008659
I once asked a DM what my worship options were in his setting. He did the most marvelous thing...

He asked me what domains I wanted to use for my cleric, then added a God to his setting that had those domains. He fleshed it out (it had about a page of information) then added it to an existing pantheon.

I miss that DM, he was always so reasonable and creative.

>>55008744
That's actually pretty rad

>>55008641
It actually was a lot of fun.
He specialized in earth magic and small enchantments, like uparmoring his suit and making his bowtie a conduit for wind magic, but he was more a community organizer than anything else, using his magic to quietly repair decrepit home as he went door to door selling bean pies and final call newspapers by day, security details at community events by afternoons, and burying fae scum with iron rebar at night.

>>55008765
>iron rebar
>Not using silver flakes and salt mixture

>>55008691
I just want my historical setting to be historical, even if that means that they'll be politically incorrect for nowadays therms.

>>55008780
That burns fae, anon.
Impaling and burying them with rebar kills them dead. I actually ended up getting the whole group in hot water with the Winter Court because I killed a pack of hounds that the Erlking favored. They tried to burn down my mosque.

>>55008817
Did you explain to them about the historical motes, anon?
I mean, even then, there were people who sued for some manner of equality, and it actually happened post Black Plague (if we are talking about Europe) until the gentry struck back with vengeance.

>>55008822
The meanest one is to make an iron coffin with the inside covered with salt and silver

The faerie can never touch the sides and so must fly for enternity or die.

For the really special fae

>>55007002
>Paladins are based on Arthurian legend and the Song of Roland. They literally get their power from devotion to Chivalry, which is an ideal.

What? No. Have you actually read La Chanson de Roland or Le Morte d'Arthur? Arthur's knights weren't paladins, for one thing: that was a term used specifically for Charlemagne's twelve companions. They didn't get any kind of specific power from chivalry; chivalry was just a code of conduct. Charlemagne's paladins were servants of God and of their king, not of an ideal. God might have help empower them to massacre thousands of treacherous Saracen dogs, but everything they did was for God and their king. To the poets of medieval France, ideals and God were inseparable in any case.

>>55008336
Why is it a divine class? I'm not playing some shitty DnD. Paladin is just a name for honorable knight who upholds virtues of chivalry. Not my fault you have such a narrow mind you can't disconnect that from some religious bullshit.

>>55005742
>Posts "Red flags" threads on 4chan.

>>55008867
That takes money and more prep time than most neophyte wizards possess, on top of having to get the fucker into the thing.
Fairies are stronk in Dresden Files, anon, I dealt mostly with malevolent small fry. When the Erlking, maybe the fourth most powerful pf the Winter Court, sent me a missive declaring he had problems with me, I shat a house.
My pc was not Dresden.

>>55008926
Yea keep /tg/ secret

I don't care what you like(furries, mlp, etc) just keep it to yourself

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>Male player turns up with a female character
>She just coincidentally happens to have every feature and mannerism of his "Type"
>Plays her as the STRONK GRRRRL OUT TO PROVE GIRLS CAN DO IT TOO

>>55008937
If faerie are so scared of iron so you think they have issues with magnets?

Could you keep one away with a electromagnet?

>>55008845
>The setting is gonna be [insert place and time period] take this in mind when making characters and thinking about equipment, because I am autistic and get triggered about historical mistakes.

>>55005742
>Race=culture

>wants to play a monk
>wants to play a tiefling or an aasimar

>>55008142
I honestly don't blame a Druid for being a vegan. Would you really want to eat an animal that you can turn into? Not based on a moral standpoint, but just because of how weird it'd feel?

>>55008996
I think the half races are worse than the plane-born anon.

Why ever be a half-elf?

>>55008966
Depends on the electromagnet, not all are steel or iron based, and it requires physical contact or sympathetic magic.
>>55008983
Anon, no need to be a cunt. If you are basing something directly on real life, use the themes, just make sure everyone is on the same page.
I once ran a WoD game and spoke to my players individually, warning them that mature, at times grotesque, themes would be present, and there was something they were not uncomfortable with, let me know and I would strike it because I want them to have fun, too.
All my players were cool with it and trusted me to do right by them.
Then I gave the female nurse a rape scare so serious the entire table was on edge.

>>55008997
Yes. It wouldn't feel weird to anyone who wasn't raised with Didney movies.

>>55009022
>Why ever be a half-elf?

For those sweet, sweet racial features.

>>55008845
Is >>55008983 clear enough?

>>55005742
>one race is morally superior and everyone loves them

>>55009064
I think my followup >>55009055 says it all.
>stop being a cunt, make sure everyone knows what the deal is and have fun

>>55009064
Probably not as not historian may not know well enough what you mean by that.
Also in any [insert place and time period] there would be exceptions to general rule and in preindustrial time we should speak about regional differences that could be drastic in relatively small area.

>>55009084
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't think of it as being a cunt, hopefully my games are even more fun in the future

>>55008451

Lesbians specifically are the worst. No exception.

>>55009133
If you don't know a lot about the setting you just google it right? A little meta gaming has no harm

>>55009183
What I mean is don't sperg out because an individual in the setting has their own ideas about how shit should be.
If the player takes umbrage, then there was a disconnect somewhere that should have been resolved before they made their pc.
>>55009210
The player should understand the setting norms, as their character indeed would. That's not metagaming.

>>55009058
I was saying that as somebody that eats a lot of meat :^). I would just understand a druid of all people deciding to opt for veganism, as dumb as I think it is for most other people.

I know you people are tipping your anti-fedoras, but Paladins being warrior priests is a retarded idea invented by Pathfinder and /tg/ memers that makes them no different from clerics flavor wise. They're typically religious because believing in god is part of the chivalric ideal that they embody. They don't HAVE to, and they definitely don't have to be tied to a god. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Paladins who worship ideals, in fact a Paladin who worships the chivalric ideal is closest to the core concept and inspiration of the class.

>>55008996
why is monk a red flag? genuinely curious.

>>55009210
>We are playing in late medieval Europe
How would I google what that means?

Even more concrete "Revolutionary France" is vague. Directorate? Jacobin Terror? Napoleon? Paris? Vendee? Netherlands?
Each of place and time periods have different social norms.
And if I have to google it, my knowledge will be lacking at best.

Infinite ammo hax NPC's and inconsistent loot descriptions do NOT make your games more enjoyable.

>>55006859
>>55006960
A Paladin is an individual dedicated to the eradication of Evil, following a very strict code of conduct from which the deviation will see him stripped of his powers, depending on gravity. He pays homage to a God of Law and/or Good, exhibits his patron's tenets as much as his code allows and may also be stripped of his holy gifts if he fails to behave as an exemplar of his church.

Fuck the "paladins" of fee fees.

>>55009250
Cannibalism is rampant in the animal kingdom, and humainty is really the only species that has a legitimate problem with it. I wasn't saying Disny movies encourage people to not eat meat, I was saying it teaches them to empathize with and anthropomorphize creatures. A horse doesn't care if it eats a dead foal. Why would a druid?

>>55009384
>GM: I hate bookkeeping.

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>Somebody rolls a samurai
>Another person immediately goes off on one about how samurai don't belong in a European fantasy setting
>Would rather completely defeat the purpose of "fantasy" and keep sticking to the same overdone tropes than expand out even slightly

>>55009315
Some anons have problems with how D&D presents monks as something different from stock European fantasy, despite D&D never being European fantasy and always drawing from a number of mythologies and butchering them.
>>55009406
Thank you for your opinion, have a nice day.

>>55009446
Don't cows get some bad brain problems from eating other cows?

>>55009406
>I only know about Paladin what I read in the first 3 paragraphs of the 3.5 description, never bothered continuing reading
Kay

>>55009598
Mad cow disease is "theorized" to be the result of feeding cows calcium supplements made from bone meal, and with most species, cannibalism is a last ditch, not a primary foodstuff.

>>55009598
Some do. Cows are also very, very fucking stupid. Stupider than sheep, even, and sheep can be herded by a dog that doesn't look like a wolf, because they think it's a wolf.

That's how stupid cows are.

>>55009567
I personally find the D&d version of monks to be the least interesting. But it's not bad if others want to play one.

>30 minutes into a new campaign
>"I attack the city guards."

>>55009674
I feel they didn't get them right in actual practice till 4e, where high mobility fisticuffs and tricky maneuvers were not merely possible, but built into the system as an option.
Watching a player dragon kick a dragon trying to escape from 40' away while yelling "Kuradoberi Jam will not let you escape aru~!" (and killing it) will stay with me forever.

>>55005983
>Lawful Stupid
>unfun

Party betraying, thieving, duplicitous piece of shit detected.

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>>55005742
>Paladins who worship ideals

Yeah, just look at all those mentions of worshiping Deities, and how it never once mentions ideals in the old material.

You know what my red flag is?
>Cites something new introduced in 3e as though it were a sacred cow.

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>>55008954
>tfw you secretly did this with your friends but nobody noticed
>tfw you're gaming with your girlfriend now
>tfw she rolls a character that's almost identical to one you've made before

>>55008817
fair enough. Some players won't like that.
I know I prefer my games to be about cool adventures and not a bleak exploration of Man's Inhumanity To Man.

>>55006209
Not using minis is gay as fuck. Get on my level, fucking casuals.

>>55009868
>doesnt have a good enough imagination to know how the battlefield is set up just from the dms description

lmao

>>55009796
I had a player quit my game when I called him out privately for always making scaly or black musclegirl pcs.
>>55009831
I feel you on this. A game is many things, I'm currently running a big damn hero D&D game, high risk/reward rule of cool sonic electronic ballbreaker team of ultimate badasses (who die often).

>>55005814
you stupid fool, a mace crushes bones

>>55007773
human woman all want the BOC

>>55009885
pretty much. If you want to run a game in a setting where real-world inspired prejudices are a thing, that takes the game tonally in a somewhat more dark and nasty direction than is conducive to stuff I'd enjoy.
Like, just let me play as a chainmail-bikini-clad barbarian princess without making this about gender politics, you know?

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>>55008375
>The PC is hetero

>>55009948
>not being an asexual 7 ft calcium man

Get on my level

>>55009881
do people really play fantasy like this?

I mean I can understand it if we are playing a Super Hero game.

>>55006166
I have a couple "generic" sort of tokens and minis, but it's sometimes nice to be able to see what they actually look like, instead of Generic Fighter, or Horse (one of my buddies really likes using the horse mini as his character)

>>55007365
kYsslab.

>>55009446
Horses are herbivores

>>55009406
I agree that being beholden only to some dubious ideals is stupid, but the idea that only lawful good gods can have knights dedicated to them is equally stupid.

At the very least non-chaotic gods should be able to have paladins, gods of Law or Civilizations should absolutely have paladins even if they aren't good deities.

Simply making every evil paladin a blackguard is stupid because if the paladin was always serving evil he never "fell" since we was bad from the start. Making him a fallen paladin makes no sense if there was no fall

>>55009973
Depends on the game.
For shit where movement and placement is fairly important, I'd rather use a map and minis.
Not all games need them.
As usual, there is no one true way, and anyone espousing that is a waste of vaginal douche.

>>55010012
Why do they eat mice then?

>>55010012
A cute animal dies in this video. Watch till the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYNmGMsU18

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Scrub here, how does this look for my first khorne berzerker conversion? Does it look lazy?

>Characters perform illegal action, such as murder
>Dome time later, they discover a hit squad on their ass
>Player salt levels are critical

There are numerous ways to solve murders in a magic rich setting. The murderers being adventurers makes it almost guaranteed they'll get bounty hunters or a kill squad sent after them.

It's almost like actions have consequences, who'd have thought?

>>55010147
I like it, paint it well.
Blood for the Blood God, brother, even if I'm a dirty Ultramarine player destined to beat you down.

>>55007380
>>55007309
That's because WoTC is teaching a really bad mindset for tabletop wherein every game is like playing a fucking MMO.

I thought Adventure League sounded hype- being able to have a place to game can be a huge barrier.

got there, and it's 8 fucks whose first response to any situation is 'I stab it and loot it, time for the next room'.

>>55009885
I could camouflage it well enough because each character was pretty different, but if my friends knew what I liked they'd probably call me out on any female character I made.

t. guy with broad interests

>>55007446
>but chances are you aren't going to see many elf industrialists who view urbanization and exploitation of the land as good things.

I played that in my last game. It was fun.

But I like playing non-humans.

>>55010165
>Characters perform illegal action, such as murder
Where there any witnesses?
>Dome time later, they discover a hit squad on their ass
How did they discover it? did you give them the proper information for them to understand what happened and what they did wrong (besides committing murder)?
>Player salt levels are critical
How did you deal with it?

>>55008997
Or even worse, one you can talk to. Isn't Speak to animals a lower level spell?

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>>55005742
>DnD faggots bloating the board with their ultra specific meme threads

>>55007054
>offers to play anything
I'll check out any system I'm not familiar with, and if it doesn't seem immediately terrible (FATAL), I'll at least give it a shot. I played about 2 sessions of Shadowrun before realizing I wasn't really going to enjoy it and politely leaving that game.

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>>55005742
>PC is very clearly stolen from another piece of media; acts nothing like the source material
>PC is named after an anime character
>PC is named after two anime characters

>>55010012
"Herbivore" does not mean "vegetarian".

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>>55010265

>>55009446
Yeah, but the druid is a human being and might in fact have a problem with cannibalism. I'm not saying that ALL DRUIDS should be vegan, I'm saying that I would totally understand if there was a druid that was vegan.

>>55005756
You have shit taste.

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>>55008142
>>55008997
This is exactly DC's Beast Boy's reason for being a vegetarian honestly.
I think he even blatantly says that line.

>>55005814
It's meant to be used in a way that no blood would be spilled.

>name 3 potentially fine things under the pretense that they are red flags
>pose as someone who actually believes this
>collect free (you)s
>it clearly worked

>>55010711
You've learned the secret my friend. /tg/ is a cabal of a handful of people pretending to be everyone you see here.

>>55010075
Pure hatred.

>>55005742
>Paladins who worship ideals
i fight for truth, and i will serve all the gods who support it, whether it be all of them, or none of them
>Rogues , not thieves, who don't steal and aren't scummy
could be like a privateer, only taking chartered jobs on behalf of a legitmate authority

or follow the PHB and become a hardcore rat catcher
>Vegetarian Druids
its understandable not to eat things that you have turned into, rule of sympathy and all that
you could go on full nature ghandi with your druid

>>55010242
One man, a coward, ran at the start of the fight. They never attempted to pursue him. As for the victim, he was a well liked and wealthy merchant (guess why they killed him). A cleric was brought in to use Speak With Dead. Furthermore, it was known he had asked them to visit him on the night of the murder.

After they left they carried on as usual, not even bothering to hide their whereabouts. It's like they thought the world beyond their vision existed in stasis, that the only events in all the universe were the ones in their presence. I dont think they had the idea that things might happen with them not around.

In any case, I threw them a bone and had an old contact warn them that a bounty had been set on them and that a kill squad was on its way. They figured "oh hey, another levelled encounter, more loot an xp". So I threw them ANOTHER bone and had the contact warn them that the merchants guild wasn't taking any chances, if they stayed to fight they'd die.

This is where the salt really started. The idea I'd send something after them that they couldn't fight seemed offensive to two of them. Thankfully they decided to flee the city. If they hadn't, they have been learning their lesson while rolling new characters.

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>''can I play [non-human race]?''

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>>55011017
>''can I play female [non-human race]?''

>>55006730
Kek

>He is strong/fast/magical
>His goal is to be stronger/faster/magicaler
>No matrer the consequences

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>Any kind of lone wolf "I'm tagging along with the group but don't consider myself a member" attitude
>Amnesia(aka, I don't want to have a backstory)
>Zero care what anyone else is playing(it's best to straddle a line between someone being forced to be "healing bitch" and having a party of 2 wizards, 1 sorcerer, and 1 rogue)
>ca/tg/irl who wants to introduce anthro elements, Weaboo/Koreaboo stuff, or a rape backstory. You have been warned.

>>55009652
That's what happens when you take a wild cattle, that's not exactly known for massive intelligence, and shrink it's brain by 1/3 via infantilistic neotheny, adaptation to crowded spaces, and dependancy to man, so the beast won't murder your ass.

>>55011311
>>55006823
>>55008375
>>55008460
>>55010382

Seconding all of these, anybody who commits these should be beaten, viciously and left out to fend for themselves.

>>55011131
>>55011017
>asking permission to play a non-human race or a female
The problem is that there are even GMs that need to give permission for acceptable characters.

>"Hey guys can I bring my girlfriend? She wants to try to play and I made a character for her."

>pc has no moral code what so ever.

>>55010989
>One man, a coward, ran at the start of the fight. They never attempted to pursue him.
Did they had a clue as to where to find him, or were they just suppose to ask around "have you seen this fellow [describes the coward]"?

And damn, I hope they learned their lessons. At least you warned them.

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>Player writes immense backstory, with various factions and worldbuilding that the DM all has to shoehorn into the game's setting to ensure that the backstory would work
>"What does my character look like? Well like me, but he's more muscular."
I love this dude, but his autism really fires up when we're playing.

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>>55011681
I have a hard limit on wordcount I accept for backstory and character description. In part its for my sanity; in part its for the benefit of the player. They should have a strong enough idea of both of these to describe them clearly and concisely.

>>55011756
I just don't write anything until after session 0 when the backstories come in. Then I collect all the interesting stuff from their backstories together to make the plot.

>>55006386
Yes, it is.

>>55006638
>hotglued
Please tell me that's not slang.

>>55008731
this
I'm not "good" at world building, I've just made so many fuck ups that statistically some good shit has finally come of it.

>>55011847
It is indeed slang.

>>55011681
I make it a hard rule that your backstory will not impinge on my world creating.
A family, fine, a localized guild, sure, but the moment I need to rearrange the world for the sake of your pc is when I toss it out and tell you to do it again.

>there is no gun powder in my setting
I didn't even have a gunslinger. I just wanted a travelling sorcerer who made fireworks in his spare time like Gandalf
>no underdark races
Sure drow can be annoying, but duergar and deep gnomes are pretty interesting
>theres no racism in my game
Tumblry friend of mine while arguing about how dragonborn are seen in the world. I thought more people should act hostile towards dragon people who showed up out of nowhere but she disagreed.

>>55006796
>>DM uses the terms "dark" or "gritty" to describe his setting
>not playing in 40k
It's like you hate fun.

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>>55006823
I would seriously try to "accidentally" put this orclover in the hospital if I were a HEMAfag.

>Captcha: marx 234a

>Japanese shaman girls who are clearly men

>>55008744
I love doing that with my cleric players.

"What kind of god do you want to worship? OK, I can fit that in *here*...this is now canon."

Really ties them into the game, too.

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>>55008375
>all my characters are lesbians
>don't tell anyone
>who else /mischief/?

>>55012112
>Tumblry friend of mine while arguing about how dragonborn are seen in the world. I thought more people should act hostile towards dragon people who showed up out of nowhere but she disagreed.
What, in FR?
How did the setting resolve that?
Just because something is new does not automatically equal immediate hostility. There is a lot of odd shit in FR, even for the average person.

>>55007072
It's barely a paragraph's worth of a blurb, but it is there.

>>55005742
>the character that is related to a line of kings

>>55012112
>>there is no gun powder in my setting
That's retarded. It's like saying "there is no fire in my setting"

You don't find gunpowder in your setting, you make it. So if your setting has a volcano, and it has beings that piss and take a shit, and charcoal(literally wood) then your setting has gunpowder. All your character would need is reach the sulfur deposits that are literally in plain view. Then just mix it together and make powder out of it. You will probably accidentally blow up but the process is really simple and the setting would have to be retarded to not have access to gunpowder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1MpKj_yCnk

>>55012388
Yeah in FR. The dragonborn talk was entirely out of character honestly. I understood dwarves, and elves, and what not. But I had no idea what I was supposed to compare tieflings and dragonborn to, for some reason I thought they would both be russian before I learned that they're mostly just scaley dwarves who hate dragons and outcasted humans. I didn't think it made too much sense for the common peasant to be so excepting of dragonborn and tieflings, but she thought that they should just be seen as average people. But I didn't think that was too realistic.

>>55006823
>You don't have to ask comerade.

>my character has a special once per day ability that only I get to have and is totally balanced so don't worry

>>55011950
Oh christ

>>55012593
>i have a small marble which is a family heirloom
>its a once per day but heres the list of things it buffs
>hands me a fucking page (front and back) of status descriptors
the fuck man

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People that confuse 'interesting' and 'cool' with setting appropriate.

>Pic related

>>55012630
At that point you just say no.

>>55012640
Is thatthe fagmo who always wants to play a mando?

>>55012648
well no shit
i wish i could just laugh shit like this off rather then make sarcastic insults to their face
but I choose not to be the bigger man

>>55012530
To be fair, wacky, setting changing shit has happened enough in FR to render it much lesser an issue, and even in FR, you have outlier places like The East, Shining South, Al Qadim whose travelers would be considered equally foreign.
D&D has never been big on specism outside specific cultural foes and groups that are repeat offenders of felony assholery, so a group that pops up that isn't immediately hostile would be treated with reserve, but not rudely.
>>55012511
Anon, do realize it took centuries for gunpowder to be understood and reliably created. Even the Chinese who discovered it considered making it a fool's bargain because of how dangerous it was.
I take issue with players who think that chemical discoveries are easy or quick. Tell me anon without looking it out, what is the mixture of charcoal, saltpeter and sulfur parts to each other?

>>55012711
while knowing nothing about gunpowder complexity it is kind of a copout with the no-gunpower shtick when theres way too many settings with high powered alchemy and magic and somehow perpetual equalised histories spanning thousands (or sometimes even millions) of years and yet few go into the gunpowder age because "Muh guns t'aint mediebals"

>>55009969
>not playing a pansexual trap with the largest penis in the group

Troglodytes, all of you

>>55012810
I put it on the same level of "why is no magic": Players complaining that they can't have something.
In most settings where gunpowder doesn't exist, it's also unnecessary, it doesn't add something important or intrinsic, or setting warping unless you make it so (just like magic).
>>55012876
Not all of us are Blackheart, anon.
I hope he is still alive.

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>>55011017
>>55011131

>>55005950
>Having regions specifically designed to be like a region on Earth simply for the sake of having that region but in fantasy.

In my settings, while I frequently draw on real life cultures for inspirations, I always try to avoid describing places as 'the setting's Europe/Asia/Africa' and so on.

>>55006823
>using very modern terms in general in a medieval fantasy setting

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>playing as a summoner

>>55013074
now your just looking for things to be mad at

>>55012949
I was just being facetious

>>55013134
No, summoners in 3.pf are a pain for the DM.

>>55005742
>chaotic neutral ever

>>55013231
I mean if he's shit maybe, unless you're playing something thats going to swarm the field with critters it's no more difficult then an animal companion

>>55008375
Honestly, this is the fucking worst characteristic a PC could have discounting fetishes. Hetero, Homo male, and asexual tends to actually have more characteristics than the lesbian characters and they don't fucking preach their sexuality across the fucking street. Its made even worse when the lesbian character is played by a male, even more worse when its a straight guy who pretends to be bisexual to get girls. I had one of those and every campaign with his female character was the fucking cringiest sessions we ever had.

>>55008917
No, he's right. According to AD&D 2nd edition, Player's Handbook:

>The paladin is a noble and heroic warrior, the symbol of all that is right and true in the world. As such, he has high ideals that he must maintain at all times. Throughout legend and history there are many heroes who could be called paladins: Roland and the 12 Peers of Charlemagne, Sir Lancelot, Sir Gawain, and Sir Galahad are all examples of the class. However, many brave and heroic soldiers have tried and failed to live up to the ideals of the paladin.

They straight up based the paladin off of Arthurian legend.

>>55013294
The good summoners can do exactly that.
The actual aggravation is having to find the creature because the goddamn player doesn't have their numbers down, repeatedly, and watching them fail to get the goddamn rolls right because they can barely get their own math right.

>>55009406
>A Paladin is an individual dedicated to the eradication of Evil

Yes

And from some Antipaladins' point of view, it's Paladins who are evil

Thankfully those Antipaladins tend not to have the high ground

>>55006500
I agree, which is a little fucked cause I'm loyal to OD&D

>>55013338
I'm so thankful my friends are all pretty good with rules and have their stuff written down. I shamefully take the longest with my turns, but that's because I'm a Batman Wizard and have to do ranging and shape measurements for metamagic effects.

>>55013381
nice

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>>55005742
>Rogues , not thieves, who don't steal and aren't scummy
Suck my dick, OP.

>>55012676
Yes, all he ever does is play a Mando with no personality or rp. He just shoots.

>>55013766
>suck my dick
Yay hey no way! That's no way for a pirate to talk!

>>55013766
Das gey

>>55013231
>Being angry at the concept of a class entirely just because it's memey in one specific edition of a specific game

>>55007134
Because in spite of what the "le Human Male Fighters are more unique LMAO" meme, Fighters are the stale white bread of character classes.

Even 5e can't give you interesting Fighter archtypes.

>>55009256
I always thought of the Cleric/Paladin dynamic like the sword and shield of the Church. Clerics heal and put protect from undeath, Paladins seek out and smite evil

>>55007134
They're so open-ended, they're vague. But since the class itself usually requires them playing sword and board warriors, well...you're an ex-soldier, or an ex-mercenary, or someone that had been part of a militia.

You could be a knight, I suppose, but I guess at that point most people would rather play paladins and get the shiny magical toys if they're going to stick to a code of conduct.

>>55007359
>>Lore not being the exact way I want it to be in a setting that I didn't make
Bit of a tangent, but I had a play rage quit my game because of exactly this.

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>>55006796
>players dont know what they want their characters to do!
>players are using common gaming terms to describe their characters specialisation!

cant fucking win with you cunts

>>55015220
What were they so mad about?

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>can't be a fraction too "snowflake" by the DM's incomprehensible internal logic.
>Can't be too down-to-earth either or you're ghosted for "being generic"
>Male human fighters are at once the worst thing to play and the only thing you should ever play
>sticking to archetypal weapons makes you a shitter
>Going sufficiently different or exotic makes you a snowflake or tryhard
>Dropped from games if you try to make a non human/elf/dwarf
>GM cries on the internet about how his players never branch out
>Magic, psionics and non-stock patrons are literally shaking hitler

How any of you play at all I will never know

>>55015400
>/tg/ is one person

>>55015400
>>55015499
There is only one DM in the entire world, the difference is we yell at him to stop being a faggot whenever he starts up his pretentious nonsense.

>>55005742
I've seen one good player examination of this concept and it's one that I loved so hard that I don't think I'll forget that player anytime.

>be woman peasant
>bandits attack village
>swear and oath to the gods, any gods that you'll do whatever the fuck they want as long as you fucking help them defeat these fucking bandit cunts
>suddenly get PC stats and kill the bandits
>yay now to go back to husband and kids and
>local cleric stops you
>no lady, you swore an oath. You gotta go "kindle the light" wherever you go
and thusly our paladin goes on adventures that she doesn't want to go on but kind of has to or the archfey will steal her children away. I liked that lady. I wonder if there was any subtext in her roleplaying

>>55005742
>Rogues , not thieves, who don't steal and aren't scummy
Fuck you. Rogues are great, thieves are red flags. I've yet to play with someone who wanted to be a thief who didn't want to use it as an excuse to turn a cooperative game into a competition they had every intention of winning.

>>55009881
this desu

>>55015499
seems like it some days. I see the same idiot badwrongfunthink parroted often enough

>>55009881
Having a map helps in determining the relative distance between two people without having to ask "am I close enough to hit X with my weapon?" every single time you try to make an attack roll.

Also, having a map out helps you to draw the total area that the PC's are in, which can help you remember buildings, trees, cliffs, and other nearby hazards that can be used during combat in some way.

>>55011774
>I am a lazy fuckhead, please fill in the blanks while I sit back and do nothing.
People like you are why I don't submit a lengthy backstory anymore whenever I join new campaigns.

If you're not going to put in the effort to construct a campaign, why should I put in the effort to construct a detailed backstory?

>>55007446
I actually tested this with a friend. People really like Dwarves that act like elves but fucking hate Elves that act like dwarves.

>>55005742
Not all rogues are thieves and many don't steal.

For instance, some rogues are pirates and everyone knows that piracy isn't theft. There's no "stealing" in claiming abandoned property under maritime salvage law after its original owners have decided to walk the plank.

>>55005742
>>55015982
Some rogues can also just be fighters/mercs or something with more indirect/cheesy combat methods. Like striking from the shadows and kicking someone in the nuts.

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>player wants to be in a position to attack enemies while being unable to be attacked
>argues with GM and demands special treatment to make his cinematic shit happen

>>55006796
>No "dark" or "gritty" descriptions.
Well what would you call the setting of my custom adventure set on the border between the Sunless Realms and the Kingdom of Sand?

>>55016435
Coarse and rough and irritating

>>55008460
I have the opposite problem

DM just never supplies any fucking substance to his worlds. Its always some generic one word location we're in. I don't even get to know the names of woods or anything.

In our most recent game, which was early 2016, I asked if I could make up a region for the game he was propsoing; so I wrote out a short synopsis making sure that everything important only got a paragraph at most so it'd be simple, interesting and quick to know, only ended up being about a page and a half.

Never hear it mentioned, never comes up, we spend all of our time in generic "cave" which just kept going forever. Which would be fine on its own, but don't advertise your game to me like its some deeply entwined Lord of the Rings plot if its just "fight bears, oh no a dungeon!"

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>>55008174

>>55008174
It's not called the pact of NEEDS.
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED.

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>>55007849
>Let my wife play
>She always insists our characters be married

>>55005742
Veg druids is fine imo

>>55005742
You sound like you're on the spectrum, please never come within a mile of me.

>>55016435
Tryhard.

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>>55017547
>get my gf to play
>she refuses to take part in anything and leaves
>she openly brags on facebook she's a nerd and plays DnD

>>55017651
See, my girl is the opposite, her family is obscenely religious and they would flip their shit if they knew we play it.

She wasn't allowed to watch power rangers, Pokemon, xmen, or a host of other things growing up because of them "promoting satan"

>>55017651

>let girlfriend play
>this is boring boyfriend anon
>can I run vampire
>sure, whats the worst that can happen
>literally the single most magical realm DM I've ever had
>her vampire games are so fucking sexual in nature that it literally rekindled the marriage of another pair of players in my group
>literally have a boner throughout most of the sessions, she occasionally teases me while we play

It's actually getting annoying as shit

>>55017651
>get my gf to play
>she turns out to be a total maniac psycopath

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>>55017699
My gf just has no real interest or nerdom. Really the worst part is everytime I try to introduce her to a series I think she'll like her first reaction, literally ignoring the opening scenes of the episode/movie, is to go read the entire plot on the wiki.

I'm also certain if that the game was a bunch of gay dudes running around having relationship problems would actually make her want to play. I don't love her enough to run that kind of fucking homosex just to get her into DnD.

>>55018050
Women like that sexy RP.

I used to have a DnD Milf whom I won over with whatever the fuck she saw in my roleplay/character, insisting he was super sexy and wanted to fuck my character. She once sent me a $50 giftcard to buy anything with, and began flirting with the idea of mailing sex toys directly to my house. This never manifested because at some point she ended up inviting her husband into the game. Apparently the dude was totally cool with me, I don't know what freaky shit was going on there.

At some point she switches gears and starts talking to me about how she wants to play some Super Hero game where everyone has a specific power, it may have been Mutants & Masterminds or something else. When splurging on how great the game would be she says her favorite powers are the mind control ones and that she likes the idea of a gay mind rapist who forces people to do homosexual favors for him. I would later learn that she and her husband have a freezer full of glass dildos from one of their friends and that they regularly use them on each other.

(Un)?fortunately at some point I may have called her sister a bitch and offended her entire family. Never saw her again.

>>55017699
>not allowed to watch Power Rangers

what if giant fucking monsters attack? What is she going to do? Watch attack on titan?

>>55015289
Kinda everything. They came into my setting expecting ?????? and got upset every time it didn't conform to their ideas of how everything worked. From the value of currency to how countries were run

>>55016369
One of my players sees zero point in the ability to fly because it doesn't make them immune to melee attacks while they, themselves, are engaged in melee while flying.

>>55018591
I remember browsing a Final Fantasy /tg/ thread about this and everyone in that thread had the most autistic fixes to the idea of "flying" monsters. Apparently if anything flies it's immune to everything unless you have a ranged attack or are also flying

>>55007380
It's probably due to the fact the D&D is such a mainstream ttrpg.

I personally first got started with D&D and then learned new systems and looked at a few. Also some people don't want to buy the books for a new system they may not like. Sure you could make the argument that you could just read it online but some people don't like pdfs. I know a few friends who are like that but if I give them a book to a new system they'll read it from cover to cover.

>>55009772
>2nd edition
>old material
kek

>>55006823
>you are the royal regiment fighting against Notolivier Cromwell

>>55005742
>aasimar
I have never seen an Aasimar that wasn't a Mary Sue

>>55009881
No one said that nor was that my argument. Boy you sure are slow, arent you, son?
How's it feel being too poor and unartistic for minis? Get good or get out of the hobby, plebian shitstack.

>>55005742
>people who proxy half their armies

>>55009881
Doesn't have a good enough imagination or enough money for miniatures

>>55009881
Not having a gm that gives enough of a fuck to actually draw out a map.
Wow, he must be dead on the inside. That's GMing 101.

>>55005983
>paladin of freedom
That's a fancy word for a barbarian!

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>>55008174

>>55007054
Wait, shadowrun is controversial?

Its convoluted, but i was under the impression it was generally accepted.

>>55021835
Shadowrun is controversial because its books are horribly edited, and Catalyst Games Lab stiffed freelancers out of their pay.

>>55021860
Fair enough then.

I did need to look in like, 8 different parts of the book just to get together all the steps for attacking, so i'll accept the horribly edited part.

So far as catalyst game labs goes, i'm not sure i care. It sucks for those guys and catalyst is shitty for it, but at that point just pirate their stuff to avoid directly endorsing their shitty tactics.

>>55021938
>at that point just pirate their stuff to avoid directly endorsing their shitty tactics.
There's a reason why /srg/ expands the cardinal rules of Shadowrun out to 4:
Shoot straight
Conserve ammo
Never buy CGL books
And never ever cut a deal with a dragon.