Why play a guy with a sharp stick?

Seriously, why would you play a stupid peasant with a stick, when you can play a literal demigod that fucks reality with his mind?

Martials, will they ever learn?!

>>55003435
>best rper
>constantly drives the plot forward while CN air fag tries to distract everyone from the plot and do side quests because he doesn't like the story
>makes plans to escape prisons, create (and destroy) airships, and raid the fire nation - all plans would've succeeded without DM dickery

Sokka was the best character, they made him a martial class to balance the story!

>>55003435
>Why play a guy with a sharp stick?
With as many extra rules my DM has put on caster classes, it's a lot easier for me to play a guy with a stick. I don't want to pay 3k gp and exp just to use my basic class functions.

That's why you castrate all the casters.

>>55003522
>CN air fag
Aang was NG, you absolute moron.
>Sokka was the best character
Toph>Iroh>Zuko>>>>>Your mom's pubes>>>>>Sokka.

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>>55003537
No, casters should be better than martials, to fairly represent reality. Seriously, a dumb guys with a stick could never be half as good as the master of the universe.

>>55003593
>casters
>reality
casters are only as strong as the rules of a specific piece of fiction makes them, that has no bearing on their capabilities or lack of in any other piece of fiction

>>55003608
What the fuck kind of retard are you? Seriously, magic is always better than no magic. Which is why casters are better than retarded martials.

>>55003582
>Want to do penguin sledding with me??
>I don't want to be avatar!
>I don't want to learn earth bending!
>I want to learn fire bending right now!
>wait, fire burns stuff?
>I don't want to learn fire bending!
>I don't want to fight the fire lord!
NG my left nut.

On second thought I'll change my opinion on Sokka being best character though.. Iroh was obviously best character. Sokka was the best of team Avatar.

>>55003582

>Toph

Bullshit

>Zuko

Double bullshit.

You have a point about Iroh, but what kind of retard do you have to be to think Toph is best character and Zuko is anything more than trash?

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>>55003435
You have only yourself and your shitty choice of system to blame.

>>55003776
Zuko is edgy in a funny way, and also has a nice redemption arc. Also, Toph is a qt, and I will fight you IRL.
>>55003746
>Kid likes doing kid stuff
>Doesn't immediately accept the huge responsibility that fell upon him.
>He did learn his lesson about firebending
>Doesn't want to kill people, because of that big G in his alignment (which is kind of stupid, but whatever)
>Is generally a kind person, towards people and animals for no benefit of his, making him Good
>Is happy to follow rules and traditions, as long as they don't go against what is most prudent in the situation, making him Neutral on the law scale.

>>55003965

>only thinks Toph is best because he wants to fuck a little blind girl with family issues.

Why am I not surprised.

>>55003482
Level 1.

>>55004014
Do you also want to fuck kittens and puppies if you watch a video and find them cute?

>>55003435
Have you tried playing any actually good edition of D&D?

>>55004070

You know perfectly well that's a false equivalence Waifu fag.

Why play a dude who performs card tricks when you can play a hero who jumps over a mountain in one leap, throws spears from one continent to another cross the sea, punches so hard he breaks the celestial dome, etc?

>>55004101
>good edition of D&D
That's a trick question, isn't it? There are no good editions of DnD.

>>55004101
>DnD
>GOOD Edition

Haha... oh man, funny one, DnDrone.

But for serious, see >>55003911

>>55004117
Aren't you projecting pretty hard there, my buddy? I bet it's you who wants to fuck a blind little girl with family issues.

>>55004125
>>55004131
When talking about DnD, there are good and bad editions
Obviously an apple will be better than an orange if you don't like citrus fruits

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>>55004101
There are no "good" editions of DnD. The only reason anyone plays it because of pop cultural significance. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows it's bad, and anyone with three plays something else after their first few sessions with that steaming pile of dog vomit.

>>55004124
Yeah, well, what you just described isn't a martial, it's a wizard of some sort. Because martials are jsut dudes with big armor and pointy sticks, and wizards aren't just performers, they have actual magic on their side that CAN actually rend reality apart.

>>55004175

That's deflection, and that is a non argument and even if you won't admit it you know it is.

>>55004186
See >>55004180

>>55004207
>that isn't a martial
In what weird universe that isn't a PC martial?

>>55004180
Conversely, shit with sprinkles is still shit, no matter what color or flavor the sprinkles are.

>>55004278
Martial is a guy with normal powers. Maybe he's the best there is among normal people. But if you give him superpowers, he becomes a caster.

Why has the whole 'caster v martial' shitposting thing gotten so much worse recently? Seems like a very dedicated group of trolls trying to 1 up how edgy they are being. Kind of pointless if you ask me, the caster v martial "debate" was closed years ago.

>>55004305
You're mistaking mundane for martial, they both start with m, that's it.

D&D and anime have truly destroyed a generation of role-players.

>>55003627
>magic is always better than no magic
across every potential story?

>>55004343
This, I'm so tired of magical girls flying around and nuking cities, turning dragons into pets and making liches their sex slaves

>>55004330
You can't close a discussion buy saying it's closed. You have to actually prove a point.
>>55004342
You're mistaking me for someone who cares about your crappy opinion.

>>55004330

These things come and go in waves. There is always some form of trending shit post thread that gets spammed, but they go away after a few months, only to see a few weak stragglers show up occasionally once their popularity has died down. Marshal v Caster will go away again in a few more weeks and something else will take it's place. That's just the way it works.

>>55003435
Because it's funnier to actually think problems through instead of le magic xD

>>55004364

Then you should probably get some players who aren't retards, because I have literally never had that problem.

>>55004371
At least it's not quest threads, amirite?

>>55004351
Yes.

>Sokka
>Literally the best example of the fighter archetype in a world of magic
He's the entire reason they won the war you dingus. He planned the final battle

>>55004371
Martial vs caster whining has been going on for years, if not for longer than /tg/ has been around

I don't know what the hell you're smoking that it's going to magically go away in a few weeks.

>>55004413
alright.

There once was a wizard and a knight who didn't like each other. Before the wizard could cast a spell the knight stabbed him in the chest with a sword and he died.

A story in which a martial beat a caster now exists.

>>55004413
How about in 40k where psykers are constantly tormented by visions of the hellish realm they draw their powers from and will likely end up as a daemonic portal unless killed/lobotomized?

>>55004437

It won't got away entirely, but the frequency of the threads will decrease. It's trending at the moment, but the trend will pass, and we will go back to maybe a thread every month or so rather than daily martial v caster threads.

>>55004440
Why the fuck did the wizard not have three layers of protections on him, and why did he not send a simulacrum instead of himself?

>>55004413
My country disagrees.

>>55004330
It's always been around, since caster and marital balance in DnD has never been achieved. It was balanced in 4e, and then 5e threw all that out the window and made Druid/Cleric/Wizard the best classes again.
The only way martials can compete is with busted multiclass options like Paladin/Bard, Paladin/Sorc, etc.

>>55004467
He did, martial just bypassed them due flexed muscles power, he also stabbed him so hard the simulacrum passed the curse of death to the original.

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>>55004367
>You can't close a discussion buy saying it's closed. You have to actually prove a point.

Sure.

First you determine what kind of game/setting you want. Then, you can simply make it work.

You can either have casters or martials be balanced or not. It's up to you. Based on your incessant need to post about how shitty you think martials are, then you don't have to balance them in your group.

For those people who want to actually balance them, there are lots of options depending on the tone of the setting. For low magic, fighters are limited to normal human feats and casters have weak magic. Casting anything with energy like a fireball or lightning bolt would tire them out as much as the energy it would take from their bodies as it would take to actually conjure the energy themselves. Most magic is based on charms, hexes, tricks, and so on.

In high fantasy games, fighters get supernaturally strong either naturally (because the laws of physics in this world are different) or they can have weeaboo fighting powers which works just fine. Casters can also have a lot of power but fighters pack just as much.

Like I said, this has been a shut issue for years now, it is literally this easy. That is all.

/thread

>>55004330
whenever any company that has had even the smallest of fingers in the DnD pie releases something new, they come out of their rank and vile dens to once again sow discord

>>55004500
Tome of Battle was great in 3.5, I hope they release something like that for 5e to make martials playable.
It's pretty sad when multiclassing a Paladin into a Bard after like 2-6 levels of Paladin is better than 20 levels of Paladin.

>>5500450
Well put anon.

>>55003435
>Why play a guy with a sharp stick?
People play Fighters because they don't have any creativity and just want to play themselves. And they don't have magic in real life. They don't have even average strength in real life either, but this doesn't occur to them.

>>55004467
The martial martialed so hard he punched through the Wizards magic. The martial was also wise enough to see that the decoy was a fake and went straight to the original. Any other dumb questions?

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>>55004305
>But if you give him superpowers, he becomes a caster
That's where you're clearly wrong. What spells would Hercules or Conan be casting as he's punching Merlin's face in? Here's the thing everyone gets wrong, in a world with magic there's also "fantastic", which means a martial' s upper bound is proportionally above "normal life" so that they can "naturally" stand toe to toe with casters.
As for Hercules vs Merlin, it's actually a coin flip because they would both be level 20.
But here's the important part.
To say that two characters of equivalent level shouldn't be equivalent useful/awesome/powerful(within their 'function') is to concede poor game design and pack of understanding of how group games should be structured. If two people are at my table, the game shouldn't fellate one and shit on the other. Much less should some internet retard not only tell me that its good design/realistic while furiously masturbating over the lack of enjoyment player 2 has from his plat experience.
Thanks for playing.

>>55004549

And people play casters because they have no creativity and just want to play "themselves", and they don't have muscles or a work ethic in real life. They don't have above average intelligence in real life either, but this doesn't occur to them.

>>55003482
because well designed games have a thing called "balance"

>its another episode of "fags who have only read 3.5 criticising 5e"

yawn

>>55004617
5e carried over a decent number of 3.5's problems because 3aboos shit themselves over 4e

>>55004630
its these vague meme statements that keep these threads going

the only actually overpowered caster in 5e is a level 20 (twenty) druid due to infinite wildshapes

>>55004467
the only magic that exists in the setting of 'the knight and the wizard who didn't like each other' is the ability to blow confetti out of one's arse.

>>55004649
Wrong. From the first level, wizards have access to spells that trivialize every fight unless the DM completely works the encounter around the wizard, which is just as bad.
One sleep spell wins any encounter.
Once they get level 3 spells, nobody stands a chance.

>>55004669
wrong again
wizards have around 6 hitpoints at level 1 if they take high constitution

thats one stray arrow, sounds pretty balanced to me

>>55004669
Oh, not a sleep spell!
>multiple groups of enemies
>constructs
>undead
>any creature immune to magic
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>55004617
>It's another episode of "fags who think 5e fixed any of 3.5s problems blinding defending it."

*vomit*

>>55004710
not an argument

>>55004702
>Level 1 party fighting constructs and magic immune creatures
Undead are a possibility, but wizards have spells to just nuke them anyway.

>>55004669
Isn't this why the party is always out numbered unless they're fighting some big monster or Boss?

>>55004649
The Bard's pretty ridiculous, but in terms of actually being overpowered, the bar is much lower than in 3.5

In 3.5, the disparity between the Monk (the worst class) and the Cleric (arguably the best class, possibly the Druid, possibly the Wizard) was far more severe than the disparity between the Beastmaster Ranger (the worst class in 5e) and the Moon Druid. The Beastmaster is not a literal waste of time and space at the table compared to a Moon Druid, unlike a monk.

>>55004691
You're a fucking retard. You don't even need anything on this >>55004702 to make the Wizard in trouble. Sleep alone is easy to get around, you literally just need to drop enemies with health. Or spread them out. Or have them get into knife-fight range of the party so that they can't blanket cast.

>>55004730
You said ANY you dumb faggot. Tell me how a single sleep spell is getting you out of fighting 32 house cats.

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>>55004761
...
question: Is Catnip a spell component for ANY spells a wizard would cast?
Because I may throw my players into this exact situation

>>55004761
What kind of a stupid faggot DM is going to make the party fight 32 house cats?

>>55003435
Only in shit campaigns, honey.

>>55003482
so you can be a stupid peasant with a stick who kills literal demigods that fuck reality with their minds

>>55003482
Because not every system makes magic infallible. Most systems make magic something that can be avoided, forced through, or just plain dangerous to use.

>>55004730
you mean they have 2 spells before they are out for the rest of the day.

the best "nuke" they have at that level is thunderwave which is a whole 2d8 of damage and a con save for half damage

how will barbarians ever recover who average 8 damage PER SWING

>>55004789
That actually sounds fucking hilarious.

>>55004789
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>>55004702
>>constructs
>>undead
>>any creature immune to magic
If you think this doesn't fuck martials too you're dumb
The other day I started a 3.5 game with some friends, precon, it had undead, we had to abandon the mission because Rogue dealt 0 damage, Bard couldn't do shit, Ranger same as rogue and the Fighter alone couldn't do shit. DR 5/slashing and piercing plus immune to precision damage and mind affecting effects is pretty hard to beat as a 1st level group

>>55004857
It does. I just don't see any DM doing that, especially when a wizard can just Thunderclap to kill all the cats

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>>55004901
>WAAH muh personal experience with 3.5 means 5e sucks waaah

this is embarrassing at this point
dont post again

>>55004901
>any creature immune to magic
Jade Regent had a monster like that as first encounter, it had 3 attacks (bite, claw, claw or Ranseur, bite) and SR 15 I think, plus immune to mind affecting, charm and other shit, it also gave you penalties (-2 to every roll) on a succesful bite. It ate through our 5 men team. With the ranseur it literally killed in one hit our barbarian (dealt like 25 damage).

>>55004901
>what is fire
>what are environemntal kills
Do you seriously think the only way to beat an encounter is to throw dice at it? Jesus, no wonder you faggots think wizards are OP

>>55004940
Nigga read the spells you quote.

>>55004940
>cats have higher initiative
>50% chance that the cats go first
>wizard gets killed before the other 20 cats have even attacked yet

hmm yes wizards are a real problem
you basically dont even need a party

>>55004962
>what is fire
Something that doesn't deal more damage to undead and constructs? something that deals laughable damage at 1st level because you aren't rich to buy actual bombs? so be my guess, bring that 1d4 greek fire that literally costs half you initial money or 1 damage from a torch.
>Enviromental kills
1. Never ever seen a GM allowing stuff like that, and I played in 5 different countries, so is not a "is just your city brah"
2. Precon game, didn't have anything to help you in there, it was a cave with nothing but smooth walls

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>>55004413

>>55004962

Despite claiming to be intelligent and able to work around the scenario the thing you have to realize about caster players is that they are mostly idiots who compensate for their inadequacies by telling themselves they are actually far more intelligent than others and that if they lived in a fantasy setting they would be the wizards. Their desperate attempt to prove that casters are better than martials is simply them projecting their real life issues with anyone who isn't a pathetic sad fat fuck up into the game. They see casters as themselves and martials as "chads" or whoever else it is makes them feel inferior, and just like in real life where they try to make themselves feel better by claiming to be more intelligent or otherwise superior even though they clearly are not, they insist that martials are inferior to casters in every way and can't possibly ever amount to everything. It's how they make themselves feel better about their lives and choices.

>thread about how martials are inferior to casters
>thread is full of casters arguing that they're actually balanced

Never change /tg/

>>55005019
Try role playing in your fucking role playing game, you schlocky shit.

>>55005051
>neckbeards have no arguments and get btfo
>this is apparently a problem

>>55003522
>Sokka was the best non-bender character

FTY

>>55005063
>If I roleplay hard enough I'd create magical pits, barrels and spiked walls to use against my enemies. If I roleplay hard I would turn immune to charm effects monsters weak against them, that's the power of roleplaying.
No, the system is shit, that's it. We did the sensible thing, left that dungeon and leave it to people capable of dealing with that

>>55005078
I didn't imply it was a problem. I'm stating that I'm amused by the thread. If I wasn't amused, why would I ask /tg/ to never change?

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>>55003435
Casters merely borrow their power, uplifted by gods or witchcraft. There is no legacy in magic that can't be overtaken or undone by the next bookish fool in a funny hat.

Any able bodied creature can perceive the greatness of a powerful martial, and so his legacy will always be far more lasting.

>>55005019
You've never lit a mummy on fire? Or ripped a rotting zombie's arms and lower jaw off and laughed as it tried to attack you? Or tricked a vampire into thinking its daybreak? Or thrown rice at a jiangshi? Or fed a goat to a chupacabra? Taken a picture of big foot? Given Frankenstein's monster an existential crisis?
Try harder.

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>>55003746
Yeah, Sokka was fucking awesome. HE WAS WANG FIRE

>>55005001
>tailor encounter to kill wizard
>it kills the wizard
gee
I'm pretty sure any level 1 pc would die to 32 house cats

>>55003582
Sokka is a lot better character then Toph and Zuko combined

>>55005160
quality meme

>>55005137
>You've never lit a mummy on fire?
Not at 1st level, no, a mummy at first level will kill your entire party in one turn
>Or ripped a rotting zombie's arms and lower jaw off and laughed as it tried to attack you?
I tried, provoked AoO and didn't accomplish shit in the Str check, tried again provoked AoO again and fell unconscious
>Or tricked a vampire into thinking its daybreak?
Taking into account they know when is daybreak by having 1 rank in survival, no, I didn't even try such stupid shit
>Or thrown rice at a jiangshi?
Never faced one
>Or fed a goat to a chupacabra?
Not undead, and never fought one
>Taken a picture of big foot?
I would be rich by now, so no
>Given Frankenstein's monster an existential crisis?
He already has several, it would be a dime in a dozen

>>55004070
Oh, wait... This isn't a normal reaction people have to cute stuff?

Uh... Fuck.

>>55005250
I'm calling the cops.

>>55005137
>mummy
>55 HPs
>AC 20, Touch 20
>Slam +11 (1d16+10+mummy rot)
>Fortitude DC 16, incubation period 1 minute; damage 1d6 Con and 1d6 Cha
This is the weakest mummy, good luck killing that shit at 1st level with alchemist fire or a torch

>>55005291
You forgot that the first time you see it you have to beat DC 16 Will or be paralyzed 1d4 turns.

Paralyzed as in you're about to get coup de grazed motherfucker.

I want to see this guy beat that as a 1st level group.

>>55005291
>thinking monsters are just stat blocks
>forgetting mummies are dried cloth and rendered fats
LMAO. They're literally candles, you retard.

>>55005323
just send in 1 wizard ecksdee

>>55005328
>Candles
>1 damage
>2 against a mummy
>Still needs to beat its touch AC, which is 20, so you need a 15+ roll
Go on
Greek fire is the best solultion because even if you fail the roll and the mummy beats the DC refl it will still take 1 or 2 damage, which would be 2 or 4 against the mummy, still you need 12 attacks to kill it because it has 55 HPs and the fucker can kill you in a single hit.

Also assuming you can even move because >>55005323

>>55005400
>best solution
By best I mean best for that level because you don't have money, of course you can buy way better stuff later on, dunno, like barrels full of oil or tar/pitch, but as a 1st level dude you dont' have that wealth.

>>55005291
>>55005323
>insert that story of a 8th level Rogue beating a CR 24 demon because he fellated the GM like crazy

>>55005444
[Desire to know more intensifies]

>>55005430
Because you would never hike to the tar pits to gather "equipment" before exploring the lost pyramids of the deep dark jungle, right anon? You would never prepare for an encounter. That would require tactical sense, something some kind of soldier trained in warfare would think of, but we only play "intelligent casters" am I rite? Pff, forget creative ways to punch above your level! Just thunder clap kobolds and cast sleep on bandits! Level 1 easy peasy.

>>55004467
The caster was so sure of his superiority, he didn't bother to take precautions , but got BTFO when he didn't get the initiative...

>>55003435
Isn't a caster limited in the spells he can cast a day, and needs to make of list of the ones he's prepared?

So when the wizard is out of fire ball spells, the big man holding the sword using cleave helps out a lot.

>>55005572
The problem is that at certain level (usually 7th+) casters have so many spells and there're so many multifunctional spells that in the system (if we're talking 3.PF) they won't run out of spells. Then there's the problem of martials being rendered to "I full attack" because that's pretty much the only thing they can do or can do right, other options tend to be or way too circumstantial (and waste several feats giving you a sense of having wasted them because how circumstantial they're) or simple become obsolete early on

I like ToB and some of the latter classes in PF though that deal with this, Bloodrager for example, is pretty cool.

>>55005644
>A spell improves with your caster level
>A feat does not
First mistake immo

>>55005572
Casters have too many spells to be able to run out of.
>>55005644
>>55005644
I hope the tome of battle gets re-released for 5e, it'd do a lot to fix how gimped martial classes are.

>>55005711
Man, you make it sound like 5e is like 3.PF, shit isn't as brutal as in those in 5e, over all the balance is pretty acceptable for most part of the game barren some cases like Wot4e Monk and PHB Beastmaster.

>>55005532
The problem is that for creativity to work it needs approval from GM.
Judging by level of replies there is a lot of shitty GM's out there that don't allow their players to do anything that is not SPECIFIED IN THE BOOK.

So it does not matter than mummy is walking torch if there is no special rule for it in the book so your torch attack in improvised weapon roll d4+STR mod, as there may not be special rule that torch burn things.

While wizard can at least hit the DM with rulebook int the face saying that Burning Hands DO FIRE DAMAGE, and mummy takes more damage from fire.

Only wizard have a small chance to win against autistic GM as what he can do is codified int da rules, while martial things requires a minuscule amount of imagination and goodwill on GM's part.

Also stop playing dnd

Maybe it's a setting where magic isn't all that good?

>>55005932
>not SPECIFIED IN THE BOOK.
Actually a lot is specified in the books, is just that those actions suck compared to "I full attack" for example

You can totally set on fire a mummy with a torch, it just does 1 damage, 2 because the mummy is vulnerable to fire.
You can totally grapple a zombie and break it's neck and arms, you provoke AoO and need a grapple check in two different turns to pin and then coup de grace, is just better to just attack.
Etc
A lot of people think 3,PF doesn't cover many situatiosn, it does, is just that the ruling for those situations is bullshit, I thought the 5e approach would be water from heaven (by not explicity telling you how those situations work) but it was even worse in my case, because by not having rulings every GM I ever encountered just tells you no, you can't do that.

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>>55003593
The Master of the Universe is a martial, though.

>>55003435

>Fighter
>Useless

Someone clearly never played a fighter/master samurai/weapon master/exotic weapon master with 4 arms and a decked out katana in each one of them.

>>55006023
>Actually a lot is specified in the books, is just that those actions suck compared to "I full attack" for example
If your only reasonable option is "full attack" than your game is shit.

>You can totally set on fire a mummy with a torch, it just does 1 damage, 2 because the mummy is vulnerable to fire.
Is a shitty GMing. If object is highly flammable and you hit ith with fire it should start burning, a lot in fact. d6, d8, more per round until successful DEX/CON save?
If not than your game of believe have less interactivity than Skyrim where flammable gas explode when you have fire spell prepared to cast.

Also by not making hitting undead with torch (one of oldest tricks in fiction) useful, you are a fag and bad gm

>>55003582
Just because Toph is your waifu doesn't mean she is the best character.

>>55006515
> by not making rotten zombies extra flammable, you are shit
In what world does rotting flesh easily catch fire.

Now a mummy might be able to catch flame, but 1d6 nonmagical damage a turn isn't going to stop it from murdering your party.

>>55004789
>the party goes to elsweyr.jpg

>>55004296
That's RPGs in general.

A game where it needs moderation by the moderator rather than the rules is just a shitty game.

>>55006515
>Rules are shit? that means your GM is shit
No, that means the system is shit

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>>55004305
Just because D&D is stupid about strapping magic to fighter feats doesn't mean that you have to be, anon.

>>55004305
>Martial is a guy with normal powers
In 3.5 there're feats that give you [Ex] and even [Su] effects, if you don't know what that means it means Extraordinary (it can break the laws of physics but isn't magic) and Supernatural (its magic but aren't spells). Monks for example have these as features as they level. So I don't really know where did you get that definition.

This could have been a comfy avatar thread, we were this close.

>>55003435
The years since it aired have made me realize that LoK wasn't a fluke; at heart, the whole show was shit.

>>55005041

>Is caster most of the time
>Best bro's with my martial buddy
>TFW I learn I'm supposed to be a jock hating faggot.

Lolwut?

>>55006639

>Khajit kills party
>Khajit robs party
>Party re-rolls
>Khajit has wares, if you have coin.

>>55008552

Mostly, not all. You may be part of the minority that are reasonable and we'll adjusted human beings.

>>55006116
What did your character bring to the table?

>>55007422
have you rewatched the original show lately?

>>55003482
If you want an actual answer, it's a matter of preference. Some people take to the idea of a martial who fights in melee and all that jazz more than flinging spells and shit. And there's no sensible reason for them to be mechanically punished in a game because of that. Sure, a fireball would realistically deal more damage than a wide-sweeping arc with a claymore, but then, I simply don't think that realism is an excuse to make the game less fun for certain players for, again, nothing more than a preference of playstyle.
If you don't want an actual answer, it's because we'z a buncha ooga boogaz bix nood. Spells is a trip, uncle funcle.

>>55003435
But my guy with the stick can literally cut a mountain in half. And once, for a bet, pulled two banks of the river together.

Not everyone plays your shitty DnD.

>>55003482
If I'm good enough with the stick I can fuck reality too

>>55003582
Iroh>Zuko>Sokka>Toph>etc

>>55010774
I see you are a man of culture.

> be me
> run d&d 5e campaign with a balanced group
> casters have their moments where they pull off magical bullshit to save the day
> martials have moments where skills and martial prowess save the day
> everyone seems generally happy and contributing
> see threads like this

What I see on tg never aligns with what I experience in play.

>>55003582
>zuko over sokka
> zuko over anyone
Iron>>sokka>>>>>>everyone else

>>55003435
Because a sword doesn't run out of mana or spell slots

>>55003435
I mean, part of Sokka's problem was that he was a pure fighter when everyone else was a crazy elemental wizard AND a fighter, and often better than him to boot. He compensated by being awesome but it's not like he the only one who could throw a punch in his group.

>>55007049
Comfort is frowned upon now.

>>55005291
>his GM doesn't adjust monster stats to make interesting encounters
Point and laugh

>>55004789
>What kind of a stupid faggot DM is going to make the party fight 32 house cats?
Just cook up some shit about an evil wizard attempting to attain immortality, blah blah, experiment goes wrong due to feline interference, etc, evil wizard's consciousness is now divided up over a hivemind of 32 cats. Prest-o change-o, there's your encounter.

And it's not even above-average stupid for a D&D session plot, either.

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>>55006065
Casters eternally blown the fuck out.

>>55011349
Sokka's problem is that he was comic relief. And once he was developed as a great fighter they gave him a sword, a weapon he couldn't properly utilise because they weren't allowed to show blood.

>>55005932
>>55006023
So to clarify, your point is..

>Also stop playing dnd

>>55005019
Five different countries, and you somehow manage to find the shittiest GM in each? That says a whole hell of a lot about you as a person, anon.

>a cave with nothing but smooth walls
Who does this?