EDH/Commander General /edhg/

first for stop saying "cgi" art

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Swanland

>>54979957
Amy Weber has produced both my favorite and least favorite art pieces in this game. Nothing in the past 25 years has surpassed either of those thresholds yet.

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>>54979957
>least favorite artist
Whoever made this fucking thing, jesus christ.

Talking about mtg art is kinda guilty pleasure, there's no real or meaningful discussion to be had but it's fun shooting the shit. Even though this is EDH general, but hey.

>>54980014
more like edgeland right guys

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>>54980000
Nice quads
What about cg art?

>>54980000
"cgi" art
:^)

>>54980034
Or spikytiltedland

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>>54980030
Never noticed how hit or miss Eric Deschamps is. On one hand he does this and Gideon Ally of Zendikar, and on the other he has stuff like this3

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>>54980040
people often complain about "cgi" art. magic has no cgi art. there is a big difference between a digital painting and an image generated by a computer through the input of code.

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Todd Lockwood.
>>54980080
I'm fairly convinced that every single Gideon must be redrawn until it looks nothing like any other Gideon.

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Steve Prescott does better fun and lighthearted art than the Foglios

>>54979957
Favourite: Scott Kirschner

Least favourite: I don't know. Who made those ultra gay shirtless men pictures from early on?

>>54980116
Agree to disagree, but damn he's good. I'm considering ordering his Dinosaur Sketchbook.

What's the cheapest Way to upgrade the land base for Draconic Domination? I'd rather not spend $300 or so for all the fetchlands and pain lands (just yet)

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>>54979957
>Favorite
Daarken
>Least favorite
I can't think of one artist I particularly hate the most.

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>>54980144
You're free to do so whilst having a wrong opinion.

Foglios were too good for the game and it is a shame that they don't do mtg art anymore

>>54980128
Justin Hampton? Dark Ritual aside, his stuff was pretty bad.

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>>54979957
>Favorite artist
Richard Kane Ferguson, easy. His Korlash art is amazing, blows Daarken's out of the water.
>Least favorite
I've never been a Wayne Reynolds fan

>>54980156

Shocklands, not painlands. My bad.

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>>54980128
>>54980128
Forgot my picture.

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If i give my opponent thoughtlash with donate or zedruu can he lose the game due to the cumulative upkeep due to the missed upkeep trigger?

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Surprised no mention of Kev Walker yet. I like him for similar reasons I like Wayne Reynolds. I really love the use of darkness and highlights. Less emphasis on interesting shapes but much cleaner art I think.

>>54980171
That's bad, really bad, but I mean that homoerotic shit.

>>54980168
I'll let you off with a warning for that dangerously incorrect opinion as long as you concede that Drew Tucker is the greatest of all Magic artists

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Does anyone have a good source for proxies? I've been looking to get an old bordered titania done, but I don't know where I can commission one.

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>>54980196
no
I had to google who that was.

>>54980179
sure

>>54980192
I really like Kev Walker too

>>54980000
This.

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>>54980000

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>>54980218
>The funniest piece of art that google gave me wasn't even his art
Fuck you too

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>>54980195
>someone paid money for this

>>54980254
Give me the edit of that elf art with the laughing elf pasted on it

>>54980271
Yeah man I got it but still, the ones I dislike the most are the ones that look like the covers of 80's hair mental records.

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>>54980192
Absolutely. There's a reason he's the most prolific artist in the game. He's reliably good, easy to read at card size, and refreshingly simple.
>>54980218
>>54980261
REEEEEE
>>54980254
Ramos makes me sad on so many levels.

>>54980254
Only one of those looks like a 3D model

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>>54980196
I've had a bit of a love-hate situation after seeing him develop as an artist for his Shadowmoor illustrations. I love them and I hate the fact it makes me dislike some of his more simplistic and odd illustrations like Ashes to Ashes.

>>54980254
The dragon was fucking stamped onto the canvas like a piece of ClipArt

>>54980320
Kraken and Ramos are both just plopped onto the scenes
The others were just rendered incredibly bad

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>>54980305
The only reason I don't LOVE Kev Walker always is is that the things in his art can be kind of blobby and shapeless when he's doing like, animals and stuff.

>favorite
Probably Christopher Moellor or Chris Rahn
>least favorite
I don't know I don't care enough to think about having one

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Post cards you recently learned exist.

>>54980179
I'm not sure that's how it works, though Thoughtlash is a great thing to give to a player using Zedruu.

>>54980305
That's the art of a magic card? That's some pretentious post modern shit right there. It's almost as good as that one white one about spirits that I can't fucking remember.

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>>54980389
I just learned this too since you posted it.

>>54980389
What a shit card. It's only usable against storm and then you'll just deck yourself

>>54980212
Deckrealm makes high-quality but obvious proxies so you won't get hated on for making fake cards (the backs are printed with their own logo, not the MTG one).

>>54980325
Strange, I feel the exact same way. But after looking at his non-Magic work, I can really appreciate the less detailed stuff. It's not less advanced, it's just more distilled. It brings out the key elements of the scene and nothing else. It's almost as if he envisions an image for just a brief second and then paints it from memory. Sort of the anti-RKF.

>>54980402

What would you do with him though?

>>54980414
It's actually costed about right. They usually tack 2 on for an effect with a set cmc and effect worth a card for a cantrip, and msot of the time this is just a color intensive cancel with a draw. It's still total horseshit but yeah.
>>54980437
Didn't know there was a specification for the cards to have a use.

>>54980414
>commander is always 1v1, what is multiplayer

>>54980414
>draw 10 or 20 cards
>deck yourself
????

>>54980414
It had a place in the Standard meta, and it's somewhat useful for ending small-scale storm or counterspell duels.

>>54980461
Ok I'm gonna have to call bullshit on this being used in standard back in the day. I know it was Kamigawa/Ravnica standard but come on.

>>54980451

Well there wasn't until I asked. I just assumed he would combo with something, maybe you just think its a neat card, that's cool too. I do like the art, I like any ogre who dresses like he's people.

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>>54979957
God Tier: Terese Nielsen, Rebecca Guay, Jason Chan
Great Tier: Greg Staples, Chris Rahn, Seb McKinnon, Slawomir Maniak, Volkan Baga, James Jones
Humor Tier: Phil Foglio
Should've Never Been Commissioned From Tier: Harold McNeill

(I'm a bit of a sucker for Nielsen and Guay, and for softer art with good light/dark contrast)


Unrelated, but anyone got any advice for cutting the last 9 cards from this deck to make it 99?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/edgar-markov-vampire-edh-4/

>>54980418
Do you have a link?

>>54980474
it's just a weird card I didn't know existed until I was looking up wording for a custom card. It's shit

>>54980400
See>>54980431
I don't think it's pretentious, just thoughtful and moody. And if you read some of his interviews Drew seems like a pretty humble guy.

>>54980179
What do you mean due to the missed upkeep trigger? Cumulative upkeep triggers on the start of your upkeep, and the removing your library from the game is an alternative to the cumulative upkeep. If you give it to them after the trigger it just doesn't happen.

>>54980472
It saw play in my local area, IDK about anywhere else.

>>54980477
>McNeill
As in you hate his art? Or the whole neo-nazi thing?

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>>54980389
Not a bad card but kinda specific. Maybe in Xenagos.

>>54980485
http://deckrealm.com/

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-08-17-orzhov-artifacts/

I'm trying to make an Orzhov artifact combo deck with Athreos at the helm, but I'm a casual scrub and I need some help. The idea is to play artifact creatures for free and then sacrifice them while taxing my opponent with Athreos.
While playtesting this deck it's clear that it's too unreliable. Sometimes it'll combo off on turn 5, but most of the time it'll do nothing until turns 7-11. It also lacks any boardstate interactivity.
This is my first time making a such a complicated deck and I honestly have no idea what I'm doing. Should I include more tutors? Should I put in more general artifact goodstuff, so that I can establish a more threatening board state? Or are there some better combo's I can use alongside the ones I've got?

I want to make it work, but I'm too much of a novice to do it alone, and there aren't any other decks like this on EDHrec.
I understand that Orzhov is among the worst color combinations for an artifact deck, but that restriction is kind of what makes this an attractive idea in the first place.

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>>54980525
Mostly the neo-Nazi thing, and the art on Invoke Prejudice.
A decent amount of the other cards he did art for are good, but Wizards at the time was a bit too lax with either their research on the artists' backgrounds or the descriptions of the art they gave the artist that they wanted. If they'd been a bit more thorough, Invoke Prejudice wouldn't have ever happened.

>>54980557
I think that's pretty funny to be honest. It almost looks like a piece of satirical art mocking the KKK.

>>54980179
The game can't precede from their upkeep until the player with a cumulative upkeep trigger decides. They never 'miss' it. If both of yall forget then yall can either continue as you were or have them exile the card they drew. If you knowingly saw them forget about it, you have to remind them.

>>54980575
>It almost looks like a piece of satirical art mocking the KKK.
Except it was literally meant to be the KKK by the artist. As we mentioned, he is/was a neo-Nazi and fully supported the KKK, and he purposefully made that art as an allusion to them.

>>54980477
Wound Reflection and True Conviction seem kinda meh. Iroas is not a vampire, no matter how gas he is. I'm sure I don't have to tell you how bad Shaku is, but if you're gonna run bad legends for flavor don't skip out on baron Sengir. I think Lightning Greaves are better then Darksteel Plate most of the time. Phyrexian Reclamation is great if you can fins a slot for it as well. Mana Geyser is kinda iffy as well. I came up with these ideas while tabbing back and forth on your list, so it might seem a bit scattered.

>>54980477
Quick look over tells me Fiend of the Shadows (you need to pay the correct colors still and you're really heavy on vampire tribal to the point I can't imagine consistently regenerating this, and a 5 drop 3/3 flyer that makes an opponent discard a card is not a thing i dont think), Kheru Bloodsucker (very bad sac outlet and I don't think you're consistently getting the trigger in this deck) , Shauku (way too expensive for what it does and doesn't really help your tribal strategy), cascading cataracts (??? do you need indestructible lands in your meta...? I know it technically color fixes but the smaller versions are barely playable cards imo) Darksteel Plate (not sure why you're playing this ,not very efficient and I don't get the impression you need to protect anything in particular), I really don't think kindred boon is a good card, Vampiric Rites (unless this is some sort of budget consolation). There's a lot of cards I would not play but I'm under the impression there's some sort of flavor and/or budget thing going on here.

>>54980593
That's why it's funny to me. If that was a serious pro-KKK art piece it does a bad job of things. They look thuggish and stupid swinging those big axes around and a bit silly in the back peeking out from behind things.

>>54980156
Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds, City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Murmoring Bosk, Ash Barrens, Warped Landscape, Blighted Woodland

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>>54980557
That's fair. I'm actually glad he was commissioned, though. For a few months at least, he managed to put his talent to good use, making stuff far more beautiful than the horror show that is his personal work.

Pic unrelated.

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>>54979930
Not him, but as a fan of Selesnya, I think pic related got much more the essence of Selesnya than reynolds. In reynolds, the pegasus knight in the back looks out of place, and the hair on the centaur doesn't fit in the conservative selesnya culture.

Also, the lighting in reynolds art is all over the place, while in pic related, he made sure to make it look like the selenya is breaking into the darkness since selesnya is considered to be "good" with all the lifegain and populates.

But it's not like I hate reynolds, I like some of his art, like in Fiend Hunter.

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>>54980656
>the horror show that is his personal work
Pic very related.

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>>54980676
This is the art of Fiend Hunter for comparison.

>>54980688
Yup. I try not to get political here but the man's a damn psycho.

>>54980688
>88
How fitting.

>>54980557

That's hilarious

>>54980600
>>54980614
Wound Reflection was just a "maybe try", so I can get rid of it I suppose.
True Conviction has been an absolute bomb in every other deck I run it in, it becomes "remove or lose".
Iroas is more for the attacker protection and menace, and with the low amount of white and red I doubt he'd become a creature easy. And even if he did, I could tutor up OldOlivia and ping him.
Shauku I can concede, though she's always been a card I want to use but can't because she's never good enough for a slot.
Greaves over Plate I'll try.
I had cut Reclamation earlier due to having Volrath's (and at the time I still had other recursion in that I've since cut), but I should probably put it back in for easy recursion.
Mana Geyser is just fast mass mana for Debt, but I can remove it.
Fiend of Shadows I kept not to regen it, but just to poke people and steal cards (and I kept it over the new Kheru because Fiend lets you play the card forever, while the new Kheru only lets you play things while it's still alive)
Bloodsucker was there to steal health from my other stuff dying, since I figured everything would get/stay big enough with all the +1/+1 counters, but I can remove.
Cataracts is just mana fixing, plus it enters untapped so it doesn't slow my mana.
Vampiric Rites I put in over something like Greed just because it's B to cast and lets me sac to gain life and draw.

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>>54980704
I also like the art for this one, but it doesn't really have the "reynolds style".

>>54980676
Those seem kind of like reaches to me. The theme of Selesnya was mostly hippies iirc, so I don't think having long and wild hair is really that so nto selesnya, and I don't get what you mean by the pegasus knight. Selesnya does have pegasi if that's what you mean, though yes admittedly it's not the first thing you think of for Selesnya. But it LOOKS like a selesnyan pegasus knight. I couldn't think the art would belong with anything but the Selesnya Conclave. It doesn't look like it'd fit in with a generic D&D campaign imo.

I agree the posted art is technically better though. Never meant to argue that Wayne Reynolds was technically very strong. His appeal for me is his stylization.

>>54980704
Fucking hobo Ray William Johnson

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>playing EDH with casual friends
>play something like Luminarch Acension that looks scary but doesn't do much quickly
>friends all hate me out of the game because of scary do nothing enchantments
>sit there and die while Nekusar storms off every game

fuck my life I just wanted to play enchantments

>>54980722
It's absurdly expensive, but I kinda got the point of wound reflection as kind of like a damage doubler, so I didn't point it out. If I pointed out literally ever card I thought was bad it'd be most of the deck tbqh, no offense.

>>54980749
>>54980676
Also, Fiend Hunter is probably one of my favorite pieces of art by him.

>>54980775
I'll be honest, man. I've never won a game by leaving Luminarch Ascension alone.

Shit like that and bloodchief just ends up eating the game.

Sure, it is a "bad" card, but that's BECAUSE it is easily answered. It still wins the game if unanswered.

>>54980775
Go GW Enchantress with unkillable combos like Sigarda, Host of Herons + Privileged Position + Greater Auramancy.
And throw in some other safety like Wheel of Sun and Moon, Leyline of Sanctity, Solemnity.

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>>54980656

Holy shit an old lady on a magic card.

And the young lady's tits aren't hanging out.

Was this a promo? I looked up the card and all the primary art is young ladies with titties hanging out.

>>54980822
It's an MTGO only promo or some shit.

>>54980822
It's art used for a promo on MTGO iirc. If it's not reserved, I also would be surprised if it didn't get printed in one of the masters sets coming up.

>>54980775
This guy >>54980803 is right.
Luminarch Ascension will win you the game if it isn't answered, so don't be mad when people answer it. You're complaining about the other players not letting you win.

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If we're still talking about artists, what do you think of Mark Rosewater?

>>54980557
This looks is great. You can't call it bad just because the guy is crazy IRL. That's not how art works.

>>54980852

Yes but not every win condition is a giant "kick me" sticker and that's what Luminarch Ascension is. Sounds like anon learned a hard lesson about multiplayer politics.

>>54980913
11/10

>>54980919
That one card in particular is bad because it's very obviously the KKK. Pretty much every other card he did was fine and even look pretty good.

>>54980913
iirc he confirmed doing some art in Unstable I think.

>>54980749
>long and wild
That's a mohawk. Pretty much the opposite of a hippy guild. I think he tried to make her hair look like a horse mane, but it didn't work well.

>pegasus knight
That knight has a roman helmet that doesn't really fit in the theme, its armor is entirely golden as opposed to the mostly green and silver armor that the selesnya conclave uses, and I didn't even mention that weird spike coming from the pegasus chest. The first thing that I think off when I look at that pegasus, is that it came from another plane, and now I know that it came from Theros.

>>54980676
>>54980749
>>54980958
Newcomer to the conversation.
The centaur hair reminds me of Gruul more than anything, so maybe she's a convert to Selesnya, since that's what they try to do? Convert everyone else into their Guild?
And maybe the same with the pegasus knight, maybe she's a convert from Boros or Azorius?

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>>54980958
I assume there must be some sort of pegasus knight in the style guide like that, because this one looks similar. I don't know if that can be pinned on him. Also Druid's Deliverance, Bronzebeak Moa off the top of my head also feature gold armor.
>>54980990
Eh. I guess so but that seems like a bit of a cop out of the situation. This wasn't really meant to be a point of saying that piece of art was the single best representation of selesnya. Just as a counterpoint to the notion that his art tended to look like it could just go to any fantasy world.

>>54980919
The art genuinely isn't great though. It's blurry and undetailed, which in itself isn't bad, but it lacks interesting composition or colors or anything else that would make it good.
People like it because it's a meme, but if those figures didn't look like the KKK then nobody would pay it a second glance. It's just ugly.
I suspect that you're going to say something like "the layered textures and abstract imagery create an oppressive atmosphere" or some other bullshit, but any tone it tries to create is compromised by that newspaper-cartoon tier linework and goofy axe.

>>54980958
>>54980990

The pegasus rider looks monowhite but I don't think it's out of place. I think the other three creatures and the image in general looks so green that it needed a splash of light to be Selesnya. The Pegasus rider is that splash of light.

>>54980942
>obviously the KKK

Yeah, so? It doesn't really fit into magic, but the artwork from that times was so all over the place, that you can't really blame him for sticking out. In isolation, this looks decent.

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>>54980389
For future ramos deck

>>54981036
>>54980958
Also, I didn't realize the hair was a mohawk. I guess that doesn't seem super selesnyan, but it's a really small thing that I can hardly hold it against him.

>>54981049

You clearly don't like abstract art on your magic cards. That's okay. Normally I would talk about the things that make abstract art good, to try to help you understand other points of view, but it looks like you already understand.

>>54981083
How does that card work in terms of color identity?

>>54980990
Selesnya is more about populating their own than recruiting others, that's more of a boros thing.

>>54981036
emphasis on the word "mostly" on green and silver armor. Also, conclave equenaut looks a lot more selesnya than the on in reynolds background.

>>54981083
>>54981103
If I recall, color identity includes things like indicators and abilities that say a card is a color. So it would count as all 5.

>>54981103
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/299117-transguild-courier-in-edh

>>54981103
It's only legal in 5 color decks.

>>54981049
Sure, it's not a masterpiece and I don't know much about art, like most MTG players probably. It looks more interesting and distinct than any of the CGI garbage from the last 6 years though. Calling it one of the worst compared to that is baffling.

>>54981123
>>54981115
>>54981114
Thanks friends

>>54980395
>>54980502
>>54980579

Well im not talking about shenanigans involving giving them the thoughtlash with the trigger on the stack or anything.

Lets use an example:

>I give my opponnent Thoughtlash with Donate
>Pass my turn
>My opponnent untaps but doesnt declare the Thoughtlash cumulative upkeep trigger and proceeds to his main step

This is where i want to know what happens, i have 2 guesses:

A: Because my opponent forgot the Thoughtlash trigger and went to his mainstep i can tell him that he did not pay for the cumulative upkeep and thus he MUST exile his library now.

B: My opponent forgets the Thoughtlash trigger and proceeds to his main step, i tell em that they forgot the cumulative upkeep and he he has to exile his library, he said he forgot about the upkeep and will fix it by going back and paying for it.

C: The same but instead of going back to pay for it because his opponent didnt remind them about the cumulative upkeep then its a missed trigger and he doesnt have to pay for it now


Basically what i want to know is how these "Upkeep" triggers should be treated, because Thoughtlash is actually something very negative if you happen to get your library exiled for not paying for it.

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>>54981112
I forgot the image for the boros recruit. It even says on the flavor how they trained it.

>>54981138
>It looks more interesting and distinct than any of the CGI garbage from the last 6 years though. Calling it one of the worst compared to that is baffling.

Ah, so it's a nostalgiafag.

>>54981173
Because it's Cumulative Upkeep and it is a trigger without "may" in it, as soon as anyone notices it was missed you're supposed to either reverse the game state to the point it triggered, or to have it trigger and resolve as soon as it's noticed it was missed if it is too late to reverse that far.
Also, no you cannot just flat say he missed it and say he has to exile his whole library for failing to pay.

>>54981138
Let's clarify that. Are you trying to say it's better than any recent card art, or just some subsection you're referring to as "CGI garbage"? If the latter, what all are you classifying as such?

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>>54980942
>That one card in particular is bad because it's very obviously the KKK.
That's also not how art works, leftypol.

>>54981142

Well that's a load of horse shit. I'm gonna keep running him in my rainbow themed Kinayos and Tiro of Meletis deck. He's 2good with Knight of New Alara.

>>54980593
Invoke Prejudice's Multiverse ID is 1488. Not kidding, crazy coincidence

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=1488.

>>54981255
Hey, if your playgroup's fine with cheating, go for it.

But it is kind of like running Garruk Relentless in a monogrene deck.

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>crtl+f rk post
>0 hits
0 style points.

>>54981255
>I'm gonna keep breaking the rules, now knowingly.

>>54979957
>Favorite
Mark Tedin or Ron Spencer. Shame they don't do work for WotC anymore

>>54981304
Hes fine.

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>>54981138
I'm not saying it's the worst of all time, I'm saying it just isn't good. Nobody goes on about how great art is in Circle of Protection.
Now you're now going to say "but those cards have great art," but when was the last time they were brought up in an MTG art thread? Would you honestly post them as examples of good art, instead of posting something actually worthy or praise?

Take pic related as another example. It's not good. It's not the worst art ever, but it isn't good. It's utterly vague and forgettable.
The only reason Invoke Prejudice is treated differently is because of its meme status; without that it would just be another forgettable ugly card from a bygone era.

And to reiterate, I'm not saying it's worse than Warping Wail. I'm not using any hyperbole. It's just a dull card.

>>54981100
I don't have a problem with abstract art. Scour and Hunters Insight are both good examples.
Being abstract isn't an excuse for being ugly and dull. Invoke Prejudice is just a meme.

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>>54981112
>>54981180

The core ethos of Selesnya is populism. Collectivism. Tokens are supposed to represent the nameless rabble, the meek, the humble.

The only guild more welcoming is arguably the Golgari (you don't even have to be in one piece to join the Golgari).

>>54981330
Too bad the Selesnya are sinister as fuck and use mind control en masse

>>54981049
>lacks interesting composition
It's not a 10/10, but it has a good composition, it gives off the vibe of "you are in the wrong neighborhood"

>colors
I completely disagree here, I think the art would be worse if he added more colors. Swanland is an example of an artist that can make good art with a limited pallete.

>cartoon tier linework
I agree with this, but
>goofy axe
What about the axe is goofy? It is plain, sure, but I wouldn't call it goofy,

>>54981326

>>54981330
>only guild more welcoming is arguably the Golgari
Pretty sure that's Rakdos, famalam.

>>54981343
I've never liked that, it always felt like something they tagged in at the last second because they realized Selesnya was by far and large the "nice guild".
Everyone likes to forget that everything we see on the cards and even most of the books are the intensest moments of the plane.
Every guild has a more casual side, even Rakdos has people in it who aren't murder happy, like simple bartenders and shit.

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>>54981326

Hunter's insight is one of my favorite cards but it also has some of the most forgettable art I've ever seen. Hunter's Insight doesn't have good art and Invoke Prejudice does.

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>>54981402
You're not welcome to Rakdos if you don't know how to have fun.

>>54981343
It's only so everyone can appreciate and bathe in the glory, wisdom, and beneficence of Mat'Selesnya. Is that so wrong? Also we have tree babes and root and marble robots.

>>54981330
Selesnya is open to all, as long as they cooperate in the collectivism part with emphasis on meek and humble.

All the guilds are open, as long as the candidate meets the guild criteria.

>>54981417
>not knowing how to have fun
That'd be a terminal case of stick-in-the-ass if I ever saw one.

>>54981402

Well, the Rakdos probably put the most EFFORT into recruiting, the other guilds don't have to drag people in kicking and screaming.

>>54981343

Nah, I don't think its too bad, I think it fits right in with the ethos of extreme collectivism. Selesnya is all about everybody's wellbeing, nobody said they were about freedom.

>>54980775
Actually I love the Circle of Protection cycle made by him.
Harold may be completely retarded but his art is actually one of the best impressionist jobs done in Magic. Most of his works capture the essence of the spell without being completely obvious and kinda mysterious at the same time.

>>54981424
And the 2nd most wild orgies on all of Ravnica. If you want to go to an orgy and know that you'll walk out of it with all your limbs, and a guarantee of survival, come to Selesnya.

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>>54981444
...

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>>54981462
>>54981417
>>54981424
Most unorthodox!

>>54981486
Fuck off, we've got permits.

>>54981441

Yea, that's fair, you can just say "willingness to obey is this guild's criteria". But that also makes them the guild most open to a random jackoff walking in off the street. That's what I was saying. If you aren't smart enough the Izzet just won't take you. If you don't show promise and dedication as a soldier the Boros just won't take you.

What are the criteria for the Golgari? "You can't be afraid to die and be brought back as a sentient fungus-nursery"? It always seemed to me like they just take all the sick people and the cripples and the people no one else wants.

>>54981304
But anon, that's Brom. How do you mix the two up?

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>>54981499
And you can get them back after you do some time, heretic.

>>54979957
My top five are:
Rebecca Guay
Kev Walker
Terese Nielson
Seb McKinnon
Rob Alexander

Special mention to Phil Foglio because his art is really iconic and nostalgic.

>>54981539

lol

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>>54981355
>I completely disagree here, I think the art would be worse if he added more colors. Swanland is an example of an artist that can make good art with a limited pallete.
I'm not suggesting that it should be bright or colorful, but that grey-green isn't exactly appealing.

Look up Beksinski's stuff if you want to see what good oppressive abstract art with a limited pallete looks like.

And the axe is just silly. I don't know how to explain it, except that it's just looks like something out of a cartoon, which clashes horribly with the "deep" abstract watercolors. It just doesn't work.

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>>54981417
One nice thing about RtR was seeing the "casual" life of some of the guilds.

>>54981502
>you need to show dedication
You know what other guild also requires that? Selesnya, they are not going to let you stay there if all you do is slack off. Don't confuse meek and humble with lazy, selesnya looks like hippies, but they do a lot of work, those giant tree golems doesn't grow themselves.

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>>54981526
Brom wasn't mentioned either, just getting everything I can into one post.
It's not like I messed up or anything.

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>picking any other guild
Start thinking with your dicks.

>>54980303
>the ones I dislike the most are the ones that look like the covers of 80's hair mental records
How? That shit is great.

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>>54981556

I think the axe clashes with the card's function and color. Other colors might use a big axe to represent a non-combat effect but that isn't blue.

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>>54981602
Selesnya has best girls.

>>54981539
>heretic
How to prove you aren't Azorius in one word.

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>>54981602
Is that a vanguard card or something? She doesn't look so anime in her official pic.

>>54981592

Well, sure, all of the guilds require dedication of some flavor or another, but Boros is on another level. I probably should have said "the potential for insane fanaticism". Boros requires more than just dedication.

>>54981599
doubt.jpg

Still, great taste

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>>54981602
>Start thinking with your dicks.
I already do and that's why I am Boros. To be around pic related.

>>54981539
That's Boros. Azorius won't give even a single shit as long as you've got permits.

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>>54981617
Even when they just have the colors they're still the best.
>>54981627
It's a deviantart piece.

>>54981659
Well as long as you've got the right permits. You never have the right permits.

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>>54981659
>>54981676
And how.

>>54981556
As I said, I don't think the art is perfect or anything, but I think that it is good. One of the main reasons I like that art is because of the balls the artist had to draw such a political theme. I don't think many artists, Beksinski and Swanland included, would even dare to draw something like that to be printed and sold to the world.

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I wanna build Razaketh for storm funsies and combo kill but I have none of the monoblack cards.

1. How bad is it gonna be without most of this stuff. I have like Caged Sun and Gauntlet only.
2. Any other interesting combo-tastic monoblack decks to recycle cards into?

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>>54981658
That's why you go Naya. So you can get all of the above.

>>54980725
The Epic Confrontation art actually really pisses me off because Tarkir actively does not have scaly green dragons. And yet here we are.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bounty-of-karametra/

Still looking for a bit of feedback on this. Mainly trying to avoid any major pitfalls.

I cant believe that Jon, The Hound, Jaime and Jorah all die in a wildfire in the dragon pit. Isnt that just nuts?

>>54981622
If you have any concerns or complaints, please be sure to contact the correct sections of the Azorius Senate. Your complaint will be reviewed by a jury of your peers in 7 to 8 Ravnican business days and any corrective actions to be taken, if any, will be enacted via the appropriate channels of the guild, or, if necessary, the military services of the Boros Legion. Have an adequate, but not too adequate, but not too inadequate, day, citizen

>>54981700

Well, I think you're glorifying bigotry a bit, I don't think it really takes as much courage as you think for some fascist jackoff to insert his politics into his work. The liberal thought police are not as scary as people seem to think they are.

But it's good art, sure.

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>>54981708
>thinking I like females
How's that one phrase I heard once go?
"I prefer sausage and roses to ham and eggs" I think?

>>54981708
>Naya humans are super sexy
>Jund humans are lanky and lizard-like
>You can see INSIDE an Esper girl's pelvis
Alara is top-tier everything.

>>54981700
Being batshit insane isn't the same as being brave. Harold McNeill in his art supports Timothy McVeigh (the Oklahoma City bomber), Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and has dozens of pieces showing the same woman shacking up with tentacle monsters, Cthulhu, dragons, bats, snakes, and literally Satan. One of them is titled "Madonna." Being a nutcase doesn't take balls.

>>54981803
>>54981700
Sorry, "Madonna and Child," depicting this mother figure having sex with a snake.

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>>54981741

>Showplebs

>>54981818
>redditlettermedia

>>54980254
Clique isn't that bad imo

>>54981719

I don't think that's a dragon. I always thought it was a naga but it looks like the nagas all have relatively flat faces.

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>>54981834

>He doesn't watch Mike and Jay

>>54981839
Pretty sure its a Silumgar brood dragon. He knocked the fangs out and thats kind of their thing so.

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>>54981638
>insane fanaticism
I don't think boros requires that much from their members. Remember that even a goblin managed to get in, and he's not the only goblin in the legion. All you need is to show regular soldier dedication, otherwise boros wouldn't be as big as they are, and I think that boros is the biggest guild in numbers.

Also, working the land requires a lot of physical labor, keeping the Selesnya guild clean and in good production is not easy.

>>54981602
I will never not be angry about this.

>>54980725
>>54981719
>>54981839
I think it's supposed to be one of Silumgar's brood. The curved fangs flying off give it a more snakelike appearance, but the general shape of the head fits. His dragons also come in a really weird variety of colors, from purple to orange,

>>54981838
None of them are "bad". Except Kraken.
Ulamog kinda looks like an action figure, but otherwise everything is fine.

>>54980803
>>54980814
>>54980852
I'm playing Mayael enchantments

playing politics doesn't work when I attempt to make deals with people, even before they blow my stuff up, and they always say no

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>>54981700
>One of the main reasons I like that art is because of the balls the artist had to draw such a political theme. I don't think many artists, Beksinski and Swanland included, would even dare to draw something like that to be printed and sold to the world.
That's what I'm saying, you only think it's good because it depicts the KKK. If it wasn't for the controversy and history around the art you wouldn't pay it a second glance.
It's a meme.

And I dunno, Beksinski was pretty political, though he's a "real" artist and doesn't have to answer to WOTC, so it's not a fair comparison.

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>>54980389
I don't think I've played a game with Alesha yet where I wasn't happy to see this guy show up.

>>54981892
Well, with R in the mix, you can also put in things like Price of Glory, War's Toll, Stranglehold, City of Shadows if they're doing things on your turn you don't like.
But other than what I already said above, there's not much more I can add to help you protect your stuff other than Avacyn herself.

>>54981863

Insane fanaticism is the Boros Legions whole, like, *thing*. Goblins have much greater potential for insane fanaticism than humans.

>>54981902
That's a spicy fucking card anon. Got any others?

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>>54981839
Eh, Reynolds seemed to draw all the Sultai naga like this.

Sultai also has giant snakes, Ass Sudden Reclamation. Maybe one of those?

>>54981848
>sf5
lmao

>>54981787
>>54981803
Hmm, I didn't know he was crazy. But still, I think people makes too much of a fuss over shit like Hitler for example. Just because it's a drawing of the hitler, it doesn't mean the artist is a nazi, the same way I'm not a buddhist just because I made a drawing of buddha.

>>54981897
You did not read. One of the main reasons does not equate to only. I like the watercolors, composition of the art, and how it clearly depicts that you are going to be punished just because you are not like them.

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>>54981955

>4chan

LUL

Can you make a edh deck nothing but the cards of one artist including basic lands

>>54981935
They are not more dedicated to the soldier training than Azorius is to the enforcement of the law, or Selesnya is to their land. Selesnya looks like hippies, but they work just as hard as any other guild, and by that, I mean their members without exceptions.

>>54981938
I don't have my list posted anywhere, but I don't think it's really too out of the ordinary for an Alesha deck. A lot of the standard combo pieces and sac outlets. Key to the City has surpassed my expectations. Love cheating out Wall of Blood or Master of Cruelties, making them unblockable, and then pitching them to goblin bombardment after combat. Definitely my most fun deck so far.

>>54981971
Did you see the picture over >>54980688 here? It's not just a drawing of Hitler, it's Hitler compared to Jesus. And the support of McVeigh and Manson isn't speculative either. McVeigh's piece is a phoenix ascending with the title "Invictus" (undefeated), and the date June 11, 2001, McVeigh's execution. His Manson piece is titled "Commemorating Sixty Years of Struggle Against Cowardice, Stupidity, and Lies."

>>54981971

Yup. I don't think drawing Klansmen on a magic card about prejudice is really a brave move. I don't even feel that his personal work glorifying Hitler is brave, liberals will call you a bigot and occasionally try to get you fired, they won't run you over or bomb your church or try to drive you out of town by force. There's a tendency in America to glorify racism and sexism because "at least he has balls" and I think that's nonsense.

>>54982006

That's why I should have said "Insane fanaticism" and not just "dedication".

>>54981839
>>54981860
>>54981864
>>54981939
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/call-2015-04-15
It's supposed to be one of Atarka's brood, Reynolds just didn't get the right direction.

>>54981892
>>54981934
Meant City of Solitude, not Shadows.

Is there anything worse then 15 minute turn combos?

>>54982149

15 minute turns where the player fails to combo.

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>>54981974
>memes
lyl

>>54981729
>>54981729
Argothian Enchantress
Enchantress's Presence
Aura of Silence is better than Seal of Cleansing and Seal of Primordium.
Ghostly Prison is also just plain good.

I really like the flavor of Harvest Hand, but you should cut it if your deck feels too weak.

Having a few wraths is a good idea in most decks, and it's especially true here because your commander is indestructible and you're running so many non-creature permanents.
Wrath of God is also very flavourful with a god commander.

Speaking of gods, Heliod, God of the Sun and Nylea, God of the Hunt are both good. Heliod also creates enchantment tokens that trigger Constellation.

Karmic Justice protects your shit.
Journey to Nowhere and Grasp of Fate are good removal. I also like Cage of Hands, because you can return it to your hand and cast it again once you have a bunch of enchantress creatures on the field.
Ghostly Prison is just good in any white deck, and it's better than Windborn Muse.
Avacyn's Pilgrim and Birds of Paradise are both good, but there's a lot of enchantment based ramp you can look into as well.
Sylvan Library is just great.
I have a soft spot for Spectral Grasp

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>>54982235

>/pol/

Jesus can you fucking problematic assholes just stay on your own fucking board k thanks?

>>54982056
I'm not sure if that was the point of the artist, but that actually was opposing Hitler and Jesus, just like Alpha and Omega are the start and the end, there is Jesus and Hitler, which are life and blood. I mean, iirc, most researchers confirms that hitler was in fact not christian at all.

>>54982149
>>54982234
15 minute turn combos where someone stops a combo and proceeds to take a fifteen minute combo turn

>>54982256

Lighten up son, even as a muslim I found that picture funny.

>>54982080
And you think that what they do at the Azorius Senate or Selesnya Conclave is not insane fanaticism? Azorius enforces law on others that they made up themselves, and Selesnya nurtures peace at all costs in a shady and almost hypocritical way.

>>54982274
Please please educate yourself just a tiny bit. Alpha and Omega does mean beginning to end, but not as a spectrum of good to evil. Jesus, in multiple places in the Bible declares himself to be the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. "Alpha and Omega" is a Christian expression meaning eternal or all encompassing. He is not saying "Jesus is the Alpha and Hitler is the Omega." He is saying "Jesus and Hitler are both the Alpha and Omega." And Hitler's personal religious beliefs were strongly anti-Christian, but the beliefs of modern white supremacists and neo-Nazis who glorify him are strongly Christian.

still new to magic

if I have dream halls out, i can use it to cast a creature for free, right? Because creatures are considered spells when out of the game or on the stack or something?

>>54981971
>>54982274
Mate, I think you're too immersed in the current political climate.
Not every edgy drawing is a defiant declaration for freedom of speech in the face of hysterical leftist censorship. /pol/ isn't just pretending to be racist to make liberals mad.
When an open and unabashed fascist sneaks white supremacist imagery into a children's card game, he's not doing it for any benevolent reason, he's just being a piece of shit.
Not everything is an edgy joke. Fascists aren't just an imaginary straw man. Some people really are literal Nazi's. Don't make excuses for them.

>>54982244
Thanks for all the suggestions. I had considered Heliod, but I blanked on the fact that the tokens were Enchantments. I'm including him for sure now. I'm less sold on Nylea, though I think she would be useful to make my various tokens more of a threat. Grasp of Fate and Cage of Hands seem nice for some versatile removal, and Wrath of God seems obvious in retrospect.

I strayed away from some of those initial cards you mentioned due to cost, but I really do think I need them for more reliability.

As for Windborn Muse, I had it in for slightly more Flavor reasons much like Harvest Hand. I do think Ghostly Prison fits a lot better in regards to the deck's theme though.

>>54982367
Yes. All non-land cards in your hand are considered spells.

Remember, Dream Halls lets ANY player discard a card to play a spell. Don't make my retarded mistake and buy it before realizing this.

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>>54982367
ANYTHING THATS IN THE HAND IS A SPELL (except lands)

ANYTHING THATS ON THE BATTLEFIELD IS WHAT THE CARD SAYS (pending other effects)

>thread about EDH
>its about fucking politics instead
Can you retards please be fucking banned? No one cares about your political opinions

>>54982461
oh its ALL players? fuck that then

>>54982316

Yes, that is what I think. The Boros legion is defined by insane fanaticism. I believe "zeal" is the word they use.

>>54982425
No worries mate.

Also Soul Snare is secret tech.
Commune with the Gods is flavorful tech.

>>54982405

You're mostly right but don't portray Magic as "A children's card game" and don't act as though the KKK imagery is out of place or inappropriate. Magic walks that line where it wants kids to play but it also wants to deal with some really heavy themes. I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that magic EMPHASIZES the theme of prejudice and bigotry and does so in every single set. They usually stay away from real-world imagery but not always.

>>54982338
>but not as a spectrum of good to evil
I never said that.

>Jesus, in multiple places in the Bible declares himself to be the Alpha and the Omega
This I didn't know, since I was never a religious person.

>>54982405
I don't know how far you mean by "current", but since before 2010 when I found out about that card, I thought that card was pretty interesting. And I don't think that mtg had many kids playing the game when that card was released, I mean, even now the average age of the mtg player is around 24~25.

>>54982518

No.

>>54982581
Awesome. Well, it looks like I have some cuts to make, but I think there are already some things here I know I could do without.

>>54981707
>wanting to masturbate to an audience

edh storm players are the fucking worst

>>54982660

Its like trying to masturbate in front of a group of people who are all trying to stop you from masturbating or trying to kill you before you finish. It is a lot more fun than you make it sound.

>>54982691
Dude no one finds it fun, the majority of players will tune out the moment you start keeping Storm count and pull out their phone. You do you, autist.

>>54982805

I didn't say it was fun for anyone else.

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>play Nazahn
>grab blade of selves
>when the Nazahn copies ETB, assemble Kaldra all at once

>>54981863
> I think that boros is the biggest guild in numbers.

The Golgari have the largest guild by far, mainly due to the fact that they'll accept literally anyone and you don't leave the guild when you die.

>>54981603
If you're gay, sure.

>>54982959
Not many are willing to join the golgari swarm, but I guess that necromancy more than makes up for it. Although I think that most of the guild members aren't active, they just do stuff when commanded and given proper care and mana.

>>54980942
>That one card in particular is bad because it's very obviously the KKK.

It's called Invoke Prejudice. How does the KKK not fit perfectly for that?

>buy commander deck
>ask random neck beard #67 if he can teach me how to play
>sure man
>plays some whore called Narset and draws his whole hand then plays every card for free on turn 4
>he also has infinite turns from some card called beacon of tomorrow

give me your goofiest ideas for Mairsil

>>54983259
that's why you play with your friends who have similar powerlevels, not random neckbeard #67

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>>54979957
So I'm the only one who loves the whimsical artstyle of Diterlizzi? I always loved cards like Verdant Force and Vine Trellis

>>54983273

Yes, but we may dream of a day when Random Neckbeard #67 owns decks at multiple power levels and knows how to teach the game.

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>>54982518
Isn't politic great?

>>54980254
I want Theros kraken and the shitty three drop burn spell to cease to exist art-wise. Ramos just needs a more fitting background, personally I think vendillion and ulamog look fine.

>>54981539
Fuck, that Azorious armor is dope as hell.

Best stax Commanders in black? Tired of going against Jeleva Storm and Narset bullshit. Have a Nether Void and I wanna bust out.

>>54983707
Suck Sheldon's dick until he unbans black Braids.

>>54983719
Thanks for the helpful info

>>54983746
I'm always here for you m8, even when it's 3:30 am and I have to go to work in 4 hours.

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>sac is a cost
>not an ability

what a country!

>>54980545
>I understand that Orzhov is among the worst color combinations for an artifact deck
There are much worse combinations.
>but that restriction is kind of what makes this an attractive idea in the first place.
The thing is that there doesn't seem to be any reason at all to have an artifact focus for the deck. Why not just go with Silas/Ravos or Breya or Daretti? Athreos doesn't care at all whether or not your things are artifacts, and it's not a "challenge" to make a deck that has no synergy with its commander.

If you want an artifact deck in unusual artifact colors, consider BG Glissa. If you want a good Athreos deck, make it Apostles or goodstuff sac politics.

>>54980192
>>54980224

I never realized how much I love Kev Walker until I looked up his work.

>>54980305

This guy should do more black/evil cards. His style creates some sick shit.

So why wasn't Worldly Tutor reprinted in Eternal Masters but Mystical and Enlightened were?

I like the eternal artwork more

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>>54979957
>Favorite Artist
Wesley Burt
I want to be Wesley Burt
>least fav
I have none but this image really puts me off

>>54984278
>Worldly Tutor is actually 12$ now
Wew lad.

>>54980030
>>54980080
>>54984325
I swear Eric Deschamps rolls a d20 before he draws or something

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>>54984361
But man when he rolls a 20...amazing.

>>54984278
probably because they thought green sun's zenith made more sense instead. it really bothers me that it was the only one of the one mana tutors that they didn't reprint

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Saw this in the custom card thread and thought it made for a neat thought exercise. With all the talk of artist appreciation, how many cards are you confident you'd be able to get with this?

>>54984772
Force of Will, off the top of my head.
I'm sure anyone could get a basic land just by doing an Avon or something.

>>54983306
You're not the only one, but he hasn't done M:tG art in ages

This may be a stupid question but if I cast Indomitable Creativity, select an artifact to destroy and activate the sac ability on it in response, that doesn't count as the part of the spell anymore does it?

>>54985369
Yes, if a permanent is not there to be destroyed by Indomitable Creativity as it resolves, that permanent's controller won't get the second part of the effect. Same with Indestructible permanents. They must actually be destroyed. Also of course, as usual, if every target is gone it's countered entirely.

>>54984325
Jace practically looks like hes done in a different artstyle compared to the rest and man do the rest not match him in quality.

>>54984325
God, I remember when this shit was spoiled, all I could think of was "what the fuck is this shit". And why it looks like Ajani doesn't know what the fuck he is doing there?

>>54985778
Because at all times Ajani would rather be somewhere else.

>>54985804
Ajani wants to be with Tamiyo
You just KNOW that she's getting BARBED

>>54985804
True.

My friends don't seem to get that you can still be upset by how your deck operates despite winning.

Also, all these fucking enchantments that make creatures ETB tapped are ruining my day.

>>54985804
>my ear itches
>I wish I was back on Alara
>fighting with Elspeth was cooler
>is he trying to become a Super Autist?
>Liliana smells weird
>why are we all posing?
>Nissa and Chandra need to have quieter sex
>is Gideon gay? I think he's hitting on me
>tfw no moonfolk gf

>>54986181
you might be taking the game a little too seriously m8

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>>54986250
>mfw old lady starts perving on me
>mfw i can feel her gross old lady boobs
>mfw she smells like boiled cabbage

>>54985829
Excuse me, Ajani/Elspeth is by far the superior pairing.

>>54984772

Hundreds. Unfortunately, most of them would be useless Alpha/Beta cards that just had a really cool flavor text that stuck with me.

>>54984772
>put that card into your hand

From where? From your library? Outside the game? This isn't Hearthstone where you can just create a copy of a card out of thin air.

>>54986353
It's Silver-bordered. You'd put the piece of paper you drew the card on into your hand.

Rebecca Guay or rk post
least favorite'd be any of the gross CG ones

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Rate, hate, appreciate?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/eddies-party/

>>54986337
Too bad she's fucking dead

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>Pull a foil Scarab God
>Start brewing a Zombie Tribal in my head
>Check prices only to see that Zombies are expensive as fuck

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>>54986437
>tfw death baron reprint never

>>54986373
>It's Silver-bordered.
Not him, but just because it's silver-bordered it doesn't mean that it doesn't need to follow proper mtg wording.

>bought foil Wanderwine Prophets a week ago for $2
>now it costs $15
Very nice.

>>54986427
Death in Theros is probably the softest death is in the whole multiverse. Elspeth's consciousness is still "alive" in the underworld, and it's possible to walk out with a true resurrection under certain circumstances. Elspeth's practically guaranteed to come back.

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>>54986427
So's Daxos and we can see how that went.

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>>54986468
It literally does.
You can destroy cards in other players' games.
You can make people buy you a drink.
You can tear your cards to pieces.
You can write a card like this.

>>54986504
>Elspeth's practically guaranteed to come back.
And as pissed off as never seen before.

What kind of dumb combos can I pull with Beacon of Tomorrow?

>>54984516
Looks like a yugioh dragon.
That's a good thing.

>>54986534
Mardu Elspeth in Return to Theros, which is coming sometime soon because Gideon is going to walk back to his home plane after getting his ass kicked and he's going to meet an actual leader, or at least the shade of one.

>>54986527
Most of the uncards have their own gimmick. All you have said was done in proper wording, and in atinlay igpay's case, the wording was its gimmick.

Wrong wording is not part of that card, so it should have a proper wording just like any other card.

>>54986541
Exile your entire library. Cast Beacon. Draw it next turn. Cast it again. Draw it next turn. Cast it again. You get the idea.

>>54986570
Putting a card you drew a picture of into your hand is arguably the entire gimmick of the card, anon.

>>54980084
>CGI: computer-generated imagery (special visual effects created using computer software).
If it's not traditional painting, it's cgi. MtG has loads of those. What you're probably thinking is about artists using 3D models in their art, which is also true for MtG.

>>54986585
I'm glad we agree that wrong wording is not part of its gimmick, therefore, it should be rewritten.

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>>54986613
Wrong wording can be part of the joke, like "choosing a hand".

There's the obvious setup. It says to "draw a card" on a separate piece of paper. Then you put that card, which you drew, into your hand.

>>54986613
You've yet to actually explain how it's "wrong wording".

>>54986613
The card has you draw a card, any references from that point on are referring to the shitty doodle you just drew when it says "that card".

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>>54981602


but I do

>>54986468
Tell that to Steamflogger Boss, a black-border card that doesn't follow proper wording.

>>54981602
>tfw you drop a winter orb just to be around your waifu for a few more turns
g/w master race

>>54986647
"choose a hand" is not wrongly worded. "hand ... of cards" is though, but it's part of the joke.

>>54986658
>>54986660
It says to draw a card on a piece of paper. Then it tells you to look for the card that you tried to draw oracle text. So, when it tells you put it in your hand, it should refer to the piece of paper, not the card that you tried to draw.

>>54986739
>it should refer to the piece of paper, not the card that you tried to draw.

The card you tried to draw on the piece of paper is "the card".

>>54986721
Steamflogger boss is a Future Sight card. And even if there was a black-bordered card with wrong wording, it doesn't mean that cards should have wrong wording. This is why wizards has the gatherer, so people can check on if the card's oracle text has been updated, or other additional rulings that have not been clear by the card itself.

>>54986708
If you search Google for that image it identifies it as Kaalia and Avacyn. So not only can it recognize that it's MtG art, it can recognize that it's two MtG women and the color identity, it just can't recognize who they actually are.

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>>54986427
we'll see about that

>>54986766
>Steamflogger boss is a Future Sight card.

That's a better defense than being Silver-bordered, in your mind?

>>54986771
I searched and it told me "teysa mtg".

>>54986794
>>54986794
>>54986794
>>54986794
New thread

>>54986784
It shows "mtg teysa porn" for me.
Is this like a personality quiz?

>>54986778
Future Sight was a set for future projects and maybe changes, so it is bound to be different. I would put it on together with Un-series and planar chaos for "don't use these sets as base for custom cards".

>>54986817
Using un-cards as a base is fine if you're setting out to make un-cards.

>>54986809
Showed mtg exava for me, maybe I should switch commanders?

>>54986765
>>54986739
The guy seems to fundamentally not understand the idea of the card.

>>54986854
Are you even reading? You asked if it being from future sight was worse or not than it being a un-series card for card customization. Stop moving goalposts.

Un-cards should have proper wording just like any other UNLESS IT'S PART OF THE GIMMICK. Having wrong wording is not part of that card gimmick, and saying stuff like "b-but steamflogger had wrong wording!" is a childish excuse.

>>54986907
>You asked if it being from future sight was worse or not than it being a un-series card for card customization.

That's not actually what I asked.

>>54986907
You're the only one who seems to think it's "wrong wording".

>>54986939
Since you look like you can't follow the discussion, this is going to be my last reply.
The complaint was about the card being wrongly worded. And then you replied with Steamflogger Boss which is a black-bordered card with wrong wording, and that somehow should be an example of cards being able to have wrong wording despite being a black-bordered card. I replied saying about how it is not a simple black-bordered card and even then, it still should follow proper wording, so it shouldn't be used as base for customs. You then said about how being a un-series card should be more excusable than a future sight card for creating customs. I mean, you know that card is custom, right?

>>54986963
I'm not the only one, I just jumped in because another anon pointed it out.

>>54987021
>And then you replied with Steamflogger Boss

I didn't actually reply with Steamflogger Boss.

>>54987041
You should pay more attention to what you are defending before jumping in the middle of a discussion then.

>>54987059
I thought that was going to be your last reply.

>>54987021
>You then said about how being a un-series card should be more excusable than a future sight card for creating customs.

For someone who's complaining about reading, you sure read into things a lot more than you should. I'm not seeing your mental gymnastics for >>54986778 meaning anything like that.

>>54980254
clique's fine, ulamog is honestly fine, ramos doesn't scale up well but you can at least argue it's because he's a shiny metal dragon engine or something, kraken is boring but at least the composition isn't "Here's a straight shot at a big monster, look at how big and scurry it is, hurr", it actually like, lurks in the deep

That elf has no fucking excuse, it wasn't SOI/EMN yet at that time and that is not the face of fear or pain, that art should have been scapped

thank god it's on a card that is shit

>>54980775
>casually suspend Wheel of Fate
>rest of the table gang up on me, because they don't want to discard the fatties in their hands in the next 4 turns to come
Playing with casuals is a bittersweet sensation.

>>54987597
My problem with Ramos is that it doesn't set the size of the dragon properly. There's no atmospheric haze like with Ulamog yet the scenery suggests that he's quite big. In the end it looks like one art crudely pasted onto another.