Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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1st for Martellus is sick of your shit

>>54978375
CSM FLAKK missile stratagem, does it do additional 3 MORTAL wounds or replaces the d6?

>>54978433
Post picture

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>>54978375

New Deathwatch codex when? Primaris flyer when?

I want Primaris Deathwatch (pic-related, not my model), and the Repulsor is too slow.

>>54978424
I can almost hear the binaric screeching

xth for Tzaangors are best meatshields

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>tfw the fun of 2++ Grand Master Dreadknights only lasted a week.

>>54978443
Nice model, is it yours?

>>54978452
How did GW not notice that immediately? First thing that came to mind, stacking invulns for the GMNDK. That and psybolt storm bolters

>>54978470
>Most playtested edition ever!™

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>>54978442
there

>>54978475
It is one thing to not catch stupid combos that only the WAACest of WAACest will twist words to get. But literally putting together basic abilities in a small codex is nothing obscure or tricky

Is the dual Soulburner Decimator still gud?

>>54978433
It says you only make 1 hit roll so definitely no d6

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Reposting for non dead thread

Showed up super late to Terrain Day but was still super chill. Lots of cool new additions to the store boards.

>>54978488
Looks like replace
>You only make ONE hit role with this weapon THIS PHASE
Swap saveable wounds with mortals

>>54978501
>IG friend opens Index
>who let the commissar and conscript combo pass?

>>54978433
Just the mortal wounds. Weapons that do additional mortal wounds, like snipers, call it out.

>>54978488
Do they hire people that have english as fourth language like me or something?
Who the fuck wrote 8th rules?

>>54978443
Years. Why did you pick worst marines?

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FUCK THE BLOOD ANGELS

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>>54978585
Axe fight!

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FUCK THE BLACK TEMPLARS

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FUCK THE SPACE WOLVES

Have any of the FW chapters gotten chapter tactics or do we have to pick from the codex ones?

>>54978633

Probably never or in 2+ years, which might as well be never.

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>>54978632
COME AT ME BRO

>>54978633
You'll have you poorly edited index and make it last for 2 years

>>54978653
Does that dread have a sheild?

>>54978598
He is angry because his head is tiny

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>>54978653
Swing at me then brah

>>54978678
Yes
Only SW figured out you can make a BIGGER Storm Shield

>>54978693
Thunderhammer Dreads when?

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How do you stay motivated to keep working on your models? Every time it gets tedious I jump to another project.

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Is the Kytan Ravager any good? It's main cannon looks solid and either 15 (!) S10 AP2/Dd3 or five S20 (!) AP4 D6 attacks are awesome, and it can gib most any titan-thing in Merle, but 501 points ain't cheap.

Anybody use one?

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>>54978632
Agreed, fuck the Space Wolves.

>>54978717
Helbrutes have hammers

Wish Night Lords got Raptors as troops, as well as the other legions getting their iconic units as troops too.

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>>54978607
CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY SWORD IN YOUR GUT SHITBOOT.

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>>54978598
Some one say somfin bout a fight?

>>54978718
Dont do a bunch at once. I have been working on painted my Flayed Hoes for 3 days and I only have one finished. Do it in the early evening when the sun is still up, do it outside if its not that bad, humid, or otherwise yuck. And take pride in your work.

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Anyone used Electropriests in the new edition yet? I saw the rules and decided to make a whole bunch to play countercharge and deal with big beasties and Primarchs, but I doubt I'll get any use out of them this week since I'm still on #8/20. Shame, if they were finished building by Wednesday I could try out the new mission and deepstrike a full score of them onto the enemy's face, which would be fun.

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>>54978748
I'd like this to happen just to see Iron Warriors stuck with Obliterator troops instead of Havocs.

>>54978452
God dammit that scene would have been so much better if they'd animated his head jerking to the side after the gunshot. The way it ended up we get a huge splatter of blood and then fucking nothing's changed.

11 points for Chaos today at my store.

Faced a GK player. I felt a little dirty about summoning demons for free, but Grandmaster Dreadknights that come back on a 4+ cured me of that.

I won, but he killed an additional 70 power worth of demons before collapsing in front of my lines.

Can someone confirm that a supersonic flyer gets removed as a casualty if its base is overlapping a model? Such a fucking bullshit rule

>>54978857
If there's nowhere to place it, yes.
You should have a massive movement band, though. Is the entire board conscripts or something?

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>>54978801
>implying Obliterator troops would be a bad thing

Has one man ever been so wrong?

I like contemptors because they look like really big space marines.

>>54978488
>>54978535
>>You only make ONE hit role with this weapon THIS PHASE

Well that is what you do when you shoot a krak missile, it is probably there so you cant shoot d6 frag that does d3 mortal each.

I have no fkn idea.

Advice on a quick 50 pl Craftworld army?

Asurmen
Farseer
Dire Avengers x 5
Dire Avengers x 5
Dire Avengers x 5
War Walkers x 3
Warlocks x 2
Dark Reapers x 3

Not really sure how these units handle, just picking ones I like the look of. Thinking of swapping the reapers for rangers. Advice would be welcome.

>>54978857
You mean if there's no location it can go it's minimum move without overlapping a model's base? Yes., you can't stand a flyer on top of other models (For a host of good reasons) and a supersonic flyer is destroyed if it doesn't move minimum distance.

>>54978851
Unmovable line of demon hunting Grey Knights holding the line against endless waves of demons.
Sounds like it was a fun game.

>>54978424
wait... isn't that a techmarine? Why wouldn't the techmarine be flying in the first place?

>>54978875

It just makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Why would FUCKING THINGS ON THE GROUND cause a flyer to be destroyed or run off from battle? If anything the flyer should force infantry to pile out so they aren't directly underneath its vents or something.

>>54978851
>That come back on a 4+
Explain. I'm under the impression that a unit still has to exist on the board to revive it and GMNDK's are not Infantry.

>>54978900
No, Blood Raven squads have 1 mechanic each. Their techmarines are more teched out.

>>54978905
It's not just infantry, other flyers, monsters and vehicles would also do it.

>>54978905
Because otherwise it becomes
>Place the model wherever the fuck you want

Can dreadnoughts become daemon princes?

>>54978905
Fluff wise, sure.

Crunch wise it's to stop assbutts like you abusing it

>>54978949
Possibly, but they wouldn't be a dreadnought anymore.

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>>54978911

>>54978949
>>54978956
>Dreadnought becomes DP
>Transforms into a Knight
>Knight Daemon Prince ascended to Greater Daemon
>Becomes Imperator class

>>54978960
>Konor mission

Ooohhhh, okay. I didn't know you were playing the mission. I thought he brought it back with an Apothecary.

>>54978905
Mainly for physical playability reasons.

Also because otherwise flyers could hover right above a character and snipe them out.

>>54978984
You could also use them to kill units by shoving them into places they can't go.

>>54978780
Yeah, they're pretty fun. Be careful though, no matter what buffs they've got the fuckers have 1 wound and T3, and as such some spare bolsters can ruin their day.

So run in multiple squads of 7-10 and get to melee ASAP. Preferably hop from combat to combat, and focus on elite stuff- you're better off against measly 4 attacks from a dreadnought than 20 from some marines, cause AP and D mean 0 to you

>>54978727
That thing could be the best unit in the entire CSM range and I'd still avoid it like the plague. Those legs look fucking terrible.

>>54978732
Yeah but it's complete shit.

>>54978521
The fuck is a terrain day?

>>54979011
Convert the legs, dumb dumb.

Anyone have any advice for running Black Templars? I've lost 7 games in a row now, and it seems like I never have enough units to even stand a chance.

>>54978780
Fulgurites are absolute monsters. Pick on a weak unit to smash them to bits with mortal wounds in the charge phase then finish them off to activate a 3++. I've seen them destroy entire units of gaunts on the opponent's turn and march on unscathed. Sucks if your opponent targets them first though as they will drop like flies early on.

Check the mathhammer doc.

>>54979028
Do you run 3 20 man squads?

>>54979028
Post your list dude

GW wants to give Slaanesh and Khorne their own mini daemons and are paying you to help with ideas and design. What will you make them look like?

Please rate/opine on my list. 2149/2150

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [75 PL, 1367pts]

HQ

Brother-Captain [9 PL, 183pts]: Gate of Infinity, Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Psycannon
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 300pts]: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Incinerator, Nemesis Daemon Greathammer, Sanctuary, Warlord

Troops
3 Strike Squads [7 PL, 117pts] each: Hammerhand
3x Grey Knight (Halberd)
Grey Knight (Psycannon)
Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Elites
Apothecary [5 PL, 103pts]: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Sanctuary
Paladin Ancient [7 PL, 142pts]: Storm Bolter and Falchion, Vortex of Doom
Paladin Squad [19 PL, 288pts]: Purge Soul
4x Paladin (Halberd)
Paragon: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm Bolter

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [42 PL, 782pts]

HQ
Grey Knight Chaplain [8 PL, 146pts]: Fury of Deimos, Gate of Infinity, Storm bolter

Heavy Support
Land Raider Crusader [16 PL, 293pts]: Hunter-killer Missile, 2x Hurricane Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon
Nemesis Dreadknight [11 PL, 230pts]:Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon Greathammer, Vortex of Doom
Purgation Squad [7 PL, 113pts]: Astral Aim
4x Purgator (Psilencer)
Purgator Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd, Storm bolter

>>54979079
Khorne gets Floating sentient weapons or something like that. Slannesh gets noise marine esque throwaway sonic flamer screaming daemon things.

>>54979079
We've had this discussion
Khorne gets tiny ankle biter skulls
Slaanesh gets a floppy penises that hold you down

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What comedy tabs do you enjoy in your screenshot posts?

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>>54978801
>Dark Eldar scenes from a hat
>"Something you could say about your raiding party, but not your prisoners!"

>>54979079
>Slaanesh
Daemon Squats cause gonna be squatted
>Khorne
rip and tear biting mini things

>>54979127
>You'll all die tonight!

>>54979079
Mini Khorne: lost soul type dude
Mini Slaanesh: whatever juan diaz would do

>>54979127
>Time to go home

>>54978727
Lord of skulls is a better option now since it costs only 623 with it's best loadout.

>>54979120
http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1503279100900.jpg

>>54978894
I've tried that exact list, your avengers will die to bolter fire on turn one. Since foot eldar have so many deployments you'll go second and not have any of your psychic buffs. Either find a transport for them or drop your list to 4 or less deployments so you have a reasonable chance of going first.

Also foot dark reapers need to deploy hidden, or they'll be taken out too.

>>54978375
So, question:

Guardsmen or Custodes? After another abysmal game with my Admech, I'm looking for another army to fill the void.

As for Guard, I like the idea of heavily mehanized force that goes straight into the enemy, while being supported by fast moving tanks like Hellhounds or Banewolfs. I also hear a IG book is in the works.

As for Custodes, If I play marines, I want to play marines+++. The Chads who show the chadlets and marinelets whose daddy's REAL favorites are, and can fuck up pretty much anyone in CC while Sisters of Silence ride their Guardian Spears. Plus, I hear that they just got a new phamplet in their box.

Any advice on either? If I go for Chads, I'm thinking about picking up the ToftE box for cheap Transports. Only question is, which HQ should I use?

Which army would Guy Fieri fit into?

Anybody else who spent too much money on minis when they were too young and now look back to poorly built models and cry?
I have a valkyrie with no finns for example.
Gonna see if i can make some with plasticard.

>>54979202
Problem with Custodes is this
In 7th, if they were hit with a lascannon they laughed and laughed and laughedIn 8th, if they are hit with a las cannon, it probably rolls high enough to just kill him

>>54979210
Slaanesh

>>54979212

Get a good job.
Buy bits on eBay.
Problem solved.

>>54979212
>implying GW are hard to assemble

Scions vs skitarii vs marineletts? Which is better in the lore and in tt?

>>54979079
>Slaanesh
Cherubs with Slaaneshi Iconography and crab claws or something
>Khorne
Literally red Grots with horns

>>54979127
>"I'm glad to see you made it back in one piece."

>>54979079
loli daemonettes

Just how powerful is an Imperator-Class Titan? Would it be able to take on the combined might of our world's armed forces and win?
Can it survive nukes?

>>54979227
That's why I will probably run them with the board and Sword loadout, so as to minimize that risk.

But your right, that does hurt when it can get through the 3++. So the question, who can I throw into help with that?

>>54979210
Slaanesh.

With some kind of hot sauce dispenser counts as Doom Siren.

>>54979098
>>54979098
I'm waacin' it, so anything you don't like that I say is no problem at all, just maybe not as good. That being said...
>drop GM and take draigo/voldus
>drop chaplain, useless
>everything that can have falchions, should.
>take at least 1 full strike squad for the psybolt strat+psychic targeting
>and make the other min, no hammers or psyweapons, either go all-out with purgation or not at all
>falchions
>dreadknight incinerator isn't really worth it imo
>never, ever take the regular dreadknight
>never everer take a land raider- deep strike, stormraven, or more paladins
>moar falchions
>a razorback or two wouldn't hurt

Overall not bad, could use some shine for competitive stuff though

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>>54979079
Khorne gets Lost Souls, no doubt about it.

anyone ran a small admech force in 8th? 750 points? what would i take.

Gonna pick up an Ork starter pack in October. Should I go with a preexisting klan for my paint job, or is it OK to start making my own fluff for my own klan?

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Does anyone know how you can achieve this grey?
I think it look nice and I'll get around to painting my Death Guard soon.

>>54979188
Thanks man. I'm keen to keep them foot based because I'm also running dark eldar packed with transports and want a change of pace. I'll mess around with the squads to try streamline it, maybe add more rangers and swooping hawks.

>>54979262
>Which is better in the lore and in tt?

Marines.

What sleeps under Titan? Mars has the Void Dragon but what else is out there, another C'tan?

>>54979079
Alright, continuation I should have put in the first post:
What sort of rules would you give mini daemons for those gods?

>>54979079
Khorne- Chihuahua versions of Flesh hounds. Just ankle sized dogs with oversized heads and piranha teeth.

Slaanesh- Weird little butterfly type things with gaudy luminescent wings and contact hallucinogens.

>>54978579
what exactly is the problem with this?

>>54979318
>marines
Marines are shit in lore and table top

>>54979079
>Khorne
Brass spiders. They're little mechanical looking spiders made of brass that are basically animated skull cages.

>Slaanesh
Basically chaos Will-o-Wisps or traditional Faeries. Tiny flying daemonettes that fuck with your desires and steal you away and/or rip you to shreds.

>>54979278
Land Raider?

>>54979291
I appreciate you taking the time to even reply, luckily I think the only other army I own that would see tourney play if I ever decided to go to one is my DE.

Falchions on everything for the sheer amount of choppy? What's bad about regular Dreadknight now?
Also, opinions on the Stormhawk/Stormtalon?

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>>54979239
FLAVOUR MARINES

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For those who have worked with the kits, a question - how compatible are the arms between the Intercessor and Reiver kits? They look a bit different, but are they interchangeable?

>>54979349
Better than Skitarii or Scions though.

>>54979422
False

>>54979384
Reiver arms are less bulky. More MkVII than MkX

>>54979434
He's right you know; at least Scions have Deep Strike, Admech just have to walk and get shot all day long

>>54979434
How so?
Budget cyborgs and budget Marines are no match for Marines.

>>54979307
looks like Eshin grey highlighted with something lighter, maybe dawnstone? is that pic from WD? might have info there

>>54979079
Khorne: Floating semi-sentient skulls filled with explosives. They rush at you and explode.

Slaanesh: Ethereal banshee like deamonettes that lure you to your doom.

>>54979359
That's a given, though the LR is pretty pricey. But yeah, a LR is pretty much the best way Custodes have to get up the field.

What HQ should I use? A stock Inq?

>>54979468
>looks like Eshin grey highlighted with something lighter, maybe dawnstone?

Could be it.

>is that pic from WD? might have info there

It is, but it doesn't give the scheme.

Can someone confirm for me how intervening models work with LOS? Is it just
1) If the target unit is totally obscured by intervening models, you can't shoot it
2) if the target unit has at least one model not at all obscured, you can shoot it without any cover penalty
3) if at least one target model is visible, but all are at least 50% obscured, cover bonus
and that goes for both enemy/friendly units?

>>54978585
>>54978607
>>54978632
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR

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>>54979349

>>54979462
AP-2 va AP0 sure says otherwise

And lore wise, one chillion scion/skitarii die, nothing bad happens they still are a caple fighting force. Marines lose 1000 and they are pretty much a dead chapter waiting to happen

Hence marines are inferior

>>54979443
Hrm. You think with the correct shoulder pads, the reiver arms would work on Intercessor bodies? I've got some ideas for conversions to the Intercessor's, and I'd like to use the more dynamic arms from the Reiver kit. Just worried about dropping money on both kits only to have them not look passable.

>>54979532
1 and 2 are correct, 3 is not. You don't get any cover bonus for intervening models, only for being wholly within terrain.

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>>54978851
Good for you Anon! I kicked the AdMech in the cog with my Thousand Sons, largely by hunkering down in cover with durable Rubrics and Tzaangors while my Rhinos and Daemon Engines kept charging and pushing back the main line of robots and Cawl. He couldn't dig me out and conceeded at the end of turn four, unable to get close enough to take any objectives and unable to shoot me off.

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I SMELL THE RATS OF MENDACITY
NAPALM FOR YOUR NUDITY
I PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH MY GOD
DEHYDRATION OF YOUR BLOOD

>>54979320
Well
>>54979355

>Brass Spiders
Headcage: To hit rolls of a 6+ cause a mortal wound against infantry instead of dealing normal damage.
Skulls for the Skull Throne: This unit gets +1 to hit against infantry for the rest of the game at the end of any turn it inflicted one or more mortal wounds.

>Alluring Sprites
Low strength, maybe 2 with a few wounds for being a swarm
Distracting Allure: Enemies within 3" have -1 to hit
Gleeful Murder: Generates an additional attack for each hit of a 6+
Excessive Violence: -1AP +1S for each hit

>>54979563
It'd probably end up fine, but the right arms of Reivers come with a shoulder pad attached, smaller and of different style to a normal one.

>>54979069
>>54979062
Holy fuck sorry I'm having wifi problems

Black Templars Battalion Detachment 998/1000 pts
HQ:
Captain
>Relic Blade
>Combi-Melta

Chaplain
>Bolt Pistol

Troops:
Crusader Squad:
>7x Initiate w/chainsword
>Sword Brother w/ Power Fist
>Initiate w/ Flamer

Crusader Squad:
>2x Initiate w/ Bolter
>Sword Brother w/ Combi-Plasma
>Initiate w/ plasma gun
>Initiate w/ Missile Launcher

Crusader Squad:
>2x Initiate w/ Bolter
>Sword Brother w/ Combi-Plasma
>Initiate w/ plasma gun
>Initiate w/ Missile Launcher

Elites:
Dreadnought:
>CCW w/ Heavy Flamer
>Autocannon

Heavy Support
Predator:
>Predator Autocannon
>Twin Lascannon

Dedicated Transport
Rhino

Chaplain rides with CC crusader squad in the Rhino while the captain buffs all the shooty units

How do I stop being curbstomped?

Chaos Anons, post your Death Guard! I've primed three models to test paint one and I'm uncertain what colors I should use. I wanted to use the bone white armor, but then I was uncertain what color to paint horns and bone then. Or I could go with a green, ut my store doesn't have the death guard green paint yet. Or does that paint also come out in September?

>>54979641
>Black Templars
>not running at least 3 full crusaders squads
Come back when you are actually playing BT

>>54979641
>ranged black templars
Top kek

>>54979568
Thanks friendo

>>54978581
This t b h famalamadingdong

>>54979641

Use different chapter tactics.

>>54979022
Exactly what it sounds like. Are you dense?

>>54979654
I'm still traumatized by how shitty assault was in 7th. I figured I'd abused the 3 special weapons crusade squads can get so I can have ok anti-armor
>>54979653
>3 full crusader squads
>in a 1000 pt list
ISHYGDDT

>>54979643
>but then I was uncertain what color to paint horns and bone then.

Black/dark grey or brown. Rotten bone.

>>54979666
But all my dudes are painted. I have to do this, my meta is basically entirely parking lot guard and shooty orks.

How do Dark Eldar fare in this edition?
I'm thinking about finishing that army I started a few years ago.

>>54979488
Ask the person you play with if a single Custode can be elevated to HQ status?

Worst answer is
>CHEATER, CHEATER YOU HAVE CP NOW YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE CP, CP ARE MINE

>>54979694
Hmm, that could work, thanks!

>>54979682
They are about 700 points more less.

>>54979699

And your dudes are ranged. The whole point of BT tactics is to get as many dudes into melee as possible. You're not even using any BT characters. Nobody is going to care if you decide to run your BT-painted army with different tactics.

>>54979682
If you play Black Templars you should be maximizing the benefits of your chapter tactics. Leave the heavy weapons to your vehicles, templars are meant to face the enemy in honorabru close combat.

>>54979719
Apparently decently well. Hoping to bust out a game with them in the next 2 weeks.

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>>54979608
ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ!

ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ!

ORKZ!

>We're not going anywhere scary are we?

ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKS ORKS!

ORKZ!

ORKZ!

ORKZ!

>TIME FER FOOTSLOGGIN BOYZ!

ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ!

>I'M DA BIGGEST SO I'M DA BOSS!

ORKZ!

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What went wrong?
How the hell was this published?

>>54979641
>says he plays BT
>no squad is bigger than 10
>might as well play black marines
Sell your models already, you are not playing BT

Does target saturation work against non-waac gunlines? I'm thinking of running a WE list composed of rhino zerkers, slaughter ticks and a land raider.

>>54979727
Going completely all in on the "NO SPRUE-NO-RULES" doctrine was the worst thing geedubs has ever done.
> Custodians not having an HQ choice because GW doesn't trust us to make our own model for it.
> Primaris marines having no options at all.
> Primaris characters having no customization because they have a CAD-CUT kit with no optional parts.
> 100% of no-model characters removed outright.

>>54979770
Horus Heresy books are a mistake.
We can argue that any 40k book with marines as the main character will be bad automatically

Anyone got the audiobook mega?

>>54979719
Really well against Marines because blasters and lances are perfect at killing Marines in cover, and we get many.

Are there any good novels revolving around Orks?

>>54979786
>blame consumers for their bad sales

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>>54979643
Here is a super high rez pic of typhus on my phone.

You can carefully scan the image and see my fuck ups.

>>54978718
Paint like an assembly line.
Do a little bit every day.
Don't be a bitch.

>>54979786
>>54979819
Hopping on that. No Plastic Sisters because Sisters don't sell well. Sisters don't sell well because they're fucking metal.

>>54979854
And legal across the world now. They could legally drink in almost every country now.

Oh two death Cult assassins cost almost the same as one SoS kit...

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>>54979643
sorry about shitty pic but this is my plague marines so far. first models I've done in about a year or so. Great fun to paint

>>54979127
>"I wish you would fight more"

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>>54978851
>power
>GW store

Can we talk about lore? Thats the only thing about 40k I like.

>>54979770
Because ADB and Laurie Goulding bully people into writing stuff they want. Goulding has thankfully fucked off to Riot to ruin their non-existent fluff; but that leaves ADB in charge who is, and I hate this word, a nu-male. The dude doesn't get anything and thinks Chaos winning is cool and Goulding agrees and they cite shit said at the beginning of 40k by Preston and shit as 'proof' it was always gonna happen.

Well guess what? Nobody likes Chaos winning now, except Carnac. It's just terrible. Ben Counter used to be good, especially his GK book(s), but when he must do what ADB wants? WEW.

>>54979770
Book started to make sense when I replaced space marines for GI Joe and Word Bearers with Cobra

>>54979910
Only if it is from 4th or older

>>54979634
Well, I'll have to see how it goes then. Thanks for the info.
Making me some assault primaris of the minotaurs flavor, but those Intercessor arms are not really designed for dynamic movement.

>>54979910
Sure.

Who do you think is the legitimately happiest person in the 40k universe? As in fewest bad days/ brightest future ahead of them?

>>54979882
>Abbaddon has graduated from college in the US

>>54979917

On the bright side of all this, look at the competition results. The Imperium is the underdog in the current lore, and people i.e. Americans are fighting the good fight as the underdog.

>>54979769
do you wait til you get your squigoff to push or do you just crank out shoota boyz and looted tankz until you win the war of attrition?

>>54979925
4th what? I've only read a few books and a lot from the wika's.

Fun shit.

>>54979940
The Orks man. They get to fight all the fuckin time, they love it and they don't even know about how everything is doomed in the end.

>>54979940
The random bar maid in a paradise world with zero strategic importance or worth outside of being a paradise world

>>54979839
That a gun, or just the destroyer plague?

>>54979962
Who would be the happiest ork though? Most of them end in getting gunned down by something.

>>54979963
Those ass pinches gotta start hurting after a while.

>>54979968
Both, in 30k they decided his load out should match his 40k version.

So they gave him a !notdestroyerhive

>>54979956
I'Z A GOFF, SO 'ORDES OF FOOTSLOGGIN BOYZ.

>>54979882
That too. Who in the FUCK wants to pay $100 for 10 metal models who's sculpts have been "current" for at least 5 times the length that Yugoslavia existed as a country.

>>54979951
I just hate it. Chaos winning isn't grimdark and edgy. It's just shit. Why can't 40k be about fighting against impossible odds to win? Why can't it be about humanity uniting to face a threat? Why can't it be about a common cause is worth banding together to fight for?

No. Instead it's 'lol Chaos won when Magnus blew the wards on the Terran webway GG2EZ'

>>54979999
>Sorry. Brainfart. Five times the length of time it took Yugoslavia to break up.

>>54979990
I think they all know they'll be gunned down eventually and don't mind. Or too dumb to know/care.

I bet the biggest boss ork would be the happiest one cause he doesn't just fight but decides who they all fight. Whoever is leading the current WAAAGH

>>54979990
It is a grim dark future after all. Some ass pinches are part of the setting

On a side note I wish world classification return to 3rd when it show a competent Imperium and not a grim derp one with all edge and no point

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>>54979940
Papa Nurgle is always happy. His son Morty is a little gloomy, but the rest of us are all chipper fellows.

Which is better, wika or lexicanum???????

>>54980011
What are you, 5? The 'good-guys' don't always win. If they did, it would be boring as fuck.

>>54980038
Lexicanum.

>>54980043
>good guys
>40k
The only good guy in 40k is either the Ratling Garderner, Jurgen or Nork

>>54979274

The only correct answer

>>54980038
read a book

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>>54980072
and this guy

>>54980037
Actually, Plaguebearers are traditionally much more serious and focused on counting diseases.

Frankly, I don't mind losing that for jolly Snail Samurai there.

>>54979786
>100% of no-model characters removed outright.
So that is why the Enclave characters are mia. No unique models
Lame

>>54980099
But BL books are awful

>>54978443
Primaris have two flyers, a 15 man and a 40 man transport.

Forgeworld only l, pay up :^)

>>54980037
Actually plaguebearers are very gloomy because they're usually made out of the souls of unwilling victims of Nurgle's diseases

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Any C&C on my two Meganob conversions? Still removing some mold lines and I'll try to fill in some gaps but I was wondering if this looked ok to you. Regular Meganobz for reference beside and behind them. Kustom Force Field is poorly magnetized.

>>54979364
Sorry for the delayed reply, but
>falchions are badass because an extra attack is fucking bananas in 90% of situations, 31 attacks on a strike squad is insane
>like it synergizes so well with other stuff it's not even funny, you lose +1S/AP for an extra -2 Dd3 attack. Plus it's really easy to hit and wound with buffs
>regular dreadknights aren't bad per se, but 60 points for the 2+BS/WS on a GM and an extra attack makes it better. Means those guns and hammer can actually be used.
>both flavors of storm- aren't bad, personally I think a tad over costed as it's like 50 points more for a stormhawk, which has the same guns plus more and is tougher, AND can carry troops.

>>54980058
Why though

>>54980099
I have but for general knowledge or reference

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>>54980037

>>54978470
The stacking invuls was dumb but I can't imagine psybolts as anything but intentional

>>54980118
only most of them.

>>54980147
Wiki uses fanart, headcanon and generally makes up shit.

Has anyone gotten a hold of the new Talons of the Emperor booklet to see if there's anything different in it then what's in the index?

>>54980143
I almost forgot. How about Dreadnoughts now that we can't make them Riflemen? Are Doomglaives better?

>>54979666
>>54979654
>>54979653
>>54979732
>>54979741
Fuck it then, how's this? I've been neglecting a lot of chainsword marines.

Black Templars Battallion 1000/1000 pts

HQ:

Chaplain
>Plasma Pistol

Emperor's Champion

Troops:

Crusader Squad:
>9x Initiate with Chainsword
>Sword Brother with Powerfist
>5x Shotgun Meatshields

Crusader Squad
>9x Initiate with Chainsword
>Sword Brother with Powerfist
>5x Shotgun Meatshields

Crusade Squad
>3x Initiates w/ Bolter
>Initiate w/ Heavy Bolter
>Initiate w/ Plasma Gun
>Sword Brother with Combi-Plasma

Elites:

Ironclad Dreadnought:
>Chainfist
>Hurricane Bolter
>Heavy Flamer

Heavy Support:

Predator:
>Predator Autocannon
>Twin Lascannon

The only thing I'd need to buy would be an Ironclad Dreadnought, and I've wanted one of those for a while anyways.

>>54980152

I didn't mean psy storm strategem was unintended. But that it was one of the few combos I immediately noticed

>>54980110

maybe thats the non empire release. HQ character models

>>54980164
Wiki seems longer and more detailed.

>>54980180
Dreads can still take autocannons. I thought gw posted something specifically about this.

how many predators should i take for a 2000p Thousand Sons army?

>>54980191
Get a land raider crusader

>>54980219
9

>>54980234
I own two. The points cost just seems pretty excessive at 1000 pts.

>>54980234

Poor schmuck probably can't afford a land raider.

>>54979940
That couple from the Night Lords books who escaped and had a kid seemed like a good end for them.

I picked up a heldrake preassembled off of ebay, and he is painted. I have the space to transport him, but someone said they are way easier to move if the wings come off. Should I try and cut him or just let him be a mild hassle as he is?

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>>54979333
>wut

Leaving aside the problem that the target in this strategem is a flyer with a missile launcher, the greater problem is that GW devs are too speshul to adopt the otherwise universal abbreviation of die (lower case 'd') as in d6, d8, d10, etc, compounded by their use of the upper case D as shorthand for Damage in a system THEY WROTE where d3 or d6 Damage is possible. Readers are left to ponder whether 'D3' means 3 Damage or d3 Damage because dev snowflakes cannot outside their smug bubble, where 'dice' is evidently considered a singular noun.

HTH

>>54980208
The lexicanum's information is more concise and better sourced.

>>54980285
I'm pretty sure anyone who isn't on the spectrum can figure out what the stratagem means.

>>54980043
No, I've been in this hobby for 22 years and I've seen Chaos win in WHFB and I've seen Chaos win in Black Crusade 13 event (despite retcon). I don't mind Chaos winning, or I didn't mind, hell, I started playing Chaos when I got involved. I just don't want them to win NOW. I hate what they're doing. A single book has invalidated the whole fucking setting for me, from Imperials to Xenos to Chaos. Literally everything that happens is utterly irrelevant.

Once upon a time, GW went with the thought process of "Give everybody a 'Win Game' solution". For example

>Imperium: Everybody becomes Alpha++ pysker and wipes Chaos out/Emperor returns and wipes out Chaos
>Orks: Orks stop fighting each other and unite and sweep the galaxy
>Eldar: They unite and find all the Shards of Khaine, various weapons and other McGuffins
>Dark Eldar: Find a way to permamently live forever and the same as Eldar in some respects
>Necrons: All wake up and launch campaigns under a single ruler to retake the galaxy
>T'au: Beat the galaxy with superior tech, dogma and belief system.
>Nids: Eat everything on their way to the Emperor, eat the Emperor, wipe everything out including Chaos (and my personal head canon is they're Old Ones creations, long story)
>Chaos: Kill the Emperor, silence the Astronomican and let the EoT expand to consume the galaxy

Except none of those will happen. Chaos won as soon as Magnus destroyed the webway protection. End of. That's it. Horus dying? Irrelevant. Scouring? The next 10k years? Abaddon himself? Pointless. All pointless. Chaos wins, everybody dies.

Every faction had a 'win' goal to go for, except GW didn't want that or they didn't care. So they let BL decide who wins before anybody even got to their end state.

>>54980180
Like the other guy said, you can still doublegun, and that's nice to take. I love my doomglaive, the lil tike stomped a trio of terminators with his psycannon in one go and split a daemon prince in half in one game, in a single fight. D6 damage is bonkers especially with other buffs

A regular dread is fine, nice way to grab some mid-power punch and lascannons. Your regular dudes are just as capable of dealing melee damage though, so remember that

>>54980336
Pretty much
Lack of win cons for everyone but chaos just makes everyone hate chaos. GW doesn't seem to comprehend this

>>54980336
>A single book
What books is this? If it's so bad why not just ignore it?

Any C&C on this list?

Iron Warriors Vanguard
>Winged Prince - 2x Talons(Warlord) <Fleshmetal Skeleton><Unholy Fortitude>
>Chaos Lord - Combi-bolter
>Helbrute - Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher
>Helbrute - Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher
>Helbrute - Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher

Alpha Legion Battalion
>Jump Pack Chaos Lord - Combi-plasma, Power Axe
>Jump Pack Chaos Sorcerer - Force Stave, Combi-bolter
>10x Chaos Cultists
>10x Chaos Cultists
>10x Chaos Cultists
>5x Chaos Terminators - 5x Combi-plasma, 4x Power Axe, Power Fist (on the champ)

World Eaters Spearhead
>Winged Prince - 2x Talons
>Maulerfiend - Maulerfiend Fists, 2x Lasher Tendrils
>Maulerfiend - Maulerfiend Fists, 2x Lasher Tendrils
>Maulerfiend - Maulerfiend Fists, 2x Lasher Tendrils

8 Total CP

The Sorcerer takes Prescience and Warptime and the IW Prince takes Diabolic Strength. The terminators are Mark of Slaanesh to take advantage of Endless Cacophony.

>>54979940
That couple from the Night Lords books who escaped and had a kid seemed like a good end for them.

>>54979127
>The medical staff on hand cannot treat a puncture wound of that size.

>>54980396
It's MoM, and we do. It's not fucking canon, BL and FW have accepted GW at large doesn't care about their oc donutsteel stories, and only write what they (Phil Kelly) like and, most importantly, what sells. If there is an endtimes imperium wins hands-down, nnoooooo way gw misses the grab available there

>>54980398
I have a helbrute in my army and I am wondering if he is actually worth it. Why do you go missile launcher over fist?

>>54980396
Because it's not possible to ignore. It's part of the setting now. Unless GW come out and say it is not relevant any more or write something that cancels it, it is facts. Even outside the setting, GW (and BL is GW) authors have said that Chaos wins.

This defeats the point. I would be happy with a null point, where nobody is winning and everybody has a win goal to go for. Because right now it makes me feel like I'm playing for no reason. It's sad, it's autistic, but I like to pretend MY DUDES are actually fighting for something. In the case of Chaos, to kill the Emperor. In the case of the Imperials, to hold the line until the Emperor returns or we all became pyskers which control their powers. Or whatever the xenos want.

Instead I have to live with the fact GW has essentially gone "Chaos wins and it has already won 10k years ago. Sorry!". Even if I was using my CSM to play, I'm not playing to 'win' any more. I'm just... you know, playing. Since Chaos won 10k years ago. My experience has been lessened because GW cannot put reigns on their BL writers and BL writers do not understand that alienating your readers and writing an afterword going "lol you're prob going to hate this but tough shit lol :^)" doesn't make me feel better. Nor does admitting you're a chaos fanboy help.

>>54980444
The only way GW will ever do a Imperial win is if something takes the place of Chaos. An even greater threat. So, no. Unlikely. At BEST, GW would end the setting and do an AoS reboot where the whole shit starts again.

>>54979940
Tuska Daemon-Killa.

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>>54980180
>How about Dreadnoughts now that we can't make them Riflemen?
If it's in the index, you can use it. There's no room for doubt.

>>54980208
Because they make shit up or outright copies book segments. Then don't source shit.

>>54979653
>not running at least 3 full crusaders squads
>Come back when you are actually playing BT

>tfw you are Templars but only have 2 full crusader squads.
Feels bad man.

>>54980445

Just want them to sit there and shoot - no need or desire for them to get in combat. They're less expensive predators that can occasionally shoot twice and that benefit from CT.

>>54980495
What?
Do you really believe that 40k will ever reach a resolution?

>>54978727
well why dont you try looking at the stompa, 1000+ plus with weapons, as killy as a knight about 1/3 the points cost, and you tell me.

>>54980336

Except its not a single book. You're overreacting to the initial result of the clock moving a full second closer to midnight. The end game is more or less obvious to deduce at this point.

>Long War Traitors: will eventually get to Terra and "kill" the God Emperor because Drachnyen is like one of the most important characters in the setting now pro-tip: it would just free the God Emperor from the Materium whereby He would perform dimensional suplexes on the other Ruinous Powers.
>Imperium: basically trying to hold on to what it has, while Guilliman tries to foster increased cooperation with xenos to create a coalition of the willing, and will become similar to the Aeldari when the God Emperor is fully elevated beyond the mortal plane
>Aeldari: they got Ynnari overrides, also possible hijack of traitors with second thoughts through mutation reversion; basically destined to walk with humanity hand in hand against the Ruinous Powers
>Necrons: most are dumb robots or petty robots, few wise robots will join coalition of the willing and eventually participate in pylon R&D
>Tau: the empire is fucked but Farsight and friends will join the coalition of the willing at some point
>Tyranids: possibly trying to race to Terra to protect the God Emperor, instead of om-noming him
>Orks: perfectly positioned to make the Chaos Maledictum into the Orky Maledictum over the next thousand years also Gork and Mork destined to make thunderous entry into Materium

>>54980527
>2 squads
Anon you are just playing black painted marines like a faggot. 3 full squads or nothing!

>>54980535
>What?
>Do you really believe WHFB will ever reach a resolution?
t. 2006

>>54980531
ok cool. I will try that

>>54980444
>It's not fucking canon

Nice opinion you got there. Petty that 8th ED GW codexes mention BL stories. For example, Drach'nyen lore in the CSM codex is taken from MoM.

Also Khayon and Lyras were mentioned in modern IA. Get cancer and die please.

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Any anon would be willing to sell me the spotlight in pic related on the chaos vindicator?
I need it for a kitbash but can't seem to find it on any bits seller

I bought an Ork Trukk model today I'm nearly done assembling it and I'm starting to want to throw it away.
Anyone else have an experience like this? It's so fucking finicky.

>>54980535
Age of Sigmar happen. GW can kill a setting, games and armies. It has done it in the past

>>54980359
>>54980216
They're not listed in the Dreadnought weapons list. And GK can't use the FW one.
Then I saw:
>>54980511
Oh, cool. I was under the impression that I couldn't use them because the new codex entry overrode the Index one.

I just bought a DA flyer but dont know what to build it as, I have a bunch of terminators and DWK, but the only Ravenwing units I have are black knghts, what should I build it as ?

>>54980559
End Times happened because WHF was a lame horse financially. 40k is selling more than ever, there's no reason for them to Sigmar the setting.

>>54980566

My general thought process is either go double combat arms or double guns - mixing the two feels worthless.

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>>54980495
GW says dumb shit all the time. Ignore it.

>>54980537
My point is what you've said is true but is largely irrelevant. Again, as I said, the book Master of Mankind has both in-universe characters and the author saying that Chaos wins. I'm pretty sure it even says that the Imperium would lose even if Chaos didn't exist. That's my point. Nobody at GW read this and thought 'this kinda invalidates the whole point of our setting, doesn't it?'.

>>54980260

Uhhh, I've got bad news for you...

The apothecary guy caught up with them and, at the very least, took their kid: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Decimus_(Character)

>>54980336
>Once upon a time, GW went with the thought process of "Give everybody a 'Win Game' solution". For example

You are retarded. Those GW seeded plotlines about what th factions will do in the Age Of Ending. They were never meant to win. They were meant to fuck shit and then get their shit fucked by Chaos.

>>54980582
>blaming the consumer for your incompetence
Do you want to work at GW?

>>54980570
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARHAMMER-40K-BITS-SPACE-MARINES-VINDICATOR-SMOKE-LIGHTS-EXTRA-/311934157169?epid=1776176781&hash=item48a0b98171:g:MrEAAOSwQoVZiN0T

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SOMEONE OFFERS YOU 50,000 DOLLARS to play in a 2k points tournament, but you HAVE to win and use pic related, no forgeworld bullshit, just index. You cannot bribe the other contestants with part of the winnings to throw the match, and if they somehow find out about your deal you lose by default. To go forward with the deal, you have to put up every one of your models as collateral and should you even come in 2nd they are all smashed and you get nothing!

Would you? And more importantly, how the FUCK would something worth 1000+ points but barely as killey as a knight get you there?

>>54978452
What happened to it?

>>54980603
I don't understand your post at all sorry. Are you trying to tell me AoS wasn't an attempt to rebrand the fantasy line?

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>>54980597
>Nobody at GW read this and thought 'this kinda invalidates the whole point of our setting, doesn't it?'.

It doesn't. Only a mental invalid thinks so. America winning WW2 doesn't invalidate playing Russians and Germans in historical games.

Anyways, according to LG the founders of the setting decided that Chaos was going to win since day once because 40K was always about the sins of man coming to destroy him and the "rage, rage against the dying of the night" theme.

>>54980603
To be fair, nobody was interested in WHFB cause of Star Wars, really. 2000's was about Sci-Fi, not about Fantasy. AoS has actually gotten back into Top 5 sellers now. Maybe that's cause the game doesn't require you to buy 500 Zombies to actually be competitive with an army. Either way, I enjoy it, I enjoy WHFB and I enjoy 40k.

>>54980602
I think that anon was talking exactly about people like you, except people like you are writing the setting.

>>54980633
I think he was trying to imply that WHFB was ruined by GW's policies or some shit. When in fact it was because nobody liked rank-and-file fantasy games.

>>54980597

1. It says Chaos wins because BL is ghey for Chaos
2. Theres plenty of instances in WH40k where "winning" isn't really winning.
3. GW just wants to sell more models at the end of the day. That means more Imperium players buy more shit because they think they have a chance of changing the storyline by voting with money and fighting these global campaigns, while Chaos players buy more shit because they're the winners forever don't you want to be a winner too?

>>54980626
FAQ. Sanctuary only lets you improve to a 3+.

Stupid question time. Does being battleforged get any command points or are the only command points you get are from the detachment you bring?

>>54980646
>comparing historicals with 40k
Not sure if stupid or bait

>>54980661
It's Carnac. Just ignore him.

>>54980652
>people are not buying my products
>let's force them to buy more shit in order to play!
WHF was GW shooting themself on the foot and blaming others for his bleeding feet

>>54980619
I guess spam boyz and try to drown your opponent in bodies? I really don't know too much about Orkz

>>54980661
He's a retard. He mentions Russians and Germans, when Russians won WW2.

>>54980659
3 for being bsttleforged + whatever detachments you bring

>>54980619
Nobody would ever gamble anything on RNGhammer RNGk: Age of RNG, even without a bunch of stupid conditions on top.

>>54980690
Ok, so I have a battalion and spearhead detachment so I have 7 command points. Cool

>>54980677
If you think WHFB was selling super well and it was 8th's fault it died, well, you obviously didn't play it. Horde rules came in 8th. That was stupid, yes. But WHFB was dead a long time before that. I have 400 odd model armies of WHFB. I played that shit for years. Or, tried to. Playing the same 9 people was boring. 40k was just more popular; end of.

>>54980696
50,000 dollars does alot to the gambling addicted and challenge seekers.

>>54979292
Skosts!

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>>54980652
>I think that anon was talking exactly about people like you, except people like you are writing the setting.

People like me? If you don't liike how this setting is written then leave. Chaos winning is a core concept of the setting.

>>54980653
Before BL became a thing. Rick Priestly and other major developers like this guy envisioned Chaos as an all consuming unstoppable force like it's in the original material they stole from minus the Order faction because it's dumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnfo-cegsG4

Chaos is a force of entropy powered by the emotion and sins of all sentient life. The very act of fighting against it empowers it. You cannot beat physics. You cannot beat Chaos.

Sorry, to break you supremacist HFY fantasy, not sorry.

>>54980709
It was years of bad desicions. One after the other.
Trying to get quick cash grabs with big scary monsters and bigger armies was the cherry on top

>>54980646
Unrelated, but God I hate Goulding. He's such a fucking little bitch
>Waah, someone pointed out that our franchise tie-in science fiction is shitty
>You're obviously wrong because I wrote in a book that you were wrong

I don't get why GW's policy is that chaos has to win. There's a lot more investment if it's still up in the air whether the orkz will unite, the imperium will get its shit together, the 'nids will eat terra, etc. Hell, isn't it outright stated by Eldrad that the Cabal may be full of shit?

>>54980740
Carnac?

>>54980661
It's akin historical setting set from 31M to 41M. Stagnant and formulaic.

NOW it's story driven setting with no set timeline. dynamic and groundbreaking. Which is what we wanted.

>>54980685
Russians sided with the Germans. Just because they changed sides doesn't make them good guys. They are worst guys.

>>54980619
A 1000 points of boys should be enough to carry me through any local tournament even with that big paperweight

Are the "Collector Edition" Codices really just a hardcover version with a different bit of art on the cover?

>>54980776
Except we already know how it ends, so it makes it boring.

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>>54979643
I'm at work and don't have photos of my dudes, but my advice is

1. Prime white
2. Paint armour your choice of green (I use nurgling green)
3. Paint trim in your choice of metalic (I use Runefang)
4. Paint all other metal Leadbelcher
5. Paint skin/mutations whatever ( I use Slaanesh grey)
6. Paint cloth whatever (I use Xereus Purple)
7. Paint horns whatever (I use screamin skull)
8. Paint all other details whatever (Whatever)
9. Wash that motherfucker with Agrax
10. The whole thing
11. FUCKING DO IT
12. Highlight with their original colours (metallics won't need it)
13. You're done son

DG are great because a messy wash just makes them look as filthy as they're meant to be.

>>54980776
No one wanted a story driven crap. Stop making shit up

We all wanted new models that's it. Some how GW failed at the new models for everyone and story for everyone

>>54980740
>Sorry, not sorry
Please go back to tumblr you obnoxious cunt

>>54980605
wrong spotlights, the one i want is much bigger than the ones in this
i've only seen it in the chaos kit

Alright any recommendations for my list? I've been paints guants for almost a week.
Total 1993 pts 7 CP
Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [80 PL, 1527pts]
HQ
Hive Tyrant [10 PL, 202pts]: Monstrous Rending Claws, Monstrous Scything Talons, Prehensile Pincer Tail, Wings
Tervigon [13 PL, 250pts]: Massive Scything Talons, Power: Catalyst, Stinger Salvo
The Swarmlord [15 PL, 300pts]
Troops
Hormagaunts [9 PL, 150pts]: 30x Hormagaunt
Termagants [6 PL, 120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer): 10x Devourer
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Termagants [6 PL, 120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer): 10x Devourer
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Termagants [6 PL, 120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer): 10x Devourer
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Tyranid Warriors [5 PL, 70pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Scything Talons
Elites
Lictor [2 PL, 45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Lictor [2 PL, 45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Lictor [2 PL, 45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Fast Attack
Gargoyles [4 PL, 60pts]: 10x Gargoyle

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [25 PL, 466pts]
HQ
Old One Eye [7 PL, 140pts]
Heavy Support
Carnifexes [6 PL, 109pts]
. Carnifex: Monstrous Crushing Claws, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
Carnifexes [6 PL, 109pts]
. Carnifex: Monstrous Crushing Claws, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
Carnifexes [6 PL, 108pts]
Carnifex: Monstrous Scything Talons, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

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>>54980766
>I don't get why GW's policy is that chaos has to win.

Because it's poetic and a big fuck you to the evil that is the Imperium. You don't get rewarded for fighting evil with evil. You don't beat your sins by committing even more sins. The Imperium has been making their bed for 10K years. It's time they sleep in it.

>Hell, isn't it outright stated by Eldrad that the Cabal may be full of shit?

...?? The Cabal plan of starving Chaos via destroying humanity was said to full of shit according to Eldrad which goes against your point more than anything. Chaos is far large than a single race. It's larger than this whole galaxy and everything in it. Picture related.

>>54980807
>GW sales skyrocketed and interest in fantasy and 40K is bigger than ever

Sure.....

>>54980809
Actually, I took it from reading the new Lobo comics. But whatever.

>>54980848
Try again, but now don't copy paste from shit scribe

>>54980849
Carnac is awake.

>>54980873
You mean woke.

>>54979786
>NO SPRUES NO RULES
>except this DK grandmaster you can convert
>Chaos still can't use drop pods

>>54980873
No I'm not writing out a list because it triggers you.

>>54978504
Yes, 200 points for about 5 mortal wounds against any target is still good.

Hellforged contemptor with chain claw+death claw and dual soulburners is probably better value however.

>>54980902
>make annoying to read list
>get told to format it for the intended site you are posting
Try again

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>>54978607
faggot

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>>54979643
Working on my nurglings now.

>>54980961
>"N-no, templar, no!"

>>54980961
Can Girlyman force the templar to adopt librarians?

>>54980968

So simple. So clean. Now imagining Morty walking up and down his battle barge singing WHEN YOU WALK AWAY YOU DONT HEAR ME SAY-

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>>54980740
You realize that 40k is a fictional setting created to sell plastic toys, right?

Hitting the reset button would make zero financial sense. "Blood for the blood god" "Red Ones goes fasta" "For the Emperor!" are all hugely iconic. GW would be batman beyond retarded to throw out a brand that took decades to build up because of BL books. I can't even imagine someone trying to explain to the shareholders that they want to End Times 40k because of a fiction novel.

Fantasy didn't have the same brand power as 40k, so they decided to rebrand it to try and reinvigorate the model lines.

You guys seem to forget that GW is a corporation. They're worried about their bottom line, not any "moral of the story shit" like
>You don't get rewarded for fighting evil with evil.

>>54980849
>You don't get rewarder for fighting evil with evil
The imperium has done literally nothing wrong, chaos, by its nature requires the insane level of the imperium's vindictiveness. Disprove me

>>54980935
242 pts for 24inch 2d3 mortal wounds and wreck face in combat
not bad

>>54980961
"I have a purity seal for every CSM I cuck"

>>54979284
Bonus points if he yells "WELCOME TO FLAVOR TOWN" while shooting it

>>54979276
One survived the virus bombs and the subsequent fire on Istvaan III.
I don't think we'd have anything that can scratch one in fluff. In reality it'd probabky drop to a few well placed AT weapons of whatever kind. Worst case scenario drop some kind of bunker buster on its head, assuming we can get through void shields.

>>54980981
That would be tough considering that their geneseed produces no psykers. It isn't voluntary, they just don't have any psykers.

>>54979307
vallejo black grey model color 70826

>>54980935
>Hellforged contemptor with chain claw+death claw and dual soulburners is probably better value however.
But does it look as dank as the decimator?

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>>54980981
If he was smart about it, probably. Call them something else, give them a twist. I don't see a reason to, though; that just dilutes the character of the chapter.

>>54979472
Could have some kind of ranged attack/aura that forces you to move closer to them/only able to pick them as your charge targets. I could see that being neat/useful.

>>54981019
>geneseed is what makes psykers

>>54979276
A guardsmen knife has a decent chance of wounding it

Pretty sure it'd just get looted once it hit South Africa or Detroit

>crew wakes up and finds their titan on a stack of cinder blocks and unable to walk

>>54981015
I think while it's voids are up it can tank nukes but not an unlimited amount of them.

>>54979770
Fuck ADB. He is a numale faggit and makes Ward look like fitzgerald in comparison

>>54981063

Guardsmen lose a few guys a turn to battleshock just by being within 9" of it

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [82 PL, 1495pts] ++

+ HQ +

Ahriman [8 PL, 131pts]

Sorcerer [7 PL, 121pts]: Bolt pistol, Combi-melta, Force sword, Warptime, Weaver of Fates

+ Troops +

Rubric Marines [14 PL, 243pts]
. Aspiring Sorcerer: Force stave, Inferno Bolt Pistol
. 8x Rubric Marine w/ Inferno Boltgun: 8x Inferno boltgun
. Rubric Marine w/ Soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon

Rubric Marines [14 PL, 243pts]
. Aspiring Sorcerer: Force stave, Inferno Bolt Pistol
. 8x Rubric Marine w/ Inferno Boltgun: 8x Inferno boltgun
. Rubric Marine w/ Soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]: 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]: 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]: 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]: 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades

+ Elites +

Scarab Occult Terminators [13 PL, 266pts]
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force stave, Inferno Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Hellfyre Missile Rack, Inferno Combi-bolter, Powersword
. Terminator: Inferno Combi-bolter, Powersword
. Terminator: Inferno Combi-bolter, Powersword
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Power sword, Soulreaper Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Forgefiend [10 PL, 211pts]: 2x Hades autocannons, Ectoplasma cannon

++ Total: [82 PL, 1495pts] ++

How shit is my 1500 1ksons?

>>54980943
Total 1993 pts 7 CP
Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [80 PL, 1527pts]
HQ
Hive Tyrant [202pts]: Monstrous Rending Claws Wings
Tervigon [250pts]: Massive Scything Talons, Power: Catalyst, Stinger Salvo
The Swarmlord [300pts]
Troops
30x Hormagaunt
Termagants [120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer)
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Termagants [120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer)
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Termagants [120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer)
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Tyranid Warriors [70pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Scything Talons
Elites
Lictor [45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Lictor [45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Lictor [45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Fast Attack
Gargoyles [60pts]: 10x Gargoyle

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [466pts]
HQ
Old One Eye [140pts]
Heavy Support
Carnifexes [109pts]
. Carnifex: Monstrous Crushing Claws, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
Carnifexes [109pts]
. Carnifex: Monstrous Crushing Claws, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
Carnifexes [108pts]
Carnifex: Monstrous Scything Talons, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Better?

>>54980983
Just because Chaos will win in the end doesn't mean they can't and won't milk the fuck out of the setting though. You faggots are up in arms because the end of the story was revealed and you don't like it. Fucking enjoy the ride because as long as the franchise sells the story wont end.

>>54981080
You can put the missile and SRC on the same guy and pull that model last

>>54981067
Ah well, fear not. Despite what chaos fanboys and other non-ultramarine players believe, black library isn't the first, last, or any form of final word on how the setting goes down.

There's tons of issues with fluff contradictions between books, sometimes even within a single narrative, so chalk it up to ye olde 'everything is canon, not everything is true'.