/aosg/ Warhammer Age of Sigmar General

My taint is tender

First for Skaven are cute-fluffy

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>Introduce brand new Artifacts for almost everyone
>Increase the fuck out of Battalion costs so you can barely field them.

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Stop doing new threads if the previous one didn't hit the fuckin 9th page. There are three /aosg/ now

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Reminder that Moonclan grots is best grots!

Earlier thread capped.

>>54974877
>>54974900
>>54974898

I understand that it makes some of you happy. But for they were an way to keep
my army fresh. I collected and painted one battalion and went to other with different theme. Now everything will be the same generic mass.. sigh, one can't have good things lasting forever.

>>54974989
This is our board now bitch boy

is fielding 93 models in a 1000 point game considered waac?

Nth for phoneposting about stormkeks helps alleviate my anxiety about aelves

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Looking forward to both of these.

>>54974985
This so much. I feel that this "edition" is a slight overkill on battalions.

Lel

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>>54974998
I love them but I just wish Squig Hoppers had some value to them.

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Remember guys - ignore the stormkikes shitposter and report stormcucks shitposting

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Lets say I was crazy enough to buy a Chaos Dorf army
How would this hold up?

>>54975008
Post your army list anon so we can see what's happening.

>>54975008
show us the list

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Prove me wrong

>>54975008
Only if those 93 models are all either immune to battleshock, all holding ranged weapons, or both.

Reposting, do we have any idea if Arkanauts are going to get the same "only one of each weapon to match the sprue" treatment that the Thunderers are getting?

>>54975053
You don't have enough warmachines yet.

>>54975053
I dunno, I don't click pdf army lists on principle

>>54975088
No idea yet, no leak in that regard.

>>54975088
The ONLY warscroll change was the thunderers

>>54975088
Well, since a tactics article on the Warhammer Community page from just a few weeks ago talked about taking Arkanaut Company units of 30 with 9 times the same special gun, I assume they won't touch those.

>>54975068
>>54975073
>GHB1
80 wulfrik the wander
120 bloodsecrator
180 marauders x3
180 bloodreavers x3
200 warshrine
100 marauder horsemen
100 marauder horsemen

960 points

>ghb2
80 wulfrik the wander
120 bloodsecrator
200 marauders x4 (maximum unit size discount)
240 bloodreavers x4 (maximum unit size discount)
180 warshrine
90 marauder horsemen
90 marauder horsemen

1000 points even

I'm thinking about taking a sylvaneth army with an autumn theme how does this list looks?

Allegiance: Order

Heroes
Treelord Ancient (300)
Branchwych (80)
Branchwraith (80)

Battleline
20 x Dryads (200)
10 x Dryads (100)
10 x Dryads (100)
5 x Tree-Revenants (80)
- Sylvaneth Battleline

Battalions
Household (70)
Gnarlroot Wargrove (180)

Total: 1190/2000

also what i should add to get to 1500 points? more dryads? or another treelord?

>>54975170
Do you have unit size numbers too man?

>>54975027
Everything about the Nurgle one is perfect, save for the fact that GW can't do wood in CAD and it shows.

Ladycast Black Mambazo is really good for a Stormcast. The female proportions make it more dynamic.

>>54975126
>>54975151
>>54975155
Awesome, thank you.

Can't wait to see the point changes to rotbringers.

Also, do you guys think the blightwars set will have alligiance rules for rotbringers?

Lexicanum needs all the help it can get, so sign up and help us put Age of Sigmar information up-to-date!

If you dont have any of the books. We could also use some help by going through the warscrolls and product descriptions and adding them to the lexi!

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>tfw Flesh Eater Court gets shit on by GW

>>54975170
Maybe just use the warscroll builder from OP and change the points - I have no idea what I'm looking at

>>54975027
>assassin
>shiny heavy plate armor
no

>>54975151
Speaking of. I've now seen two separate images, one with Chemists price raised to 140 (english copy), the other with thunderers' price raised to 140 (french copy we've all seen). Any clue which is right?

>>54975027
Will we get femcast kits to mix with the regular units?

>>54975112
> Principle
Lolwut?

>>54975027
>wide hips
>boob plate
I cant see from this angle but if those greaves have heels, I'm gonna cap a nigga

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>There is no chance that GW will release bdsm-themed mortal followers of Slaanesh
Mortal followers at all would be nice tho

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>>54975209
>>54975284
I miss the old scrollbuilder

>>54975371
Just pay for a fucking hooker or go take a wank at some porn Jesus Christ, all of you slaaneshfags are obnoxious permavirgins

>>54975378
you are 120 points over the limit mate

>>54975378
Says you're at 1120 points bro. You sure the discount plonks you down by 120 points?

>>54975308
Rushing at somebody and hacking them to death is still assassination.

>>54975371
Good, maybe it'll help idiots realize Slaanesh isn't just about sex.

>>54975249
Nope, still don't give a shit.

>>54975412
>>54975409
according to the leaked points from from 2 threads ago that list is 1000 points flat in GHB2017

>>54975448
Recheck your list anon, the original GH1. In fact, try to post us the GH1 list (hopefully not too time consuming as you got the list there), then post the point adjustments.

As I asked here, >>54975412, make sure the discount knocks 120 points off.

>>54975371

this
>>54975442

Slaanesh needs new models which should really capture the idea of their pursuit for perfection. I want ornate baroque-like armors and cool stuff, not boobs drugs and sex XD

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>>54975371
I would prefer the Hellraiser angle instead where they have mutilated their bodies to experience a higher level of sensation. It needs to be more than just kink if it's Slaanesh.

>>54975404
It would be neat to have a decent sculpt models that have more flavor and character than these old-ass daemonettes
>>54975442
>God of pleasure, excess, pride and self-indulgence
>hurr it can't be bdsm themed because it's all about sex
Domination, submission, sadism, masochism, violence, pain and pleasure - it's a perfect theme for slaanesh. IIRC his mortal followers are often killing themselves so they could reach the pinnacle of pleasure and perfection as his servants. I don't want a le tits and pussy meme-tier theme either

Anyone have a points cost on the pestilens clawpack? It's pretty much the only good formation for my rats.

Point costs leaks by Frenchies

http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/253031-épinglé-manuel-du-général-v2/

Order Serpentis BTFO

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>>54975492
the printed GHB1 lists bloodreavers as 60 points per unit, and the online lists them as 70

either way it is under a 1000 points so it doesn't matter

>>54975448
I did the counting for you, it knocks off 100 points, you're off by 20 point so still 1020.

Blood Reavers - 280 > 240 (GH2) = 40
Warshrine - 200 > 180 (GH2) = 20
Marauders - 240 > 200 = 40

Total: 100

Adjustment of points= 1120 - 100 = 1020

Some math is off bud.

>>54975248
Well, from that wheel I assume the allegiance will be Nurgle, not Nurgle Daemon, just like the Disciples of Tzeentch are Tzeentch and not Tzeentch Arcanite, Tzeentch Daemon or Tzeentch Mortal.

Just a bit ticked off that I have to buy a very expensive starter set just to get said Allegiance abilities and Snailbro.

>>54975194
Literally no reason to use two units of 10 Dryads. They are best used in units of at least 20, since they get buffs when you have at least 12.

You can't go wrong with Kurnoth Hunters also. Even with their 40 point price increase they are still worth taking.

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>>54975608
It's removed. They tomb cucked it out of the GHB. Sorry anon. How many plague rats did you have?

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>>54975676
you forgot to account for the horsemen being 10 points cheaper

>>54975038
Yeah, squig hoppers are an absolute disappointment. They don't do reliable enough damage or have reliable enough speed to be good flankers. They don't have any saves worth it for stealing objectives. They don't even have an ability to make them a good SURPRISE! unit. The squig mount does only semi decently, but the strength of squigs comes from the free mortal wounds for failing battleshocks, which these guys utterly lack. Making them cheap battleline did little to change my opinions on them when squigs can do their job but better.

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>>54975704
100 monks (80 painted)
3 plague claws
1 Verminlord corruptor
1 furnace
5 censers
3 priests

All but 20 monks are painted

>>54975714
And the squigs are 20 points CHEAPER than the hoppers. I mean, even adding in the costs of a herder or two, Cave Squigs are by and large the better option.

>>54975706
Aaaah. My mistake. Well, looks legit. good show man.

On that though, I just realized you essentially only have basic infantry sans the horsemen so you definitely got the numbers but I think elite might chop them up something hard.

Doesn't seem WAAC. Very swarmy, intimidating but nothing OP. Mainly because you need to run into melee than gun your opponents down.

>>54975704
It never was part of the GHB, so quit spewing bullshit.

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>>54975536
>I want ornate baroque-like armors and cool stuff, not boobs drugs and sex XD
What not mix it? Followers start as passionate and fervent worshippers but as they catch a higher position in slaanesh mortal hierarchy they appearance change and become more subtle and imposing while their personality becaomes more and more corrupted

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>>54975797
>>54975704
>Clawpack gone
>Censer bearers still total shit and ignored
>Two Minor 20 pts drops
>Foulrain is dead
>Plagueclaws still costly
>Seraphon buffs

Has the Horned Rat forsaken us?

>>54975877
>>54975704
I see no clawpack in GHB1.0 so stop fuckin shitposting

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Got 240 euro of Skaven in the mail, see Skaven players worry over changes...Should I worry?

>>54975846
Does that just mean I use the GHB1 cost, or is it totally unusable now?

>>54975920
If it's Skryre or Verminus you're fine.
If it's pestilens ehh, you're getting some sweet stuff in the GHB but don't expect a really competitive army.

>>54975942
It's SC 2x and Isle of Blood 2x, so it was always gonna be a mixed army, so I guess I'm fine?

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>>54975920
No, you should not give a fuck about samefagging troll. There was no clawpack in General's Handbook either

>>54975953
Absolutely. You're going to be fine.

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>>54975908
Are you blind or just stupid?

>>54975953
Magnetize your shit so you can play mono-pestilens when you get bored with mixed army

>>54975643
Not like anyone plays them anyway.

>>54975967
Show me the "skaven" table in new ghb

>>54975877
Well, I'm going to sell my army at this point. Everyone at my shop plays beastclaw, SCE, and Tzeentch, and this was the last chance for pestilens to be worthwhile. Not going to be a total masochist. Thanks GW.

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>>54975797
This list would leave you exactly 120 more points under GBH2. Pretty much ideal to add another 20 monks to the small unit of monks or take two units of censer bearers.

>>54976012
Isn't one anymore

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>ITT: People crying about rules they haven't seen yet
It's 40kg and 8th edition all over again

>>54975920
Skaven are looking fine, dude. Ignore the morons.

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Didn't Moonclan originally have a Warscroll Battalion in Gh1? Where is it in Gh2?

>>54975988
It's hilarious that they're literally just dragon blades, but 20 more points

>>54976017
But there's no formation, which puts me at a severe disadvantage against the hoard of stormshitters at my shop (most of whom are massive manchildren)

>>54976049
what do you expect

after 8th turned out to be a disaster they 40k players are all jumping ship and coming here

>>54976056
The same place where unique artifacts are for non-Ironjawz destruction allegiances.

>>54976049
What did you expect? Sensible reactions and such? Nope, doomsaying is the way to go.

Anyone know if we can still use old skaven characters like queek headtaker, lord skrolk, and throt the unclean?

>>54976073
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or are you a chaoscuck?

>>54976098
Oh great, now I got to wait for THOSE leaks. Thanks man.

>>54976069
Formations got massive price hikes overall, so what are you crying about? Adapt and overcome. You also get a whole set of allegiance stuff on top of that, so things are fine.

>>54976017
Censers, especially 5 of them are so garbage i would rather be down 60 pts and get the underdog bonus desu

>>54976073
>after 8th turned out to be a disaster
Oh my, you still keep trolling? Jesus, I would take all this shitposting if you were a fantasyshit player at least but you have never played warhammer at all. I hope you will enjoy your ban

>>54975027
Why does she have no eyebrows?

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>>54976203
>he doesn't know

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>>54976073
>After 40k released a new edition that was an improvement of the Age of Sigmar system, everyone hated it so much that they decided to play an inferior version of the same system

Are you an actual retard?

>>54976181
So take another 20 monks. Or another priest. Or axe the censer bearers already in the list and take another plagueclaw. Options, man.

>>54976017
Just get some warp lightning cannons (2) and ally them in. That will work better than 3 plagueclaws

>>54976181
So take something else, retard.

>>54976073
There is always the one guy with 7th Edition Stockholm Syndrome. Today, that guy is you.

>>54976224
Or some Giant rats for the objective. I know

I'm just trying to stress how useless censer bearer's are, never take the bastards

How has nobody uploaded all the new artifacts and ability pages yet
ffs

What we're the other unreleased stormcast chambers again? I could have swore the lady is from one.

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In preperation for the Warherd box, I have made a map over the Bullgor hills (a location features on my "main" map for my dudes, I'll post it later). What do you guys think?

Also here is a short description over each named area:

>The old road
The old road runs throughout this part of Ghur, it is said to have been made by an aincent empire, who infused it with magic in order to keep it functional even to this day

>The crumbling ruins
This old ruin once belonged to a mighty Aelven lord long ago. But at some point the lord was defeated, leaving only his ruined keep as his legacy

>Raging stampede tribe
This tribe of bullgors often travel on and around the Old Road in search of prey and battles. Like a force of nature the bullgors can appear to be unstoppable to a suprised target

>Grot Woods
A small clan of Grots have taken refuge inside the thick and overgrown canopy of this forest, making it a safe haven for them. They often make small scavenger hunts to the Bloodstained plains in search for tools, weapons and food that has been left over from the bullgors

>The Bloodstained plains
This large area have become a battleground for many of the Bullgor tribes when they fight amongs eachother. It has gotten it's name due to all the blood appears after each conflict

>Beastfeaster tribe
The Beastfeaster tribe enjoy the taste of flesh and blood from their fellow beastmen and can often be seen attack stray packs of gors and ungors, but it's not uncommon for them to attack other Bullgors in search of more filling flesh. The weakest member of the tribe are often ganged up upon and eaten when the tribe needs fresh blood to sate
their thirst

>Reinhold's Hunting camp
Reinhold and his merry band of hunters have traveled to the Bullgor hills in search of the strongest and fiercest Beast in the Bullgor hills.

>cont

>>54976222
That is one cute Skarsnik! Thanks for the image.

>>54976308
You know, I never thought an army of actual rapists could have such a deep level of "your dudes"-ness. Good for you, anon.

>>54976293
It's a safe bet she's from the Vanguard chamber, same as the Hunters, Raptors and Palladors.

>>54976308
Looks really good man. I tried to use that map but damn it was a bit difficult working with the interface. Solid fluff and map though.

>>54976308
I like it. I wanted to make one for my pestilens and nurgle stuff, but there's no well to use as the lair entry point. Could use ruins tho I guess.

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Nighthaunt points and abilities fuckin when

>>54976353
>cunt

>>54976383
Literally shown on the community page

>>54976353
>oh no, somebody is enjoying the game enough to homebrew something cool
>better make fun of him for not being a jaded piece of shit like myself
kys

>>54976308
Neat. Might make for an interesting location once the RPG comes out, too.

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>>54976383

>>54976412
>>54976396
Just report him.

>>54976404
No, it's not. They literally teased a single artifact and one ability

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>>54976308
Here's the main map where you can see the bullgor hills

>Greatbeast tribe
The Greatbeast tribe is made up of Bullgors that enjoy cleaving their foes in two via the use of great axes, and they also attract many Ghorgons from the Teeth of Terror that will follow them into battle in search of fresh meat and warm blood

>The Teeth of Terror
A few jagged mountain peaks have become the home to many Ghorgorns, many of them are feral and almost mindless, but a few makes their way into many of the Bullgor tribes and in turn often join them.

>Fleshbrute tribe
The Bullgors from the Fleshbrute tribe are always seen covered crude pelts of flayed skin and hide from creatures that have crossed their path. It's not uncommon to see Bullgors adorned with human, Orruk, and Seraphon skins in order to show off their strenght to their enemies and rivals

>The Arcane keep
A ruin almost as old as the Old Road. The very foundation of the structure is infused in aincent magic, so it's no suprise that Cygors roam around the ruins in search of magic infused stone that they can use to hurl across the battlefield

Thanks for all the nice things you guys think of this, it really makes me happy to see someone other then me likes some fun fluff

>>54976433
>Hexwraiths are NH battleline now
Sweet

>>54976492
This just in, personalizing your army has nothing to do with the game. Pretend that those sections on narrative play don't exist.

>>54976492
Ya know what, I AM going to make one for my dudes too.
Appreciate the Chris Chan reference (the wiki seems to be down), but go speech out somewhere else

>>54976492
I am not even him but for not contributing to the discussion and using /tg/ to vent and troll.

>autistic little creep

Projection much?

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>>54976532
Sperg*

If anyone here is autistic, it's me for phone posting

>>54976482
Looks good. I think I see why my own map was so difficult, I had no roads. But I also couldn't find any undo button on the map maker, where is it located?

>>54976549
I'm lurking for more than 10 years now but I still don't get this phone-posting meme. What's more I never saw it on /s/, /vp/ or /co/ - only on /tg/

>>54976581
DESU, even I do t get it either. I bet I'm not even the only one

>>54976581
Lots of phoneposters don't or don't know how to turn off auto correct so their posts can be a bit choppy in words or sentence structure.

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>>54975347
>heels
YES PLEASE I WANT HER TO STEP ON MY BALLS

>>54976581
The meme is that there are things such as random capitals and autocorrected words, also certain auto generated image names that give you away as posting from a phone, when you notice one you just reply "dumb phoneposter"
Thats it

>>54976532
What army do you play Anon? I would love to read another "your dudes" fluff from other Anons.

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So where do Chaos Warriors get Chaos Armour from now in the fluff?

>>54976308
Looks better than the official AoS maps

>>54976682
You can make up your own reason for it, maybe they have a forge somewhere in their base/keep, perhaps they are gifted it from the Warp/realm of chaos, or perhaps they have enslaved a group of blacksmiths that work in and Isengard style forge in order to fuel their overlord's army

>>54976682
The same place anybody gets anything in this setting.

You pull it out of your own ass.

>>54976682
They are born with it

Building 1k Tzeentch, currently going for 2 blobs of 30 pink horrors. Do I fill the last 400 with a Changeling/Herald/Scribes/Summoner and leave the rest for summoning, or go with 2/LoC and just pump out mortal wounds?

>>54976682
Use the khorne blacksmiths - he has plenty of them actually

>>54976728
>>54976721
>born with it
>pull it out of your ass

That sounds like a good angle for Slaanesh

>>54976719
Thanks. Makes sense I guess.

>>54976203
GW doesn't do eyebrows on their sculpts very often, I painted some on my Dragon Slayer and he looks tight

>>54976728
Maybe it's Maybelline

>>54976753
Is that in the Khorne Battle Tome? That's pretty cool actually.

>>54976665
I play mostly pestilens (but unlike the rest of these guys, I'm not screeching about the sky falling). I also have some nurgle stuff and some death.
Last summer, in the season of war, there was one battleplan that had each player defending a home base from the other. I chose an ugly old cobble well for my plague rats. Even though I lost on turn two when a frtostlord on a stonehorn ran into it, the idea of my clan living in an underground lair that connects to village wells has stuck with me.
For my dudes, I am going to do a town or city with multiple small villages and farms around, and a cave somewhere in the nearby hills. The rats will be secretly contaminating the man-thing's wells and eventually pouring out of them in an all out attack.

>>54976800
So... sewer rats

>>54976784
Yeah, just download the Blades of Khorne battletome. It has few paragraphs about khorne wargear, blacksmiths, war machines etc.

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>>54976665
>off by one

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>>54976800
Sound cool to me, and it really fits the skaven theme.
Write it in a google document so you can share it with us when you have expanded on it

pic unrealed, I just felt like posting it

Looks like either someone made a pretty big mistake or GW is trolling us. Multiple differences between the French leak & the reviewer's copy.
OR*tin foil hat* gw made differences on purpose to the early copies to track the leakers

>>54976784
Skullgrinders are blacksmiths fluffwise.
In combat they use their anvils as flails.

>>54976830
Sort of. Or maybe the enterance to the nest is a well in an abandoned village (ruins) which are right by one of the farmsteads.
What scale did you use for the structures and hills and stuff?

>>54976867
Like what anon? We need details.

>>54974916
FOREVERIALLY DELITIZED AND LOVING IT

>>54976845
I'm going to try and go with old world sounding names, since it was vermintide that got me in to AOS. What's your object scale in your bullgor hills map?

>>54976925
It was around 100% for the ruins and stuff, and 200% for the hills and mountains. The trees vary due to I wanted the forests to look more "grown" if you know what I mean.

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>>54976784

>>54976845
Someone should change the Engineer to a Arkanaut.
>Tiny desk Arkanaut, for only 79.99

>>54976885
Had no clue. Thanks man. I hope GW releases some fluff books on each of the Grand Alliances. As far as I was concerned, Skullgrinders were just roided out Champions of Khorne.

>>54976955
Not him but how do you undo features on the map on the site?

How do Freeguild play? I'd like to run large blocks of infantry with some Stormcast allies leading flaggelants.

>>54976968
Thanks man.

Hi guys, I want to run a poisoned/cursed wood themed Wood Elf army. I'd like to replace all animals with insects. I'd love a load of elves riding an Araknarok or using plague drones for warhawk riders.

Do you guys have any idea where to get other insect models, or insect themed warrior models I could throw in?

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>>54977063
tomb kings

>>54977063
T...tyranids?

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>>54976982
>tiny desk arkanaut for only 79.99!
>tfw it's real

>>54977201
Nice idea! I was also thinking of this new slug thing with the guff trimmed off.

>>54975447
Thats okay. Not everyone's into wiki editing.

There was this small bit of fluff that I'm looking for and can't find. It was about a Chaos idol or something and Greenskins defiling it. Then Chaos retaking, building greater and greater fortifications around it and Greenskins coming again and again. Where was it?

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>LGS is selling pic related for $2,5
>They still have 3 packs
>I'm not even playing orruks and wanted to save money for some skirmish warband
Fuck, I'm not even gonna run them in skirmish but these fuckers are so cheap and look so goofy. Also I still have some averland sunset to use

>>54977028
Freeguild are a solidly defensive shooting army. You have fast and agressive elements, but in general you'll fare better hanging back and blasting the enemy, with the occasional countercharge mixed in.

>>54977215
Might be able to loot some parts for treekin/dryads maybe?

>>54977311
Ironjawz battletome

>>54977342
>Kislev
>Literally retarded slav pseudo-country made up by mixing Poles, Russians and some other rip-off themes
2/10 bait

>>54977342
I see the IG spergs are in full force today, trying to shit up AoS too with your HFY bullshit Carlos?

>>54977514
>He thinks that gay flag will trigger someone
Pathetic but not as pathetic as Kislev so I'm okay with this

>>54977514
>stormcast are uniformed superhumans remade in the glorious image of sigmar against their will

How is this related to gays in any way

You are trying really hard and failing. It is pathetic

>>54977528
sigmar became a whiny bitch in AoS. He was cooler when he was a mythical figure.
>Nooo nagash pls don't betray me pls

>>54977550
Well yeah, he used to be Conan. You don't get much more Chad than that.

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>>54976383
Guys c'mon - everything has leaked and still noone posted the full allegiance abilities

>>54977637
Turns out being a barbarian god doesn't win wars.

>>54977652
I want to see the artefacts for every faction. Those are interesting.

I wanted to do a Skaven Verminus with Skryre and a grey seer
will that work/ be good

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Need some WHFB empire style farm names. Got three of them and a port town to name

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>>54977663
>>54977637
Conan Sigmar was best Sigmar

>>54977675
Same. Judging by the first two pestilens ones, I'm really curious to see the other four

>>54977708
Conan Sigmar wins battles.
God-king Sigmar wins wars.

>>54977675
Yeah, that's what I'm asking about. We know about Midnight Tome artifact but nothing more

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>>54976916
W-what?

>>54975035
I disagree.
The ability to field all the units together is huge.
It's only fair they would cost a lot.

>>54977749
Consider yourself lucky you don't understand the reference.

There are few things that are just so fucking strange even 4chan starts feeling uncomfortable posting them.

>>54976222
We've actually copied chargers go first in our games. Going through the old warbooks and getting S and T currently because holy shit it's way better.

>>54976581
Anons are always looking for a way to seem superior, even if it's hypocritical or inverted.

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So for those lurking Slaves to Darkness anons, did the price drop make Chosen Chaos worth taking in 1000 point armies?

>>54976605
>>54976608
He is getting more at the fact that the other boards don't give a shit about phoneposting and yet the fat beards on /tg/ seem to take special offense

>>54977708
I got less Conan vibes and more Beowulf.

>>54978032
>other boards don't give a shit about phoneposting

Dear anon you have not been on /v/ if you think that. The only reason you don't notice is that /v/ and other boards like /a/ have much faster traffic so the hatred is pretty much recycled quickly by other posts and threads.

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>>54977342
>>54977514
update

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>>54978016
Mite b cool.
Proxy them and see.

>>54977663
Better than being a nerd in fake looking armour

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>>54978091
>removed poo
>kept black dildo in left hand
k.

Also sales doesn't mean good. Look at the Honda civic.

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>>54977663
Old Sigmar
>Fights at the front lines and does his own dirty work

New Sigmar
>Hides in the sky realm like a pansy and has his golden boy servants do his dirty work for him

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The darkoath chieftain would make a good sigmar conversion

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>being frustrated to the point where you are spending your nights on meme-tier shitposting on mongolian cartoon porn imageforum

Also do you have any skirmish scene in your area? If yes, do you play mainly matched play games or maybe running the campaign?

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As an old Empire fag I kinda like the Stormcast Eternal. Reading a bunch of old Michael Moorcock stories has made me warm up towards the concept of champions of order pushing in the Chaos's shit. I sure do wish that GW would have kept the good old fashioned Empire Knights around, though.

I'm not gonna be a dick about it like certain low energy shitposters that only know one song and dance.

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What would get more damage for its cost? Foulrain congregation or 2 warp lightning cannons and a plague priest?

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How the fuck is giant rats warscroll still not updated? It doesn't even have the skaven keyword

>>54978473
They haven't even updated their damn app with new warscrolls

>>54978490
That's an absurd. I know it's not the most important unit in the game but on the other hand it's a battleline unit and a playable unit in Skirmish - they had to examine the warscroll before they added it do skirmish list so they know it is fucked up for sure

AoS Noob here, rules question: Could you theoretically use multiple (keyword) Warlords in a 1500 point game with the Verminus Battalion rules and get to stack Queek, Craventail, Spinetail and the generic Warlord's Command abilities? If yes, I was thinking of making a deathball with the Verminus forces that don't flee (as much) due to Verminus Battalion bonus, get massive combat bonuses, and my 3 WFT get to protect themselves with the "hide-hide" ability.

Still spitballing but something along the lines of stacking bonuses.

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>>54978473
That's intentional though, same with rat swarms and Verminlord's they don't have the Skaven keyword

Rats bred for, or just living among Skaven are not...Skaven. Likewise Verminlords are daemons

>>54978614
You can't stack dudes. Each has to be their own model

Where are you guys getting the updated points costs? How is the discount worked out on large/horde units

>>54978762
http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F253031-%C3%A9pingl%C3%A9-manuel-du-g%C3%A9n%C3%A9ral-v2%2F

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Didn't read the new GHB, is horde Skaven a thing now ? I eared that you get a discount if you take full strenght units, is that true ? Also, did the Skaven have specific relics and traits ?

I want my 120 clanrats to be usefull again

>>54978736
Isn't this breaking any allegiance stuff? Like some skaven shenanigans I'm not aware about?

>>54978791
Skryre and pestilens have a rule now where they get +2 bravery for every 10 models in a unit. Other than that, I don't see the point, especially for plague monks (I'm running monks in 30s now)

>>54978791
>I want my 120 clanrats to be usefull again
Run 40 for spears and 20 for blades, that's the trick

>>54978817
>Skryre and pestilens

The fuck ? What about Verminus ? It's the Clan that use Horde tactics the most.

>>54978808
More like this pic?

>>54978614
The only model that can use its Command Ability is your general, and there's only one general per army. If a Hero is in your army, has a Command Ability, but is not your general, it cannot use its Command Ability.

>>54978614
Unless you take a specific item, you can only use your general's command ability

>>54978830
How would plague monks be in a 40 with staff+dagger? And then a couple or 30s? Seeing as the clawpack isn't a thing anymore, I'm probably gonna have to run the cong of filth and need someone to guard a furnace?

>>54978896
I realize the Verminus rule says it only applies to the generic general. But you can use more than one command ability.

"Lead from the Back:
Skaven leaders have a tradition of leading from the
back. This battalion’s Skaven Warlord can use his Gnash-gnaw on their Bones!
command ability even if he is not your general. When he uses this ability, it will
affect all units from his Clawpack that are within 13" of him when they attack in
the combat phase, but only if there are no enemy models within 3" of him."

>>54978091

GW logic:
>Write rules to encourage 40+ strong units thinking it'll make people buy twice as much
>Many players priced out of the hobby
>Fantasy is dying, better go nuclear and reboot the whole game

>>54978977
Player logic:
>watch old bad game die, uninterested
>buy books and models for new, fun reboot of old bad game
>play new fun game while minority of salty oldfags complain online about how one new army looks

WFB was on life support for a decade, pulling the plug was a mercy.

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What do you guys think of this Verminus list?
1500 Points

Can battle line units come from allies? I wanna run Skryre allegiance, but I don't wanna use acolytes.

So with the new points costs everything seems to be coming up roses for the Tzeentch-StD army I was thinking about.

Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount
Chaos Sorcerer Lord
Gaunt Summoner with Familiars
36 Marauders
9 Chaos Warriors
9 Chaos Warriors
9 Chaos Knights
Chaos Warshrine
2 Gorebeast Chariots
2 Gorebeast Chariots

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Without the pestilens clawpack, should I now use the congregation of filth, or just go without a battalion? Also, what gets me more bang for my buck: a foulrain congregation or 2 warp lightning cannons allied in?

Help motivate me to paint this Ironclad /aosg/. I've had it for months probably and every time I pull it out I get overwhelmed at the sheer amount of details and work to be done and end up not doing anything.

>>54979154
Why are your points costs not in multiples of 10?

>>54979154
Can't take in 9s minimum of 10. Love the fluff attempt though

What's better for a 1000 point game? A verminlord corruptor or a plague furnace?

>Dust off old HE Army ffom 7th
>Get a copy of the old General's handbook
>I used to love my Silverhelms, are they any good in this edition?
>No such unit in AoS
>Well okay, how about my trusty spearmen and archers
>Fat fucking chance

Wtf, did any other races get gutted so hard?
The only HE units are all the shiny centre piece bits.

>>54979308
Use the compendium, they are there

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>>54979308
Everything just got split into autisticly small mini factions

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>>54979172
>tfw someone saves your OC

Let's see..i would rate the Congregation poorly, but the reroll is nice. If the Clawpack is kill-kill then it may be the only option for getting 2 Artifacts.it certainly ain't the Foulrain or censer one

Pretty sure 2 WLC's are better. was praying for a reduction on the Plagueclaw, we got jack.

Wait until we know the 4 relics and if having more than one is truly worth it. Go without til then.

>>54979255
Corruptor, especially with the Liber Bubonicus Artifact for prayers AND magic. with bigger numbers the Furnace bravery buff is less mandatory, it's buffs are about equal to the VL command ability

why are there so many skaven all of a sudden

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>>54979460
Basically replied to me twice :^)

Loved your art by the way. Always looking for more pestilens stuff.
Now I just need to figure out if units of 20 or 30 are best. Before it was 20 hands down, but with the bravery buff, 30s might be good.
In 1k I'd be using either 3x20 or 2x30. 2k, I used to do 4 20s in a clawpack.

What are you planning on using as allies (if anything) my plague ridden friend?

>>54975088
Arkanauts don't have the shiny "we changed shit" star next to their name. They're good.

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>>54979560
>so many skaven
>many skaven
>many
>skaven
We've always been here-here. Hiding in the walls and floors of this General. Now that something concerns us, we will squeak-speak our thoughts.

Stormcast changes

Pour les SE les changements de coût sont:
Liberator 100/520 pour 30
Prime: 340
Lord sur Stardrake: 560
Prosecutor javeline: 100
Tempestor: 220

80 point discount for maximum blob of liberators, pretty sweet

Small discount for prime

Moderate discount for celestant star drake

Javelin prosecutors really never should have been 80

Tempestor discount is warranted but not sure if it makes them viable yet

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How's this for 1000 points pestilens?

Allegiance: Pestilens

Heroes
Verminlord Corruptor (220)
- General
-Liber Bubonicus
-some pestilens command trait based leaker please show skreeeeeeeeeeeeee
Plague Priest with Warpstone-tipped Staff (80)
Plague Priest with Plague Censer (80)

Battleline
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Foetid Blades
- Pestilens Battleline
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Foetid Blades
- Pestilens Battleline
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Foetid Blades
- Pestilens Battleline

War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)
-Ally

Total: 980/1000

Could also swap a priest for 10 monks onto a unit

>>54979560
I don't know if it has any relation, but the new Total War game just announced Skaven. Rats everywhere.

>>54978286
As a longtime Empire player, I came around to Stormcast the more I realized they were the einhardjir where my dudes ended up if they were badass enough.

>>54979947
That's actually one of the things giving me hope and motivation again to paint rats. Vermintide got me into warhammer, and seeing my rats do cool shit again is further motivation

>>54979989
I got into Warhammer like 10 years ago, took a huge break when the people I played with stopped playing, and when I got into TW:W I got the itch again and came back.

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>Mah boy dropped 50 points
Yay I can finally use him. I guess there is a plus side to collecting and painting your whole army range. When the model becomes viable you already have it ready to go

>>54979588
>>54979842

Coloring something now. pretty cool list the WLC will be good support. For Allies i was thinking a Wind launcher, seems fluffy and decent synergy with a Plagueclaw

My old 1k list was like
>Pestilent Clawpack:
x2 30 Monks
1 20 man
Plague Furnace
Skrolk

I think. I bet the dick heads remove Skrolk too...but if so, i'll just keep using him at my LGS

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>>54979560
This is the ideal Warhammer army. You may not like it, but this is what squeak performance looks like.

>>54977408
Imperial Guard are closer to Skaven than to Empire, they both use ogres, hordes of cheap cowardly troops, tanks and stormtroopers.

>>54980062
See, I always used to do a priest instead of skrolk, for that second crown. Not much point now since you can't take two of the same.

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>>54980159
take some ratswords

>>54980201
Considered stormvermin, but I just can't turn down that warp lightning cannon. Just debating between running 3x20 monks and a second priest (third prayer) or 2x20 + 1x30 monks

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>>54980201
>>54980252
Forgot the pic

>>54979224
Where does it say that you can't take under strength units? That would make Fatesworn Warband (which should be in my list) and the like unusable.

>>54975428

Google says:
Assassination: 'Murder (an important person) in a surprise attack for political or religious reasons.'

Hard to sneak up on cunts in golden fucking plate armour.

>>54980446
from the rules errata
>Q: In Pitched Battles, does the Under-strength Units rule
>override the restriction in the rules for warscrolls that says you
>can only field one unit that is of less than the minimum size?

>A: No. Also, note that a unit can be ‘under-strength’
>and still above minimum size. For example, a unit of
>7 Liberators would be above the minimum size but
>still under-strength.

>>54980201
>>54980281
I am so stealing that idea.

>>54979224
Chaos warriors are now min 5. That list will be legal in GH17.
>>54975706

I own some Daemons of Nurgle from my 40k army. The new morticulos guy looks pretty cool but i dont really need more plaguebearers and outside of the dual axe lady the stormcast look kinda lame. How is daemons of nurgle as a sigmar army? What kinda fancy special rules do they get in this new generals handbook?

>>54981070
Huh, that's a weird distinction to make, but I guess there's some balance reason for it.

I doubt my regular opponents will mind me being one over on under minimum strength units. Hell replacing the Warriors with two blocks of 18 Marauders would probably be better, but I like to have a mix of Warrior and Marauder models.

>>54981409
They are pretty decent but got a little bit of trouble with gunlines. Might want to invest in either artillery or mortal units. But still viable. Guo is a tanky mofo.

>>54981421
Bringing 9 chaos warriors is legal now they have a min unit size of 5.

>>54981435
I don't own a GUO. Got a soulgrinder, plaguebearers, nurglings, plague drones, heralds and a daemon prince.

>>54981469
it is still "under strength" though. Again perfectly rules legal, but getting a couple extra models off ebay or whatever would be a benefit for no extra points.

>>54981038
Vanguard chambers hunt by tirelessly chasing their prey rather than sneaking up on niggas

They want to be easily seen so their enemies die tired

>>54981339
I just thought of this myself. So now it'll be:

Allegiance: Tzeentch
Gaunt Summoner and Chaos Familiars (120)
- Artefact: Souldraught
- Lore of Fate: Treacherous Bond
Chaos Lord On Daemonic Mount (140)
- General
- Artefact: Paradoxical Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (160)
- Runestaff
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
- Lore of Fate: Bolt of Tzeentch
5 x Chaos Knights (160)
- Ensorcelled Weapons
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
5 x Chaos Knights (160)
- Ensorcelled Weapons
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
36 x Chaos Marauders (200)
- Axes & Shields
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
9 x Chaos Warriors (180)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
9 x Chaos Warriors (180)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
2 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (200)
- War Flail
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
2 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (200)
- War Flail
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
1 x Chaos Warshrine (180)
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
Fatesworn Warband (100)

Total: 1980/2000

>>54981483
Not sure if Soulgrinder has rules but what you have sounds good in itself. Check out the OP for rules, you can get all info ye need there. Or the warscroll builder to get testing lists.

>>54981496
Having units in multiples of 9 gives them a 6+ save vs all wounds in Fatesworn Warband.

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>>54981483
>>54981519
Here's what I use for 1000 points:

Allegiance: Chaos

Heroes
Daemon Prince Of Nurgle (160)
- General
Herald Of Nurgle (100)

Battleline
10 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (100)
10 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (100)

Units
6 x Plague Drones Of Nurgle (440)
3 x Nurglings (80)

Total: 980/1000

Keep the prince with the fly swarm to activate their buff and cap objtives, and the herald with everything else.

>>54977968
>Going through the old warbooks and getting S and T

All of you mother fuckers were complaining about that shit when WHFB left and now you have to eat crow.

A skeleton shouldn't be able to harm a dragon as easily as he harms a shit farmer and tactical depth should be more about using effective units to counter others and less about dumping attacks on a target and praying for the best or spamming all available ways to stack mortal wounds.

>>54981614
I've got the models for that.

I wasn't reading /aosg/ for a few months. Is the anon doing rumour engine compilation pics still around?

>>54981630
I for one prefer the new system. While the S and T system was good, it nullified far too many units vs others and essentially caused the rules fiasco which murdered it casually and competitively to begin with. Monsters too big, need more infantry. More monsters requires more infantry to kill and/or artillery spam.

>>54981614
>27 units send to fight enemy army

>giant 20 foot daemon and giant plague flies cap

How does this work man? Why not chop armies up with DP?

>>54980062
Forgot to say, when you're finished that "something", do share

>>54981630
I like S and T, but at the same time, if a nigga charges a Spirit of Durthu into 80+ grots, six fanatics, three troggoths and the warboss in supported, it should go bye-bye

>>54981711
Got them backwards. Sorry. You're right. Haven't played that list in a while.

Yeah, use the flies and the prince to fuck up the enemy while using your immovable wall of plaguebearers to cap

>>54981726
Unsupported
Fucking phone posting!

>>54981668
> it nullified far too many units vs others

That would be the point of tactics, yes.

If you can match strength to weakness you should win. It's a rock paper scissors system. If you always match strength to strength the glaring weaknesses of balance shine brightest and you have an even greater number of units who cant compete in any situation rather than only in narrow ones.

>>54981738
No issue was just curious cause I was thinking how the plagues and herald were expected to take on opposition which could also be heavy infantry.

Cool stuff though man, sounds brutal.

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>>54979842
Would this work better? Dunno if the extra monks are worth it over the priest and his prayer, especially with that chance to activate echoes

>>54981726
If that unit can chew through infantry, there is literally nothing wrong with the Orcs losing.

You aren't using the correct tools to counter his.

>>54981768
Allegiance: Chaos

Heroes
Verminlord Corruptor (220)
- General
Plague Priest with Plague Censer (80)

Battleline
30 x Plague Monks (210)
- Foetid Blades
- Pestilens Battleline
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Foetid Blades
- Pestilens Battleline
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Foetid Blades
- Pestilens Battleline

War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)

Total: 970/1000

Forgot to include the list

>>54981775
Which just makes the game rock-paper-scissors, while being at a disadvantage before any dice are rolled.

>>54981775
Which is a problem in itself. The game is too small scale to tailor around focusing down one or two specific problems. It would also render grot armies unviable against any of the armies with anything T4 and higher

>>54981745
I know it was more complex than just S and T but it was that as well as a myriad of other issues which cost WHF its popularity and rule balance.

AoS also had uber mensch lists but the extremes I heard from 6th to 8th in fantasy were obscene. WAAC lists out the bum. That was the meta and while I know every game suffers from that to an extent, WHF was appalling and the system collapsed trying to correct itself.

AoS is far from perfect too but I much prefer its simplicit approach on the simple principle its easier to coprrect critical balance issues.

So Skaven are now the OP army du jour?

Is GW taking advantage of the closet furry market?

>>54981745
Sounds more like a pay 2 win system. Unlike vidya the cost of buying countrs costs $$$ which is insane.

>>54980060

Fuck i love the look of chimeras, I wish THAT what was included in the StD SC instead of a gay chariot.

Is Chimera even good? Might pick one up for my GA Chaos army

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>>54981828
>skaven
>op
Good one anon. You can only take one warpflamer per three stormfiends now, warpfire throwers got points increased, all our battalions got large price hikes, not to mention the only good pestilens formation disappearing from the game. The only real boost comes from the allegiances (which we needed) and the allies system that makes armies more fluffy and certain units useable.
But ya know, HPA got lowered 60 points, so I guess we're top tier now-now.
Kys

>>54981919
Don't forget thanquol and boneripper being 400 points now. Say goodbye to your armies. Say hello to instant 2D6 mortal wounds and long range spells.

>>54981908
Could be a good alternative to a daemon prince. Do a point and warscroll conparison and check them out

>>54980060
>>54981908
i converter stormcast lord on dra-something form starter box in to chimera now its looks less retarded

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>>54981919
>>54981958
Over all: skaven skryre are still fine albeit with an overall point increase and nerf. Pestilens? Low tier. Verminous? Since you can only take one crown, middle tier (easily better than plague rats).
I think pestilens is meant to be a nurgle ally and not it's own army though.

>>54977695
Straussberg

Heldenheim

Kartoffel

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>>54982088
I like them. Will use. Will finish the map tomorrow. Just need to add some flavor in the form of trees and a more detailed skaven nest

Any changes to free peoples in GH2?

>>54981783
>>54981768
Where is this literature from?

>>54981919
You wanna run that stormfiend shtick past me again?

So is the Mutalith Vortex Beast any good?

Ebay seller kinda fucked me over by sending me the wrong thing when I ordered a LoC, and I doubt I can find another one for that price, so would one of them be a semi-decent replacement?

>>54982121
Just...just don't use Kartoffel.

>>54982153
Greatswords and guard get a major discount at max size

Griffin general is even cheaper for some reason

Outriders and pistoliers are cheaper

We haven't had their allegiance trait and relics spoiled yet

>>54982179
Didn't that get posted on the news site a while ago, like when the thundertusk change was shown? Or am I just thinking of what some twat said on here?

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>>54982154
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/18/conquering-for-chaos-in-the-generals-handbook-2017-aug-18gw-homepage-post-4/

>>54982206
Why?

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>>54982325
>potato
I'll use "Weschler farm", "Scheissfeld farm", "Straussberg farm", and Faulenfisch (the port town)

>>54982325
Because it means potato.
Unless you want your town to be called potato.

>>54982478
>>54982471

ayyye he asked for FARM names. why can't you name your farm "potato" if its a potato farm?

Is the Potato farmstead potato-farm too redundant?

so I want to build up my Snorecasts some, as all I have from them is the starter set crap. What would be some generally good units/heroes to pick up?

I go against tzeentch and khorne regularly, so I was thinking that some Judicators, some Vanguard Raptors and a Lord Castellant would be decent?

>>54982604
Really depends on the opponents army list man. Until we get a point leak for them its hard to judge but on paper they sound like good choices

>snorecast

Why diss your own army? Poor Stormies fighting for you and all.

I'm looking to get started with AoS, is the Warscroll builder in the OP more or less updated for the leaks?

Can't find the plagueclaw scroll on the Webstore, so I looked at the old skaven compendium and holy hell.
Has this thing been nerfed so far?
2+ to hit and 2D6 wounds on units of 10 or more. Damn.

Brand new player here, are all the unit rules still found in the compendiums, while the army org stuff is in the general's handbook?

>>54982948
Probably not until it comes out for real, since I think the leaks just came out today, and since Scrollbuilder is somewhat official now, they probably wouldn't want leaks there.

>>54983067
Okay, I see the Battletomes, but are the rules for all the stuff not in those still in the compendiums?

>>54979141
Use stormfiends. I'm in your same boat, you need a fuck ton of single pose 10 buck each model to make a decent battleline sadly. And they have short range shooting and shit save.

>>54982957
But 4+ to wound. Also all the units you should be scared of are the ones that don't come in units of 10 or more and its effectiveness drops off rather massively against smaller units.

>>54981919
"You can only take one warpflamer per three stormfiends now"
What? There's no updated warscroll afaik?

>>54982957
It's pretty meh once you consider the warp lightning cannon and the fact that most armies use units of 10 or less. I'm just allying in some WLC instead of using a foulrain now

>>54983270
>10 or more
It's only for units of MORE than 10 :(

>>54982015
Someone please tell me the bit about pestilens is a lie

would it be seen as lazy to base and paint a mid to low model count army of stormcast to be like statues? (chipped/cracked marble, patina on bronze, with raised bases and so on)

>>54983393
has been done before, looks fantastic if you do it right. Go for it!

2000 Points of Skaven

Arch Warlock
Warlock Engineer (Arkspark)
10 Acolytes
3 Stormfiends with Ratling Guns
3 Poisonwind Mortars
1 Warpgrinder (for the Stormfiends)
2 Warpflamethrowers
2 Warplightning Cannons (Arkspark)
Clan Skryre
Arkspark Voltik

Allies
Plague Priest
20 Plague Monks
1 Plagueclaw

>>54983516
Meh. On second thought, I should probably invest in a third warplightning cannon instead.

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>>54983393

>>54982948
>is the Warscroll builder in the OP more or less updated for the leaks?

Is the official army building tool updated with leaked info?

Take a wild guess.

I thought GW cancelled Warhammer Fantasy because of "Age of Sigmar" or something related?
I want to haven the skaven

im sorry for bad joke

Rotbringers points - I need them so badly!

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>Moonclan got nerfed
>TFW still going to play the fuck out of them

Scourge Privateer points haven't leaked have they?

May be a long shot, but is anyone into this game around Kadena AB, Okinawa? Thinking about getting into it.