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New Nurgle Daemon for AoS edition

Also new FAQ for Chaoscucks

>Necromunda is coming back.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/

>New Chaos and GK FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/20/chaos-space-marines-and-grey-knights-updates-now-availablegw-homepage-post-4/

>Konor Campaign: Chaos getting cucked, again.
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>Check your local store's contribution to the Campaign.
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
>Codex: Space Marines FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/10/codex-space-marines-errata-now-available/
>Codex: Chaos Space Marine supplement for Daemons, Thousand Sons and Death Guard players
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/daemons-and-thousand-sons-in-codex-chaos-space-marines-aug-13gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing the Emperor's work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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first for thousand sons
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>>54973736
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>>54973760

Which are still cucked and made borderline unplayable by the new dex and FAQs did not even touch them.
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3rd for a Hero
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>>54973787
cos they got a codex coming out you ninny
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Alright anons, now that the dust has settled, how do you like 8th and nuGW?
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8TH FOR CUTEDAR Technically Twilight Sisters from WHFB but who cares
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>>54973766
>he plays Rhinos instead of just more 'zerkers
Is it still 7th? Were the last few months just a blissful dream?
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What's the best way to support WE khorne berzerkers?
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>>54973686
I haven't been home in weeks and I want to finish painting/basing mine. Also I wish I could take better pictures, but I have like no lighting.

General question. What are some ideas for "My Dudes"ing my Necrons. They have personalities or something now right?
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>>54973802
I'd like you to fuck off to >>>/v/.

>>54973767
Not at all, I'm just sick of obvious no proof reading when I was told it was super playtested!
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>>54973801

Sure

After DG and at least two xenos and two imperial dexes.

and they are substantially unplayable till the dex hits.

See you in december.
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Hey friendos, ill have a game next monday against dark eldar (50 power levels) and i was wondering what do you think about this list, also im runing a heavy chosen list , but im willing to change it, let me hear your thougts, also here is a custom chosen i made last weak, updated photos are yet to be taken
Alpha legion
*HQ
-Chaos Lord, Bolt pistol, viper sword
*Troops
-30x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon 3 Chaos Cultist w/Flamer
*Elites
-Chosen, Champion Bolt pistol, Power axe,
4x Chosen w/ boltgun,4 Chosen w/ Combi-flamer.
-Chosen
Chosen Champion Bolt pistol, Power axe
4x Chosen w/ boltgun, 4 Chosen w/ Combi-plasma.
-Helbrute, Reaper autocannon, Helbrute fist(Heavy flamer)
*Fast Attack
-Chaos Bikers
2 x Chaos r, Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
Chaos Biker Champion Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter

Hope to hear your opinion
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>>54973824
more berzerkers
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>>54973812
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>>54973787
After the borderline retardation with the Noise Marines and Khorne Berzerkers was fixed, I'm pretty sure I know what GW's stance on "Thousand Sons can't use anything printed in the CSM Codex" would be.

They would laugh in your face you butthurt little faggot
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>>54973774
Glad I'm not alone here. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw him.
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>>54973846
Forbidden for being two girls, or forbidden for being twins (and therefore sisters)?
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>>54973838
>After DG
They get the same codex, with chaos daemons added in too.
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>>54973794
Que?
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>>54973774
Have I miss some new models or something?
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>>54973846
Eh, they're twins. It's practically just masturbation.
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>>54973831
You Lords, Overlords and Crypteks have actual personalities. Warriors are still mindless drones. Immortals are a bit less braindead, and can function without someone giving them explicit orders, while Lychguard keep their old mind, but are programmed to obey only their Overlord and protect him at all cost.
That's about as much personality as possible. Of course, a Cryptek or Overlord can do whatever the fuck he wants to, nobody will stop them.
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>>54973862

Did you notice that the WE/EC was an ERRATA and not a FAQ?

Which pretty much means GW recognized rules worked like that, and needed to be changed.

Until they do so for 1KS, have fun playing just named characters, tzangoros and scarabs.
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>>54973872
Now that's some forbidden love
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warhammer-40K-Ultimate-Tau-Empire-Bundle-New-Sealed-RRP-451-/263156032187?hash=item3d455262bb:g:-IAAAOSw9R1ZmKyl

VALUE
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>>54973890
Two new models, both for AoS.

Grand Cultivator named dude (Nurgle's gardener).

And some female Sigmarine. (Here come female Space Marines, watch out sexists!)
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>>54973881

>GW releasing one dex when they could force you ro buy 3

Yeah sure, like GK SoB and inquisition got an unified dex, right?
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>>54973923

>Tau

hardly valuable
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>>54973890
no. Its one new nurgle model for AoS. though daemons have always been used for both games, so we might see rules for it for 40k? maybe.
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>>54973923
>bid
It'll shoot up at the end
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nth for /cozy/ ork home
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>pls buff WKs
what a time
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>>54973736
Alright lads, take 2. I think I've got a tourney-ready list that can punch some faces in. Anything comments/concerns appreciated, but yes I know the bezerkers can be troops now

Alpha Legion battalion detachment:
>sorcerer in terminator armor: combi-bolter, force axe (158)
>daemon prince: wings, two claws, intoxicating elixir (180)
>10 cultists (40)
>10 cultists (40)
>10 cultists (40)
>6 terminators: combi-plasma, power weapon (300)
>3 obliterators (195)
>3 obliterators (195)

World Eaters vanguard detachment:
>exalted champion: power weapon (74)
>9 khorne bezerkers: chainaxes, 1 power weapon (157)
>5 khorne bezerkers: chainaxes, 1 power weapon (89)
>5 khorne bezerkers: chainaxes, 1 power weapon (89)
>metal bawks: combi-bolter (72)
>leviathan dreadnought: butcher cannon array, siege drill, meltagun, 2 hellflamers (371)
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where are the rules for scarab occult terminators? In the chaos index or chaos codex?
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>>54973774
Greenstuff the arm for your very own dabbing Dembele
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>>54973960
If you're too busy living in a downed fighter, then you're muckin' about.
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>>54974020
action figure eldars btfo
geedubz does it again
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>>54974024
Berserkers are troops you butt. Just use two Battalions
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So, Imperial Fists. I am trying to think of a good and fluffy list but I cannot come with anything other than entrenched devs. Probably some assault termies.

Mind hwlping a newbie out?
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>>54974020
I thought wraithknights compared pretty equally to imperial knights, which are at least okay choices?
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>>54973925
Why are all the new GW models over-designed as fuck?

This thing would look so badass without all the extra shit it doesn't need. Imagine if this thing was just a gigantic gastropod with no mouth, nose, or eyes and had a biggass plow chained to it's shell, with maybe a chair or something for the other demon to ride on. Make the shell gnarly and cover the skin with blisters. Bam, obviously Nurgle, not over designed, and fits the same theme.

I swear it's like GW is trying to keep people out by making all the new stuff look like ass.
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I picked up a Praetor that I'm gonna convert to a Chaos fella. I'm not too keen on the head. Any ideas on something that would fit it nicely? Bare heads are a plus, especially if they have a lot of lenses and implants.
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>>54974024
Again, Khorne Berzerkers are Troops for World Eaters again, so get another HQ and you have a second Battalion, not a Vanguard detachment.
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>>54974072
if you like lenses use the nurgle head from CSM kit, it has like 3 of those
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>>54974024
does the AL forward operatives stratagem work on a different legion? if it doesn't just chance the WE canguard into an AL vanguard
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>>54973794
All that's missing is a hammer and sickle.
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>berzerkers are troops
IMPERIALFAGS BTFO
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>>54973941
I'll wait for the first one to buy this thing and give it a non-cartoony paintjob.
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>>54973941
>>54973925
Turns out the rumour was right. It will get 40k rules as it's shown in 40k artwork.
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>>54974170
Come at me, I'm behind 7 Predators
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>>54974071
Yeah! I want old GOAT models.
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>>54974150
For...what? I think the dude is from Boston not Russia
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>>54974175
Where?

>>54974071
You do know you can just convert the stuff you don't want away, right? The Herald on top would work damn well if just sat down on a rock, the tree you could probably remove completely and the nose and mouth can be smoothed out with a pair of clippers and some green stuff. And hoo boy am I ever going to cut that happy merchant nose off.
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>>54973774
WACHA
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>>54974064
I've seen them melt knights more than a few times. That guy misses 7th me thinks.
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>>54974191
>he only has 7 predators
BRING IT ON FAGGOT
RIP AND TEAR
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>>54974027
Index. The Thousand Sons codex will be along soon though.
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>>54973925
>Mario reference
Heh. Oh GW you so crazy.
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>>54973925
Well, female Sigmarines have been canon since the start, so no problem with that. I don't see them doing it in 40k but who knows.

>>54974224
The art with Mortarion attacking girlyman had things with multiple legs.
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Redpill me on new Obliterators.

Are they good now?
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>>54974020

>elfdar queers BEGGING GW to bring back the cheese

Pathetic!
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>>54973925
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>>54973774
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>>54974170
I love fighting Berserkers. They get absolutely decimated by my army every game and they run to me so I don't have to waste any time or effort moving across the field.

>tfw Arcos and Death Cult Assassins are better than Berserkers
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>tfw berzerkers are troops again
The dream is real lads! Post zerker music to celebrate!

https://youtu.be/a6BbvCC0VI0
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Some custom marines

First a sternguard.

Note marines are not manlets, just have bad poses
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>>54974172
>non-cartoony paintjob
goddamn. this. I think a lot of GW's paint schemes actively make the models look so much worse than they are.
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>>54974020
>appeal to emotion "GW, it is your model, please pay attention to this"
>appeal to personal interest "I have a really well-painted WKinght. It's so pity that..."
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I BOUGHT THIS MODEL TO WIN GAMES AND IT'S WORTHLESS FUCKING FIX PLZ REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WAACfags are scum.
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Second Sternguard
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What are the best weapon for Intercessors?

What are the best weapons for Hellblasters?
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>>54973941
Maybe. The gaunt summoner never made it across into 40k (unless you use it as a generic herald, of course).
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>>54973793

more like

>tfw seizure

wtf is this shit
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>>54974339
>Note marines are not manlets, just have bad poses
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>>54974219
>Anon is complaining about models being over designed...
>I know, I'll post some under designed models, that'll show him!

Jesus Christ, do you put one brick of charcoal in your grill to cook with too? There's such a thing as too little, just like there's such a thing as too much.
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A company captain for when I proxy as Blood Angels
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Did people actually fix the look of reivers?
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>>54973824
Dark Apostle and a Champion. Metal bawxes. I think I'm going with two squads of five in one, a squad of 8 in another with both HQ. Relatively cheap battalion detachment.
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>>54974335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGHAJWD0LAo
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>>54974332
>so assblasted he turns to b8
Ahahahahahahaha faggot enjoy my 61 S6 Ap-1 + 20 S5 attacks a turn ahahahahahaha
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>>54974367
I thought this was suppose to be it desu.As for the female Sigmarine, I'm gonna use her as an inquisitor.
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And a Honor Guard for the chapter master

A miracle of technology, he is ancient and his best pals are dead or dreadnoughts
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My GW store won't record your results for the Konor Campaign unless you spend $45 every week. It's like they don't want people to participate.
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>>54974363
>>54974339
>The Manlet Marines
I like it. It's got a nice ring to it.
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>>54974389
https://youtu.be/XNkRBowsAmI
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>>54974385
yeah you give them a regular helmet instead of a goofy piece of shit out of call of duty
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>>54974390
Really isn't bait. I really do like fighting Berserkers. They crash into my Conscripts, wipe them, then sit out in the open and get counter-charged and diced up by Arcos and Death Cult Assassins. It feels good every time because of people like you thinking your unit is hot shit.
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>>54973839
Why not split the blob of cultists into three smaller ones? And you really need more characters since you're going alpha legions. Drop something and grab a champion or two.
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>>54974405

Report them to GW custserv
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>>54974405
>Giving a fuck about some shit campaign that was already over when it began
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>>54974365
>What are the best weapon for Intercessors?
Their fists, and a power sword on the sergeant.
>What are the best weapons for Hellblasters?
Their fists.
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>>54974428
Did that a week ago, haven't gotten a reply and nothing has changed.
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>>54974339
>Note marines are not manlets, just have bad poses
All they had to do is give them non squat pose and make their legs little longer and it would've been sweet
BUT NOO WE NEED A WHOLE NEW FUCKING LINE OF MODELS ONLY FOR SM
fuck that
>>54974286
he has a painted model so it's ok
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>>54974400
those look more like starcraft ultralisks rather than snails too me, but idk.
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>>54974072
That color is so amazing.
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>>54974404
you better paint him as a Black Templar
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>>54974363
>Manlet Marine so ass devastated that he's short that he stands on random rocks to appear taller

I like it for real, but I will forever mock Marines for being small.
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>>54974453
Was the multilegs, but yeah. Who knows now. Who fucking knows? If it isn't, it's not a shame. It can be used to hit bash or it can be used as a mount for a Daemon Prince or Herald or something.
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>>54974420
>literal conscrip spammer pretending to be skilled
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Top kek what are you going to do with all those unpainted models whem GW nerfs them to the ground? Lmao burn then on video like you did with your Riptides?
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>>54974415
well... its not like skull helmets is NEW to 40k either... granted they belonged exclusivly to the edgy marines, but its not completely out of no where.
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>>54974305
Eh, reminds me more of the Gromble.
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>>54974472

No

He's a miracle of technology and revered by eveyone includng the chapter master himself, and is asked for advice by everyone.

Just a regular honor guard though in game
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>>54974492
I know you're not posting your cheetahs so you don't get banned, but did you even read his post? Or are you one of those shitposters who can't read English?

>>54974415
Space Marines have had skull masks for fucking decades, newfag. You're like that dude I talk to about fluff being 'wrong' when literally today he didn't even know Space Marines could only be male.
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>>54974493
Spoopy Marines got nothing on the loyalists in the skull department.
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>>54974492
Oh you're like that. The Guard parts of my army are fully painted. But I will admit my Ministorum units need painting.
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>>54974493
literal skull from a dead body incorporated into the armour>>>edgy armour shaped to look a skull
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>>54974493
what the fuck am I on about? goddamned chaplains too. fuck im stupid.
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>>54974365
Any help would be great.

>>54974442
I d-don't play Space Sharks.
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>>54974536
>everyone who blows me the fuck out is cheetafag
Lmao
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>>54974499
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>>54974282
>195 points for 12 shots averaged at S8 AP-2 D2, on a deeptstriking terminator with 3 wounds
Yeah, specially since you roll stats before you choose the target. And it's not heavy weapons
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>>54974536
space marines have had literal skulls turned into masks for decades, not dumb masks made to look like skulls.
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>>54974493
And people made fun of the edgy marines for a good reason.

Wearing a skull helmet as a chaplain to remind those around you of what happened to the Emperor : edgy, but not too much

Everybody wearing skull helmets because WE'RE SO SPOOPY : please, grow up.
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>>54974560
Yeah Krumm fits too.
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>>54974560
>head is Krumm's nose
Clever
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>>54974548
Enjoy your nerf kek. Can't wait for the flood of screencaps of waacfag tears, just like with the tau cucks.
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>>54974562
I thought you rolled after picking?

Basically Ctan from 7th.
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>>54973941
>>54973925
Looks way to wacky and "lol randum". The daemons of nurgle are mephorical "cultivators" of disease.

Giving nurgle a literal daemon gardener with a pair of daemon garden sheers riding a giant goofy daemon garden snail (who presumibly eats daemon lettuce) is too far.
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>>54974335
>not posting the official anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL19beIJSE0
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Is there any way to play russes competitively now or should i just put them on my shelf to gather dust?
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>>54974571
>>54974549

wait. your problems are that they arent using actual skulls? Not the skull design themselves? Or are you just arguing to argue. because the designed armour makes more sense than using BONES as armour, considering the level of tech that people are fighting with in 40k.

>>54974585
fair enough.
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>>54974604
It won't make much of a difference to me. The nefs I'm expecting are Conscripts, which I only use one blob of, and artillery and HWS prices going up, which I don't use much of either. Those will be good nerfs. I also expect Yarrick to be nerfed or to be upped in price.
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>>54974630
FAQ'd
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>>54974651
> the designed armour makes more sense than using BONES as armour, considering the level of tech that people are fighting with in 40k.
Then why the fuck were they using real bones for all those years?

Killing someone and making their skull into a helmet - badass
Just wearing a helmet shaped to look a skull - edgy and lame
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>>54974666
OH thank God might bring them
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>>54973774
Believe in the Nurgle that believes in you!
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My GM's running a game set in the 40k universe, but our characters are primitives with no recollection of Imperial culture beyond a hatred for mutants, greenskins, other aliens and the false gods.

They're barely surviving in the industrial ruins of I-don't-know-what.

We've run into (and killed) a creature that I've never heard of in the 40k universe, but my GM's knowledge of the setting trumps mine by decades.

It was a six-legged beast with a maw full of sharp teeth. When we attacked it, heat began to emanate from its head, as if it were getting ready to breathe fire. When it should have died (as far as we could tell), it vanished into nothingness instead. It didn't have any mechanical parts, so it wasn't a hexapod turret under the influence of chaos.

Does this sound like an existing creature, or is it just a combination of bog standard dragons and warp fuckery?
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>>54973736
>>Konor Campaign: Chaos getting cucked, again.
Uh, Chaos is winning on Vanitor right now...
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>>54974705
Probably just copypasting the last thread and the thread before that
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>>54974705
It was winning.

Then losing.

Now winning again.

Clearly the 2 points I contributed yesterday.
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>>54974020
Wraithknights are excellent titankillers. Take 'em with the sword and run into whatever superheavy your opponent has, it is very likely to break it, and if you stick fortune on the WK it is retardedly hard to kill. They're kinda poor if they don't have anything their own size to slug with though.
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>>54973862
How was zekers and noise marines as troops retarded?
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>>54974493

>acquire Night Lords
>paint them up as Crimson Fists

what the hell man
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>>54974752
maybe not retarded, but Zerkers and Noise Marines might just be the best units in the Codex
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Does anyone have a PDF of all the Data cards? like the ones chaos just came out with?
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>>54974683
because 40k is edgy, why else? and I agree, wearing the skulls of your enemies is a cool thing to do (it is ALSO edgy as fuck, but lets be honest, most of us enjoy a little edge to our toy space men), but to hate on the reivers JUST because of the skull design, while not hating on all the other skulls makes no sense.

They do look worse, though. I will admit that.
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>>54974365

Default equipment is always a safe bet

Stalker bolters are pretty decent for a backline objective camper unit

Assault plasmas are good since they get 2 shots all the way out to 24"
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>>54974686
If you believed in yourself, you probably wouldn't worship Nurgle.
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>>54973839
what's with the transparent bits?
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>>54974632
WOOOOOOOOOOOORLD
EEEEEEETAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!
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>>54974666
I can't find it in the FAQ.
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>>54974812
Recasts, probably.
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>>54974752
The fact that people screeched they weren't allowed as Troops when days before, in the Index, they were and then screeched that the people who didn't get scared off by the obvious typo were filthy cheaters.
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>>54974801
>Assault plasmas are good since they get 2 shots all the way out to 24"

Assault plasmas have a very narrow field in which they are useful. Heavies do about the same amount of damage with a longer range and rapid fire plasmas wipe the floor with both at rapid fire range.
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>>54974841
Heavies can't move and fire effectively, giving them the same effective range as normal plasma and only 6" over the assaults, who are still clearly better against MEQs are equal against T7/T8

Heavies aren't worth considering t b h, normal incinerators are good tho
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so are the newish thousand sons minis and the new death guard models manlets? or are they on par with primaris marines?
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>>54974780
Why? they are just the stratagems and spells
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>>54974882
I'm still shocked by the fact that the armament of the guys in the starter set is actually the best of the bunch.
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>>54974914
They are on par with marines.

Well, TS sorcs are manlets because they are not suits of armor so their space egyptain hats don't count.

>legion of chads zombies led by nerdy manlets

So this is the power of Rubric .. impressive ..
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>>54974191
>green armor
>ultramarine insignia
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>>54974932
With the exception of the bolter lt and gravis captain(he's not bad, just not optimal. Really doesn't need that sword), yeah even bolter inceptors are pretty decent
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>>54974931
You can print them out to avoid paying 15 buckaroos and to avoid writing out all the stratagems and spells on index cards
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>>54974914
The Thousand Sons are slightly smaller in body than Primaris Marines but taller overall because of the head-dresses.
The Death Guard guys are actually the same size as Primaris Marines, but bulkier. Normal CSM look way out of place compared to Rubrics and Plague Marines.
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Decent casual list? Trying to use my renegade tanks with some WE so I have at least some staying power.
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>>54974954
>green
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>>54974914

All marines are bigger now since chaos Dark Vengeance
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>>54973787

it's okay, thousand sons players just cheat anyway so they're fine
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>>54975028
why the fuck didn't they just scale up regular marines instead of making super super soldiers
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>>54974932
It's a shame the actual kit doesn't have stocks on the incinerators.

Does the proper kit even come with regular incinerators? I only see bits for the assault and heavy.
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>>54974954
>green armour
should have gone to specsavers m8
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>>54975014
>>54975079
Okay, so it's brown. I'm colorblind.
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>>54975075
Because people wanted marines to actually play like marines in lore as well. They couldn't just suddenly make all marines 2 wounds and bolters stronger without making existing marine armies like 4000 points
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>>54975028
How big are they compared to Deathwatch Marines?
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what music do they play in your local stores brehs?

They play Sabaton and stuff in mine, and I feel like I would've appreciated it a lot more as a teenager instead of now.
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>>54974834

So are they troops now or Elite
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>>54975096
It's brick red in shadow, it's clearly supposed to be a Blood Ravens tank. Look at the marine in the copula: bone and black pauldrons
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>>54975075
because for all the progress GW has been making, the company is still full of horrible decisions and bullshit ideas.
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>>54974777
And? Cult marines were rank and file for the cult legions long before they were good on the table.
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>>54975136
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>>54975138
so they just stole it from the ultras and painted it red?
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>>54975136
>WORLD EATERS Khorne Berzerkers are Troops instead of Elites
>EMPEROR'S CHILDREN Noise Marines are Troops instead of Elites
just read the FAQ man, it's on the Warhammer Community page.
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>>54975136
For World Eaters and Emperor's Children respectively, yes. For everyone else they're still elites.
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>>54975158
God I miss when Emperor's Children Terminators were allowed to take Sonic weaponry and when Thousand Sons Chosen were units full of Sorcerers.
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So do we know if primaris marines have the gene flaws of their chapter, or have they actually written out the only thing that actually gives space marines so much character?
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Would i be better off running noise marines as EC and putting them in a rhino or as renegade footsloggers?
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>>54974631
Where are you getting the idea that nurgle daemons are "metaphorical" cultivators of disease? They have a literal goddamn garden of plagues in the warp, and this guy is the groundskeeper.

Also, the daemon snail eats nurglings, since the little nurgling above his head is supposed to be a carrot on a stick to make him go forward.
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>>54975254
What is the rest of your army and whats their battlefield Role
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>>54974631
Next thing you'll say that the tallyman doesn't actually count, it's just a metaphor.
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>>54975164
GIFTED, anon, don't you know anything about Blood Ravens lore?
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>>54975273
Army list is still in the planning stages I was thinking running a bunch of noise marines and cultists backed up by predators and deepstriking terminator and raptor squads. I just fear my noise marines wont get in the shooting range before the enemy shoots them to bits.
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>>54975075
They've scaled up regular marines at least twice since I started, I also don't understand why yet another scale bump required setting the fluff on fire.
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>>54975208
I'm willing to bet all the cult legions will eventually get a codex. Likely starting with World Eaters next year, then if we get it it's inavitable that Emperor's Children will get one too.
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>>54974818
The profile roll happens when you pick a unit of Oblits to shoot with, which is a separate step that happens before you pick targets. There's no need for it to be in the FAQ.
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>>54974415
And you keep goofy helmets for chaplains. With some green stuff you can make them look really good.
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What would it take to fix Possessed?
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>>54975310
The tally man doesn't actually count, its just a metaphor
>na-Nani!?!
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>>54975263
Daemons are meant to be otherworldly horrors, they're not meant to be silly. Their joviality is supposed to be creapy. It's too silly, I'd call that model clownish but people are acutally scared of clowns.

>>54975310
nothing wrong with tallyman
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>>54975398
D3+1 attacks. That's it. Hell, I'd probably take them if they just had a flat 2 attacks rather than D3.
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>>54973941
I feel like they are pressing too hard to make nurgle the "funny god" the snail thing looks like it was pulled right out of fucking wonderland, that said it's at least not bland and has a lot of character to it.
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>>54974422
Thank you man, ill be considering that, but i was tempet to do the big blob to use the new stratagem that replenish them

>>54974812
Im sorry but im a filthy wetback and could only aford one combi flamer and had to copy the rest of them, ill post results of how they turned up to be
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>>54973812
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>>54975417
They'd still be just worse Berzerkers.
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>>54975433

except 2W each
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SOMEBODY PAINT IT LIKE THIS PLEASE
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>>54975096
It's red. It's Blood Ravens.
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FEED ME SEYMOUR
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Hey guys. Thinking of building a Demons of Tzeentch army. Would appreciate some feedback on this list.

HQ
Lord of Change
Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot
Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot

Troops
20x Pink Horrors
20x Pink Horrors
20x Pink Horrors

Elites
3x Flamers of Tzeentch
3x Flamers of Tzeentch

Fast Attack
3x Screamers of Tzeentch
3x Screamers of Tzeentch

Heavy Support
Burning Chariot
Burning Chariot

Total 1895 with eqipment

This should leave me points for either some blue horrors or to summon a MSU of a lot of different units
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40k sneaker when?
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>>54974400
Where is she or us she just the one from that one box game?
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>>54974219
>Yeah! I want old GOAT models.
i have 4 of those and 3 of the old chaos ones as well.

my opponents were like .. doredo dreads are bigger than that! .. i showed him the pics that names them. lol
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>>54974305
>doesn't shop in sunglasses.
you blew it..
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>>54974367
so would tourneys flip their shit if i tried using that as a herlad of tzench?
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>>54975468
I assume she is just in the Blight Wars box. Just like the other female Sigmarine is in Shadow Spire box.
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>>54975531
No. Not at all/
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So I'm trying to build an ork list that isn't just HUNNERS A BOYZ, while also being reasonably affordable to buy.

Are trukkboyz decent? 12 boys, a Power Klaw nob and one heavy weapon just feels really flimsy.
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>>54975468
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>>54974954
>green armor
Anon.... I.....
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Played a game against Tzeentch/TS daemons using this week's FoK mission.
Ended with a bunch of my boys on 1 objective while daemons grabbed 2 on the last turn.
Deathstrike is arse, use Manticore instead.
Enginseers are based for restoring wounds above to degradation threshold.
Brimstone mobs are a bastard to get rid of without massed S4.
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>>54975462
kek
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>>54974954
you're a spastic harry
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>>54975398
Give them another wound
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>>54975570
What does AOS have to do with /40KG/?

Don't worry, I know you're autistic, I'll explain before you try and answer a Rhetorical Question.

You're enough of a retard to consistently post old AOS news, in the 40k thread instead of the AOS thread.
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>>54975337
You want to run them in Units of 10 unless youre trying to fill a detachment which they now do a better job off if you take them as EC. and to make better use of the shoot Twice stratagem.

For a unit of 10 a Rhino is decent Protection but they shouldnt to be in it for more than a turn most of the time. Also keep in mind that they get to shoot again when they die.

Also consider that even tho they have good dakka, they have 2 attacks base and arent Bad in Assault, unless theyre fighting something that is dedicated Assault like Zerkers or Thunderwolves.

You want to be charging the big Unit of Guardsmen or even normal Marines As you get to fight first in your phase and the enemies Phase too.

If youre scared of them getting shot too early, run two units of 10 and a Distraction Melee Dreadnought that should secure atleast one Unit functional
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>>54975408
Honestly the whole thing gives me an uncanny valley vibe, the man like face of the snail, the fact that the nurgling is happy to be used as bait. It's oozing with an unnatural joy in what it's own messed up existance is. Creeps me out just fine
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>>54975611
where's this from?
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>>54975632
>>54975468 asked for the figure.
>>54974400 said he's going to use her for a conversion.

Eat a dick.
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>>54975408
>A grinning bloated corpse engaging you in jovial conversation as he disembowels you with his plague encrusted shears is too silly

I think you might might just have shit taste.
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>>54975573
Not him but I see green too, what gives?
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>>54975632
Old? She's not old news though. She was announced with the Grand Cultivator, lad. The other female one was announced awhile ago though. Also fuck off, she's a great conversion chance. Just paint it black, put some seals and some different icongraphy, put a power sword and boltgun and ta-da.
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>>54975632
anon, I think the person showing the most symptoms of autism is you right now
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>secutarii rules never
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>>54975570
Well I see a custodies conversion, they don't use gene seed, so it's pretty valid.

My raging boner for post human supersoldiers will be satisfied at last
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>>54975666
The Dawn of War comic they are making because of the new game. Vol 2 of 4 (i think it's 4) just came out.
http://viewcomic.com/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-002-2017/
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>>54975688
They just want to bait us by implying that this Death Guard rhino would or should NOT be green.

Pffffft...... Pathetic faggots, right?
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>>54975710
nigger please
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>>54975632
>gets angry at things not being in their 'proper place'
>screeches at people having 'wrong fun'
>screeches at things being 'posted at the wrong time'

Anon...I....
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>>54973774
ANIKIII
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>>54975422
Its the paint scheme more than anything I think. With a proper gritty scheme I'm sure people can increase the fucked up value, at least a few notches.
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>>54975738
I want my shieldboiis to have rules for 8th anon
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>>54975737
The rhino is red, the marine armor is green
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First boy for my potential Goff Ork army.
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>>54975710
They should come out in Fires of Cyraxis

So yeah never
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>>54975622
They already have 2.
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>>54975786
>Fires of Cyraxis
>come out

My sides !
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>>54975751
i've been waiting for my thallax to show up as well.
at least we'll have a skit boss in the form of shield boss
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>>54975750
I would personally add some tyrants bits to the mouth, could use some gribbly elements, make the sheers into one big scyth, keeps the motif while dialing back the goofiness a knotch,
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>>54975786
>Fires of Cyraxis
My dark mechanicus slowly weep.
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>>54975763
FUCKIN LIAR!!!
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>>54975710
Considering the broken bullshit rules they had in 7th, I suppose this is penance.
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>>54975459
Probably about as solid as you can do with a mono-Tzeentch army currently, though you're likely going to struggle against vehicles. Consider swapping a Herald for The Changeling and having him hang around the horrors. He'll up their survivability considerably and act as a decent deterrent/counter-charge for melee characters going after your horrors. A demon prince is also never a bad choice either if you want the reroll to hits and extra melee.
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>>54975826
Nope that's what I'm seeing, a red tank and a dude in green armor
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>>54975732
That's some good shit right there.
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>>54975800
Did I stutter? Another wound for their buff
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>>54975784
I don't like the cloth, but the rest of the paintjob looks really great.
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>>54975807
The shears are awesome where they are. The only thing I'd change is to get rid of the fucking nose. It looks like a Studio Ghibli character right now.
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>>54973941
Why does Nurgle need a gardner?

Isn't the the God of Death and disease?

Gardens are the antithesis of that.
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>>54975841
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>>54975873
Nurgle has always had a garden. This is day 1 shit.
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>>54975844
Now THAT is a way to go out. With a explosive gang,bang
>>
the reason why they're taking so long to make plastic sisters of battle is because they're going to retcon the sisters into being female marines. screencap this
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>>54974029
Barca dembele or BvB Dembele?
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>>54975873
How else is he going to impress Isha?
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>>54975863
>3 Wound Possessed
You know, he was giving you the benefit of the doubt. You could have just acted clueless. Instead you admitted to be a retard who thinks Possessedlets should have more wounds than Terminators

Bitch.
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>>54975836
Thanks man. I considered the changeling, i actually still have the points to summon him if needs be. He'd be pretty sick. Yeah a masses vehicle army would suck for me but the meta in my LGS is fairly mixed so i can take some losses if it comes to it
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>>54975844
Why are the banshees wearing thongs?
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>>54975894
Or it's because there isn't a strong monetary incentive for them to manufacture plastic Sisters because not a lot of people play them.
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>>54975873
>getting Nurgle this wrong
>doesn't know of Garden of Nurgle

You should feel so bad Nurgle could create a Great Unclean One out of it.
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>>54975828
The Peltasts were basically Vanguards + 1, which was absurd given that Vanguard were pretty much the best medium infantry in the game. Now, Vanguard +1 would be firmly in the "Good" category along with the electropriests.
Hoplites IMO were pretty fine given that they don't have the ability to Arvus Drop in 40k, they were basically effective vehicle restriction orders unless your enemy cleared them out.
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>>54975844
What kind of fucking missile is that? A frag missile shouldn't be able to kill a marine, even point blank.
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>>54975887
>>54975922

That's like Khorne having his realm be themed after unicorns and peace though... makes no sense thematically.
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>>54975912
The only good thing about summoning is that you don't have to declare what you intend to summon before rolling. You can always pull the Changeling out on a lower roll to back up the LoC or support the horrors.
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>>54975873
Nurgle is god of disease, rot and decay. In an aspect he is the god of putrescent growth from and dying flesh and so is a god of twisted life as well as a god of death. He has always had a garden.
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>>54975948
We need a new word to describe this level of retardation.
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>>54975917
if they had no incentive then they would just write the sisters off as a faction and just roll them into the inquisition or something
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>>54975948
The whole point is he cultivates disease in a garden, as one would with plants. He cultivates disease to spread death further.
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>>54975952
>>54975912
Additional Exalted Flamers are also a good low cost summon to help deal with vehicles.
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>>54975964
Man, her (or its) knee has seen some shit.
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>>54975964
>you will never have a plaguewaifu
why live
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>>54975547
It's either horde or dread mob as viable lists.
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>>54975462
Already a thing, those shitty zippertopped ones.
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>>54975948

It's a garden of blights and poxes and tentacles etc. Basically a death world on crack.
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>>54975948
Yes, if Nurgle was as you describe him, but he isn't. Read some fluff and stop being so obtuse.
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Hey, new Necron player here. I heard that Heavy Destroyers were a good investment, but I was curious is it better to take a Heavy Destroyer in a unit of regular Destroyers or a unit of just Heavy Destroyers?
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>>54975971
>Not just selling units of 5 for double the price of a tactical squad and keep making money from SoBfags
Do you even GW bruh?
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>>54975980
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>>54975948
No.
It's like if Khorne, the blood god, had literal blood-letters, bloodletters in a white medical garb with a box of leeches and a syringe.
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>>54975948
I think you have the wrong impression of what his Garden is like. We aren't talking rows of fresh smelling daisies here. When he conquered the Realm of life in AoS he corrupted it, he didn't just kill everything.
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>>54976015
>Just a regular chick with green skin and a horn

Not even 7/10
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>>54975873
No. While death is often a side effect of his disease to those unworthy, Nurgles whole thing is everlasting life, thats why all his followers are so fucking tough. Disease, of course, being a form of life. Hense he grows his diseases in his garden as one would grow plants.
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>>54975980
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>>54975948
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>>54974062
Tacs with bolters. Ironclad Dreadnoughts to bust into fortifications. Assault Terminators and Assault Centurions. Vanguard Veterans with Power Swords and Storm Shields to give that pre-Heresy Black Templar flavour. Vindicator to knock down walls and to stop anyone coming through the breach.
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>>54975784
Dont do straight white for the cloth, do Rakarth flesh and seraphim sepia or agrax over it
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>>54975128
Store owner plays a lot of "safe" pop stuff. It feels like a cleaned up version of whatever was on the radio half a year ago but that might just be because it's the only stuff I recognise on the playlists.
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>>54974062
Devastator Cents. 3+ Vindicators. TH/SS Termies. Tacs and Intercessors.
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>>54975867
>>54976105

Gotcha, Thanks for the constructive criticism, genuinely appreciated.
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>>54976051
>Nurgles whole thing is everlasting life

Cycle of life. Death and birth. Death brings life, living things die. Nurgle grants his followers resilience while tormenting them with diseases so they can watch everything they loved die.

Tzeentch is the one with the rebels against the status quo, the ones that want to change the cycle and all that. That's why they're opposites, Nurgle embodies the eternal cycle and desperation of life's futility, while Tzeentch embodies changing the world and fighting the system.
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>>54975948
one of the major themes of nurgle's faction is parodying life and parodying the nature of life.

See circus of nurgle
see the plague bearers being essentially accountants trying to impose will on chaos in representation of their human nature. creating reason where there can be.
the nature of nurgle as a big family in death
the fact that GuOs are practically miniature biospheres, with nurglings, parasites, diseases and what have you living in its decaying bulks
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>>54975710
I feel your pain anon. I was so excited to have a darkmech melee list with the vanguard detachment but now they're gone I'm left with electro priests and sicarians, both too expensive and glass cannon to run as line units.

I'm still converting some vanguard into dark mech hoplites when I finish my slaaneshi dragoon order but I have no idea what to run them as
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>>54974062
Dreadnoughts
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>>54976179
And don't forget the beasts of nurgle.
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>>54976173
Well Nurgle's Broken wheel of life.
Eternal life, eternal decay, false life springing from death that never comes.
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>>54975844
they should have gone for his weapon or hands instead
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>>54974062
Bolters and Vindicators.
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>>54973793
That guy has the worst dice rolling technique I have ever seen. I cringe every time I watch a batrep involving him.
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>>54975934
If the Missile doesnt kill him the multiple stabwounds sure will
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>>54974771
Are you retarded
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Being Martellus is suffering.
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>>54976046
Looks like a fun theme park map.
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>>54976217
You're going to tell me those awesome looking guys with shields are 30k only aren't you
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>>54976299
Not to mention that marine is obviously cheating and using a large blast marker rather than a small one to resolve the frag missile shot.
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>>54976262
>>54975992
>>54975972
Nigga that's not a garden. That's a horrific plane of existence. It can be many things, but its not a garden.

Gardens are for like, trees and plants and pleasant things.
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>>54976321
That boarding shield came from the badab war, 30k breachers have different (and imo less nice shield)
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>>54976309
Nobody respects you
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>>54975934
Um excuse you, D6 S4 hits vs T4 has a perfectly good chance to kill him.
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>>54976309
Don't trust the new guy
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>>54976359
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>>54976346
Do they still have 8th rules?
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Can anyone post the stats and rules for the freaking greater blight drone from forge world??? I don't know how they expect anyone to buy the damn model if you have no idea if they are good or not????
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>>54976320
Pretty much
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>>54976335
>laughing cheetah.jpg
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>>54976335
A garden is just an enclosed area. In this garden, he cultivates disease. Think of it almost like a dark parody of what a garden is to you, if that helps.
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>>54976359
What is Phlogiston
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>>54974071
It really does look shitty and cartoony compared to maggoths.
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>>54976071
I wonder what her cunt smells like
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>>54976335
I can see you haven't been to botanical garden, with a rafflesia.

Twisting shit is what chaos do.
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>>54976371
>still
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>>54976428
You know what he means you putz
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>>54976406
>What is Phlogiston
>The phlogiston theory is a superseded scientific theory that postulated that a fire-like element called phlogiston is contained within combustible bodies and released during combustion
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Building an all-comers list of Ultramarines Primaris
Plasma inceptors or bolter inceptors?
Just trying to think about the pros and cons.
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>>54976359
Oh sure, don't let the Techmarine drive. It's not like he knows everything about the operation of every vehicle in your arsenal and you're just some cunt who spends most of your time posing dramatically and wasting precious ammo.

Fuck these new guys, I feel sorry for Martellus, he is the MVP of the DoW2 squad, goes down with the ship and then spends years killing absolutely everything that comes close and then immediately joins up again when found. Also, only way he goes traitor is if you never get any corruption points on anyone, fucker KNOWS you're using a guide and tries to stop you.
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>>54973774

He looks like a bad dude. I bet he only shows up for class 4-5 days out of the week.
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>>54976442
Okay for a second I thought it was some space-drug they feed marines to be more obedient/passive
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>>54976359
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>>54976371
Boarding shields still appear at 4pts a piece in the new codex.
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>>54975844
lol he is crying marines are confirmed fags
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>>54976466
Pretty much this >>54976369
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>>54976497
>he doesn't even join up with the machine spirit
>doesn't wear a helmet with specialised augurs
>bet he doesn't even know the right incantations to calm the machine spirit
>wish I was at home tending to the machines
>my servo-arm hurts
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>>54976515
he's sad he wont get to kill more Eldar
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>>54974704
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Rak%27Gol

these dudes came to my mind, although they have 8 limbs.
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>>54976533
That statement is almost as embarrassing as 7th edition ork players saying how if they win they win and how if they lose they win because they got to fight.
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>>54976548
it's a third edition quote
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Is there a way to make Chosen Viable as Close-Combat unit?
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will rubric dreadnoughts be in the thousand sons codex
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>>54976515
i don't seen any tears there nibba just cross thatching
>>54976548
can confirm >>54976562
ork logic was
>if we win we win
>if we lose we can retreat and come back and win
>if we die, WELL WE HAD A GOOD FIGHT NOW DIDN'T WE LADS?
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Guard players who own a Valkyrie.

When assembling the side bolters the directions show the triggers of the gun separately, but in the next segment the triggers are in the hands that attach to the Guardsman manning it. Are the triggers supposed to be a separate part, or are they just part of the hands like the normal guns in most Guard kits?

Would love it if GW numbered parts or something.
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>>54975784
skin looks pretty fantastic. You can line highlight the black by mixing a few drops of white paint into some black. Make it very subtle, then do it once more with another drop of white paint for a natural looking gradation.
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>>54976528
>He scratched the paint on the landing struts
>Does he know how annoying that is to replace?
>Does he even know where we get it from?
>Last time I heard him praying to the Emperor to help him fly well
>Cunt doesn't even know about the Omnisiaah
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>>54976572
>5 Chosen
>replace all bolt pistols with chainswords
>replace all boltguns with chainswords
>4 attacks per model
>still vastly inferior to Khorne Berzerkers, but it's somethin
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How do you know when you've removed enough of the moldline?
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>>54976631
>moldline
Why are you letting your miniatures get that dirty?
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>>54976631
when you know it wont be visible when paint has been applied
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>>54976584

Likewise, friendly fire isn't a concept that exists to orks. Their thinking goes "If the shot hit something and killed it, good. If another ork got in the way of the shot, it's his own fault for messing up my shot".
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What's the point of Chosen?

3 points more than Havocs for 1 more LD and attack?

Melee options? Why take them when you can take berserkers?
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>>54976660
>if i shot it it's an enemy
>if i missed then it's an ally
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>>54976674
>own 10 Palatine Blades from FW
>cant use them without cucking my army
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>>54976680
literally their logic.
You can see printed in black and white it in deff squadron.
>>54976660
muckin' about
dat's what dat is

>>54976674
i mean they used to have infiltration so they had their own use for suicide metal squads.
even then they are in a weird spot, everything they do is out done by other more specialized units
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>>54976631
When it disappears
Don't scrape so hard you get grooves in the flush plastic
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>>54976674
Their only real use is if you want a mix of special weapons and melee weapons. Like a team of them with three meltas and three guys with power axes/double claws for cracking open transports and murdering what's inside.

Or prehaps four guys with power mauls and chain swords to wipe out a squad of chaff and then two flamers to discourge counter charges.
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>>54976572
World Eaters with all Power Fist, pretty effective 140 pt anti vehicle melee unit.
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Rules Question:

A unit deep strikes or moves in a tight group between 3 characters and a vehicle. Part of the unit is closest to one character, part of the unit is closer to another character, part of the unit is closer to the vehicle.

Does the unit have to;

A) Shoot the vehicle as it's the closest non character unit to the ENTIRE unit
B) Split fire depending on what's closest to each individual model
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>>54976674
I don't see why they didn't get gun+melee weapon like company veterans.
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>>54976674

Plastic proxy option for 30k Gal Vorbrak
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>>54976902
But possessed are decent now, so no need.
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What makes Tomb Blades bad? They are fairy mobile, can have a 3+, and can have double Tesla Carbines
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>>54976926
Are they? What changed?
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>>54976976

Extra wound, AP-2 melee attacks, better buffs.
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>>54976859
My interpretation of it is that if the vehicle is the closest unit to any single member of the squad (So if the vehicle was 3" from one guy, and the nearest character was 4" from another guy) then you must target the whole unit at the vehicle.

If they are equidistant then......roll for it, cus that's always fun.
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>>54976976
m7 2w d3 s6 ap-2 attacks.
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>Honour Guard
>Ld9

>Sanguinary Guard
>Ld8

I thought they were the BA equiv of Honour Guard? Also, 12" Assault 2 is just, you know, Rapid Fire Bolt Rifle. Would prefer it was a Pistol 2 desu, fluff says they shoot it in combat and it's specifically on their wrists for this reason.
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>>54976938
Cost. They're more than double the cost of an immortal without good payback. That being said, I usually take a unit to grab objectives
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>>54975208
We didn't deserve the 3.5 dex
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>>54976938
Comparing 1 Tomb Blade to 2 Immortals.
Pros:
T5
14"M
Fly
Cons:
48 versus 34 points
Not Infantry
2W
Maximum Squad Size of 9.
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>>54976938
They're ok but should be carrying blasters, just expensive for the amount of damage they deal.
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>>54977076
Grey knights say the same thing, just ain't gonna happen
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>>54976976
They have 2 wounds now but still have no shooting, and still random d3 attacks at s5/-2/1

Theyre Decent in Melee but you need them to get in range first. With a Rhino for Example.

Theyre pretty much the same as Melee Terminators with a worse save and no deepstrike. for like half their cost.

I feel bad for Chosen, I will never get to field my palatine blades in 40k without feeling bad


>>54977064
Theyre only s6 if theres a Herald of the same god within 6"
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>>54976859
Choose targets on a per model basis, due to split fire.

So only the ones that are actually closest to a character can shoot the character.
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>>54976938
They're super vulnerable to plasma in an army that's already vulnerable to plasma.
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>>54977174
in a meta that spams plasma and rerolls ones
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>>54976451
Bump
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>>54977191
It's what makes me miss old quantum shielding. Having your entire army vulnerable to a single weapon sucks.
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>>54977149
I know how you feel, I use the crimson slaughter "the Ravagers" squad exactly how they are in the lore. Two boltguns, one double claw, one axe, one powerfist and the champion with power maul and bolter.
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>>54975369
I think Emp Children are next just because Khorne got some time in the spotlight with Daemonkin last edition
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>>54977207
But fluffy, as Imperial reports note that plasma weapons have been effective against Necrons.
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>>54977231
Nah, after Nurgle it's back to Tzeentch briefly for their codex and then on to other factions, Eldar I'm guessing.
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>>54977251
I meant "next" as in "sometime in the far future." After all the codexless armies
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>>54977249
fluffy doesn't make good balance.
there's plenty of fluffy necron things that don't have rules. For instance, Crypteks.
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>>54977251
>>54977275

Its inevitable that they cover the Ruinstorm's trek to Armageddon.
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>>54977249
It'd be fine if the monolith wasn't hot garbage so there'd at least be something that made it so taking nothing but plasma was a bad idea.
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So is there anything to differentiate the different hive fleets in terms of their doctrines or choice of units like with other factions or are they just palatte swaps?
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>>54977324
Not yet
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I played my first game in 8th today. It was a 2v2 with my Orks and Space Marines vs Dark Mechanicus/CSM and Tau, and boy there is nothing more satisfying than jumping 30 boyz 9" from something squishy. Those poor mech boyz got properly krumped.
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Looking for a good 2000 pt salamander list...any competitive ideas that use cc& lots of melty things?
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>friend asks how to deal with tanks as WE
>tell him to use havocs
>nah man that's not fluffy!
This melee only meme needs to end
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>>54977442
Tell your buddy to use hellbrutes
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>>54977424
>here is nothing more satisfying than jumping 30 boyz 9" from something squishy.
Sure there is.
Failing the charge, seeing your opponent move up and then rolling snake-eyes and failing his charge.
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>>54974954
Are you by chance colorblind anon?
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>>54977488
>Failing the charge, seeing your opponent move up and then rolling snake-eyes and failing his charge.
Jesus Christ
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>>54977442
Show him this
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>>54977442
Tell him to get a dog if he wants fluffy! WAAC 4 LYFE NIGGA!!
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>>54977442
Lord of Skulls
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>>54977162

Ok, that's how we played it--since it specifies model.
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>>54977521
I do wonder, does he sometimes remove his helmet, look at how the horns are bigger than his torso, and start to contemplate his choice of armour?
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>>54977512
>>54977488
Oh yeah...
Fuck 7th ed. charge rules.
Nothing like having 2 Khorne lords staring at each other because there's a shrub next to their Chaos Spawn escorts
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2000 pt game today. Knights and Guard vs Scions

>Turn 3, Knight goes nova, whips out most of the guard, and scions.
>Next knight goes nova, from the first knight.
>Kills everything else.

All that is left is a handful of infantry on both sides. Best turn of events I have seen in years.
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>>54977442
>not fluffy

wut?
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>>54977554
He can't take it off. When he goes through a door he usually gets stuck, which leads to a shooting spree until the doorway is big enough for this ridiculous headdress to fit through.
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>>54977512
More like
>roll snake eyes for the charge
>allowed to reroll my charge
>roll snake eyes AGAIN
Happened to me today.
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>>54977545
Does anyone here even use a Lord of Skulls? I've never seen one on the table. I know they got a major price cut in the codex, but they seem way too expensive to reasonably work into an army.
>>
>>54977428
Brayarth in a twin melta storm raven with 10 double melta tacs, LR Achilles, fill the rest with flamer tacs in transports.
>>
new Ork player here, how do I actually get my units into melee without having them be butchered by shooting? I've played a couple games so far and I always seem to lose like half of my army by turn 3 or 4. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>54977597
I have a friend with 3
I've asked him why, he just shrugs and says he thinks they're cool
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>>54977613
>not having 8
Vomit.
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>>54977612
30 squad units of boys, use a weird boy or two, and use them to jump them across the board.

Also with orks, its about numbers, so if you want to run a horde army, you need to go 100% horde.

if you want to use armor, you need to use as much armor as possible, you can't do a little of one, and then the other.
>>
>>54977597
LoS is great now, 600 points and it can use daemonforge and can get heretic astartes rerolls and spells. They make knights look like crap in comparison.
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>>54977612

Orks have two options for getting to melee.

>Go faster
>Go expendable

Either take MORE of whatever you want to get to melee, or find a way of making that unit cheaper.

Basically, there are two setups for boyz: 12 boyz in a trukk, or 30 boyz on foot.
>>
>>54977612

You can use the jump psychic power

Or you haven't brought enough boyz
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>>54977581
I temember blood bowl.
2 Bull centaurs failed a go for it on a 1, failed their re-rolls, both rolled broken neck on injury, apothecary re-roll... still broken necks
>>
>>54977677
Pretty sure you can only have 1 Apothecary roll a game unless you buy a specific one use.

Also I can't remember what Go For It stat is used, Agility right? They have low Agility.
>>
>>54977612
Either teleport or rush with fast units and gorce the opponent to make a unpleasant choice.
>>
>>54977643
>>54977658
I've tried using the mechanized/boyz in a trukk setup, and in my experience what happens is that the trukks get melted about halfway down the table the boyz get mowed down by rapid fire.

I'm not really convinced the 30 boyz on foot set up would work either, they just seem like massive heavy bolter/tesla/etc magnets.

I hadn't looked at the weirdboy, I'll give that a try in my next game.
>>
>>54977512
>Goodbye 7th ed. Apoc Game
>Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with 3++ Invul Robes
>Perils boxcars
>Take a wound result
>roll a 2 for save, can't reroll it.
>Have to take a Ld test or be sucked into warp by the Robes
>Box Cars

Goodbye 350pts, killed by its own hubris
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>>54977701
Nah go for it is just failed on a 1.
And yeah had my own plus a event apothecary.
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>>54977701
Go for it is on passes on anything but a 1.
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>>54977580
That's why the rest of them are berzerkers. It saves on ammo to just cut the doorways til they're big enough.
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>>54976582
HA HA HA NO! TAKE YOUR FLESHY HELLBRUTE AND YOU LIKE IT!

seriously though, I want a psychic dread so badly.
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>>54977790
>>54977772
Long time since I played. I just want my Amazons and Lizardmen.
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>>54977738
Generally speaking, Mek boys should be able to get an easy turn two charge off. If you use trukk boys, run as many as you can.

The weird boy is what makes running 30 strong units of boys crazy.

Having a solid chance of turn one charge with 30 boys is fucking brutal.
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>>54977810
>>54976582
[laughing Blood Angels]
[laughing Grey Knights]
>>
Those CSM artefacts are pretty underwhelming, I started this edition. Is this normal or are they not supposed to make a big diffrence?
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>>54977810
Sorceror Dreads would be hype.
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>>54977848
>Those CSM artefacts are pretty underwhelming
??????

What the hell are you on about?
>>
>>54977848
Artefacts took a solid step back.
Less character defining.
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>>54977874
I mean, they ARE good. It's just that I expected something else, more defensive stuff like fleshmetal exoskeleton? Or anything shooty with more than 6" range?
I made my first codex list today and I went AL so I tried to go more shooty than stabby.
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>>54976674
Chosen being complete shit edition after edition is really starting to chap my ass.

Just fucking give them two wounds, special daemon weapons and cost them appropriately as well as giving them a kit finally and they'd be golden.
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Do you think hazard stripes on the right shoulder and left leg would look good with this scheme?

I tried to do it up in paint but I just couldn't get it to look good.
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>>54977840
>Generally speaking, Mek boys should be able to get an easy turn two charge off.
I don't really see that. My math gives them a threat range of around 27-30". Which I guess would be fine if the enemy set up their dudes at the edge or their deployment zone and/or moved towards me, but so far none of my opponents have been that cooperative.
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>>54978145
I think it would but the Gold and Yellow probably clash with each other
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>>54978145
Shoulder OR Leg

It'll be way to busy with both
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>>54974549
>>
Bikers with melta or plasma?
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>>54978335
Plasma and always overcharge them. Specially at night.
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>>54978375
>>54978375
>>54978375
new
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Showed up super late to Terrain Day but it was still super chill. Lots of cool additions for the store tables
>>
>>54977848
???

There are literally 3 factions that have artifacts at all.

CSM are among them.

In previous editions multiple factions had 0 playable artifacts. There are like 5 good artifacts in the book what the fuck are you smoking.
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>>54975443
JUST COUNTS AS
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>>54974062
Thunderfire cannons, whirlwinds
>>
>>54973736
Fucking love that new Nurgle Herald.

Just wish that GW knew how to sculpt wood and not just Tim Burton malarky.
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>>54973774
How many motherfuckers gonna make him a kimono for full Plague Ronin?
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>>54974172
>give it a non-cartoony paintjob

After clipping off all of the awful, extaneous CADwank, one hopes.
That way, maybe it will appear vaguely menacing instead of like an extra from Real Monsters.
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>>54974560
>blended scotch

[shudders]
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>>54974255
Not familiar with Little Shop of Horrors, eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQJagD96X8U
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>>54975105
>Because people wanted marines to actually play like marines in lore as well.

Marines in lore have access to Meltaguns.
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>>54975611
Wait, is that supposed to be Cyrus?
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>>54976390
>people only buy models that win
>people

Sure is 40kg in here. Oh, wait ...
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>>54979264
Ye
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