DEADLANDS thread

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Friend of mine has played as a blessed, has anybody played as a voodoo priest/priestess? How was it?

>>54962911

I definitely prefer the base Blessed. Not that Voodoo was outright bad or anything.

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>>54964498
Interesting, any particular reason why? They share many of the same spells.

>>54965003

More of a fan of brimstone and hellfire than who do voodoo I guess.

Sell me on Deadlands, anons.

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>>54965139

There's a guy thats going to be running a roll20 game of Reloaded (aka: Savage Worlds version) if you wanna try it.

Other than that, it's the wild west with some cthulhu shit going on, and most of the weird shit is taken from popular fiction you know and, unlike most games, tends to function pretty close to that fiction. It's pulpy all around.

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>>54965139
It's wild west, but with supernatural and steampunk elements. It puts a lot of power in the players hands especially if you're harrowed. (So much of a badass you come back from the dead) The system gives you a lot of freedom too, I feel.

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>>54965282


Ah, there's my cue. Thanks for quick ad anon.

I am setting up to run Deadlands (Looking like Monday or Wednesday nights burgertime)

The system's great for pulp action.

Setting is anachronistic wild west, with mad science, kung fu masters, and gamble wizards all vying for fortune and glory. Supports anything from Hellblazer-style supernatural mysteries, to hijinx laden wacky steam wagon races across the salt flats of Utah.

I definitely recommend giving one of the core books a read if Westerns, Alternate History, or Pulp Horror are your jams.

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Right, here's the link to the roll20 game if anyone's interested.

Already have 3 signed up, I could run 3 more, but if more sign up, we could work out a rotation.

https://app.roll20.net/join/2489025/90MmWA

>>54966486
Houngan player here, heck, if we get enough people I wouldn't mind running another Reloaded game, or Noir.

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Stop posting the same pics every thread guys holy shit. Do better, okay? Fucking do better.

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>>54971611

>>54966456
>>54966486
What day?
Voice / Text?
We need more info for this sorta thing, man.

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>>54971685
I'm not the GM or even playing in that game but I opened the roll20 link he posted, they are discussing times in a campaign thread there. Ya dingbat.

>>54971611

Post more, man. Most of us don't have a very large offering of Western stuff.

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>>54971830
I'm dumpin as fast as I can matey. I posted a google drive link to my deadlands resources in the last thread if you wanna look for that. I don't know why you guys wouldn't have a large offering, there are literally actual photographs, thousands of them.

>>54971890
>there are literally actual photographs, thousands of them.

Honestly, I dislike using actual photo's for characters. Consider it a remnant of online chat play, where everyone keeps using fucking supermodels or Dr. Who as their pictures. Not a strike against you, more of a personal issue for myself because a lot of chat based games have been incredibly shit to the point it's ruined a lot of things for me in other games.

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>>54971917
I've only ever played online pretty much, mostly as a GM. If anyone recognizes the picture, it isn't allowed. I've had dumb players try that shit with me too. Or the guy who shows up with an elf rogue for D&D and his picture is in the top 5 image results for elf fucking rogue. That said I'd rather any of the above than the worst in char pic I've ever seen, pic related. He had it "commissioned" by a brony on deviantart I think.

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>>54971782
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>>54972279
I use token tool to make entire gangs for Roll20.

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>>54972301
fuck forgot pic

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>>54965033
>who do voodoo
Do what?

>>54974819

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS_Shu8y0sI

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>>54974912
Who do you voodoo bitch?

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>>54976158
>Lottie

Oh, theres a whole lotty her alright.

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>>54977455

This isn't necessarily for deadlands, but does anyone know about the major and distinctive differences between indian tribes popular in westerns? I've been combing for some myself but it's hard to know the fine differences. I want to make a few factions based on indian tribes but I'm not sure what aspects to focus on. I see things like ones that are agriculture centric, hunters/gatherers, nomads who follows buffalo trails, etc. That's the kind of easy to pick out differences I'm interested in. Is there anywhere i can read about this kind of thing in an easy to grasp format?

>>54977490
Also, the other thing is I'm not sure what tribes were the ones westerns tended to focus on, either in media or historically. I know stuff like Navajo but I'm not exactly sure what ones we most associate with the wild west.

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>>54975487

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONOe7t7Qm8Y

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>>54977490
Apaches, Comanches - The evil sons of bitches who scalp settlers.

Sioux - Buffalo-hunting mystical honest injuns. Good guys who get screwed over and over.
Dances With Wolves type shit.

Cree - Like the Sioux, but in Canada, so were genocided more politely and apologetically.

These are of course only Hollywood Indians. Real life tribes were incredibly diverse, local, and as complicated as any other group of people trying to find a place for themselves while holding on to their culture in an increasingly hostile world.

>>54977782
I know there's many many different tribes which has made it difficult to try and pin down the most important and and major differences, since I don't want hundreds or whatever different tribes, so I want to focus on the main things that differentiated them. I do want to focus on the "Hollywood Indians" since they're the ones most people will be able to recognize, so I want all the names that people know like Sioux, Apaches, etc. But I do want to make sure I'm not pinning, say, Apaches as the mystic types, or the apaches as the evil warriors. I want to make sure that if I'm boiling down and trivializing the tribes to their main features that I'm at least getting the right stereotypes.

This is a good start and is very much what I was looking for. Is there anywhere I could read up on this kind of thing in an easy to grasp way? I tried looking this stuff up myself but there's so many different tribes and so much information it's hard to differentiate the information I'm interested in.

>>54978013
Don't worry about it. It never bothered Hollywood to make shit up on the spot, it shouldn't bother you. Have an old fart on hand to peer at an incoming warband and yell "hold yer fire! Them's [random Indian tribe-sounding noun, like Crow or Blackfoot] markins, they's the good injuns round these parts"

>>54978130
It's mostly an issue of making sure I get the languages right. The tribes wouldn't actually be the real ones, but I want to make sure I get the languages tied to the correct "archetype" right and also just that I have the right "types" in general. Another useful thing would just be knowing how the tribes were differentiated. I found a general list (nomadic buffalo followers, agri based, hunters/gatherers, etc.) but I think I'd like a few more differences to focus on.

>>54978254
If this is for a game, relax your autism a bit, no one is going to care.

If this is for a novel or something, do a little more reading and a lot less asking 4chan.

But as to your question, face paint and feather arrangement. Specifics either don't matter or are too important - see above.

>>54978343
It is for a game, just not deadlands. I'm just interested in making the world cool but since a core concept is gonna be cowboys versus indians (and old v new, tradition v progress, etc.) i want to be careful about how I do indians since just having indians without much thought can seem racist or insensitive or whatever and, more importantly to me, shallow.

>>54978440
>just having indians without much thought can seem racist or insensitive or whatever

Old movies didn't give a shit, and neither should you, because unless one of your players is part of a tribe or some kind of retard screaming about how you're oppressing every culture by not representing shit 100% factually or something, thats probably the only kind of indians they know of.

>>54978440
There's a Deadlands book about the Indian tribes if that helps any. Has some bits that talk about their languages and spirit animals and whatnot.

>>54978642
Oh I made sure that my emphasis wasn't necessarily on appearing insensitive, but I think it's interesting that indian tribes lived different lifestyles and capturing the essence of the important types of lifestyles (since the minutia is irrelevant as said) is important I think. It's funny because I actually have one tribe set conceptually already, but they aren't based on an actual indian tribe, they're basically just bad medicine men/skinwalkers exiled from each tribe and coalesced into their own.

>>54978690
This sounds like it'd be useful, I'll look for it.

So, how valuable do you think a young child with the uncanny ability to know where every train in the Americas is, as well as exactly what is on it (in terms of tonnage and value only)?
The rail wars is already won, so that limits the usefulness of it some, but I'd imagine most factions would still get some use of of them.

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>>54979431

Incredibly valuable to the point everyone would want him dead or to exploit the hell outta him.

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>>54979431
Valuable enough for rail barons, or possibly just a bunch of bandits with maybe a huckster as their leader. Stories have been brewing about their uncanny ability to avoid patrols and slip in with minimal bloodshed. Huge bounty set up by a shadowy organization. (Maybe what's left of all the rail barons uniting in secret against a common enemy) You play the kid like the forecaster in fallout new vegas.

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Anybody have any appropriate music suggestions? Obviously Ennio Morricone, you guys got me watching Deadman so I'm definitely using that soundtrack, I have the ravenous soundtrack as well. Any recommendations?

>>54980607

https://youtu.be/UrDV6VksSRU

>>54980607
Not necessarily a recommendation, more like a tangentially related complaint, but Im very sad the Boktai series doesnt have any fans big enough to do upscaled remixes of the games' OSTs. They would be really good for this.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nA201ajhevk

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>>54980607

I usually mix in some postmodern jukebox and vitamin string quartet as well Morricone and all manner of proper classical composers. The Beast and the Harlot comes across appropriately westerny run through a strings only arrangement.

Then again I'm not super-averse to covers. YouTube also has entire channels dedicated to original mood music you can snag.


Sunday dinner went smashingly well, with player and pc hunger hitting a boiling point right at the height of Grimme's sermon even the deader felt a twinge in his stomach and forced a few rolls down after service.

Likely have more story when I don't have to be up in 7 hours

>>54980607
Are you looking for background music, or inspirationally thematic listening music?

For the former, Borderlands 2 has a surprisingly good ambient assortment. Check out Windshear Waste Ambience, and Badass Crater of Badassitude Ambience.

For the latter, Murder By Death, Brown Bird and Goodnight, Texas ought to get you sorted.

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I'm building a character, and while I don't need to completely minmax, I want to be able to contribute.

What are the "must-have" edges in the game for different play styles? Like, a rifleman with pistol backup probably wants Marksman, at least, plus... what?

>>54993464
Should probably let us know which edition you're playing too.

>>54993464

Edition, and I guess, depends what you want to do really. Give us more info Anon.

>>54993464
Well, you have to take Curmudgeon, and at least 8 points in Faith, so you can take Mucho' Faitho'.
That's going to cost you at least 4 talent points, so you are best of making your character a Wampum Spender, from Canada, because they have the best talent to points ratio.

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>>54993965
Reloaded, which I assumed you'd get from the inclusion of edges, and also because it ought to be the assumed default.

Let's start simple, with a basic gunslinger. Are there any edges I'd be an idiot not to take?

>>54994320
Oho, I see your game. You're just trying to trick us into playing with the Canadian expansion so you can do a Toronto Shuffle or something like that. Well piss on that, we play by proper Islington rules here.

>>54965139
See >>54965323

If that strikes your fancy but you want a bit of a different setting there is noir, post-apocalyptic, and sci-fi versions of Deadlands with the first being my favorite. Desperate people in an impoverished land trying to just get by while dark whispers call out to them from shady corner hoping to consume, or worse yet, empower the poor saps.

>>54994760

I like Trademark Weapon, since hitting more often is always a good idea in any sort of game, but that requires you to shortchange some stats a bit normally at chargen.

>>54994760
It depends entirely on what exactly you want in a character.
If you want to be a duelist, Duelist and Quick Draw are great, if you want to be a Sharpshooter, Steady Hands and Marksman are fantastic, if you want to be a Two Gun Pistolero, Two-Fisted is a must.
If you tell us your actual character idea, then we can give you advice, otherwise we might as well copy and paste the whole Edges section for you.

More important than almost any Edge is Skills. Any Savage Worlds character, unless they have a really, really good reason not to, should have at least a d4 in Notice, Fighting, and Stealth.

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These are the best fucking threads.

Never even heard of this setting, but it sounds awesome. Any good starting points? Best edition, where to find the books etc?

>>54994999
That sorta answers my question, actually. There isn't a single edge that everyone HAS to take, the way that 4e, say, had a bundle of mandatory feats.

>>55001152
Reloaded is the current and recommended edition. Classic is easier to pirate but is a little clunkier. There's also an aborted d20 variant that people wisely did not stick with for very long.

Book links are in Da Archive.

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>>55001152
The newest edition, Reloaded, uses Savage Worlds. So you only need 3 books, the core Savage Worlds rulebook, the Deadlands player's Handbook, and the Marshal's handbook, and they each cost less then $20.

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>>54980607
Ghoultown basically IS Deadlands, the Music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yywGI1H_oyM

Howdy Y'all,
I reckon i need saddle sore, but I'm confounded on this series of Tubes.
I would be mighty thankful for any leads to an archive of Books.

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>>55000871

Yeah, I'm enjoying them. I wish they were a bit more active, but maybe the threads will drum up interest.

>>55001152

Savage Worlds Deluxe Explorers Edition and the 2 Deadlands books for it (Players Guide, and Marshal's Handbook if you want to GM) is the best starting point. Faster and more refined than the original edition, and it's also the current edition of the game. You can easily get all the books for under $50 on Amazon.

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>>55004955

Check the archives, might still be something in there.

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I feel like Deadlands is the kind of game that benefits from that kind of passive larping. I want to buy a few of those real metal replica guns. Adds tension when you can feel the weight of your piece instead of just imagining it. I also have /k/ levels of gun love though...

>>55011527
>passive LARPing

I dunno, swinging even fake guns around might get your ass shot in the US these days.

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Any of you boys ever run a session of Noir? If so how did it turn out?

>>55014434

Never heard about it until recently, but it sounds interesting. I might pick it up at some point.

>>54983011
That stroganoff? Looks good.

>>55014716
I ran a one shot because I had just gotten the book and one guy was really enthused by the random generators. It was fun, and slightly more approachable than Deadlands proper.

>>54977412
It's cool to think that tons of old West guys made the same joke you did 100 yrs ago

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>>55023068

>>55021344
>and slightly more approachable than Deadlands proper

How so?

>>55025254
Noir is more well known than Wild West.
Cars and Urban Grit are easier for some people to understand than horses and rural grit.

How do you guys handle armor in Deadlands classic? I see how the damage reduction works but I mean, the armor examples mostly look more like cover to me, and cover works very differently. What does armor cost, how much does it cover?

>>55028058

I'd say go with what you think works. I personally err more towards leniancy in this case-Maybe a tiny bonus for a really thick, long coat made of tough leathers and the like.

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>>55028145
Do you give penalties for heat or anything like that?

>>55028429

If it makes sense to, it would call for some kind of roll to avoid some exhaustion based penalties, yes. Depends on the area.

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Can I hijack the thread a bit to talk about other savage worlds settings?

Has anyone played a medieval game? Looking at the basic rules, it's a hard trade off between armor and fighting skill. You need fuckhigh strength to wear heavy armor without incurring penalties to fighting, but doing so probably means your fighting is lower anyway, so I guess it evens out?

Are there any specific settings for knights and wizards and shit whose books I should look at?

>>55031243
Hellfrost

Hellfrost is fimbulwinter taking hold in a fantasy setting as the gods try and figure out what happened to the gods of the sun and fire.

>>55031243

Maybe making it a SW general might be a bit more lively, I dunno. What do people think?

>>55031243
Haha I'm about to run one, which turned into two. Also more strength means more melee damage which means mr. armor if he's willing to sacrifice other attributes and skills becomes pretty good.

Hellfrost if by knights you meant vikings with one of the best setting books.

I'm prepared for the turbo savage worlds autist to show up,
nobody mention savage rifts.

>>55029954
>that game
*sigh* What could of been.

>>55032556

What game? Hillbilly's with weapons that need shootin' 'cause they're all evil and shit seems like a Deadlands thing to do.

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Started watching Justified again. Damn that's a good show for some one off quests. Also the characters are amazing, Boyd has a great character arc. Great inspiration for villains and random characters.

What are the different 'factions' in Deadlands?

The Railroads
Bayou Vermillion
Black River
Dixie Rails
Iron Dragon
Union Blue
Wasatch

The Coyote Confederation
The Sioux Nations
Lost Angels
The Mining collective that keeps the Maze from being a complete powder keg?

>>55038007

Texas Rangers
The Agency
Grimme's Flock
Hellstrome
Raven's whatever I forget their name

>>55040429
>Grimme's Flock
>Hellstrome

Wouldn't those just be Lost Angels (at least until several years after the flood) and Wasatch?

>>55040455

I guess, yeah. Though Wasatch for Hellstrome wasn't really much of a thing he focused on, unlike the others. I more of meant his overall control of the city.

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I'm wanting to do a "Clue" house. Essentially that one dark brotherhood quest in Oblivion where you need to kill people in a house and can manipulate them to kill their housemates. I need to find a way to incorporate that into deadlands. It would be like Hateful 8 but with demon possession. Anybody have any ideas on how to do it?

>>55043310

What about those things that steal your skin and wear it?

>>55043567
That's a damn fine idea. Damn fine. Maybe add in a twist that there are more than one of them.

>>55032556
I know right? At least it's still alive and looks like it will actually come out. The concept they have now is cool, but not as cool as the original concept.

>>55044115
What game? It looks like a fallout 4 mod.

>>54962897
Has anyone played this and Through the Breach?

I'm looking for opinions on which they liked better, system and fluff wise, for Weird West stuff.

>>55044510
I have. The card mechanics of through the breach are pretty nifty, but it's too much of a break from the norm for my tastes.

>>55044839
Doesn't Deadlands use card mechanics too? Or is it just for certain classes?

>>55044361
That game started out as Hunt: Horrors of the Gilded Age.
https://youtu.be/0UywKlC-R-k
Then after about 3 years with literally no info. It seemingly became Hunt: Showdown.
https://youtu.be/7wabrGsddWo

>>55045078
Deadlands only uses it as an optional mechanic built into huckster spellcasting. You can cast with power points for the typical result, or bet with satan to save some of your mana, or shoot for an atypical effect.

Through the breach is a diceless gm doesn't "roll" rpg relying entirely on a manipulatable semi-random personal deck of cards. Like I said very nifty. Counting your own cards becomes part of the game. Very involved and non-standard character creation as well. I was only briefly a player a decent while ago so my knowledge on the subject is limited.

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>>55035586
Nice seeing my screenshot posted. Have this.

Is it okay if I make a religious character, or even a preacher, and not have him be a Blessed?

>>55045502
I'd imagine most holy men aren't blessed in the magical sense of the word.

>>55045502
Yes, especially if a reason why comes to light through playing the game.

>>55045344
Deadlands Reloaded uses the cards as an initiative system, they also use them for the western duels. In Reloaded you only need one set of cards, but it's just as important for the Marshall as the dice.

>>55046763
Unless you have Hucksters, in which case at least one more is required if the character likes to Deal with the Devil. I also think it might be wise to have you dueling deck separate from the initiative deck.

>>55046763
Ah yeah, left the initiative out because that's just savage worlds in general nothing special there. Good point about the dueling though.

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>>54962897
Hoards:
>DL
https://mega.nz/#F!318mUAhI!PRBxqMPKsSQNNZDOT0d5uw
>DL: HoE + Lost Colony
https://mega.nz/#F!ahVjnA4a!wTAEOymuEvqxTxL3yLK65g

>>55048582
puu.sh slash xiRZB slash 7b44dd1ec7.pdf Here is Tales O' Terror 1877, missing from the hoards.

>>55048631
Neat, added.
Thanks!

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>>55048820
Least I could do, you already gave me all the other books!

>>55045502

It says outright in the book that Blessed are rare as fuck. So being a holy man who isn't a Jesus Wizard is pretty normal.

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May all your poker chips be blue, stealth age time.

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Lets get into the mood, /dlg/!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLt98WxrYAw

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>>55054128
I think Tremors 4 does a good job showing the learning process on how to kill horrifying monsters.

>>54974819
You do

>>54980607
Blues Saraceno

>>55034038
Hunt: Showdown

What do you guys think is the most important part of a western setting campaign? What kind of tropes do you gotta have, what kind of feel and tone do you think is most iconic, what does the setting need? Just kind of interested in a census from people who love the stuff.

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>>55057728
>What do you guys think is the most important part of a western setting campaign?

Dust, dirt, mesa's, injuns, cattle, dusty towns, tumbleweeds, spittin', whorin', gamblin', shootin', trains, rustlin'

>>55058534
Great list so far, Definitely the kinds of key words I'm looking for.

>>55057728
Revengin'

>>55057728
Reverend Johnson: Now I don't have to tell you good folks what's been happening in our beloved little town. Sheriff murdered, crops burned, stores looted, people stampeded, and cattle raped. The time has come to act, and act fast. I'm leaving.

>>55058627

Pianee, gaslight, horses, gold, stage coach, six shooters

>>55061516
Howard Johnson is right!

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>>55061516
>and cattle raped

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>>55061516
>and cattle raped

>>55061516
>>55060731
>>55061697
Thanks for even more information, also just the kind of stuff I'm looking for.

>>54980607
Some of 2nd South Carolina String Band is extraordinarily good.

Is that roll20 campaign still recruiting?

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Made this map on roll20 and exported to image. Meant to go with the Marshal Handbook adventure "Comin' Round the Mountain" in Deadlands Classic.

>>55064674

I think so, might as well try joining right?

>>55064674
Technically, but no one's heard from the GM in almost a week. Join up, maybe we'll start a new thing?

>>55065252

Worst comes to worst, can anyone else GM?

>>55065486
Houngan here, I'd prefer to play, since I have never had a chance to actually play Savage Worlds, but if need be I will run it.

If I were to run the game, it would be set in the Northwest, focusing on building a community around what would become Aberdeen, Washington.

>>55040429
I've been reading a bunch of the Classic sourcebooks and there's a few other factions with like the Indians and the Chinese. The Sons of Tomorrow, Rattlesnake Clan, Sioux Union (not to be confused with Sioux Nations), Collegium, etc.

>>55066106
I remember there being a faction that was basically the Vatican's super-secret paranormal investigative force. Can't remember the name though.

Probably a stupid question but we're new to playing this and my players have been wondering and I haven't found a clear-cut "Yes" or "No" to it yet in the Classic manuals - is D12 the maximum die type for a trait/aptitude? Or can it be increased to D20? (Obviously this would be ridiculously expensive since d12 is the max you can get at starting, and raising to D20 would cost a staggering 60 bounty points, but my players were still wondering if it's even possible.)

>>55066102

Well, we'll have that as a backup plan I guess. Hopefully the GM was just busy or something.

>>55067104
D12+1, D12+2, etc, but they need custom races to allow for it.

>>55067223
Are there any edges in deadlands that allow that? I feel like there were a few but I can't find any.

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>>55067104
Pg 35 of core (the newer edition I guess) player guide book says: "After reaching a d12 in a Trait, the Trait's value rises in steps of 2. The next highest Trait after d12 is d12+2, then d12+4, and so on, until you end up running into some critters that could give nightmares to your nightmares."

So far the only stuff I've seen rolling d20s is for damage for dynamite and certain creatures.

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>>55070955

Not today, chicken.

>>55072352
What chicken?

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>>55070955
>>55072352

>>55070955
Can someone explain this to me? Used to watch WB cartoons when I was younger but I don't remember this guy.

>>55076471

One of the skits from Animaniacs. One of the weakests one. Non-speaking chicken dresses up and pretends to be a person, one person goes "Hey thats a chicken", everyone else goes "Yer full of it", and then this continues until the chicken somehow ends up losing it's clothes, and then everyone is like "omg that guy is a chicken".

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Anyone ever fought a rattler? How did it go?

>>55076441
https://youtu.be/miomuSGoPzI

Chicken is best.

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I'm looking for 1 person to play in a every other Sunday at 2pm eastern time Deadlands Classic game. Anyone interested?