Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for the First.

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1st for whatever I find in my folders

I'm a new player

Convince me to join your favorite faction with memes

>>54935049
No.

>>54935049
no

gorka- or morkanaut my fellow orkses?

>>54935037
What is this meme

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There any good 40k books out there that have a real bromance?

>>54935057
Kunningly brutal > brutally kunnin.
>>54935032
Those lions are his armor are cute!
>pets lions
>gets head punched off

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>>54935073
>Kunningly Brutal
>Better than Brutally Kunnin
GIT DETECTED

>>54935071
Cain and Jurgun? Tarviz and Garro?

>>54935068
8th ed vehicles have wounds now, Fabius Bile used to have instant death attacks. So before 8th ed dropped some anons concluded that Fabius would be the ultimate titan killer

Do dark reapers really always hit on 3+? Even against supersonic flyers and in the mission that you get a -1 when shooting over 18"?

I really can't find a way to beat them, some guy deploys 12 of them in cover and they fucking destroy anything in the first turn.

Is there any place where the rules are clarified?

>>54935107
"I don't like it therefore the rules must be wrong REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Yes, they always hit on a 3+, even when their BS is lowered to 6+ or 99+ or if they have a -200 modifier.

Have you tried, I dunno, charging them and killing them?

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>>54935107
>Do dark reapers really always hit on 3+? Even against supersonic flyers and in the mission that you get a -1 when shooting over 18"?
Yes
>Is there any place where the rules are clarified?
GW's facebook page and twitter, also FAQs

>>54935134
Fuck that was a mess. Don't know why paragraphs just randomly appeared in there.

>>54935068
Fabius Bile and his instant death cane. When 8e was announced some guy came up with this silly scenario where he brings a unit of Titans to a game, bile hits them, wounds on a 6 since everyone can do that, fails save and titan is killed instantly since they have wounds, then the other two fail battleshock and run away.

Morale is still a little weird. I know it's meant to represent succumbing to wounds, Necrons phasing out, all that nonsense, but that means that Night Lords Raptors put a magical entropy-inducing field on my Skitarii. I WANT that tech.

>>54935087
>not bein so smart at bein brutal it's jes propa kunnin'
yer a grot m8

Why aren't Fortifications more popular? Skyshield Landing Pads and Imperial Bastions look really good for gunline armies.

>>54935150
Americans shudder at putting terrain on their tables and yuros would rather make their own but are too busy dodging rental vehicles.

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>>54935087
>thinks brutally kunnin is best
King of all Grots right here.

>>54935136
>regardless of modifiers... so yes

>>54935150
Price and points.

So, Soulburners or Hellflamers for Hellforged Contemptors? I can't decide which is better for one. Not sure if Soulburners are worth their cost.

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>The coming of a Tyranid hive fleet is preceded by a smothering psychic signal that envelops entire star systems and disrupts all forms of Warp travel and communication. Swallowed up by psychic-static, whole worlds suddenly go deathly silent, giving no clues as to what is unfolding on the surface below, or of what terrors are about to befall. This is the Shadow in the Warp, and it heralds imminent invasion and horror.
>It is unknown if the Shadow in the Warp is created deliberately by the hive fleets, or if it is simply a by-product of the Hive Mind’s innate synaptic control. In any case, the Shadow in the Warp creates fear and panic wherever it falls, instilling a pervasive dread into the minds of a prey world’s defenders, plunging entire planets into misery and despair. For highly psychic races, such as the Eldar, or for luckless psykers caught within this enervating effect, the malaise is magnified tenfold. Should a psyker attempt to use his otherworldly abilities, the cerebral cacophony worsens even further; the psychic sound of a billion alien thoughts scratch at his mind, and unless he is particularly strong-willed he will be pitched into an insanity where he will repeatedly utter phrases in a tongue too alien to properly pronounce.
Just getting into Warhammer recently and I've gotta say I enjoy the over-the-top grimdark stuff in the codexes. As above, everything to do with tyranid invasion just fills me with dread.

(Please work or I give up)

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>>54935049

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NecrOwned!!!

Thoughts?

Night Lords 2000 9CP

Battalion #1
>HQ
Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
Warp Bolter, Sword, Diabolic Strength

Dark Apostle w/ Combi-Bolter

>Troops
Cultists x30 Autoguns and 3 Stubbers
Cultists x20 CCW, 2 Flamers, and a Shotgun

Chaos Marines MoK x10 w/CCWBP, Plasma Pistol, Flamer, Icon of Wrath
Aspiring Champion w/PP+Fist

>Dedicated Transport
Rhino w/Havoc Launcher and Combi-Plasma

Battalion #2
>HQ
Jump Lord w/Claws of the Black Hunt
Jump Sorcerer w/PP and Force Staff (Prescience and Death Hex)

>Troops
Chaos Marines x5 w/Plasma and Combi-Plasma
Chaos Marines x5 w/Plasma and Combi-Plasma
Chaos Marines x5 w/Plasma and Combi-Plasma

>Elites
Termies x10 w/Combi-Plasma and Lightning Claw

>Heavy Support
Havoks x7 with 4 Autocannons

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>>54935049

>>54935181
Soulburners if you face a lot of high saves and invulns, otherwise the Flamers are fine.

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>>54935049

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>>54935049
Death Guard

>>54935143
>that means that Night Lords Raptors put a magical entropy-inducing field on my Skitarii
Night Lords use some pretty cool tech. Against admech, it wouldn't surprise me if they employed some panic code emitter to cause confusion and shit b

>>54935107
What army you play? If they have drops, just deep strike charge into the reapers and you're fine.

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>>54935049

>>54935192
Up for pre order next week/10

>>54935107
Reapers, like most eldar, are squishy fuckers. Charge 'em or shoot 'em and they fold, especially if you have a -2 or so AP.

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Tell me /tg/. Would this have gone differently if Death Guard had a proper release during the campaign?

>>54935150
Because they're really situational. The only good build I've found is to take the skyshield, park a Vulture and tech priest there in hover mode, then heal 2d3 as you fire 40.

>>54935185
I started nids for the same reason, unfortunately being a standard villain as we are, most of the time this stuff is just completely ignored and then you get curbstomped by the good guys. Other times it's almost properly done like those eldar (or Deldar) that lured a tendril to a star by creating the false signals of shittons of biomass or the more recent great rift that ripped in half a tendril so the isolated bit got basically sacrificed to khorne before they ate Baal. So ironically the Blood Angels were saved by one of their main arch enemies. Probably Khorne likes them quite a lot as the sadistic vampires they are

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>>54935049
dark eldar or bust

>>54935206
That actually looks pretty good to me. Let's talk stratagems. What's your game plan? Tide of Traitors spam?

>>54935253
Well, the Skitarii themselves have those, and they work on the Night Lords. The one time I fought them my Infiltrators pulled a mutual morale kill on some Raptors. NL actually do a really good job of fighting Admech, since I don't have the infantry screens needed to keep them off my dakka. They just land and shred me.
I'm working on a big pack of electros ATM, so if all else fails I can wrap up a firebase in those for a turn.

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>>54935049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzNhT0l4O7o

>>54935278
Honestly?
No.
There are simply too many imperial players, period. Having Space Marines be the first Codex helped make it even worse though.

So, there's a tale about Flesh Tearers boarding the space hulk Soul of Damnation and finding ancient Luna Wolves marine in a stasis. The guy, after they told him about fate of his legion rages and goes into the void.

Any more information about this guy?

>>54935278
If they had done a full death guard release with Mortarion right as the campaign was gearing up to start? Yes, I think at least one planet could've been chaos controlled by now.

>>54935278
not really

if it were a full generic chaos release maybe, but even then I doubt it

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>>54935049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy-sVTaZRPk

>>54935155
let out a hearty chuckle at rental vehicle dodging
good thing about living in a politically insignificant place is not having to care about such things

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>>54935049
Renegades

>>54935304
Are you sure you're not misremembering Garviel Loken?

>>54935278
taking into consideration the sheer volume of imperials
no

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>>54935049

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>>54935049
we have organic welding torches

>>54935343
No. It's in the current chaos codex.

>>54935171
Skyshields are cheap and the distance deep striking units will have to climb if they start 9" away from the Skyshield will protect your gunline.

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>>54935278
Honestly I think it would have been interesting if GW had a set amount of wins the Imperium players needed to reach each stage, with Chaos playing spoiler against that.

As it stands it incredibly dull and it's clear how the campaign will end up. It really doesn't reflect the struggle the Imperium faces in the fluff and nobody aside from sad muh good-guys fanboys are happy about how it's playing out. Most normal Imperium players wanted some sort of conflict and sport out of this.

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>>54935292
You NPCfags disgust me.

>>54935419
>buying into """organic"""
you're a git

everyone knows GMO squigs are superior

>>54935433
chaos might tie by getting the last three because GW is handing them free points

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>>54935049

>>54935419
The torch is the thing in his right hand.

>>54935295
The plan is to have options, really. The mass of termies lands with the Sorcerer and Lord near whatever needs killing asap. Dump prescience and go to town with overcharged plasma. If need be, I can give them a mark for 1CP and then use whatever strategem I need. Ideally, that'll be Slaanesh, which will give me a whopping 40 overcharged 2+ rerolling 1s plasma shots. The only downside to that is that I need to use it at the start of my turn, which means it doesn't happen right away. I can always spend 1CP to swap out Death Hex for Warp Time to pull a fast one the turn after they drop. I can also really stack the buffs and go with Veterans of the Long War, too, which means I'd even be wounding Land Raiders on a 3+ with the plasma. Tide of Traitors is of course always an option. I feel that after the first attempt, my opponent might just give up trying to kill them. Fury of Khorne could be used on my melee squad depending on what they reach, though 3CP is big. I am also tempted to give my sorcerer a MoN so he could potentially cast Miasma on the Termies with a simple swap, which give a whopping -2 to hit with In Midnight Clad.

Basically, I have a lot of options with 9CP for some fun tricks.

>>54935057

Gorka every time. KMK is probably overall slightly better than the Deffstorm but the rest of their shooting is more or less identical. It comes down to the melee, and there the Gorka has the edge with +2 attacks. That means 18 Str 8 Ap-2 Dmg 2 attacks hitting on 3+, vs the 12 of the Morka. Morka needs a price drop or a serious boost to its KMK to warrent taking. KFF is nice but not much to write home about.

>>54935451
>waaaaah why didint they just give up.

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>painting black armor by painting black first then painting black on black and then highlighting with black

WHAT

>>54935304
He retired to Rophanon and lived the rest of his days as a masseur for high ranking Imperial officials. He perished in 993.M40 when the world was subject to exterminatus following a short lived rebellion and subsequent Tyranid invasion

>>54935458
what would you call the squig then

Is there a collection of WH Community comments that clarify rules?

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>>54935302

Chaos Primaris when?

Getting tired of my osbsolete manlet chaos marines.

>>54935264
That is what I did, sadly where i play the scenery are huge ass buildings and they always put reapers and shit on top of them so you cant drop and charge at the same time. Also they tend to block with lesser units so you can't drop close.

>>54935476
Most of them end up in the FAQ in time I think. They have been doing pretty well of compiling everything recently.

>>54935472

You questioning Duncan?

>>54935476
FAQs and probably Chapter Approved when that becomes a thing again

2 Archons
10 Hellions
1 Raider
10 Kabalites
5 Wyches
5 Incubi
9 Reavers
5 mandrakes
1 Troupe
1 Death Jester

Adding a venom or another raider soon. What sort of list should I run with all this stuff?

>>54935192
I see this got fixed. Very nice.

>>54935451
What free points? Proofs?

>>54935278
The campaign shows how the fluff of chaos should be always be written.
Guerrilla wars at best, with random terrorist acts. Chaos marines are insignificant without lore asspull Chaos does not have the numbers to even conquer a random hive world.
They are the Tau of the Bad guys if you like.

>>54935505
He's just butt flustered there is actual resistance this time don't mind him.

>>54935501
A dark eldar list would be my suggestion.

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What would you assume about a regiment with this color scheme?

>>54935505
Either GW is fudging the numbers or all the Xenos out of fucking nowhere started giving points to chaos while the Imperials just got bored and went home.

>>54935521

It has ties with the cog boys and the regiments homeworld is urban/tundra based?

>>54935521
That they're going to give me some nice presents this christmas.

>>54935472
>being so pleb you can't tell different shades of black
That said it is hardly worth it unless you doing s painting competition.

>>54935533
Nothing to do with Chaos getting a codex then?

>>54935517
It's all so clear to me now! Thanks Anon! I think I just feel insecure about my lack of paper boats.

>>54935548
Nop, the only way Chaos won something during EoT was by cheating. There simply not enough chaos marines in the lore and in the game to make any difference without an asspull.

Even lore wise only retard Xenos or paid ones would help chaos. So it is basically Imperium and Xenos vs chaos. Helping chaos is like helping terrorist groups destroy a bridge you use, just because the enemy country also use it. If it gets blown both of you get dick over.

>>54935472
Abbadon black has a different finish than chaos black primer

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>>54935581
They pay really well though! Then we just fuck back off into the webway.

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>>54935521
Hey wait a minute.....

>>54935552
Two raiders with warriors and a ravager has pretty much been the DE mainstay for as long as they've existed as a faction.

depending on how much you hate painting boats you can replace the ravager with some scourges, though

>>54935596
>i had a homebrew regiment that had a simmilar scheme
>tfw thanks to his raging autism i canf bring myself to do it anymore
Fuck RGG

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>>54935049
There's a reason we're the most popular faction and the face of 40k

>>54935600
Not too much hate for painting boats. Ravager sounds nice though so I guess the next things I'll get will be another raider and that then more mandrakes. Thanks pal-o-!

>>54935595
Even then DE are even more insignificant than chaos or tau.
DE are like the Italians of 40k

>>54935581
> Everyone but the imperium is eeeeevul or stupid.

>>54935609
>shoving marines into everything makes them popular
I have my doubts about their popularity on their own merits

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>>54935614
Fuck.. now I'm gonna read all dark eldar with Italian accents thanks Anon.

>>54935419
That is a Grot Oiler. That is an oil gun, not a welding torch.

>>54935521
The owner of said infantry is not particularly talented at color schemes and most likely can't paint well either

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>>54935521

>>54935623
Everyone is stupid and evil in 40k, chaos supporting is just another entire level of stupid. Like burning your own house intentionally while trap inside.

>>54935643
Memes-ahoy!

>>54935634
Yeah 65% of the playerbase was just tricked into playing loyalist marines

>>54935654
Well I haven't bought a single marine since I started playing back in RT and now I have over a 100.
Why? Because every started has marines and it is easier you to number the spinoff games that do not have marines than the ones that do.

>>54935673
I should never phone post. Bloody sneaky autocorrect.

>>54935614
I'm pretty sure it's more around:
> Everyone IN CHAOS is Evil (Stupid may or may not apply)

>>54935681
bad link, it was this one:

>>54935623
I'm pretty sure it's more around:
> Everyone IN CHAOS is Pure Evil (Stupid may or may not apply)

>>54935192
New crew models for the Repulsor?

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Lolol chaos fags on plebbit whining about chaos fags whining.

>>54935608
>HIS raging autism

>>54935681
Joining chaos is stupid on itself. Like those European kids from Germany joining Isis

>>54935581
>by cheating
I mean they are Chaos, cheating is pretty in character
>Xenos helping chaos
Depend what your short medium and long term goals are doesn't it? A chaos victory at Konor or better yet a stalemate could well draw imperial resources away from fronts more important to x xeno species for example
>because lore
pretty irrelevant given the nature of the campaign

Meh Imperium will wnl, GW will throw Chaos a narrative bone or something and the world will return to normal

>>54935726
Like I said, Chaos can't win without asspulls

>Reducing a 2000 point list to a 1000
It's like choosing which fingers to chop off

>>54935752
That's alot of conscripts

>>54935737
They more than likely won't win. You seem particularly invested in the imperium though so I hope they don't lose just for your mental wellbeing. You are loved Anon it's not worth it man the blue boys are gonna bring it home for ya!

>>54935741
We are paying a lot more for worthless plastic. That said it is still stupid.

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>>54935071
Unremembered empire has this

>>54935764
Nah, we all want to dick over Ultramarines, just not by chaos because that requires Tau level of anime protagonist lore.

>>54935737
sure but can't win and can't make gains are different things Choas making some gains in the week after their codex dropped doesn't mean they're cheating, what it probably means is that they're gaining points for going out and buying the codex and it might just be possible that the legion tactics, points drops and other benefits of having a codex might be buoying them up a bit

>>54935774
Memes aside, please share, I'm curious at the idea of an Iron Warrior and a Fist teaming up

>>54935480
Chaos Primaris should be kept as a rare elite unit or two only, IMO, if they ever get to the tabletop at all. It makes no sense to have the Traitor Legions making Primaris en masse, when loads of warbands are still forced to scavenge new equipment, and many still only get new recruits through absorbing others. Plus, Primaris defectors are probably going to be quite rare, due to the added corruption resistance in their gene-seed.

It makes sense for CSMs to be the primary continuation of mini-Marines, IMO. But new ones definitely need to be somewhere around Thousand Sons, or even Death Guard, scale.

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>>54935049
Magnus did nothing wrong.

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>>54935787
Magnus did everything wrong

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>>54935784
Why not use newer kits to kitbash good lookin CSM?

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>>54935049

>>54935822
Damn son are you modeling as a receptionist at work?? Because that's gangster.

>>54935822
Nice buttplug

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>>54935049

>>54935752
I hate this. I make 2000 point lists where I can include everything I love to play with. Then everyone wants to play 1500 due to time. I then have to cut tons of flavor to keep my list balanced. I hate it!

>>54935782
Guiliman has an imperial fist help him with a secret project, which is being run by a loyalist warsmith. They eventually become best friends

>>54935822
Looking nice btw I work a desk as well and the thought never occurred to me Night desk is boring as shit.

>>54935837
>>54935871
It's legit as fuck, I sit around all day so I might as well file and glue models

>>54935293
We need more of these

>>54935699
Go back

>>54935882
>>54935871
I plan on painting Guardsmen the moment my stack of manager paperwork is done. Rainy Fridays are slow in commercial auto parts.

>>54935971
I'm in the courthouse business myself. It helps that my director is awesome as shit though, he pretty much just expects me to be at work everyday, and he considers that to be a good worker.

Should I get a unit of scourges with some heavy weapons or should I fall for the mandrakes meme?

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>>54935023
>>>54935764
>chaos requires Tau levels of anime protagonist lore

>primarch given literal superpowers, plus marines who were given almost super powers, plus cultists, plus limitless daemons
>vs. a primarch who just woke up from a 10k year nap, plus slightly taller marines, plus almost limitless guardsmen and toys
Seems like an even bout to me, even leaning a bit towards the stinky legions

>>54935037
A short lived meme that still makes me smile. This picture is my total favorite.

>>54935278
>Name tag on the star

Is week 7 going to take place on the surface of the sun?

>>54936073
>missing my (You) this badly
At least my image is exactly how I feel now

>>54935822
Shame there are no plastic Mk2s. The IW upgrades fit in better with those.

>>54936098

I don't know why they made plastic mark 3 when Mark 3 is basically just mark 2 Gravis.

>>54935822
Because those still mostly look like loyalist Marines. The Mk III armour fits Iron Warriors, since a lot of artwork for them emphasises their industrial aesthetic instead of the organic, arrow-overdosed style of most CSMs, but 40K Word Bearers built mostly from Calth Mk IV parts would take away from the fact that they're meant to be... well, Chaos worshippers.

>>54936117

Making up a recently fallen renegade chapter, using mostly loyalist parts but making them still look like a chaos force might be a fun challenge.

>>54936131
Gav Thorpes one good piece of writing (I guess two pieces of writing) are about a group of Avenging Sons going Renegade. Good source of ideas.

>>54936111
mk3's easier to make in plastic than mk2, so I can see why they chose it

putting the cataphractii with the mk4 marines and the tartaros with the mk3 marines will never stop triggering me, though

>>54936098
Seeing as how the 40K IW upgrade torso is a variant Mk II, yeah. I think Mk III and IV were FW's best-sellers though, so they made sense as the first two up.

>>54936111
Mk II armour definitely makes more sense. Only a few Legions ever used Mk III as a general-issue armour, since it was primarily intended to fill the void that was later taken over by Terminator armour.

I'm still hopeful that GW will do plastic Mk II at some point. The only way I can see loyalist mini-Marines getting any significant future releases is through another HH plastic release, and Mk II would be perfect for that. Although I suspect it might be a bit harder to pull off the segmented armour plates in plastic, since they go around the entirety of the legs, unlike on Mk III. It could lead to some problems due to the lack of undercutting for plastic sprues.

>>54936001
You could post updated stuff though. It's been the same picture and replies for the last week at least

>>54936176

Eh, modern plastic kits are about as detailed as FW kits. In fact, a lot of recent plastic releases have been better detailed than the resin kits.

>>54936131
That is a good point. GW had some examples of exactly that in the 3rd edition CSM Codex, where they had some recent renegades from loyalist Chapters wearing mostly loyalist armour with a few CSM parts mixed in.

>>54936170
>putting the cataphractii with the mk4 marines and the tartaros with the mk3 marines will never stop triggering me, though

The skeptic in me figures that they did it because they wanted people to buy both boxes.

Also, I think Mk IV was one of FW's bestsellers, and Cataphractii was pretty much legendary among HH players, even before receiving official models, so it made sense to release them both first up. Tartaros, on the other hand, didn't even exist in the lore until FW released it as part of the Badab War stuff.

One last try at a rules question. I know auras don't work while a unit is embarked but what about abilities? Can Fallen use their rerolls if in a fortification, provided that they didn't move last turn?

It annoys me that FW don't make a set of jump packs and leaping legs for mk IV armour. At least with Mark III you can justify that people comboing jump packs with the heavier plate would be vanishingly rare.

>>54936083
>the faction that scores the worst gets packed up into cruisers and thrown into the sun
>all of said faction's model lines are squatted

>>54936205
I won't argue on that, but undercutting issues might be an issue on Mk II armour, depending on the posing. Resin's one advantage is being able to handle undercuts, even though plastic is starting to surpass it in terms of detail. It's why the studs on a FW studded shoulder pad are all properly rounded, but the studded shoulder pads in things like the plastic Mk IV kit look like the studs are all aligned perpendicular to the mould line, rather than following the curvature of the pad.

It might not be a drastic issue though, since the gaps between the segments on Mk II armour are fairly fine.

>>54936233
They do have the Mk IV assault squad, but the legs aren't very dynamic at all. They've got jump packs and cool variant torsos though.

>>54936241
>chaos loses the event
>GW doesn't release mortarion or the death guard, since they've been banished for the next thousand years

>>54936083
>take place on the surface of the sun?
>Chaos wins control of the sun
>The ONLY win Chaos gets

GW:
>And Morty and his Death Guard succeed in their TRUE goal. Corrupting Konor's star. Now the star is a DAEMON STAR OF NURGLE corrupting and decaying anything the tainted light touches. The Konor system is lost. Chaos wins again.

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ok /tg/ here is a mini i haven't done anything with in over 15 years (put it goether and sat in a box.

decided i'd do some work on him today. Yes it's the GW Mailorder Trolls Magnus The Red. i was going to paint him up more like the old epic colorscheme but i said fuck it .. can't use him as magnus now so he'll just be a demonprince.

i still have more details to pick out (charms/skulls) and i have to make a chain for his tabard. also i think i'll do some gems on his staff. I need to let the wash dry first tho.

>>54936241
>chaos gets squatted
I can live with this, if we can throw marines under the bus too 40k would improve immediately.
Sadly demons would be gone too.

>>54935023

>Genestealer paying for jeans

0/10 meme

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>>54935023
Noise marine sonic weapons are out of stock at GW and ebay is pretty dry as well. Are there any other reliable sites that might sell them? I don't want to settle for third party bitz when it comes to sonic weapons.

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>>54936360
why exactly does everyone care about the Konor system anyway? I can't imagine a reason for so many soldiers dying to take control of seven fucking planets.

Which primarchs would be the most proud of their legion? Which would be the least proud?

No idea what I'm doing, but I like the Black Templars and I have almost all of this.


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [109 PL, 1999pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Black Templars

+ HQ +

Chaplain Grimaldus [6 PL, 120pts]

High Marshal Helbrecht [9 PL, 170pts]

The Emperor's Champion [4 PL, 75pts]

+ Troops +

Crusader Squad [12 PL, 194pts]: 3x Neophyte w/Shotgun
. 7x Initiate w/Chainsword
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power sword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Grav-gun
. Sword Brother: Grav-pistol, Power sword

Crusader Squad [9 PL, 109pts]
. 3x Initiate w/Chainsword
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power sword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Grav-gun
. Sword Brother: Grav-pistol, Power sword

Crusader Squad [9 PL, 109pts]
. 3x Initiate w/Chainsword
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power sword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Grav-gun
. Sword Brother: Grav-pistol, Power sword

+ Elites +

Reiver Squad [10 PL, 200pts]: Combat knife, Grav Chutes, 9x Reiver, Reiver Sergeant

Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 148pts]: Missile launcher, Twin autocannon

+ Heavy Support +

Hellblaster Squad [16 PL, 330pts]: Plasma incinerator
. 9x Hellblaster
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

Land Raider Crusader [16 PL, 314pts]: 2x Hurricane bolter, Multi-melta, Twin assault cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Razorback [5 PL, 115pts]: Twin lascannon

Razorback [5 PL, 115pts]: Twin lascannon

++ Total: [109 PL, 1999pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

>>54936241
>chaos is squatted
>carnacs asspain is felt throughout all of humanity

Stop anon, i can only get so erect

>>54936368
Clever girl
Pay for some steal a bunch more.

>>54936339
Just like FoC

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>>54936430
>All this effort for some shit-tier forge world we've never even heard of
>Primarchs are getting involved in the antics involving this shit

Godammit GW..

>>54936439
>this many people caring about some literally who internet autist
You fags are fueling his ego with all this hate, I hope you know this

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>>54936413
>so many soldiers dying to take control of seven fucking planets.
>seven fucking planets.
>SEVEN

Nurgle's number is seven and the Chaos Gods are autistic as fuck where their numbers are concerned.

>pic related. Tzeentch literally picked that system because of 9s.

>>54936428
Most proud: Vulkan
Least proud: Conrad Cruze. He literally killed himself because he hated his sons so much.

>>54936413
>I can't imagine a reason for so many soldiers dying to take control of seven fucking planets.
I mean, the Somme's just a river.

Guys im mentally retarded.
I ordered a larger order from GW to get free shipping and avoid going downtown to pick my shit up at the store.

now since the order contains paints it got stopped in customs, and im charged 16.5€ customs fee and 35.4€ VAT on items that I already paid 20% VAT to England on.

So my 141€ order is now 193€

It takes me about 15minutes to travel to GW and 2minutes to my local post office. Now if the queue at the post office is 5minutes... Then I just paid 50euro to save 5minutes.

>>54936044

Both

>>54936223
Help? Game in an hour

>>54936510
Last time I ordered spray cans on the site, it made it clear that the requirement for special courier bullshit meant no free-postage option

>>54936510
Shit sucks man. Best thing to do is just write it off and learn from it to avoid a similar mistake in the future.

At least you'll have your items eventually, look forward to putting them to use when they eventually turn up.

>>54936510
Then I hope you get paid 600+ yuros per hour to justify it

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>>54936413
>>54936430
>>54936459

To be fair, forge worlds are kinda nuts. Lucius is Kardashev 1 from the massive reactor and most others at that point with all their fusion plants, they hold billions of troops and Kataphrons (Which have fucking grav-cannon, that's kinda insane for basic heavy troops) and outfit entire sectors. They're some of the most powerful worlds around, not least because they hold stupid quantities of secret tech. Konor doesn't look like a very big one from the area of the planet left unurbanized, but they have turned their moon into a fucking Death Star megacity. Frankly this just looks like a logical amount of effort to take a solar system, planets are fucking big.

Seems like the Imperium has already got the important worlds in the system locked down, though. We'll have to see how many extra places GW can come up with on the other planets that are actually worth a damn, though.

>>54936549
I've sent them an email asking if this is normal. And they also comped my full order and sent me another order since it was delayed by two days over their delivery time.

but im not sure if its such a good deal to get x2 order when I have to pay 50€ customs on both and its basically just paints and electropriests.

>>54935335
if only she were a
perverted noble into body modification
instead of a
perverted noble into body modification WHO IS ALSO A FOLLOWER OF CHAOS

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Ready for a batrep my fine anons? Played a 2000pt 2v1 as the forces of the Primaris Marines and Imperial Guard attempt to hold back the forces of the blood god Khorne.

>>54935278

No, Death Guard is new and cool but very niche.

It could only have happened if regular undivided chaos got a big release

>Multi part csm
>New chaos lord
>New terminators
>New posessed
>New cultists

etc

>>54935521

They operate in snowy mars-red earthy environments

>>54936630
Not Peach enough. Anything you can do to compensate?

>>54936602
>last 2 planets are an ocean world
CHAOS WHALES

>>54936391

I think there are some russian sites that still have em.

good luck with that

>>54936630
that terrain is pretty dire, man

Anybody have some spare Sentinel flamers to donate? Mine came ebay'd with LASCANNONS despite the pictures and that's kind of useless IMO. You'd be helping to hold the line.

>>54936683
Will they be Slaanesh or Nurgle?

>>54936630
LOOK OUT MR RHINO!

THAT DAEMON WANTS YOUR BOOTY!

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>>54936657
I'll try my best to make it as peach as possible anon. Whatever that means.
>>54936630
We started the game with me and my primaris ally stealing the initiative,which immediately got a round of complaining from our opponent about how he should never have played us. We tried not being assholes with our shooting and took out only a Rhino and a squad through shooting with the rest of our fire damaging the other Chaos vehicles on the field.

>>54936683
>Whale song causes you to hallucinate and your nose to bleed

>>54936785
The grey one.

>>54936777
He's meming about your rose-hued counterpart who's exiled until he repaints all his dude.

On that note how do YOU feel about RGG, GGA?

>>54936339
Calth all over again! My Word Bearers could not be more enthusiastic

>>54936785
BLACKFIRE EARTH

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>>54936714
Well the mission wanted a barren field but I put some terrain on the table anyway just because once again I don't want to be an asshole. That and it just looks better.
>>54936777
He moved up and tried shooting some bolters and combi bolters from the Rhinos. The Maulerfiend running up the field too and got seven Hellblasters to kill themselves as they overcharged to take it out on overwatch. With us killing more of our own models than he had so far.

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>>54935049

>>54936831
>the mission wanted a barren field
oh, fair enough

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Is there any reason fro chosens in army expect melta-suicide via infiltrate?

>>54936879
4 Flamers in a Rhino

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What should I put on my piranha? Dakka cannon or pew-pew blaster? Also do you paint your flyers bases or keep them transparent?

Any fluff for how the Orks are viewing Primaris Marines and Guilliman's return?

>>54935206
No raptors in a NL list? Wouldn't you want to split termis into two units?

>>54936898
I'd leave them with the cannon
S5 is versatile as fuck these days
Leave big-thing-murdering to the suits

>>54936879
Yes? Melta and Flamer chosen are good. Hell, 5 Chosen with Combi Bolters is cheaper than 10 CSM with bolters.

You should take Chosen over CSM almost always, and Chosen for Special Weapons too.

>>54936898
>Also do you paint your flyers bases or keep them transparent?
I personally leave them transparent, tends to look better on the table when you play.

>>54936936
How do you go about making IW Chosen since they hate submitting to the warp and cut off mutations?

>>54936952
Fancy armor. Chosen are just vets at the core. Get nice fancy shoulders and helmets, go with older armor patterns, etc.

>>54936785
Warp-touched desert.

>>54936970
>>54936952
Oh, and for IW, lots of bionics.

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>>54936795
He really loved to bitch this game. Even when he was winning he still complained.
>>54936818
He's a cool dude.
>>54936831
On our turn we got into a fatal obsession with his stupid Maulerfiend. With it getting reduced to two wounds and still not dying even with the sacrifice of my overcharging Executioner to kill it. But we still managed to hit two of his Rhinos hard too which would come in handy for late game points.

>>54936952
Just fluff it as them being really hardcore veterans, soldiers who have REALLY fought the Long War against the Imperium. They don't need the Dark Gods, only their skill and equipment.

>>54936730
Nurgle, Slanessh has pods of enhanced rape Dolphins

>>54936785
Nah, let them stride through a (chaos) strawberry field.

>>54936993
Ding ding ding

>>54936785
astrogranite

>>54935782
Partly the imperial fist has brotherhood issues since he couldn't save his brother when they went to the trials on Inuit

>>54936979
Where's your line of sight blocking terrain pieces?

>>54936979
>Even when he was winning he still complained.

I know a guy like that.

>>54937009
I don't think so >>54937011

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Vroom?

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>>54936979
Then this shit happened and all but one of my infantry squads got wrecked in the melee giving Chaosfag a shitload of points and starting our glorious comeback to kick his ass. This was pretty much his high point for the game.

>>54935638
then why is he wearing a mask

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>>54936429

>>54937060
Because no one cared who he was

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>>54936936
What about combi-plasma-chosens? Like unit with 4 combi-plasmas, 4 bolters, 1 heavy and champion with combi-plasma. It costs 260pts but looks impressive

>>54937031
It could work with some additional colour added in. Perhaps something like patches of vegetation, craters or even paving stones with material between the cracks.

>>54935638
Torch or oiler, in any case the hose should come out the squigs ass

>>54937060
To muffle the endless screaming. Ol' Gritzna has never been the same after that one night in the Painboyz' hut ...

>>54937104
i assume they pumped the squig full of oil and then they squeeze it.

and squigs are like 99% stomach.

>>54935071
Betrayer

>>54937104
Maybe it's the squighs drool that does the lubricating.

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>>54937118

>>54937017
Americans aren't pussies like Europoors. We actually bring lists that can take a hit.

>>54936223
Please dudes? I'm starting soon and want to know if I'm shoving them in this bastion.

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>>54937017
Pretty much the trees. It didn't really matter that much anyways because once they got into melee LOS didn't matter that much.
>>54937045
Speeding up to turn four we slaughtered his berserkers through plasma fire and melee and blew up another two of his Rhinos+the Maulerfiend. Then shit got risky. I overcharged my Executioner and since the Daemon Prince was slightly closer fired fucking everything and that plus some Primaris fire got that Daemon prince down to one wound so we decided to fuck it and charge everything into the Prince.

1250 Death Guard
>Typhus/Miasma and Plague Wind
>Malignant Plaguecaster/^^
>Dark Apostle/Nurgle/Black Mace
>Noxious Blightbringer
>Contemptor dread/C-beam/havoc/autocannon
>Pox x13
>Pox x11
>Plague Champion/chainaxe/combiplasma
>Plague Marines x4/blight launcher
>Bloat drone
>Heldrake

I am not super satisfied with this list but we will see

>>54937148
I think they'd be fine. If it's on their stat card, and the thing they are embarked inside of hasn't moved then it should be fine.

>>54937159
>Bastion starts walking around the table
>Damn possessed buildings! I can't aim like this!

>>54937155
Cant have 4 special weapons in 1 PM marine squad my man

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>>54937154
We managed to kill the Daemon prince and high fives and cheers were had by everyone in the store even our Tau player joining in for the celebration.

>>54937182
yeah I meant 1x blight launcher. my b for not singling it out

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>tried to paint one of my minis with dark skin because it's fucking dumb the only black people in the galaxy got turned it by radiation sun
>Realise I suck shit at painting, especially shading flesh
>Accidental black face
>Racist mini or not?

>>54937203

Well, it's more that you're just a shitty painter. Although there are guides to painting different types of skin tones you should check out.

>>54937203
Dats raycis anon, lose-lose

>>54937174
>"CYPHER HELP, I REPEAT, WE NEED ASSISTANCE!"
>Cypher twists around and lets out a frustrated sigh as he watches his well-trained Fallen Squad being escorted around the battlefield via a colossal, adamantium building with bi-pedal legs.
>Somewhere in the warp, Tzeentch cackles to himself mischievously

What's a competitive Tau Battlesuit with FW list look like?

>>54937246
6 quad-fusion commanders and drones.

Enjoy your nerfs in the next FAQ faggot

>>54937203
Eat dat watermelon eat dat watermelon

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>>54937203
>add forced diversity because you think something is racist
>end up being far more racist in your attempt to fix things

Classic Liberal move

That being said, GW is painting a shit load of dark and black complexioned figures now on their site and promo pages so I'm not sure what you want and you deserve your shitty blackface.

>>54937255
No, I want just literally battlesuits. The big ones.

>>54937074
You're better off going straight plasma. I do this in my AL list. 5 plasma, champ with two plasma pistols (cus it looks cool) or a combi-plas if you want. Sit a lord with them. Combi plas isn't worth it as you take a -1 penalty which risks blowing up too much if you overcharge and even if you don't, you're getting less hits of the shots you want (plas) for a few bolter hits. Not worth it.

If you're doing it, keep squads small and do MSU. Helps fill up detachments for CP. Comes in at 185 points.

On that note too, Hellforged Contemptors are good. One with twin butcher cannons and a havoc is 217 points and they benefit from legion tactics. Can use the Double Fire Strategem as FAQ added the Helbrute keyword.

Also good are Hellforged Predators. Both fill up Elite slots so Vanguard detachments are easy with chosen.

Rapier batteries in Heavy Support are also good. Better than Havoks honestly, for the most part.

>>54937275
>>54937203

Greenstuff a bucket in the crook of his right arm

>>54937203
your painting isnt as horrid as people say it is but the picture has bad lighting and your colours needs a second thin coat and Highlighting, still can se the primer through. And Drill the Bolter Barrels.
.
The Face is too Dark, use the brown used for his hair and shade it darker

On your actual comment. Its a huge fuckoff universe and sure there are dark-skinned Marines but why does it matter to you, besides that all marines of one chapter would have the same skin-colour due to their geneseed being the same.

>>54935638
Nope
https://www.games-workshop.com/Meganobz

>>54937270
Fuck off.

>>54937307
FUCK YOU

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Death Guard becoming thunders cunts because of healing soon.

>>54937073
here is your (you), (you) deserve it

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>>54937193
On turn 4 he managed to slaughter most of our remaining units in melee. But on our turn five with an absolute miracle we managed to take out the Bloodthirster and the Hounds with focused fire. Leaving only the Chaos lord alive. He ran towards us confident he could kill the Primaris Heavy Plasma in melee since he still had the Heldrake. He charged and was killed by three overwatch shots and since flyers don't count for units on the board he counted as tabled which gave us the game. The rage was legendary anons.

>>54937282
I've got you. Always thought chosens is shitty unit even compared to normal marines squad.
> MSU
What does it mean?
> Hellforged Contemptors
I prefer Leviathans. Twin grav-flux is monster.
> Hellforged Predators
Didnt found good weapons for them. Normal lascannons and autocannons good enough.

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>>54937255
>tau have one good unit in a sea of complete shit
>faggots still call them waac despite roboute, ynnari, nids, and guard running over everything

>>54937296
>Nope
Wat...
>This multi-part plastic boxed set contains three Meganobz and a Grot Oiler.

Blood Angels Codex when ?

I want my unique blood stratagems, reduced cost value for Sanguinary Guards and DC Dreadnought, one or two new Primaris special characters and some fancy Primaris Sanguinator Bloodsquad(tm) or something.

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>>54937340
>He charged and was killed by three overwatch shots
Those plasma marines are going places.

>>54937342
Many Small Units. Chosen that are shooting should be 5 or 6 in size for the most part.

Leviathans are more expensive and have to get closer. Contemptors are for sitting farther back. Leviathans are also kinda bullshit and cheesy so I avoid them.

Hellforged can run the normal guns. Its the slot change thats good.

>>54937182
Any other thoughts?

>>54937345
It will never end, 25% of all marine players are still butthurt over the 3.5 chaos dex.

>>54937364
Probably won't get anything really new. Maybe 1 or 2 things ala Grey Knights.

>>54937364
I swear, out of the 3 special snowflake chapters BA players are the most entitled faggots.

>>54935741
>$5
what?

>>54937409
True but Yiffs are pretty unbearable.

I actually don't mind the gays as much.

>>54937415
Hello newfriend

>>54937381
He did say seven of them blew themselves up on an earlier Overwatch. The survivors were evidently in practice from seeing what happened to their comrades.

>>54937424
Yiffs are bar none the worst. I'm just saying the vampies are entitled brats.

>>54937439
Agreed.

>>54937345
They are WAAC and the playtesters already confirmed they're getting nerfed, eat shit taufag.

>>54937427
dammit, Tzeentch!

>>54937389
C-beamers just arent that good; to be in the 'okay' bracket, you hav to be >48" away(str 10 ap -2/3 i forget, dam 3D3) which is outside your autocannon range. 24-48" you are better off getting a twin lascannon.

and by autocannon, i assume you mean butcher cannon? if thats the case, get two, and split fire to make good use of the LD penalty

The blight bringer is also just meh, dosent hit too hard, and his aura is pretty meh

other than that you will struggle vs armour, and you have spnt too many points on HQs. if you can, get your self a las preditor

>>54937327
>Plague crawler
>Blight drone
>Blight walker artwork thing
>Plague marine kit
>Potion dude
>Tallyman
>Deathshroud
>Lord of Contagion
>Typhus
>Morty

So much for my mixed God army, I know where my raise money is going.

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>start chaos at the end of 7e
>play my first game at 8e
>all this sperging about 3.5E
W-what have I done wrong?!

>>54937446
I don't even tau retard, I can just recognize garbage datasheets when I see them.

>>54937460
>Plague crawler
What is this?
What is this?
What is this?

>>54937340
>the rage was legendary
>>54937193
>everybody in the store celebrated when his dude died
Gee, I wonder why he wasn't in the best of moods. Protip: do not bully chaos players, they don't take it very well.

>>54937474
the nurgle snail beast thing, probably

>>54937474
The Plagueburst Crawler tank you slow-ass weak-ass google-fu motherfucker

>>54937364
>reduced cost value
GKs didn't get a point decrease. Enjoy your properly costed dudes.

>>54937459
Disagree in C-Beamers. 24" is Str 8, AP3, 2d3 damage. Thats nasty on its own, as good or better than a lascannon.

>>54937460
Don't forget
>40k Glottkin
>40k Maggoths
>New GUO
>Horticulus, Grand Cultivator of Nurgle

Someone should do an army of soul grinders in super sentai/power rangers colors. Just say they're chaos furies in their previous lives and boom!

Alright anons waiting for their own CSM/SM codex, what is one thing you want the most?

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>GW recommend daisy chaining
Well then.

>>54937506
no one is going to buy your recasted soul-grinders chinaman

>>54937504
Honestly 40k Maggoths make me kind of wish I'd jumped on board the nurgle train, the nurgling guy seems fun.

>>54937504
>Porting AOS models over to 40K
I was kinda disappointed when Gaunt Summoner and more Tzaangors didn't get into 40K

>>54937516
Why wouldn't they, the rules were literally designed for this

>>54937516
I mean, it is a valid tactic. I use it really often with my Deathwing when deep striking.

>>54935023
What is the prime faction for maid waifus?

>>54937518
Chaos Sentai Grindanger!

>>54937535
Sisters

>>54937527
They might make it into the new Thousand Sons Codex...

>>54937542
killyourself

>>54937382
> have to get closer
You still can take butcher cannons
And i think at least 1 infantry unit must be big, cause Endless Cacophony stratagem+VotLW combo

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>>54937547
no, have a /m/acro

>>54937527
>Tzaangor Skyfire on a disc with a Soulreaper Cannon.

I'm imagining this would look really stupid anyway.

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>>54937486
Oh my, how the diddely-doo did i miss that

>>54937503
>is Str 8, AP3, 2d3 damage.
>30 points
humm, thought it was 40. fair enough. personally, i would still stick with a TWL LC, but i can deffintly see C-beamers

Anons, I'm building a Black Legion army built around Abby and a squad of 10 terminators with combi-weapons. Whats the better option, combi-meltas or combi-plasmas?

>>54937529
>>54937534

But anooooons that is waac!

>>54937612
Plasma, has longer effective range and with overcharge it should be on tier with melta anyway.

>>54937460
>>Blight walker artwork thing
Oh fuck where??????????? My dick is already rock hard from the rest of your list.

>>54937460

I went for Death Guard too after years in 40k and not comitting to a single army

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>>54937516

I do the same thing with Yarrick, not even guilty about it.

>>54937489
>Properly costed dudes

DC dreads are pricier than fucking Redemptors despite being weaker, while Guards have snowflakes bolters which, despite being Assault 2 S4 AP-1, cost 9 points each.

>>54937463
nothing, this is just /tg/ having a fit of autism.

the 3.5 chaos codex was notoriously o.p. and chaos hasn't really recovered after it got nerfed (justifiably) into the ground. there are still chaos players who get really salty about it.

as long as you don't act like a cunt, no one cares what you play.

>>54937629
How?

>>54937612
Nearly identical damage OC against up to t8 outside of melta range with full hit rerolls. Plasma is cheaper and better against infantry, but one will explode pretty regularly when you fire 20 shots and cost you 55 points. Ridiculously expensive unit btw, I'd look at obliterators instead.

>>54935521
Star Trek "redshirts" reference, presumably, character have similar scheme with blue and yellow.

>>54937475
He was complaining from the start anon and even when he was winning he still would not stop whining whenever we shot one of his beserkers or charged anything. And I think after the comeback we made we should be able to celebrate it.

>>54937598
>Disks with turret-mounted Heavy Weapons crewed by Tzaangors...

Hmmm. Unsure if works or not, but Tzaangor Enlightened / Shamans are an easy port.

>>54937708
Properly. Costed.

>>54937708
Dreads suck but guards are just paying tax for, put them with a warlord sanguinor.

>>54937459
I usually run butcher but I wanted a 48 inch gun. Cbeam is pretty solid for 30 pts, and I have had good luck with the blightbringer but I am going to take your advice there

>>54937739
In this day and age, using something good is waac

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>>54937155
>plague marines not in units of 7
Nurgle isn't satisfied with your list either

>>54937870
if I win it's because of my superior tactics, experience, game knowledge and above average intelligence.

if you win it's because you're using OP shit and are a friendless waacfag.

>>54937892
I can fix that by dropping the blightbringer so all will be well in the world

>>54935192
>he's more plasma now than man
>twisted and overheating

what's a good fluffy chapter for a terminator spam list? Possibly something I may have not heard about...
No gays/special snowflakes, thank you.

>>54935192
>Plasmagun fingers
Kekd hard

>>54937702
>conscripts
You are cancer