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FIRST FOR GRANDPA

Just got a SC Skaven box and the Skirmish/Path to Glory books, teach me aos, how do I rat?

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Reposting in fresh bread

Would the old (and best) Changeling model be ok to use as a Cairnwraith or some type of Necromancer? I'm thinking about selling my Tzeentch daemons. However, the old metal Changeling is legit one of my favorite models, so I want to keep it.

>>54927146
Well, you got a few options. Are you stinky rats?

>>54927180
I think so? It's the Skaven Pestilence starting box, I also got a Grey rat, I think? and the 2 runner guys from Silver Tower

>>54927146
Monks are beasts in Skirmish and the priest is pretty handy is such small games. Also Skaven Pestilens gonna get new allegiance abilities in the new GHB. If I were you, I would wait until GHB release to see what you benefit from new abilities and what you should buy next - maybe it would be worth to mix your rats with new nurgle daemons?

>>54927194
Oh I totally forgot, I got 2 Isle of Blood/Spire of Dawn boxes lying around, that's a TON of Skaven, if any of that is good for stuff

>>54927146
Want lots of rats. Plague monks are awesome in skirmish. A stormfiend is also good. Skirmish is nice because you're not bound by clan allegiance.
Pestilens is what I mainly use in regular play, but skryre is definitely stronger (even though stormies are going to be nerfed). Skryre and pestilens are about to get allegiance specific stuff.

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If you guys can, sign up help me keep it updated.

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Wait, is the snail man resin? I don't have the cash for forgeworld crap

>>54927146
Get a plague claw catapult
Get a vermin lord
Get Nurgle blight kings for allies

>>54927364
Just adding info from product description and warscrolls found on their website is a lot of help!

>>54927366
>forge world
>caring for anything else besides khorne

For real though, most of the rumour mill pics are in resin for some reason

>>54927170
my only concern with the metal one would be altering or removing that large tzeentch charm at his waist - not insurmountable for a determined modeller - otherwise replacing the staff top and chopping the extra arms would leave you with a very cool ghost/mage looking dude.

>>54927556

I don't know, I think the staff is a good scythe looking staff. It's not overtly Tzeentchy; it's more or less just a bird skull. The symbol is easy enough to change (kek).

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Could anons with experience with Skirmish tell me how they found it? How quick was it? Was it fun? Missed my local stores AoS night so hope to get something ready for next week. Going in with my Grots.

Sylva-Death anon here from last thread. How good are Spite-Revenants? I like the concept of them a lot more than the normal Tree-Revenants, and doing a Dreadwood Wargrove would be pretty cool with a mix of undead stuff in there. I figure Spirit Hosts make for a cool stand in if I make them look like the spirits are coming out of some sort of foliage, and likewise the Spite Revenants could easily make for spirit hosts.

What are some good third party minis that you use?

>>54927626
The games are quick, expect them to last around half an hour. I found them to be great fun. (I play grots as well)

>>54927626
Easy to learn and quick to play - something about ~40 minutes. If you have some other armies then you should build an extra warband or two and try to invite your friends - it's a great way to attract newbies

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Why the fuck would anyone willingly play grots? They are utter shit.

>>54928308
>Why would you play goblins? Orcs are so much more cool exdee
BECAUSE FUCK YOU

>>54928308
Fun, theme,fluff, a challenge. The gitmob arent so hot but moonclan can definately cause some damage.

>>54928308
Fun things are fun, Anon.

>>54928438
Gitmob can wreck shit. Take a block of 40 grots with bows and put sneaky stabbing on them
That 5+ 5+ - 1 bow just became a 3+ 4+ -1 1 bow. Now you have 40 of those.

>>54928427
>implying orcs are any better
They are both trash that should have been dropped from the setting
>>54928438
>>54928466
>losing the majority of your games
>fun

>>54928683
You appear to be bitter.

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So I'm finally getting around to round basing my High Aelf force. For heroes should I stick with the 25mm or bump them up to a 32mm?

>>54928308
Dude, a moonclan list just blew a major tournament away

Also, grots are funny

>>54927504
maybe it's a prototyping thing

>>54928683

>i'm an autist that cant have fun unless I powergame and constantly win

Do you enjoy ANY hobby you have, or does it always go back to calculating numbers?

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Is pic related just a sephia wash on white spray, with some green wash?

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>>54929463
>turns out this entire release is FW
>still no plastic greater daemon

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>tfw more stormcast

>>54927504
Internal teams get resin sculpts for painting

Plastic production happens after resin approval

Someone please call me a lazy shit so I can feel motivated to actually paint my Skaven

>>54927728

Bump? Would this be good for cross faction? I'm trying to think of what could count as what between Death and Sylvaneth

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>>54929961
Paint your shit you fucking faggot.
Put some music, Warhammer weekly or a podcast on and paint.
Its actually fun when you have something to listen to.

>>54930097
Thank you anon
Will post pics when I finally finish them

>>54929961
Hey faggot, nice greytide you got going on there.
did that help?

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>>54929961
I painted my skaven and I suck ass at it. You can too! No excuses

>>54927146
stormvermin can be a really fun way to play if you like their looks and the older lore. its a not very lethal looking model that can get force multipled really quickly and become very killy.

>>54930169
>>54930123
Thanks anons

>>54930097
That jade effect is nice anon.

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GW finally acknowledges the existence of freeguild in new box form. Thank fuck Gee Dubbz

>>54930896
>finally a freeguild box
>half of it is Stormcast
>Cheaper to buy Freeguild separate

>>54930896
>Finally acknowledges the existence of Freeguild
>Got their own book
>Several mentions in the Stormcast battletome

I mean, yeah, they're still horribly neglected, but this is hardly the first time the Freeguilds have come up.

>>54927590
I'd agree with this. The scythe/bird skull look feels appropriate for a ghost wizard.

>>54930896
Is that the official regimental scheme for Hammerhal?

Is anyone Prince and/or Emperor of Hammerhal?

>>54930896
who is that guy wielding a warhammer in the center?

>>54930896
>sce are the minority
This is how it should be

>>54931268
Some fag is already blogging that its a new model lol.
No its part of the Empire commander box.

A teaser clearly shows a female stormcast with no helmet.

>>54931268
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Empire-General

>>54927366
The sneak peek pictures are probably resin due to them probably being very easrly sculpts

>>54928308
>Why the fuck would anyone willingly play [insert any AoS faction here]? They are utter shit.

People play what they find fun to play Anon

>>54929613
Ask Games Workshop on Facebook, I am sure they will give you an answer

>>54930169
What colours did you use for the wood?

>>54932412

Brown

>Celestant Prime
>He was the most heroic of mankind’s champions, a great king and guardian of men from an age rapidly growing darker. When he was chosen as the first by Sigmar, the God-King poured into him a prodigious portion of divine might.
>Wields Ghal Maraz

Why won't they just say it's fucking Karl Franz? They own the IP for christ sakes

>>54927070
Is there an official map of the realms yet?

So, what exactly is an Ophidian Gateway? I'm thinking about a Dreadwood Grove and apparently they're relevant

>>54932714
No, but nothing is stopping you from making your own maps

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>>54930896
>Freeguild finally get their own box set.
>Clog it up with Stormcast

This shit is balls

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So I'm a 40k player, but as I was digging through my old stuff I came across my ancient Dogs of War army I briefly toyed with in Warhammer Fantasy. Tons of pikes, crossbows, and armored knights in a roughly roman theme.

Is there any way to use this in Age of Sigmar? Is there such a thing as a phalanx unit in this game?

>>54927366
Grand Cultivator of Nurgle, lad. And it's in plastic. Just an early model, they make them in resin first.

>>54932924
>>54931074

Stormcast are in every Grand City Box set, because they work as a Suppliment force for the Natives.

>>54932936
Freeguild guard.

>>54932936

Hop on the GW site and search Freeguild

>>54930097
>we will never get saurus warriors that look like this

>>54932692
Because it's not him. Karl Franz died before AoS. He existed in the old world. Sigmar didn't start taking up souls until long long long after the old world was destroyed and kingdoms rose and fell in the mortal realms.

It's not Karl Franz

>>54933431
Who is it then? Alcadizaar?

>>54933489
We don't know his name. He was just a great king of one of the biggest human kingdoms in the mortal realms during the age of chaos, where the mortal realms were being conquered by chaos

>>54933431
but the mortal realms were fucking destroyed when the Old World was destroyed, this timeline makes no sense!

>>54933593
What are blathering about? The mortal realms, i.e. the eight realms of magic, only arose after the world was reshaped.

>>54933593
What are you on about? The winds of magic formed into the mortal realms during end times, then the old world was destroyed. Sigmar found the mortal realms later and helped build up and guide civilisations toward progress.

>>54933672
>>54933631
So there are these VAST EXPANSES OF TIME that we know NOTHING ABOUT

Literally just BTW, MILLIONS OF YEARS PAST AND A BUNCH OF STUFF HAPPENED AND CHAOS WON AGAIN :^)

For What Purpose?

Just got my lord of change in the mail today, I've never built such a large or complex model before, any suggestions for building/transporting greater daemon sized stuff for the noob before I even open it?

>>54933780
Magnetize wings and other parts that stick out. Get a large shoebox and stuff it with paper towels.

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>>54932714
There are a few map in some of the battletomes
But like this Anon says >>54932873 Just make your own, just like I have done

>>54933736
Because worlds need time to develop?

>>54933780
Be sure to magnetize the wings, the model is a bitch to transport even with out them, but it makes things easier.

Allegiance: Seraphon (with the new GBH)
Skink Priest (100)
- Priestly Trappings
10 x Skinks (80)
- Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (80)
- Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
3 x Ripperdactyl Riders (140)
Stegadon (260)
Troglodon (200)
Shadowstrike Starhost (120)

Total: 980/1000

Any recommendations?

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>>54933968

>>54933978
Does the new GHB change any point costs?
For seraphon specifically?

>>54933976
Why could they not have just said there were other worlds, parallel to the old world, fighting their own War with chaos?

>>54934034
Because who gives a shit about other worlds? The old world was wiped out, saying there were other worlds out there lessenes the effect to being irrelevant in the greater scope of things.

>>54928838
Have your heroes been reboxed? If yes then take a look on GW site. If no, then go 25mm

>>54934018
Looking at the Skirmish book, it seems that:

Starpriest is cheaper:100>80
Terradon Riders are cheaper: 140>120
Skinks are cheaper: 80>60

No confirmation though, but if you do the reverse math on those renown costs, it does imply that. We'll have to see, would be helpfull, since with just a few deductions I could fill in those last 20 points and swap out a monster for a more expensive one.

>>54934087
You could say the same thing about the Mortal realms, who gives a shit about them?

If we were fighting to restore or reclaim the old world that would be awesome, but it was blown to bits.

>>54933896
>>54933976
just a couple of 2mm magnets should do it? I don't have any other drill-bits that I think would fit in the wings, so I'd have to just leave the wings off until next week or something

Thanks for the heads up about the wings, I was kinda hoping I'd get away with not magnetising them, but in the 40k thread I got told to magnetise them as well, so it seems like it'd be stupid not to

>>54934103
Not him anon but besides the RPG and Blood Bowl, the Old World is gone. Let it go man.

>>54934240
I know! I just...

I miss her ok?

It didn't have to be like this. Age of Sigmar could've had more to do with the old days! It didn't have to be a complete divorce

>>54927780
Raging Heroes. They have a line of elves called blood vestals that I use for witch aelves. They're sexier and a bit cheaper than them, too.

>>54934266
If its of any consolation anon, some smart chap posted a pretty rad website to make your own maps. If there is one nice bit about having such a broad spectrum, you can literally carve out your own place tidily in any realm as they are described as their own settings in and of themselves. Plus its not out there to have a chaos sorcerer or a goblin to crack open a portal to enter another realm.

For me the reason i dont mind is: its like a home. A home is not made up by the property but more so the people living in it. We still have our fave armies, just the locations are different.

>>54934317
I think that was me in the previous thread right?
I made these two >>54933968 >>54933984 using a website called inkarnate.com

>>54934340
Yeah, thanks for that. I an gonna fiddle with my own map today, cant wait!

>>54934444
Be sure to share it later, I am cuirous to see what you can come up with

I miss karl

So what rulebooks do you need to start AoS?

>>54934226
Yeah 2 mm should do the trick, although I'd suggest you dry fit them first and see how it works.

>>54934613
Core rules and General's Handbook. Skirmish book will be handy for small games. Everything is in OP post

>>54934613
The rules are only 4 pages long and a free, but if you want to get into more narrative and matched play with points, etc then you just need the Generals Handbook

>>54934226
2mm will be to small and weak imo - I'm using them for bits like arms but for wings you have to use at least 3mm

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>>54934582

Guys what if they bring back Skarsnik?

>>54931250
Hammerhal is actually ruled by two different councils, one for Hammerhal Aqsha and another for Hammerhal Ghyra. That, though, could be retconned with the upcoming novella by J Reynolds.

TL:DR Hammerhal is Marienburg's daughter.

>>54934737
WARLORD OF EIGHT PEAKS

Having escaped the destruction of the old world by riding on the back of Gork (or Mork) the now destitute Goblin boss was stranded in the new realms of magic.

Someone else continue Skarsnik's story.

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Chaos Focus for the GH2 should be today.

Hyped!

>>54934266
You're a retard. No, seriously, this string of comments of yours is pure and undilluted autism.

>>54927626

quick and fun. If you really get into it and have a cool partner you can easily play the campaign in the book in 2 hours

>>54928838
These are the laziest paint jobs ever.

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>A classic model is returning to Forge World – today, you can get your hands on the Rogue Idol once more!
>Cast in the image of Gorkamorka, this megalithic monster is a great centrepiece to any army of Orruks. It’s a powerful unit on the tabletop, too, crushing enemies with a hail of high-powered attacks and providing handy bonuses for nearby units.

>>54935056
>Moonclan in background

Well I know what I am adding to my army. Where is the second head though?

>>54934737
>>54934786
He had a pretty ambigious (but positive) closing chapter in Fantasy. Carrying Gobbla's dead body on a platform with the remaining Goblins, he vanished into the mountains. Regardless if they bring him back that is arguably one of the best endings of any character in Fantasy. Plus his legacy lives on as Giant Cave Squigs and massive magic sticks seem to be the norm now.

>>54935074
They have Greenskinz keyword, even through they synergize with both grot and orruk wizards.

>>54933978
>Any recommendations?
Dont run Shadowstrike in 1000 points
Dont run Shadowstrike without 6+ ripperdactyls
Skinks are worse than you think
Troglodons suck

>>54932936
damn those old perry sculpts still hold up pretty well

should I arm my skellingtons with spears or swords?

>>54935290
If you run them in small groups of 10-20 then swords should be fine
If you run them in blocks of 30+ then take spears

>>54935290
Big block = spears
Battleline tax squad = swords

>>54935193
Okay, well judging by the Skirmish book, there are some point decreases coming which should allow me to replace the Troglodon with a Bastilodon.

My meta isn't super competitive and shadowstrike is the only 'skink' battalion, I don't want to run Saurus at all

>>54932412
dryad bark
wash with agrax earthshade
drybrush with 1-2 lighter browns.

>>54935356
>well judging by the Skirmish book
Poor assumption

Skirmish doesnt use faction allegiances (ie Stormcast, Sylvaneth, etc.) so its balanced around a different ruleset than Matched Play

>>54935403
>so its balanced around a different ruleset
Kek, no.

It's just a formula that translate points into renown.

No real balancing, just an excel file.

GH2 pdf leaked when?

>>54935417
Exactly, and according to my calculations skinks should now be:

>Starpriest is cheaper:100>80
>Terradon Riders are cheaper: 140>120
>Skinks are cheaper: 80>60 or 50

>>54935417
If it was just a formula then there would be no difference between points and renown after resolving the formula. Obviously that's not the case because there are differences - some units cost more, some cost less.

The reason is that Skirmish is balanced around a specific set of rules and does not include faction-specific bonuses from allegiances. Those bonuses make some units more/less powerful than what their warscrolls state, which means their point costs will be different. Matched Play is balanced around those bonuses.

Furthermore, we have no idea if any of the people that write the GHB are involved in any way with the Skirmish supplement. There is also months of time between Skirmish and GHB, which can lead to any number of changes. We have no idea what the internal production of GW looks like and trying to draw conclusions about the next GHB from Skirmish is a poor assumption.

If you don't understand this then you're an idiot.

>>54935481
I'm not even gonna answer to such blatant autism.

You are seeing way more than there is to it.

>>54935481
Or, the renown costs were already calculated based on the new point costs of the units in the GBH 2017. Since people ran calculations on the new Fyreslayer point costs, and it all matched up.

>>54935575
Or theyre not, for all the reasons I already stated

They could be. We dont know for sure, and trying to claim otherwise is pointless

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>>54935587
Not him, but what are you suggesting is:
1) It's either a massive work for a 8€ supplement, that involved careful balancing based on faction specific bonuses, and it's only a coincidence all of them coincide with the points we know and expect from the new GH
2) A simple point conversion from the GH2

And you think they are equally credible hypothesis, so much that this allow you to be a dismissive asshole with the whole thing?

>>54935587
And never was it stated as 100% confirmed new lizardmen point costs. But there is some basis for these assumptions.

Now, I'm very sorry you had to find out that Skirmish was just calculated by a formula instead of a Special Task Force for Design, but unless you prove to me that any unit doesn;t follow that formula, please kindly stop calling people idiots.

But I guess you prefer Stormcast vs Freeguild discussions and 'Aelves when' posts over speculation and interaction with new cool army lists people are cooking up

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>>54930097

>>54935640
>1) It's either a massive work
I never said that. Changing skirmish values is very trivial, usually a difference of only 1 or 2 renown. With very limited playtesting they could see some units were underperforming or overperforming and decrease/increas etheir renown costs.
>and it's only a coincidence all of them coincide with the points we know and expect from the new GH
I never denied that they used a formula, just that trying to claim the formula is 100% based on GHB2 is a poor assumption because there are numerous factors that easily disprove the assumption. It's far more likely that they based it off GHB1 and then modified it to suit the Skirmish ruleset.

>>54935664
>And never was it stated as 100% confirmed new lizardmen point costs
Maybe you should learn to read:
>Okay, well judging by the Skirmish book, there are some point decreases coming which should allow me to replace the Troglodon with a Bastilodon.

>but unless you prove to me that any unit doesn;t follow that formula
We don't know any values from GHB17 (even the Fyreslayer points were only a PREVIEW and not FINAL and thus inadmissible evidence) so this is an impossible task.
Which scenario is more likely:
A. Skirmish is based on current GHB1 point costs and then slightly modified to balance the game for its new ruleset
B. Skirmish is based on the points in GHB2 which account for 20 new allegiance abilities, massive regiments, new units, new artifacts, new spells, new rules, new command traits... and are likely not finalized 3-5 months before release, which is approximately when Skirmish would have been written.
Answer: A

>please kindly stop calling people idiots.
First day on 4chan? Fuck off nigger faggot

>>54933489
>Alcadizaar?

He died before Karl Franz.
The Celestant-Prime is some king from the mortal realms, not the world that was.

>>54934786
He now rides a giant ass Squig and is now known as the Foot of Mork :^)

>>54935849
I would be ok with this so long as the giant squig was Gobbla returned.

Any good ideas for models I can use to convert into winged heavy plate vampire soldiers as counts as vargheists

>>54936010
>>54936010
What about Prosecutors?

>>54936010
Scourges might also work, although they are a lot finer in appearance. However, they might look good with Dragon Princes that are Blood Knight proxies.

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>>54934799
Here it is

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/18/conquering-for-chaos-in-the-generals-handbook-2017-aug-18gw-homepage-post-4/

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>>54936089
>Slaanesh get 3 allegiance abilities

Now me fluff my Host as Seekers has an impact.
I'm so happy!

O-)-c

>>54936089
So would the strength in numbers rule also count for allied clanrats in a Skryre force? They don't have the keyword, but your force is still counted as SKAVEN SKRYRE. I guess we'll find out when the full rules for the allies are known.

if not, it's a very pointless rule for Skryre, unless they bring out a new Acolyte kit+Warscroll.

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>>54936141
>Slaanesh armies can now take Hellstriders of Slaanesh and Seeker Chariots of Slaanesh as Battleline units

Now I feel so good having bought 2 boxes of Hellstriders and 3 Seeker Chariots because 50% discount.

>>54936141
Jesus Christ the new daemonettes look hideous.

Joke rules are making a bit of a comeback, judging by the Invaders!

>>54936089
I'm disappointed with Skryre part. I'm currently running a tri-clan army and these new abilities give me nothing to even consider going full-skryre

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>>54936089
Hmm, not bad.

>>54936289
That's fan art.

I wish they were so gloriously demonic

>>54936323
Invaders seems brutal.

Slaanesh have some of the best Command Abilities.

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>unit of 40
Kek

>>54927237
Hey dude, so here's what you have possibly.

A greyseer
A plague priest
Either a screaming bell or a plague furnace
20 monks
60-80 clanrats
2 plague wind mortars
2 warp fire throwers
2 engineers
2 warlords
2 deathrunners
4 rat ogres
2 packmasters

Here is what I would do

Choose what clan of skaven you like best out of Verminus, Pestilence & skryre. Build up towards either of those clans.

For Verminus, it's simple, you need 2 boxes of Storm vermin. From this you will get 20 storm vermin and a flag to convert one of your warlords to a chieftain with Battlestandard. You will also be able to run the clan Verminus Battalion since it requires 3 units of clan rats, 3 weapon teams, a unit of Storm vermin and a warlord.

Look for synergies is the main piece of advice I will give you.

>>54936295
A fluff justification for a rule and a joke rule are two very different thing.

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>>54936372
Wrong pic, though the living cyst seems funny

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>>54936372
>>54936089
>MFW Everything

FUCK YES i wanted armywide Strength in numbers for skaven since day one, that's a great rule and offsets losing the Crown of command, but these artifacts look great. Verminlord's shooting out prayers AND magic is going to be great. If they just give us something to grant him some melee rend this update will be perfect.

>>54936392
I run 30 man Monk units, you'll drop to less than that quickly of course, but consistent 2/4+ Bravery and 1+ for the furnace they push is going to be mental. Hell i might just start taking 40 rat packs

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>>54936452
I use 20s. I hope we see some sort of bo us for monks too. They mention something like that

Horde armies can fuck off
>just wait while I move my 200 dudes ok lol
Why promote this shit

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>>54936528
M O V I N G
T R A Y S

Now where did the mean rats touch you anon?

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>>54932936

Freeguild Guard

>>54930896
HELL FUKKEN YEA


Guys I wanna make my guard look more barbaric, what sets are out there to combine with besides marauders? I was thinking Freeguild arms, marauder shields + heads and flagellant bodies. I wanna make a more ragtag-looking squad of guardsmen.

Would like to eventually work out an entire army of this. If funds permitted.

>>54936452
I doubt we're going to get rend on him since he already has a prayer now.

>>54936089
>no army-wide Strength in Numbers for Verminus units

Oh well, at least the Warlord can still babysit his rats with the Crown.

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>>54936466
I can imagine an artifact maybe for movement, wouldn't expect the warscoll to change. What we really need is a Flail Artifact for priests to hold that helps Censer bearers specifically those guys need a buff more than anything

>>54936528
Horde play has always been the way of Pestilens son, stay mad.
>>54936607
Could be an Artifact though, i assume everyone gets 6. Even something as simple as just "This model improves it's rend by -1" would be nice so he can fight things with a save but i won't hold my breath.

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>>54936680
He's always been more of a caster though

>>54936452
Heres my reworked 2k point list. Just had to remove a priest and rearrange my monks after adding 10 more

>>54936757
I've never seen the Foulrain used, i only own 2 Plagueclaws. Is it worth the 180-odd tax? also remember Monks get both musicians and banners, you have all 4 and pick one of the Word-Bringer items (the reroll wound one is nice)

>>54936808
Yup. I know monks get it all. Warscroll builder won't let me put that though (even though it's allowed). The foulrain makes for the most effective artillery a pestilens army can have.

>>54927070
Should I play this game instead of Warhammer 40k?

>>54936881
Maybe? It's up to you. Both games have their merits. It really comes down to what army you find cool between the two.

>>54936881
Why not both? Pick a daemon army and play both AoS and 40k

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>chaos are actually going to be a threat again

It's time for Sigmar to unleash another Chamber

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>those Slaves to Darkness traits

I said I would remain loyal to Gork (and Mork) but goddamn these are looking tight!

>>54933984
Awesome man. I discovered this last night via your link and I've been up all night playing with it making maaaaaaaaaaaaaaps. thanks man

Primaris Stormcast when?

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>>54937067
Good meme

>>54936881
40K has a slightly better ruleset, but really, it comes down to which army you like the look of.

>>54936881
Tanks and jets are gay

>>54935056
>A classic model

>Not the chaos mammoth

FUCK THAT PILE OF SHIT
WHERE'S NORSCA CROSS PROMOTION?
WHERE'S THE BOAT?

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*skeletal screeching*

>>54936881
Do you like sci fi with fantasy aspects, or bonified high fantasy? That answers your question

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>>54936289
I dont understand why many people are against them having beauty and not just looking ugly.

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>>54937247
>tomb kinks
You disgrace the rattlebones name

>>54937358
Its not my fault the tomb kikes provide the best deathrattle force multipliers anon, and what pther way would i be able to crush my opposition beneath cold unfeeling undead chariots?

>>54937247
Are tomb kangz even getting points in GH2

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>>54937392
Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Wight King with Baleful Tomb Blade (120)
- General
- Trait: Ruler of the Night
Wight King with Black Axe (120)
- Artefact: Something, probably tomb blade, or cloak of mists and shadows for movement
Necromancer (120)

Battleline
20 x Skeleton Warriors (160)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
20 x Skeleton Warriors (160)
- Ancient Spear & Shield

Units
5 x Hexwraiths (160)

Total: 840/1000

You can summon more hexwraiths or 20 more bonemen

>>54937418
Not in the book itself, but a seperate release apparently

>>54937470
Not true. Their points are getting increased in ghb2

>>54937491
If memory serves right they are getting the forgeworld points treatment.

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>>54937421
>not taking settra and tomb kings to buff up your deathrattle units to strech your opponents assholes in the combat phase

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>>54937517
Tomb cucked

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>>54937525
>using an oop army to shit on opponents

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Hey guys, Dogs of War anon again.

I dredged up all the models I could find and took inventory, looks like I have 50 of the greek-looking pikes, 25 of the leopard company pikes, 24 heavy cavalry, plus a few of the big shield crossbows and heavy armored pikes. Real shame on these last since I love the models but apparently only ever bought 6 of them. I think the massive feather plumes turned me off when I was young. I also have the light cannon guy who rode around limbering and unlimbering his artillery.

Anyways, is this a sizable force for AoS? You guys mentioned these models could be used with Freeguilds, but I only see spears as an option for them...are pikes not a thing in this game? I was hoping for a kind of greek phalanx style of play with them.

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>>54937548
>not kitbashing settra and tomb kings from existing models

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>>54937582
That's not very humerus of you...

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>>54937582
Gothic skeles>Egypt skeles

If you've made a gothic settra, do post. I would love to see this.

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>>54937597
>getting defensive
>when you play skeletons

>>54937632
Wait that actually sounds sick as fuck

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>>54937636
Ayyy I was just looking for an excuse to use that pun. If they look good, and you like em, then go for it

I need advice /aosg/. I'm going to play tomorrow against SC with Sylvaneth. We are going to use battle plan where both players have a objective to defend while trying to attack the other one. Problem is that I've never played against SC. Should I divide my army in two, one side for offence and one for defence? Normally I go full offence with two units of kurnoth hunters, one with swords and one with scythes supported by TL ancient. Do SC players use alot of movement shenenigans or do they have good backline hunting forces? What are the weaknesses of SC, do they even have one?

>>54937666
I would say SCE instead of SC. I thought you were about to waac a new player's starter box into the dirt until about half way down

>>54928308
>>54928427
Same reason someone would play IG over SM

>>54936604
Kairic Acolytes

>>54937678
Oh, you are right. For some reason I have always thought they are referred as stormcasts, aka. SC, I'll refer them correctly from now on. Thanks!

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>thread is a day old
>no obligatory soon
Fuck ive been slacking

>>54937247
>NEIGH NEIGH

Dead army, dead alliance.

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>>54937846
>death
>dead
Correct

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>>54936323
Finally!

>>54937013
Care to show your maps Anon?

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>>54937582
>needing to convert when you can use the GW metal liche king

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>>54938045

Just something I threw together. No real rhyme or reason

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>>54938118
reminder this is the best model of all time

>>54937517
Have fun being the guy the store manager barely tolerates coz he doesn't buy plastic haha.

>>54937834
Ah yes, ruling all of nothing since you don't exist.

>>54938206
>implying settra hasnt killed all four major chaos gods and taken rule over the realm of chaos at large
>implying settra hasnt been raising legions of undead in the immeterium in such numbers it gets Nagesh hot and bothered just thinking about it
>implying settra isnt the endgame

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>>54938283
>endgame
Good one mate

>>54937666
I would suggest keeping a weaker or expendable unit back on the objective and move full forward with the rest of the army. MAYBE a second unit to support the remaining unit back. As normally you'll both be trying to capture the middle objective. Good luck regardless.

>>54937353
elitism, muh special club mentality, etc.

>>54938136
Looks good to me Anon, keep at it!

>>54937567

...h-hello? anyone?

>>54937567
>>54938861
It sounds good on paper anon but you need to decide what exactly you would like them to represent. Check up the Freeguild Warscrolls to get an idea but it seems more than sizeable, certainly for a 1k point AOS army.

However the new General's Handbook (points and army distribution) is coming out soon, so maybe wait for that to get an idea. However the Freeguild Warscrolls will remain unaltered so check there.

There is also the Warscroll builder in the OP which lets you construct an army list from nothing, so that can help you gauge what units will be suitable.

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>>54937689
Or free peoples over stormcast

>>54937689
Because you're an autistic piece of shit who likes spouting memes about being the underdog and MANLY HUMANITY FUCK YEAH XD?

>>54939326
>projecting your own shitposting

>>54937247
Zero Rend: The Army

2/10

Protip: If your army is beaten by Saurus Guard then your army sucks

>>54939509
People who don't realize that are either delusional IG players or just never met one of them.

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>>54938382
>literally nurgle

>>54938922

No pikes or phalanx, then, by the sound of it. Ok, thanks. I'm not sure just running spears is what I want to do if I get into this game.

>>54939605
Maybe some people just think it's cool to have the classic thing without a lot of embellished overcompensating gimicks?

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>>54939632
The difference is nurgle's infantry and cavalry can do that, plus for the GUO, on the ill of a 6, the attacker takes a wound

>>54939580
>implying im making this list to be the end all be all opieop list
>when im not even using necro knights
>loses to guard
>after one round of shooting and charging half of the guard is already dead
>the guard kill 2 chariots throughout the whole combat
>both of which come back

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>>54939733
Spears are plenty good. 2" range is significant to have.
Also, without exact numbers it's difficult to work out a functional army, especially with the GHB2 inbound, but this doesn't look horrible. Could probably do with a little more ranged threat, but it'd work.

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>>54940036
>implying settra would give nurgle the honor of taking his most powerful boons
>implying settra didnt leave a fragment of nurgle remaining and crafted it into this brooch

>>54940379
>after one round of shooting and charging half of the guard is already dead

How does this happen against a 2+ rerollable save?

Oh, I think I figured it out You're retarded

>>54939326
>if you're not transhumanist or hate humanity you're autistic

>>54940379
Are necro knights that good? I got a sealed box of them and idk which ones to use. The stalkers look cool without the skeletons on them, which ones should I use? I only have a necrosphinx, one liche priest and a tomb king. Going to pick up some skeletons to use as battleline

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>You can replace your hero with a Daemon Prince without paying reinforcement points

I don't even play StD, but that's pretty cool

>>54940952
>play tzeentch slaves
>use destiny dice battle trait
>use this particular slaves ability
>use destiny dice to get 12
>upgrade any hero to daemon prince

huehuehue

>>54940952
Eh yeah sounds fun but not that powerful. I'll be playing a fluffy list when they come out for this kind of fun dumb shit

>>54940992
>get fucked in the ass because you just waited two or one sixes in destiny dices for a unit which isn't that strong anyway and can't attack for the rest of your turn so it' probably going to be shot at/charged anyway

>>54940992
>use two allegiance abilities
Brilliant, that'll work out well.

>>54941076
Use the various spells and artefacts to fish for 6s on destiny dice

It's not going to be a meta defining playstyle but it should be fun

>>54941119
Why not? You can mix and match for whatever you are eligible to use.

You can still only pick one Battle Trait, one Command Trait, and one Artefact, but you can use whichever ones are valid for your army.

>>54940992
>use two allegiances at the same time
>waste two Destiny Dice of 6
>get a garbage Tzeentch DP that's worth twice the points of the faction's cheapest hero
Making mad plays, I see.

How does the setting work with just 'regular dudes'.

Isn't it like, 8 magical realms filled with monsters and such. Doesn't seem like the sort of fantasy that lends itself to world-building, just lots of big armies and CRAZY stuff.

>>54941168
Yes, and ONE allegiance ability.

>>54941198
Do we really need to go over this every fucking thread? Multiple times?

>>54941168
>Meanwhile, the Eye of the Gods allegiance ability can transform any Chaos Hero in your Slaves to Darkness into a powerful Daemon Prince with a lucky roll – or, if you’re unlucky, a gibbering Chaos Spawn
It's a allegiance ability, of which you can only have one for obvious reasons.

>>54941198
>>54939326

>>54941168
>anon has no clue how the rules work

Am i allowed to put a lfg here?

>>54941168
>Use the various spells and artefacts to fish for 6s on destiny dice
Oh, that's super, waste more resources on a 160pts beatstick.
Even if it were legal it wouldn't be useful.

>>54941227
>It's a allegiance ability, of which you can only have one for obvious reasons.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Allegiance Ability means

Your army can be Stormcast Allegiance but still pick bonuses from the Order allegiance

If this was not the case then any army that uses Battleline-if X units would not be able to benefit from their grand alliance allegiance bonuses

>>54940932
Atm theyre the best unit in the death aligence for their points

>>54941227
>Why do new people keep playing the game and trying to post in this thread REEEEEEEE FUCK OFF NEW PEOPLE!!!!

>>54941234
>>54941198
Meh I don't know much about AoS aside from osmisis and seeing people at my LGS get introduced to it.

Some models look cool, but I'm not really sure I could get invested in the setting if there are no stakes and nothing to relate to.

>>54940932
They are arguably the best unit in the entire game right now. The entire competitive meta is shaped by Necropolis Knights and Thundertusks. Aetherstrike is a response to Necro Knights.

Before any buffs they're already way more valuable than their point cost would indicate (they cost 160 and are strictly better than a lot of units that cost 240+). Then you add in the buffs that they can get (Deathrattle is the best keyword in the game) and they become unstoppable murder machines

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>>54941306
Okay, let me rephrase that: You can only have one Battle Trait as part of your allegiance. Both Eye of the Gods and Destiny Dice are Battle Traits. Thus you cannot have both. Am I clear now?
Also, fuck you for making me look this up.

>>54941345
>Why do new people keep refusing to just read the fucking books instead of wanting to be spoonfed?

>>54941306
Great, now tell me how many SCE armies have both Defiant Avengers and Scions of the Storm, or how many Beastclaw Raiders have both Rampaging Destroyers and Everwinter's Blessing? None? What a shocker.

>>54941306
While you are right about the ability to pick and choose between shit from the allegiances you still cannot have two abilities at the same time.

>>54941526
Destiny Dice is the Tzeentch Battle Trait
This Slaves ability is (probably) not the battle trait since the article just calls it an "allegiance ability"

>>54941386
Then fuck off

>>54941507
Show me the part of the article that explicitly stated that Eye of the Gods was the Battle Trait

I'll wait

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How many battle traits do I get? Is pestilens going to force me to pick between a bravery boost skryre has and the plagues?

>>54941387
But knights are 240 points per unit in the new General's handbook. Since it comes out next week and I get the last models I need next week I really want to get a point efficient army

>>54941576
You can pick 1 Battle Trait for your army to use, but you can pick any Battle Trait from any Allegiance you qualify for

So for example you can run a Beastclaw Allegiance army but still pick the Destruction Battle Trait

>>54941602
>plague rats get cucked again
Well fuck me

>>54941426
I've always wished there were allegiances for more keywords, like if every model in your grand alliance list has the MORTAL keyword you could choose to use MORTAL abilities instead of ORDER/CHAOS/DESTRUCTION/DEATH/<FACTION>

>>54941549
Allegiance ability is common shorthand for the Battle Trait even in these threads, chances are Eye of the Gods is the same. I mean, what else would it be? Artifact? Command Trait? It's too elaborate and wordy for either, especially since the article specifically mentions that any hero in your army can benefit from this.

>>54941600
>But knights are 240 points per unit in the new General's handbook.
While the preview is probably still accurate, we don't know this for sure. There has been a lot of discussion in the pro scene (and they have direct ties to GW - look for ironjaw point cuts for most of their units!) that the tomb king nerfs were too heavy handed and might be toned back.

Regardless, even at 240 they're still god tier units. Their damage and defenses are top notch in the right army. TK are still going to be defining the meta, but they won't be oppressively crushing games and warping the meta like they are now.

>>54941617
Not necessarily. Up until now, all allegiances have only had 1 BT. I think anon means you have to pick your allegiance to take the traits from, and then you get the associated traits. Otherwise there's no point in even playing pestilens.

>>54941650
Ironjawz lower points? Are we talking major drop or just slight?

>>54941620
That is precisely what the GBHII will have.

>>54941576
Yes, you get to choose one and only one.

>>54941569
There sure are many relics or command traits that "can transform any Chaos Hero in your [army]", right?

>>54941623
>Allegiance ability is common shorthand for the Battle Trait
No it isnt

The article even uses the phrase Battle Trait when talking about Slaneesh. If it was the BT then they would have called it as such.

>what else would it be? Artifact? Command Trait?
Yes, either of those. This ability only effects Heroes and battle traits are typically army-wide bonuses while Artefacts and CTs only effect heroes.

>>54941650
Oh alright. I'll see what do to then. Sphinx went up by just 40 points iirc, hopefully they don't get fucked up too much.
I really hoped they would have their own allegiance rules but I can't have anything, guess the death ones will do

>>54941617
Why? It's the same for everybody else.

>>54941729
They were already terrible to begin with. No save and slow as fuck with low bravery? Nice. Now the only way to improve them screws them

So when are they actually releasing this stupid book? I was told it was supposed to be on pre order this week

>>54941786
Their allegiance ability covers that and you get a nice prayer bonus on top of that, what more do you fucking want? Terminator armor?

>>54941855
Preorder tomorrow, supposedly. Which means we'll have the values by Tuesday at the latest.

>>54941786
Are you perhaps stupid?

>>54941918
What's their AA? I only see two battle traits

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>>54941949
Probably. It's just salt built up from playing nothing but beastclaw, stormcast, and one tzeentch player

>>54941936
Values? Like points?

>>54942034
Feel ya. Playing against tzeentch is the most unfunny thing ever. Oh wow you just summoned a bale wind vortex and autosniped the strongest character in my army from the other side of the field on turn one by using destiny dice. How fun.
At least you can put up a fight with Beastclaw raiders and it's all fun before they club you to death

>>54942053
Basically everything, yeah. There are a couple of anons that get their stuff on Tuesday, but chances are that most of it will be leaked over the weekend anyway.

>>54930896
will these only be limited?

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>>54942154
limited for a time, so will probably be around for 6ish months.

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>>54942018
TWO battle traits (rare already), relics such as these and, presumably, command traits. You get plenty.

>>54942224
We can only use one of the battle traits

>>54937567
They're not really that Greek, they're wearing late medieval barbute helmets.

>>54942261
You still get one more to choose from than anyone else

Why are skaven players always such entitled faggots

>>54942286
Not true. A Tzeentch mortal army can choose from 3, same for the other gods (except nurgle). Wouldn't be surprised if orruks also got that treatment

>>54942286
Eh, not all of us. I'm pretty happy with the skryre stuff

>>54942286
Because they're used to plonking down 200 rats and 3 Warp Lightning Cannons and being handed the game on a silver platter and that doesn't work anymore, so they're pissy now.

>>54942286
Wait until the elves get their book

>>54942286
>>54942261
Do any of you knuckledraggers actually read the fucking rules? You get all Battle Traits associated with your allegiance, you just can't mix those between allegiances.
>Clan Pestilens
Either Allegiance Pestilens or Allegiance Chaos
That means, you get to pick *either* the Chaos battle trait, Unpredictable Destruction, or the Pestilens battle traits.

>>54942423
>implying it ever worked

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>>54942517
Can you mix chaos artifacts with let's say a slaanesh trait and SoD command abilities (are we getting command abilities with this?)

Also, where do you see anything indicating that reddit rats get both of their traits at the same time?

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OH BOI, LOOK AT THESE BUNDLES

>>54943109
Hah, they took down the NZ pre-orders page

>>54943109
>Jamie's Destruction Allies

What?

>>54943109
How much in real dollars?

>>54943140
If its Australian Dollars in the screenshot, likely cut the price in two.

>>54943109
Buying:
GHB 2017
Warherds
Deathrattle

>>54943109
I so gonna get the new handbook and the warherds box so I can bolster my brayherd army!

>>54943109
>warscroll cards
Great, just another thing for non battletome factions to bitch over
>ironjawz get cards
What about fyreslayers, everchosen, pestilens, and flesh eaters

When using bullgors, what is best to use; dual weapons or a single great axe?

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Fug, I gonna buy open war cards, Nighthaunt Tormented Spirits box and Clan Skyre allies box. Thank God I have a spare kidney

Does anyone else wish we could get a gargant for a major character? Or at least more reoccurring characters? I feel like a lot (almost all) of the characters in the setting are just the leaders of their GA's army. I want to see guys like krell

>>54943229
They're only getting theirs now because they're the destruction poster boys. The rest will follow

>>54943109
Does this mean a new plastic weapon team?

>>54943363
Sadly no info about this

>You’ll receive:
>- A Warp-Grinder Weapon Team, a single miniature featuring 2 Skaven wielding a huge drill;
>- a set of 3 Stormfiends, armed with a choice of ratling cannon, grinderfists, doomflayer gauntlets, shock gauntlets, warpfire projectors or windlaunchers.

Spire of dawn weapon teams are plastic so maybe this one is too

>>54942810
If your army has all the necessary keyword allegiances, i.e. Chaos, Slaanesh and Slaves to Darkness, then, yes, you can mix and match.

There is no reason to assume you don't get both. Kharadron sorta get more than one trait (after a fashion) and it's not like the two traits are even vaguely equal in terms of power.

>>54943278
That Skryre box is just a no-discount bundle, don't bother.

>>54943324
Well there was that Gargant King from Godbeasts... shame his rules are campaign-only and illegal in Matched.

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>The rumour was KoD box will cost 100 USD
>On NZ page it costs 135 kiwi dollars while a start collecting box costs 165 kiwi dollars
We have been cheated

>>54943275
Very equal. If they had any attack-count buffs, two-hand weapons would win hands down, but they don't. The shields are very meh, as well. In the end, I'd go for the two-hand weapons simply for the additional Rend.

The only thing you really have to keep in mind is to keep them close to a Doombull because his Command makes their Bloodgreed more effective.

>>54943363
>>54943399
Looks pretty clearly like the Spire of Dawn Warpgrinder to me desu

>>54943674
Anon, there is no warpgrinder in spire of dawn box

>>54943630
I'm happy it turned out wrong. These are basically Start Collecting boxes in all but name now (except for Mages and Giants, both of which still perplex me).

>>54943696
Huh. Damn, you're right. I could have sworn the Warpgrinder was plastic and the Warpflame Thrower has metal. Okay, genuinely curious now.

>>54943715
Yeah, that's okay but I have already spend all my warhammer reichsmarks on T'au stuff

>>54943752
They're totally going to be putting a metal model in that box. The "name's" bundle will be online only limited time at no discount (me thinks). Just from a battle report or stream.

The Warherds one I pre-ordered ASAP at 105 (after tax) maple dollars

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>>54944788
His sword is fucking huge, god damn

>>54944788
Wait, is it deja vu or we saw these minis and cards already?

>>54944788
It's almost like... I've seen this somewhere

>>54944836
Weve seen them unpainted

NEW THREAD
>>54944935
>>54944935
>>54944935
NEW THREAD

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>>54944788
>More Stormcast