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Warhammer 40k /40kg/: Admech are the new Orkz/Tyranids edition.

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>>>54898241

>Necromunda is returning, much to sister player's butthurt
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/

>Konor Campaign: Chaos keeps losing and even GW begging can't help it. Lost again!
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>Check your local store's contribution to the Campaign. Hell, maybe you'll even play (no you won't)
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
>Codex: Space Marines FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/10/codex-space-marines-errata-now-available/
>Codex: Chaos Space Marine supplement for Daemons, Thousand Sons and Death Guard players
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/daemons-and-thousand-sons-in-codex-chaos-space-marines-aug-13gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf & epub, SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
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>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing the Emperor's work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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First for Waluigi Orks
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Rate my shitty list. Dropped most of gun drones for shield drones and support turrets for more fire warriors. Should a one unit unit of my crisis suits carry flamers instead of blasters?

Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [61 PL, 1000pts]

HQ
Cadre Fireblade [2 PL, 42pts]: Markerlight

Ethereal [3 PL, 50pts]: Honour blade, Hover Drone

Troops
Strike Team [4 PL, 59pts]: MV1 Gun Drone, MV36 Guardian Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [4 PL, 56pts]: MV1 Gun Drone, MV36 Guardian Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [3 PL, 40pts]: 5x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [3 PL, 40pts]: 5x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Elites
XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 237pts]: 6x MV4 Shield Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster
- Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster
- Crisis Shas'vre: Fusion blaster

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 237pts]: 6x MV4 Shield Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster
- Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster
- Crisis Shas'vre: Fusion blaster

Fast Attack
Pathfinder Team [4 PL, 48pts]: MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone
- 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
- Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol

Pathfinder Team [3 PL, 40pts]
- 5x Pathfinder: 5x Markerlight

Dedicated Transport
TY7 Devilfish [7 PL, 151pts]: 2x Smart missile system, Burst cannon

Total: [61 PL, 1000pts]
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>>54906551
Who gives a shit
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Didn't get this answered last thread so I'll just post it here.

So I am otherwise disappointed with what has become of Blood Angels but warming up to the idea of more fluff-play. Going to need to get more Sanguinary Priests and I am already painting up my Sanguinary Guard. But now I am thinking more on my assault dudes like Death Company and so on and wondering just how viable it is to equip some of them with inferno pistols. Obviously giving one Thunderhammer to a DC squad is well worth it but there is also something really good about having a DC marine being able to make two attacks with chainsword (3 if charging) and one attack with an inferno pistol with that bonus to being within melta range.

Even Hand Flamers seem kinda worth it now, even at S3 but with the possibility to hit 3 guys with it in combat it might be fair for the cost.

Thoughts?
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Would the guy with the thunder hammer work as a chapter master?

Or maybe 8th company captain?
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>>54906547
Man that'd be a awful color scheme.
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>>54906563
>Thoughts?
Is there a actual question in that pile of opinions?
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>>54906574
Any blinged-up Marine will make do for a Chapter Master
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>>54906575
Tempted to try painting my noise marines something very similar to pic related
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>>54906574
If I had to guess which of those four was a chapter master, I'm have gone with the chap with a headcrest.
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>>54906598
It takes a lot of skill to paint a bad scheme well, 90% just end up a smear of colour at TT range.
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>>54906595

My problem is I have ideas for ten captains but there's one model extra that I cant fit in my plans.

Since the guy with the thunder hammer is the most blinged up ( has heresy era gear) I thought maybe it'd be a good chapter master.

>>54906620

The problem is that's the only model with sculpted 2nd company parts.
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Post these.
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>>54906514
How good is a flamer heavy IG army? I want to run a bunch of infantry squads with Flamers in Chimeras with 2 H. Flamers, backed up by Vets with Flamers and Banewolf/Hellhounds.

Pic related is what I want to use instead of fugly Cadians
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>>54906563
nid hat nid hat nid hat nid hat
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>>54906563

DC base atk are 2.They will need a lot of buff for maximum rips and tears like Sanguinor, Sanguinary Priest, Lermates, Unleash Rage. Also Hand Flamer sucks.
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>>54906639
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Please post more coffe mug pics! i need to build up my collection
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>>54906650
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Since combi weapons can fire an unlimited amount of times now, is there any reason to choose the dedicated special weapons instead of combi-weapons whenever possible?
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>>54906643
are those tau or deathguard? or nurgle cultists?
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>>54906643
It will struggle. People are faggots and bring things like Knights and Baneblades and everyone dick rides gay robots, so you'll have trouble doing enough damage to these dumpster models.
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>>54906670
Sauce on this?
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>>54906643

Those make 10/10 nurgle cultists or nurgle allied IG
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>>54906672
Third party Not!-nurgle traitor guard.
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>>54906686
The rules?
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>>54906558
Me, that's why I am asking
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>>54906670
To double up on a special weapon of course. 5 man squad with 2 Plasma Guns basically.
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>>54906686

8th ed.
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>>54906547
Speaking of which, what would be a good list for waluigi orks?
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Best units/proxies/conversions to represent an Exodite Eldar list? I'm happy using rules from across all the Eldar factions
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>>54906686
>>54906700
Fucking retards.
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>>54906643
they are 90% spot on, though.. that big blank space at the bottom of the helmet just scream for a fuckign re-breather or mask filter instead of a flat area.
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>>54906670
The special weapons are usually 3pts cheaper than their combi version.
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>>54906715
What kind of Exodites?
The meme Dino rider Exodites or The dudes who fucked off before everything went to shit?

because the former is obviously Lizardmen
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>>54906717
Stop posting you waste of skin.
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>>54906592
>>54906647
Any Chaplin whether a named character or just a regular one seems pretty mandatory for a DC squad. And for that matter it seems like any BA army needs 2 or so Sanguinary Priests. I never really ran inferno pistols in 7th but they seem worth it now. I just want to know other peoples opinions on them if they are a good investment.
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>>54906715
Cold one rider shining spears.

T-rex dino rider Wraithknight.

Dryad Wraithguards.
Ect-
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>>54906730

Can Sternguard fire special ammo on combi weapons?
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>>54906670
Availability, not paying 3 extra points for a boltgun you'll never use
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How good of a recaster is Zanchui? Thinking of getting some of the old Finecrap stuff from him, is he better than GW's quality or should I just be a good goy and buy the officials?
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I need help expanding my Admech. I currently have 3 Dunecrawlers, 30 Rangees/Vanguard, 3 Destroyers, and 2 Techpriest Dominusessisusses. I'm not sure what to buy next. I keep hearing Infiltrators, ruststalkers and electropriests are shit. I'm tempted to buy Kastellans but the models are so fucking ugly.
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>>54906755
I'm not a space Maine player, but do sternguard still have special ammo outside the strategem
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>>54906769
He sucks, there are far better recasts around
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>>54906780
Damn, he's the only one I know of that sells what I want. I'd go with Miranda Irene normally but she doesn't seem to have the specific model I want...
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>>54906769
Pretty good, probably in the top 5 of recasters
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>>54906769
AFAIK he varies from "whoops, wait 5 weeks for do-over to arrive" to adequate quality.

Really, he's who you go to is you don't know any other re-casters, have no money (but still play warhammer) and you will literally die if you cannot field your FW unit of choice.
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>>54906769
Z is pretty good, he changed his resin this year and the results are much better than they used to be
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>>54906816
No longer that dark grey brittle shit?
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>>54906800
I have contacts of a lot of the guys (even stuff like WHS, with metal recasted miniatures)
But they come at a price
Psh, nothing personell, kiddo
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What's better with berserker, a dark apostle, or an exalted champion?
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>>54906844
Both.
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Any help deciding what color do I paint the gun casings?

Some oprions are:

>Dark bronze
>Black
>Dark greenish blue (inspired from Imperial Armour)
>Dark red
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>>54906672
They're human Tox Troopers sold by anvil industry. They are a tad bit cheaper than regular Cadians, and look cooler. The idea for my army is that they are the survivors of a war with Nurgle on their planet, and are thus best suited at fighting in toxic or viral conditions. Thus the hazmat suits.
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/Miniatures-of-the-North/Tox-Troopers/Tox-Trooper-Squad

>>54906681
Honestly, I have the exact opposite problem. All the people at my store love running huge blobs of troops or hyper elite forces like GK or SM.

My meta features:
>Chaos Undivded Daemons(Blood Letters, Plague Bearers, Khorne Hounds)
>DKoK/Imperial Guard troops
>Genestealer Spam backed by a few big bugs
>Termagaunt spam

Or

>Grey Knights
>Chaos Space Wolves
>Tau
>Death Watch/w Primaris

Here's my theoretical list:

https://pastebin.com/uvizJka4

Note the HK missiles on all the Chimera's; thats my hopeful anti-tank. Otherwise, I might skip out on them and run a squad of Melta-Scions or a few Lascannon teams.
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>>54906844
Ideally, both.
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>>54906514
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>>54906827
Little brighter, bluish color.

I got a porphyrion from him that was immaculate recently
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>>54906744
Lermates and Sanguinary Priests is a must. They are not as savage as they was in the 7th but still pretty good. So yeah, quite a good investment.
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Who else is doing the mission today?

What are you bringing?
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>>54906681
>having trouble with knights or baneblades
have you tried not playing a shit list/army?
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>>54906844
I'm running two squads in two rhinos, 9 zerks in each, apostle in one, champ in the other.
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>>54906878

Primaris are Custodes sized which is pretty retarded if normal marines are like 7 feet tall
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>>54906755
No as their Boltgun is special. To get a Combi, you must trade in your special Boltgun.
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>>54906810
Do you have any others you'd recommend that sell some finecast stuff?
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>>54906777
They only have one special bullet type instead of the old 3.
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>>54906756
If you're going c.Flamer go for it as you'll just get 2 Bolter shots at -1 To Hit

But Combis let squads / characters take an extra special weapon when you normally couldn't.
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>>54906878
>primaris marines are as tall as most primarchs
wat
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>>54906894
It's not ridiculous, Mk X is pretty clearly based on toned down custodes armor, look at the normal chest piece and the legs on the Chaplain
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>>54906894
Marines are 8 feet tall in armour. They are about 7'6" without it.
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>>54906689
I was briefly considering that, but I prefer flamers and a sort of blitzkrieg assault over the slow, grinding playstyle of Death Guard or Nurgle Daemons. Thats where I came up with the idea of a Guard Regiment that after fighting off a nurglite invasion, that they became specialized in mechanical warfare, striking at slower oppenants, and than retreating. Their colors are going to be a match to the DG color scheme, with their robes being a sickly green, and their helmets being a darker green. Optics are going to be Red, guns are either metallic or brass. Brass might be too nurglite though.

>>54906726
Eh, it doesn't bother me too much; on the back of the model, the tube leads to a sealed air capsule, or filter. With who and how they fight, it makes sense that rebreathers wouldn't work as well.
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So with all the new lore in 8th, did we ever determine if Moloch is a Primaris or a Custodian in disguise?
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>>54906879
Seconding this, the Knight I got, along with the resin upgrade bits, were nearly flawless aside from the usual flash. Minimal bubbles, too.
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>>54906773
Infiltrators, ruststalkers, and electro priests all have their place. We need melee units to keep things out of our lines.
Kastelans are great. You could always convert the heads or add pauldrons or something.
Cawl is good.
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>>54906993
I don't think they've expanded on it as of yet. I am curious though. Leaning towards custodian myself.
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>>54906643

Those would look good. It ot wasn't for the shit head.
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>>54906974
..while they can differ in size drastically, depending on their natural given genes and how good they can take the treatments that make them Astartes.
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>>54906883
Nearest "local" Gw is 235 miles away, there is another 152 miles out, but I'd need to bring my passport, and it's expired.
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>>54906885
I don't have trouble with those. I'm saying Flamers will, you idiot.
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>>54907010
The spear is convincing but I almost feel like a new early dethaw Primaris would be easier for the High Lord's to use as an attack dog than a Proud and Noble Custodian

THEN AGAIN he could just be a super big beef dude like the Exorcist chapter master, who iirc is decribed as "as big as an Ogryn"
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>>54907036
Well, fucking obviously there will be deviations to the standard but we're talking generally, genius.
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>>54907041
Where do you live? Oil platform on the ocean or something?
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>>54907071
>Exorcist chapter master
That the guy with the S10 Hammer?
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>>54907094
Yesss. I kind of want to use him allied in my Guard as hes now just a super beef Deny battery.
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>>54906993
>a Primaris or a Custodian in disguise?
No, stop reading too much into shit. He's just a big guy. This happens with space marines sometimes.
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>>54907122
>Fuckheug space marine with super amazing golden armor and a straight up Custodian spear in a position of unparalleled authority backed by the High Lord's themselves
I mean you're probably right but that doesn't activate your almonds even a LITTLE?
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>>54907154
Well, alright that is a bit questionable. I wasn't fully aware of Moloc's lore.
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IG players, do you even use commmand squads?

I mean before we had to take them, but now I'm leery of a 4 man squad of vets that'll just get shot off the board if anyone looks at them funny, so why would I put medpacks or standards on them, which means why would I ever take them.

Only thing I can think off it just cramming them with special weapons and shoving them on a Chimera, but wouldn't a special weapon squad with a demo charge work better?
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>>54906650
>the planet broke before the Imperial Guard did
right in the feels
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>>54907179
The spear shoots lasers, dude
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>>54906882
Not long ago I played a match with 3 DC squads equipped with a Thunderhammer each. Brought with them a Dreadnough, Astorath, and a Priest. When I dropped them in they managed to cleave right through my Opponents HQ defenses and the Dreadnought managed to take him out. Granted next turn my guys were all but wiped out (6+ FNP rarely does them any favors.)

They did what I wanted them to do but it's a huge point sink and only really lasted for one turn. I would really like it if they got their +5 FNP save back. I would even settle if they gained it if a Chaplin was close to them or if they gained some other benefit when being with a Chaplin. Also them having any kind of moral check is dumb.
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>>54907058
calling people who play knights and baneblades fags makes you sound like a salty cunt who can't beat them.
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>>54907093
Oh, guess my info is outdated, only GW in my country has shut down.
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lord of contagion is such a good looking model, I hope the codex makes him viable instead of just taking typhus for a lower cost.
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>>54907256
Just use him as a chaos lord desu
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>>54907179
....then why would you just shoot down his theory if you don't know jack shit about the topic?
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>>54907034
Not like Cadians look any better with their bobble heads.
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>>54907297
Because people tend to make dumb theories about the lore based on reaching really hard all the time, and there are canonically regular ass space marines that are just fuckhuge because reasons.
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>>54907312
You can just say you were triggered over nothing
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Would you consider the bionic arm here to be a lightning claw or a power fist?
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>>54906551
Depends on what armies you expect to face, got more fusion there than you should need
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>>54907329
>implying triggered
What
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>>54906773
Infiltrators are our only good unit; Fulgurites and Rust Stalkers will die before doing anything because they have fuck all for protection.

Kastellans, Dune Crawlers and Cawl are our best units. Infiltrators are good at tieing up meq, and killing hordes dep. on loadout.
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>>54906551

1. Unless you aren't comfortable with it (and I wouldn't blame you if you were) I'd say instead of crisis suits, take commanders with 4 blasters. You get take a hit in durability (6W from 9) but you go from averaging 1.5 hits her turn to over 3.5. Also you get the Mont'ka/Kauyon ability as well as potentially character protection. If it's not your thing, I totally get it.

2. Drop the guardian drones on strike squads. Very few things are going to be shooting at them with better than -2 AP, so you will get next to no use out of them other than an ablative wound, and at that point; just take a shield drone or gun drone.

3. I wouldn't bother upgrading your Devilfish's weapon to SMS. It's not like, a BAD idea, but it's not really a platform that is either particularly tough or accurate.

As to your question: If you dropped FBs to flamers on one of your crisis teams, you could probably afford to take 2 of your other suits and make them into quad-fusion commanders. You would also have to drop the fireblade or the etherial though, to make room for HQs.
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>>54906773

Electro priests were shit. They've gotten a bit better. Infiltrators and RS require finest to use. You can't just throw them at people willy nilly and expect it to work, but of you are careful and smart with them they can do a lot of work for you.

Kastellans are absolutely wonderful, but if you don't like the look use some dread bits for the arms and shoulders and swap out the head. For something more to your liking.
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>>54907332
Power fist.
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>>54907332
Fist, definitely.
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What army would I proxy as Arbites?
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>>54907362
Tempestus
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>>54907351
>unironically suggesting someone take commanders when they're in the second boxcar of the nerftrain heading straight to nerftown
Good idea.
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What AdMech stuff does /tg/ want buffed? I would like for rust-stalkers to get an infiltrate rule and some -AP stuff on the weapons.
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>>54907362
Tempestus, taurox are even good armored police vans
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>>54907362
Imperial Agents.
Acolytes with storm shields as arbites with shields, Flagellants/DKassasisns as Cyber matiffs, Inquisitors as Investigatorus and other henchmen as various specialists.
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>>54907387
Ruststalkers need buffs but infiltrate is not what they do.

Rangers absolutely need buffs. They got fucking raped.
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>>54907377
I figure, until it gets there, why not? I'm not suggesting he purchase the models; just that the Crisis Suits he has can stand in for them, since they are pretty much the same model.
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>>54907377
Whats he supposed to take Riptides and XV88s. Tau units are trash, codex can't come soon enough.
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Age of smegmar or death guard stuff?
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I'm trying to make a somewhat fluffy black legion list to decide what to cop. I'm new to chaos. Mostly looking at unit composition/wargear choices over strict points/power
~1500
Vanguard Detachment
Chaos Terminator Lord - lightning claws, mark of khorne
5x Chaos Terminators- combi bolters, power axes, champion with power fist
5x Chaos Terminators- combi bolters, power axes, champion with power fist
Helbrute- plasma cannon and power fist
20x Chaos Marines- bolters or chainswords (not sure which) with two plasmaguns, icon of vengeance, champion with lightning claws
Forgefiend-autocannons and plasma cannon

Outrider detachment
Exalted Champion - Murder Sword, Mark of Khorne, plasma pistol
Raptor Squad- 2x melta guns, plasma pistol and power fist champion, mark of slaanesh
Raptor Squad- power sword and plasma pistol
1x Chaos Spawn

Something like that. Im very unsure what I want to give my terminators and marines as wargear. Also, black legion tactics suuuuure are shitty.
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>>54907400
>>54907387
rangers just need flat -1ap
rust stalkers need AP in successive rounds of combat, or +1 to hit for each round of combat their in
Infiltrators need their full debuff aura back
"cognis" weapons need to have a better ability
both sicarians need better movement abilities or better defensive abilities (what happened to their fnp?)
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>>54907431
Death Guard Stuff.
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>>54907387
Rangers need better AP. We're paying 10 points per dude for nothing.

Dominus need a point decrease. They are not worth 135 points. They cost way too much for what they do and are.

Dunecrawlers need their old Invuln rules.

Vanguard should get a slight decrease in points.

Rust Stalkers loose mortal wound rules, get higher AP and Str. Make them a dedicated close combat unit, dammit.

We need a fucking transport more than anything.
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>>54907394
Grab some count as SoB for some delicious Dominions inside a Repressor
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>>54907424
Considering Riptides are getting buffed, maybe.

Codex is probably not coming soon. Don't hold your breath.
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>>54907400
RS definitely need some -AP on the weapons. In the fluff it says that the weapons need to hone in on the frequency of the shit it's trying to slice so after a full round of fighting they get a AP-whatever.
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>>54907387
Breachers, chickens, you know the worthless stuff.
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>>54906873
how does one run/model chaos space wolves? my friend has space wolves and it would be cool to have a fluff friendly tagteam every now and then
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>>54907387
>>54907436

This, plus a few buffs to Canticles (Should be flat +1 To Hit to avoid buff wastage with a bunch of R1, and a couple other things) and a damage boost to Dragoons (Maybe some kind of Mortal Wound mechanism or more attacks against bigger units), and a 10-20 ppm drop on Kataphrons of all stripes.

Also, give us xenos-equivalent haywire for fucks sake, that was just screwing us over for literally no reason.
Played a game today that went pretty well, though, suboptimal list vs. suboptimal WE list. I'll do a batrep if you guys don't mind a whole bunch of unpainted models since both of us are redoing our armies.
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>>54907231
Because they are stupid and boring to play against. It's a skirmish game that's become herohammer and faggot super heavy 40k. Apocalypse becoming the norm was a mistake.
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>>54907351
>1. Unless you aren't comfortable with it (and I wouldn't blame you if you were) I'd say instead of crisis suits, take commanders with 4 blasters.
Nah, we are playing casual games for newbies so we want to play WYSIWYG. Converting a crisis suit into commander wouldn't be fair in my opinion.
>just take a shield drone or gun drone.
You are right. I will just take more gun drones for more buffed dakka
>I wouldn't bother upgrading your Devilfish's weapon to SMS. It's not like, a BAD idea, but it's not really a platform that is either particularly tough or accurate.
It was some Anon advice to do this. I'm gonna give it a try and if it end up to be a shitty build I will swap on gun drones.

Thanks for your reply anon
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>>54907435
Why are you giving the murder sword to a champion? You have no means of delivering him anywhere. Give it to a lord.
And since you're doing raptors, go with Night Lords. BL is pure shit.
Why 1 spawn? It's basically just a free First Blood.
Give terminators plasmas, same with raptors.
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>>54907447
>Transport
No. AdMech is a footslog army.
What we need is flyers.
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>>54907400

Didn't play in 7th, how were rangers back then?

Rangers don't seem terrible to me, just, not very good
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>>54907477
I don't give a shit about unpainted models if you're redoing them.
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>>54907512
Still overshadowed by Vanguard but their rules were more fun. Precision Shots meant hit rolls of 6 could let them snipe out special weapons and squad sergeants, and AP 4 utterly wrecked Fire Warriors and Necrons. Their AP got horrendously shat upon by 8th because it should have translated to a flat -1 instead of -1 on 6s.
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>>54907512
30" s4 ap4, precision shots, same price, but also 6+ fnp and better canticles (or docrinas, i guess)
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>>54907474
Make them even more feral, mix wulfen and AoS Khorneflake kits.
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>>54907530
>>54907531

That seems... really good for ten points a guy though
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>>54907474
The player who runs them a pretty quiet guy. He models them with a mix of Space Wolves and Chaos marine bits. He runs the old Wulven as possessed, and his hounds as spawn. I'm not quite sure what tactics he uses as of the new codex.
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>>54906731
Well, I'd like to mix the two, but more emphasis on the nature aspect than dinomemes. I'm already planning on using the Wood Elf Treegiants as Wraithlord/knight stand-ins
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>>54907502
Screw that. Our infantry is way too expensive and weak to footslog. That's like saying Tempestus/Storm Troopers are foot sloggers.
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>>54907546
On paper, but 9 points can buy 30 conscripts who do much more damage.
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>>54907332
It's clearly a power claw.
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>>54907431
Plastic Sister of Battle riding a lion inside a thunderhawk, while dropping plastic steel legion
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>>54907431
At this point it's probably Sigmar, the rumour engine teases are usually done pretty far out and DG are only a few weeks away now.
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>>54907387
Better leadership. Have a warlord trait that makes all models in 12" ignore morale stuff.
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>>54907500
I would just run him behind a choppa blob of csm. Also I kinda liked the idea of him having an athame so he can be eliphas the former word bearer, and not use said athame to open any portals for araghast, lel

Agree that night lords rules would be much much better, but thematically I'm going for black legion speartip, and I'm planning on summoning daemons with my characters in combat and marking stuff, and it just didn't feel right.

Agree chaos spawn is dumb. Maybe warp talons or more raptors?

Combiplas terminators sounds useful. Think power fists are worth it at all?

Have a wip raptor btw
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>>54907594
Are you seriously rehashing facebook jokes?
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What would you give in order to be able to play a Kroot army (inlcuded with HQ, fast attack, heavy support, etc), even it it is only small enough to be considered an "allied" faction to the Tau, much like the genestealer cults are to Tyranids
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>>54907620
'bout Three-fiddy
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>>54907454
Pretty sure he plans to play before the codex drops.
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>>54907617
Am I?
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>>54907646
The balance changes are coming in FAQs. Soon.
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>>54907594
>>>/ribbit/

>>54907614
Not always, the lasgun tease was barely two weeks?
Sometimes a bit far off, sometimes not. Apoth tease was maybe 1.5 months
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New Abaddon model when??
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>>54906514
Does this more Admech are shit?

This is my first edition and I was looking at buying them...
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>>54906650
We need a virgin Tau, Chad marine one of these.
Or virgin Tau, Chad Guard.
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>>54907616
If you're dead set on using BL, there is no reason not to bring Abaddon. I'm using Horus model as my warlord, usually as Abaddon or a terminator Lord. And yes, I call him Eliphas too. Soft spoken preacher man beats the screeching armless failure any day of the week.
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>>54907677
Buy what you think looks cool.
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>>54907676
After Plastic Sisters but before Fires of Cyraxus
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>>54907233
> gives location on 4chan
Asking for it anon
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>>54907659
>the lasgun tease was barely two weeks?
Oh good point.

Maybe it could be a Poxshaman then.
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>>54907679
>have to rely on battlesuits, drones, and marker lights to be able to do anything effectively.
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Feedback on my Eldar?

Not a new painter but admittedly not a great one.

First time getting into these guys.

Pic 1/2
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>>54907689
Yeah but are Admech shit, ruleswise?

I'm curious.
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>>54907723
This has to be a meme paintjob.
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>>54907723
2/2
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>>54907723
THIN
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>>54907479
im sorry you live in the past, maybe fuck off to warmahordes
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>>54907658
How very unspecific and arbitrary.
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>>54907679
>Implying it wouldn't be the other way around
guela please, glorious str 5 vs puny str 3/4
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>>54907536
>>54907557
that sounds pretty cool really. I don't think my friend will be keen on redoing much of his army though so rip
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>>54907731
Eh. We have some shit units, but the good ones are exemplary.

Our units are either shit, or turbo good. No in-between.
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>>54907681
He would be pretty great. There's definitely a reason they spent 90% of their faction focus article on him instead of the awful tactics. Would be easy to make a terminator lord who counts as him anyways.

Hope he gets a new model sometime. Would be a fun centerpiece to paint.
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>>54907710
For what?

I have no friends or presence on social media and all the pizzarias know i only ever order one thing.
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>>54907760
How are the kastellen robots? They look fun to paint.
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>>54907741
>butthurt knightfag
I'm not even the guy you're responding to but in my experience like 90% of the 40k player-base agrees superheavies are game-ruining cancer that should have stayed in apoc.
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>>54907576

Yeah but pretty much everything loses to conscripts if you go by a point comparison
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>>54907768

They're great, probably the best unit in the army
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>>54907768
Dakka machines that can put out 19 shots at AP-1 or rip tanks in half by fighting twice in one fight phase with powerfists.
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How does one start a proper Nids swarm in 8th edition? I'm aware that Nids are not cheap faction but I want to keep them on budget as much as possible and don't end up with an unplayable list.

Should I pick a Tyranid Swarm box and Tervigon Brood Progenitor and try to trade my Hormagaunts for more Termagants? If not, is Start Collecting and more elite army a better idea?
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>>54907769
And that is outdated thinking right up there with GK being 3000 strong and every SW great company having 500+ members.
Knights especially are incredibly reasonable to deal with on the table nowadays, as are most superheavies. They are generally not the underpriced unit deleters they once were, so using the same old complaints because you want to cling to your biases makes you the cunt here.
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>>54907723
Mama Mia!
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>>54906551
Are you actually taking crisis suits with only one gun each?
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>>54907769
>waaa stop liking what I don't like
>everyone says they hate you because I say so

where did the knight player touch you anon?
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>>54907818

If you can find the older Tyranid collecting box that has both gaunts, genestealers and warriors, that's a good deal

The current start collecting box is a good deal on paper, but nobody uses gargoyles, tyranid warriors aren't great, and hive tyrants aren't what they used to be
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>>54907827
They are reasonable when playing 1500 or more.

At things like 500 or 25PL one those bloody things is almost impossible to bring down
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>>54907744
>Hides inside mechs instead of facing Daemon Princes weaeing just a tshirt
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>>54907836
Oh fuck, missclick. Shit, how could I didn't notice that
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Looking for input on the idea of a dread mob list.

Big Mel
2 close combat deft dreads
Gorkanaught
2 squads of 6 killa kanz, all with rockets.

Thoughts?
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>>54906681
>People are faggots and bring things like Knights and Baneblades
Are Baneblades that threatening this edition? I can understand the Shadowsword rightfully harmful to other LOWs and the 2 transport variants being good for still having firing points but what about the rest? I'm not convinced by what happened to the Baneblade and Stormsword compared to last edition, especially without its own version of Grinding Advance/Flying Fortress.
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>>54907520
OK, got my photos resized and in order.

I brought pretty much the same list I had in 7e, which is 2x3 Gravstroyers, a shooty Kastelan squad + Minder, a Neutroncrawler, a plasma Vanguard squad and Dominus, plus some Flechette Infiltrators and a Dragoon pair.

He brought a mishmash of World Eaters infantry and Iron Warriors vehicles, can't remember the detachments exactly but he had 5 CP.
Block of 19 'Letters, two squads of Khorne Bezerkers, a shooty basic CSM squad for Troops, some Cultists, a Las/Autocannon predator, gatling Forgefiend and a Defiler. Oddly large amount of dakka for a WE army, but he was footslogging due to not having any Rhinos put together yet.

Both of us were a bit behind the times, and apparently we'd both decided to couple the army update with redoing our models. Half of mine are still in the crappy scheme I'd picked when I started the hobby, he'd already stripped and reprimed most of his. He also had a very pretty Murder Swordbearer which I think would be a shame to repaint, but the Colour Scheme God demands symmetry.
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>>54907769
I don't have anything to add, expect that I strongly agree.
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>>54907233
I know that feel anon.
>Only GW is at the capital 450 km away
At least i have the local game store. Shame most of the customers frequenting it only play Magic the gathering.
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>>54907857
that's because 500pt games are unbalanced babby tier horseshit. games that small can barely function with two equal units, of course a knight will fuck it up.
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>>54907818
You buy a Broodlord, a huge bunch of genestealers, a GSC command squad, and a baneblade.
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>>54907741
Stop posting. You are a complete waste of a person.
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>>54907818
Hormagaunts are actually still a useful unit. They're not very good at killing things but their 6" pile in/consolidate means they can engage a whole bunch of shit in combat so they're not at all unhelpful.

But you are going to want at least 60 fleshborer termagants and probably 30 with devourers for when you inevitably want to use those in various ways. The swarm box is fine, it gets you a carnifex, which are pretty cool, shame about Gargoyles though, they're pretty much garbage.
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>>54907879
> Big Mel
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>>54907744
>army wide ws 5+ and s/t 3
>chads

>bs 4+ unless you shoot 1 gorillion markerlights at something
>shooty army
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>>54907866
You're going to have redo everything then list would be 252 points over.
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>>54907893

>tfw you used to have a big ass battle bunker with like thirty tables fifteen minutes away
>now the closest store to play at has four tables and is like an hour away.
>tokyo has four gw stores in a two mile radius

why
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>>54907937
Yeah, I have to stick with only flamers to keep this under 1000 pts
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>>54907885
I was obviously Defender, since I was Imperium and we were playing the Nethalmus mission. I didn't have a Tank because Admech doesn't actually have one at all, but whatever.

I deployed pretty far back with Shroudpsalm active because I was wary of Warptime Bezerker longbombs, but I managed to Sieze and repositioned to lay fire into his infantry line. Predator and Dunecrawler glared across the board diagonals at each other.
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>>54907933
Mel's a big guy
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>>54907861
>Doesn't understand chicks dig giant robots, everyone digs giant robots
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>>54907910
Even at 1000/50 it is questionable unless you know before hand
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>>54907893
>Only GW is at the capital 450 km away
>the customers frequenting it only play Magic the gathering.
Same here, fucking Poland
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>>54907950
>"chicks dig giant robots"
>literally no female ever plays the pathetic cuck faction that is tau
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>>54907945
How do you own so much yet not paint any of it?
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>>54907969
Giant robots
Not giant suit of armour with derpy looks
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>>54907971
I see primer on half, paint on two and what looks like complete base color on one.
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He did nothing wrong.
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>>54907969
wrong
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>>54907945
I dropped in the Infiltrators in front of his Bloodletters, which in retrospect was a pretty poor idea, but this was my first game where I'd actually had any 8e Deepstrike.

Datasmith started the switch to Protector Protocols on the Kastelans and they shuffled around a bit to see some Bezerkers through a door.

>>54907971

One, that's my opponent, not me. Two, reading comprehension.
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>>54907942
flamers cant deepstrike and fire, you could do plasma rifles and swap the shield drones to gun drones with a DC on one of the suits.
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>>54908003
you misspelled 'everything'
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Alright faggots, what Chapter Tactics do you expect for Dark Angels, Spess Yiffs and Blood Angels?

>+1 to attack in first round of combat
>3d6 charge discard the lowest
>reroll 1s if you didn't move
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>>54907818
>get SC!
>Get swarm box
>make tyrant Swarmlord
>make carnifex ooe
>slingshot ooe every game
>enjoy 10 str8 ap-3 D3 wounds against pretty much anything ever
As for the gaunts, run a squad of 30 gaunts (10 devil and 20 fleshborer), a 30 man squad of hormies, a cqc warrior brood, and a 20 man gargoyle chaff squad
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>>54907945
paint your fucking models scumbag
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>>54908006

Damn, I didn't realize Kastellans were so small
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>>54907950
>chicks dig giant robots,
>As all the chicks are collecting Tyranids. An army known for their distinct lack of giant robots
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>>54907971
Probably in the same boat as me
>Can't decide what legion/warband to run
>Decide to wait for codex to arrive before i decide
>Still keep frequenting the LGS and always end up buying a new box of models every now and then
>Can't paint them because you are an indecisive fuck

I'm not even a WAACfag or anything. I just can't decide which colour scheme i like the best.
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>>54908028
Yiffs +1 attack when charging
woof woof woof
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>>54908052
Literally this.
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>>54908003
The only thing he did wrong was picked up a strange sword.

Blame the Emperor for not warning his kids about the dangers of Chaos.
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>>54908058
I like "in the first round of combat" more as it's Counter-Attack from 7th as well.
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>>54907735
I read that
>This has to be a meth paintjob.
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>>54908074
That makes it strictly better than the World Eaters trait, so it's not going to happen.
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>>54908052
Correct
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>>54908071

Yeah Fulgrim was straight up the most loyal Primarch before he picked up the fucking sword.

Emperor was a fucking retard.
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>>54908028
DA getting shooting buffs is retarded imo, we're not really a shooty army. Unless Deathwing and Ravenwing are getting their own company tactics too.
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>>54908055
The answer is always Alpha Legion and you play them with vanilla marine codex and models.

DEATH TO THE ENEMIES OF OUR FALSE EMPEROR!!!
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>>54907921
>being this assblasted
sorry the game didn't turn out how you wanted, be sure to burn your army and post it online.
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>>54908092
How else do you think they're going to fill a whole codex with one army, dummy? They are clearly going to give different stuff to DA, DW, RW
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>>54908006
I opened up with the Infiltrators at the Bloodletters and completely bounced, he made 5 5++ saves against the flechette barrage and I failed charge. Rather poor riot control from these boys so far.
Dunecrawler tried to take a chunk out of the Predator but rolled 1 shot and missed completely.
Kastelans did really rather well on the 5+ hits against the Bezerkers, but he then made another 8/9 saves and only lost the one guy.

Grav Destroyers managed to redeem us in the sight of the Omnissiah and gutted the other squad of Bezerkers, which broke and legged it for First Blood.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the only things not WYSIWIG in my army is the Skitarii Sarge is just basic and the Katas have Flamers rather than Phosphor.

>>54908040

They're not that tall, yeah. A bit shorter than a basic Dread.
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>>54908086
>Yiffs
>not getting better rules than CSM

Come on

>>54908092
Idk, my thought process was DA=plasma, and rerolling 1s makes most sense there.
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>>54908028
>Dark Angels
-3 to LD when within 6'' of <FEMALE>
>Spess Yiffs
Squatting
>Blood Angels
Something for assault marines at the least, to emphasize their importance to the army, or something like +1str on the charge for all infantry and dreads
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>>54908086
How is only in the first round so maybe a 50% chance of one unit ever using it better.
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>>54907951
the same could be said for 3 landraiders, stormravens or any list that's all vehicles.
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>>54908103
I invite you to take a look at the Grey Knights codex. Literally half the size of the other two codices.

That being said, getting some tactics which make bog standard terminators on par with the Knights would be beautiful. And some sort of anti air because holy fuck that department is so lacking.
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>>54908052
>modern women collect the army where there is literally no individual thought and will outside of what mummy tyranid wants, every nid is a child born of her in a macabre "family" and without her benevolent guidance the family members regress into savagery
shocker
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>>54908118
There's a difference between better and strictly better. I think everyone can agree that World Eaters Legion trait is far better than, say, Black Legion, but that's because they're DIFFERENT. GW is not going to give one sub-faction a trait that does everything another one does and also more.
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>>54908120
BA already have +1 attack on charge and +1 str from a character, all the good shits been taken.
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>>54907435
I know people will say combi plasma but your army is lacking in taking out armour. You have a lot that can deal damage to the same targets as plasma weapons.

In all of my games (NL mind you but still) I have found combi meltas more useful on terminators or if you're running two units do it at least on one. Two meltas on raptors and a few plasma cannons in the army won't be enough to deal with a lot of threats.

By the same token consider taking a maulerfiend with tendrils instead of a forgefiend.

And yeah don't try and fit a spawn just for a 1CP detachment it's not worth it. Also if you take combi meltas on terminators consider making your raptors cheaper and stick to melee weaponry.
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>>54907479
>It's a skirmish game that's become herohammer and faggot super heavy 40k
It hasn't been a skirmish game since 2nd (which sucked balls). If you want to play a Skirmish game then fuck off and play a good one, 40K's only real strength is that its one of very few battle scale games that isn't utterly tedious.

Or you could try not being stuck 20 years in the past. (or, more likely, being a hipster faggot that just pretends to be stuck 20 years in the past)
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>>54908120
>leadership modifiers
>in one of the few armies that still has unconditional fearless
You didn't really think this shitpost through did you
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>>54908167
Stop posting, no one cares about your opinion because you are irrelevant.
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>>54908167
2nd was amazing and a lot of the best parts of 8th stem from it.

You sound really fucking ass-devastated that knightfags are hated for being dumb faggots.
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And I was bored and stole a fucked up, badly basecoated bloodcrusher from a friend to try and salvage. Demons are just kinda fun to paint. I didn't finish it, but it does kinda make me want to get some of my own (that I can not have finger sized mold lines on).
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>>54908167
lol you are the reason everyone hates you
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>>54907857
>They are reasonable when playing 1500 or more.
Poorfags and 12 year old play less than 1.5K.

2K-2.5K is where it's at.
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>>54908112
WEbro just piled in forward with everything, as expected. Tried to Warptime the Bezerker squad that had had the amazing luck but blew himself up instead with Perils, so he's on 1W. Khorne cares not for your Iron Warriors keyword, no psyking his boys.

His Predator fired into the Kastelans, and with a string of rather amazing luck managed to oneshot one of them with a Lascannon D6, despite taking a Mortal Wound in the process. The bloody bloop then exploded despite my CP reroll to try to stop it, killing three Skitarii and wounding the Dominus, Datasmith and his twin Kastelan. quite severely.
Rest of his dakka then hosed down the other bot and brought it to 1W through 1+ 4++, which wasn't too bad.

Bloodletters lost a guy to Overwatch and horribly murderized my poor Infiltrators in revenge.
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>>54908011
Well, it ended up as a very shooty list I think

Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire)
HQ
Cadre Fireblade: Markerlight, MV1 Gun Drone

Ethereal: Honour blade, Hover Drone

Troops
Strike Team: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team: 5x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle, MV1 Gun Drone

Elites
XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'vre: Drone controller, 2x Plasma rifle

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'vre: Drone controller, 2x Plasma rifle

Fast Attack
Pathfinder Team: MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone
. 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol

Pathfinder Team
. 5x Pathfinder: 5x Markerlight

Dedicated Transport
TY7 Devilfish: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon

Total: [60 PL, 999pts]
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Tempted to pick up the anniversary primaris captain as my store is hosting the event soon but I dont know if a captain with plasma pistol and powerfist would actually be any good. Anyone have any input?
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>>54908233
P A I N T
M O D E L S
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>>54907179
You're a retard. Why talk about things you admittedly know nothing about?
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>>54907857
>At things like 500
Why the fuck are you playing way outside of the range of points where there is any semblance of balance?

If you had said "knights are balanced at 500" then the answer is "well, no shit".

Play a proper points level or be clear what you're talking about when you run your mouth.
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>>54908235
>tau
>ended up as a very shooty list
Woah.
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>>54908245
Mine is having one soon too.

Maybe we go to the same store?
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>>54908216
Just grab a daemons Start Collecting box and play AoS skirmish
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>>54908235
Looks solid dude. I'd gladly field or play against that.
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>>54908235
That looks great, throw it in the garbage where it belongs taushit
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>>54908233
>battle report with unpainted minis
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>>54908258
>dredging up some hour and a half old argument about shit spessmuhreen lore no one gives a fuck about
shiggydigdawg
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>>54908245

You can always sell it for double on eBay as all limited editions have been sellign for at least $65 so it's a safe investment. Just don't open it until you know you want it.
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>>54908272
Not even him, but faction-snobs like you ruin hobbies. Go fuck a blender.
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>>54908245
It's solid, I think it comes with a bolt pistol option too. A power fist is only 8 points more than a power sword now so it's still a very budget HQ that can really take advantage of all those attacks
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>>54908235
Eh, stealths are better than crisis but your choice
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>>54908261
Wait for the fire warriors with katanas
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My local GW is having its anniversary soon and its gonna have special guest Jes Goodwin.

Now I'm a newfriend and don't know much about him. He seems to have done stuff for the Eldar from what I read.

Is he a cool guy?
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In the same vein, what Legion Trait would you expect DG/TS to have? DG seems easy

>each time you take a wound roll a D6; on a 5+ you don't take a wound

But i have no idea what would TSons have. Psychic power stuff seems obvious, but they have lot of non-psychic infantry that wouldn't benefit from it.
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>>54908142
>women collect the faction that literally sucks the life essence from all living things
Go figure
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>>54908233
I turned on Reroll Ones as Canticle and knocked a couple Marines down here and there with the Skitarii and Dunecrawler Stubbers, as well as taking the Predator down to 4W with a Neutron burst. Grav started eating through the Bloodletters and I put the Dragoons into them to try and drive them back a step or two. Managed to kill a couple and broke half a dozen more with morale, which made that flank pretty safe.
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>>54908213
>2nd was amazing
The edition where vehicles and bikes were deathtraps, characters were untouchable in melee except for other characters and the couple of factions that could actually deliver a character into combat quickly (since in a 4 turn game most models only moved 16") could decimate their opponents army?

Yeah, 2nd was great.
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>>54908321
Nah just some scrub.
LOUDLY ask " who the fuck are you" when he is introduced. Or as he walks in.
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>>54908335
>>54908142
Women don't play Tyranids. They think Nids are cute, but they don't collect or play them. They get Dark Eldar and Eldar, or those that are passively interested pick up some Marine chapter because the store manager or her boyfriend said it was a good way to get into the game.
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>>54908334
>5+ fnp
lol no
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>>54908334
GKs got a surprise extra chapter tactic (+1 to psychic and deny rolls) so it might be something new on top of disgustingly resilient
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>>54908321
Have this single (You) for this stale bait.
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>>54906666
quads of truth
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>>54908321
Jes Goodwin is the coolest guy, he's one of the head model designers going back for-fucking-ever and many of the best GW models in existence stem from his sketches and designs. If it weren't for him GW stuff would probably look like generic sci-fi crap like all the bland wannabe products out there.
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>>54908160
I agree. I don't have the reroll coverage or expendability to be able to get away with overcharging either. Plus, having a lot of squads with meltas dropping in is a pretty good psychological threat.

You think 3 per terminator squad to increase coverage or all in one squad? (Or all on both).

And yeah, forgefiends are... really bad. I just happened to acquire one for free to clean up (like most of my reclaimed warband). Maybe I could replace it in the future.
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>>54908265
Winnipeg?
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>>54908363
Right, every single current DG units having it was a fluke got it.
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>>54908260
Unbalanced.

Obviously.

Fucking autocorrect.
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>>54908362
>eldar/dark eldar
Confirm the most faggoty race of them all
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>>54908370
> not replying to stale pasta in kind
(You) are even worse than he is
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>>54908334
The fate dice from aos would be cool but it will probably be +1 to deny the witch or some generic shit
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>>54908334
So basically Disgustingly Resilient?
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>>54908356
To be fair you can talk shit about some aspects of every edition of 40k. None of them were perfect but 2nd was still fun as hell.
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>54908321

ask him to give you info on eldar or dark eldar in this edition and if he is doing new sketches for them
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>>54908190
>>54908213
>>54908227
I guess the hipster comment hit home.

I guarantee this dipshit wasn't alive when 2nd was released.
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>>54908387
I had no idea it was a pasta and I've been frequenting these generals for years.
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>>54908031
>a cqc warrior brood
What does it mean?
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>>54908361
>LOUDLY ask " who the fuck are you" when he is introduced. Or as he walks in.

Made me laugh IRL.
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>>54908367
>>54908387
>>54908400
No bait, for real.
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>>54907969
My friends wife plays tau.
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>>54908404
Who are you referring to?
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>>54908321
If I recall correctly Jes Goodwin was/is? the OG concept designer for GW, if you've seen any colored sketches that are on yellow/gold-ish paper and are TURBO grimdark, that's Jes. He's responsible for 40k having such a unified aesthetic for Imperials.

Vostroyans are his baby, he's also the reason why everyone and their mother has cranial implants with cables everywhere.

Also worked heavily on fantasy and funnily enough, did all the stormcast concepts.
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>>54908418
must be real if le epic gentleman posted it
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>>54908367
>>54908387
Retards who cry "stale pasta" on actual OC to try and fit in are the absolute worst. Kill yourself.
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>>54908386
It makes sense. Women have always liked elves because they are supposed to be beautiful. Eldar are gay space elves who have women who are as equally strong or stronger than their men.
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>>54908438
understatement. He literally designed space marines bro
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>>54908394
Yes, of course. Just like ES and WE have their patrons powers.

I mean, that would have TSons get some sort of 5++/+1 invu Legion Trait similar to Ethereal Form, which would be really powerful. Even ignoring 2++r1 Ahriman, 4++ Tzaangors/Rubrics would be a pain.
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>>54908412
Melee weapons, dumbass.
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>>54908344
paint your models
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>>54908334
I'd really, really hope for something like the fate dice so I might be able to have more control over rolls and stuff, thought that it was really neat when I first heard of it. However, I'm guessing it'll just buff casting for my psykers or help against perils, something like that. I'd still be fine with that though.
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>>54908438
He also did the ungodly excellent modern Carnifex and Flyrant.
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>>54908467
TSons will get +1 on psychic tests just like Grey Knights.
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>>54908467
>Even ignoring 2++r1 Ahriman
What
Where did you get 2++ from
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>>54908396
Yeah, it was fun in a stupid way but to say that 2nd was good while derisively calling 8th hero hammer is hilarious - characters have never been more powerful than 2nd.

It also wasn't a good wargame or a good skirmish game thanks to the terrible mobility of most units and the very limited range of good options (vehicles died instantly, bikes murdered characters that rode them, heavy weapons were incredibly unreliable). If you had fast melee units or mobile characters you were gold, everything else was trash.

The edition closest to 8th is 3rd by far.
>hurr durr AP modifiers
3rd was the edition where 40K became a fast battlescale game (which 8th is) where almost everything is viable (like in 8th). Vehicles vs. Non vehicles, hordes vs. elites, shooting vs. melee, it's all good.
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Rate my list?
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>>54908418
>>54908443
So this is the face memeing faggots? Pathetic.
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>>54908291
I don't give a fuck call the police, fag. The sooner the retard learns not to argue things he's ignorant about the better off we will be.
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>>54908344
His turn he pretty much bounced off with the majority of his dakka, his Prescience failed and thus all his Daemon Engines were hitting on 5+ for some reason or another. Pulled the remaining few Bloodletters back and fired all his scattered heavy weapons into the Dragoons, killing one despite the Predator failing to wound with his volley.
Big block of Zerkers, Murder Lord, Exalted Champion and Forgefiend running down one side of the board behind a wall.

When my turn came around I healed a Kataphron, hosed down the Zerker squad with the Kastelan and the one Skitarii squad inn their way, chipped some wounds off generally here and there and used my last two CP to activate the All Power to Weapons strat with the Crawler to finish off the Predator.
Sent my brave Skitarii squad to hold off the advancing melee blob, since I was still trying to get their supporting Kataphrons out of the ruin they'd been hiding in and the other squad couldn't see.
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>>54908508
No
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>>54908443
>>54908509

say it to my face IRL and watch what happens
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>>54908509
>anime posting
>others pathetic

gb2trash tau fag
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>>54908505
4++ base, +1 with potential Legion Trait and +1 with Weaver of Fates.
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>>54908508
Folds to melee, might wanna rethink it
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>>54908529
>potential legion trait
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>>54908514
>assburger so mad someone didn't like his shitty space marine conspiracy theory he comes back to shitpost about it almost 2 hours later when the rest of the thread has moved on
so how old were you when you were diagnosed with fatal autism
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>>54908407
Bitch has been spamming this every thread or so for the past week man
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>>54908520
>watch what happens
You lose you spaghetti?
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>>54908543
Are you actually retarded?
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>>54908418
Oh I believe you anon. That's why you should do as
>>54908361
Suggests.
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>>54908028
>Dark Angels
Bitter Doggedness: Deathwing Battleforged armies get +1 toughness for all <Infantry> when within 12 inches of an enemy model.
Hexagrammaton Adherence: Ravenwing can choose to make roll an extra D6 for Advance, with -1 to hit, but suffers a -1 penalty to shooting assault weapons the turn it advanced.
The Unforgiven: Dark Angels overall: On the first declared charge, if a Dark Angels unit is within range of an enemy unit that is within 6 inches of the nominated Fallen, the first Dark Angels unit to charge may always make a succesful charge unless it suffers a casualty from Overwatch.
>Spess Yiffs
Unbound Savagery: Every model considered in combat with an enemy model that successfuly charged it in the preceding Charge phase gets to make 1 attack with one close combat weapon, against the charging unit before the opponent can fight, at +1 strength. Should 50% of the attacks result in a wound, the Space Wolves may fight first in that round of combat.
>Blood Angels
Red thirst: When declaring a charge, a Blood Angels unit will gain +1 strength for that round of combat should the charge be successful. Furthermore, the charging Blood Angels unit gains +1 attack per model that suffers a wound to overwatch fire, regardless if the wound was saved or not. Also, when resolving Overwatch fire, each time the opponent rolls a 6, roll a D6: on a roll of 4+, the charging Blood Angels unit will gain +1 to their charge roll.
Keep them in Check: An <Infantry> or <Dreadnought> model that has been in close combat with the same unit for 3 or more consecutive turns will gain the Black Rage special rule for the rest of the game if they do not possess it already. This does not apply to a model with the <Character> keyword. The model must be counted as a casualty when the match ends. However, the opponent can only gain a victory point (where applicable) if he caused more more than 50% of total wounds to the model or unit before the Black Rage took over.
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>>54908088
Heresy
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>>54908551
I don't see how that's possible since the announcement on the facebook page was apparently dated only 3 days ago.
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>>54908547
Sweet projections, friendo. I'm not even the original guy.
>fatal autism
Wew lad try not to be so cool
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>>54908321

Throw the unsold Redemptor dread boxes at him and demand an explanation.
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>>54908567
>T5 deathwing
What is this erection and why can I not handle it
>26" advance ravenwing
Holy fuck lol
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>>54908571
3 days, a week
Get the fuck off my balls
He has been asking. A lot.
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>>54908427
>pretending he's not samefagging...
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>>54908567
>overcomplicated rules with shitty names and inconsistent syntax
Yuck.
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>>54908518
I charged my remaining Dragoon into the last Bloodletters and managed to take them down for two points, at which point it was swarmed by the cultists who'd been hiding in a ruin all game but who all wanted to ride the mechanical horsy.

His Defiler rolled six shots with the Battle Cannon but missed all of them (at which point he got fed up with his giant enemy crab and offered it to the EC player for a fiver) and then the Exalted Champion and Forgefiend smashed into my four Skitarii.

They made all three 6++ saves, tanked the mad flailing of the gatling guns and managed to smack the Champion on his ass with a rifle butt, before beating a hasty retreat in the Morale phase while the Champion was presumably distracted with the over-affectionate forgefiend trying to lick him better. Not bad for a bunch of expendable tinmen.
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>>54908622
>>overcomplicated rules with shitty names and inconsistent syntax
I wrote the rules specifically so it was as though they were lifted straight from an 8th Ed Codex :^)
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>>54908612
>Getting this sphincter shrapneled over a indonesian motor cleaning forum
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Is there any info on what sort of Marines were put into the Primaris treatment in 30k? Were they all new recruits or were some older veterans? Do the new organs need to be implanted during puberty for full effect, like with regular Marine organs, or can old Marines benefit from them equally?

Can I make a 40k version of my 30k praetor in primaris form, as if he survived the heresy and went through the process?
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>>54906947
Primarchs are fall taller than a Primaris Marine. Primarchs are 12-14 feet tall and an adult male human only comes up to blowjob height. Space Marines are seven foot, Primaris Marines are around 8'6".
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>>54908673

Read the freaking codex. It specifically says they are all Terran recruits during the Scouring.
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>>54908646
You failed horrendously. 8e Codex rules are streamlined, short, and simple.
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>>54906974
No. Primaris Marines are eight foot plus. Space Marines on average per word of god are 7 foot.
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>>54908567
> a God damn wall of text for each
Yeah no.
DA: Grim resolve, which will be a copy paste of Fallen rule minus the no more than one morale; jink, as is; unforgiven, as is
SW: no idea. Something involving fucking wolves.
BA: +1 S on the charge. Maybe, MAYBE one unit engaged in combat may be chosen to strike first (Slaanesh light for the old +1 I on the charge)
The money will be I the strats man. DA might get a better overwatch strat, or a teleport strat similar to Tau HOMING beacon.
SW will get a Not Outflank! A unit strat similar to RG infiltrate
BA might get a cheaper fight interrupt. Or a deep strike and move strat (old descent of angels).
8th is all about them strats son!
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The real question is are they taller than Gabriel Angelos?
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>>54908720
>8e Codex rules are streamlined, short, and simple.
Wonder why there have been so many FAQs and erratas.
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>>54908654
>riding some dudes dick on a Malyasian raft renting board
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>>54908533
>can't be locked in melee
It might be a long shot, but I think itll be k
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>>54908751
Because interactions rather than rules text are complicated, or the proofreaders didn't do their fucking jobs and left typos/omitted material.
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>>54908126
Greenwing = intractable gunlines
Why do we think we got overwatch and morale buffs in previous editions.
RW will probably stay as is, for DW they're fine for the most part. All they need is for the reroll against fallen to be changed for heretic astartes so it's not completely useless. But then that'd mean they don't get rerolls against fallen so fuck if I know.
Also no. Don't be one of those fucks who wants everything in their army to be great just because. DW terminators are solid and DW knights wreck EVERYTHING in melee. Leave as is
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>>54908751
Because most players are even more simple
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>>54908646
And you did a terrible job at it, kek.
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>>54908705
>>54908726
GW has stated that in full battle plate marines are 2.5 metres (8'2") tall. This was way back.
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>>54908749
Of course not with his three foot forehead.
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>>54908774
stop anon, i can only get soo hard.

But don't you need troops to not lose due to sudden death
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>>54908631
At that point, I'd rolled up pretty much all his forward units, then I took down the FF and Champ and it was pretty clear he wasn't going to be able to get anywhere near my score before I wiped his assorted characters (and crab) off the board. He conceded a glorious victory to the Omnissiah and we all packed up and went for a drink.

Final score was 9:4 to me, and I had all six Battle Servitors, both my characters and the Dunecrawler uninjured to his Chaos Lord, 1W Sorceror and Defiler, two of which hadn't moved all game so were still way back.

Man of the match probably goes to the Skitarii Alpha who beat up a WE champion without a Melee canticle, but the Dominus did a pretty good job at Volkite sniping too. Really it was pretty even, although the Infiltrators certainly didn't pull their weight. Didn't kill a thing and let the Bloodletters get closer faster off the Consolidate.

His MotM was almost certainly the Predator who sniped the shit out of my Kastelans and blew half my backline up turn two. Defiler was properly terrible, though. Net worth was one wounded Kataphron which I then healed, and unlike the Infiltrators it wasn't even just crappy generalship, it hardly hit a thing.
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Did GW forget to do a FAQ for the new Codexes?
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>>54908773
>Being this booty blasted during a native american dream weaving ceremony
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>>54908795
> mah olde fluff
Get out. Manlets are now 5'10" in power armor. Chadmarines are 8'2" in power armor.
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>>54908812
>literally 2 in the OP post
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>>54908823
C-C-Combo breaker!
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>>54908520
you suck a fat faggot dick?
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>>54908714
>all terran recruits
but the chad captain in dark imperium is from the realm of ultramar
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>>54908823
> gurgling this many balls while participating in a Scandinavian reindeer grooming competition
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>>54908836
Most FAQ's answers are for the sort of people that just read the start and end of a sentence and then guess at the content.
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>>54908795
No they did. GW has always mainted the seven foot statistic, eight feet is retardation spawned by the Black Library. The Jew Goodwin drawing is 7 feet.
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>>54908774
What if the opponent simply goes around it?
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>>54908714
You mean the bit about Crimson Fists receiving recruits? It sounded more like he selected those Terrans for their compatibility with Fists and Dorn's organs, than ALL 30k Primarines being of Terran stock.
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>spend £300+ on imperial guard plus painting/basing mats
>they send me all the models
>but my painting mats, palette, glue, sprue cutters etc all get delayed for 3 weeks

I feel like the caliph, captured by Hulagu Khan, starving surrounded by gold. Reeeee.
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>>54908861
>tonsil boxing a prolapsed anus this hard in a Ukrainian military coup
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>>54908881
you don't have a FLGS to get paint?

the other things you can pick up at a super market
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>>54908901
I prefer ordering things online, not leaving the house.
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Holy moly these guys are huge
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>>54908913
God it is fucking hilarious how terrible the manlets look in a side-by-side like this.
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>>54908913
>marinlets are now considered WAAC because they always get cover
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>>54908913
>white

gtfo
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>>54908477
>>54908286

I figured I'd do one since I had the pictures ready and anon said he didn't mind. I guess if people would rather not I won't bother next time, but it's kinda fun to do.
Also, I am repainting this whole army, so there will be paint on them in the near future. Just need to find a suitable tub for the meths spirit.

On a side note, I also picked up a box of Kairic Acolytes to convert into a big group of electro-priest counts-as Combat Servitors. Other than Kataphron Claws, the odd Ruststalker weapon and maybe a couple Marine Thunder Hammers, can anyone think of anything else that might work as a weapon for those? Kinda trying to go for a "mishmash Forge Militia" look.
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>>54908912
enjoy your three weeks
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>>54908938
>saying wh*te without censoring
IT'S A FUCKING BLUE BOARD YOU RACIST
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>>54908508
with that many woulds I wouldn't play you in anything less than a 2000 turn game
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>>54908897
> filming this out of focus during a Ugandan midget bukkake shoot
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>>54908631
What is this chaos player even doing? How can he ever even base or paint this forgefiend if it's stuck to the base? How can he stomach playing in a store with an entirely unpainted pile of trash?

So embarrassing. If I see even one painted unit I assume someone is just Wip on a new army, but this is crazy.
>>
Are Scourges any good this edition? I love their models.
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>>54908929

It continues to baffle me that people can see these models side by side and call the old marines the bad ones.

You know Astartes don't have human proportions, right? You're familiar with the 40k setting?
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>>54909025
they're pretty good, give them 4xdark lances and park them somewhere safe
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>>54908955
I like your reporting posting.

You're wip, which is fine. Your opponent is just a disgusting, non painting plebian, which is intolerable to most people.
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>>54909032
>marineletfags this BTFO
Holy fuck dude calm down, I can practically hear your voice about to break and start crying
>>
>space marines are so badass, they're the best of the best, the emperors finest
>oh look we found superior genes and can make these marines who are all way better look at that
>>
Can someone explain why GW makes a mixture of shitty resin models and decent plastic ones? Why not just go with nothing but plastic?
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>>54906938
no, they have a boltgun with a modified statline, which means when they trade that away they lose it.

deathwatch still can use SI ammo on combis, and it is one of the reasons deathwatch aren't complete dumpster fodder right now.
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>>54909099
resin is better for small scale production
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>>54908975
turkposter pls go
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>>54909099
plastic is fucking expensive to make the molds

shitty resin models are usually a hold over from when they switched away from metal but didn't want to lose half their model range
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>>54908996
>Tailgating this close during a Nigerian fetus drag race
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>>54909079
And it took 10k years to create a couple hundred thousand of them, whereas in a few decades after the Unification Wars, the Emperor had millions of marines to throw at the galaxy and was able to keep pumping out millions more to replenish the crusading legions.
>>54909099
There's no need when the finecast shit sells at probably a hundred a year per model.
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>>54909032

take a step down-i mean back, breath
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>>54909049
Then why not just use a ravager instead?
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>>54909146
and they didn't give any to the lamenters because screw em
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>>54909099
Because making plastics for things that they won't sell large amounts of would be fucking retarded.
Despite what reverend david moore thinks, making plastic models is not cheap. The molds in paticular are rather expensive IIRC
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>>54909159
one more dark lance, 5 points cheaper

i run 3 of both :D
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>>54909077
>>54909151

Jesus you people misread my tone.
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>>54908006
why don't you have your dunecrawler on its base? cheater
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>>54909208

>going at this height- i mean length to bait people
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>>54909079
if they are so great then why can't they drive tanks? Or fit in land raiders? Or ride bikes?

They are purpose built mono-task meatdrones like 40k yapoos.
>>
Sisters of Battle > Cadians > Militarum Tempestus > Catachan > Space Marines > Primaris Marines > Adeptus Mechanicus

desu
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>mfw I realized that a box of Neophyte Hybrids makes a fantastic Necromunda gang

>10 Shotguns
>10 Autoguns
>Heavy Stubber
>mining tools and knives for CCWs
>lots of "gang"-looking heads with minimal mutations
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>>54909347
>inverse order of manliness
I agree 100%.
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>>54909347

nah real non-plebeian order here

Krieg > Astra Militarum = Militarum Tepestus = Catachan > Primaris Marines > Space Marines > Adeptus Mechanics

SoB aren't included because I don't feel like holding down the ">" key for a century
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>>54909398
>adeptus mechanicus
>manly
What
>>
Is a nob's body big enough to make a warboss out of or am I going to have to suck it up and buy a box of ogryns?
>>
>>54909021
You know, I'm not sure. He's got considerably more experience than me, and judging from his Chaos Lord and his 30k Angron he CAN paint well. I guess he just prefers building stuff.

>>54909069

Fair enough. I'll keep working through my bloops until they're all up to speed, though. Got a squad of Ruststalkers done to what I think is a pretty good standard in my green scheme already, so hopefully when I've stripped and redone my overprimed Kataphrons with the wonders of rattlecan Leadbelcher they'll look a lot better. Dunecrawler also needs the gun repaired, since it was dropped and the anchor lugs broke off. Stripping it will be a good opportunity to get a magnet and some greenstuff in there.

>>54909258

Since the legs come with a nice complicated and fiddly assembly mechanism so they can move around, I figured that then gluing them solid to the base would be a bit of a waste of effort. When I get another couple Dunecrawlers eventually I'll probably do the base up along with the tank, so I don't overlap where the bases would be when setting up those 6" dakka bubbles Admech are so fond of.
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Can unmarked chaos characters summon god specific daemons?
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>>54909347
shit taste senpai
AdMech > Primarines > Scions > Sisters > Cadians = Catachans > Marinelets
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>>54908508
How is this 500pts but 5000 PL. What are you doing wrong?
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>>54909428
>>54909399
>>54909347

Why are Admech so low? They give themselves and their enemies mutual cancer so the enemy is weaker when headbutted with those sweet sallet helms. That's worth at least a couple manliness points.
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>>54909361
Literally the first person to ever think that.
Tell me when you invent using DV cultists.
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>>54909533

>manliness
>literal robots
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>>54909480
A g e o f S i g m a r M e g a b o s s
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>>54909548
Eh. The Cultists look too filthy for actual gangs. I think they and a Fantasy Nurgle Lord would make a great Scavvies gang, but I have serious doubts about Scavvies and Spyrers making it into Nu!Necromunda
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>>54909557
He looks like he's wearing mega armour though and I don't want my boss to have that
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>>54909480
Buy the Ogryns and send the extra two sprues to me
>>
Since "OP is a faggot" is an immutable law of the universe, some chucklefuck created a new general way too early and didn't link it.

>>54909199

Migrate when necessary or whatever.
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>>54909589
Then take the Warchanter. Still bigger than a Nob but less bulky armour.
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>>54909132
> ingesting this much hair during a Persian Goggle fashion show
at first I hated you anon. But now I LOVE YOU, because you are my brother. Well played
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>>54909361
>>lots of "gang"-looking heads with minimal mutations

Even the most obvious mutations are just forehead ridges which can be filed down or covered with a greenstuff bandana or something
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>>54909588
They did mention all core and expansion gangs would be back
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>>54909614
If I wanted a monopose piece of crap I would've just got the 40k warboss
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>>54909619
>Riding my dick this hard on an anonymous american message board
I was never him, he gave up ;^)
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why are they so pure, /tg/?
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>>54907689
>>54907677
We've always been kinda shit, and I say that as a guy who's had an AdMech army since 1e. At least now we get some unique things again instead of jerking it with half-assed IG muhduders.
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>>54909726
Then you are my brother
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>>54908901
>the other things you can pick up at a super market
You cannot get sprue cutters at the super market. You might get some piece of shit side cutters but you will not get proper flush ground clippers that leave you with minimal cleaning up to do.

If you're using those piece of shit wire cutters bin them and get some proper clippers. They're only a few pounds and will save you so much time.
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>>54909764
> has a face tattoo
> pure
These things are not compatible
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>>54909199
>>54909199

Another fucking retard OP who makes thread and doesn't link.

Just go to it, save us trouble.
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>>54907387
>infiltrators
leadership increased to 10
>ruststalkers
slaughtersprint: once per game a unit of ruststalkers may charge even if they advanced in the movement phase
transonic weapons: after one battle round in combat, ruststalkers gain -2 ap.
>dragoons
-2 ap on weapons or 5 attacks each. small points increase maybe needed for these buffs.
>vanguard
Will of the Omnissiah: Vanguard leadership increased to 10 within 6" of a friendly tech priest.
>rangers
-1ap on all shots, cost increased to 12ppm, also gain Will of The Omnissiah
>Dominus
cost reduction to about 100 pts
>electro priests
really they just need a transport. They're great if they make it to the enemy.
>breachers
cost reduced to 40ppm
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>>54909399
swap krieg and catachan
put primaris below mechanicus
replace astra militarum with imperial guard
militarum tempestus can stay because glory boys need their fancy titles

I may disagree with you on most of your list but I respect your opinion and think you are a handsome and clever individual.
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>>54908233
>Khorne cares not for your iron warriors keyword

I must meditate on this.
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>>54909795
>You cannot get sprue cutters at the super market.

make sure to get citadelâ„¢ brand products goyim.

falling for the meme.
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Anyone have some interesting suggestions for a Scions paint scheme? Sort of stuck on how I want to paint them, and then carry that scheme over to a guard army in some fashion.
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Got around to painting Yarrick other than the laser eye which I fat brushed, how does it look?
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>>54911420
My kitchen has must better lighting
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>>54908003
Seriously a talking sword should at least cause you warning.
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>>54908142
So Chaos players are all a bunch of whining, backstabbing, daddy issue asperger full children supersoldiers?
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