Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

I like kroot. Anyone have the old Gnarloc rules on pdf or is it in one of these links?

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First for Nids i guess. Any body feel like hazarding a guess at the next 6 codexes?
SW
Nids
IG
Orks
Craftworld eldar
AdMech

>>54900050
Weren't eldar next after GK?

>>54899974
Based op posting blanche cover art.

I want to fill an eldar with my gene seed

>>54900050
Tsons confirmed soon
No orks this year aswell

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>>54899974
>Posting based blanchian art from when 40k was a grimdustrial game about a hopeless fight against unstoppable odds where even the 'good guys' were actually running a fascist empire that would make Orwell weep. (that's an author of paper books 8e fans)
>Now the fluff is about a pretty boy Mary Sue and his Mary Sue army who go around beating all the Saturday morning cartoon bad guys.
>Posting the boxset of 3rd edition when the game was a tactical and strategic meeting of minds , where units were unique and all had their own role which required a combined arms approach to achieve victory.
>Now the game is about moving your oversized , overpowered models towards eachother and rolling dice until one of you dies. With all units being a homogenised identical mass and elements such as positioning, cover and strategy being meaningless.
>So many feels, so much lost.

>>54899974
Is the guy with red trim meant to be a sergeant? Do Black Templars still use red trim or is it only for sword brethren now?

>>54900142
>>54900085
When was this said? I didnt know they had said anything about releases yet

Anyone have a pure primaris army? What does your list look like?

>>54900050
1 xenos getting it this year
cogboys defs not getting it this year from gw
the only non sm factions confirmed getting something this year are cogboys (FW) and tau (FW), with the only non marine codex from gw this year up for grabs

>>54900164
Tsons teased on the FB page in replies

Orks if you read their blog thoroughly

>>54900164
facebook reply and about tzeentch powers, was posted as a screenshot

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>>54900050
Here is the back of my trygon if anybody even cares.

>>54900050
I'd rank Xenos armies in this order of likelihood:

Eldar
Orks
Tyranids
Deldar
Necrons

>>54900200
Nice work.

>>54900195
>>54900187
Fucking gay. I wish they would just do the main factions instead of making everyone else wait 6+ months because they need to release 4-5 SM books and 4-5 CSM books. Its not that i expect anything less, its just a little draining knowing ive got to wait till probably mid next year for a codex while they pump out shit for 2 factions

>>54900228
>no genestealers
>no tau
>no harlequins
>no ynnari

>>54900231
Cheers m8, it needs a touch up for sure though

>>54900247
depending on whether you play tau or cogboys you will get fires of cyraxus by end of the year which will be nice, though I expect the balance of the units in there to be completely fucked up since FW balanced stuff so that one edition you have an unkillable waac robot that next edition becomes a ludicrously expensive paperweight

>>54899974
Plastic escher before plastic sisters, oh my word

>>54900252
They're all so interesting I forgot they exist.

>>54900252
>Ynnari in Eldar codex
>Harlequins in DEldar codex

>>54900262
>fires of cyraxus
Never ever releasing

>>54900247
They were teasing daemons on twitter as well, so I'd say SW, TS and CD to come after DG.
>>54900310
This. I don't think it was mentioned once during the FW open day.

What should be my end goal for my SM chapter be. I got some terminators, dreads and scouts, with some rhinos on the way. But what should I look into investing in after that?

>>54900337
Get some sternguard. Bitches love sternguard.

>>54900337
Any particular chapter or theme?

>>54900337
3 knights

>>54900379
>not 5
What are you a commie?

>>54900337
Which chapter?

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https://discord.gg/TuUDbxf

Dark Eldar Discord

>>54900050
In no paticular order
Blood Angels
Space Woofs
Dark Angels
Tsons
Emps Childrens
Daemons

>>54900252
>genestealers
>harlequins
>ynnari

Sub-factions of the NPCs.

>>54900386
5 don't fit well in 2k lists.
>>54900337
Roboute Guilliman

>>54900393
Remove EC and you're sadly probably right

>>54900393
Replace daemons with deathwatch and gooood

>>54900393
Meant craft world wldar omstead of emps kids

>>54900374
>>54900389
No theme yet. I've just been play testing a few chapters with a buddy, but nothing seems too outstanding.

>>54900059
you realize you can have both the combi-bolters and meltaguns and fire them all at the same time? You don't have enough points left over to have all of your bike squads have them, but 4/6 isn't bad.

>>54900180

Battalion detachment 100 pl

Primaris Captain 7
Primaris Librarian 7

5 intercessors 5
5 intercessors 5
5 intercessors 5

Redemptor Dreadnought 10

3 interceptors 10
3 interceptors 10

5 hellblasters 8
5 hellblasters 8

Stormtalon 9
Repulsor 16

Pretty casual list but effective enough mostly as the Repulsor is hilariously overpowered.

>>54900433
I'd try either primaris, intercessors, reivers or aggressors would all work well with what you have. Some anti tank would be good if you're not running it on the dreads, so devastators, hell blasters (keep them bear a captain) or predators could help too

>>54900469
Thanks m8. Will do

>>54900393
>Space Marines
>Gross Space Marines
>Space Marines
>Space Marines
>Egyptian Space Marines

>tfw on turn one you teleport in your throwaway terminator Chaplain and th/ss assault terminators right into the thick of your opponent's deployment to bait your opponent into wasting turns to kill them off so the rest of your army can harass and take objectives
>it works
>opponent throws his walord away after tunnel visioning
>termie chaplain loses three wounds for the entire game and not a single assault terminator dies
Post MVP unit stories, anons

>>54900441
>using PL

What's it like being literally retarded?

>>54900393
>Emps Childrens
They're not getting their own codex for at least a year from now.

>>54900155

This is fantastic bait.

>>54900228
I wish that the GW website out of stock/no longer available messages were more reliable. That way you could take them as indicators of what will either be discontinued or get new kits in the near future.

If that was reality it would be interesting to note that the Succubus, Haemonculus and Venom are all no longer available where they are sold out, as are Hive Tyrants, Tyanid Warriors and single boxes of Carnifexes. The craftworld Farseer and the Cadre Fireblade are too. You could take that to mean there may be planned releases, or re-releases of those things.

If I were to guess I'd say GW might be planning to bundle more web-exclusive single models together into box sets like the AoS Collegiate Arcane box and 40k kits like the GSC Broodcoven. Fuck knows about the Venom and the tyranids though. Although the Hive Tyrant in the indexes does feature new wargear options it didn't previously have and Tyranid warriors seem to be one of the most frequently changed kits in the game.

But this is just wild speculation based on a known to be inaccurate thing, so obviously take it to be absolute fact and write articles for it on BoLS

>>54900528
Nigger has nobody told you: don't get (you)s on your own supply.

>Space Marines
>Vampire Space Marines
>Closet Space Marines
>Alien-Specializing Space Marines
>Daemon-Specializing Space Marines
>Viking Space Marines
>Golden Eagle Space Marines
>Spikey Space Marines
>Egyptian Space Marines
>Gross Space Marines

NPCs may have to wait until next year.

We also have
>Skull-Collecting Space Marines
and
>Loud Space Marines
to look forward to!

>>54900534
For what it's worth, a redshirt told me yesterday most of the dark Eldar stuff was being repackaged as drukhari hence it's infrequent appearances in the actual store and it's on off webstore showing

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>>54900504
>Mfw I have a unit of 20 Khorne berserkers just for this shit

>>54900510
Making more of a point about how for a while all i think we are are getting is chaos wank and SM wank while every other faction will have to wait upwards of 12 months for their codex

>>54900561
That sounds entirely likely. The same is also true for Carnifexes (they come on far too small circular bases and need to be reboxed to match the shield of baal and brood ones with oval bases).

>>54900571
Emps Children's codex will be getting released next to the Ynnari codex.

>>54900504
Fo4 me its my mawlocs. Godamn they are a great distraction unit. Sure they dont fuck tanks, backlines or even infantry really but they sure as fuck spook the enemy every single time. They always choose to deal with the mawlocs instead of the advancing gaunts and gene stealers giving me an extra turn for my gribblys to make the way up the field un harmed

So did they remove the basic troop with transport deal from the webstore?

>>54900050
hopefully deathwatch soon

>>54900589
I also heard that new battleforce force boxes and new start collecting boxes are coming

>>54900633
Eldar and DW would be nice, my sales posts haven't seen a single nibble since the Indexes landed.

>>54900636
That makes sense since they all contain out of date rules.

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>>54900504
>that time when my squad of cultists with autoguns managed to take out a squad of Necron Warriors, Lychguard, and a fucking Overlord by themselves without losing a single model the entire game

Who needs daemon princes when you have a bunch of guys with shitty rifles

>>54900653
>sales post
?

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>>54900657
>>54900636
Would be nice if they repack every unit box to contain a First Strike style Datasheet.

Will encourage new purchases over re-sale and they are damn handy.
(though units like Plaguermarines might struggle with theirs already full-page list of unit specific wargear.)

>>54900688
>without losing a single model the entire game
Attrition too low
Time for some decimations

>>54900693
A post for selling goods, usually on traditional forums or social media.

>>54900700
They probably will. AoS boxes already do that

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>>54900706

>>54900700
I just want more savings boxes to be honest. The tyranid swarm box was actually pretty good by GW standards

Chaos bikers dont seem to be able to into melee. Why? I thought csm was supposed to be more melee than sm.

>>54900741
What do you mean? They can take chain swords instead of pistols and don't loose their special weapons or combi-bolters.

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>>54900504

>mfw some fool tries to deep-strike his Terminator-Captain and TH/SS Termies directly into the heart of my deployment zone, but he can't because he can't place them closer than 9'' and my scout squads are screening my entire board edge
>mfw my opponent ends up deep-striking them into his deployment zone because he has no choice and ends up walking them across the board

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>He paints with brushes

>>54900717
Main issue is that several 8th edition unit boxes have already launched without them, so either they'll have to

>make 2.0 boxes of 8th units (cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth of player that have been "literally robbed at gunpoint by gamesjewshop" because they didn't include a laminated sheet of cardbard.)

>release them independently (cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth of players that have been "literally robbed at gunpoint by gamesjewshop" because they have to pay for a laminated sheet of cardbard that they will literally die without.)

>release them for free for the "old" kits (cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth of sharholers that have been "literally robbed at gunpoint by gamesjewshop" because they gave away free laminated sheet of cardbard)

So. Bikers in melee, why or why not?

Does anyone know how the icon of despair and the night lords legion trait interact? Do they stack or not?

>>54900772
What face is that?
Staring blankly into space?

>>54900777
>he uses anything other than sharpies and markers

>>54900784
>why
Tougher
Faster into melee
Can tie up units you don't want roaming freely

>why not?
Give up mobility
Risk death by tarpit
Normally better ranger weapons than melee

>>54900784
Be more specific, what bikers

>>54900800
>he doesn't do finger painting

Hello plebs

Rolled 5 (1d6)

What should I ally with my Death Guard?

1. Word Bearers
2. Black Legion
3. Nurgle Daemons
4. Alpha Legion
5. Fabius Bile
6. Night Lords

>>54900790
The community post says they stack.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/02/legion-focus-night-lords-aug-2gw-homepage-post-2/

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>>54900809
>Not painting with blades of grass

If you count custards as a powered armour flavour we can have this year's 10 dexes all power armour

>>54900808
Chaos in this case. Was consdering a Chaos army and going biker heavy.

>>54900777
>>54900800
Real man no paint with hairy stick. Man who paint with finger real painter. Only paint on rock of cave face. Little men made of not rock are for men who sneak to back of cave to have grunt grunt with each other.

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>>54900814
Congrats

Fabius Bile is awesome

An AdMech codex would be nice. Ive given up any hope of a non forgeworld new unit. While the power armour gimps get about 10 new models pulled out of their fucking ass the "advanced technology" faction has 1 tank and 1 type of robot for heavy support

Yes I am mad and butthurt

>>54900814
>T6 plague marines, T7 with Mortarion aura
nice

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>>54900809
>he doesn't make the paint himself with berries and other natural materials

>>54900820
>he doesn't use traditional handmade Nepalese oxen hair brushes

>>54900840
>the "advanced technology" faction
The quotes are very apt, and the admech are the hyper-orthodox ancient tech faction.

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>>54900843
>Mortarion aura

?

>>54900827
The renegade trait would make that pretty doable. You chainswords are good but you're going to be reliant on stratagems and characters for your big hitters

>>54900809
>not dipping your tongue into the paint and then applying it onto your model

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>>54900050
I think it'll be Death Guard. But it should really be Necrons, since they seem to be the most broken right now.

>>54900840
Yeah it aucks anon. I have hope for admech getting some new units though. Probably a transport of some description ptobably with a fuck ton of legs

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>>54899974
Did you seriously create a new general without linking it in the old thread?

How do you remember to breath being this fucking inbred?

Anon, what edition was best? In gameplay? In balance between simplicity and depth?

>>54900849
Our only named character spent ten thousand years building fucking chad marines and rowboat girlymans dressing robe or some shit

>>54900873
>Do you seriously need a link to find a new general?

>How do you remember to breathe being this fucking inbred?

>>54900850
Mortarion is supposedly going to possess a +1T toughness aura to certain models around him. If it's true it'll make Deathshroud fucking retarded strong.

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>>54900873
>what is catalog
It seems you made it here unfortunately

>>54900827
What legion tactic?

I was wondering the same thing with renegades. I could advance 20", blast them with three flamers (1 combi) and... charge?
Strikes me, as you get to fire the combi- bolters and flamers it's a waste to put them in melee with 3d6 flamer hits and 16 bolter shots. You can just sit right in their faces and dakka them death while you're too dangerous to charge.

>>54900883
bump

>>54900506
What's it like being a grognard who can't get with the times?

PL is the future of the game. Honestly when you add up any list it pretty much always equals whatever the points should be. 50 PL is 1k , 100 is 2k and you don't have to fuck around adding your little melta bombs to your sergeants because who has time for that ?

Unless you're some WAAC faggot who can't stop themselves putting combi weapons on everything just because they can.

>>54900861
A transport or a tougher tank would be sweet. Like maybe an 8 leg walker with either a decent troop capacity or swap the transport ability for a decent cannon

>>54900849
They are the tech faction. Everything is made by them.
Land Raider? They make it. Hoover tank? They make it.
Chad weapons? Cogwork.


Also they are not monolithic, there are a shit ton of factions and cults.

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>>54900889
>>54900894

>>54900764
Meanwhile dw bikers get two attacks and can take power swords.

>>54900883
Only played 2, 3 and 8. 2 had a lot of fun goofy shit but was ultimately herohammer, 3 had a sound structure but not great balancing for codexes. 8 feels best but I honestly haven't played enough to make a proper call on it yet.

>>54900904
>Unless you're some WAAC faggot who can't stop themselves putting combi weapons on everything just because they can.

Nah, he's the sort of faggot who can only ever get games WITH WAAC faggots, because he's too insufferable to get a steady group or club.

>>54900918
They even build the special snowflake weapons for the grey knights. They build almost every single vehicle, weapon and piece of armor in the imperium.

Weve got 1 tank

>>54900826
GW as usual.
More of what already sells. Gotta get them neckbeard shekels.

>>54900936
>>54900918
They are hypocritical retarded religious fanatics, like Al-Qaeda, no qualms about being opium farmers and sellers but will kill anyone among them who indulges.

>>54900936
>We've got one tank
But don't you also have exclusive access to gimp-piloted AT-STs that never stop running?

>DG dont get exalted champion or dark apostle
Man alpha legion can take noise marines but I cant buff my poxwalkers? No fun allowed.

>>54900935
Yeah I've found this with points Vs power levels. Only WAAC faggots really care about using points.

Only person who complained about our club going fully over to power level was the only tournament player in the group because he was worried that some armies would be able to take an extra plasma gun for free against other armies , the rest just found it made life a lot easier

>>54900963
Dark Apostles never should have been available to anyone but Word Bearers.

>>54900958
Please anon....dont remind me

>>54900978
The fuck? They are a staple for alpha legion and black legion too plus being an edgy chaplain fits all the legions save TSons, Night Lords and emps children. Even then children and night lords might do it ironically.

>>54900764
>loose their special weapons or combi-bolters.
>loose

Do they throw them at the enemy?

>>54900925
Wish Chaos got an elite biker unit, sort of like a warp talon but bikers.

>>54901024

I'm going to model some guys with throwing arms and the bolter glued to their hand by the barest tip to look like they're all hurling guns at people.

I really want to use Custodes but since their roster is so small, I'll just use them to fill the Big Infantry Guys gap of some other imperial army
Would Sisters or maybe Scions work alright?

>>54901029
Are Bloodcrushers and Seekers not good enough for you?

>>54901056
I guess that depends on whether you consider imperial guard to be part of the space marines.

>>54900777
I bet that you are one of those who unboxes and assembles miniatures. I put my unopend box on the table, and it is full wysiwyg from there

>>54901056
They're chaos. They won't be happy until they have everything the loyalists with spikey marines on/in them

>>54900997
Anon's talking about back in the holy days of 3.5e, where Dark Apostles were Word Bearer specific, or even just the lore where Dark Apostles were Word Bearer specific/the only legion to not kill their Chaplains after betraying the Emperor.

>>54901081
>he plays games instead of just talking about it on 4chan

>>54901047
Thematically sisters are decent but its hell to build an army of them. IG or manlet marines are your best bet.

>Not paying people to paint your models to a high standard while you earn ~500$ every day doing nothing.

Plebs.

>>54900963
>alpha legion can take noise marines
WITH CATLIKE TREAD, [crash]
Upon our prey we steal! [crash]
In silence dread, [crash]
Our cautious way we feel! [crash]

>>54901122
Not earning 90 a day through hard labor and missing most gaming nights? Pleb.

What does WAAC mean anons?

>>54901154
win at any cost
perhaps this is a waac way of gaining (you)(s)

>not paying Golden Demon winners to paint your army while you browse for netlists earning ~$600 per day
Video related. My guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FayBHOhucf0

>>54900843

How do you get t6 plague marines?

>>54901162
Thanks dude

>54901154
fucking lurk more and learn how to google

no (you) for you

>>54901164
>not killing yourself so that someone worthwhile can buy your army secondhand when your relatives sell it

Anyone got any advice on building a Ynnari list? I picked them for a slowgrow league I'm playing in because I thought they seemed cool, but the amount of choice is kind of overwhelming me.

>>54901190

>waac

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>having others paint your models
>having others make your lists
>not having someone feed you tendies and roll your mercury-weighted dice for you

>>54901190
What's a Slowgrow League? And I'm curious about this too; I play DEldar mainly, but have been branching into Harlequins and Craftworlds lately, and Ynnari seem like a natural step.

>>54900977
That's actually my concern as well, but I learned PL only really provides a big advantage to tyranids, who can get hella good options while maintaining a low PL. but seeing as how no one in my area plays nids, I'm fine with doing just PL games

>>54900315
New FoC pictures were leaked a couple of days ago.

>>54901170
Typhus' aura

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>>54900840
>>54900849
Honestly if I can finally use >all< of my 1e Robot maniples again I'll be happy enough.

>>54901196
Its less waac and more Ive never touched any sort of eldar before and I dont want to get my shit pushed in every week by the netlisting necron player.

>>54900180
>Garbage

>>54901216
That only affects Poxwalkers.

>>54901190
Get 3 units of 5 wraithguard, the Yncarne, and a farseer, with 2 fully kitted wave serpents for a battalion detachment. Use the wave serpents to transport the wraiths to some big target, shoot your S10 guns, and intentionally goad the enemy into killing you so you can shoot again. Use your remaining 700pts on distraction units. The 5th placer of the Bay Area Open ran that, and the only ones who placed over him were conscript spammers.

Good luck

>>54901205
Usually; Build, paint and play 500 point "tourney", next time its 600-700 and so on.

>>54901256
Sounds fun. Too bad our local scene doesn't even have enough players for Konor.

>>54901226
A few robot chasis with one or two loadout option would be nice

>>54901206
PL is fucking op for tau as well
we had tourney in my local gw and it was PL, every single game I tailored my list since I was running battlesuits and FW flyers which all have variable loadouts.
kind bullshit how op tau are since they can list tailor like a bitch at the tabletop with suits.
On another note:
Elysian Drop troops have some of the most overcosted PL units in the game right now.
1 PL is approximately 20 points right?
Well have a look at these shiny shit examples of overcosted units:
Elysian sniper team: 21 points/3PL, cannot change any wargear so is always 21 points
Elysian company commander: 40 points/3PL, cannot be brought to more expensive than 55 points with suboptimal loadout
Vulture with pretty much any loadout that isn't lascannons and skystrike missiles: 190 points/11 PL
Officer of the fleet: 25 points/2PL
Company command squad: with 4 meltas is 76 points/4PL, less points with other loadouts though still 4PL
a standard 2000 point list is 125 PL, which should be 2500 points
kinda bullshit

>>54901261
Kondor is trash for half the playerbase though.

Chaos fight an uphill battle againt a faction with three times the books and five timew the units and Xenos can't acheve anything for themselves, only try to slightly bump the real players game.

>>54901272
Just one mroe would do: a lighter faster one, to the kasllans bulky slowness. Something like the vorax for 30k: T6, 3/4 attacks, either with LC or radiation flamers, something like this

>>54899974
can you pick several artefacts of chaos but on different characters?

like one dude gets a murder sword and another one gets the eye of tzeentch. the wording seems to apply you cant?

>>54900502
thats just how it be unfortunately

>>54901285
I know Konor is trash. I'm just using that to emphasize how small the local scene is. Maybe 8-10 semi-regular players.

>>54901293
You can, but only by useing that stragem that lets you. Otherwise its one relic per army

Aren't a couple of 30k robits just updated versions of the old robits? Depending on what's in FoC you may get close.

>>54901285
>Xenos can't acheve anything for themselves, only try to slightly bump the real players game.
I'd be very interested to see what impact the xenos had overall when konor is finished.

>>54901206
I had problems playing a harlequin player that would take entire squads with all the best melee weapons and melta pistols until I realised I could just summon loads of daemons for free.

But then he complains about that...

>>54900560
why cant they at least do daemons and Imperial shit that isn't space marines this year

>>54901300
How is 8-10 players too small for the campaign? My store is doing it with like 6 regular players.

>>54901303
ah thanks.

seems reasonable.

Is the axe of blind fury good yet

>>54901286
Give it a decent melee weapon and a heavy flamer and id be happy

>>54901322
Our store owner bases activity on any game in comparison to Magic's Standard format.

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Hey guys, look what I can do!
the game

Other than plasma is there a good setup for fallen?

>>54901317
no other form of victory should be allowed

>>54901314
My guess will be 1% for imperium, taking into account low participation and the amount of "good aligned" (Or vehemently Anti-Chaos) Xenos factions and their large playerbase.

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>>54901347
The trash

>>54901368
What I've seen in the results has always been Chaos doing jack shit and Xenos pulling their weight for them
the only reason Chaos are even still in it is because of Xenos doing everything for them

>>54901365
One of my friends and I play without victory points - victory conditions are rout the opponent, or, at the end of 5 rounds, whoever has the most points remaining on board wins.

>>54901365

In all seriousness, taking an otherwise useless unit because "It holds objectives well" is a ridiculous waste of time.

>>54901382
I hope you have data to back that up.

>>54901393
how about the megaton of screencaps posted in this very general over the course of this campaign, showing this very thing

>>54901391
grots

>tempestus command squads with 4 plasma guns and re-rolls
muh suicide units

>>54901400
Those screencaps are just pf people claiming xenis do all the work with no evidence. Its repeating a lie.

>>54901391
3 wound acolytes ftw
just hope your opponent hasn't read the errata

>>54901390
That sounds fucking miserable

>>54901414
>Elysian command squads with 4 plasma guns and rerolls
muh cheaper and more spammable suicide unit that doesn't require orders to get rerolls

>>54901400
>>54901415
None of us has more than anecdotal evidence, unless someone wants to go trawling through all the store pages on the Konor website and tallying things up.

For my part, around here the Xenos have tipped the balance in the favour of the Imperium, its pretty close otherwise.

>>54901415
those screencaps have shown the actual numbers of games won for each side though
and whenever Imperium isn't winning in the cap, you could see that Chaos itself had a tiny amount of wins compared to Imperium, when Xenos then have a number of wins equal to or greater than the Imperium

>>54901400
I can just as easily bullshit and select screencaps where Chaos carried their LGS. I want actual data not troll-speak.

>>54901420
It gives us a chance to field models and strategies in a different way than we do in normal games.

>>54901425
I'm new and retarded. Also costs a shitload of money to get FW shit to me.

Anyone got a Shadow War Armageddon pdf? Couldnt see it in the links

>>54901436
Having objectives doesn't really prevent you from running different models and having something to fight over can force you to use different strategies.

>>54901436
No objectives take all strategy out of the game.

You may as well each roll 100 dice and whomever gets the most 6s wins.

>>54901431
In individual LGS, not in the generality of the whole event. So based on the poorest of evidences you spread a lie. That's really speaks about the type of character you are. I hope you don't enter a political career.

>>54901441
>chinacast
>recasting yourself
>convert
>kitbash
>all indexes in mega
not that hard anon

Are mandrakes actually good now or was it just a meme? As in, should i take 2 units of them instead of a unit of scourges with a bunch of special weapons?

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>>54899974

>>54901449
one of the more fun games I've had was a kill team round where a bunch of my friend's guys held down an objective and set up a kill zone on the street leading up to the objective
Wasn't really a way around it so I just had to charge in for it but those hotshot volley guns are mean

>>54901455
Yeah been thinking of getting the chinese shit. I'd want the rulebooks though and wouldn't mind paying for them.
Is the chinese shit very noticable?

How big are the plastic Flash Gitz compared to other orks? Are they the same scale as Ork Nobz?

>>54901455
this
stuff like FW guard kits should only be gotten from chinamen for the price FW expects you to pay for then

>>54900200
I care. Love the colour scheme.

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>>54901461
I've heard from multiple sources not to sleep on mandrakes this edition.

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>battle report
>features Imperial Guard

>>54901469
It's fun having areas to fight over instead of just moving forward and trying to kill each other. Even kill centered victory points can be interesting when it revolves around certain units.

>>54901478
Chinamen are pretty hit & miss
for example, I recently got 2 different units from the same recaster, one of the units looks just like the real thing quality-wise; maybe a little on the light side though

The other unit is a mess with all the details bleeding into eachother etc.

>>54901434
give the razorbacks storm bolters. You might as well use some of the 5 points you have left

>>54901497
Yeah but they're not plastic are they

>>54901497
So did I anon, and the stats don't lie. Deep strike, hard to hit, 5++, great shoting with mortal wounds, decent melee. They have it all. I just thought I should hear from someone that used them in 8th first.

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in case some of you guys care, Heralds of Ruin seem to have started uploading some 8th edition Kill Team content

Right now there are the core rules and a portion of the Space Marine stuff, incl. Primaris

>>54900337
Predators, Rifleman/2xLascannon Dread, Veterans are a good options too

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>>54901520
Really know where it hurts huh?
>shameful yet soft reeeeee

>>54901536
My only problem is finding finding the little fuckers.Came close to buying old version off e-bay as a stand in. Then I'd get an in stock e-mail right after.

trying to make a 1k list, any idea what to add?

Battalion Detachment [39 PL, 774pts]

Tempestor Prime [2 PL, 40pts] x2: Tempestus Command Rod

Militarum Tempestus Scions [6 PL, 132pts] x3
5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
4x Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 68pts] x2
3x Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
Tempestus Scion w/ Medi-pack: Hot-Shot Lasgun, Medi-pack

Astropath [1 PL, 15pts]: Laspistol, Psychic Barrier

Vulture Gunship [11 PL, 162pts]
Vulture Gunship: Heavy bolter, Twin Punisher Gatling Cannons

>>54901614
do people still think that the Taurox with the Heavy 20 gun is good, or has that changed?

>>54901480
They are beefy but more squat. They are bigger than boys and perform really well.

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Has anyone tried mixing AoS Khornate parts with marine parts to make Berserkers? I'm not sure how they mesh in terms of joints and proportions.

>>54901542
HoR stopped being good, let alone relevant, a long time ago.

HoR guys are a bunch of faggots.

How could i start an Ork army? Looking for 1500 points to begin with.

>>54901503
this. Seeing IG batreps and playing against them is boring as fuck. It's always some sperg spouting memes and playing the same old two cheesy tactics while trying to abuse the fuck out of rules. I'd rather play against some SM kid

>>54901670
well buying some orks seems like a good start

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>>54901670
Any particular kind of Ork army you want? Horde of boyz, dred mob, kult of speed, etc?

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>want to have a swarm tyranid army with heaps of units
>think about having to assemble and paint it all

>>54901663
Rude.

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>>54901697
Assembling models is fun! And swarm tyranids are a snap with drybrushing and inks, and look great that way to boot!

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>>54901697
At least they don't wear clothes, have guns, metal bits, and other bits and bobs

>>54901712
But man just thinking about 3 layers and highlights etc on the carapace of every single one of them makes me want to blow my brains out. Looks fantastic though and I love my hormagaunts so much I need to do them justice

>>54901720
Agreed generally but lots of them do in fact have guns

>>54901731
Just base them and then drybrush them. At most the hard part will be two thin coats.

Assembly line painting is your friend.

>>54901614
Drop the medic with the medipacks and put another plasma gun in there. They're going to get killed after they drop in no matter what so the medic is kinda a wasted plasma.

>>54901622
It's pretty good for its price.

>>54899974
>SoB butthurt
If we keep this up the next retro update will be SoB! On the flip side now I'll have more DCA/Acolyte/Random female girl model so everything is good.

>>54901731
Basecoat, drybrush one, ink wash, dry brush two to pick out carapace and you're done. Can go back and do details later, that looks plenty good for table quality.

>>54901680
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>>54901680
>>54901503
shut the fuck up marinebabbies

>>54901749
You mean base, paint carapace then drybrush? I think the inks is a good idea for filling in quickly, but I'm not sure how to do that without losing the clean bone colour on top. (Without wiping it all every time)
>>54901765
Thanks mate

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>>54901766
fuck off sperg trash

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What are my brothers up to this week?

>>54901741
True but the gunna should be the same color as the model, usually

>>54901663
t. coscript spamming sperg

>>54901331
I rlly want to konw man

>>54901766
>IG players are literally unable to type or use 4chan
Not surprising

Who are the funnest army to fight against? Either tactics wise or because of the kind of player they attract

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Are there common stores/places I can get plasticard from or should I just order a pack of different sizes?

Finally got a day off and want to try and make my Howdah Throne

>>54901834
Tyranids. Attracts the kind that just wants to have fun with the game and try new things every time.
t. Hivemind

>>54901834
Any army can be fun to play against if the opponent doesn't make a spam list.

Dont make shit army lists and people will have fun playing against you it's really simple

>>54901834
>>54901850
This except Orks

>>54901834
Any army without psykers

>>54901878
0762?

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Does anyone have the leaks from the Death Guard codex? It was a page with their different weapon options on it.

Cheers,

>>54901139
Not earning 90 a day shitposting. Plebs

>>54901898
err...wasn't there a /tg/ chat room? this is commoragh.

>>54901853
False, facing marines of any kind is always boring as balls.

>>54901122
Painting is how I unwind from work

>>54901910
It's in the CSM codex.

>>54901644
The Khorne models for AoS are significantly bigger. About Primaris size. If you're just planning on giving them 40K arms and Chaos backpacks, they'll look fine. You may need to greenstuff, but that's it. The Khorne blood warrior line doesn't wear armor, though

>>54901962
cheers man, donesies

>>54900856
Holy shit is this an ancient Wayne England print I've never seen before?

I'm still looking for a way to convert backpacks with those rings of spikes on the smoke stacks.

>>54901309
According to lore, the current robots are actually LESS advanced than the HH era robots. Those ones had NOT AI*wink wink*. These ones have to have all their actions done by floppy disk. There is no independent thought.

>>54901963
I saw a guy running the Chaos Renegades trait on a mostly biker army. T5s rushing around everywhere felt doing lockdown charges even knowing they'd lose eventually - it like I was facing an army of Dark Eldar reavers and they all chose the Toughness combat drug. It felt new and exciting to me. A little gay, though.

>>54901980
I wonder how they'd look mixed with primaris parts then?

So, I'm reading 1d4chan for tactica (inb4 niggerfag, etc.) and came upon this for Chaos

>>Take 10 Terminators with combi-plasma, and power swords. Mark them with SLAANESH and teleport them in and activate Endless Cacophony for 40X S7/AP-3/DMG 1 shots. Take a Chaos Lord or Daemon Prince for re-rolling 1's to hit, and Sorcerer or Daemon Prince for +1 to hit with Prescience. For maximum cheese use Veteran of the Long War for +1 to wound and overcharge the plasma to 40X S8/AP-3/DMG 2!

and was wondering, is this possible? I thought you could only do 1 stratagem a round? Also is this a points-efficient use of HQ and termie units?

>>54902007
I meant to quote >>54901226 but failed to somehow.

Though the lore for the Kastelans states that they're from the DAoT so I guess they were the ASIMOs of their time.

>>54901980
you mean reavers, blood warriors definitely have armour

>>54901999
THOSE NUMBERS DON'T LIE
NAMEFAGS/ AVATARFAGS GET OUT

>>54901770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlkeURdZ8D8

If only there was this guy called Duncan who told you how to do everything.

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If I were to go to the 40k universe, what should I do to get myself an Eldar (or Dark Eldar) girlfriend?

What would it take, or is it just flat-out impossible?

>(reeee)

>>54902008
> a little gay
But anon did you like it that way

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>>54900809
>2017
>Not painting minins with your trans-vag

Recommended Vyper loadout?

I'm thinking dual shuriken cannons to make the most of its speed?

>>54902029
You can only do EACH strat ONCE per round.
So yeah it's possible. Sounds pretty brutal. Also pretty expensive.

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>>54902048
You best chance would be to find a Wych that gets off on teasing and punishing the pathetic Mon-keigh

>>54902029
Lmao

>1d4chan

Fucking nigger lol

>>54902054
This>>54902

>>54902029
1 of the same stratagem each phase, you can use multiple in the same phase if they are all different.

It's possible. That's a lot of points though, I very much prefer Plasma Chosen.

>>54901206
Yeah our Tyranid player is taking devourers on all their gaunts which would double the cost of them by points.

However he's super casual, kinda bad at the game and ground his way through playing Tyranids in the shit show of 5th, 6th and 7th so nobody really cares, just happy nids are playable again.

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>>54900777
>He paints

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>>54901644
You tell me.

>>54902058
Remember when art was good? Oh wait hasn't been good within living memory. Christ this is disgusting

>>54902090
Not bad, I'm not a huge fan of those helmets but the rest looks nice.

>>54902008
>why play against power armour dark elder when you can actually face dark Eldar
Fucking Boring.

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>>54902093
>art
>good
>ever

>>54902090
THOSE are painted really really well.
They are also some smart conversions.
It's just... something. That's a tiny bit off. I can't put me finger on it.

Whats the worst performing unit in your army that you keep bringing, either as a tax or because they "should perform well"? Mine is Kataphran Destroyers. With the sheer amount of plasma shots and decent toughness they look alright on paper but have never really shined fot me. Whats the mediocre unit you always bring /tg/?

In b4 entire tau army

>>54902109
It's the boots, isn't it? The ol' Doc Martens making you look like an alt-righter, right?

>>54902090
Too bad for the boots

>>54902113
My friend keeps bringing his Swarmlord without tyrant guard (it's on his to buy list).

Brightlances and Wraithlord melee punch holes in him.

>>54902092
>>54902058
Why? It's not even shocking or new, let alone interesting or pretty to look at. It just looks like some Unmedicated patient in the psychiatric ward.
Thank the Emperor we didn't close ours like some retard countries did.

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>>54902090
Need to change the feet. Sick marine boots on.

>>54902100
Because Chaos actually wins sometimes

>>54902113
Raptors.

>>54902113

Total opposite but on paper vindicators look awful but I bring them anyway because I'm an iron warrior.

They've been performing incredibly well. I had a game against a Tyranid player where one shot killed 3 tyrant guard and stripped about 4-5 wounds off of the swarmlord , another against a demon player where I reduced the great unclean one to a handful of wounds with one shot.

In theory laspredators should just be better in every respect but in practice my vindicators are doing oddly well in comparison.

They suck against hordes now but wreck the shit out of tanks and MCs.

>>54902117
I'm sorry I'm not hip enough to get whatever joke you are trying to make. I can't explain why but it doesn't hit me and make me think 'power armor' or even 'chaosified power armor'

>>54902109
>leather boots
>open face helmets
>no chain axes/swords
it's a pretty lazy conversion, all things considered

>>54901425
where are they getting rerolls from without orders? curious as i might start converting some elysians

>>54901963
Not old school marine armies. One tactical squad, one scout squad, one terminator squad, one bike squad with one attack bike, one speeder, one rhino, one predator, one dreadnought, one librarian and one captain... armies like that are both interesting to play and interesting to play against.

Kids don't play those armies anymore because it requires knowing the stats of more than 3 things.
>see primaris options

I guess it boils down to my original point tho, that it's the opponent more than the army.

Sucks you have a bad experience with SM players. I play Orks tho fwiw

>>54902152
The helmets I don't give a fuck about. You got dudes with a 2 plus rocking a bare head. And there probably aren't chaosy chain weapons that wouldn't look like toys in the Blood warrior arms.
Maybe it's the boots. I don't know

Man, I want to use a Slaanesh Daemon Prince/Herald combo but I feel almost like I'm shoehorning it into my army. But still it's just so fun...

Slaaneshi Daemon Prince. Give the Elixer, cast Diabolic Strength, have the Herald cast Hysterical Frenzy. End up with a Daemon Prince that has 9 Str 11 AP-2 attacks, and is fighting in both psychic and normal phases.

>>54902058
We defeated the wrong enemy in WW2

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>>54902026
Honestly i think theyd look fine just adding powerpacks, marine pauldrons and bolt pistols.
Should mix with primaris parts well enough, willl need greenstuff work.

How viable would imperial fists 9th company be, just taking devastators as all my infantry. Probably go mostly heavy bolters as my "troops" with a couple of squads with grav and lascannons for killing heavy infantry and tanks respectively.

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>>54900504

>Konor week 3
>I snuck my Swarmlord and Patriarch all the way up the board hiding behind terrain and past his entire memescript army and 1 shotted his baneblade
>he failed his real life leadership test and conceded (he was actually quite demoralised when his tank didn't even get to blow up when it died)

>>54902224
>playing with unpainted and unassembled models

Disgusting.

>>54902204
I wonder how they'd look if you use primaris legs, CSM backpacks + shoulders, and zerker heads

>>54902233
its a guard player, what'd you expect

>>54902058
I wish we could have a thread about our toy soldiers that wasn't derailed by alt right faggots trying to force in their political agenda in every thread.

Nobody gives a shit that transsexual people trigger you , examine your own lives before you start sperging out about what other adults do that harms nobody.

>>54902236
I kind of want to try that but with some of the AoS full helm heads.

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>No army fits the criteria of what I want in an army

>>54902266
what is it that you want, Anon?

>>54902220
> Germany
> intelligent, developed society
> willingly turned a blind eye to deliberate slaughter of millions
> Soviet Union
> uneducated, stupid peasant society
> slaughtered millions out of stupidity, some out of malice (mostly stupidity)
Soviet peasants were basically retarded. Your average German definitely wasn't.
German was worse.

>>54902247
>Swarmlord is an IG unit

u wot

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>>54902223
I'm actually doing a 9th Company Force myself, though I've given myself a Dreadnought and a few Techmarines to round it out. Haven't had a chance to play it yet but seems like it'd be pretty decent on paper aside from dealing with 1st turn charge armies (though running Ultramarines tactics would help with that if you're not commited to IF)

>>54902275
>> willingly turned a blind eye to deliberate slaughter of millions

Proof?

>>54902277
I'm seeing plenty more unpainted models on the guard side

>>54902274

I really want to play one of the like, iconic armies of 40k, that aren't Imperial. But orks and nids are too expensive and would require far too many models, Eldar are too hard to paint, and the rest just feel kinda tangential. The only one that seems to fit is CSM, but they're just boring, like Marines but just with less interesting choices and an ancient line of models.

>>54902266
whatcha want anon

>>54902275
>Were
Anon, they never got out of that rut

>>54902266
too hipster to live, kys

>>54902309

It's true, I am. It's the worst.

>>54902295
>Eldar
>too hard to paint

wew

>>54902295
Chaos is getting new models all the time, especially now with the whole Mortarion stuff going on, not to mention the other daemon primarchs that are going to be making a comeback

Orks you can get lots of for cheap if you know where to look, y'know, ebay and trade markets etc.
if you're a fellow yuropoor you can get discount minis from online retailers
if you're a burger, well, tough luck on the retail thing

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>>54902295
Heres a few options:

Big Nids; still expensive, but Tyranid Warrios and Genestealers are as iconic as it gets.

Eldar: Guardians aren't so hard to paint, and you could back them up with plenty of Warlocks, Farseers and Wraith units, all of which can shine with simple paint schemes. Only the Aspect Warriors are really tricky.

Orks you could go Dred Mob or otherwise heavy vehicles, again not super cheap but less models to paint.

If iconic is what you want I think a Tyranid heavy force would be best.

>>54902291
> holocaust denier
I would say back to /pol/ but let's skip that. Just jump straight to killing yourself. I'm sure enough of my tax money has already been wasted on hand outs to things like you.

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>>54902295
You're boring

Word Bearers a best

Ultramarines get out

Should i go with orks, IG or dark angels?

>>54902327

I am a yuropoor, but emphasis on the poor. I can get 10 boyz for £13.50, but for a unit of 30, that's £40.50 for what, just over 200pts of boyz? Plus Orks are fucking hard to paint too, thanks to all those little details.

>>54902336
>believing in the masturbation machines and other such fairy tales

Where are those mass graves at tho

>>54902336
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he probably meant to question the part about citizens deliberately not caring about it
his point not mine,

>>54902357
>>54902359

Fuck off back to /pol/, PLEASE.

What is the minimum amount of points army to realistically get games going or people actually wanting to play with you? I am not a rich man but I am enjoying this hobby

>>54902375

1k.

>>54902371
>get told to commit suicide
>I'm the one that needs to leave

waaa don't have different opinions.

>>54902375
500 can be playable with lots of players

>>54902295
>orks and nids too many models, therefore more expensive

Not necessarily, especially if individual marine characters costing 35 fuckin dollars in a new trend. Nids can play monster mash, too, although you'd have to ask somebody else about list building advice.

>eldar are too hard to paint
You're giving them too much credit. The quality of the sculpts is excellent and if you can stay in between the lines they'll look excellent. Shit, most dark eldar schemes are just black with edge highlighting of choice.

Consider necrons, both easy to paint en masse, and not a horde army.

Autistically arranging them into phalanx bricks and marching them around the battlefield in front of monoliths and such is pretty damn iconic.

>>54902391
>>54902371
>>54902359
>>54902357
BOY I SURE LOVE TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT IN THE THREAD ABOUT PLASTIC TOY SOLDIERS

>>54902391

That wasn't me, senpai. I just want political shit to stick to it's own board.

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Lets assume just the the sake of argument that your Codex (if it hasn't come out yet) gets one of the SM or CSM Chapter Trait equivalents copypasted wholesale for your Klan/Kabal/Craftworld

What one would you use for your army?

>>54902295
Nidzilla all mcs is an option.
Warrior heavy elite nids seems viable on paper but I haven't tried it out yet.
Tyranids don't have to be a huge swarm.

>>54902375
1000 points/50PL is good for random pick up games. Any lower can be fun but its a different dynamic.

>>54902402
What if you dont get any as GK?

>>54902395

I actually quite like necrons, but they just don't feel like 40k, you know? They just don't feel very significant, fluff-wise.

>>54902375
my friends and I have a great time playing kill teams at 250pts
>>54902353
I can tell you right off the bat, painting orks isn't hard
and if it feels hard at first, you'll get a routine going and have a good system by the time you're halfway through since you'll be painting a lot of them

you could do a thing where you buy a box, paint and assemble it and only once you're done with the last box will you buy a new one
it won't feel as bad as getting everything at once