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Paizo Games General /pgg/

Arena Edition - How would your character fare in the gladiatorial ring?

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>>54887875
>Arena Edition
Friendly Reminder that Eox supplies the bloodiest reality TV in the galaxy, and it's kickass.
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>>54887875
>anime edition fix'd

arena isn't cute
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Does your character have a waifu?
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>>54888048
It also supplies family-friendly entertainment like the Truman Show!

>>54888157
Yes, and they're very happy together.
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>>54888173
is she hot?
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>>54888107
>arena isn't cute
Sounds to me like you lack imagination.
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>>54888204
Extremely so!
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>>54887875
Poorly, unless her opponent was weak-willed and fragile.
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How do I avoid dying due rage ending as a barb/bloodrager with Raging Vitality?
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>>54888524
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Anyone have the PDF for Dead Suns #1 yet? I'm on back order and won't get the pdf until my hard copy ships but I want to start reading it already.
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>>54888905
Don't get hit enough that you're within 1-11 HP from death.
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>>54888048
>>54888173
You know what Eox also supplies?

A certain show named, "TV Stars". Except the V stands for victim. You can probably see where I'm going with this.
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>>54887875
Wreck shit up with the magic of Rime Snowball Spell Strikes at level 3.
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>>54888157
Yes, and she's the sunshine of his life
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>>54888941
Taking into account raging gives me -2 AC and I only have access to medium armors...
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>>54888942
>How do they do it? With the power of EOXIAN NECRO-MAGITECH, OF COURSE! The Victims have a 'safe zone' in the center of each floor, an elevator platform which is their home and garden! Equipped with food and drink dispensers, bunk rooms, and showers, they could live there for ages... But is it as safe as I claim? Of course not, that isn't ENTERTAINING, now is it, peons?
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>>54889007
>And YOU, good viewer... Get to make these lady's lives VERY INTERESTING, very interesting INDEED! You all know what to do! Break out your phones, rev up your bots--it's time to vote!
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>>54888942
There's something disgustingly genius about Eox canonically having sick, twisted game-shows as a major product for the Pact Worlds.

It means almost every absurd campaign concept out there, from the lewd to the ludicrous is canon, and not just canon but the GOOD kind of canon, where you're not breaking established personalities or deviating from the established timeline.
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>scifi reality tv
https://youtu.be/EsJ0lghEJoQ?t=90
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>>54888905
Wasn't there a feat that the moment you ended rage you got 1 HP per level back?
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>>54887875
Pretty well, actually. He'd just need to bring all his usual ferocity to bear and play the Heel like he always does.
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>>54888157
By a certain definition, yes.
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>>54889007
>>54889017
I'm imagining John Dimaggio and Greg Poops doing this narration and it's amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=982dFZJSnWw
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What are some cool races I can make with 15 RP?
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>>54889220
There's only one kind of waifu and that's the kind where there's true love!
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>>54888954
What's the build?
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>>54889092
Not in PF
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>>54889263
Oh, then in that case yes.
I was wondering if it was "waifu" as in "committed marriage" or as in "inanimate object" or something.
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>>54889279
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1275799
Level 3, so not particularly impressive yet. But getting to whack people in melee with snowballs is nice.
(one of the houserules is that the Close Range arcana works with any ranged touch attacks, not only rays)
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>>54889301
>his character doesn't have a 2D waifu
Fookin disgustin
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>>54889234
Oh it very well might be, but you also have to remember the host of the show is a necrolord
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>>54889307
That's pretty cool
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>>54885281
>>54885281
Psychic Warrior. Summoned weapons and armor, blast effects, self healing, non-armor defenses, all of that is covered by psychic warrior.
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>>54889379
Meh. That's 3pp and I prefer to stick to just 1pp things.
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>>54887875
Shockingly well for a witch. Beign a witch of strength makes her exceedingly dangerous in combat, especially with her mother's gifts and natural attacks combined with all her self buffs.

And since she looks about 14-16 (really delicate 16), it's pretty certain anyone she meets is not expecting her to be able to pick up a grown man in full armor and hurl him for distance with am unmodified strength of 20.
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>>54887875

Considering her favourite move was summoning hurricanes, quite well. Though audience might get a bit winded.
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>>54889427
Shouldn't she be a brick house with 20 STR?
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currently recruiting games are:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/85043/bones-and-bed-shackles (ends this week...if it is real) - lewd AP
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/85418/mint-rebels-double-treason (ends next week) - rationalist spin on Hell's Rebels AP
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84677/godslayers (ends in one month and a half) - kill gods, be mythic

Why didn't you finish your app yet, anon?
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>>54889419
I dont think it's possible to do saber 'properly' in 1pp. If I had to say she was anything I'd probably say a PoW character, or maybe an avowed.

EMIYA/Archer incantations are various versions of soulknives.
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>>54889454
I don't see why we still have the whole "if it's real" thing on S&S, bob.
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>>54889470
Mostly because it looks just like two games that were both bamboozles, and the GM has gone silent for a few days
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>>54889431
>>54889427
>>54889195
>>54888954
>>54888868
>a bunch of casters, a magus, and some kind of ferocious bear

Sounds like a party to me! Adventurers, assemble!
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>>54889528
Are you sure you want a lv 20 Planar Shepherd in your party?
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>>54889470
The DM disappeared about 2 days ago while having the same manner of speech, same timezone, same behaviour, etc. as some previous bamboozlers. This reeks of Iron Gods/Carnal Crown.
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>>54889481
The GM was accepted to Intrigue and has been alive elsewhere as well. And looking at the profile, it seems they've at least done 5 hours of work on the S&S campaign. It looks a lot better than those that came before.
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>>54889561
I mean I'm hopeful, but not expecting much.
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>>54889561
>The GM was accepted to Intrigue
And immediately went offline afterwards, being MIA for two days by now.
> it seems they've at least done 5 hours of work on the S&S campaign
They could have just it open for 5 hours doing nothing.
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>>54889581
Hasn't this happened every single time Spooky has gone a few days without being online, though?
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>>54889591
Can you blame people for being suspicious? Especially around here, Land of the False-Flags and Bamboozlers?

But I do hope this campaign is real.
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>>54889591
There are pretty solid reasons for suspicion given that Spooky feels identical to Astrus, m8.
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>>54889548
I'd DM that adventure. They could be the Gandalf and the Superman of the party.
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>>54889447
Hulking Changelings can fluff that away with unnatural strength, since their strength and resilience are literally unnatural by RAW.

It also means she's light enough for princess carries.
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>>54889623
>Permanently tipsy female Gandalf that wears fake moustache and never takes anything seriously because of trust issues

Now that I say it out loud, might be fun.
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Is it okay to pick up the pint-sized caster and princess carry her?
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>>54889678
Yes.
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>>54889469
Oh, I know it's not really possible to convert every little detail over from another setting to pfg for a character, much less an anime character, and do it 'properly.'

I feel like Arturia would (mechanically) be a Samurai of some sort, given her martial prowess, use of a single weapon (single or two-handed, so katana or bastard sword would work), and strong sense of honor/chivalry. Excalibur itself would be a Major Artifact, covering the invisible air thing it does to cloak itself and Bright Light of Doom it can fire.

Emiya/Archer I would say is a Ranger or Ranger/Fighter. Focused on TWF and light armor, but somewhat capable with a bow. A composite longbow with Distance and some exploding arrows would do it. His Unlimited Blade Works spell? Make it work off a variant of the Called Weapon property. Instead of the weapon teleporting to his hand, they'd appear either in the ground around him or in the air above a target. Have a metric fuckton of basic swords/lances/spears/whatever just with the Variant Called property and stored in an extradimensional space.
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>>54889678
Yes, defintiely.

Unless you are male. She has issues there.__Not that she minds them, they just smell like food when they get aroused.
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Will I be spit in the face if I go spelleater Endurance, Diehard, Fast healer Bloodrager?
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>>54889737
Not really, it's a pretty solid class on it's own.
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>>54889678
I certainly would risk getting smacked down with her witchery for that!
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>>54889737
I suggest Raging Vitality--saves you a couple feats, does basically the same thing as Diehard, and improves your central class feature.
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>>54889761
Fast Healer is the thing, anon, it adds 1/2 Con to my fast healing from Spelleater archetype. I'd basically have fast healer 3+ at 2nd level while I bloodrage
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>>54889783
Does Fast Healer actually trigger from Fast Healing?
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>>54889783
That only applies to rest or magical healing. A better idea would be to trade your 4th-level bloodline power for Lesser Celestial Totem and a second rage power. Does the same thing, and lets you get a little extra while still saving you a feat.
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>>54889797
Normal Fast healing? no, because it's EX
Spelleater Fast healing? yes, because is SU, therefore magical, therefore triggers Fast Healer feat
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>>54889831
>Lesser Celestial Totem
>This not affect fast healing or regeneration
Nice advice?
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Does small size really make no difference in Starfinder?
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>>54889855
Ah, missed the bit about Spelleater, sorry.
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>>54889755
Witchery? She's a Witch now?!
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>>54889860
other than what mounts you can ride and where you can fit, no.

There's no size bonus for small size creatures.
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Friendly reminder that Shocking Grasp now has competition
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/SpellDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Deivon%27s%20Parry
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>>54889902
>competition
>from a spell that doesn't do damage

Nani the fuck
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>>54889992
Wait, Nani now turns to Nani?

HIROSHIMOOOOOOOOT
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>>54890019
Nani Sore
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What?
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>>54889840
(Su) isn't magical.
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>>54890019
>>54889992
What word are you talking about?
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>>54890056
....what the fuck are you talking about, dipshit? It's affected by an antimagic field, it's magic.
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>>54889900
Well, one of them is!
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>>54890098
But is she the shortie who loves being picked up?
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>>54890070
Nani
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>>54890070
Nani, the word that means Nani.
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>>54890110
I don't know if she loves being picked up, but I love doing it.
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>>54890110
The witch? Definitely. But you have to do it with pure intentions if you're male. Otherwise things get awkward very fast.

Most people don't like being told they smell delicious.
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>>54890171
I like being told I smell delicious!
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>>54890056
>Supernatural abilities are magical but not spell-like. Supernatural abilities are not subject to spell resistance and do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated (such as an antimagic field). A supernatural ability’s effect cannot be dispelled and is not subject to counterspells.
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>>54887875
>hear pathfinder has kitsunes
>look it up
>its furshit
Never again.
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>>54890330
Do you not know what a kitsune is
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>>54890330
Gotta houserule that shit or use the 3pp version of you want something else, fag.
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>>54890340
Apparently not.
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>>54890340
Not him but I thought they were magical foxes who could take the form of women, not an hybrid form
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>>54890056
They're magic, they're not spells.
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>>54890398
>the form of women

Varies by region and myth, but generally its just human form as there have been stories of dudes, stories about hot chicks having been magical animals are just more popular and widespread in general. Anthropomorphic foxes, people with accessories, and "animal to human no in-between" all showed up, though I think "human, but has fox features if you look close" are the typical ones.
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>>54890433
If you ask me I prefer your typical Anime kitsune (women but with weird eyes, fox ears hiden under her hair, claws and tails) rather paizo's foxface
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POST DEAD SUNS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>54890626

Got it from reddit earlier, hold on I'll upload it.
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>>54890637
Where?
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>>54889447
There are a few races that don't "look" as powerful as they are. Aasimars can be always slender, which is why my 28 str punchgirl doesn't look all that powerful. She uses a Hat of Disguise to "look" as strong and heavy as she actually is, because as is, she seems unnaturally powerful and dense.
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>>54890607
I prefer pic-related to that, but I might also be a homosexual so take that as you will
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Can someone tell me what games DHB has gotten into/refused the invite of? I want to know his hit percentage.
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>Group has Rogue, Melee Monk, Samurai and Oracle
Shit, I wanted to go gish...would a Skal help? they lack Arcane casting
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>>54890826
Definitely go skald. You'll get arcane casting and the group will love your stuff.
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>>54890409
>When you regain hit points by resting or through magical healing, you recover additional hit points equal to half your Constitution modifier (minimum +1).
Says nothing about spells, boyo.
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>>54890797
why does that even matter?
are you lot so fucking devoid of life that you've obsessed about what you've started calling "celebrities"? What is this, Entertainment Tonight?

Y'all gonna start rummaging through their trash just so you can smell their smell on some receipt from subways?

Just apply to games, or don't apply to games, or how about - and this would be a change - talk about the rules and mechanics of the games, instead of going on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on about some fucking tripcodes or roll20 IDs?
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>>54890797
He was accepted into Intrigue just this week.
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>>54890826
Bard might help the Rogue more since "lmao dex", but Skald is still bretty gud
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>>54890848
Recommended rage powers? I heard the spirit one gives you a free attack
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>>54890826
This is an amazing fucking time to go Skald, anon. You should especially consider a CHA-skald with Spirit Totem. If you can convince your GM to allow Unchained rage functionality, the rogue has no issues either - otherwise, Wyrmsinger works.
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>>54890876
Celestial totem effectively doubles healing, making them actually useful during combat.
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>>54890736
Your Aasimar doesn't want to be cute!
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>>54890876
Wouldn't know for sure honestly.

Also, as >>54890875 pointed out, bard might be better because of the rogue unless you can get unchained rage on the skald. Most DMs shouldn't have issue with that though.
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>>54890876
Full SAD CHA skald is amazing, especially if you grab a familiar with Eldritch Heritage. Fated Champion is ding dong bannu best archetype every time.

Other than that, whatever works, really. Your first 3 will be on Spirit Totem anyway, so it's not really relevant early on.
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Anyone got Dead Suns?!?
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>>54890921
yeah everybody has it they just wont post it
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>>54890921
I do, it's got a Vesk in a wife beater!
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>>54890903
It's more that she's kinda envious. It's a small matter, but never changing physically around people that do feels weird. She gained a bit of an obsession with body types, and often peeks at the various shapes humans come in because it's so very interesting. So when she used the hat, she took on a form she felt "fit" better. Aasimar are also rare in the setting, so she avoids weird looks more easily by looking human.

More specifically, it also lets her avoid bane weapons and effects that target humanoids specifically.

She changes back in her private quarters, or with close friends.
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Hey /pgg/, I'm currently mulling a question over;
I run a game of Pathfinder for my FLGS, and I recently had a player decide she was going to take the spell "Cure Minor Wounds" without asking me. This came up during game, towards the end of the session after combat. She told me that she has orisons, and could cast it as many times as she wanted.
So, I looked up the rules quickly, and couldn't find any information on where the spell was in any of the rules. I told her that it wasn't allowed for the remainder of the session in order to continue game, and that we'd discuss it after.
Well, two other players immediately hopped in to cover her, looking through the rules to find it, saying I was wrong. After 20 minutes of them both going through book after source book to find it, they both were unable to find anything other than a 3.5 spell that she must have mistaken for Pathfinder.
They both insisted she was allowed to take it, and I responded that we were playing Pathfinder, and not 3.5, and that we would finish the rules discussion after the game had ended.
The end of the session came around, and she apologized profusely, saying she would take stabilize instead, while the other two players refused to speak to me.
Did I handle this wrong? It's been a few days, and I keep thinking about this... Other then that, she's been a great player. The other two, less then, but I feel I might have lost three people due to me being an ass.
Help me clear my mind, guys. What was the correct way to go about this? Am I overthinking this whole thing?
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If someone is raised to see evil ideals as good, then commits evil acts with the intent of being a paragon of good in the world, what alignment would fit best?
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>>54890169
You should ask her by picking her up and giving her a big smooch in a private place, so she can't be embarrassed
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>>54891000
>She has an obsession with looking at human figures

This is producing a lot of emotions in me.
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>>54891046
Do not allow Cure Minor Wounds. It is a spell from 3.5 where 0-level spells could not be cast at will and is not balanced at all for PF play.
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>>54891046
You did good, anon. The guys were just massive shitters that got salty about losing their free healing.
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>>54891046
>girl has misunderstanding of rules
>you call her on it
>game gets held up while two other players, who misunderstand, try to rules lawyer for mistaken girl
>turns out they're all wrong

I think you handled it alright, from how you describe it. You even permitted them time to find whatever rules they were leaning on, in case you were genuinely wrong. But, ultimately, you don't get to make shit up. That said, not everybody has the entire corebook and expansions memorised, so there will be things people get wrong. As long as you and the mistaken player are still on good terms, the other two can eat dicks because they were wrong.
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>>54891046
Nah, you did right. If they couldn't show you the pathfinder rule in a reasonable amount of time (5 minutes is reasonable, 20 is not, especially with two people looking), then shelving it until the end of the session was the way to go. You weren't flat-out saying "no," but wanting to move the game along in the time you had and was willing to clarify things afterwards.

I've ran into similar issues playing in and gm'ing pathfinder society. Either you have your things together and know what they do, you can find the answer quickly, or you can wait until after the session is over for the night.
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>>54891046
They took it out of the game because you have no limits on cantrips now, so you could just recharge everyone to full health out of combat without spending any resources.
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>>54891046
As cantrips in 3.5e were not infinite, like this anon >>54891089 says, it's not balanced for pathfinder at all.
desu, someone pathfinder and 3.5e are systems where having an easy way to just google shit to check it is way better than trying to leaf through books.
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>>54891057
Still Evil, because that's what their actions would still be considered by the average.
>Loot and pillage a village because it's "good"

That or Chaotic Stupid, because it doesn't take much to see that killing people for no reason or burning down villages has an obviously negative effect on the world, and if they hadn't thought of that yet then there's a problem
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>>54891057
Do Evil = Evil. Their intentions are irrelevant.
The opposite would be Good, regardless of their Evil intentions.
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>>54891060
Noted~!
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>>54891057
Neutral Evil or Chaotic Evil.
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>>54891173
It is not my fault officer
He violated NAP by breathing my air
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>>54891057
If someone thinks life is tortue and the worst fucking thing ever, and they go out of their way to keep everyone alive under belief that it is prolonging that torment (free healing spells, potions of cure disease to the poor, rescuing people from danger,etc) what would their alignment be?
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>>54891208
That's Zon-Kuthon, who's totally Evil.
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>>54891046
Next time you see them, apologize for any abrasiveness you may have presented that day. Be very polite with these people going forward, and only offer justification if asked.
Petulant children insist on explaining themselves to justify themselves. That's a mistake. Only tell them about the balance issue if they ask why you did it and press you on it.
Be fair and kind, and you will be fine.
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>>54891198
Why not Lawful Evil. He's still following a code and morality, it's just absolutely fucked.
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>>54891060
What race is the best at smooching, and which is the best at being picked up and smooched?
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>>54891226
Gibbering Mouthers for both.
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>>54891068
Is that... good?
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>>54891226
Humans and Changelings! Lips are great, and they can express all sorts of emotions!
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>>54891226
Grippli
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>>54891068
Are you getting turned on?
Is your christmas tree in trouble?
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>>54891310
>>54891352
It's cute, fascinating, sad, all sorts of things!
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Dead Suns leak when?
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>>54891366
Well, I'm glad it made you feel ways! I like the character a lot, so it makes me happy when people enjoy aspects of her.
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Why Paladin's and Ranger's CL is their level-3 but Bloodrager's isn't?
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>>54891089
>>54891125
>>54891130
>>54891138
>>54891139
>>54891143
>>54891218
Thank you all for your responses, I really do appreciate it. I'll follow your advice, and won't allow the spell. I might give them a wand of cure light as a reward for the next quest, hopefully that'll be a good compromise; she really is a good player, and is doing the hard job of healing clean up.
I still secretly want to crack the whip on the two other players for deciding they were the one in charge of the rules. But, you're right, being aggressive isn't the correct way to go about resolving a conflict. Hopefully I'm not the only one who feels that way.
It makes me nervous for further down the road, if I have to house rule something, or if I make an incorrect call down the line, that they might bully me or the other players. Any suggestions for this? Should I just cite rule 0 and move on? I don't want to lose players, at the end of the day, these people are my friends, but I don't want to be pushed around.
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>>54891367
second this. want to leech all those creatures from it
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>>54891434
Because Paizo.
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>>54891436
Personally I think the spell is fine, but that's mostly because wands of CLW become ubiquitous and so cheap that they "might as well be infinite healing". Having it as a cantrip just cuts out the middleman at the cost of making it take longer (1d8+1 hp/six seconds instead of 1hp/six seconds).

Unfortunately Paizodrones REEEEEE'd any and all forms of "infinite healing" out of the game in 1pp, barring certain bizarre hidden combos. Or Boots of the Earth, but we don't talk about that for fear of Errata.
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>>54891436
If she's a good player, willing to own up on her mistakes, and also carries the healing, you should definitely give her something good for it. Healing-type girls are a treasure.
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New /sfg/ link dump document for next new thread (added CRB download link):
https://pastebin.com/UiKRXQvV
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>>54891436
If she's really that good, you could allow it after a conversation about what it means to be allowing it, too. If she's that dedicated, there is no harm in changing the rules, but make sure everyone is on the same page about how this represents a rule change.
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Dead Suns?! Anyone?
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>>54891621
jesus christ, WAIT.

asking more often won't make this any fucking faster; just the opposite in fact.
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>>54891621
I'll post it. Gimme a sec.
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Why so many people recommend Optimistic Gambler for raging classes? I understand the extra turns are nice, but you get them at random, and even if you expect 1 extra and play with it you get fatigued at the end so if you misread the combat and decide to end it earlier you're fucked.
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>>54891649
Yay! Thank you, anon! Thank you!
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>>54891662
You are being bamboozled, anon. That very post has been made several times in the last few days. There is never a payoff.
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>>54891681
Would somebody really do that? Just lie on the internet?
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>>54891621
Sent :^)
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>>54891681
What a tease! You can't just fondle our hopes like that without a little release!
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>>54891723
I have been bamboozled.
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>>54891762
Apparently plebbit has it, so go whine at them.
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>>54891731
Orgasm denial is my kink. Now get back into your chastity belt. You'll have your release when I see fit to grant it.
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>>54889860
Do you want to play a Small or Tiny Person, Anon?
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>>54891367
RIGHT NOW.
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>>54891867
YES

YES
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>>54891867
Thanks, Leakanon, they've been bitching nonstop. Sorry if it felt like we're ungrateful. Also, do you have man thumbs? Asking for a friend.
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What are the +Strength +Intelligence races?
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>>54891983
Tiefling.
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>>54891997
Is not
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>>54891983
Moroi Dhampir.
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>>54891867
Now only dump front cover and nothing else to maximise the pain.
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>>54891867
Does it have anything about starships? Hopefully they won't be last this time!
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>>54892031
[panic]
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>>54892056
Maybe also the table of contents.
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>>54891867
Show us the NPC Gallery! Show us the NPC Gallery!
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>>54891997
>No bloodlines are STR/INT

>>54892027
>STR/CHA

Why are you chucklefucks retarded?

>>54891983
Actual response is Jiang-shi Born Dhampir, Male Lushunta, or unfortunately dual attributed Humans. Not sure of 3pp options.
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>>54892095
>Male Lushunta

[Triggered]
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>>54892095
>r unfortunately dual attributed Humans.
>unfortunately
Out of
>Lashunta(fucking aliens)
>Jiang-Shi(Asian vampire spawn)
>Human
Guess which race is actually going to see play at a table?
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>>54892200
It's unfortunate because you get literally 0 other class features for what should be a more common statblock in general.
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>>54892200
I'd allow the Teen with all the weapons race
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>>54892095
What are my third party options then?
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>>54892200
It's almost like Dual Talent humans are fucking garbage
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>>54891867
I wanna see that ship layout and the bestiary/npc's they have. All in good time though.
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>>54892031
An advanced boozle... I like it.
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>>54891436
One thing I'd personally allow is basically a "Cure Minor Wounds" wand that has the same functionality of a level 0 orison (aka can be cast infinitely) but costs double the amount a normal CLW wand costs. It's practically useless during the heat of battle, when you'd potentially want to get emergency healing, but I agree with >>54891468 in that out-of-combat healing past a certain level is such a non-issue money-wise unless you're in an AP that suffocates your wallet, it should be fine.
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Which one can causes more havoc: Charlatan Rogue, or a Demagogue Bard?
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In Androids, Constructed feature gives them +4 vs mind affecting effects and Anomaly gives them -2 vs mind affecting effects. Do they end having +2 if they have both features?
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>>54892314
The issue isn't moneywise, though, it's restraining your resources. If you want to spend gold on a fuckton of wands so you practically never run out, that's one thing, but if you're only carrying one around at a time, that's eventually gonna run out.
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So how do you store coinage? By the time most players hit level 7-8 they have A LOT of money around. The 33k gp a character has at level 8 weighs 660lbs, most than most people want to lug around. Even all in platinum it's gonna be 66lbs.


How do you carry or store your money? All in items? Do you bank this is what my character does? Do you keep it in some kind of light weight commodity like gems? Do you invest?

I'm curious what folks do.
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If you were to choose a weapon, without knowing what sort of threats you'll be facing and without cost being an issue, would you go with mithral, cold iron or adamantine? Which is likely to be the most useful?
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>>54892345
What are the types?
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>>54892362
>66 lbs
>400 lbs light load
This is a problem for you?
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>>54892362
This has never come up in a game I've played in, where money weight has never been an issue because video games I guess. I think the way to do it would be to put it into gems, since adventurers generally don't stay in one place and there won't be a bank wherever you want to go.
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>>54892362
First, I always ask the GM if there's an easily accessible location (banks, a temple of Abadar, etc.) in which I can convert all my currency to the highest denominations to minimize weight.

Following that, at the point where the party's level 5+, usually each of us have a handy haversack, bag of holding or a similar storage space so the topic has never truthfully come up.
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>>54892362
Most of that money is going to be converted into some sort of gear, and the money that does not get converted? If it's still well over 10k gp, I tend to invest it in whichever community we're in.

This means building orphanages, laying out the foundation for a swanky noble villa in the Taldan countryside, funding the bread and soup for a city's poor. That sort of thing.
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>>54888157
Yep! Even got a bundle of joy on the way.
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>>54892462
>ywn make passionate love to your crush on your scenic Taldan estate next to your scenic Taldan vineyard while the scenic Taldan sun sets

Why even try, desu
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What's the best ways to keep the camp/supplies/horses/mules/followers safe? Do you hire some guards, keep characters in reserve etc? How would equip such guards?
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>>54888157
My character is a waifu
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>>54892479
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Nothing can stop you from doing that in a campaign set in Golarion, and if moving to Taldor is unfeasible than you can simply build the swanky noble villa wherever you're living!
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>>54892399
Having all your money on your person at all times invites theft. Also how do you carry it? What kind of case do you use? Just a big sack?

I normally store them in metal tubes that hold 50 coins each so I can pass around them in 1lbs increments of their precious metal.

>>54892408
Gems are nice ones, but easier to lose/get stolen. I had a player who would get gems then replace his teeth with them until he had a 'diamond smile'.

>>54892421
Even a big bag of holding Type IV only carries 1500lbs, or only 75000gp. You'll see a good deal more than that between the party in your adventuring career, and that assumes the bag of holding only contains gold.

If it's all in PP 750000gp is the total wealth of a party at level 13 for a party of 5. Though by then you probably have a portable hole.
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>>54891867
L-leakanon? M'lord?
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>>54892362

Our group has a very mercenary mentality. We are not heroes. If bringing followers, soldiers, horses, mules along makes our lives easier, we just do it.
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>>54891867
Leakanon should not be playing with our hearts like this!
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>>54892503
We're generally broke as hell until we cash out all the shit we ste-er, acquire through proper adventuring. After we cash out, we spend all of it or shove it into bags of holding. We also have an airship, so most of it is on the ship.
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>>54892554
So big chests?
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>>54892376
racial, both
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>>54892574
Big chests are always appreciated.
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>>54888157
Nope. Only one character has a waifu, actually. I wouldn't mind one, if they were well written. They don't tend to be.
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Just drafted up my ruleset and setting for my upcoming Starfinder game. All these useless Mass Effect hours can finally be translated into something.

Can't wait to explore the unexplored.
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How could the Dvati from 3.5 be translated into Pathfinder? They're twins that share a soul and inhabit two bodies, basically.
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I want to make a young dragon character. With 15 RP in Advanced Race Guide's race creator, is it possible?
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>>54892614
I hope you have a ton of fun!
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>>54892489
Wist, isn't it like the middle of the night right now where you are?
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>>54892614
>actually exploring
>not being a camwhore icon that livestreams her alien sex
>not spending your days advertising for various shops on the citadel
>not being a famous Post-Skumpa astropop star
>not getting glazed on transdimensional pesh and watching VR anime
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>>54892614

Best of luck, anon. Hope everyone enjoys the adventure.
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>>54892692
>Transdimensional Pesh

I love they still have that in.
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>>54892552
I warned you motherfuckers, pain must be maximised.
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>>54892575
They don't stack, so I think you just get +4, since it's the higher bonus
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>>54892709
Vetra is a cute! A CUTE!
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>>54892720
LaughingIntrigueGM.png
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>>54892753
I don't think you can claim the last laugh when one of your players has disappeared.
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>>54892692
>on the citadel

Jeez anon, it's called Absalom Station. Get it right!

That said, you know what I find hilarious about Absalom Station? It's explicitly designed to be the easiest place to visit regardless of your distance from the Pact Worlds; plotting a course for Absalom Station will take 1d6 days in the Drift, even if you're deep in the Vast.

Remember how Absalom was the greatest city nobody went to? Well, they're really laying it on thick with the hope you visit it.
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>>54892742
I'd do weird things to her butthole.
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>>54892764
Pain must be maximized for us all, child.
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>Pain Must be Maximized

Are... Are we Kuthites?
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>>54892767
I will never not call it the Citadel.
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>>54892798
Now you get it.
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>>54892723
...it's stupid then
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>>54892832
Welcome to Pathfinder. Mind the trap options.
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>>54892723
No. It's a penalty and those always stack and are separate from bonuses.
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>>54892885
Sick. Then a +2. Ignore me.
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>>54892906
...wait. No, Anomoly modifies Constructed, so they don't add. Constructed is changed. You get a -2.
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WHY IS ARSHEA A MAJOR GODDESS.

WHY.
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>>54892951
Also, the glossary entry for penalties say they don't have a type, so it's odd that this has one.
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>>54892990
Because SEX POSITIVE, but only so long as you're JJ's waifu.
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>>54892951
But it doesn't say "in exchange of" like literally every other alternate racial trait that modifies

Does that mean you still keep the bonuses to stun and paralisis?
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>>54892990
They got promoted thanks to their talents, hard work and dedication.
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>>54893001
Well, it modifies Constructed, so anything it mentions supercedes Constructed, and anything it doesn't mention is left alone. So it's changed for what's mentioned, but you keep the normal bonus for paralysis and the rest.
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>>54892998
>>54893020
I thought Weydan would fit the whole "freedom and independence" thing, why did Paizo feel the need to include a deity ENTIRELY DEVOTED TO SEXUAL EXPERIENCE?

They literally baked "Porn Star" and "Wanton Whore" right into the Core game!
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>>54892767
>Only takes d6 days to reach from anywhere
You'd better hope they have an amazing defense system. Any serious alien invasion could start there; as long as hey have drift engines then they can all warp in.

That said, sounds like something happens in dead suns (The ship with the asteroid)
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>>54893039
They know what the people want
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How many men armed with buckler and sword or spearmen would you leave behind to take care of a camp from either dissuading thieves to defending the camp against raiders?
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>>54893050
And the people want voluptuous bimbos in skintight outfits taking on a trio of Vesk in a production for SCALED?
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>>54893064
Depends on the raiders and the quality of the equipment.

10 should be enough to dissuade most attackers.
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>>54893071
> Vesksploitation

YES
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>>54893071
...well I do NOW, apparently.
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>>54893099
>>54893064
It also depends on how long you plan to be away. 10 men, properly trained, could definitely hold your camp long enough for you to return from a day trip sort of thing
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>>54892370
Adamant. Not only are silver (mithral) and cold-iron far easier to overcome through magical bonuses (Adamantine needs +5, the others stop mattering at what, +3?) but it's also great for cutting into all sorts of stuff. Any hardness BELOW 20 (not 20 itself) is ignored with this, which means pretty much any stone wall, steel door; basically any material that's not adamantine and not heavily heavily enchanted.
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>>54891661
Bumpo?
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>>54893119
>>54893100
Then make one for a Starfinder campaign, you freaks! Would that be an Icon or a Xenoseeker, anyway?
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>>54892464
You ordered a Nintendo Switch?
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>>54893168
Porn star is icon. If you're doing it specifically to fuck aliens, it's xenoseeker
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>>54893168
Either works. Although Xenoseeker would be more "exotic".
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>>54893168
Okay, I'll get started on that Vesk then. Let me know when your character's ready. ;)
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Forget the first Starfinder game here, we'll probably forget about it after it starts. I want to know what the RotJR of Starfinder will be, the one that comes out later in life which explodes and defines the Starfinder format on /pgg/ forever.
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>>54893050
This. The impression I get from /pfg/ is that the fanbase is full of people who jack off at the table.
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>>54892720
>>54892786
But I don't want Dead Suns to be leaked, because what's the point in playing it if everybody and their mother already read the book and knows what happens?

>>54892885
Even if it were a bonus, it'd still stack. Racial bonuses stack.
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>>54893244
You don't?
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What's the best way to make an open world game that plays like a mix between monster hunter and rewards exploration?

>>54888157
Nope. The best he got is a prostitute that was nearly dead and addicted to drugs. He hired her, cleaned her up, then proceeded to give her a basic education and nearly succeed in averting a miscarriage of her daughter. So far her job is to keep him company in his citadel in the middle of a tundra crawling with ice elementals and kept company by clockwork servants. It also doesn't help she's a snarky bimbo who sadly hasn't yet entered any of the rooms I told her not to go into, didn't read any of the tomes about forbidden nercomancy, and instead stayed as a perfect house wife. So she completely passed all expectations and slowly my character is beginning to like her.

Oh, and she began practicing making dolls as of last session.

How badly did I fucked up on picking a companion?
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Let me see if I have this right. An aegis would need three customization points to make Armory of the Conqueror better than Augment Weapon?
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>>54893246
People aren't metagaming fucktards?
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>>54893244
/pfg/ is not an accurate representation of the entirety of the Pathfinder fanbase. You've got your /pfg/ers, your Paidrones, your folks from GitP, the Mythweaver crowd (I guess), PFS players, and not to mention people who just play Pathfinder on their own without being in some online community about it.

>>54893264
Expect an inevitable betrayal or tragic death, Anon.

Besides that, not a monolith, etc.
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>>54893246
Do you not go back and enjoy something after you've already done it once? Do you not forget parts of a story, so that when you go through it again you exclaim "oh! Right, that's how it went, I forgot!"?
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>>54893297
You need three essence in AotC for it to become a second size-up.
So you need the essence pool customization (2 points) and the basic armory veil (1 point) yes.

But your veilweaver level has to be high enough to attribute 3 points into it, so I believe that was not before level 11.
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>>54893301
And many of them are still fucking perverts. Fuck, JJ himself is a huge fucking perv.
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>>54893327
So keep that in mind for level 11, but use augment weapon or increased size before?
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>>54893355
Augment Weapon is just 2 instead of 3 points so yes.

As for the increased size, that is a size-up, not a virtual weapon-size-up, and therefore stacks.

You can combine "Am Bigger" with "Weapon Am Bigger"(powerful build and an actually-bigger starting weapon size) and "Weapon Counts as Am Biggermore"
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>>54893377
That's still like 7 customization points and a level 11 requirement. Is that really worth it?
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What's the difference between wood and steel shield?
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>>54893458
Hardness and possibly hp?
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>>54891867
Uh, I guess I should have expected that since I don't use a trip, but that ain't me. As long as they share the whole thing it's cool, but otherwise you're all waiting until Thursday when I can actually buy it.
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>>54893458
Whether they can be made from wooden special materials or metal special materials.
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>>54893458
Usefulness if you need firewood.
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>>54893458
Druid
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>>54893264
Contracts, the party are given an overland map of the country/continent and told about rumors going on in various cities, town or even just parts of the world.
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>>54893499
Leakanon, do you have man thumbs?
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>>54893458
DC to force entirely into someone's anus
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>>54893406
9th for the basic increased size (2 points)

Powerful Build available from the start.

Augment Weaponry available from level 6
if you can spare 3 points you can get armory of the conqueror rating 1 for 3 points or earth-mode elemental-flux-stance for 2 points (if not using initiating for anything better) before 6th.

Augment Weaponry explicitly is incompatible with size-increases such as expansion, so you can't combine the size-boost with the weapon-size-boost without AotC. However you can have a large weapon on a medium character, that counts as huge, until you combine these. Eventually by 11th you could expansion yourself if melee, combine that with 3 points in AotC, with a large weapon, for colossal weapon growth - and yes it keeps growing.


Now... IS it worth it? Well, that's really a matter of how you go about picking your damage. Obviously you're giving up other abilities to do this, and it's all weapon dice. It's a lot of weapon dice though, so an archer with massive static bonuses might be getting not that much from it, and a dagger user... what are you even fucking thinking?

But, say you have an earthbreaker (3d6 medium> 4d6 Large> 6d6 Huge> 8d6 Gargantuan> 12d6 Colossal), or a double-hackbut, or a minotaur-double-crossbow, or a Laser Cannon... Or say you CAN'T get damage feats to work with your weapon because you're using a machine-gun and can afford to put all your feats in other stuff?

It's a different way of building from the usual "mega-statics, multi-attacks", especially since vital strike starts looking actually decent at 12 dice (won't work with automatics still though).
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>>54893550
I have thumbs, but I've never posted a picture of a physical book on here before.
>>
>>54893458
Whether they're affected by Warp Wood or Heat Metal
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>>54893575
Can I delay initiator's soul and the other maneuver customizations to pump up my initiator level and take better maneuvers later?
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>>54893617
Yeah, I saw that, but are your thumbs man thumbs?
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>>54893692
I... guess?
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>>54893351
>Fuck, JJ himself is a huge fucking perv.

Wasn't he disappointed that artists didn't make Sorshen as voluptuous as she was supposed to be?
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>>54890189
You smell delicious.
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>>54891584
The CRB download is down.
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>>54893769
I don't recall if he was disappointed or not, or just accepting of the fact that you couldn't have her be F-list-tier voluptuous, but the art for her is less so than the original concept.
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Is there a table for random encounters in the drift? The book mentions it several times but there's nothing on it.
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>>54893932
It might come with Alien Archives. It wouldn't do you any good without monsters regardless, I think.
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>>54893919
>but the art for her is less so than the original concept.

I'd argue she's actually quite small-chested compared to what she was meant to be, it's odd how Paizo seems cautious on slapping hefty handfuls of chest on their girls.
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>>54893769
>>54893919
>>54893959
When are we going to convince a drawfag like BC to redraw Sorshen the way she was meant to be?
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>>54893998
Never.
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>>54893998
>When are we going to convince a drawfag like BC to redraw Sorshen the way she was meant to be?

When you request it in the Drawthreads on here or /aco./
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>>54894006
what a shame
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>>54891867

Is this troll?
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>>54893998
>Runelord of Lust
>Disappointingly average figure
>Boring hair
>Awkward outfit

Why?
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>>54894048
Because magic. Why bother looking good when high cha and spells?
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>>54893998
>Poor posture
>Crooked spine
>Inwards facing feet
>Oddly bent knees
>Too much mascara
3/10, get this trash out of here
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>>54894048
>The Runelord of Lust isn't also the Runelord of Bust

>>54894068
>tfw Sorshen was really just a rather cute, if homely girl who was just good with magic, and she ended up more cute than sexy

Fund it?
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>>54894017
Truly.
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>>54894068
That's the thing though.

Her thing is that when you have magic, why NOT push yourself to the extremes? Why NOT be a stupidly sexy mega-hourglass babe?
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what's the easiest way to get pounce in pathfinder?

Is it possible at level five?
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>>54894068
The nature of Runelord magic is such that you must immerse yourself in the Sin or Virtue you embody.

Sorshen doesn't even have a "sinfully innocent" look. There's nothing about her that could really ignite serious lust.
>>
Oh my god JC, a bomb!
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>>54894098
Raging Hunter Pounce from Path of War.
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>>54894121
A BOMB?
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>>54894098
>Is it possible at level five?
I only recall as Magus (with Spell Combat and Bladed Dash), Unchained Monk (with Flying kick) and Sythetist Summoner (with Eidolon with pounce)

Overall is way harder to achieve than in 3.5
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>>54894048
SJWs will sceam sexism otherwise.
>>
How would you run a Colonymaker?
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>>54894048
She doesn't need to look good. She's a fucking RUNELORD, you don't fuck her she fucks you. She doesn't need to be attractive, since she's a master of fucking ENCHANTMENT spells.

Think with your head and not with your penis for five seconds.
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>>54894180
Same way you would run a Kingmaker, only replace Brevoy with either the Aspis Consortium or AbadarCorp.
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>>54894223
She still has her own ego, you dunce.

She doesn't HAVE to look good, but there's nothing stopping her from WANTING to. And she has the ability to, so why not?
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>>54894048
>Boring Hair
>Implying long flowing silky hair isn't the best
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>>54894223
JJ described Sorshen as having a ridiculous hourglass figure, they got rid of that.

>>54894258
Yeah, with the most boring hair color possible. If you wanted to go for the sultry black-haired woman, make it black hair.
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>>54894180
Colonymaker requires at least a rudimentary knowledge on what buildings are available in the campaign, because good lord imagine the headache for the DM when you start discussing the cost and logistics of finding regions rich in ore and the cost of constructing an automated refinery there.
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>>54894255
Why would she want to? And why are you assuming she can?

She has ultimate power at her finger tips. Manages a fucking empire of sin. She can alray fuck everything she could possibly want to fuck. She doesn't need an ego boost. I hate to break to you anon, but not every nymphomaniac looks like a porn star.
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>>54894284
>JJ described Sorshen as having a ridiculous hourglass figure, they got rid of that
That doesn't really change what she looks like now or how her looking plain still makes sense.

And if I recall it wasn't just an "hour glass figure" but something to the effect of making you question how she was able to even move.
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>>54894305
>Why are you assuming she can
>She has ultimate power

Well gee I dunno.

And also, why are you so convinced that she DOESN'T want to like how she looks? There's a point when body modification becomes something like a hairstyle or clothes, why WOULDN'T you look how you want?
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Hey all, just letting you know that I'll be heading out to Gencon tomorrow, so the playtest is still going to keep running, but don't expect to see much new. I'm busy with City of Seven Seraphs, as well as other projects, and I'm gonna be handing out business cards out there.

As for starfinder, I'm probably gonna grab it there, might be doing a class guide at some point, that's still up in the air, but at this point the only class guide that's 90% or higher likely to happen is going to be one based on the Striker from SoM.
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>>54894350
Who's to say she doesn't already look that way? Yeah, lots of women want to look beautiful but there idea of beautiful seldom resembles something off a doujin cover.
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>>54894379
It's pointless to write a class guide for anything in Starfinder right now. The classes are really straightforward and only have a couple of meaningful talent choices, they build themselves. Maybe a few splatbooks down the line.
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>>54894396
Wizards don't even have a sense of right or wrong, why would they give a damn if something's realistic or not?

And she doesn't necessarily care about BEAUTY, but being SEXY.
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>>54894432
>And she doesn't necessarily care about BEAUTY, but being SEXY.
Again why are you assuming this. She doesn't need to inspire lust with her looks, she has spells for that.

This argument is pointless because we're debating the personality of a character that's lucky to have maybe half a page worth of shit written about them.
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>>54894463
Well when what little we have on her says that she DID use magic to get a doujin-level bod, and evidently IS the type to do such a thing...
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>>54894492
Do we have anything saying this beyond what JJ said her original design was in a thread?
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Fresh bread
>>54894564
>>54894564
>>54894564
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>>54894588
Page 6.
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>>54893649
No, that's the main drawback of initiator soul: There's plenty of advantages given how it can be used (the customization itself as well), but unlike other archetypes you cannot simply retrain out of low level maneuvers the same way.

So, within each discipline, you NEED a level 1/2 in order to be allowed to pick a level 3/4, the two of which together will allow you to pick a level 5/6.

Initiator Soul is an incredibly good partial-initiator-archetype, but it will eat a good chunk of your customs to go all the way.
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>>54894121
>>54894131
Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb.
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There was a spell that granted sneak attack for every 5 or so caster levels. Thought it to be alteration or divination, level 3 or 4 but I can't find it anymore, in part because I forgot what it was called.
Anyone?
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>>54893458
In real life? Lots. In games not so much.

>tfw your steel rimmed wood shield causes an opponents sword to get caught in it and you get to stab him in the gut or neck for free.
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Say you have magical lineage timestop... Could you extend spell it?
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