Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

First for buttfrustrated R&H players

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Do you think battlescribe will update the lists with Forge World indexes soon ?

>In order to benefit from Legion Tactics you have to have Infantry, Biker or Hellbrute keyword
>Ahriman and ExSorc have to exchange their Infantry keyword for Daemon is they take Disc

:thinking:

Lore question about fortifications for you gents. So I get the idea that for some structures, they literally drop the pieces from Orbit right before the battle. Do they usually stay there after or of there precedent of a Guard Company picking up their Bastion or Strongpoint after a campaign and bringing it with them?
I want to personalize a fortification but it would seem a bit weird to see the same building on each world my Regiment visits. Especially something as big as a strongpoint.
If my regiment was dirtpoor and only had one they really valued, would it make sense to pack it up after every campaign?

4th for Dank Eldar

>>54870933
discs are gay, not even in the good slaanesh way either

That feel when touched by the plaguefather.
Guess I'll call in sick.

>>54870933
Well, it's not like thousand sons actually have any legion tactics for ahriman and the exalted saucer to take advantage of.

>>54870933
This also fucks over every generic chaos lord if they wanna take a mount.

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give me objective marker ideas for Space Marines and Imperial Guard

>>54870967
>not joyfully spreading grandfather's gifts to your work colleagues
You are no true son of nurgle.

>>54871019
eBay my nigga there are tons of them.

I just came to 40k from WMH and there is a GW store close by. I'm a very slow painter, are they going to sperg out if I dont have all my shit painted yet? I'm making progress but haven't played a game yet.

So how much difference that +1 invu on Magnus really makes?

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Any Dark Eldar players tried these?

I realised I had enough bits and pieces to cobble together a Beastmaster and wondered if one of those and a couple of Clawed Fiends would be good. They look pretty nice on paper, S5 T5 A4 5W with AP-1 and 2D, only +4WS but the Beastmaster lets them reroll that.

>>54871078
About 16.7%

>>54871019
Take a tripod from the heavy weapons sprue, a flag from the command sprue, and an appropriately sized base from any sprue you deem fit (larger ones being more stable)

Sand off the current decorations, paint, then add a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 tranfer onto the flags center.

>>54871064
Depends on the manager but in general no, I've seen plenty of grey models in my GW and I've even played with a half-built Knight. The 3 color 'rule' they have is so they can take pictures of the games and promote the store/game.

>>54871064
If you're making progress then I've yet to see a single person who will sperg at you. Even if you're not ther es a stark few in real life who will, it's not up to us how you play with your little plastic men

>>54871064
Nah, they should be cool. In fact most stores are happy for you to paint there if you want and theres space free.

>>54870931
That's like asking if a screwdriver will update to let you pry open cans of soup soon. Just because it's possible don't mean it isn't a retarded piece of shit. Fuck bullshit scribe.

>>54870935
Which aren't in the game anymore for some strange reason. Imagine that!

>>54870933
Hahahahahaha!

New GW and their quality books.

Have someone compiled a list of all the derp so far?

>>54871086
>>54871090
>>54871093
Thanks guys. I know the FLGS doesn't care but I wanted to check out an official GW store and have heard some horror stories about the employees there.

>>54871118
>Have someone compiled a list of all the derp so far?
You sound like just the autist for the job!

Anyone here have to tone down a list for being too powerful?

T.Scions

>>54870919
I can imagine some of the gangers would make pretty good R&H minis.

I'm going to use them in my Rogue Trader's IG.

>>54871155
I really have to hold myself back from summoning when asked to a power level game.

>>54871109
...wat? They have a Force Org slot all to their own.

>>54871158
Yeah, I'm considering getting some of the Chunk Benchpress guys to use as brutes in my marauder squads

>>54871109
....are you okay or do you not own Imperium 2?

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>>54871019
I have two objective markers for my IG. One is a generic ammo/arms drop. Box with lasguns and ammo. The other one is a grave for a fallen member.

>>54871158
Delaque just need a couple of chaos stars and bam insta-cultists

>>54871193
>Chinx
That's not the preferred nomenclature. Asian American, please.

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>>54871132
My local GW is about as bad as it gets apparently, no "proxies" or conversions that aren't just gluing different bits on a Termie or something or are even slightly not WYSIWYG, hardly any tables, manager is a reasonably nice dude but his assistant is a twat, etcetera. Even they say that unpainted models are fine, or they'd never get any games since about 2/3 of people have almost entirely grey stuff. I'm trying to improve there personally.

On an unrelated note, would an Ork or Marine player have spare Power Klaws and Killsaws/Thunder Hammers and Power Mauls at all? Trying to get some suitably smashy weapons to arm my electropriest servitors with, since I only have ten or so Kataphron claws and a few Arc Mauls. Thought I'd mix it up a bit.

>>54871155
Played hive guard spam once and only once. I almost tabled the poor dude on turn 3

>>54871194
Actually, I was thinking that Delaque look freakishly like Genestealer Cultists. Neophytes I think.

Cawdor look very chaos (or ecclesiarsy) culty. Goliaths look very Khorne-friendly.

>>54871214
I'm personally more partial to "rice people".

>>54871019
Find a one of those Lasgun powerpack die boxes. I got mine for $7 and it came with 6 little servoskull scribes that work great.

With psychic spam, sheer durability and other boons, can GK armies hold their own against the new horde based Meta with such a small model count?

>>54871217
A marine player should have Thunder Hammers. Either from the Terminator box or the other ones - I think even the Devastator box has one.

>>54871218
Impalers or Shock? I'm in the process of converting a brood of 3, wondering if I should go Shock.

>>54871239
In my experience it's insanely hard for most elite-based armies to hold against hordefags.
t. Death/Raven player who's starting a GK force

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>>54871019

Commissar cap for IG.

>>54871249
Impaler is better in almost any scenario with reasonable amounts of terrain, just park 9 of them in hard to see areas and go to town on anything you feel like making not exist

>>54871263
>>54871239
How do thousand sons fare against hordes with All is Dust? Do they still drown in bullets?

Why am I supporting a company which can't even be fucked commissioning new artwork for its codex?

GW makes a fuckton of money from new editions... this blatant fucking penny pinching just gets me roided.

>>54871095
Why do people hate Battlescribe?

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Can I get some feedback on 2k Grey Knights?
In theory this looks sound but I am not so sure.

>Grand Masters in Nemesis Dreadknights
They are both meant to be heavy hitters with a 3+ Invulnerable when their spells go off which is easier since everyone is from Grey Knights so I get a +1 to my Psychic.
Will hang out in the TP Chamber until I need shock factor.

>Strike Squads
They may be small but they have a use in terms of psychic powers teleporting my units early on to catch my enemy off guard.
If my opponent has a lot of infantry bodies I can at least send themselves forward and just throw in Storm Bolter shots.

>Paladin Squad
Meant to bash strong targets and multi wound models while being extra resilient because of potential spell buffs.
They will ride in the Stormraven most likely in order to have a fast transport.

>Purgation Squads
They are transported by the Razorbacks and will usually use them for cheese cover.
They disembark and but a the Razorback between them and the enemy in order to hide LoS then use Astral Aim to shoot the target. Throw on the once or twice weapon buff stratagem and I get 24 S5 AP1 shots.

>Stormraven
Was originally a Land Raider Crusader but I realized since I changed from Terminator characters to baby carriers that they don't need the extra space.
Then weapon package helps me with my anti vehicle or big guy needs.

>Razorbacks
Simply used as vehicle hate and are meant to be teleportered without moving in order to land Lascannon shots without move penalty.

>>54871286
Thousands Sons get rounded down and stomped in melee because you don't have enough models to stop the enemy and you literally are the slowest faction in the whole game.

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>>54871297

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Jesus christ, Khorne must be pleased.

If I kill Gulliman in overwatch and he comes back to life, what happens? Does he complete his charge or end his activation?

>>54871311
When I first saw this I thought it was a screencap from Dawn of War or something lol

Has it been established whether or not the FW chapters will get chapter tactics?

>>54871309
That's okay. I think I'm going to run tzaangors to screen against charges and keep my sons out if melee. I just don't want to lose a 300 point squad of units to some pissed off shoota boys.

Do you come up with backgrounds/names for your characters? Or do they stay as generic Cadre Fireblade #1 or generic Space Marine Captain #3

>>54871334
Full names and backstories for the important one. Names for the others. And they show up in the stories I write.

>>54871154
Kids these days, i bet you dont even know how a pencil work.

>>54870931
Did they drop new indexes or something? All of the Imperial Armor: Xenos stuff I've proxied has been on Battlescribe already.

>>54871218
Ive got to say out of 14 games I've lost 6 of them. In those 6 games I've tabled almost all of my opponents

>>54871345
pointy end goes into the other guy?

Is there literally any reason to take anything other than Nemesis Falchions?

>>54870933
What is the problem.

Ahriman and Exalted Sorcs are Thousand Sons, they don't have any Legion Tactics, they're in a completely separate book.

-Tyberos the Red Wake (205)

-Lieutenant (63)

-Assault Terminators (280)
Thunderhammer w/shields

-Rhino (80)
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer

-Land Raider (391)
Twin Heavy Bolter
Twin Lascannon x2
Storm Bolter
Multi Melta
Hunter Killer

-Knight Crusader (598)
Avenger Gatling Gun
Rapid Fire Battle Cannon
Heavy Stubber
Heavy Flamer
Melta
Stormspear Rocket Pod

-Tactical Squadx10 (171)
Combi-Flamer
Plasma Gun
Heavy Flamer

-Tactical Squadx10 (183)
Combi-Plama
Plasma Gun
Missile Launcher

(1971)

Thoughts on my Carcharadon list? This is what I have so far but I'm willing to mix and match between the list. The only thing that I do absolutely want to keep is Tyberos and the Imperial Knight, otherwise I have sort of tried to build around those two. I'm not sure if the stuff on the tactical squads will be any good but I think it might work.

>>54871163
I had to change my list around and muddy it down a bit to make it what i like to call tuff fluff list

>rulebook says 1000pts/50pwr game can be played in about an hour
>most games I've played have ended up being 2-3hrs, including setup
Is the rulebook lying or is my group just playing really slow (it doesn't feel like we could do it any faster)

>>54871082
I can't ever find any reasonably priced but on paper they look like they'd fuck shit up pretty good.

>>54871155
Stopped doing the 3 fusion commanders drop and pop because it was too cheesy.

How do I get my girlfriend into WH40K bros :(

I just finished reading Fallen Angels earlier tonight, but from blurbs I can't find the next HH book for Dark Angels. Some Lion stuff, but nothing that seems to be next in line.
Has it just not been written yet, or did they do the whole destruction of Caliban thing in one of the short story books or something?

>>54871391
Withhold dick from his (boy)pussy

>>54871318
IIRC he comes back at the end of the phase.

So he died BEFORE rolling his Charge dice, so he'll be where he died (he failed his charge as he never COULD roll to charge)

>>54871388
Smart move, cuz they're getting nerfed soon.

>>54871388
I fought that list with a ghost keel and like four of the forge world deep strike equivalents and beat it fairly easily but that was a 1500 point game
Id say that list was pretty cool

>>54871391
If she has an artistic bone in her body all it'll take is finding models she likes. My girlfriend paints more than I do.

>>54871391
Tyrannids and beastiality porn

>>54871404
This, yeah. He comes back as close as possible to where he died, and doesn't get to charge.

Simplest answers are possibly the best.

Play a mock game with her using your models and give her the basics.
Alternatively see if she might like painting models.

>>54871334
Normally my leader gets an name and at least some kind of backstory; my Big Mek Dred Mob boss for instance is a mysterious masked merc who sells his troops to the highest bidder; he actually just got kicked out of his old klan for using the bosses favourite grot in a supacharged Killa Kan experiment that blew up.

Secondary characters and others like vehicles and squad leaders sometimes get back stories, especially if they do something cool in game, or other times to flesh out my leaders background (my Archon is secretly banging the Sybarite, etc)

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>>54871249
Yeah, after a google it looks like Vanguard Vets have the most suitable ones, and Deathwatch if I can make the two-handed one fit. Store has a Bitz Box that I'm fairly sure he does open to customers and the manager does play Deathwatch, so I'll ask him. Would rather not go through the rigmarole of carving up Marine arms and trying to make it fit on the Kairic arm.

>>54871239
Bring transports or teleport in.

>>54871155
Even though I play a fairly casual army composition to begin with, I tone it down so my opponents will have fun too. I win about 60% of my games, but they are usually down to the wire, so I know if I bring some extra hard hitting stuff, the games won't be as close. I have yet to play against some of the hardcore players in the store, so I'm not sure how my casual lists will fair against them. Could be a waste of a couple of hours as I get stomped. I already got stomped by a Custodes player who brought 1000 points to a 750 point game and a Custodes Land Raider. I had an extra casual list that day and it was brutal.

What was your list like? I have some Scions I want to build to add to my melee Guard+Ministorum army. Right now I avoid using too much artillery and I also stopped taking Celestine.

>>54871391
I predict this will get 6 gorillion replies and derail the thread before itself derailing into /pol/ shitposting.

>>54871391
Try to see if she likes painting. If she does, eventually "gift" her a few figs, a boxed set here and there, until she has a sizeable army.

Alternately, try to get her into Dawn of War. I know a lot of people who got into the TT from DoW.

>>54871334
I struggle to come up with names, but I usually do minor kitbashes for my characters or as count as special characters and I have minor background to them.

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>>54871383
Maybe I'll splash out and get a few. I've been enjoying the "What the hell is that thing" reaction from other players when fielding things like Sslyth, these seem like they'd get that response if nothing else.

>>54871391
Find what army she's really into and roleplay fucking her as a member of that army until she's conditioned to think about warhammer when she fucks and associates it with feeling good.

t. femanon

>>54871469
>dragondildos.jpg

>>54871249
>>54871275

[b]++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [33 PL, 666pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ HQ +[/b]

[b]Malanthropes [5 PL, 90pts]:[/b] Malanthrope

[b]+ Elites +[/b]

[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

[b]++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [33 PL, 666pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ HQ +[/b]

[b]Malanthropes [5 PL, 90pts]:[/b] Malanthrope

[b]+ Elites +[/b]

[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

[b]++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [33 PL, 666pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ HQ +[/b]

[b]Malanthropes [5 PL, 90pts]:[/b] Malanthrope

[b]+ Elites +[/b]

[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon


[b]Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts][/b]
3x Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

>>54871300
That should be fine. Strike squads should ride in the razorbacks until they're close enough to get out and charge.
I play Tau and have a tough time scalpeling out GK stuff. I'm considering going all fusion and melta against them because my volume fire stuff has such a tough time eating through all the armor.
That 3++ on the dreadknights is going to be a serious headache for anyone to chew through.

>>54871334
Tau names are kind of dumb and unmemorable so I don't really bother.

Maybe I should come up with a good nickname thing for my Commander, like Brightsword, Shadowsun, Farsight, Puretide etc.

>>54871431
this is my current list as it is as fluffy as i could get it without buying new models cause im waiting for the codex
5 tempestor primes with command rods
4 scion command squads with plasma
4 5man scions squads with 2plasma 1 plasma pistol
2 10 man scion squads with 4 plasma and 1 plasma pistol each
4 tarux primes with battle cannon autocannons / 1 of them has the gatling guns and hotshot volley guns
2 valkyrie vendettas with 6 lascannons each
1 officer of the fleet as an elysian so he can deep strike
and 13 ratling snipers to scout forward
10 command points

>>54871482
>33 PL
>666 pts
>3 detachments
>Broods of 3
>90pt HQ
Tzeentch is pleased by this

>>54871488
The Strike Squads are only there to cast Gate on whatever needs it and then maybe pump something full of storm bolter.
Essentially they are expendable.

What're some objective marker ideas for AdMech and Skittles? I have a fuck ton of Skittle sprues for bits.

>>54871493
Sounds rough. What half did you put in deepstrike? I'm not sure how I'd manage a list that was almost all DS.

>>54871382
Rulebook is full of shit. They must have been using 500pts as their baseline.

>>54871480
>>54871469
All I want is a cute girl who likes dragon dildos as much as I do. I curse my life.

Anyone got a pdf for the space marine codex?

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I just got 20 Dire Avengers on eBay for $38. Not bad eh?

>>54871405
Dear god I hop they buff regular suits too. It's 700+ points to run 6 crisis with missile pods and they do fuck all at BS 4+

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>>54871334
lords and ladies get names
officers are referred to by rank

I'll remember the exploits of individual models, but background beyond that is largely nonexistant. Considering how high the casualty rates are when I'm in command, I don't want to get too attached.

>>54871431
Could he really not trim down 250 points?
He sounds like an asshole based off that alone.

>>54871529
the list has 24 drops ao i can technically deep strike 12 units but in total i deep strike 3 tempestors 2 scion commands 4 scion squads (2 10 man/2 5 mans) and the officer of the fleet so 10 in total the rest ride in the vehicles as a mobile command unit
the ratlings technically do their own deepstike but it doesnt count as one

>>54871453
Yeah that's pretty much any DE unit at the shop I've been going to. Oh ok so it just sounds on 4+? I've had to show the index to a bunch of people thinking I'm retarded haha

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>>54871550
should be in mega

anyone got adb black legion, I've been away for a bit

>>54871569
*wounds

>>54871525
Xenotech? Maybe a crashed Eldar Grav platform with a somewhat-intact weapon? Tau stuff? Headless Necron warrior?

>>54871555
Playtesters mentioned that Riptides are getting buffed because 8th overnerfed them. No word on Crisis Suits though.

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>>54871155
Back in 7th I ran a list with a knight, marines and deathwatch. Me and a buddy decided on a 2500 point game with max cheese, and I gave him some next level shit.

The list would deepstrike in a squad with MMs and then a squad with frag cannons. This managed to kill my opponent's knight turn 1.

The rest of the game was spent having the knight stomp over his daemons and grav bikers kill his marines. He also had a bloodthirster which tried to charge my knight, but was straight up killed by warpstorm.

>hfw

7th were dark days.

>>54871539
Are you cute too? Link pics

>>54871566
He didn't understand the wargear points, so he brought like 740 points without wargear options. It was his second game I think.
>>54871567
Seems like a sound strategy to me.

>>54871334
I've been thinking I'm gonna name up my tank army, probably with a mix of German tank names like hetzer for my Hellhound or small statements like fuck you in Latin or something

>>54871334
Orks player here, although I've played and long sold off Tau and Tyranids but still have a small collection of Craftworld Eldar.

My Ork Stormboyz Nob was the center of a Killteam Campaign I participated in for several weeks so of course he's got a name and backstory. He's Stormboss Tuffnutz, as he's one tough nut to crack (gave him 4+ armour in the Killteam game)

Otherwise, I've got a couple name for a few of my warbosses (out of nine). One, blue Mega-Armored Warboss formerly with a lucky stikk is called Marneus Calgork (because he's big and blue). This pair of a Warboss w/ a PK riding on a boar is called the Boarboss, and his boar is Wildeyez. Otherwise, I don't bother making up or remembering names for the rest of the units if they aren't already a named unit like Ghazghkull or Grukk. My custom Big Mek w/KFF and regular one remain nameless, along with painboyz, Nobz with Waaagh! Banners, and the Weirdboy I have. The first Warboss I've had (from AoBR) I named Gol Dukat, from DS9.

I don't name vehicles, except for this one Dakkajet that is yellow, very decorated with freehand, that I call "da flyin' Squig" because of the mouth and eye design. I try to include that as often as I can, but unfortunately Dakkajets are kind of underwhelming in the game right now.

Aeldari that I have were given no names, overall I have an autumn scheme going on with them.

Tyranids that I had by and large had no names except for a Trygon we called Ziggy.

Tau had individually named Crisis suits, in the T'au way of giving names, with a backstory of them being from a moon's system (and carrying moon camo) and I've long forgotten them.

I've never given names for the banded together forces and armies I field.

I personally find it a bit cringy but commendable if you individually name every squad.

>>54871382
part of the problem is people don't know all the rules off hand. if you have to spend a few minutes double checking range, strength, ap, damage, etc for your dudes it gradually adds up. 8th might have shaved down a lot of rules but i'm about as fast as i was in 7th or any other edition. besides the pregame bullshit i had to do for daemons

>>54870919
Joke's on you, I have a start for a Fluffy Alpha Legion army

>>54871469
Oh if only you were easy coast. I'd make a real Guardswoman out of you.

Are twin assault razorbacks really worth it over twin heavy bolters? Or should I go with twin las instead?

>>54871581
interesting
reminds me of the time i played dark angels with the shroud car with like 6 land speeders sammy boy and a techmarine on a bike with the toughness 9 imperial knight
I shit on the whole army and ignored the knight on my turn one but then the knight proceeded to killing my whole army by him self.
on the final turn i had to take out the last 2 wounds with 15 supercharged plasma shots but failed and he won the game
i was a lil salty that it didnt die but that 5++ 6++ heal wounds on a 5++ saved the day

>>54871635
East*

>>54871637
Twin Assault is the good allrounder option and better than the twin bolters if you have the points to spare. Twin Lascannon is for if you want another anti armor tool in your arsenal, Razorbacks are sturdy enough that it'll normally get off a shot or two especially if you have more pressing targets.

Worth noting that the Razorback box only comes with Heavy Bolter and Lascannon options, so you'd need to convert or have the parts for the Assault Cannons for WYSIWYG

Are C-beam rapier batteries for CSM worth it?

>>54871599
No I'm just your average male

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>>54871638
this was its stat line

What's the best weapon for a Hammerhead?

>>54871635
>>54871646
I am, actually...

What's the go-to Tyranid unit to put into a Tyrannocyte, is it just The Swarmlord

>>54871701
>T9
God damn it

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>It's a /soc/ episode again...

What do you use to stream/watch streamed games? My store has been considering streaming games since GW is doing it too now.

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>>54871725
it was his warlord and it had only 2 wounds left
mfw

>>54871525
Computers, vehicle / mechanical wrecks, toasters, etc.

>>54871720
Anything that benefits from getting into melee as fast as possible. Genestealers maybe? Staby gaunt if you need to tarpit artillery.>>54871707

>>54871707
Well, knowing my luck you're in the south and not New England

Grey Knights Apothecary: Should he take a Sword or a Warding Stave?

>>54871757
No I'm in New England actually

The bad news is I'm already taken, unless you're bisexual and okay with sharing

>>54871757
The question is, how far will your sex drive take you?

>>54871765
I'd go with Stave. You want him to survive, he makes his points back healing models. Not killing them.

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Khornefags on suicide watch

>>54871771
Noooope. Super het. Dicks are a turn off. If you're ever in Western MA though I'd love a game all the same

>>54871790
given how loose army building is in this edition, it's not like it's a very big deal

>>54871790
For good reason.
Biggest blandening since 4th

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>>54871790

>profile pic of Malcolm X

why are chaos players so fucking weird

>>54871790
>implying the facebook knuckledragger's can overwrite rules

unless its an FAQ it cant overwrite rules

>>54871790
Bullshit.

>>54871809
Codex overrides index. GW say so.

>>54871791
You play around the Worcester area?

If you ever happen to see a girl with Orks its probably me

>>54871807
Probably thinks he's a BASED NIGGER or some shit. The only thing is, you can't tell if he's a leftwinger who worships BBC or a rightwing ethnonationalist like George Lincoln Rockwell or something.

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Good morning, 40kg.

I'm building a list around Yarrick, and would like your input. The guy's as much as a leman russ - 130 points - but has all the commissar abilities, relieving you of the need to buy one of those (30 points). You have to make him worth the other 100 points, though, even fighting something not Orks.

Best I can figure to do is put him down, then surround him with stuff to take advantage of his 6" reroll 1s aura.

>50 conscripts to his left
>50 conscripts to his right
>2 sentinel squadron to his front left
>2 sentinel squadron to his front center
>2 sentinel squadron to his front right
>3 leman russ behind him (probably plasma because reduced overheat)
>1 priest to add +1 attack to all infantry
>2 astropath for 2 castings of psychic barrier
>1 primaris psyker for backup casting and smite/gaze
>1 company commander for 2 orders/turn
>3 scions/infantry squads to hold backfield objectives

This would fill every slot for a battalion, giving 12 command points.

Deployment is basically Yarrick, commander, priest, and psykers in the center and all the other stuff orbiting that pocket to get rerolled 1s except the scions/infantry squads.

What do you think? Functional? Fair? Powergamey?

Man those chaos folks should really use their soul grinders to win the Konor campaign.

>>54871821
Post Orks

>>54871831
needs snipers

>>54871836
THIS.

My ex actually wanted an Ork army.

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I rarely seem to get actual advice in these threads, but I'll ask regardless:
Going for a Chaos brigade detatchment focused on Renegade Guard supporting CSM run as alpha legion, what is the best troops choice for filling things out? Renegade Militia seem a bit too poor in the shooting department, and cultists exist in both lists with 4+ shooting, but they're more restricted in weapon options and then you have to choose between running them from CSM for marks and legion bonuses, or as renegades for a covenant of Tzeench for overwatch on 5+ to hold objectives. Probably won't use mutant rabble as I want an organized regiment of heretics. Thoughts?

Also, local meta is alot of vehicles and LoW, I plan to have a Chosen squad full of Combi-Meltas hunting such things, but if I ever need to change is it worth magnetizing the combi/special weapons? I planned to do it for the Havocs as well, may be good to do it for my combis and terminators.

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>Ork player charges repressor
>charging within range of 7 heavy flamers
Why are Ork players so stupid?

Are baby carriers actually worth it? They look like fucking shite and I literally cannot be arsed painting something like that but I see a lot of people fielding them.

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>>54871826

the odds are definitely more in favor of the former

>>54871835
Post your soul grinders my dude.

>>54871835
Soul Grinder guy, you are an enigma.

How are my fellow death watch anons running their kill teams? I'm mostly just using regular marines and maybe a vanguard vet to jump out of combat and use my frag cannons.

Any anons throwing terminators in there? I'm finding I'd rather just run them as a terminator squad to take advantage of deepstriking, especially since my teams are small enough that leadership isn't really an issue anyway.

>>54871831
and these
https://tectoniccraftstudios.com/collections/movement-trays/products/custom-round-base-skirmisher-trays

>>54871836
My models are at my boyfriends place right now and I'm kinda self-conscious about the paintjob...

>>54871821
Na, that's too central. I play in the Springfield/Hadley area. Got a home table too. If you ever get this way and see "lightish red" Guardsmen....

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>>54871867
Nah, I'm just from /m/, have a cute squirrel in tau cosplay.

>>54871877
>RGG is from Boston

this explains a lot

>>54871875
Can't be worse than RGG dohohohoho

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>He doesn't drill his models eye sockets

>space tomb kings can't take units/armies of chariots
0/10 not real tomb kings

>>54871892
Like....what? Or are ye meming at us?

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>>54871898

>he doesn't chip away the bolts and actually drill physical bolts into his models

>>54871898
>he doesn't drill holes into the skulls of models that betray him

>>54871894
I'll take some pics of my sweet boys and post them later this week after I get a chance to touch up the paintjobs.

>>54871863
Dont do it man.
I survived the hell that was the 7th ed GK codex without a single dreadknight, and instead of becoming weak like all those bitches at my lgs relying on their cheese to win them the game, i learned to GIT GUD. Seriously, you dont know what victory tastes Until youve won a game against a gravspam bikespam centurionspam librariusconclave whitescar cheeselist specifically built to counter your list.
Real men dont need bitchass robots to smite the enemies of the Emperor.
Real men only need their steel, true grit and faith in the Emperor

>>54871835
Chaos actually has a legit chance of winning now....

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>>54871943
i agree

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WE HAVE THEM BY THE NECK NORTH AMERICA KEEP PUSHING!

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>>54871297

I'll take old work repurposed over commissioned deviantart artists who have only 2 weeks to work on a piece.

>>54871863
GM in NDK look really good (statwise, modelwise they're still trash).

But >>54871943 raises goodpoints

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>>54871334
>Me
>Play EC
>Warlord named Rygus the Rapist

You tell me anon..

>>54871970
That's not a Baneblade : 3

>>54871943
Fuck it, I'm gonna make my dreams of carrierless infantry GK come true.
For HQs, should I get a named dude or is a generic boy better? I'm more used to named-character faggotry but I'd be fine with either, whichever is better for listbuilding at least.

>>54871970
that's a big tank

>>54871970
I see both tank commanders are duking it out in the most honourable way.
>MELEE COMBAT

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>>54871835
I tried.
Pic related

>>54871983
Imo the only named dude worth it is Voldus. Otherwise our named guys don't do anything too exciting.

>>54871970
>parking argument.jpg

>>54871875
Sounds like you're shit.
That sucks.Every girl I know is an above-average painter.
You're hurting the stereotype.

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So what GW has changed in repacked start collecting boxes? Just new detachments sheets?

>>54871920
Legit invitation to come play if you're in my neck of the woods though.
Cute friends invited. I've got a regular chaos bro and bugboy I could grab as a 4th if needed

>>54872002
Ya and you only took two other tanks and a heldrake in addition to that defiler.

What did you expect in a infantry game...

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>>54871898
>He actually assembles the models he buys

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>>54872049

How would I do a good Aun'va counts as? Including the body guards?

I don't like his model (and fielding a dead guy feels odd) but I would like to use him in the game, so I'm thinking I'll convert up an Ethereal with similar enough aesthetics.

>>54872025
Everyone tells me they look good but I can't tell if they're just saying it because I'm a grill and as a perfectionist I'm never satisfied with them

>>54872037
Maybe sometime, I'll leave a post in the general thread on a friday if I'm free that weekend looking for western MA anon

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>want to buy a prince for my chaos duders
>plastic daemon prince no longer available
N-NANI?!

>>54872039
It was double VP for getting a kill with a vehicle.

I should've taken my russes but I wanted to play fluffy...

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>>54872049
>he paints his kits with random colors

>>54871704
I was all about ion cannons on paper but they do fuck all against vehicles from experience. You absolutely need the AP of a railgun to get through armor.

>>54872114
>not buying at lgs or online store
serves you right

Any Columbus players here? I'm looking for my first game

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>>54872119
>>54872049
>>54871898
>>54871915

>>54872101
Everyone says they're okay but you don't believe them?
Nevermind. You're exactly the fucking stereotype.

Post your puppies up here and we won't give a shit about your vagina.

Unless you actually post your puppies in which case cute dogs, or other metaphorical puppies, in which case the vagina will be subject to fierce debate.

>>54871903
>spearhead detachment
>catacombs command barge kitbashed to be pulled by wraiths
>5 annihilation barges kitbashed to be pulled by wraiths
>chariot spam lives on

>>54870931
Hey dumb dumb, me and another guy updated the Blood Bowl BSData less than a week ago. It's not horrifically difficult. You can do it too.

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>>54872114

>buying the plastic daemon prince
>he'll probably put a shoulderpad on its head like that one dumbass White Dwarf staffer did

>>54872167
?

>>54872167
post pic

>>54871334
If a dude does something awesome (One-shot a Hammerhead with a Lascannon? BROTHER SODIUS CHLORIDUS, now known as Salio to the Tau) they get something tagged on their base, skulls, trophies.

>>54871892
>All of Mass is Boston

>>54872167
>those models
I remember those, I agree they were hideous.

What I'm doing is sticking spare greater daemon heads on them.

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Anons, how many of you drink when you game? What's your alcoholic beverage of choice on game night? I'm a hard cider man myself.

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>>54871019

>>54872203

Everytime we drink while playing, it turns into a 4-way free for all with our warlords only.

>>54871809
The codex said it, which does overwrite datasheets in the index.

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>>54872092
Wargames Exclusive.

Get two of the middle girl as your bodyguards

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>>54872178
>>54872173
BEHOLD, THE TETRAD OF CHAOS!

>>54871903
So what C'tan could pull a Nagash off?
>get to full power and enslave the Necrons?

>>54872184
My GK playing buddy is painting up a shield drone for me that survived six FNP rolls from an autocannon attack

>>54872230
YES!

>>54871859
Mutants are the best proably, simply becuase they are so cheap. Also bonus fluff points for the alpha legion supporting a mutant uprising and then useing them as even-more-expendable expendable meat shilds
buuuut if you are held to not wanting mutants, go for cultist, they are 4 ppm in the codex, so cheaper than militia, which is what you want. fill the HS slots with either mortar HWT or a shit-ton of artillery.
Really think about weather you want to use chosen as special weapon caddies, whislt they get an extra gun (6 on chosen vs 5 on havoks) they are slightly more expencive. For melta/flamer the attack is worth it, for plasma it is not.

>>54872229
Sorry only uggo alien girls allowed in my army

>>54871739
Does he actually have the model?

>>54872282
yea he had it
he paid 400$

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>>54872211
I'd shoot those objectives if I can.

>>54872299
He didn't even order it from china? What a fucken scrub

>>54872230
fantastic

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>>54872230
What did he do to deserve daemonhood?

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>>54872114
How is the plastic daemon prince in terms of size when compared to the old metal one. I really like the old one but it feels so fucking small when compared to stuff like bloodthirsters and magnus. I need a new replacement.

>>54872230
>>54872167

It's the thigh plate.

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ok since my thread is dying I guess i will post the discussion here

Post fluffy meta things to do with 40K:

>refuse to play along side lamenters players, forcing them to play 2v1 games

>not telling your dad that you play Dark Angels

>almost exclusively playing against loyalist space marine players as a minotaurs player

>listening to 80's electro-metal as a Mechanicus player

>storing your dragon dildos next to your Tyranids

>playing Red Scorpions and calling other player's cowards if they use stealth/infiltration tactics

>doing adderal/coke/meth before playing Slaanesh CSM/Daemons

>being a mechanical engineer and playing a Mechanicus/Iron Hands army

>browsing /pol/ and playing Black Templars

>eating a burrito while playing Crimson Fists

>tfw too inteligent to play Tzeench

>dressing as your furrsona while playing space wolves

>not bathing as a Nurgle CSM/Daemons player

>starting a fist fight in you FLGS because you play Khorne CSM/Daemons

>stealing your opponent's minis as a Blood Ravens player

>being a goody-two-shoes, hero complex, rules lawyer and playing Utramarines

>being an arsonist and/or not knowing your dad as a Salamander's player

>being severely autistic and playing Iron Warriors

>riding your bike to your FLGS to play white scars

>never finishing your Emperor's Children army because its never "perfect"

>giving every single one of your dudes names and then RP giving them "orders" when you move them on the table, changing voices if your warlord dies

>thinning your paint with holy water when painting ecclesiarchy

>Playing orks while talking with a cockney accent

>Playing dark eldar and let out moans of pleasure each time your characters are wounded

>unironically thinking communism is a good idea and playing tau

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>>54872114
>ordering from GW

>>54872397
>release an even bigger DP

Stop it, GW. Please stop. Stop!

Fuck it, I still got my age old metal DP who's probably primarine size at this point, and I sure as shit am not gonna buy into this size creep.

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>>54872049

>>54872036
They repositioned the models. New pic.

Can't see the cover of the Orks one clearly but they might have swapped the Painboy for something else. Maybe.

>>54871314
What kit is that from? I'm making skynet necrons and could definitely make use of that sprue

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>>54872092

>>54872114
Why have two tabs open with searches for the exact same thing?

>>54872002
you suck, that's why you fucking failed

>>54872456
>>54872167
>>54872140
You seem to be missing the point.

GW is retiring the plastic daemon prince kit, why? for a new one?

>>54872491
New skull set on store.

>>54872480
painboy is still front and ... not quite center on that box

>>54872522
Could be, there are hints that Chaos Daemons is the 5th codex.

>>54872522
>sold out online
>retiring the kit

no anon, thats not how it works

just wait a few weeks and they should restock it.

your best bet is to buy it at your FLGS

>>54872522
reboxing it, not retired

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Finally finished my first squad of Death Guard.

people say nurgle is easy but it's tough to know when enough weathering is too much or not enough,

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>>54872534
Where are my Aeldari?!

>>54872471
> I sure as shit am not gonna buy into this size creep

This is why I still use my old metal Tyrants.

>>54872549
Probably going to be one of the last updated, anon. But, luckily, probably going to be one of the Codexes that actually gets new models, not just a rules-only release.

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With the release of the Codex, I'm going back and retooling the command section of my grey Knights. I'm pretty hyped we got chaplains too, though the one I made isn't WYSIWYG since he can only (for whatever reason) take a crozius. Oh well, still badass.

What are you guys up to hobby-wise?

>>54872552
And why I use my old Leman Russ (not the tank).

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>>54872572
Waiting for Chaos codex to arrive at my LGS and contemplating what legion / warband colours to paint my models with
I've been doing the latter for almost 2 months now.

>>54872431
I like fire, I have white african heritage and I didn't know my dad until I was 17. Salamanders is also my favourite chapter even though I don't collect marines, my life has fully embraced the meme.

>>54872431
>Playing Alpha Legion
>"Yes, this is 2000 points of Renegades, what do you mean what's the other case for?"

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>>54872604
Only one right answer.

>>54872547

Nurgle is easy if you slap some brown and green paint on and call it a day, not when you paint to the standard you have.

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>>54872604
Bone and black fampire. Embrace the malice!

really though pick something non-descript so you can play with rules as you want. Make your own stuff, just don't paint an OG legion

>>54872101
I've got a throwaway email [email protected] hmu with a screen cap with some (you)s sometime so I know it's not troll.

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>tfw I already bought some Dark Eldar minis in the heat of the moment but suddenly want to start collecting IG instead

what do i do brehs

>>54872522
theyre reboxing it just like they did with Skeletons and Daemonettes.

>>54872565
>Non-Marines
>getting new models

Friend, I would kill for new Dark Eldar Models, but I really don't see that happening

>>54872677
man what Dark Eldar probably have the best models out there at the moment what more do they need?

>>54872655
Sell DE on eBay at a ludicrous discount so that I can buy them! Then buy IG with the profit thanks in advanced chum!

>>54872655
how much did you buy?

what does /tg/ use as wound counters? just pushing a die around with your big bad characters? considering making a health scorecard with dice off to the side so I don't keep knocking the dice off when my DP flies around

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>>54872682
PLASTIC INCBI AND MANDRAKES!!!!!

>>54872655

Return them.

>>54872694
Just some scourges but I bought all my paints for the weird colour scheme I had planned too which won't carry over well to IG minis

>>54871831
I've done something similar and I must say it works super well. I like where your head is at. Last time I did it with Yarrick, Straken, 2 Conscript squads, Bullgryn, 3 Astropaths, a Priest, 3 Lemans and some Armored Sentinels. I really liked his re-roll 1s for melee with Bullgryn and Straken. They hit like trucks.

>>54872710
already assembled and painted bro. Only thing left to do is base them.

>>54872721
PRO.PAINTED.EBAY.MODELS.

>>54872543
>longer available
>purged from store page
>sold out
Ahuh.

>>54872706
Plastic Incubi/Striking Scorpions kit?

>>54872704
dice.

I'd love if GW sold some custom bases with a Clix-like dial for wounds.

>>54872713
well buy some guard then.

what colour scheme wouldnt work well on guard?

>>54872747
Pink and turquoise

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>>54872742
Yeeeeeees you get it Anon.

>>54872682
Would kill for a non-squatting pose Kabalite Warrior, Plastic Lelith, Lady Malys and court of the archon.

Also current Archon look shit, but you can kitbash a better one easily.

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>>54872631
Night lords would go really well with the bunch of old and new raptors i want to use but i'm not sure if i have the skill and patience to paint lightning on all of them. I really like the word bearer and iron warrior paint schemes too but their legion traits feel so underwhelming. Emperor's children are also nice but getting my hands on noise marines without resorting to third party bits is proving really difficult and expensive.

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Rolled 21, 57, 62, 23, 52, 50, 37, 85, 38, 89, 53, 15 = 582 (12d100)

Don't mind me.

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>>54872101
>grill
>perfectionist
>never satisfied

Where have you been my whole hobby life....

Perfectionism really impedes progress. Your painting is probably fine. Even in this hobby autisit will tell you something is shit if it is. Tau and Grey knights don't give a shit if your a chick.

>>54872141
If only you could make it up north a bit to Columbiana County. But that's a three hour drive either way. Good luck Columbus dude.

>>54872777
dice+12d100

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>>54872788

>>54872704
I once saw some mad cunt of a tyranid player who used magnetised rippers on the base of his big monsters as wound counters (removing a ripper each time the MC lost a wound). Couldn't be bothered to do that myself, but though it was pretty neat.

Possibly less feasible with the higher wound counts of 8th edition, though.

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>>54872788
>"grill"

>>54871375
A completely separate book which will likely address the issue.

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getting into painting the chadmarines half of the first strike set i got to get into the hobby. my guys are a raven guard successor, originally from a feral ice world but had left the planet uninhabitable from a war between a minor Ork Waagh and the entire chapter, leaving the chapter with two companies and now reduced to operate from their small fleet.

i wanna get a chadmarine chaplain cause they look cool but really im gonna try to get a couple beakie-only tactical squads instead of having all these 32mm chads.

Are tyranid warriors any good now?

>>54872855
>which will likely address the issue
>Models give a bonus to invulnerable saves for Infantry... while having an option to lose their Infantry tag.

>>54872861
>Raven Guard Successor

Nice try Alpharius

>>54871819
Is this confirmed somewhere?

>>54872772
There are a couple night lord anons here that have said it's a lot more simple once ya practice a bit.

>>54870933
wow
much playtest

>>54872883
its funny you say that i was thinking after i make 500pts of these guys to make 500pts of a alpha legion warband who'd employ some renegade guard they'd subdued to chaos, and thus also have this warband rival my custom chapter

>>54872888
He's just talking out of his ass.

If the codex overrides the index, then you can't field librarians or apothecaries on bikes. Which they stated to use the index for the desired rules and point values.

>tfw being magic suit of armor means that your funny space egyptian hat counts towards your height. saving your from manletness

ALL IS DUST

>>54872754
I mean you can drop the Pink and stay with the Turquoise stuff like Incubi darkness kabalite green etc to make a nice Guard Regiment out of.

Im painting my Tau Turquoise with Grey/Bone as an secondary Colour for contrast

>>54871980
That was retconed retard, stop sucking your headcanons cock

>>54872964
Would turquoise work with Savlar Chem Dogs?

>>54871986
for (you)

>>54871970
Why cant they repurpose the good shit from the early editions when it looked like something straight out of 2000AD

>>54872962
>being a 3 gram pile of dust
>easily able to carry 250kg of equipment.
>casually Farmers carry 83,500% body weight.
Ultimate Chads, get fukt manlet marines

>>54872974
How. Explain to us before running your mouth

>>54872813
Whats the story behind the couch again? Wasnt porn filmed on it? Whos couch is it?

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>>54872524
Thanks anon

>>54873061
Why should I explain to someone who's just a b8'ing retard?
Go look at the guard index

>>54873066
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-casting-couch

>>54873073
>You want me to explain my argument?
>DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, GOD WHY AREN'T YOU JUST TAKING MY WORD FOR IT

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>tfw when the teaser wasn't guard or steel legion and instead was for a nostalgia b8 specialty game that everyone will forget about a month after it releases

>>54873024
>Marines weigh ~320kg or 320,000g
>being a 3 gram pile of dust
What happened to the other 319,997g of Marine preDusting?

>>54872655
Why not both? China is your friend.

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>>54872992
Could use the Turquiose for The Armor and paint the cloth in a Steel-Grey

Whats the Tau doing during all this?

>>54873132
Their best

>>54873088
>give him source
>blusters like a retard anyways
This is the last message you get, you're either trying to wrap someone in an argument or you're just stupid, either way I've got better things to do, scream and whine all you want, say I abandoned the argument and you win for all I care

>>54872873
No

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>>54873119
>yet another skirmish game
>poorfags everywhere rejoiced

No new orks ever

>>54873132
Building up that plot armour for some bullshit

>>54873122
Got Tzeentched or some shit.

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>>54873119
>hating on the new inquisitorial acolyte release

>>54873122
Slaanesh snorted it

>community page says Thousand Sons can use expanded Hereticus discipline
>FAQ doesn't actually say it
Well, fuck.

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Rate my kill team.

>>54873119
You'd have to have been a mong to not realize it was Necromunda stuff they were hinting at

So 1950 points of super janitors is 3 5 man custodes and 3 venerable land raiders how turbo wrecked would this be in a meta that consist of almost purely of space marine and CSM varients?

>>54873073
Holy shit really? Just because he's in a Russ for the index doesn't mean the Baneblade didn't happen you fuckhead. It doesn't magically retcon it. Unless you're telling me Kell is alive and Creed is still heading armies because they appear in the index?

>>54873132
They no longer have a firewall blocking space, but a warp storm. So plot armor seems it weak enough for them to pass their armies through for another sphere expansion. Konor is on their list.

>>54873240
Unfinished-Bases/10

get dat boy out o dere post-zog ya git

>>54872682
Plastic Incubi my man. Mandrakes a shit

>>54873240
>no one plays killteam anymore/10

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>>54873240
One of these marines is not like the other, one of these marines just doesn't belong

>>54873073
Not the anon you were talking to, but what am I meant to be looking at? Nothing about Damocles in the Guard fluff pages or on Pask's bit, it's just his usual statline with no fluff.

>>54872025
Every other girl I know is an above average painter too. Except me. I'm too impatient for this hobby, but I always come back because I've been doing it since I was a young child. At least I finish my armies. That's 1 point out of 10.

>>54873294
What else am I gonna do with all these templates and scatter die?

>>54871239
Depends how they are built, 10 man strike squads with falchions and twin assault razorbacks can be brought in numbers and eat hordes.

>>54872211
This is alarmingly ugly

>>54873303
Just make sure you're hit and wearing low cut shirts to increase points.