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Dear /tg/,

do you give a fuck about Sweden's /tg/ products?

https://yawningportal.org/2017/08/13/sweden-takes-over/
>Thrudvang Chronicles
>Tales from the Loop
>Symbaroum
>Coriolis
>LexOccultum
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Mutant is pretty sweet.
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>>54853617
So an Arabian Nights setting?
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>>54853617
>/sweden-takes-over/
Haha, no that would imply that people would get out of their DnD comfort zone.

>Symbaroum
>Thrudvang Chronicles
>LexOccultum
Seems to be fairly generic fantasy, more or less so. Nothing for me.

>Coriolis
Okay, seems to be some sort of dungeonrunner- sci-fi, rules seem simple enough so it might be something i use to pull in new players.

>Tales from the Loop
>In this pen&paper roleplaying game, you play teenagers in the late Eighties, solving Mysteries connected to the Loop. Choose between character Types such as the Bookworm, the Troublemaker, the Popular Kid and the Weirdo! Everyday Life is full of nagging parents, never-ending homework and classmates bullying and being bullied.

Hahahaha...ha, fuck no. I work on myself, study and play RPG's to get away from my childhood, not to dive head first back into a trauma experience.
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>>54853617
Only if you consider Astrid Lindgren books /tg/.
I used to runa few very rule lite Ronja games with my nieces.
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>>54853784
>Hahahaha...ha, fuck no. I work on myself, study and play RPG's to get away from my childhood, not to dive head first back into a trauma experience.
But you will never get away from this until you confront it and make peace with your past.
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>>54853617
No, but I used to play Kult back in the days.
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>>54854019
That's truem but that does not mean that one needs to ecounter a situation that resembles the fear as much as possible. Like sending somebody with fear of highs to the top of a tower. Then we would be at a pre-Freud level od psychology and Freud was pretty basic.
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>>54853617
I just played Tales From The Loop and it was very fun, though I can't really see a long-term campaign coming out of it.

Bought Symbaroum and I like the setting a lot. The art and atmosphere are wonderful.

Mutant I'm just getting into. Always liked post-apoc mutant settings, especially After the Bomb, and this has "vault" construction/improvement rules as well. Looks very hardcore in the food/water/rads dept though, not fantasy mutants at all. Somewhat realistic, I think.

>>54853765
>unload my "Sweden yes" folder.
Go right ahead!
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>>54853772
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>>54853617
I wonder what Denmark, Norway and the other one think about their crazy progressive neighbor
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>>54854287
There is no other one.
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>>54853617
Taking over? But this statement is accurate:

>Sweden is slowly climbing to the top and emerging as major player in the roleplaying industry.

Emerging from a very small base, one could add.

But Sweden has always punched above its weight in every industry, from cars to white goods to software. Swedes (native Swedes at least, not the rapefugees who suckle at their breasts) have always been very smart and industrious.
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>>54854498
>But Sweden has always punched above its weight in every industry
Heh, reminds me of how Obama said that of EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. COUNTRY. he has ever visited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiId-VGrqqQ
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>>54854620
>EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. COUNTRY. he has ever visited.
Which isn't true, of course, because places like Brazil and Nigeria punch below their weight but that doesn't mean it's not true for Sweden.
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>>54854905
When everybody punches above their weight, nobody does. It's basically his way of saying "this is a first world country I know nothing about".
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>>54853617
Symbaroum is the only one I ever heard of and only because of /tg/.
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>>54853617
Nah, I have enough random encounter tables thanks.
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>>54853617
Coriolis is pretty damn good. I hope they keep making more books for it.
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>>54854287
the name you're looking for is Finland.

>>54854433
Finland wants to have a word with you.
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>>54854498
t. Swede
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>>54854287
I mean Norway and Denmark are generally two of the more progressive countries in Europe too.
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>>54854433
pls no bully finland
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Is tales from the loop in da archive?
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>>54857920
Finnish troll is best troll
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>>54853743
I wish I had someone to play this game with.
t. Göteborgare
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>>54853617
IDK, but I've been itching to try Sinbad the Spacer ever since I found out it was a thing.
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>>54859264
Heter du Glenn?
Also; man kan ju köra på internet
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>>54853617
Nope - I don't give a fuck. Sweden is for cucks and so it's their shit.
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>do you give a fuck about Sweden's /tg/ products?

Since I don't speak Arabic, no I don't.
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>>54853772

4chan has the originality of a lemming.
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>>54859250
Did someone say Finntroll?
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>>54859615
Did somebody say Korpiklanni?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ
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>>54854498
>Emerging from a very small base, one could add.
Not really. Until fairly recently, Sweden's RPG industry was second only to USA's.
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Anyone played Coriolis?
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First thing I fapped to as a kid!
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>>54853792
That sounds pretty cool, could you tell us a bit more about it?
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>>54853617

Kickstarted Trudvang for the sake of getting something of different origins for kicks and giggles.
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>>54853617
Running Symbaroum

Have run Mutant year zero

The new wave of Swedish rpgs are pretty decent in my experience. The old ones were a varied bunch. (I am Norwegian and read Swedish)

>>54854287
They're similar enough that I don't really think of them as foreigners.
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>>54857502
Norway is fiercely nationalistic and doesn't buy into the EU or forced migration.
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>>54863668
>fiercely
I wouldn't say that. Norway has a considerably larger rural population than Sweden and Denmark, so the big city-mindset isn't a prevalent there. Besides, Norway is part of the EUs single-market, and they were and are against joining the EU because of their quite unique economic situation.

Anyway. Trudvang's pretty neat in theory; I just haven't had the chance to play it. Wasn't an english version released under the name Trudvang Chronicles, or is that an upcoming thing?
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>>54853617
Still working on transcribing and translating Drakar och Demoner 5th ed (Chronopia). Taking a break from the setting books, working on transcribing the magic rules from the main book, since it's the only part of the rules that can't be lifted out of the Mutant Chronicles RPG books (the 90s version, not the recent edition). I'm getting tired of typing "besvärjelse" over and over...
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>>54853617
What are any of those things listed
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>>54861593
Just a couple of one-offs with her playing Ronja.
Stuff like a bunch of soldiers taking away her and Birk's horses and the two having to steal them back, her secretly befriending a mountain troll to help patch up the frissure in the castle, that sor of thing.
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>>54853784
>Hahahaha...ha, fuck no. I work on myself, study and play RPG's to get away from my childhood, not to dive head first back into a trauma experience.

Anon you're missing out. One of the best games I ever did was a Stranger Things style one-shot in Bubblegumshoe. It's actually a little cathartic to relive adolescence as an adult.
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>>54863744
Trudvang looks pretty neato burrito.

They put out a KS for the english version and it worked out to about $20 per book. I backed it and have the beta books, rules look fun. Lots of stuff for actually being a prepared adventurer trekking out into the wilderness which I like.
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Hey Sweden, why do you have so many crime dramas on tv?
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>>54868113
Dunno. It's like the most popular genre in Europe or something. The Germans output new TV crime movies every week. Swedish crime novels are huge and have had great international success.

Still dunno why people are so in love with it.
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>>54868113
You could ask the same about pretty much the entirety of, at least, northern Europe. Both Brittain and Germany puts out several crime dramas every year. My personal theory is that people like to feel smart, at the same time as they don't like to feel belittled by having stuff go over their heads, so they watch detective shows where the mystery is neatly wrapped up at the end and couldn't actually have been solved before then given the information the viewer had, and that are more about the drama between the characters than any actual mystery solving.
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>>54868113
We enjoy the fantasy that our cops might solve cases.
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>>54853617
>do you give a fuck about Sweden's /tg/ products?

I do, I think Drakar Och Demoner looks really super, duper, interesting and I've absolutely fallen in love with it's style and aesthetic- the artist(s) they have on board are simply amazing.

But I don't understand Swenglish and I don't know if it's been translated into a non-cuckold language, so here I suffer.
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>>54853743
I don't really get this games popularity. The setting is pretty cool but I can't get over the rules. They are far to simple.
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>>54859285
Of course his name is Glenn
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>>54868113
>>54868402
The swedish equivalent of the BBC will never go without a few british crime dramas airing a few times a week.

>>54868461
Swedes and Danes share a love for pretty grim shit. Gritty crime dramas take what's worst of our society today and pit it against the structures they're worked to uphold. I'm sure there are people with that exact mindset, but the scandinavian preference for cynical media (sometimes with optimistic undertones) is something that goes way back.

>>54868502
Nice
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>>54859615
Fine taste detected.
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>>54863668
>forced
Letting people in after you ruined their countries is not "forced".
Forced would be going somewhere shanghai people and load them off somewhere else.
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>>54868704
>honestly being enough of a left wing leaning parasite that you think anyone but them ruined their countries
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>>54868704
>muh white guilt
>muh sins of the father
Please
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People without atleast half-decent knowledge of the intricacies of swedish 20th century history, the swedish mindset, and especially swedish politics the last 30 years shouldn't really be going on about the immigration situation.

It's been the subject of intense political attacks since the 70s; this isn't new, nor is it fun to default to every time the country's mentioned.
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Patiently waiting for an english version of Trudvang

The artwork in that game is top tier
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>>54868771
It really it. The inspiration they got from illustrators such as John Bauer is obvious; their art got a very similar mythical veil over it and feels distinctly scandinavian.
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>>54868770
Nobody should be going on about the immigration situation, this is /tg/.
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>>54868719
D*anes were proficient slave traders in their prime
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The game rules for Swedish RPGs have become too simple.
It's literally made so that you can invite your wife, her son and the sons foreign born grandmother to a session without any preparation.

It's a product of "we are concerned about the demographics of our products"

Shit tier oversimplified rules made to appease non rioleplayers who aren't going to buy it anyways
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The greatest Swedish RPG/LARP thing is still Gang Rape. Prove me wrong.
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>>54868848
Could you make that point without being autistic and off-topic thank you
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>>54868858
The rules are written to appeal to a demographic that doesn't buy the product
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>>54868865
See? Not so hard, being more mature than kid on his first tour to /pol/.
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>>54868881
Who's going off topic now.
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>>54868881
Holy shit you're sensitive. Stop injecting Arab blood and semen into yourself.
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>>54868856
Don't know about LARP, but Mutant has always been very popular in rpg circles I've been part of. I should probably actually play it at some point.
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>>54868865
Ok thank you anon.

It's an issue with pretty much any hobby that's previously been quite niche; the second there's a hint of a more wide-spread interest in it the companies scramble to alter their product to capture that. An apt analogy to something like a video game would probably be Dawn of War 3; the developers tried appealing to the demographic of an extremely popular, but different, genre. The result was that the original fans of the series didn't buy the game, nor did it actually manage to attract the new crowd, because ultimately it was still the wrong kind of game for them.
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>>54868848
Rules for Swedish RPGs have always tended to lean towards the simple, in large part due to almost all of them being heavily influenced by BRP. The only real exception to this have been NeoGames whose games instead seem to have taken theur cues from systems like Rolemaster and Traveller.
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RPGs for grannies and cucks.

They used to publish massive cult hits that people were translating by hand in basements all over the world.

Now they're just trying to market to Mustafa Khalil and Lisa Svensson 16yo
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So where are we on that sweden YES folder dump?
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>>54863744
But it's the rural northern Swedes who vote for the far left.
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I don't get it, out of all the possible candidates why did Sweden end up as /pol/s punching bag?
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>>54871994
Probably because Swedes on /pol/ go to great lengths to make it seem as if the country is way worse off than it actually is.
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>>54871994
>>54872070
Cowardly government officials and a judicial system that is horrid. You can get away with very nasty crimes in Sweden since most Swedes are cowards or idiots.

t. Swede
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>>54871273
You can be a leftist for economic reasons, anon. Communism and syndicalism used to be pretty entrenched in northern Sweden as most of the population worked in the mining industry; it was never about migration.

Besides, the far left never had influence over Sweden's immigration policy; the current situation was caused by 8 years of rule by the center-right, arguably neo-liberal "Moderate Party" and their quest to weaken the unions and undermine the welfare state. They were the ones to tear up laws made by the Social Democratic party that put a hard cap on the number of non-workforce immigrants that could come to the country back in the early 90s, then really open it up after 2006 when they got into power again.

>>54871994
Sweden's been a punching bag for every right-winger and plenty left-wingers all over the world since the early 70s. It's what happens when you somewhat successfully unite the nicer ideas of socialism to humanise the capitalist system, promoting free enterprise and an extensive welfare state. People used to go on about how there must be something very rotten about Sweden since it had the highest suicide rate in the world. Hint; it didn't. Also basement dwelling muppets like >>54872070 said.

I'm not about to make any excuses for this kind of immigration or its issues, I just want people to know what the situation's actually like and understand why it happened. As a "grey" social democrat I don't care for it at all.
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@54872125
>i just want to save sweden
>by the way swedes are disgusting cowardly individuals
Just fuck off already
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>>54872153
Who said I want to save it? Sweden squandered it's future by wasting money on subhumans and playing Little America.

Also don't believe the leftists blaming the so called moderate party, both are too blame.
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If you're going to talk about /pol/shit, go to /pol/. Why is this so hard to understand?
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>>54872136
>People used to go on about how there must be something very rotten about Sweden
It's more that Sweden is portrayed as a leftist utopia when the reality simply is that it isn't as good as it sounds. Neither is it as bad as the alt-right tries to make it sound.

There are many positive aspects to Sweden, and there are many negative.
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>>54872136
>the current situation was caused by 8 years of rule by the center-right
Nah man. They only followed the policies set by the social democratic government before them.
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>>54872910
Ingvar Carlsson's social democratic governmente enacted something they called the "Lucia Agreement" in the late 80s. It said that in order for Sweden's welfare state to function, the country would ONLY accept refugees according to the UN quota, and that any large scale immigration would lead to far too high unemployment and would undermine both the unions and the working class. This "Agreement" was torn up by Carl Bildt's short-lived moderate government in the mid 90s. The following social democratic governments didn't make any major changes like the previous two had, atleast not in regards to immigration, though you can say what you wish about Göran Persson's privatisation efforts. In 2006 the moderate party and their fellow coalition members had the opportunity to form a government again and made a win-win deal with the Green Party. In exchange for the Greens' support of the Moderates' coalition's budget in parliament, the moderates would adopt the Green Party's immigration policy, something that was already in line with Reinfeldt's ideas which he'd been espousing since the 90s.

The Green Party risks losing all their seats in parliament at this point and have only really been used as useful fools by the Moderates and Social Democrats respectively since 2006. Just look at the Center Party, one of the Moderates' big allies. They are the only party next to the Greens that are still arguing in favour of mass immigration, and their party leader is the kind of woman who expressed adoration for Ayn Rand, calling her one of the "greatest thinkers of the 20th century" and Atlas Shrugged her favourite book. Neo-liberalism, which I might add is a right-wing ideology, did this. The far left is horrendously naive, but atleast they wear their true intentions on their sleeve and won't be getting into power any time soon.
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>>54863668
>fiercely nationalistic
Eh. Patriotic maybe, but I wouldn't say nationalistic.

>doesn't buy into the EU or forced migration
I mean neither of those are inherently progressive themselves.
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