NECROMUNDA RETURN CONFIRMED GET HYPE

>>54851646
I believe that's the name of the vidya.

>>54851655
As long as Focus Home Interactive keeps their hands of it has a chance.

They fucked up Battlefleet, Deathwing and Mordheim. Im rly salty about Mordheim.

>>54851719

What was wrong with Mordhiem? It seemed a good game showing off what made Mordhiem fun without being a 1:1 translation.

>Female
Can't possibly be GW, its likley some shit third party company like that Space Crusade that showed up randomly last year and faded away.

>>54851646
http://necromunda-underhivewars.com/

>>54851757
Aww damn you had me thinking they might've finally revealed something

>>54851646
>>54851655
>>54851719
>>54851732
>>54851749
>>54851757
>>54851786
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/

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>>54851655
>>54851719
>>54851757
Nope. Nopenopenope

Feast your eyes everyone.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/

>>54851646
WE WUZ GOLIATH

>>54851732
This gonna be fuking long post if you ask this question.
So lets say they they fucked up how campain missions play out. They fucked numbers and flow of the game and lack of customizations of your dudes.
I had FIVE-5 fukin skavens in first mission, who had to trade blows with humans like any normal band. Mordheim worked cuz its was mostly alpha strikes, if you atacked a goon you had chance to ko him and dont lost yours. Vidya made it so everyone were the same, and there was no point in rage fights since your shrukens/darts/whatever had no chance of stoping guy before he smashed you.
Also with 85% chance of doge you fail just as easy as with 10% chance.
To add chery on top, for some reasons all models looks like shit save for skavens, there are no elves, orks....just fukin humans hiden behind dlc.

>>54851836

Hol up, let me holla atchu. We needz more imperial credits fo dem programs. Where be all da white Escher at?

>>54851830
>>54851821
OH SHIT

That's the laspistol from earlier too

>>54851830
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/
Nice for it to return but Im the only one who dosn not digg those minis at all? they look old...like 20 years old.

Holy fuck, that... doesn't look terrible? First time in a while. As long as those are the older bases, and we're not getting mega sized gangers now alongside everything else getting bloated up, I might actually get this. Also, GW really, really need to sack their current studio painting team, or at least whoever keeps insisting on this weird pastel comic book tone - Kitts fucking terrible.

>>54851830
Well I'm going to need a ton of these kits to make some decent looking cultists. Might sell off my DV ones to make room

>>54851891
>>54851902

Oh so its the new GW painting that sucks, thanks god. Can some one past some lore on Necromunda Amazons?

>>54851917
>Sell off
I've tried, man, you can't give those away

>>54851902
Fuck, those are the bigger bases aren't they? So the scale creep is in.

>>54851902
>>54851891
Rules for 40k Necromundian Guard when?

>>54851891
>>54851902
https://youtu.be/P3ALwKeSEYs

>>54851933
Looks like 25mm base for the girls, 32mm for the leader?

>>54851899
That's kind of the appeal. They are relatively subtle and toned down compared to the recent CAD monstrosities (except the goliath, who've always been the ridiculous faction). I like it, as long as they aren't needlessly scaled up to be bigger than marines for no fucking reason.

>get hype!
>pre-order at full RRP goyim!

>>54851971
And 32mm for the goliaths as they are huge

>>54851861
The only way to fight ranged in random missions was to cheese it, bring one captain and everyone else an archer.

Put them high up while the captain blocked the only way up to them and wait.

The fact everything was so artificially stacked against the human player just to make up for the programmers own lack of skill at creating good ai was the worst

>>54851830
Those Escher gangers are disappointing.

>>54851971
I dunno, I've got a sinking feeling the Escher are just massive. Look at the unpainted Goliath - pretty sure those are 32mm bases and it would be very odd if they varied sizes between human scale models on such a small scale game.

>>54851937
I dont think they have regiments since its Imperial Fist recruiting planet, only PDFs for them.

>>54852011
There's been a number of famous necromundian guard regiments

>>54851928
House Escher are literally an entire noble house of man-hating feminazis. Their men are mostly breeding stock with little actual rights, their women do the fighting and actually run the house's business affairs. They absolutely loathe House Goliath because they're almost all meat-headed musclemen whose approach to warfare is "get swole, get big sharp objects, plunge them into your enemy".

>>54852011
There are Spider regiments since 1st edition, last time they were mentioned in Regimental Standard.

>>54851928
Quick run down on escher

>Mining sector on Necromunda cracks open some dodgy gas
>All the men working the mines are afflicted with a degenerative disease
>The women take up arms and keep their families fed, through any means necessary
>Their territory borders the goliath's making them the main enemies
Somewhere along the line they started dying their hair pink and being led by a woman wearing a conical bra called mad donna, but who's to say that disease didn't affect the women too by proxy?

>>54852011
The necromundan spiders regiment is one of the first guard regiments ever depicted for 40k.

>>54852011
(you) earned it

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>dat skulls-mohawk-chainaxe.
>brutal/10

thats the most metal thing I've seen in a while.

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>>54852038
Kal Jerico had that story about a noblewoman escaping to the underhive and taking up with an Escher band.

She had gone too 'native' that Kal doubted her family would pay for bringing her back

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Nah fuck that. NuGW make some nice big plastic kits, if you're into that, but they couldn't run a fucking bath properly.

If you got excited over them bringing Blood Bowl "back" or this you're a complete GW drone, both games have had fan communities for years and GW coming back is like a drunk dad at a wedding. All they'll do is sell a few dummies the freely available old rules split down into £30 campaign books or something.

Escher look alright, Goliath look too ridiculous and a bit poo. I'm guessing the Judge Dredd vibe will be going completely out the window.

Goliath looking like generic vidya baddies, gimme some more beefcake skin dammit

>>54851977
Bare models look fine, it was shit painting that makes them look dated.
>>54851983
Thats why I gave up, first chaos campain mission, I killed almost all of oposing band twice due to riddiculus reinforcment rules. And my chaos sorceror was geting hit by perlis of the warp each game, high risk no reward.
>>54851978
Fuck of PP
>>54851971
Looks like 25mm for girls and maybe 32 for boys.

>>54851902
I want to have sex with that stub pistol

>>54852038
>dying their hair pink and being led by a woman wearing a conical bra called mad donna
I love 80`s
My only hope is our feminazis dont pill up on escher and ruin it, I want snu snu my little azmazons in peace.

Jesus Christ..........

>>54852127
Its hardly a stub pistol by that point, its like the stupid meatheads took a revolver and built it at the scale of a rifle.
Does it fire grenade rounds or what?

>>54852143
revolver rifles are a thing.

>>54852143
it's a deagle brand stub pistol

The chain glaive makes me think they'll add in some new profiles.

>>54852152
But its still an oversized revolver handgun

>While lightly armoured, these cunning warrior women hold their own in melee combat, while at range, they are notorious for their use of armour-melting plasma weaponry.

No no NO FUCK NO SHIT FUCK. I know it's too late to say it, but please don't go down the Necromunda Underhive route with the shitty each-House-has-their-own-equipment-list.

>>54852213

If anything it'll get worse, looking forward to Goliaths having StubStorm Reaper Cannons™ or whatever dumb copywritable shit they dream up.

SCAVVIES WHEN

THE SHITSUMP BOYS MUST LIVE AGAIN

>>54852213
Different gangs could just have some weapons being cheaper or more readily available to them?

>>54852213
nah its fine. the different equipment lists is part of what makes the gangs distinct.

like my Goliaths "sniper" was handing a shotgun loaded with bolts to the guy with BS6.

>>54851914
>>54851928
It's not GW but Forge World.

>>54852234
Ah surely you mean Housarium Golithurk™

>>54852074
I bet the sculptor is the one that made the Custodes, same retarded poses.

Didn't house Cawdor have a firmly noted preference for flame weapon?

>>54852213
>each-House-has-their-own-equipment-list
didn't they always have their own equipment lists to a degree? Like, I remember escher could take swords on their regular gangers while everyone else had to suck it up and deal with all the parries.

or am I just remembering wrong. It's been a whlie.

>>54852213
That's literally how it is in standard old necromunda. Escher leaders can take plasmaguns, van saar leaders get meltaguns, cawdor get heavy flamers as a heavy weapon, etc.

Much like the different skill trees it doesn't take much to diversify the gangs.

>>54852277

That's why he said Necromunda Underhive specifically, ie 2nd edition

>>54851830
If the bring back the House Cawdor or the Arbites as well, I will spasm around atleast 3 days.

>>54852251
I preferred having skills being the thing that kept the houses distinct, rather than forcing houses to use particular equipment sets. Gangs growing into their house identity was nice, and in big campaigns, it meant that not every Escher / Delaque / Orlock etc. etc. gang was the same at the start.

Probably not going to bother picking up the new rules, because it's going to be the usual nuGW shitshow, but it might be nice to grab a few extra models to refresh my old gangs with.

>>54852298

I actually hope they don't bring Enforcers back too quick. They were never meant to be a real gang, they were so the guy running a Campaign could whittle down any gangs that got ahead of the rest.

That wouldn't be enough for GW or the players now, they'd just throw them in.

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>>54852298
>Prepare for Judgement

>>54851902
>that revolver shotgun
The time has come and so have I.

>>54852277
>That's literally how it is in standard old necromunda

Nah mate, that's how it was in Necromunda Underhive. In standard old Necromunda, only the Outlanders were restricted in what shit they could buy (Eviscerators for Redemptionists! Fucking silly harpoon guns for your Scalies!), and what made Houses unique were visual style and what skills they had easy access to when upgrading.

Will you be able to take options not in the box? I hate how that question needs to be asked now with GW.

I wonder if the game will be different to SWA, like a more streamlined version, because I enjoy the lore and theme aspect to the game but I can't quite get into the whole '2nd ed' play style both games had going for them, like eveytime I play the game it's fun for about 2 games then it losses it's fun really quickly after that... I hope it's a more streamlined skermish or a whole new ruleset

>>54852316

THIS. The only guy who played Arbites (Enforcers?) was literally autistic and couldn't understand why no-one wanted to play his wall of armoured Bolters that rarely run out of ammo

>>54852316
>>54852362
Aren't arbites/enforcers an NPC faction?

>>54852316
I think, or at least hope they'll at least get the main four out of the way before blowing their loads on enforcers.

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>>54851646
Praise the Emperor.
>starter is Goliath vs Eshcher
Filthy heathens!

>>54852362
Did Necromunda ever have a space marine faction?

Though being serious I could see it working such as Enforcers as an NPC faction.
Either a single Movie Marine-esque individual is dropped in against everyone else like a Spyrer or else the 'gang' takes the form of a squad of Space Marine Scouts in the underhive for a particular objective.

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>>54852332
nah regular necromunda had distinct equipment lists as well.
I remeber that my goliaths couldn't take lasguns.
This is the cover.

>>54852358
I'm expecting it'll be the same rules with maybe a few tweaks.
more in depth gang and campaign rules.

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>>54852385

They were meant to be, but other than whoever was running your campaign's discretion, you could field them since the Fanatic Magazine articles never really said. If you hated fun.

They'll probably never get around to Spyrers, I have a couple but some are rarer than hen's teeth.

I did not expect this.

Will it be an expansion for Shadow War, or a whole new game I wonder?

>>54852446
They were no faction, they were special NPC for some encounters. A single Space Marine would rip fresh new gang to pieces effortlessly and be a real challenge for veteran one.

>>54852467

Can't see how they'd improve Underhive's campaign rules, especially looking at what they did for SWA

>>54852408
>beefcake vs cheesecake.

>32mm bases
>25mm were already awkward enough on the stacked terrain at times

Anyone at GW actually have a brain?

>>54852499
they'll most likely be using the shadow war gantries/buildings, which work fine with 32mms

Wonder if they'll have some card in the box, though, for old times sake.

>>54852451
No, really, you're wrong - you're conflating it with the stuff from Necromunda Underhive.

>>54852522
maybe.
the smaller 40k startersets have some form of cardboard terrain I think.

>>54852539
I'm not. I've literally never played undergive.

>>54852471
I don't remember those Patriarch and Matriarch models.

Funnily on the FB trading pages there seems to have been a few people listing Necromunda this morning, how convenient.

>>54852579

They're incredibly rare, they weren't in production for long before Specialist Games got canned. Seen them go for £100+ each.

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>>54852552
You're wrong. Gangers - of any of the houses! - start with access to the hand to hand, pistols, basic weapons and grenades lists. The introduction of "House X gets this equipment from a House list" is in Underhive.

>GET HYPE
Can someone who has played Necromunda explain why? I'm only really familiar with Epic and BFG.

>>54852011
>set up a recruitment station on planet
>suddenly planet loses all requirements for paying tithes to the Imperium

Why haven't traitorous chapters and Alpha Legion used this tactic to starve the Imperium of guardsmen?

>>54852320
Who dat with the bald head?? Model looks great.

>>54852704
It's one of the most "your dudes" wargames around. Your gang evolved over time as members either died or learned from experience, plus its smaller scale and having to factor in ammunition and the fact you were largely fighting other humans meant lasguns were actually a decent choice to equip your gang with.

>>54852718
Limited-edition Arbites they made for a Games Day once, if I remember correctly.

>>54852704
it was the better of the two GW skirmish games mechanically and had a more unique punk aesthetic

that's about it

>>54852722
although that's cool from a rules perspective it makes for weird situations models-wise, as your models all represented named gangers with stories to tell, and each ganger can really only have so many cousins/twins/bffs to fill in

>>54852718
The judge.

>>54852730
Damn that's a shame, I want.

>>54852761
There are certain recasters that still sell him, I believe

>>54852761
I think a few are on EBay, although from what I can recall they are a lot more expensive than standard gangers.

>>54851719
But anon, if it doesn't hurt it doesn't count.

>>54852715
becauseit wouldn't work.
chapter recruiting worlds still produce guard regiments.

>>54852788
Space marines take in so ridiculously few potential recruits at a time it would a terrible waste not to also raise guard regiments.

I'm literally just here for a Klovis the Redeemer model.

>>54852741
That's why each gang had a distinctive style. Also why the otherwise shitty plastics in the 1995 boxset were such a good idea: you could easily chop them up for conversions or weaponswaps. GW going all-plastic for this sounds amazing.

>more eschers

But I have like 3 dozen of the metal ones already...

>>54852805
Delaquefag here, quit your complainin'

>>54852805
You wouldn't happen to have spare plasma heavy by any chance?

>>54852788
I believe that was sort of my point.

Chapter homeworlds, forge worlds, etc. are exempt from raising regiments for the Guard. But just because a chapter puts a recruitment station on a planet does not make it a chapter homeworld.

>>54852820
I only have one, sorry.

>>54852741
it wasn't that much of an issue.
A model being "killed" on the TT actually represented just a serious injury, having a ganger actually die was rare.

you could go through a whole campaign with most of your original gang still alive at the end.

>>54852841
A scav gang spamming plague zombies was risky

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This hive ganger is from a part of the hive so isolated they've regressed into barbaric tribals

feels like very old 40k lore

>>54852741

Yeah, I always found that awkward about Necromunda, after 10 games am I actually expected to clip up my metal models and put a Power Axe and Bolt Pistol with Red-Dot Sight on them?

>>54852867
No, just get a model that fits. Having a spare for converting up will usually work.

>>54851928
No. It's Forge World. That's why the painting sucks. All the good painters were switched to GW.

>>54852867
Plastics might alleviate it a bit. Get a box of spares to make into dudes with more elaborate gear, swap out as needed.

>new about this was releasing years ago
>tried to inform as many people as possible
>was ignored and called everything from a shill (wut?) to a liar
>it comes out
>everybody orgasms

I hate you guys.

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>>54852882
>new about this was releasing years ago
so did everyone

>>54852882
who are you

>>54852893
Yeah I knew about it before that. When that got released I used it as proof but people still didn't believe.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/image/E85fvi3OMoxPTQfLOjO-nQ/

>>54852867
I usually opted for spending hard earned credits on new gangers. Stuff like Power Axes felt like overkill.

Having said that, I remember having the rather goofy Delaque heavy with lascannon model, and so every campaign we played as teenagers saw me desperately trying to scrape together the 400 (I think?) credits required to buy a lascannon.

>>54851646
of course GW would include some sjw feminazis in the game, they're mainstream now.

ENFORCERS WHEN?

PROPER DUNCAN PAINTJOB WHEN?

>>54851830

You'd really think FW would have at least one person who could paint well.

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>>54852932

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>>54852932
That is some of the lowest quality bait I have read here in MONTHS. Really, get your diet and shit together, if you want to post here

>>54851646
Necromunda returns!

As a boardgame with limited rules different to the original and a different scale.

>>54852074
>Same skull spaulder as Inquisitor Greyfax.

Cawdor when?

>>54852867

I fully intend to put a fridge-door-worth of magnets into every model. Wrists, shoulders, knees and neck at the very least.

>>54852932

Escher have been feminazis since the early 90s, you turbopleb.

>>54852932
>>54852979
Well, the peasants parents should talk to him and get him back to plow fields

>>54852893

Except this list has proven to just be generic as more information from FW themselves has come out. They've stated they have no desire to do anything like Epic at the moment outside of Adeptus Titanicus and the Battlefleet game will be set during the HH.

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>>54852974
That would be Shadow War: Armageddon.

Also, with the new sets like Know No Fear it means we might actually get a decent amount of terrain in the box (although cardboard) instead of the awful stuff SWA had.

>>54852979
>Cawdor when
Enforcers when.

>>54853003
Heard from a GW employee yesterday that Epic IS in production.

>>54853014
Also Battlefleet Gothic. They're still working on them at the moment.

>>54853005
Nice paintjob. Yours?

>>54853003
we have plastic blood bowl and now plastic necromunda

I think the list is quite accurate, even if it may be a couple years before we get epic or BFG.

>>54853024
Not mine, although I do have 2 copies of the model. Need to get them commissioned at some point.

>>54852081
Dude, did you even see the original Goliath designs? They screamed 'aggressive gay sexual predator'. The new ones are about 90% less 'you dropped the soap'.

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>>54853050
What, you don't like half-naked muscular men wearing BDSM gear and frilly hairstyles?

>>54853078
oily

>>54853005

I suppose we've got all the models they need for genestealer cults already, theyre the only non-core gang I could see us getting very soon. The real question is which of the main six gangs will get models quickly, and which will be left waiting for endless months after release.

>>54851891
>Women models
>Andy HOARE
pottery

>>54853078
I can almost hear village people playing through my monitor.

>>54853091
Delaque and cawdor are the ones I could see waiting for a while.

>>54851830
>un-drilled barrels

This is what gw quality has come to

>>54851891
Hello, new cultists.

>>54853133
There's a bit of Mad Max to them too.
And then there's Ratkin and Scavvies...

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>>54851646

Minis are Primaris scale, not compatible with old Necromunda minis.

Also, if this is Necromunda, what the fuck was Shadow War that people spent money on?

Fuck this. And fuck you, GW.

>>54852031
No woman ever fantasized about getting raped by a Van Saar

>>54853155
>Minis are Primaris scale

Seriously? Where did you see that?

>>54853155
>what the fuck was Shadow War

Another game.

>>54853155
>Primaris scale
Hello, new Goliath Berserkers.

>>54853168

A friend has seen them in person. 32mm bases.

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>>54853155
I think Shadow War was GW testing the waters, and also to see if they could get away with the lazy route of porting the rules but using regular 40K models.

I enjoyed it, but you could definitely tell they half-assed it. Certain factions like Harlequins we're blatantly broken.

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DROPPED

>>54853155

In the last few years, GW have released Kill Team, Shadow War and now this formally. They don't give a fuck, they just want your box set money.

>>54853155
>Fuck this. And fuck you, GW.
Yeah, fuck them for making multipart plastics for a classic and beloved game.

fuckin money grubbing kike motherfuckers who just hate their older players

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I hope genestealer cultists look are the same scale.

>>54853193

SM were also on 32mm bases.

>>54853195

There is no way this was done within a couple months and has nothing to do with GW since it's being released by FW.

It was already rumored from numerous previous events that they were going to do or were looking into doing Necromunda.

I assume the release for this game will work similarly to blood bowl, we get the initial boxed game, then we gradually get boxes of new gangs and blisters for special units and characters (porabably the same deal with some being FW and some through GW)... I really hope they do cool mats and terrain for this as well, and those bases the models from open day look new as well...
Super pumped

>>54852552
Except you are. Goliaths came with lasguns in the box.

>>54853198
>no new terrain in box
Does that mean no terrain at all or reuse of Shadow War kits?
>everything else
might get it for the minis, fuck the rules

>>54853193
The goliaths are on 32mm, but the escher are on 25mm

>>54851830
>clear ripoff of Mad Max STRONK WOMYN ROAD

and another game company falls to forced diversity

>always knew Necromunda would be released again
>come in here
>people screaming KIKES FUCKING JEW DOUBLE JEW RREEEEEEEE! already

Howling at you lads RN.

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>>54853253
Why do you do this? Go onto the interwebs and post nonsensical inflammatory statements?

>>54853253
Didn't you do this joke earlier in the thread? I'm being kind when I say 'joke'.

>>54853201
Of a different scale thus making the new model out of scale with the older miniatures and proxies being used.

>>54853253
See >>54852979 you reactionary newfag retard.

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>>54853253
Clearly this turkey has never heard of Dark Future

>>54853253

>tfw there are actually people on /tg/ who haven't been suckling on the GW teat since before the original Necromunda was released

Absolutely heretical.

>>54853285
>thus making the new model out of scale with the older miniatures
GW's miniatures have been "out of scale" with the pewter figures of the 90's for the past seventeen fucking years

>>54852872
this. though if it was small stuff like getting some grenades or a pistol I'd usually just add the relevant bit with only a little glue so it can be easily removed in the future.

>>54853259
>Falling for false flagging this hard

>>54853301
DARK FOOTOOOOOR

And yet there will be no novel about hot sweaty sex in the Sump between the Escher leader and a new Juvvie.

Such is life...

>>54853003
>Battlefleet game will be set during the HH.
fuck, i hope not.
or at least if it is can the rules be close enough to the old ones like SWA and necromunda. My hivefleet is itching for more games.

>>54853312
This.
And why would they go back to teeny manlet scale?
Anyone who has complained has probably spent a fortune off eBay for a new gang...
that goes the same for any other GW game with old smaller scaled models.
Just shut the fuck up and buy new models

>>54853340

It is set during the HH, this isn't really new information either.

>>54853338
>His Eschers don't have trophy Juve from each other faction.
>Even Scavvy
especially Scavvy

>>54852814
Been thinking of making a gang of them using some dudes from Heresy Miniatures and Corporate Wars Slicks.

>>54853155
primaris marines aren't a different scale.
if they're the same scale as primaris marines then they're the same scale.as old necromunda minis.

>>54852446
>>54852478
Imperial Fists would serve for one-off matches, since they recruit from the world.

>>54853239
Well, they said "new", so to me it sounds awfully lot like they'll throw some old terrain into it.

>>54853342
it's not even that

Like, fuck, the old plastic orlocks and goliaths were hideously out of scale with the existing (and then current) metals too.

Scale's never been GW's strong point. The only guys who maintained a consistent scale between sculpts were the perry twins and jew goodwin.

>>54853353
damn.
why does it have to be the most boring option.

>>54853312
GW models released a few months apart are out of scale with with each other. All these complaints boil down to
>pick a random model
>notice that nothing aligns in size with it properly
>bitch that the model they pulled out of their ass is the one true arbitrator of what is "in scale" and that literally every other product to come out in the past 30 years is incorrect pls fix
Notice how they never say something like "28mm" or "1:72" or any actual scales? It's always "X model scale" because of the warped thought process noted above.

>>54853380
old terrain is fine, but packing no terrain for a skirmish game would be awful

>>54853357
I think I just vomited a bit. I mean I can understand Enforcers taking out their frustrations on a captured/injured Escher while she curses and screams at them, but Scavvy? I have a GreenTeaNeko comic that could apply to this but blueboard..

>>54853253

>luk momma im twolling EXDEE

>>54851646
Will buy this game all gangs and all bonus shit thay throw at me - hack maybe I even get some ultimate shit edition because Necromunda was way back when the best gaming experiance of my life.

But

The painting on the new minist looks UGLY :(

>>54853380
Hopefully it's just the original Necromunda terrain and not the utter shit that released with SWA.

>>54853360
Use a Heresy flamer guy myself, the rest is what I could scrape up from ebay and the contents of a boxset I picked up back when Specialist Games were still a thing
It might be nice to actually play with them

>>54853431
>yes to cardboard terrain
>fuck plastic terrain
Nice bait

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>>54853465
>Preferring cheaper but still decent terrain to extremely expensive, nearly unusable, and ugly terrain.
>"Hurr Durr bait"

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>>54853357
You. I like you.

>>54853338
We talkin' death by Snu-Snu?

>>54853357
wouldn't escher only go after female juves?

>>54851830
I like this model, but the other one is shit. I hope it's more than 2 per gang. I want to use these guys for Inquisitor Acolytes, so they better upgrade what you can give Acolytes.

>>54853521
Wouldn't that be the pairing of an Escher Heavy and a Juvvie?

>>54853534
You saying Scavvies CAN'T be women? Disgusting. GET OUT.

>>54853534
No, they're not lesbians.

>>54853573
>they're not lesbians

I'm not a fan of punk aesthetic really. So I won't bother with R34.

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>>54853573
>>No, they're not lesbians.

>>54853578
They look down on men but that doesn't mean they won't forcefully use men as sex slaves/toys?

>>54853578
>>54853592
They're not and your fetish doesn't make it so.

>>54853578
I'd give up a testicle to fuck an Escher.

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>>54853611
>They're not and your fetish doesn't make it so.

>>54853615
Don't have to give up anything, just knock them out and drag them back to your camp as captives.

it's not like underhive gangs give a fuck

>>54853611
Dykes against fags. Necromunda is going to be the most progressive game on the market.

Man I'm a bit sad it's not Squats.

>>54853698
Lesbian Squats versus Roidhead Squats

>>54851830
>>54851891
UNF.
Nice women sculpts, finally people can stop shitposting that GW can sculpt women for shit.

>>54853921
GW can sculpt female bodies just fine.... just not faces...

>>54851830
THICC

What's this game even about?

>>54853342

>And why would they go back to teeny manlet scale?

What even is this opinion. It's a question of scale, GW was always nominally 28mm "Heroic" scale.

Why do they have to get bigger when they already were 28mm beefy men? Why is that an instant improvement to you?

Enjoy your big boy Sigmarines and Primarines I guess.

>>54853983

Gang warfare in the semi-collapsed lower levels of Hive Primus on Necromunda. The gangs represent the various warring Lower Houses.

>>54851719
https://www.gamereactor.eu/amp/previews/507423/Necromunda
You're shit out of luck anon

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>>54853155
>Primaris scale
>On 25mm bases
This is lying bait, don't listen to this shit.

>>54854024
Yeah ok but how does it play?

>>54853926
Can't*

Well Celestine and one of her Geminae were fine. Alarielle was pretty good as well.

>>54854042
Skirmish style warfare where,models move and act separately and grow over time by accumulating experience and buying new equipment, with a bit of territory management thrown in to earn you income.

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>>54852081

>>54854042

The "current" edition of the rules is based on 40k second edition, with extra rules for ammo and falling and stuff, so it's mildly dated but it works, especially with a lot of terrain.

>>54854028
What are the odds they won't totally fuck it up like Mordheim?

>>54851719
Battlefkeet is fine, Deathwing is (finally) taking shape, the last Chaplain update and the upcoming Enhanced edition (free if you have the game) is bound to add loads of content, and Mordheim is meh. That's not a bad track record for such a small editing company, especially when you look at the trainwreck that is Dow3.

>>54854061

It's the truth mate, it's literally what they're going to do with a few nice new kits. Enjoy your consumer experience for the next few months before you move on to whatever GW reboots next.

>>54854093
this, even though blood bowl was doing great they encouraged their own stores to no longer promote the game in any way inside the stores, killing or migrating a lot of the community away.

>>54854060
So Infinity + Path to Glory?

>>54854067
I don't know about that, I started 40k in 4th.

>>54854143
That's weird, my shop has regular Bloodbowl tournaments, the big cardboard orks is still there, and yhe owner is the French Rep of store managers, so he'd know if that wasn't allowed.


Or were you talking about years ago?

>>54854061
>>54852081

He has a legit concern. Their ability to write rules is still shit. The only reason people liked shadow war was because they literally cut and paste it from a good ruleset.

There is also solid fan mod rule set. This could fracture that community.

It will be interesting to see, but I say wait until we have the final product before you get your hopes up.

>>54854185
Im talking about current edition, GW stores were told en masse about this...

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>>54851646
WE

>>54852081
>I'm guessing the Judge Dredd vibe will be going completely out the window.

To be fair, GW is being sued for basically just that. They're probably going to be distancing themselves a ton from various other IP's.

>>54854201
We had a big cardboard stand and stuff set up for it that just dissapeared one day. Now the only Bloodbowl promotion is the game box set on a low shelf behind the cash register.

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>>54854143

Yeah, the "real" Blood Bowl community kind of shrugged when GW came back recently. Just another source of miniatures among many third party Fantasy Football teams.

Official NAF tournaments still use the community rulebook written around the time GW ditched Specialist Games ~2005, and not the 'modern' rules which are basically exactly the same except badly proofread and split into supplement books.
Quite impressive that BB is/was still one of the biggest tournament scenes a decade after they abandoned it, testament to Jervis Johnson's ability.

>>54854201
Any proofs?
The community page still talks about it regularly and such.

>>54854217
wow, exactly the same for my local GW, cardboard stand, promotional giveaways, small grassroots tournament; Now, a few boxes near register... And after their take on SW:A (which I thankfully did not invest in), i am uneasy on how they will handle this. Might grab a gang that interests me (which I can use for Shadowrun if my group ever plays it)

>>54854201
>>54854143

I really doubt that.

I could get behind them say, focus on standard AOS and 40K releases. Blood Bowl is just a spring board to those. I could also buy, this is selling okay, but not super well lets not lets not focus on this.

Saying, this shit is selling like hotcakes no one market it is absurd. No one is that dumb, not even GW.

>>54851902
>>54851891
Wonder why they only chose to show off two models for each.

>>54854203
>>54852081

Judge Dredd arbities is core to this experience. Lets hope not.

>>54854263
I have 3 local GWs in my region, I asked all three managers about BloodBowl after one of them told me that they were encouraged from "higher-ups" to no longer promote the game with any tournaments or shelf space and to prioritize 40K and AoS. Of course, one GW still gives a small amount of space to BB (one shelf)

>>54854203
>To be fair, GW is being sued for basically just that

By some random swamp dweller. They're not changing shit because of that.

>>54851719

all games good anon, mainly comapred to the shitstein that is DoW3

and for an extent, space hulk

>>54853611
KYS

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>>54851646
Does this mean we're all... NecroPosting?

>>54854293
Yea see I can buy that though. BB is still a specialist game and they want to make money on their other stuff.

The thing with all the specialist games outside maybe BFG is that they should be used as funnels into the main two. A way to play that enhances your cash cow. This is just good business sense. Standard players are going to buy 40k, vets will spend money on these other ones. Any other way and they have the too many products problem. Lots of production costs for little financial gain.

That was the issue they failed to realize when they dropped the specialist games in the first place. They were never going to compete with the two main games. What they did was build the lore and fanbase to keep them coming back in. They will never make as much money, but the value they have in bringing people into the store and back to the universe is immeasurable. It directly contributes to why despite GW fucking up for years people still want a 40k or WFB universe to succeed.

>>54854334
>By some random swamp dweller.

A games store/business owner who happens to live in Florida...

>They're not changing shit because of that.

If the US government says they are, they sure as shit will. (In the US at least.)

While it is doubtful the case will be successful for the guy, if it does succeed (the US has strict laws about it) GW could be fucked. (In the US at least.)

>>54852408
DO NOT WORRY BROTHER
do you really believe they could do necromunda without bringing out one of it's best factions
they will redeem themselves

>>54854386
Least GW could do is encourage a bit more tournament play...

>>54854411
>A games store/business owner who happens to live in Florida...

Right, some random swamp dweller. If 2000AD were trying to sue them it might be a different story, but some random third party attempting to sue one company for copying another is nonsensical.

>>54854171
If you can find a copy of Shadow War Armageddon it was basically that. No idea about this re-release.

>>54854442
Probably, but they are still fucking GW what do you expect.

>>54853921
it's not a shit post
up until this point it was true and it was mostly faces.
and it's more of a problem with faces.
They can do retarded potato heads which work for military but if you've seen Karl Franze, Celestine et all, etc you know they cannot do faces

>>54854202
Come on, it's a fucking ganger!

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>>54854468
>Florida Man wins
>he now has rights to all IP based off Tolkien's work, as he demanded it be given to him in trust as part of his lawsuit
>New Line Cinema's face when

but we already have necromunda game

its called shadow war armaggedon...

I really want this

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>>54854411

>a games store/buisness owner who lives in florida

who's suing on behalf of companies and IP he has literally no stake in, thats getting thrown out of court immediately.

and if you actually read the fucking suit you'd know the dudes completely insane, he directly refers to europe as a "socialist powerhouse" accuses GW of price fixing AND demands not only 10 million dollars to him personally but full rights to the ownership of EVERY IP THAT GW OWNS, as well as a 50 million dollar public trust to be managed by him to regulate the IP's.

then theirs the 50,000% markup meme, the fact that he thinks that GW makes its plastic in china when they manufacture it all in the UK, some bullshit about capitalism being the way and the destruction of GW's almost monopoly that he then treads all over by saying that they should have to function on state set prices and you'd realise if you read the suit that the case will never even see a court because the plaintiff is a frothing at the mouth lunatic.

>>54854552
>Space Marines and Xenoshitters
>Necromunda

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>>54852081
>I'm guessing the Judge Dredd vibe will be going completely out the window.
I fear this greatly
also fatty gang when?

>>54854552
Problem with shadow war is they fucking screwed up the campaign system. That was half of what made the game so great.

>>54854579
>then theirs the 50,000% markup meme, the fact that he thinks that GW makes its plastic in china
Also he doesn't consider how much metal moulds cost.

>>54854600
When Warlord gets off its ass and makes a new Judge Dredd game.

>>54854411

It's debatable as to which is a more realistic fantasy setting - 40k, or the one where Sifu Dave wins his lawsuit.

>>54854633
>Problem with shadow war is they fucking screwed up the campaign system. That was half of what made the game so great.
this
>only one advance for team per fight
>no real underdog compensation.
>>54854650
they aren't doing that
I emailed them about the Rogue trooper stuff they got from mongoose too.
I don't see it for a while
also they faces always suck which makes sense for Joe..... just not everyone else

>>54854202
Calm your autism mate this shit is golden.
also
>gang warfare
need i say more

>>54854642
Or transports, or the cost of maintaining a store chain, or marketing, or design costs, or ...

>>54853615
I'd give up both to be an Escher

>>54854633
>they fucking screwed up the campaign system
I believe most of that was by design. Ignoring the fact that all the teams are straight from the main game, shadow war's a lot easier to introduce people to and have pickup games with.

I prefer necromunda, but I can see why they did shadow war the way they did.

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>>54854579
> full rights to the ownership of EVERY IP THAT GW OWNS, as well as a 50 million dollar public trust to be managed by him to regulate the IP's.

Actually he requests that GW's claim to IP's be nullified, not transferred to himself.

2,500,000 to the plaintiff for damage to his investments/business. Which is pretty insane but could be lowered in court.

$10,000,000 to the plaintiff for damage caused by various acts of fraud and such. Which would also likely be lowered in court.


The 50,000,000 would be set in a trust controlled by him with the intent to pay back damages to the proper IP holders and to fulfill GW's failure to meet their return policy and such.

>>54851902
>Revolver shotgun
>mohawk axe
The future is here, and it is awesome

>>54852316
There were 2 variations. One was meant to be the NPC faction that kicked people's shit in (Arbites) and the other was playable through an expansion (Enforcers).

>>54852213
>plasma
... I wasn't aware Van Saars were mostly female.

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>>54853253
Quit acting like a retard

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>>54854867
>musclegirls with combat bras and pumps
>big guy for you wasteland warriors with the biggest magnum ever
>all in multipart plastic, likely with as many spare arms as the GSC dudes
I wonder how many of each role we'll get. Leader, two heavies, five gangers, two juves?

This is the best timeline.

>>54854090
Sory mister but more content means shit if core gameplay if fucked up.
It runs like legless guted pig, bolter rounds do fukin shit there is no fukin customization.
They made aweome ships thouh, and thats it.

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I hope they don't fuck up the sculpts.

>>54853195
I enjoyed using the Shadow War rules as a starting point and not limiting myself to GW's half-assed scenario list. Digging into other skirmish games like Frostgrave and Mordheim for scenarios and adapting them really helps the principle appeal of SWA last longer.

>>54853465
>>54853431
>>54853380
>limiting yourself to the shit terrain that comes in the box
>not making your own terrain as you need it
Fucking plebs.

>>54855088
lol wut?

>>54854411
>A games store/business owner who happens to live in Florida...
An utterly insane swamp dweller who's arguements make no legal sense, who's demand are batshit insane and who has tenuous legal standing at best.

>>54854867
>Revolver shotgun

I think it's a grenade launcher.

>>54854814

>still pretending that the lawsuit won't be thrown out with GW awarded full costs

You are Sifu Dave, and I claim my £5.

>>54854944
upvote :)

>>54855141
you sure showed him

>>54854669

They took over the complete 2000 AD license last jan. Everything has been silent for a while so it is likely they are redesigning the entire game and mini line. I had heard that the rule set of the last mini game was pretty great, but I never played it. I would throw down some cash for it if the models looks good.

I kind of wish they did a Dredd movie version of the game. A lot of the comic book character designs are really dated. The more modern take was pretty fucking awesome. Still I would take either or though.

You are right about their faces, but they are still better than GW. (remember Gabriel Angelos lol)

>>54854814
What he requests doesn't matter, because his case is a complete joke.
A good portion of the copyright stuff is blatantly false, such as the whole space marine issue. You can't claim the term space marine, GW tried, and the official term is Adeptus Astartes, for this very reason.
The other half of it relies upon reducing IPs to their bare bones and claiming their similar, which you can do for most anything (GoT violates LotR copyright because both are about humans on a continent vaugely based off a real life one fighting inhuman enemies led by a evil lord) and that still doesn't matter because "No civil action shall be maintained under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within three years after the claim accrued," and it's been 30 years.

And the copyright is the ONLY thing that even has any bit of a chance, the atuff about GW rigging the market, running a mafia and being supported by cultists in the socialist powerhouse of europe is non-sensical drivel that's just a result of the guy being upset GW won't supply him anymore since he sold recasts.

The guy is fucked, anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot
t. Lawyer

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>>54855235
>(remember Gabriel Angelos lol)
how could i forget.

Why i said i think they're going to let it sit for a bit is i was talking to the dude who did the Rogue trooper stuff and by last year the warlord casts still hadn't shipped.
with operation sea lion i think they're going to remained burdened for a while

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What happened to the Forge World painters?

All the old stuff like Krieg/tanks look amazing, and all the new stuff look really cartoony/awful.

>>54855425
Someone post Bard's kids.

>>54855425
>What happened to the Forge World painters?
No longer just a bunch of old historical model fogeys. Which is a shame, because although plain that style of painting is real good at showcasing the figure itself rather than obscuring the details.

This feathered highlighting style looks horrible when run through all the post processing GW does to their studio images.

>>54855320
Bro I misread you post. Now I understand, I agree. I am guessing we will see it maybe some time next summer or maybe later. I know they are working on expansions to Konflict 47 so it might be a bit.

Hopefully Karl Urban has launched his TV series by then. That might change everything.

>>54851830

Meh. The original fuckold Escher did it better.
Nothing against facemasks but goliath and Escher are possibly the two factions who are the least suited for it aesthetic wise.

>>54855526
I'd expect a boatload of head options, man

>>54855543
It's more than the head though.

>>54855517
>Hopefully Karl Urban has launched his TV series by then. That might change everything.
I hope so, I hope so.
I don't expect it to be good but at least it kicks up some interest. I'm worried it might end up like the resent shadow issue.
>morally objective hero written by a writer who's a relativist without nuance.
The image books (meg city 1) pretty much confirmed that most writers don't have the chops for it any more

>>54855573
Oh, fair enough. The goliaths are definitely a bit of a departure from the classic look. Escher are pretty on point, though.

Probably because jes is still around to do the concept work for them.

>>54854270

Probably because they knew these photos will end up on the internet and they want to slowly reveal all the gangs and models on the warhammer site so they can control and build hype.

>>54855597
Funny , I habe the exact opposite feeling. I am fine with the Goliath, but prefer the more feminine look of the original Escher. Poses and proportions feel a bit off balance as well and the face is mediocre.
But hey I am still happy they do something with the Franchise

>>54855018
It runs fine now, bolters are good if you use them well and customisation is said to be coming for the Enhanced edition.
I'm happy with the game right now, but I won't spit on more content.

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>>54854888

Not fully true, it's semantics but they were called actual Arbites in 1st ed, and used the exact same miniatures as the Arbites that we're usable in 40k, like the metals in >>54852320


In 2nd ed, Underhive, they were downgraded to "Enforcers", the local copy of the galactic Arbites, and got some miniatures.

>>54855268
>Lawyer
Weheyyyy my man. Glad to see I'm not thr only one lost in the middle of all these science guys.

>>54855707
Didn't they have a different structure for recruitment and equipment as well?

>>54855517
>>54855580
Don't want to bash your hopes boys, but apparently the serie is about no name Judges, or at the very least, NOT Dredd. Urban hasn't even been confirmed yet afaik. But I really want him and Anderson back, they were perfect. One can only hope they'll get the serie as well as the movie got the setting.

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>>54855580
I honestly don't see how they could do a good TV series of Dredd unless it's like an HBO series with a high budget. Otherwise it's going to be pretty awful.

Also, does anyone have any sweet tutorials for decent Necromunda terrain? Going to have to put a shit ton of it together.

>>54855755
>>54855775
>HBO
I hope they remember judges are virgins by law and it spares us the romantic 'drama'

>>54855802
Doubt it. They would probably do the whole 'forbidden love' trope.

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>>54855802
It wouldn't have to be judges fucking for HBO to get its skin fix.

>>54855755
I wouldn't even mind if they just had them as supporting characters.

Better than no series at all.

>>54855425
They need to cater to wargamers, not figure painters.

>>54855425
Half of them retired/left, the other half got poached by nuGW to showcase their new big plastics

>>54853155
Any post that ends with "fuck you GW" is valid.

>>54855853
What do you mean by this?

>>54855873
Going by that, all of the decent ones retired then.

Have you seen GW's reveals lately? They can't paint worth shit anymore.

>>54855853

That doesn't excuse bad scuplts and paint jobs. GW has been claiming for years that they are a modelling company.

Fucking infinity is able to do it. Even if you don't like their styles, their shit is top fucking notch. They don't even having fucking our great lord Duncan working for them either.

>>54855900
They can't paint at display level because wargamers don't have the skills to paint like that. They need to paint at tabletop level max. so the average Joe think he can achieve what he can see in the pics.

>>54855755
>is about no name Judges
I prefer that honestly because Joe is a hard character to capture and giving him a voice like in the movies seems a bit weird to me
I mean we don't have heresy's edgy "I'm going to kill him because fuck dah law i want justice.", Or Anderson which is a bit annoying. Missing Volt or Mcgruger is a let down but hey

>>54855802
>it spares us the romantic 'drama'
I mean, DeMarco, Giant Sr, one of Volt's opposition during the election.
Then again most of that was 90s era Judge dredd.
>>54855850
If they're going to go down that route i hope they go for a "pit" series.
Corruption, disgraced cadets,etc.
seriously pre dredd pit would be what they need.

>>54855926
Duncan is mediocre.

And Infinity has the great Giraldez as a head painter, which has a particular super aesthetic style.

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My favorite tabletop game of all time and they are just fucking it up on first look.

Why is every asshole in the world who writes copy so driven to be original and make something different? When are these people going to get over their retarded bullshit and just build expansions onto a well laid foundation.

>>54856004
???
Mate we haven't even seen the rules
Of course, its FW so expects mistakes and balance being non-existent.

>>54856036
>FW
where did this meme come from, these models are confirmed to be mutli part plastic and since when did FW MPP?

>>54851830

Seems like they had the B-team that did the Blood Bowl miniatures work on these. Miniatures look like absolute garbage.

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Maybe GW will get their head out of their ass and let people run Kill Teams using the hive as a battleground setting where all the gangs live. I'll take Gangs Vs. Kill Teams any day but most 40K players would shit themselves if they lost a game to a bunch of unarmored gangers.

>>54856094
I've done a few Shadow War games using a modern kill team against someone's old Necromunda gangs. Most of the games were pretty even. Until I started playing Nids.
Those are pretty overpowered for just about anything in SWA aside from Harlequins.

>>54856094
from the 40k facebook

The new rules will be loosely based on 8th edition Warhammer 40,000 as the previous edition was based on 2nd. There will be a few tweaks and changes, and will generally go into more detail (as is befitting of a skirmish-level game like this), the result being a game considerably different to the version of Necromunda you might have played previously.Trust us, though.... it's a great system and captures fighting in the Underhives perfectly.

>>54856145
How is Shadow War in general?

>>54856094
Scion or Scouts cleaning up the streets, Genestealer Cultists trying to round up Juvies, or Alpha Legion trying to extract an asset would be dank

>>54856167
Fun, but very, very limited by GW's support. The SWA book only has a small handfull of scenarios to work with, so I've found it better to dig into other skirmish games for scenarios to play, just to make things interesting. It's fun adapting something from a completely unrelated game like Frostgrave or Mordheim to work with SWA.

I will say, your game area MUST have a LOT of terrain. You don't ever want long distances for line of sight.
So lots of buildings and other debris are required to allow you to move around without constantly being pinned.

I did do a few games set outside in a more jungle environment. Using lots and lots and lots of trees, rocks and bushes.
The Hide rules are great for getting through a map like that.

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>>54856036
Looking at those garbage minis and the specter of primus marines we call all see that GW is gearing up to screw over every veteran gamer existence.

Why is GW playing the scale gamble? Didn't they fucking learn from inquisitor? Of course not.

Necromunda is one of the most creative and stalwart fan bases ever produced by a GW game. 16 years of unsupported community perseverance and GW is totally ready to shit on the work of their most creative conversion community by change scales on them.

These people are losers. GW needs to get the fuck out of Nottingham and out of Britain. The whole fucking company is a stagnating dinosaur and could be run a thousand times better by Swedes or Koreans.

>>54856149
This is the worst news I have gotten from GW in 16 years. Its even more upsetting than the death of the old world.

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>>54856167
Shadow War is a fun game, but definitely unbalanced.

The campaign system was half-assed.
The game is riddled with grammar mistakes, rule mistakes, and lack of clarity.
Certain factions like Harlequins and Tyranids are just outright broken. Tyranids just refuse to die. Harlequins take all of the rules included in the game meant to balance the factions and throw them out the window. (On top of already having overpowered stats/abilities.)

Play a game while banning Tyranids and Harlies and you'll generally have a good time. Play with them and it's a one-sided shit show.

>>54856351
Add in an end-game army of chaos marines, between cheap disposable cultists, twice as many marines as seen anywhere else and the potential for their leader to be twice as good as any equivalents by killing shit they're the best of non-nids/harlies

>>54856094
Because that's a retarded idea. Logically the Gangs would get fucked every match. There only way they could spend a chance is if their stats were scaled up to match Space Marines and the like. Which makes no sense lore-wise.

>>54856398
>There only way they could spend a chance is if their stats were scaled up to match Space Marines and the like.
not.. really? they'd basically just be guard with a couple wargear tweaks

>>54856351
As a primarily Nids player, I can confirm that they are indeed broken. But I do have fun playing 4-player games where the other three try to gang up on me. For a little while. Until one of them decides to take some opportunistic pot-shots at one of their "allies."

But really, GW's rules should be taken as a starting point, not an end point. Work it out with your fellow players how to do things and you can house rule it into something worthwhile.

>>54855954

Duncan is painting to teach tards who know zero how to paint. He also doesn't use an airbrush because basic painter noobs wouldn't have one. He is a golden god.

Angel is fucking absurdly talented as well. Infinity models are now just plain better. GW does have modular plastic kits though which is very nice.

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>>54856167
As a product it is a total joke. But it gives you roster lists for every faction in 2nd edition rules. It essentially allows you to play Necromunda with 40K. Which in the end gives you a lot of freedom, but unfortunately the lists and options are totally monotone. They came so close but still missed the mark by a mile. The campaign system is about as stupid as most 40K players and would suit someone who can't make any decisions perfectly.

What needs to happen is someone just needs to convert all the faction codex's into 2nd Ed rules and let people use the whole faction in Shadow War. If you wanted ballance you could just build it as a tech tree. And let people slowly get access to more troop types.

But alas the worst part of GW is its writers. Who many does it actually employ? 2-3?

Whatever, 40K has always sucked after 2nd edition. Rick Priestly is a GOD.

>>54856426
They would effectively all be cultists, actually. So complete shit.

>>54856398
Don't be stupid, that's like saying imperial guard should never be able to kill a space marine on tabletop.

Like all games the playable characters can be balanced amongst each other.

>>54856491
>If you wanted ballance you could just build it as a tech tree. And let people slowly get access to more troop types.
This is a really good idea.
It's infuriating how limited the rosters are.

>>54856484
Well, honestly I have never seen a Duncan paintjob at 100% of his painting power, so I can't really rate him.

>>54856500
Underhivers can be far more badass than some cultist/

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>>54856398
Gangs have always been able to hold their own against everything in 40K. They got the equipment options and the tactics to fight anything that comes into the underhive. Anyone that says otherwise is faggot Space Marine.

>>54856500
Juves, sure. But full gangers are IG/genecult level.

Thing is, running a gang in shadow war would be shallow as fuck. I'd rather just play proper necromunda.