Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

>"A small number of glory seekers look to enter the deadly games in the Halls of the Living, a subterranean city designed specifically for living inhabitants, where cruel reality shows and competitions are arranged as entertainment and broadcast through the Pact Worlds"
What kind of competitions would they have /pgg/?

>>54839831
Death Race, the Wheel of the Worst and some sort of maze running.

Player, ysoki operative with the ghost specialization

Now that the dust has settled...
Operative or Soldier for the best damn sharpshooter alive?

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>>54839831
>cruel reality shows

>>54839955
Lt. Squeakers will be a good addition to the team

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Good afternoon everyone. Loreanon here, the guy who wrote stuff for the Trees and the Dragons. I finally woke up after a restless sleep, and am here. I'm not quite in the right frame of mind to make up more nonesense like I said I would, however I can answer any question you guys have about the current lore stuff involving the trees, dragons, wastelands, and the other stuff. Except the whale people, Someone else made that stuff, and while its cool I fear I might not be able to talk much about them since I haven't given them much thought

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>>54840008
>>54839955
Speaking of Ysokai...

>>54839642
First game tomorrow, as a player. Seeing as I don't yet know the full party composition, I'm preparing three characters to choose from once we're at the table.

1: Android Ghost Operative. Sneak around, pistol people, maybe liberate some Android bros.
2: Human Merc Soldier. Kick in doors and make stuff ded with shooty.
3: Human/Android Mechanic, archetpe undecided. I like the concept of the Drone, but it's like carrying around another player with terrible stats; kinda bad in practise. Exocortex makes your character better in fights and lets you apply certain drone mods (like flight systems) directly on yourself, and the archetype only adds wireless hacking on top of that which is meh.

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>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>Techno-Duels as part of the Application process
>Dragon CEOs
>Dragons are now smaller, more nimble and exponentially more fuckable

>>54839337
Alteration: Devolution or Lycanthropy
Conjuration: Rifts opening allowing fiends, star-spawn, etc.
Creation: Sphere of Annihilation
Dark: Massive area of 'Hungry Darkness' except instead of Con damage, is Con burn.
Death: Undead plague
Destruction: spontaneous explosions
Divination: Entire area becomes a Dead Magic zone
Enhancement: Objects spontaneously animate and become hostile to other non-animated objects.
Fate: Entire area becomes a Wild Magic zone
Illusion: Deadly Illusions spontaneously form
Life: Natural and Magical Healing stop working
Light: Radiation sickness
Mind: People are plagued with suicidal thoughts
Nature: spontaneous Earthquakes, Tsunami, Rapid Forest/Jungle Growth, and Volcanoes.
Protection: All structures (buildings, walls, etc) crumble and erode.
Telekinesis: People are randomly bludgeoned or thrown in a random direction.
Time: People are randomly ejected from time, only to reappear with + or - 1d3 age categories.
War: People are plagued with homicidal thoughts
Weather: Weather severity 7 in multiple weather categories (changing every couple hours or days).

>>54840164
Dragons? Or Dragonkin? Because people fucking Dragonkin was already a thing on Triaxus.

>>54839642
>If playing, what kind of character do you plan to start?
Power Armour halfling.

>>54840236
Says Dragonkin, not Dragons. You're right.

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>>54839642
>If playing, what kind of character do you plan to start?

I really, really, really want to play a lightly armored Soldier (Ace Pilot) built around being a slippery, quick speedster that stings like a motherfucker.

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Player, drow technomancer.

>>54839642
I'm gonna be an ace pilot Shirrens who gets high off of the rush of flying at high speeds while listening to eurobeat

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>Weapon Specialization
>Choose one Weapon Group (Small Arms, Longarms, Melee Weapons, etc.) You gain specialization in that weapon type, which means you add your CHARACTER LEVEL to weapon damage while using that weapon type

>>54840291
I hope that's a man, I really do.

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I don't visit this general often so I may have missed it. Has the second part of the PoW errata been released yet? How about that thing, manticore spirit or something... do we have a playtest doc for that yet?

In exchange, have some Hell's Burgers.

>>54840382
Feels good, don't it?

>>54840382
I bet there's going to be hardness everywhere when they release the bestiary.

>>54840419
I too will be erect.

>>54839642
I'm not planning to GM it until "Gundams" are added to the game, so I guess it depends on whether I join a game before whenever that happens. When I do, I'll create my own adventures.

Still no Starfinder core book to read through?

>>54840451
Releases on Thursday, I believe. Subscribers have PDFs, but none scrubbed and uploaded yet, to the best of my knowledge.

has intrigue game been announced yet?

>>54840477
>>54840451
A leak has been released a while ago.

>>54840440
>>54840419
>>54840404
Enhanced Resistance is also a feat that gives you DR or Energy Resistance equal to your character level!

>>54840451
A link to the full leak has been posted in almost every thread.

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>>54840477
>He doesn't have the secret scrubbed PDF

>>54840493
because flat images are much safer
pdf has more trickery to it

>>54840493
>>54840508
I'll start combing the previous thread, but I figured I'd check because it's not in the pastebin.

>>54840485
I'm pretty sure picks are midnight on the GM's timezone, to maximize the pain.

>I just want to see the new pathfinder player companion for my monthly dose
>all anybody cares about is Starfinder and its various fuckups

o-okay

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So people Have been discussing the Eternal Trees, and their association with the Spheres of Power. While magically those are what the Trees are associated with, at the same time you need to remember that the trees are also what hold together the world, and as such are associated with the metaphysical underpinnings of reality, and so each tree is associated with both a Sphere of Magic, and an aspect of reality. Further, to maintain their balance and to ensure no singular tree becomes too influential on reality, each tree has an associated "opposite" that balances it in terms of which concept they control.

Now, I came up with this list last night on the Trees, and which aspect of reality is associated with which tree, and what their opposite is. I'm currently working also on a map of the trees, but am having some trouble deciding how to organize their placement, At frst I was thinking of placing themin one half, then placing their opposite onthe other side of the planet, but that's just left many of the trees to be within the ocean.

>Light and Dark
>Alteration (Body) and Mind
>Life and Death
>Protection (Peace) and War (Conflict)
>Time and Warp (Space)
>Creation and Destruction (Entropy)
>Enhancement (Within) and Conjuration (Without)
>Divination (Knowledge) and Illusion (Emotion)
>Nature (Growth) and Weather (Disturbance)
>Telekinesis (Action) and Fate (Consequence)

Now, I"m not 100% sold on this list yet, so if anyone has any beter ideas for the list, I'd like to hear them

>>54840232
Yeah, this makes sense, and I can definitely see each tree doing this as a sort of Defensive Mechanism to protect itself while healing after being heavily damaged. Though I also like >>54840363 idea for the Mind tree

>>54840501
So they just run parallel. Fantastic.

>>54840550
>tfw he's holding it off for 3 hours, to maximize the pain

>>54840566
Which is this?
>>54840527
Yeah, we haven't really updated it.

>>54840569
Not everyone's going to have both feats!

Is there like a "Monster manual" for starfinder yet?

>>54840600
Its basically universal feat tax unless there is some sort of bullshit class prereq.

>>54840604
Comes in October

>>54840604
Alien Archive, releases at the same time as the core book, I'm pretty sure.

You can also download a free PDF of "First Contact," which is sort of a mini-bestiary.

>>54840527
>>54840451
Found it: http://zalil.su/3875211
For others looking but not willing to go through the previous for the Starfinder Core book.

>>54840621
Weapon Specialization is 3rd level, Enhanced Resistance is 4th.

Furthermore, Enhanced Resistance is not a universal DR, you have to pick what energy type it's for. Someone can have Enhanced Resistance (Kinetic) or Enhanced Resistance (Fire) for example.

>>54840594
the elemental master handbook or whatever it's called. It's apparently pretty shitty, but it's still fun to have imagedumps of all the books as they come out

>>54840702
Yeah, the thread's been deep in SF. My condolences.

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>>54840643
you wish

>>54840621
Martials get weapon specialization for free as part of standard progression so they acknowledged the feat tax issue. Enhanced resistance doesn't seem to be as good as it would be in Pathfinder; the only requirement is BAB 4 but the benefit isn't as large as you'd expect. There're more big single attacks with how iteratives have been stripped down, damage type variety will be a lot bigger and you can only pick one sort to defend against when you take the feat, and rocket tag isn't going to be as much of a thing with the number changes which makes other forms of defense better than they traditionally are.

If a character goes to 20 they'll definitely pick up Enhanced Resistance at some point, but it's way easier to justify taking weak flavour feats under the new system.

>>54840645
yeah thats not shady as fuck

>>54840568
>>>54840363 →
My list was merely meant to be examples of different negative effects for each tree, according to their sphere. I also think that the amnesia/nullthought zone is better.

>>54840745
God damn it, I would have sworn Amazon listed it as available Aug. 17.

>>54840645
Fuck that.

>>54840758
Every class gets specialization for the proficiencies they grant. So everyone gets specialization for basic melee weapons and small arms at level 3.

>>54840816
>>54840775
You can buy the book, go through the threads collecting all the leaked images yourself, or enjoy your Russian spyware.

>>54840775
>>54840816
Hey, it's what was in the thread and my computer hasn't caught fire and exploded, so it'll do until somebody gets their act together and puts up a better one.

>>54840775
>>54840816
Idiots. If you're so scared, virustotal the pdf upon downloading. It's clean.

>>54839993
Mock some builds and it becomes quite clear. Assuming best available gear of equal character level, with 18 starting Dex, 2 ability increases, and Weapon Focus at 1st level. The level 10 builds assume Weapon Specialisation in the used weapon. These are regular attacks, you can extrapolate with AB penalties and extra attacks for Full Attacks if you wish.

A lvl1 Operative with a Tactical Semi-Auto Pistol will attack with +5/1d6+1d4, if using Trick Attack which also applies a -2 AC to the enemy for flatfooted. 5 average damage, 10 maximum. With Second Skin; EAC 15, KAC 16.
A lvl 1 Soldier with either a Hunting Rifle or Azimuth Laser Rifle (both have the same damage but of different type) will attack with +6/1d8. 4 average damage, 8 maximum. Heavy armor applies a major Dex penalty though, with Golemforged permitting 0 dex bonus and Ceremonial Plate only permitting +2; this hinders your AB and AC, making them +13 EAC and +15 KAC or 14 EAC and 17 KAC respectively.

A lvl 10 Operative with an Elite Semi-Auto Pistol will attack with +13/3d6+5d8+5 with Trick Attack which also applies a -2 AC to the enemy for flatfooted. 28 average damage, 63 maximum. With white carbon skin, 27 EAC and 29 KAC.
A lvl 10 Soldier with a Combat Rifle will attack with +16/3d8+15, using Heavy Fire, but you can augment either your damage by an additional 2 with a Projectile weapon and Bullet Barrage, or your AB by 1 with a Laser weapon and the Laser Accuracy. 29 average Projectile damage, 41 maximum. With specialist Defiance series heavy armor, 27 EAC and 30 KAC; again a max Dex of only +2 caps AB and AC contributions. A Spider Harness Power Armor does give a +5 max Dex bonus, but slightly lower actual armor.

Generally, it seems you're better off with Operative, at the risk of relying on Stealth checks. Heavy armor Soldiers are better suited for melee, with enough Dex to cap the Dex bonus of your armor while using Strength as your attack attribute.

>>54839642
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lk1d?Free-Starfinder-Character-Sheets-Download

They dropped the actual Starfinder sheets yesterday if someone wants to add them to the repository.

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Is it finally safe to start a campaign at level 3?

>>54840285
Operative does those things better. And you get to be the skill monkey.

>>54841108
start it at lvl 2
take risks

>>54841108
Fuck, meant level 1

Did the first Starfinder AP leak yet?

Tell me about your character, /pgg/? Pathfinder or Starfinder both are good.

My crush never replied to me.

>>54841211
>>54841207
No.

What will be the Starfinder Tuvarkz meme? Nodachis aren't in the game after all.

>>54841263
What? That fiend! Who is this crush that refuses to requite your love?

>>54841263
That's because I didn't get your message! Send it again!

>>54841293
Devastation Blade.

I even linked them this thread so they could see it but no, nothing.

>>54841293
The Dueling Sword, probably.

>>54841263
aaaaaaaa i want an unrequited love

>>54841036
Wait, I fucked up. Heavy Weapons are a thing.

Level 1 Soldier should be +6/1d10 with Reaction cannon.
Level 10 Soldier should be +16/2d12+15 with Stellar Cannon and Heavy Fire.

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>that feeling when I'm making picks

>>54840566
>A new paizo system just came out and you're expecting people to drop discussing it for more pathfinder, which has always been around

>>54841365
Does it feel that good, Zon-Kuthon?

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TR-8R confirmed.

>>54841376
>new content comes out, both brand new and for something already existing
>wow what a fag hoping for at least the token acknowledgement of the addition to the old thing

>>54840799
I'm pretty sure they're releasing the opposition book you actually need to play the game months after the core book comes out entirely because 3.0 did that. Same reason they're still putting rules for making characters before anything that tells you how the game works, what the decisions you're making mean, or even what characters are appropriate for the game.

They're so far up their own assholes and unable to have an original thought they're intentionally reproducing the fuckups of past games.

>>54841439
I'm just pointing out that expecting everyone to drop the shiny new toys to talk about the ones they've had forever is a bit silly. Give it some time.

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>>54841397
It really doesn't

>>54841233
She's a 5' plumekith aasimar ex-merc punchgirl! She's joined the party as a favor to a friend who couldn't continue on the journey. She doesn't have a formal education, so she's missing a lot of academic knowledge, but she does know a bunch of languages, so she's helpful as a translator.

The "oh you might die in one hit" problem isn't really solved by being level 3. Let's take the most bog standard Orc with a great axe. He's built with the NPC array so he has 18 Str after racial.

He does 1d12+9 damage. Now let's say he crits. That's 3d12+27 damage or average of 42.5 damage on average.

At level 3 a character who is a D8 class with 14 con has 23HP and dies at 37 total damage. Even if he payed his FCB he still on average goes from full HP to perma death in one crit. A D10 character will barely live at a -12 if he spent his FCB. The only real person who is realistically gonna be alive is a raging barbarian at somewhere around -2 HP. Then he stops raging and drops to -8.

So really being level 3 does not save you from a stray crit. Especially for d8 and d6 classes.

>>54841484
>>54841397
How's it feel knowing Zon-Kuthon is more associated with Shadows and Darkness than raw Pain?

Zon-Kuthon existing confirms Necromongers, we Riddick now.

>>54841359
Compared to a 20 Strength Soldier, with Weapon Specialisation and Melee Striker: +16/3d10+17

Anyone else unironically interested in using the Light Armors even as a Soldier?

>>54841499
The "die in one hit" problem at level 1 isn't about a stray crit kill you, it's about a regular fucking hit killing you.

>>54841559
You sort of have to if you want to be anywhere near good at shooting, but then you might aswell just play Operative. Or be a Vesk with Guard for +2 to your armor max dex.

>>54841693
>You sort of have to if you want to be anywhere near good at shooting

What? Why?

>>54841725
Heavy armors will cap your Dex quite substantially, cutting down on your AB dex contribution to AC until at least level 12 where they start to permit +4 max dex. Even the most agile power armor only permits +5 dex bonus.

>>54841502
It feels like a meme come true.

>>54841293
I want to know the SEagle meta or Slow meta desu familia.

>>54841233
Lashunta Operative that is a hacker for the robots and wishes she was one. She doesn't own a weapon, but likes to ride her enercycle on the empty surface and do sick jumps cuz of the reduced gravity.

>>54841233
An Elf Operator that got stuck with the party through circumstance and hates every minute of it... But can't seem to find himself abandoning them.

I'm not sure how I'd do it but I want to somehow pull off the Kung-fu doctor thing in Starfinder

>>54842045
Does he ever catch himself accusing them of being the traitor race in the heat of an argument?

Are there any druid variants that summon terrifying aberrant creatures?

>>54840568
>Protection (Peace) and War (Conflict)
War tends to be more about people helping each other (cooperation) and protection is less about being peaceful and more about keeping things away (exclusion). Protection includes anti-magic fields! So they're still opposites, but for different reasons.

>>54842072
>>54842045
>You... You... DOUBLE TRAITOR

>>54842113
>Look at the way she walks. Just like a traitor.

>>54842072
Obviously. They're also all idiots, idiots that need his help, otherwise they'd never get anywhere. Also dead. They're like idiotic pets, really. Idiot, traitorous pets.

Oh boy, friends! I wonder who's gonna get into Intrigue!

>>54842222
The picks will be made with maximizing the pain in mind.

>>54842142
IT ALL
RETURNS
TO NOTHING

>>54842222
DHB will even though his character is objectively garbage.

Zealot 6/Wilder 1 or Nightmare Dread 7 into Awakened Blade?

>>54842301
All 10 living children will be iNTRigued, to maximize the pain.

>>54842367
All within the first and only session? Impressive.

Modern memes are weak. Bring back Rory.

>>54842397
I want Elder Memes, like marrying Drow or the bustiest NPC.

>>54842367
have you already decided then

>>54842397
Why would you want this?

>>54842397
Idunno, maybe later

>>54842413
Good times.

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>>54842367
>>54842246
It's time to stop.

1 hour left for apps. Picks will probably come tonight.

>>54842475
>iNTRig
NTR confirmed?

>>54842489
It's always been confirmed.

>>54842489
Purely a coincidence :^)

>>54842475
Who's ready to work in the salt mines when they don't get in, accusing the GM of all sorts of shit? I know I am!

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>>54842088
Gotcha, will make a change while I work on the Tree Map

So how about instead Order and Commotion? Rip off a bit from Bastion?

>>54842475
The pain must be maximized.
Is this the new catchphrase for accountants who worship Zon-Kuthon?

>>54842855
>>54842897
You are so desperate for attention aren't you?

>>54842897
>spoiler text
Wait what?

>>54842936
>>54842966
I've been seeing a lot of posts getting duplicated lately, actually. It might just be a glitch to do with the name field.

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Alrighty everyone. I have created a map with where all te Trees are located. I've tried to align them up in an intelligible way and to make them in locations that make sense for the nations near them using some dumb ley-line maps that I found and co-opted

>>54843001
That or a person looks at the post and realizes that the name field still has a name in it and deletes the post.

>>54843001
Nah, you are just an attentionwhoring faggot.

>>54843064
Possibly. I just assume that people aren't actually that dumb.

>>54839831
Whatever they are, they are also stated to be the most popular. Makes you think.

>>54839831
The (Lich's) Apprentice. Instead of an orange yelling "ur fierd" a lich articulates "You're fingered" and casts Finger of Death. You get a single chance at redemption if you survive the initial fingering, but you're not allowed to heal after that.

>>54843043

Seems wholly appropriate.

Is Triaxus still a thing in Starfinder? Are there still hairy elves riding good red dragons, fighting evil gold dragons?

>>54843043
Weather and Nature are not aligned properly to be polar to one another

>>54843235
>Is Triaxus still a thing in Starfinder?
Yes. The iconic Envoy has a Triaxian boyfriend.

>>54843235
Yes, its now full Shadowrun.

>>54843383
Read. Weather flies around the equator on a floating island, while Nature is at the center of the earth

>>54843410
She loves his fur, which is canonically soft and silken!

>>54843043
And now, here's a website I found which can show a full globe image of the world!

Please note, that unfirtunately the Dark and Light Trees on the poles couldn't show up on this autogenerated globe, and I just found the website so I kdont know how to make them appear

https://www.maptoglobe.com/Hkp4UgaPW

Also, here's an imgur link to a rotating gif. Unfortunately the filesize is too big to be posted here

http://imgur.com/O2KWiRW

>>54843610
>Life and Creation are massive underwater coral trees

Nice.

>>54843610
You know, for a barebones setting that someone tossed together from a random map in about twenty minutes, people are making some pretty cool stuff for it.

Anyone got a link to Blood of the Sea by chance?

>>54843665

What's the deity list look like again?

>>54843665
I want the Celebrity gods!

>>54843776

Far as I know, there isn't one. Some people put together a list of various personalities, but that seems super dumb, and I hope someone comes up with something different.

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So is there a full PDF of the Starfinder PHB uploaded anywhere yet? Our bastepin for SF is tragically underpopulated

>>54843850
It's pinned in the Discord, m8:
http://zalil.su/3875211
I uploaded it on a Russian website because the Mega kept getting taken down and Russians don't give a shit about copyright nonsense.

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>High tech future suit custom made for specific body type
>Motherfucker still uses rags for leg wrappings

>>54843956

I want to take that rat out shopping for some new clothes. They shouldn't have to wear the same things until they're so used and threadbare.

>>54843956
Hey man, sometimes you don't want metal on your more sensitie hairs.

>>54839642
I only have a rudementary knowledge of solar system building, but what in the literal fuck is this map. Are you telling me there's 5 planets, an asteroid field, and two space stations all in the habitable zone of that star?

>>54842413
I want to marry Shelyn!

>>54844062
maps not to scale

>>54844069
You want to marry a pedophile?

Every picture I see of Ysoki pisses me off. The Pathfinder ratfolk don't look that terrible, why would SF make them so ugly?

>>54844062
If the star is artificial it could have an adapted output to encompass a larger habitable zone, but it's probably just paizuri incompetence.

>>54844081
Because they're rats! Rats are ugly!

>>54844081
The proportions are so retarded. Gigantic heads and teeny tiny limbs. Its like they took the ratfolk, gnomes and halflings and rolled it up into one lolquirky race that ends up more annoying than endearing.

I mean, I guess the vesk make kobolds unpractical but man they really tried to make something unique but ended up with something way more generic than the sum of its parts.

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>>54844109

You take that back.

Okay, all this is doing is maximizing my own pain at this point. It's time for picks.

The following character have, or will soon have, received a letter from Elvargian Karvane:
>Mycroft Cutting, LE Half-Orc Investigator from Augustana. Affiliated with the White Goose trade company, it is on their behalf he has been sent to Michsbridge - for reasons he is only now starting to realize the truth of.
>Embry Winespeckle, NG Human Witch from Michsbridge. Never had she suspected the quiet, friendly Ranger Lenart to have been hiding such secrets, but she's more than happy to help him out in his time of need.
>Delnora Algata, NE Elf Investigator/Warlock Vigilante. A scammer and sneak-thief who works as a courier to get her hands on juicy information, she has in fact been tracking Elvargian's communications to his brother Abaric for a long time - and now, has stolen the documents intended for the Karvane Company representative meant to be sent to Michsbridge, impersonating them and going in their stead.
>Miri "Dale", LE Aasimar(Halfling) Magus from Ostenso. A slave born into the service of House Henderthane, she has been raised as the perfect secret agent by her masters - after all, nobody would expect a slip to willingly betray their own kind and work for a Chelish noble house - and now, she has been sent by Belphian Henderthane himself to unravel the mysteries of House Karvane's turmoil.
>Godefroy Lesarge-Masson, LG Human UCavalier from Laekastel. Previously a mere retainer for House Lesarge, he ended up remarrying into the house after a somewhat scandalous tryst with the Patriarch's daughter, Baroness Elnynaeve - and now, facing threats to the lives of both himself and his children, presumably from the scheming hands of his loving wife's family, he has engineered a way to get himself and his sons out of harms way for a while.

Sessions will be held on Sundays 8PM CET, starting next week, playing on an at-least-biweekly basis.

Thanks to everyone who applied!

>>54844144

Congratulations to those who made it, and best wishes to those who didn't.

>>54844144
>NG, LG
>NE, LE, LE

That won't end poorly at all.

>>54844144
>Only one dude
>He's a daddy

>>54844080
She isn't a pedophile! She's the perfect woman!

>>54844188
Mycroft is a decently hulking Half-Orc guy.

>>54844197
But who's the perfect man for the perfect woman?!

>>54844211

John Stamos. Sorry, anon.

>>54839904
>>54839831
How can no one have mentioned thunderdome?

Can pirates be mages?

>>54844197
She loves everything. Everything includes children. Loving children is either being a parent, a lovable old man whose own children have gone away and he just longs for the energetic hug of a little boy to give him a reason to love another day to happily share his life stories with the children or pedophiles. Shelyn is not an old man or a parent, so she has to be a pedophile.

>>54844262
Yes.

>>54844266
>Goddess of love
>not having children
u wot m8?

>>54844266
There are different kinds of Love! Get it together, Anon!

Kasatha are shit. Can I play a Witchwyrd instead?

>>54844144
>Guy that really hates slips
>Other party member is a slip
Yeah that will go well

>>54844311
Shelyn is a lesbian, the purest love there is. She regularly enjoys the company of Desna and Sarenrae!

>>54844358
There is nothing pure about a PEDOPHILE! WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

>>54844358

You know Cayden's plowed that fertile soil though, anon.

How do you charm a lady?

>>54844144
Luci BTFO

>>54844387
Charm Person with a decent DC.

>>54844358
She isn't a lesbian! She's pure! PURE!

>>54844358
>>54844384
Shelyn regularly enjoys being a pure loving wife to Erastil, as well.

>>54844380
Sheep are smarter than you'd think.

Goats too.

>>54844144
At least SOME of the Discord circlejerk didn't get in.

>>54844384
He isn't nearly suave enough. He's practically a child compared to her.

>>54843956
blame Paizo for not including shoes in the CRB, here's hoping for an Ultimate Equipment so these rabbit people can have shoes

>>54844460
Do you care who gets in, or do you just not want them to get in?

>>54844421
Dude there's no way Erastil would lower himself to that brocon.

>>54844482
Doesn't that specifically turn her on more? But it's not that he's not suave; he was suave enough to become a fucking god, but that he's not related to her. That's the catch.

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>>54844485
>needing shoes
>not having cyberfeet

>>54844387
A good way is to not be a slick slickster who can make a woman wet with a "how you doin'", but being slick is only the start. It gets her attention. The rest of it is to keep her interested in you, but not make it seem like you are a self engrandizing prick. Tell her about yourself, but be always ready to ask about her, listen to her. Making´her laugh puts her at ease, giving you ample opportunities to give her a charming smile or other mannerisms that make you seem attractive. Do not open your pandora's box at the start, no telling about your secret sex dungeon or your fetish for biting the dead skin from an old blister. Do not move close to her at the very start, shuffle slowly. read the mood and be ready to back up if the mood is going sour. As a sort of a way to seal the deal, gently stroke her hand or leg in a non-intrusive manner while you suggest meeting again or leaving the joint. If she playfully retreats and gives a sly "maybe" accompanied by her number or she straight says "yes" then you have struck gold. If she moves away in a more dismissive manner or stops your hand, take the hint and move unto the next target. Rinse and repeat until you reel in a fly girl you can protect from being dissed by gangstas. This of course is not a guarantee of finding love, as there are no rules for falling in love or even charming beyond being a person they find attractive. Smooth talking and being attractive takes you a long way, but do come up short every so often.

>>54844384
The only fertile soil Cayden is confirmed to have plowed was Desna, because Kurgess is their love-child!

>>54844492
The second one. Is that a problem? I don't need a bunch of circlejerkers who play pretend in their stupid Discord getting into every game.

>>54844421

Anon, if a goddess isn't capable of carrying dire bears to term, she has no business trying to be Erastil's wife.

>>54844417
Yuri is PUREST LOVE.

>>54844509
shut up nerd!

rabbits don't need cyberfeet, they're already rabbits

>>54844527
It just seems stupid. I mean, not wanting them posting their listings if they're just going to pick from the Discord, sure. But just not wanting them to have games just because seems odd. It's your decision, of course. I'm not a cop.

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Psst, hey, kid. Wanna buy some cybernetics?

>>54844557
Oh, no, I just hate it when they feign as if they're going to make it a fair application process, then only pick from other people in their Discord. I'm glad at least some of them were left in the dust. It's what they deserve.

>>54844509
>Starfox

>>54844555

But anon, what if someone steals their feet so they can keep them on a keychain for good luck? They'd certainly need cyberfeet then.

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>>54844555
>living creature of flesh
>doesn't need cyber feet

>>54844586
waaaaaaaaah

>>54844589
you make a good point for a nerd

>>54844607
ain't no rabbit made of flesh, get out of here

>>54844555
They'll need to remove them if they don't want to black out at higher g's

>>54844528
Shelyn is a loving, capable, fertile wife with zero problems carrying anything she wants to term.

>>54844607
Their feet are OK.

>>54844586
Seemed pretty fair to me. I'm not part of any cabal or anything and don't spam lewds and still got in.
Why so salty?

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>>54844630
you mean some kind of rabbot?

>IDrive confirms his skulls and shackles post with the mary sue drow avowed

why is he allowed to do this

>>54844586
Sure sounds like you're angry because you're too much of a hikkineet to talk to the GMs, anon.

>>54844635
Oh please. Has she ever even *looked* at something other than her own brother?

>>54844681
She has looked at a lot of things, and loved a lot of them. That's like...how she works.

Zonk-shelcest is not canon.

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Can I turn myself into this in starfinder?

rabbit people straight up have better and luckier feet they don't need cyberfeet when they can already jump high and shit, plus them feet are all sacred for their rabbit people, all they need is a good pair of jordans

Would you replace your dingaling with cyberware? nah dont think so nerd

>>54844703
I don't mean registered them as things in her field of view, I mean looked at them sexually.

>>54844703

Also just because she loves someone or something doesn't mean she'll have sex with it. She's the goddess of love; notably, she *does not have* the lust subdomain. She'll sleep with those who it may help, or who catch her eye in particular, but just because she loves you don't mean she'll sleep with you.

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>>54844716

Perhaps it wasn't consensual.

>>54844712

Sure, just lose every fight you're in and get shown up by a bald guy.

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>>54843731
Please?

>>54844716
>MY DINGALING
>MY DINGALING
>I WANT YOU TO UPGRADE
>MY DINGALING

>>54844775
It should be on the archive, possibly in the trove.

>>54844744
that's different son

eggman hit that so hard she needed new limbs afterwards

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>>54844716
That's an option?!

>>54844793
I can't find it unless it's not in the correct Companion subfolder.

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>>54844758
I met more in the "can replace some of your limbs with weapons" sense.

>>54844830
Check the archive for Leakanon's uploads then.

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I've read the rulebook up to the Equipment. I haven't posted my thoughts, but I am really getting the D&D 4e vibes from this. It feels like Classes, Items, and even Feats for god's sake have this 4e spin on the game. It all feels like things are based on spec trees instead of being their own unique class.

>tfw excited to make Hiryu but now having second thoughts about even playing SF.

>>54844839
Ty ty

>>54844712
Wear battlegloves over two mounted quickdraw prosthetic arms equipped with one-handed guns.

>>54844640
This time it WAS at least somewhat fair, and that's why I'm glad certain idiots that applied didn't get in just because they act cute in the Discord.

>>54844845
>I dislike things attempting to be organized and well-suited for tabletop gaming
Obviously Paizo failed at copying it, but what do you have against it?

>>54844845

What do you mean?

>>54844845
you do realize that 4e actually knew what it was doing, yes? While WotC fucked up royally by slaughtering far too many sacred cows, to the point where it didn't actually feel like DnD anymore, 4e was a fairly well balanced game with good support.

If Starfinder feeling like 4e means it also ceases to feel like the bullshit Pathfinder became, I fail to see how that's a problem.

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What planet is your first character going to be from?

>>54844909
Eox. Undead Shirren exoskeleton reporting for duty!

>>54844909
Golarion, because Starfinder is ass and I'm not playing it.

>>54844144
>1 BIG GREEN
>1 literal tavern wench
>1 angsty tsundere
>1 smol slave girl
>1 DADDY KNIGHT

So who's gonna be the first to get some BREEDING action?

>>54844845
don't worry bro it's still the slapped together trash we all love

>>54844929
Are there rules for playing Eoxian undead? I haven't had a look at the book yet

>>54844940
Tavern wench and BIG GREEN seem like the obvious one.

>>54844905
Right, which is why things were very lackluster and boring as far as a system goes. I didn't expect for Starfinder to be 4e. I expected it to be similar to a tried a tried and true system with new and expansive things.

Sure you can blame it on me for expecting that, but it's the same situation then as 4e had.

>>54844905
Nah don't worry. They don't really seem to be slaughtering THEIR sacred crows, but instead we have to deal with them keeping some of their most retarded ideas across both games.

>>54844956
What about DADDY KNIGHT though? He's even got a bunch of bastard children already, what's to stop him from having more?

>>54844256
Becasue we've all move on Beyond Thunderdome

>>54844960

How do you mean? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

>>54844859
I think you're just salty you didn't get in.
What was your character?

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>>54844956
>BIG GREEN seem like the obvious one

>>54844974
Tavern wench has probably had her fair share of older men, I think a big green softie would be a nice change of pace for a partner.

>>54844990
I don't think he even made one. He sounds like the kind of salty faggot who just hates on everyone and everything, and wishes /pfg/ games weren't a thing.

>>54844956
I dunno BIG GREEN seems too classy for a literal wench.

>>54844986
The point is that it being 4eish is not a good thing and I nor many other people aren't going to like Starfinder because the system itself and not the things on top of the system.

>>54844953
Hell no, I'm just shitposting about what I want to do while crying into my cup of whisky.

>>54844909
Sovyrien

>>54845011
That's the point! The wench lures him into her bed and corrupts the noble man.

>>54843776
>>54824217
There you go.

>>54845014
Okay. Have fun not playing it, then.

>>54845014

And what do you mean by 4eish?

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Wait so does /sfg/ actually think the SP and RP system is good?

>>54845025
He's green Moriarity though. If anything he'll corrupt her.

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>>54845019
I want to make an Elf too!

>>54845039
>can't take criticism
>j-just don't pl-play it
Get a trip so I can filter you dumbass paizodrone.

>>54845040
Example given in first post. Each class is the same thing with different abilities instead of being incredibly unique and different. This was the same thing that happened in 4e classes.

>>54845017
Honestly I dont see the point in playing if I cant play a cyberzombie glamour icon. Curse you, Paizo!

>>54845040
Another example that's fairly easy from what I've read so far is feats being very active ability.

Another example is literal item level.

Another example is having an alt currency for different things regarding your party/character.

>>54845081

How are they the same thing? What constitutes "unique and different" in your view?

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>>54845094
There are so many horrible sci-fi abominations I'll never get to play, it almost makes me wish I cared enough to learn and find players for a better system. Almost.

>>54845081
I'd say the individual Starfinder classes are much more distinct from one another than the core Pathfinder classes tended to be compared to each other. Everyone has some unique mechanic that makes them play a bit differently, even if some end up really janky like Solarian. Every class has at least one talent list so you can run one member of one differently from another.

Sorcerer and Wizard, or Fighter and Barbarian are much less distinct from each other than any two Starfinder classes I like to think.

>>54845066
What's yours gonna be like, pardner?

>>54845094

They'll probably be added in a supplement.

>>54845081
>Get a trip so I can filter you dumbass paizodrone.
You're the one that came here solely to say you weren't going to to play it. The other guy is asking for clarification, but I just don't care; you're simply acting like an asshole.

And it's not criticism, it's just complaining. "I don't like 4e! Starfinder is totally 4e again! I hate it!" that's not criticism, that's complaint. Related, but different. Describe to us which classes are the problem and what you'd do to change them to be more unique.

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>>54845165
An ambitious thug that sees the collective paranoia and isolationism of the Elven people as a perfect excuse to become a Corsair and leader of his own Wild Hunt.

>>54844940
The Tavern Wench is built for breeding.

>>54844408
Good, maybe they'll learn to make a character based on more than "cute".

>>54845213
>Breeding a tavern wench

That's like expecting something quality to come out of planting in a gutter.

>>54845190

Shit, that'd actually be pretty neat.

>>54844909
Ryphorian innawoods country boy with lotsaguns

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>>54844646
>That feel when robbit

>>54845225
Yeah but I bet she's also super easy.

>>54845272
Of course, but at the same time she's probably either infertile or got all the tricks to keep from having a bastard down.

>>54844408
Good riddance. Fucker ruined the /pgg/ Discord, doesn't deserve to get into any games.

>>54845291
What nonsense is this now?

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>>54845291

>>54845262
Triaxians aren't covered as a race, are they?

That said, the setting starts with Triaxus in Winter, so be prepared to be extremely fluffy.

Is it just me or is there no weapon finesse for starfinder?

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>>54845291
>an honest to god halfling somehow ruined the /pgg/ Discord

that doesn't sound like Power Word-fag

>>54845351
There isn't. Operative Weapons get dex to hit automatically.

>>54845336
They actually are. They're not all that great though.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/standard-races-1-10-rp/triaxian-10-rp/

>>54845351
Operative Weapon Quality.

>>54845355
>an honest to god halfling
What now?

>>54845351
Operative weapons let you DEX to hit for free. I don't think there's a way to get DEX to damage but the importance of attribute for damage has been significantly reduced.

>>54845190
Reckon mine's gonna shoot a bottle off an Ysoki head at fifty paces with her eyes shut

>>54845400
Why not hit the bottle and the Ysokai?

>>54845336
The actual race is called the "Ryphorians" I believe. I just wanna be a fluffy boy with loads of guns or a space musclegirl

>>54845362
>Not all that great
>they get a bonus feat at 1st level, +2 CON/WIS

Shit man, that bonus feat isn't all that bad. They'd make really good zen archers

>>54845408
I want to cuddle up with a space musclegirl covered in white, silken fur!

>>54845408
They're good, just kind of seem unfocused, and they don't have as many tricks as humans or half-elves. And that fucking Strength penalty kind of hurts for anything but a Druid or a Dexfag.

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>>54845408
>>54845421
>>54845336
Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgwwr!

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lmao

Are there any feats or alternate class abilities to give druid/ranger/paladin companions evolution points?

>>54845473
Calling shit "races" is a shitty fucking meme though. It's literally a made-up word with no clear reasonable definition, neither in fantasy or real life.

>>54845473
Tbh I'm more triggered by the usage of retarded Imperial Units and Fahrenheit in a futuristic space setting.
It upsets me every time I see it.

>>54844144
Wait, DHB actually got into a game?

Shit nibba

>>54845488
a marathon and a 100-yard dash are races though

>>54845488
Hello /int/

>>54845364
>>54845387
Its kind of weird that dueling swords aren't operative weapons. I'd have thought that fencer type dudes would be dex fags.

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>all these people who want to play Shirren, Ysoki, Humans...
>nobody wants to play a big firebreathing spider

>>54845473
I mean, he's not wrong.

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>>54845462
Pic related is a Winter Triaxian.

>>54845291
Shoo shoo, shitposter-kun.

>>54845508
He was already in Legacy of Blood and Flame, and he was pretty much a shoo-in for a couple other games but kept dropping out.

>>54845502
Fuck imperial.

Seriously. There's a reason only the two most ass-backwards anti-advancement countries on the fucking planet are using it now. Even the ones who came up with it originally threw it out as being retarded.

>>54845528
>be big gross bug
>can still operate firearms and spaceships somehow

Get thumbs stinky

>>54845355
Isn't she, like, 6' tall?

>>54845528
I very much want this as well, but First Contact racial options aren't quite made correctly. I think it's just a racial ability mod adjustment, though.

>>54845528

I'd totally be down for that, but I'm a little reluctant to play a Large race for my first character.

>>54845582
I think you're thinking of someone else.

>>54845407
Reckon she might if they're makin' a ruckus

>>54845578
>no hands or basic humanoid shape
>monstrous humanoid
Gets me every time.

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Draph in Starfinder when?

>>54844940
On that subject...
How do you build the most breedable character?

>>54845637
Never, hopefully.

>>54845582
That's Luna, not Luci. Luna is okay, Luci is annoying.

>>54845427
>>54845543
Give them two different stat adjustments depending on season. +Con/+Wis/-STR for winter, +Dex/+Cha/-WIS for Summer?

>>54845524
Casimir btfo

>>54845543
>Boring

Welp.

>>54845664
Sorry, I knew I was getting the two of them confused. One's an attention seeker and one's not, right?

>>54845664
>Luna
>okay
I would've disagreed with you a few weeks ago, but I'm starting to understand Luna more.
Luci is often very grating, BUT I bet I could understand her better with time too.
Everyone is someone, and no one is the caricature the thread paints of them.

>>54845711
Hahaha!

>>54845387
>>54845351
What are the Operative weapons, anyway? All I'm seeing are Batons.

>>54845664
Luna is a massive faggot though.

>>54845736
Its really dumb how blunt force weapons are dex based in SF

>>54845739
Not as much as Luci, though.

>>54845716
We're few of us fully ourselves on the internet, making it easier to paint us as caricatures without full context.

>>54845739
*rolls

>>54845736
Knives and other light things.

>>54845355
>>54845291
>/pgg/ Discord
>worth anything
It and everyone in it doesn't to burn.

>>54845783
I wanted Dueling Swords to be Operative! This sucks!

>>54845664
Luci is also about 6' though.

>>54845639
High Constitution and Charisma, at least decent Strength and Dexterity.
Good Fortitude save, low Will save.
Training in some physically-oriented Perform skill.

But really, you can throw all that shit out if you just use character art that catches the thirsty-as-fuck thread's attention.

>>54845804
>>54845664
>>54845582
Proof?

>>54845807
Wouldn't low STR also work though? She doesn't need to be able to resist being bred, after all.

>>54845800
>It and everyone in it doesn't to burn.
Sorry?

>>54845766
Exactly. Even when people annoy me, I try my best to give them a chance, because I probably don't have the full picture. It's important to be fair and allow the opportunity to learn more about them before passing a binding judgment.

Be kind to everyone you meet, for they are each fighting a difficult battle.

>>54845827
You don't have to physically overpower her, just weaken or otherwise debuff her. Naturally above-average Strength is better for the resultant offspring.

>>54845835
You sound like a faggot.

>>54845818
I just remember her mentioning it once.

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>>54845756

How do you mean?

>>54845861
We wanted swords.

>>54845835
You're a fag, but you're a good fag.

>>54845853
Oh no! Never heard that one before. What will I do?!

Starfinder.5 Edition when?

/pfg/ rewrite of Starfinder when?

>>54845846
Good point. What is the best race to breed, though? While it's not necessarily the most optimal numbers-wise, a high-ranking drow noble turned into a broodmare is a very nice idea to work with.

>>54845924
>What is the best race to breed, though?

One that produces good offspring, and often. While Elves and Drow are ideal for producing half-elves, conception is difficult with them. Therefore, I'd suggest Aasimar.

>>54845873
You don't need anything other than the Curve Blade. Katanas finally got the statblock they deserve in the dimension slice version!

>>54845907
>Starfinder rewrite
Some other God becomes the vassal of humanity. Given the setting Abadar seems to be the most appropriate.

Really fucking surprising since Iomedae is one of the most hated deities so I see very little reason why they chose to pick her other than to appeal to the PC crowd.

>>54845962
Curved Blades are Operative Weapons?!

>>54845963
They don't need any other reason than that, anon.

I suggest Erastil should be the new patron of all of mankind.