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I'm interested in using the Mongol aesthetic for a civilization in a game being put together.

Right now I'm looking at clothing, armor, weapons, etc.

Does anyone have Mongol character art to share?

And is the show "Marco Polo" accurate with regards to Mongol costumes?
Like the helmets and swords the Khan's household guard have. Are those an accurate Mongol style? Do they have a specific Mongol name?
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>>54837419
The problem with the Marco Polo show is that (besides just being porn) it's all about Kublai Khan. Kublai was a sinophile adopting Chinese dress, culture, language, etc. If you want classic Mongol style look up anything pertaining to Genghis, Ogedei, or Guyuk. And listen to Genghis Khan by Iron Mask.
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>>54837419

>Mr. short guard, next time don´t put prisioner´s hand next to your sword please. I would like to avoid scenes in which the said prisioner grabs a weapon and happens to be an unstopable martial artist.
The Great Khan.
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>>54837480
>) it's all about Kublai Khan.
That's the great part. He's both a more interesting character and better acted.
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>>54837525
Yes but he's hardly Mongol. Kublai is very interesting, but not what OP is looking for. Kublai was reviled by many of the Mongol officials who remained in Mongolia for being too Chinese-like. Kublai is like a wigger. It's kind of sad to see a wigger try to be black, despite the fact that they do good work.
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Bumping for interest
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Just look up Finnish medieval art, since they're directly decended from Mongols.

- A proud Fingol.
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>>54837480
>besides just being porn
hold up you have my interest now
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>>54837495
This is basically what I saw too... it's exactly what my fighter/thief would do (2e game)
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>>54837419
http://deremilitari.org/2014/06/the-art-of-war-under-chinggis-qahan-genghis-khan/
>Because the population of Mongolia was so small (some say it was over one million; I am inclined to put it at two million), human life was very precious. One can see from Chinggis’s tactics that the Mongols tended to avoid hand-to-hand fighting in order to minimize casualties among their soldiers.

http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/texts/rubruck.html
>William had the distinction of being the first European to visit the Mongol capital of Karakorum on the Orhon River and return to write about it.
>Introduction
>Yurts and their furnishings
>The Mongols' social and religious customs; celebrations
>More on food
>Kumiss (fermented mare's milk, called cosmos by Rubruck)
>Animals in the Mongols' diet.
>Clothing
>Funeral practices
>Rubruck resumes his travel narrative
>Nestorians
>Crossing the Volga
>At Khan Batu's court
>Buddhists and Buddhism
>More Nestorians
>Christians at the court of the Khan
>The Khan's palace at Karakorum
>Description of Karakorum
>Religious debate at court
>Rubruck's final audience at court
>Religious customs
>The Khan's letter to the King of France
>Rubruck's return journey

http://deremilitari.org/2014/05/the-mongol-siege-of-xiangyang-and-fan-cheng-and-the-song-military/

http://www.atarn.org/mongolian/mongolia.htm

http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/boodog.html
>Marmot or goat, cooked with hot stones in the stomach.

http://deremilitari.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/somogyi.pdf
>The Destruction of Damascus by the Mongols in 1299-1301

http://deremilitari.org/2014/08/the-inner-asian-warriors/

http://deremilitari.org/2016/09/description-of-mongol-warfare-from-friar-john-of-plano-carpini/
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A few bits of what's apparently Mongolian gear. Not exactly comprehensive, but it's something.

And while I wouldn't trust it very far if historical accuracy is desired, Osprey's The Mongols may be useful as inspiration for fantasy.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/53xyjzcmzzm/The_Mongols.pdf
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Get the hardcore history on the Mongols. It's amazing and features lots of primary documents. I dont think it's available on the podcast anymore, but if you're serious about getting that Mongol feel, ten bucks or so is very worth it!
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>>54837419

Also Marco polo has lots of weeboo fighting magic, and not enough how's. Mongols are horse archers, that's how they fuck shit up so bad. They are an archery culture, and a horse culture. Though Kublai is a bit more Chinese than the khans before him.
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>>54837480
This is a pretty big part of the show's plot.
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>>54838067
The Finns are destined to rule (half of) this planet!
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>>54837419
The mongols were fundamentally a raiding culture. They regularly took and used the best things from their defeated enemies including armor, clothing, weapons and people. So PCs should fit right in.

One thing of note that often isn't apparent on tv: the mongols had a prohibition on bathing due to some legend about a water spirit. So mention the smell, and the fact that what they wear is rotting off their bodies.
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>>54837419
include the oil wrestling
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>>54837419
bump
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Pic related
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Mongol killing the shit out of each other (Golden Horde vs ilkhanate)
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>>54849129
I highly doubt they were color coded, but that's still some pretty neat art.
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>>54840965
Seriously underrated post. Thanks man, from one Mongol nerd to another. I'd also recommend Dan Carlin's Wrath of the Khans series but it's moved behind a paywall now. It's definitely worth the price though, a great series for anyone wanting a pretty sweeping political and military history by an old journalist with a penchant for storytelling and great quotes.
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>>54838067
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Shut Hell is pretty good.
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>>54843658
>the one in the right
nnnggghh
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>>54837419

I read a book about Ghengis Khan. One of their big cultural taboos is blood -- specifically, getting the blood of your enemies or friends on you.

They really ddn't like getting blood on them. That's why they liked archery so much. It kept their distance from their enemy.

Ghengis Khan, Temujin, is recorded as riding his own horse up until the day he suffered a nasty fall, broke something important and fell sick (and eventually died). That was when he was in his late 60s.

And this was in 1190 or so. Dude lived half a century in an age where most poelpe where happy just not starving.
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>>54855146
As other anons have said, the mongols were supremely skilled at taking the useful innovations of others. Siege machines. Armor. Trade. Writing. Taxes. Paper money. Roads.

When they went to war, they had a nasty habit of rounding up groups of ten men to act as slaves, cannon fodder and whathave you. This was done the following way: Each mongol warrior (whom, by the way, were organised in units of ten, whom all shared common responsibility, so if one of them stole or abdnoned his duty ,all ten men got punished) was required to go out and find ten able-bodied men. These ten slaves would be responsible for buiulding camps or siege engines, for transporting goods or just used as meat shields or extra arms in an attack.

There are accounts of the Mongols filling the moats of besieged towns with these slaves.
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One little known specialty of the Mongols is that they were also supreme spymasters and maintained intelligence networks with the level of sophistication not seen in the Western world until centuries later.

Thus "assassinating the current Khan to cause Mongol infighting" is easier said than done, since they were way better in this kind of dirty works then many assume.
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>>54837419
Just don't forget the Mongolian beef.
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