Chaos Marine Codex Lore Dump

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>>54832228
>The last of and greatest of these destructive campaigns was levelled at Cadia itself. Abaddon’s Thirteenth Black Crusade brought about so much death and destruction that his daemonic allies could breach realspace wherever they wished and be sustained indefinitely by the unbridled mayhem that raged around them. The demolition of the strange black monoliths scattered across Cadia’s surface was finally
achieved, the capstone of a grand design that had seen the cataclysmic events of Pandorax, Fenris, the Planet of the Sorcerers and a dozen worlds besides tied together into one galaxy-wrecking whole. Suddenly, all the manifold armies of Chaos were free to pour into realspace like blood from a deep wound. True to his claims, Abaddon had succeeded in ripping open the gates of hell.

>As the galaxy has split along its length, with warp storms raging in a hundred locations and more, those Traitor Legions and Renegade Chapters who have sworn allegiance to the Warmaster have formed the vanguard of the invasion. They are a broad-headed spear that has plunged deep into the heart of the Cadian System and emerged from the other side. Abaddon cares little how many casualties are amassed as his great agenda comes to fruition. His only concern is that enough blood be spilled to saturate the battlefields of the Imperium’s defenders, and in doing so summon more daemonic armies to his cause. This is a strategy Abaddon intends to see replicated on world after world as he extends the Crimson Path, each planetary invasion taking the Chaos Space Marines closer to Terra, with the armies of the Daemon lords following in their wake.

>>54832248
>With Cadia reduced to ruin, the Cicatrix Maledictum is being effectively weaponised by Abaddon’s invasion. It spills out behind the Thirteenth Black Crusade, roiling and growing more violent in Abaddon’s wake, agitated by the scale of the Black Legion’s many slaughters. Simultaneously, dozens of Renegade Chapters from the warp anomaly once known as the Maelstrom are pouring out into Segmentum Solar, forcing the Space Marines and their Primaris reinforcements to spread themselves thin as they fight on hundreds of fronts. Abaddon has driven a talon of unreality into Segmentum Solar, its onset heralding the doom of the Imperium. The High Lords of Terra live in constant fear of realspace collapsing entirely, and are sending every military force they can muster to halt Abaddon’s rampage. As the drama plays out to its desperate conclusion, one thing remains certain – unending war.

-CSM dex

Tl;dr now it's more explained with more detail for those too slow to catch up with the lore. The objective of the 12 past Black Crusades was targeting the Necron Pylons and finding ways to weaken the walls of reality in order to create Great Rift and then the Crimson Path. Abaddon artfully used misdirection and obfuscation to achieve his true objectives while the Imperium and Eldar were clueless.

Dumping individual Black Crusade lore.

>Abaddon the Despoiler’s First Black Crusade

>Mustering a vast army of traitors and Daemons, Abaddon leads the Black Legion out of the Eye of Terror to lay waste to the Imperium. In a great battle around the worlds of Cadia, the traitors are turned back by newly raised Space Marine Chapters and the Legio Titanicus. During the fighting, Abaddon secretly travels to the world of Uralan and claims the ancient Daemon sword Drach’nyen.

>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Second Black Crusade

>Abaddon places a death-curse upon the worlds of the Belis Corona Sector, infusing them with the touch of the warp. His fleet attacks the sector’s shipyards, destroying dozens of Imperial cruisers under construction or repair. The Imperium, focusing on the war in space, musters a naval force to fight back. Entrusting his flagship to his Sorcerers, the Despoiler then teleports to the Inquisitorial stronghold of Nemesis Tessera. He topples its hexagrammic ‘Eldritch Needles’, ravaging the black stone with sustained melta fire before withdrawing. The Inquisition later find that a critical vault cell has been opened and its daemonic prisoner – the legendary nemesis for which the planet is named – is missing.

>>54832317
>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Third Black Crusade

>The Despoiler sends the Daemon Prince Tallomin against the Cadian Gate in a reckless frontal assault. The daemonic horde that follows in Tallomin’s wake accounts for millions of lives and draws in Imperial Guard regiments and Space Marine Chapters from across Segmentum Obscurus. Eventually, the Space Wolves manage to banish Tallomin back to the warp. Under the cover provided by the attack, Abaddon leads a strike force to desecrate the shrine world of Gerstahl, breaking the ancient seals on the eponymous saint’s tomb and destroying his remains while the Imperium’s attention is directed elsewhere. This act of supreme violation banishes the saint’s spirit, thwarting the prophecy that he would one day rise again whilst weakening the planet’s psychic defences.

>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Fourth Black Crusade

>During the El’Phanor War, the Black Legion besiege the Citadel of the Kromarch. Abaddon leads the charge against the gates of the fortress, but so great is the firepower of the citadel that only a handful of his Chaos Space Marines make it past the kill zones of the Imperial defenders to the fortification’s walls. With a single blow from Drach’nyen, the Warmaster sunders the towering doors of the fortress. In the process he shatters not just a portal of immense strength, but an ancient empyric barrier, for the citadel’s gates incorporated ancient monoliths that had kept a potent warp node sealed. The Black Legion and their daemonic allies fall upon the Kromarch and his kin, conquering the citadel and extinguishing their ancient line.

>>54832340
>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Fifth Black Crusade

Abaddon scours the Elysia Sector, ordering the destruction of specific cities, shrines and temples across dozens its worlds. Each act of violation shatters the warp-seals that had held psychic mutation stable in that region of space. On Tarinth, the Despoiler lures the Warhawks and Venerators Chapters into the ruins of Kasyr Lutien where he traps them between the daemonic hordes of Khorne and the Black Legion. In a bitter last stand, both loyalist Chapters are completely destroyed, their skulls taken by the Daemon Prince Doombreed to be mounted upon Khorne’s throne.

>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Sixth Black Crusade

>he Warmaster visits his wrath upon Drecarth the Sightless. Abaddon aids the Sons of the Eye in an assault on the forge world of Arkreath, fighting with them side by side until the planet’s Adeptus Mechanicus defenders are
finally crushed and its complex durasteel ziggurats battered to shapeless lumps of metal that no longer fulfil their function as sophisticated flux-cages. As the two leaders address their respective forces in the war’s aftermath, Abaddon strikes Drecarth down, forcing him to watch the arrayed Sons of the Eye kneel before slaying him in a ritual display of violence.

>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Seventh Black Crusade

>During the Ghost War, a strike force of Blood Angels joins battle against Abaddon’s forces upon the world of Mackan. The Despoiler singles out the sons of Sanguinius, personally leading a band of Khorne Berzerkers in a charge against their lines. The traitors that survive the loyalists’ gunfire reap a bloody toll. So frenzied is the assault that the surviving Blood Angels are unable to recover the bodies of their fallen.

>>54832361
>>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Eighth Black Crusade

>On worlds throughout Segmentum Obscurus, Abaddon’s forces cull precise numbers of Imperial citizens in the name of Tzeentch. The living-metal monoliths beneath the crater-cities of Teekus glow
brighter with each ritual slaughter until, at the culmination of the ninth, the structures begin to melt. By the time agents of the Inquisition identify a pattern in the Black Legion’s actions, Abaddon has already achieved his aims.

>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Ninth Black Crusade

>As part of a wider strategy to disable the naval fortress Cancephalus, Abaddon leads his Ninth Black Crusade against the heaving population of nearby Antecanis. The seat of the world’s Imperial commander, Monarchive, is besieged by Abaddon’s vanguard. Black Legionnaires butcher their way through the lower levels of the hive, whilst the Despoiler himself storms its inner sanctums. By the time Imperial Guard from Cancephalus arrive to reinforce the surviving defenders, Abaddon and his forces have already left the planet’s surface.

>As a gesture of contempt, the Black Legion drop a dozen cyclonic warheads onto the ruins of Monarchive. The seventeen-year war that ensues eventually robs both Antecanis and Cancephalus of their most precious resource – manpower. Without the fleets of the naval fortress to stop him, Abaddon is able to ravage the sector at will, and his Sorcerers are free to conduct the rituals required to weaken the walls of reality in that region of space with impunity.

>>54832387
>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Tenth Black Crusade

>Abaddon’s armies and Perturabo’s Iron Warriors invade the Helica Sector. While the Black Legion assault the capital world, Thracian Primaris, the Iron Warriors focus their attack against the Iron Hands Chapter, seeking to settle an old blood debt. The Iron Warriors lay waste to the worlds of the Medusa System and push the Iron Hands to the brink of extinction. Only when the loyalist Chapter receives heavy reinforcement do Abaddon and the Iron Warriors disengage, taking with them valuable intelligence concerning Medusa’s defences.

>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Eleventh Black Crusade

>The Despoiler’s fleet becomes lost in the warp, finally returning to realspace in the path of Waaagh! Murgor. In the ruins of Relorria, the Black Legion bring the greenskins to battle. After months of fighting, Abaddon orders the Black Legion to leave Relorria to its fate and return to the Eye of Terror – but not before the Warmaster fills the holds of his fleet with captured Ork Weirdboyz. In conjunction with a coven of his most powerful Sorcerers, he uses the volatile psychic energies of the greenskin abductees in a daemonic hybridisation ritual that weakens the fabric of reality across the Relorrian System.

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>>54832402
>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Twelfth Black Crusade

>Abaddon leads his fleet into the Gothic Sector, capturing three of the prehistoric star-forts known as the Blackstone Fortresses. Under Abaddon’s control, the might of the Blackstone Fortresses is used to destroy the star Tarantis, consuming several of the system’s closest worlds in the process and ravaging the Imperial fleets sent against the Black Legion. Eventually, the Despoiler’s fleet is driven back, though at the end of this period – known in the Imperium as the Gothic War – Abaddon escapes into the Eye of Terror with two of the Blackstone Fortresses. The vast engines of destruction are to emerge once more in realspace during Abaddon’s Thirteenth Black Crusade.

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>>54832437
>Abaddon the Despoiler’s Thirteenth Black Crusade

>The armies of Chaos invade Cadia and its many surrounding worlds. The forces of the Dark Gods read like a roll call from epic battles of the ages. Always in the vanguard are the Black Legion, followed by the Death Guard, World Eaters, Alpha Legion, Thousand Sons, Night Lords and other Legions from the annals of the blackest days. Renegade Chapters long thought extinct renew their assaults on the Imperium of Man. Before them run scabrous cultists, deranged mutants and traitorous scum in numbers too great to count. Behind them march Daemons of all the Ruinous Powers, the nightmares of mortals made real, led by their infernal overlords.

>After a gruelling campaign with a death toll that spirals into the trillions, Abaddon the Despoiler succeeds in tearing down the strange pylons that for thousands of years had held the Cadian Gate as a stable region of space. Cadia falls soon thereafter, and a wave of warp storms roars into being across the length of the galaxy. Astropaths everywhere fear to open their minds to receive or broadcast messages, for the immaterium rings with mind-splitting peals, possibly the sound of the myriad tears ripping open in the barrier between the material universe and the warp, or perhaps the laughter of the Dark Gods…

>The Great Rift Opens

>A chain reaction of warp cataclysms rips across the Imperium, plunging its worlds into disaster and awakening the dormant powers of latent psykers across the galaxy. The Imperium is torn in two along its length, giving rise to the phenomenon known as the Cicatrix Maledictum. Countless civilisations are lost to daemonic incursions as the galaxy burns

And that's it for the Black Crusade and the educational section of this thread. Going to the fun stuff. But before I proceed now that Abaddon's Crusade all were confirmed to be victories and thrusts towards his ultimate goal, how does this feel? Will you stop memeing now?

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It's Alpha time!

>I Am Alpharius

>Word reaches the High Lords of Terra of a Chaos Lord claiming to be Alpharius ravaging the adamantium-laced moons of the Danevra Sub-sector. Debate rages about whether this could potentially be the case, for the Primarch’s death has been recorded more than once across the span of Imperial history. The Grand Master of the Officio Assassinorum dispatches a force of six Vindicare marksmen. Over a number of years they identify and slay a dozen Alpha Legion champions bearing the name of Alpharius upon the scrolls of their battle plate, but the reports of raids upon the sub-sector’s mining operations only intensify. Five years later, the decapitated heads of all six Vindicare Assassins are found frozen in the food storage halls of the High Lords.

>Dreams of the Serpent

>A plague of nightmares engulfs the psyker-rich world of Seer’s Rest. Each of the planet’s oracles, hedge wizards and soothsayers reports having the same recurring dream – that of a rain of serpents that covers the land. Such is the intensity of these dreams that the subconscious gestalt of the planet’s psykers manifests them in reality, and the planet’s populace is halved in a day. Millions die to venomous snake bites before the psykers fall into a fugue state and the rain stops. The Adeptus Arbites investigation finds,
too late, that the atmosphere processors of the world’s terraforming engines have been spiked with psychotropic gas. When the Alpha Legion descend to destroy what remains of the planet’s guardian provosts and Astra Militarum regiments, the storm of psychic energy intensifies to such a degree that Seer’s Rest is reclassified as a Daemon world. The Alpha Legion abduct thousands of comatose psykers.

>>54832463
>Abaddon's Crusade all were confirmed to be victories
So, a load of retcon bullshittery then?

Yeah, how about no?

Claiming that Abaddon 'artfully used misdirection to achieve his true objectives' is pure chaos fanwank posing as lore by GW, and part of the reason why every non-Chaos player hates your faction so much these days.

>>54832574
Let the chaosfags have it Anon. The retcons are all they have.
>We didnt really fail 13 times
>We didnt really miss Terra with the Crimson Path
>Look at this secondary objective that was never mentioned before that we achieved
Poor sad fuckers.

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The Iron Primarch has returned!

>>54832644
But they didn't miss Terra though. The Crimson path is about following the Black Crusade towards Terra. It was never about it going there by its own. Re-read the Black Legion supplement, 6th ED CSM, and the text above.
And the Pylons are the main objective doe. You guys sound bitter. It's alright you cannot always win.

>>54832644
Implying fluff matters anymore with all the recent bullshit.

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>>54832699
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT!

>The Humbling
>Endt Thrinn, the genius planetary governor of Inviolus, completes his dynasty’s planet-girdling fortress network. In his cups, he is much given to boast that his home planet is unassailable. Agents of the Alpha Legion relay this claim to their Iron Warriors brothers, and before long Lord Mandrakk has made warp translation in-system at the head of a large fleet. Instead of attacking Inviolus directly, he invades the nearby agri world of Dalathro’s Rest.

>The bread basket of the Inviolus system, Dalathro’s Rest is well defended by the Astra Militarum. Mandrakk bombards it from orbit whilst launching boarding actions against every craft bound for Inviolus. Within the year the people of Inviolus are crippled by starvation. Though reinforcement arrives in the form of a company of Mentor Legion Space Marines, Mandrakk has ensured that Inviolus’ half-starved defence forces are easy prey for his teleporting annihilation squads. The planet is seized and repurposed as a Chaos base.

>>54832761
>The Machine Eyrie

>The Iron Warriors flagship Merciless Spiteis forced to crash land in the salt-rich Glowing Ocean of the feudal planet Prime Gala. Colonised by House Terryn several years earlier, the planet’s Imperial Knight defenders stride out into the shallow waters to attack the crashed spaceship. The first wave, led by King Dontros, scales one flank of the Spite, only to find its upper reaches infested by Heldrakes. The Knights fight bravely, but the Daemon Engines attack in such numbers they are toppled into the sea or ripped apart.

>The second wave, attacking some weeks later, is confronted by the corrupted remnants of their former comrades – the Merciless Spite’s master, Lord Admiral Vaen, has replaced each Throne Mechanicum’s incumbent with one of his own Chosen lieutenants. Over the next three months, the terrifying combination of Renegade Knights and Heldrakes allows the Iron Warriors to enslave the feudal world’s population from one pole to the other.

>The Grand Siege Begins

>Having studied the Imperial defences of Segmentum Obscurus in detail via a combination of remote scrying, methodically applied torture of captive loyalists and a network of techno-cultist informants, Perturabo learns much of their capabilities and limitations. When Cadia finally falls and the Cicatrix Maledictum splits the galaxy from end to end, the Daemon Primarch mobilises a thousand armies and coordinates them in a grand strategy that targets the most heavily defended Imperial worlds in the segmentum.

>So begins a brutal blockade of the Imperium itself. As Perturabo’s embittered armies march forth, menageries of Daemon Engines and batteries of artillery machines at their side, a dozen fortified worlds previously thought inviolable are brought to the edge of total disaster by the Iron Warriors’ merciless siege tactics.

The Imperium itself is being besieged by Perturabo legions. There is no hope against this. Dorn is ded.

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>>54832541
>Five years later, the decapitated heads of all six Vindicare Assassins are found frozen in the food storage halls of the High Lords.

Dont toy with me anon..is that legit what it says?

>>54832782
No bits on human troops/slave-jannissaries, or is it all marines all important all the time?

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>>54832782
>There is no hope against this. Dorn is ded.
Who needs this loser when you have BobbyG?

Ave Dominus Nox!

>False Saviours

>Together with the Alpha Legion, the Night Lords save the algae-mining Garagos Entrenchment from being completely overrun by Waaagh! Krushbakk. The members of this seemingly benevolent strike force are largely clad in the colours and insignia of loyalist Space Marines, giving the populace of Garagos a few blissful days of hope. Only when the Orks are driven off-world do they realise they have merely exchanged one set of persecutors for another – and that the second doom to befall them is far more malevolent

>Twisted Justice

>After millennia of slaughter, the Night Lords warmonger Anvrex Rarth becomes disenchanted with indiscriminate violence. He vows to embody his Primarch’s early days, punishing only those whom he believes deserve it – but doing so with such
grievous acts of retribution that none who hear of them dare stray from the path of righteousness. For a time, he finds a kind of peace, but his notions of morality are broken beyond repair. Within the year he is wreaking the most terrible of atrocities as a response to everything from the breaching of shipping contracts to the incorrect pronunciation of High Gothic.

>Empire of Fiends

>The Great Rift spreads panic and madness across the Imperium. The Night Lords are in their element, with many establishing small empires amongst those systems cut off from the Emperor’s Light

>>54832808
Yeah

>>54832842
Plenty mentions of cultists working alongside the traitor marines. I just skipped them because the events they are about are not that interesting. The Alpha Legion and Word Bearer sections have the most of them

>>54832884
>Within the year he is wreaking the most terrible of atrocities as a response to everything from the breaching of shipping contracts to the incorrect pronunciation of High Gothic.
More fluff like this. Less Abaddon being a fgt thanks.

>>54832898

The Word Bearers section is great though. They used precision bombardment to deface a loyalist planet's moon with eight-pointed stars.

And apparently Lorgar has returned the galaxy and is a Daemon Prince of all four Chaos Gods.

>>54832934
>Lorgar has returned the galaxy and is a Daemon Prince of all four Chaos Gods.

Chaos Undivided, yeah. But I thought that was already known.

>>54832934
>and is a Daemon Prince of all four Chaos Gods. please source this. i need it after all the belakor posting.

>>54832939
There is no source. It doesn't say that his a prince of Undivided.

>>54832884

I bet they got the heads there by secreting them away in shipments of food to Terra.

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>>54832939

page 38, paragraph 4: "As the atrocities carried out in the name of devotion rose to new heights, Lorgar was rewarded by his patrons with the gift of daemonhood."

page 40, Exile's End: "...rumours persist that Lorgar has finally ended this self-imposed confinement, and has been seen walking the mortal realms in terrible splendor, preaching the word of Chaos at the head of a Word Bearers force of shocking strength and conviction."

>The Saint’s Beacon

>The shrine world of Nepthys Madrigal is the last bastion of resistance against the empyric incursion led by Lord Vileblight, a Greater Daemon of Nurgle. So holy is the ground and so valorous its Adepta Sororitas defenders that every outbreak of Vileblight’s initial gambit, the Deathly Pox, is contained and sanctified within minutes of it occurring. In frustration, the Great Unclean One calls in an old debt with the Dark Apostle Kor Daradan. Within the month, the Word Bearers attack Nepthys Madrigal. As mortals, they are not repelled by the banishment sigils of the world, and cross the barriers that kept the Daemons out. They take the fight to the Sisters of Battle there with such vigour they force a full-scale evacuation of the populace. The conflict becomes a war of attrition in which the Chaos Space Marines prioritise casting down the temples and altars of the Imperial Creed, disrupting their wards. The planet falls to a wave of contagion and the subsequent Plaguebearer assault.

>Daemon Tide

>The frontier world of Gruelbowl is the site of a painstakingly planned mass sacrifice – not only of humans, but also captured Ork Freebooterz, Eldar Outcasts and T’au ambassadors. Despite the intervention of Craftworld Alaitoc, the Word Bearers complete their ritual. The Great Rift tears open across the space lanes around Gruelbowl, stranding it and leaving it at the mercy of the Dark Apostles who engineered its demise.

>>54832978
>Lorgar was rewarded by his patrons with the gift of daemonhood.
Kek. Carnac rekt again.

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>>54832934
>The Cursed Moons of Thranix

>The Word Bearers harness industrial cults to scorch titanic eight-pointed stars into the moons of Thranix. The capital world they orbit is blighted by a wave of daemonic possession soon after

It was the cultists.

>>54832995
LORGAR HAS RETURNED.

>Exile’s End

>After the Horus Heresy’s earth-shattering climax at Terra, Lorgar retreated ever further from the matters of the material realm, and went into seclusion indefinitely, cloistered in a locked sanctum on the planet Sicarius to atone for his deeds. As the 41st Millennium comes to a close and the Great Rift boils across the sky, rumours persist that Lorgar has finally ended this self-imposed confinement, and has been seen walking the mortal realms in terrible splendour, preaching the word of Chaos at the head of a Word Bearers force of shocking strength and conviction.

Now would probably be a good time for Corax, Russ, Khan, and Vulkan to get back from wherever they are

>>54832978
I wonder how he reacted to Guilliman having a xeno girlfriend.

>>54832996
>>54832978
They all agreed that one of them would reward him with daemonhood. As we saw in Be'lakor's dataslate fluff and Be'lakor's index fluff, the Chaos Gods know it's folly to raise an Undivided Prince. You gotta get more proof than that.

>>54833048
Just fuck off carnac

>>54833048

Perturabo's a daemon prince of Chaos Undivided though

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>>54833048
Ha deal with it fgt your headcanon proven wrong again.

>>54833056
Nope, and if you insist on this I will laugh the harder later when the Daemons of Chaos codex comes and goes more in Be'lakor's uniqueness among the Daemon Princes.

You don't get a free pass to ruin the backstory of one of warhams most iconic characters.

>>54833048
How does it feel to be such a fagget? Wtf I love 40k lore now

>>54833076
>unique
>most iconic
This is bait of the highest quality. Please kill yourself.

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>>54833080
>>54833071
You are setting up yourselves for quite fall come a few months. Be prepared for it.

>>54833099
>b-but I'm totally going to prove you w-wrong. Just you watch!
Abloo bloo bloo stop crying and shut the fuck up.

>>54833099
>You are setting up yourselves for quite fall come a few months.
Sure thing. Tell that to my Sisters of silence models retard. God I love how rekt you always get.
>Muh Belakor is special
Kek.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD. Once again Khorne proves why he is best god.

>The Feast of a Hundred Duels

>The centennial Feast of Blades, where the descendants of the Imperial Fists compete against one another in ritual duals, is the target of a massive World Eaters invasion. The sons of Dorn quickly unite against the Khornate maniacs smashing their way through the world’s defences. The finest Space Marine bladesmen of the age match their power swords against the chainaxes and flails of the World Eaters. Though the Chaos Space Marines finally fall to superior numbers, the skies rumble with Khorne’s approval, for the feast halls are awash with the hot blood of champions.

>Gladius Anathema

>Upon the quarantined world of Gladius, the Drukhari Wych Cult of the Seventh Woe fight their way into the great fang-lined fighting pits of the World Eaters in search of a challenge. The violent duels that result are amongst the fastest and most vicious that Gladius’ Daemon Prince masters have ever seen. Though dozens of Wyches and World Eaters die upon one another’s blades, Khorne is pleased by the intensity of the carnage, and blesses the occasion with a rain of blood that brings the dead back to life. A bond of wary respect is forged between the two factions, ultimately leading to the invasion known as the Great Blood Wager of Anathema Quartus.

You're a champ OP

>>54832541
>Five years later, the decapitated heads of all six Vindicare Assassins are found frozen in the food storage halls of the High Lords.

That is pretty fucking metal

>>54833126
>A bond of wary respect is forged between the two factions
Now this is the type of skub I can get behind.

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>>54832884


>After millennia of slaughter, the Night Lords warmonger Anvrex Rarth becomes disenchanted with indiscriminate violence. He vows to embody his Primarch’s early days, punishing only those whom he believes deserve it – but doing so with such
grievous acts of retribution that none who hear of them dare stray from the path of righteousness. For a time, he finds a kind of peace, but his notions of morality are broken beyond repair. Within the year he is wreaking the most terrible of atrocities as a response to everything from the breaching of shipping contracts to the incorrect pronunciation of High Gothic.

This is what 40k's lore, at least in codexes, should more often be

>>54833116
Ain't crying. I am anticipating your inevitable butthurt later. I know you know that I know you know that GW will always keep Be'lakor as the single Undivided Prince. It will be delicious.

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>>54832463
>And that's it for the Black Crusade and the educational section of this thread. Going to the fun stuff. But before I proceed now that Abaddon's Crusade all were confirmed to be victories and thrusts towards his ultimate goal, how does this feel? Will you stop memeing now?
>Will you stop memeing now?

You're implying this in any way stops the memes. People still meme about shit from 5th edition, this will do nothing to stop the jokes about Abaddon being the armless failure that he is. If nothing else, the tears of black legion fanboys is reward enough.

While it makes sense that he had to be accomplishing something in order to keep getting support for 13 of the damn things, it still reeks of asspulling in a "he's not a moron guys, we swear!" You could say he travelled to Terra and personally shoved his hand up the emperor's ass to use him as a sock puppet, and it would still feel that way.

Creeds a tactical genius, Tau are still communist Weaboos, and Abaddon the Armless is still a failure. Welcome to 4chins, enjoy your stay.

>>54833155
This is just getting pathetic. You've already been proven wrong. Stop being such a retard about it.

>>54833076
They're not, thats why Lorgar is getting his rightful attention.

Oh, you meant Bel'lakor? Damn, whats it like to have shit taste.

>>54833126
>The Skull Hunt of Octarius

>The Skullhunt of Vodha Bloodprice invades the Octarius System. After hearing about the Tyranids and Orks that clash there in an ever-escalating spiral of violence, they reason that the fighting there will be intense indeed, and that Khorne’s eye will be drawn to the furore. The World Eaters are not disappointed – within the space of a single year, over eight thousand skulls are offered to the Blood God, the smallest of which is the size of a boulder. Vodha ascends to daemonhood after slaying a Hierophant bio-titan with the greataxe of the fallen Ork warlord Magza da Kollossus.

>Blood Runs Hot

>The famously ferocious T’au Fire Warriors of Vior’la face an incursion of World Eaters. The Chaos Space Marines are so thoroughly lost to the worship of Khorne that their ranks contain as many Spawn as they do Berzerkers. The T’au’s impeccable fire discipline sees the World Eaters warbands kept at arm’s length – that is, until the infectious rage of the Khorne devotees begins to catch in the souls of Vior’la’s foremost cadres. The T’au, voices raised in primitive Fio’taun war cries that have not been heard for centuries, begin to engage the Chaos Spawn at close range and even charge in to engage them in close combat. It does not end well for the T’au. Millions die before a council of six Ethereals are scrambled to the site to lend their calming influence to the Fire caste cadres, restoring order and allowing the T’au to withdraw into low orbit before the World Eaters can complete the slaughter.

>>54833099
Nice try, Tzeentch. We see through your lies.

>>54833155
>Always keep

But it was a late retcon that made no sense?

>>54833183
I can sense your doubt

>>54833193
Late? It's two editions old.

>>54833211
And you think thats not a late retcon?

Partcularly given it caused a lot of lore issues?

>>54833195
I can sense your autism.

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>>54833188
>Hounds at the Gate

>A sudden invasion of Khornate Daemons assails Holy Terra; led by eight Bloodthirsters, it causes utter havoc before being hurled back by the defending echelons of the Emperor’s Palace. Word travels far of their defeat. Inspired by the prospect of victory erasing the defeat of ten millennia hence, the World Eaters gather in great strength to make their own attack upon Terra.

Terra will FALL!

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>>54833188

>The Skullhunt of Vodha Bloodprice invades the Octarius System. After hearing about the Tyranids and Orks that clash there in an ever-escalating spiral of violence, they reason that the fighting there will be intense indeed, and that Khorne’s eye will be drawn to the furore. The World Eaters are not disappointed – within the space of a single year, over eight thousand skulls are offered to the Blood God, the smallest of which is the size of a boulder. Vodha ascends to daemonhood after slaying a Hierophant bio-titan with the greataxe of the fallen Ork warlord Magza da Kollossus.

I can hear the power metal

>>54833222
It's almost decade old at this point. That's like almost 10 years of it being established lore. Changing it would to more harm than good.

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>>54833240
It was repelled by Guilliman in core rulebook.

Holy crap why is a lot of this stuff actually good.

>>54833188
>Vodha ascends to daemonhood after slaying a Hierophant bio-titan with the greataxe of the fallen Ork warlord Magza da Kollossus.
BRUTAL

>infectious rage of the Khorne devotees begins to catch in the souls of Vior’la’s foremost cadres. The T’au, voices raised in primitive Fio’taun war cries that have not been heard for centuries, begin to engage the Chaos Spawn at close range and even charge in to engage them in close combat.
Ahahaha oh boy

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Are you ready to get rocked?

>Flesh Meets Steel

>The Sensorians, a newly formed warband of Slaanesh-worshipping Chaos Space Marines, treat with the Dark Mechanicum in an attempt to pioneer Daemon Engines equipped with suites of sonic weaponry. In doing so they learn of the sombre Skitarii of the forge world Agripinaa, ancestral enemies of the Eye of Terror’s machine-hereteks.

>Appalled by the notion that the Skitarii voluntarily exchange their flesh for cybernetic replacements, the Emperor’s Children stage a grand raid upon the planet under the cover of a Dark Mechanicum invasion. They capture several maniples of Skitarii, overloading their circuits with barrages of intense noise and deafening scrapcode, before bearing them back to the Eye of Terror. There they cut out the Skitarii’s bionics and replace them with fleshy equivalents taken from mutants, from corpses, even from fallen Chaos Spawn, until barely an ounce of metal is left. The Fleshlings of Sensoria, though driven mad by the process, prove a potent asset in the Long War.


>>54833281
That was the Khornate daemon assault, not the Word Eaters assault.

>>54833267
No, it wouldn't. It would harm nothing to delete Bel'lakor from 40k entirely.

>>54833321
>The Eternal Duellist

>Lucius the Eternal leads a motley warband across the galaxy on the trail of the deadliest opponents his network of admiring torture-cultists can locate for him. He intends to hunt down the best melee fighters in the galaxy and beat them in one-on-one combat or die in the attempt. Over the course of several centuries he defeats the Dark Eldar Archon Vraesque in cursed Shaa-dom, the Emperor’s Champion of the Black Templars at Veilfate, and the Ork Warboss Two-klaws at Octarius Sigma.

>Eventually, on a nameless moon near Damnos, Lucius is cut down by the shape-shifting Necron duellist known only as the Phasing Sword. Not even the Necron’s body of living metal can prevent the Slaaneshi champion’s strange possession-curse from taking hold, however, for it takes a cold pride in its victory, and that is the seed of its undoing. Lucius is reborn inside his killer within days, the xenos warrior’s body drizzling away to reveal the twisted swordsman, as arrogant and maniacal as ever.

As a Necronfag, this passage triggered me to no end.

>The Primogenitor Primaris

>The deranged fleshmaster Fabius Bile is upon the world of Agrathane Excellia when he witnesses a strike force of Primaris Space Marines in action. Attacking from above, a strike force from the newly founded Nemesors Chapter takes a fortified Black Legion bastion complex in the space of an hour. Impressed despite himself, Bile develops an obsession with the capture and dissection of these statuesque warriors. His intent is to blend them body and soul with the dark energies of Chaos in order to breed his own twisted versions of Primaris Space Marines.

>>54833188
>over eight thousand skulls are offered to the Blood God
That's pathetic by 40k standa-
>the smallest of which is the size of a boulder.
Holy shit

>>54833267
>>54833322
>Deleting a pointless WHFB transplant who has done nothing will damage canon irreparably
>A thousand other retcons (esp. "It was actually Chaos") haven't
>The shitshow that is BL's Horus Heresy hasn't


Someone find me a skink and a rock

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>>54833352
>Bile develops an obsession with the capture and dissection of these statuesque warriors. His intent is to blend them body and soul with the dark energies of Chaos in order to breed his own twisted versions of Primaris Space Marines.

Here we go.

>>54833384
The truest weapon of holy slaying.

So 40k is just Space Warhammer Fantasy now.

> Pylons.
> Old ones.
> Great Rifts.

Basically warhammer fantasy.

>>54833155

You are a pathetic bitch.

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>>54833352

>The deranged fleshmaster Fabius Bile is upon the world of Agrathane Excellia when he witnesses a strike force of Primaris Space Marines in action. Attacking from above, a strike force from the newly founded Nemesors Chapter takes a fortified Black Legion bastion complex in the space of an hour. Impressed despite himself, Bile develops an obsession with the capture and dissection of these statuesque warriors. His intent is to blend them body and soul with the dark energies of Chaos in order to breed his own twisted versions of Primaris Space Marines.

Can't fucking wait

>>54833415
What do you mean, Old Ones existed since 1st ed, pylons since 3rd.

>>54833267

Eh, it's a blip. There were always Undivided princes, there will always be Undivided princes, it's just a thing.

>>54833415
You mean what it always was?

>>54832541

As an Alpha Legion player I love this. Alas I know it cements the argument that the Alpha Legion are mary sue :(

>>54833322
After interweaving him with major plotlines? I don't think so. The whole narrative will fall down. Be'lakor is meant to fulfil a crucial function in the setting. The same role he played in WHFB.

>>54833445
Explain then why Path to Glory games in AoS and 40K don't give the option for players to become Undivided Princes, hmmmm?

>>54833443
Pylons are waystones anon.

>>54833415
Old Ones are Old Ones.
Pylons are the Vortex
Great Rifts is the north and south gate rifts.

Yeah, 40K became fantasy in space.

>>54833455
Please, tell me the crucial role other than "whispers ... he will jave some great role."

Because that ultimately means nothing in codexes.

>>54833478
Waystones are obelisks that collect elven souls, necron pylons disperse Warp.

>>54833356
The Orks and 'Nids on Octarius are getting fuckhueg. No wonder the Blood Crusade got its shit wrecked even with all those skulls.

>>54833455
And he could have been erased there too.

Face it, he's superfluous, particularly in 40k. It literally hurts nothing. There is no crucial function. You need to accept this.

>>54833025
Definetly, with all the chaos shit going on we need them back yesterday.

>>54833483
He will have a part in the Black Legion novels because he is the guy who was instrumental in the rise of Abaddon. He already guided Ahriman to his goal in the Ahriman series. Also his fuck up on aboard the Phalanx led to Cadia being temporarily saved and then the heroes using the Phalanx to flee.

His role as underlined in his dataslate is to be the Herald of the End Times. He has a lot of heralding to do.

>>54833491
The waystones also maintain the Vortex and keep the Elven Island afloat. When Grom's shaman destroyed the Waystone he threatened to undue the vortex and sink Ulthuan.

>>54833188
Welp it's time to give the Chaos fags a paddlin as bad as the IoM and space marines got owned. Tau are going to kick ass as usual and stomp some daemon primarchs.

>>54833526
And that role is not crucial.

>>54833542
>he thinks NPCs will matter.

>>54833547
Not unless you want Abaddon to appear as a mary sue. Abaddon's rise must be explained with an insider's help.

>>54833554
Oh I'm getting ready to feast on your rage chaos fag. I hear your more whiney than space marine players when you lose.

>>54833562
Not really. Thats not how the term Mary Sue works and no, it wouldn't really make him so either.

Seriously, get over it. Bel'lakor was a shitty transplant that is not crucial or special.

>>54833577
>he thinks I'm a Chaos player.

Nids and Marines actually.

>>54833597
Expects me to believe his back tracking but blasted bullshit. Okay then faggot.

>>54833609
You're the faggot who assumed I was Chaos. What backtracking.

Nice try.

>>54833495

>We're fighting over a bunch of no-name Ultramarine worlds instead of Octarius

If only there was one fucking person at GW who liked Orks.

>Chaos ruins shit like the Octavius system because Chaosfags are that fucking pathetic they can#'t have anything in 40K not have some chaos gimp in the background.

>>54833597

if only you knew those nids and marines were Alpha Legionares in disguise.

No lore for DG and TS?

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What do Chaos soldiers and commanders do when they are not on a mission?
How fo they spend their downtime?

>>54833698
If the primarchs are any indication, they sit around and sulk

>>54833562
>Horus' First Captain and fierce leader
>Respected by other Traitor Marines
>Other Primarchs fucked off for millenia so they can't help
>Chaos needed someone to back

It's not hard. And it used to be, iirc, his position was somewhat tenuous with Huron's rise.

Having "insider" help makes him look like a bigger bitch, and ruins his whole "Horus was weak and Chaos is a tool" line.

>>54833714
>his position was somewhat tenuous with Huron's rise

FYI, Huron bent the knee to Abaddon in exchange for a Black Stone Fortress.

And not really. Abaddon knows about Be'lakor's manipulation and is using him as a tool just as much as Be''lakor is using Abaddon. Abaddon used daemons before, Be'lakor is no different in any regard other than being the most skilled among the daemons at planning things ahead.

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>>54833698

>Khornates

What's downtime?

>Nurglites

Extended sitting down to encourage new sores and lesions

>Tzeentchians

Reading

>Slaaneshis

Pic related

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>b-but that's not enough evidence
>belicuck is still my speshul husbando and only he gets to be undivided
>j-just wait till the daemknncodex comes out in a few months. You'll see, YOULL ALL SEE

where where you when Carnac experienced rectal ragnarok?
>

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>DRACH’NYEN

>Drach’nyen is an ancient entity of infinite malice – the cryptical seers of the Eye maintain that the creature was born from the first act of murder. The truth is lost in the mists of the Imperium’s prehistory, but the Daemon itself is still very much at large.

>The arcane blade borne by Abaddon contains the bound essence of Drach’nyen – indeed, some say that the sword is composed of nothing else, that it is a writhing warp entity in a different form. Whatever the truth, the blade can rend reality apart wherever it strikes; Drach’nyen rips through steel, flesh and bone like a hungry ghost, making a mockery of physical armour. It was the blade Drach’nyen which Abaddon used to hew open the gates of the Kromarch’s citadel, in doing so disrupting the nullification fields with which they were reinforcing the fabric of realspace. It was this same blade that Abaddon used to impale the Great Technomandrite of Danth, thereby sealing the fate of the anti-empyric Lemuel Cluster. Legend has it that those it slays have their souls consumed by the magic of the sword – the screaming faces of a thousand victims can still be seen twisting and churning within the blade even as it hacks down it next victims.

The text from the codex points at the new lore from MoM. Are you happy that ADB's work is getting a nod in the codexes?

And for fuck sake one of the legendary Technomandrites have fallen. When will the Necron abuse end?

>The Blackstone Pylons of Irradium Alpha

>Sent by Abaddon to blast apart the null-field megaliths of what seems to be a deserted world, the Word Bearers become embroiled in a grinding land battle when a self-repairing Canoptek swarm leads a Necron assault from under the planet’s surface. Only by summoning Daemons of Khorne with offerings of their own blood do the Word Bearers break free of the counter-attack and complete their mission.

The book is filled with mention after mention of Necron property damage.

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>>54832884
>After millennia of slaughter, the Night Lords warmonger Anvrex Rarth becomes disenchanted with indiscriminate violence. He vows to embody his Primarch’s early days, punishing only those whom he believes deserve it – but doing so with such
>grievous acts of retribution that none who hear of them dare stray from the path of righteousness. For a time, he finds a kind of peace, but his notions of morality are broken beyond repair. Within the year he is wreaking the most terrible of atrocities as a response to everything from the breaching of shipping contracts to the incorrect pronunciation of High Gothic.

Thats fucking fantastic

>>54833739
>Abaddon can hand out Blackstone fortresses like candy now


Jesus fuck.

>>54833755
>Traitor legion 7th ED dex comes out. Says Lorgar was elevated by the gods
>A year later, Index Chaos comes out says Be'lakor is unique among the daemon princes for not having a single master

And then here we are. We will play this game until the end of times which Be'lakor will usher by the way.

>>54833674
Dammit, cover blown.

>>54833126
>A bond of wary respect is forged between the two factions, ultimately leading to the invasion known as the Great Blood Wager of Anathema Quartus.

We need more stuff like this and that Night Lords guy

>>54833692
They're not in the book. They have their own codexes.

>>54833792
He has none, he gave one of two left.

>>54832228
Yeah but I mean why do they do all of this. Why get out of your way to just kill your brothers and other humans in a galaxy already full of war
I don't get it lads

>>54833798
And now 8th confirms multiple patrons for Lorgar.

Take the L.

>>54833415
t.newfag

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>THE TALON OF HORUS

>With this armoured claw Horus fought the Emperor of Mankind. It was this legendary artefact that strangled the Primarch Sanguinius, digging into the alabaster flesh of the Angel and spilling his rich red blood across the decking of the Vengeful Spirit.After the Warmaster Horus was defeated by the Emperor’s last stand, the Talon was torn from Horus’ armour by Abaddon. It has claimed unnumbered victims since; perhaps sustained by its own malevolence, it has never once seized up no matter how encrusted with blood and shattered bone it becomes.

>Over time the Talon of Horus has bonded to Abaddon body and soul; it is now fused to his own armour by its innate psychic energies. The claw incorporates a deadly combi-bolter as well as claws that crackle with potent disruption fields, but its import is far more than that of any mere weapon. The Talon is an icon of evil incarnate to the Imperium, especially the warriors of the Blood Angels, who to this day bear a psychic curse caused by its fell deeds. Their hatred rages strong even ten thousand years after their Primarch fell. In this way they echo those they despise, for hate is an emotion known to Abaddon better than any other.

If the Talon of Horus is fused to Abaddon's arm, then how the heck does Abaddon go on about his daily business?

>>54833820
So did 7th ED but what came after it said that only Be'lakor is unique among the daemons as having no single master being sworn to all of them.

So which one is it now? What is the truth?

>>54833832
With difficulty

>>54833841
That Lorgar is, as he always was, an undivided daemon prince and that Bel'lakor is an irrelevent afterthought.

>>54833774
>The book is filled with mention after mention of Necron property damage.
Necrons confirmed for new jobbers

I comped over all the interesting bits from the CSM codex. Proceeding to the Grey Knight dex.

>>54833886
I doubt the GKs will be as interesting though. When do they interact with anyone aside from daemons or have fun?

>>54833886
Was there nothing about renegade chapters or even the Red Corsairs?

>>54833841

Be'lakor is a daemon prince of Chaos Undivided. So is Lorgar, so is Perturabo. There's more than one. Case closed.

>>54833025
Khan is still in the webway, right? You think the Eldar (of any variety) would've found him by now

You >>54833906 and you >>54833854
see
>>54833469

>>54833940
Them not being common does not mean they aren't existant.

>>54833902
Nothing noteworthy. The only thing close to being interesting is that Huron mysteriously have been spotted in two different Segmentums at the same time.

>>54833954
Or it's more logical to say that there ever was one Undivided Daemon.

>>54832899
Fucking love it! Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6smi2wrGD40

>>54833984
No, Carnac, thats just you trying to protect your waifu.

>>54833739
You know, I find the idea of trying to pacify your greatest rival by giving them a really really big space gun questionable.

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>>54834028
Husbandu.

And his smile is worth protecting.

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>>54834043

Should I start a new thread for the Grey knights or dump it here?

>>54834035
>>54834069
Plenty of room here.

>>54833970
That's neat, I guess. Either he now has webway access or we Alpha Legion now.

Starting the Grey Knight dump. The text goes into detail about the Grey Knight founding and what Malcador did for them. The Grey Knights started a 8 marines some of them were from traitor legions. Can you name these 8?

Proceeding. The codex says that the Grey Knights are

1)Most skilled and powerful examples of the space marines.

Which raises the question why didn't they make more Grey Knights instead of Primaris marines.

2) Most technologically advanced of the marines.

3) Grey Knights are not autonomous. They are part of the Inquisition

Then we got further confirmation about the geneseed of the Grey Knights.

>Where the other Space Marine Chapters were built upon existing stock, the Grey Knights were born of a new gene-seed, one without the flaws of those that had gone before, and which carried the gift of the Emperor’s own flesh and soul.

>>54834135
>Which raises the question why didn't they make more Grey Knights instead of Primaris marines.

I imagine its harder to make Grey Knights, to say nothing of the fact you need psykers to use as base material

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Like daemon names, Grey Knight names have power too. In fact, Grey Knights are named after the daemons they are meant to slay. Which explains the confusion in Laurie Goulding's audiobook about the Morty fight.

>>54834153

How does the Grey Knight know what particular daemon he bears the name of? Do they tell him right off the bat or is it just a "you'll know when the time comes" kinda thing?

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>THE TERMINUS DECREE

>Deep within the Chambers of Purity, locked away in the chamber said to hold the tomb of the Sigillite himself, rests a simple wooden box, embellished with a golden seal. Within this box, written upon ancient parchment, is the instruction known only as the Terminus Decree. This artefact goes unrecorded in all the libraries of the Imperium, for it has been kept secret from all but the Supreme Grand Masters of the Chapter.

>Only a Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights knows how to open the box, and he will do so only when all hope for the future of Humanity seems lost. The Terminus Decree is the ultimate sanction of the Grey Knights, a secret so vast it could bring the Imperium to its knees, or save it in its darkest hour.

>The exact nature of the document is unknown, and the only clue to its contents lies in the box’s golden seal. It is whispered that it is the exact match of another seal, found only in one place in all the Imperium’s many scattered worlds: the Emperor’s Golden Throne.

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>>54834176
Prognosticars

The Grey Knight timeline is filled with nothing but old events from previous codexes and plain telling of the events of Fall of Cadia. Strangely, though, despite most of the past codexes events being mentioned the Bloodtide story wasn't in the codex....
Anyways here are the few interesting bits.

>Draigo and Mortarion

>With the Great Rift yawning open and pouring all manner of Chaos monstrosities into realspace, Lord Kaldor Draigo, Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights, finds he is able to escape his imprisonment in the warp more frequently and for greater lengths of time. Draigo materialises to aid his battle-brothers in multiple war zones across the Imperium, often turning grim defeat into a decisive victory for the Chapter. Though he quickly fades after each encounter, he imparts to the Grey Knights with whom he fights visions of things to come that he has witnessed within the immaterium. Many of the Prognosticars, seeing the strands of ancient hatred that bind the two together, believe that Draigo’s presence is inextricably linked to that of the Daemon Primarch Mortarion.

>>54834359
>The Way Forward

>With the Grey Knights forces stretched thinner than ever before, Kaldor Draigo appears to each of the Grand Masters and asks their counsel. For the first time in the Chapter’s history a particularly dire strategy is given consideration – the Terminus Decree.

Seriously, WHAT'S INSIDE THE BOX?

Pain

>>54834366
>WHAT'S INSIDE THE BOX?

Heres my guess: Some kind of anti Warp doomsday weapon, which would seperate realspace and Warpspace entirely; something that would effectively also destroy the Imperium.

>>54832228
Do I need the new CSM to play with the new dedath guard or should I wait for the DG codex?

>>54834359
>Strangely, though, despite most of the past codexes events being mentioned the Bloodtide story wasn't in the codex....

Thank god, it's better off having never existed

>>54834366
What if it's some kind of knowledge about an actual god in the traditional sense, like a universal creator sort of thing? That could simultaneously topple the Imperium because nobody would buy the Emperor being the one true lord, but it could also simultaneously save the Imperium because some followers of Chaos might be persuaded to abandon the ruinous powers in favor of a new, higher being

It's probably just where the emperor keeps his nine in case the chaos gods start frontin' too hard though

>>54834430
The only DG related thin in the book is the Plague Marines sheet.
I am certain you'd rather not buy an entire book just for a single datasheet.

>>54834366
>malcador wuz here
>horus is a shit
>also ur geneseed is from magnus dont tell emps

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Draigo's powerlevel received a boost.

>>54834439
Do you think I will need the CSM codex to get stats for rhinos and stuff?

>>54834463
Nah, all DG units will certainly be in their own book. So you'd still be better off waiting, at least just to confirm.

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What is a White Scar doing in the Grey Knight codex?

Grey Knights no longer just kill those who fight beside them. How practical.

>SERVITORS

>echmarines are assisted in their duties by a retinue of Servitors, mind-scoured cyborgs equipped with an array of industrial tools and heavy weapons. These gruesome retainers were once mortals. Many of those in the Grey Knights’ service fought in the armies of the Astra Militarum, until they were unfortunate enough to find themselves battling alongside the Grey Knights against some appalling empyrean incursion. Corruption cannot be risked, and so even those who survive such a hellish experience and emerge apparently mentally and physically intact cannot escape the clutches of the Inquisition. Most are simply executed en masse, though some are granted the honour of continuing to serve the Emperor, albeit in a lobotomised state of catatonia. The Grey Knights do not see this practice as morbid or distasteful. In their living death, Servitors continue the eternal struggle against the Dark Gods and their foul minions, far beyond the point at which a mortal soul would lose itself to madness or corruption.

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Rate the new fluff, teegee.

>>54834783
Average overall with some eyerolling bits mixed with occasional flashes of greatness.

So the same as the fluff since the beginning.

>>54832574
>Claiming that Abaddon 'artfully used misdirection to achieve his true objectives' is pure chaos fanwank posing as lore by GW

They've presented it that way in the Chaos Space Marine codexes for over a decade anon. You know memes better than you know lore.

>>54834783
I was only pretending to lose/10

some good, some bad, basically par for the course

>>54834783
Abaddon: 0//10
Night Lords: 9/10
Rest: meh/10

>>54833048
Be'Lakor ran from the Imperial Fists. Purt did not run. I believe it's at least implied canon that Purturabo is a Daemon Prince and Be'Lakor is not.

>>54834845
The AL is good too

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>>54834845
Khorne/World Eaters got a few good ones; oddly enough the bits that talked up how Wyches/Orks/Nids were worthy foes in particular

>>54834783
Alpha Legion, Night Lords and Iron Warriors still remain best traitors. Everything else is meh.

>>54834900
Khorne bringing back the dead to life including the xenos seems out of character.

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>>54834942

>Khorne providing eternal war is out of character

This is a well established part of Khorne anon.

>>54833744
>Chaosfags doing all this shite while Based Primaris Friends are painting up armies of Lamenters, Mordian Guard and Chapters of their own design that they then found.

Where were you when you realized Primaris Marines are /OUR GUYS/?

>>54833832
>We're tired of people calling him Armless, what should we do?
>I know, let's fuse his claw to his body permanently

>>54834956
>virgin heretics
>chad™ PRIMARIS™ SPACE MARINES™
The only person i've ever met who has said /ourguys/ was a raving alt-righter

>>54834942
Khorne has been doing that for ages.

>>54834984
You dont use /tv/ much do you?

>>54834056
To add to this, in Fantasy, Be'Lakor is last seen during the End Times, where he is trapped in a ruby and never seen again. Meaning he wasn't just killed by rocks, he died of becoming a mineral.

>>54832574
>retcon

This has been canon lore since fucking 3rd edition. The 12th crusade was to secure Drachnyen.

>>54834984
It's no surprise at all that altrighters use means IRL.

>>54835017
Nope, like how you use bullshit battle report of a random daemon prince, you lied about this one as well.

"End Times Archaon" says that Be'lakor would be set free with the destruction of the world. And the world was destroyed.

Be'lakor is mention among the daemon princes in AoS in the Grand Alliance Book.

Be'lakor haters when will they ever learn.

>>54835032
The 1st Crusade was about the sword.

The 12th Crusade as about those Blackstone Fortresses

>>54835052
Wrong. Read the lore.

>>54835080
I did. I have End Times Archaon right here with me. Please cite the page so I can check it for you.

>>54835052
Carnac, Be'lakor will never fuck you.

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>>54833048

>>54835108
>40k thread
>Fantasy lore

Don't mind me, just having some popcorn.

>>54835121
To my eternal regret and displeasure.

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The same that Salamander was doing in the Dark Angels, killing MOFOs and heretics.

>>54835181
It's anti-Be'lakors. They are just too triggered by him to behave.

>>54835251
Actually, the pro-Be'lakor guy did that first.
See
>>54833469
Speaking of which,
>40k thread
>Age of Sigmar campaign rules

>>54835251
Shush Carnac

>>54835288
Fuck, I didn't look at that properly.

Disregard my smug greentext, I'm drunk and need to go to bed.

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Has anyone read a novel from the Chaos side?
Do they even chat with each other? What about?

>>54833744
What do they read?

>>54835306
Different worlds. But its good, Shroud of Night. I'm really enjoying it.

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>>54835306
>Do they even chat with each other? What about?
I know there's a word bearers series, storm of iron, as well as several night lords books (by two different authors), but I've never really cared enough to check them out.

The execution force novel has a few chapters from the perspective of the sorcerer lord, sucking up to one of abaddon's lieutenants and capturing the imperial fortress. I thought it was interesting.

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>>54835251

>>54835288
Actually, see here >>54834056

Checkmate.

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Can someone share Black Legion novel by ADB?

Are there scans of the new dex?

>>54835759
>>54835711

In the general.

>>54835792
Can't find Black legion novel there.

>>54835759
Die poorfag

>>54835826
I am at work now. If I came back home and no one uploaded it, I will upload it

>>54835849
Thanks anon.

>>54834449
They ditched the "all his victories are hollow ones" thing too, I see.

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>>54835306
I see and sense a lack of religious-type decorations and customization by the Primaris Troops..
Please tell me they won't make them some 'atheist' liberals.

>>54835371
>"Eighty-eight million hours cannot contain my hatred."

lel

>>54833352
About fucking time Fabiulous Bill.

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>>54836216
Hardly anyone seemed to notice it anyway.

>>54836347
>normal Space Marines already notably don't believe the Emperor is a god aside from some fringe cases

>>54836408
This isn't a thread for Necrodermis deniers. Get out.

>>54836429
Don't make me embarrass you in your own thread now.

>>54836447
You'll only end up embarrassing yourself. Leave.

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>>54835658
>Links to post #54834056
>Thinks it comes earlier than post #54833469

Numbers don't lie, anon.

>>54836429
What? That's not Carnac-posting. The Space Marines largely don't see the Emperor as a God. The Black Templar are the biggest notable exception to this.

>>54836660
It's not about the Templar. I am just teasing him about some old and unrelated subject.

>>54836660
>That's not Carnac-posting.
Correct, I'm not, but the one you replied to is. If you think Carnac is the "Necrodermis denier", you've got it completely mixed up.

>>54835658
Anon that post says Be'Lakor was killed by rocks. I don't think it supports your argument.

>>54836757
It doesn't. The battle report doesn't name him as Be'lakor and it doesn't fit his lore which is 1) He cannot use warp portals 2) He phases through physical things if he sees them.

3) that post is random and isn't meant to support ant argument.

>>54834432
>YHWH gets inserted into the 40k universe

Chaos getting the Old Testament treatment would be pretty entertaining.

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>>54836408
I see. I guess I am biased because of the iconography and custom units I have seen.
I guess those are anyways like the Ultramarines who are cleaner looking. The 'official' army like the marines of the US.

But I am pulling those things out of my ass. I don't know half of what is going on. But I like 40K anyways.

>>54837797
Anyways it makes sense as the Primaris just came out of the 'factory'. Like they don't have battle experiences and stories to customize their armors accordingly.

I am sure in the future badasses will start etching their equipment and put seals and scrolls.

Apologies for bumping in the thread with non-heretical, Chaos posts.

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>>54834942
>including the xenos seems out of character.
>Who is Tuska Daemon-killa

I don't mean to sound like Carnac here, but do you even read the fluff?

>>54833250
>>54833356
>>54833495
>The Orks and 'Nids on Octarius are getting fuckhueg.
.... I was going to say that World Eaters are just going after the Nids since they're all from Leviathan and Chaos has a big grudge against that Hive Fleet (according to Carnac, who's cited Shadowbrink as the reason), but since the smallest is ONLY the size of a boulder...

Ghaz must be at least as big as the Goff-Beast from the Beast Arises series at this point.

No wonder the Tyranids haven't been able to nom Octarius in the last 112 years.
Am I annoyed that Chaos is shoving its dick where it doesn't belong? Yeah. But at least we got a glimpse into how bad the galactic meatgrinder's become since the Great Rift opened.

>>54838050
>Nids since they're all from Leviathan and Chaos has a big grudge against that Hive Fleet (according to Carnac, who's cited Shadowbrink as the reason), but since the smallest is ONLY the size of a boulder...

That skullhunt happened before Shadowbrink. Shadowbrink takes place in 999 41M. And it's daemons that hold a grudge.

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Do Chaos consider the Imperium as heresy?

>>54838050
>Am I annoyed that Chaos is shoving its dick where it doesn't belong?

It makes sense in this context, Khornates are going to want to go where the fighting is good. They're like orks like that.

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>>54837797
There is also the Chaplain, but even other Primarines still get purity seals and skull/bone dealies hanging over their thighs and crotches and such.

>>54838509
No, they self-identify as corrupted evil villains.

>Let no good deed go unpunished. Let no evil deed go unrewarded.
>Impurity shall be our armour
>Fear the taint

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>all of this lore of chaos champions doing atrocities on a whim or for incredibly petty reasons
some of this shit is somehow great, which is good as lore is the only possible thing 40k could have going for it at this point given the state of the game

>>54832644
I never put much stock in the "Armless Failure" meme, but I'd think Abaddon was fine with the 12 failed crusades. I mean, they were Pyrrhic victories for the Imperium, weren't they?
This "super secret objective" thing makes it pathetic.

Of course, if they hadn't just leaned on Abaddon being the "black crusade" guy so heavily and have other chaos characters do their own shit (a black crusade being a retroactive term, maybe?) they wouldn't have to retcon everything so obviously.

>>54832541
Lordy as a long time AL player I love this

>>54838934
This is nothing really. Have you read We are One and Truth is my Weapon?

>>54838982
Truth is my weapon is incoherent bullshit and I say that as an Alpha Legion fan.

Why not tell him to read Long Games At Carcharias if you want a short story that's actually fun?

>>54835857
any luck?

>>54839019
No.

>>54839019
>>54835857

Seconded, I need my ADB fix

>>54835849
>I am at work now.
>Saturday
Same here anon. What's your profession?

>>54839110
IT. Shifts.

>>54839181
That bad huh? And I thought engineering is the worst affected by the demand.

>>54839239
Not really. Weekend shifts usually have little actual work. I have freetime to "shitpost" on 4chins for hours.

>>54835108
So where is Be'lakor now?

Archaon is literally the 5th chaos god now and we see no Archaon.

>>54839463
See no Archaon? You mean see no Be'lakor, right? Be'lakor hasn't made an appearance yet but I suspect he will in Season 2 when they explore the Realm of Shadow.

>>54839486
Realm of Shadow is literally Slaanesh vs Malerion though.

It goes Chaos god + Realm until we get to beasts I reckon.

>Khorne and Fire
>Nurgle and Life
>Tzeetch and Metal

Season 2 will 100% be the quest for Slaanesh. I hope rumours are a little true and Slaanesh is missing on purpose too.

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>>54838787
>12 failed crusades

While people are free to think that the galaxy's pylons being his goal all along is a giant asspull (about on the same level as the revelation that Guilliman was secretly brewing a new generation of SUPER SPACE MARINES all along - or, some might say, the fluff that introduced the pylons to begin with), it was established right from the get-go that Abaddon's crusades varied significantly in scope. Clearly they weren't just repeated failed attempts to topple the Imperium once and for all or whatever when some only consisted of a few hundred guys.

>>54838787
Given that the ship already sailed on the Crusades being Pyrrhic Imperial Victories, I'll definitely take 'slowly weakening the pylons over ten thousand years' over 'various random secret objectives that were totally important I swear!'
Like, this is definitely an improvement over what we previously had.
Agree that maybe having other Chaos characters be proactive would've been nice.

>>54839669
I think the issue inately stems from the thematic shift Chaos Space marines have gotten.

I prefered it when Chaos was warring warbands who pillaged and burned over the "We're super competent united legions" aspect.

>>54839709
So basically, you prefer space hobos and pirates over legions of fallen angels from the darkest period of human history?

>>54839723
Yes.

It felt better that chaos was not the problem of the Imperium, merely exploiting it's weakness.

Personal Glory and the laughter of Dark gods over big plans of dominance.

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>>54839709
>I prefered it when Chaos was warring warbands who pillaged and burned over the "We're super competent united legions" aspect.

They shifted from the latter to the former and people spent 10 years being mad about it.

>>54839776
Pretty much. When they set chaos up as the "main" villain instead of merely another aspect of the rotten and grimdark universe, it just made them a little less of what they were.

Chaotic.

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>Magnus vs. Russ, round 2

>Guilliman vs. Mortarion

>Lion vs. Angron

>Dorn vs. Perturabo, round 2

>Sanguinor vs. Lorgar?

40k is fucking ramping up, boys. I cannot wait.

>>54839803
>Pretty much.

You realise you're not agreeing, right?

>>54836789
>The battle report doesn't name him as Be'lakor

It's hardly necessary. Everyone knows Be'Lakor's famous short daemon prince model. It's one of the best GW has done.

>it doesn't fit his lore which is 1) He cannot use warp portals 2) He phases through physical things if he sees them.

Well that's in conflict with this White Dwarf article which clearly shows him using a warp portal and failing to phase through rocks. Can you provide visual evidence of the supposed lore that you're referencing?

Perhaps the obvious explanation for why he didn't dodge the rocks is that Be'Lakor was feeling size-related shame and wanted to die.

>>54840672
>size-related shame and wanted to die.
>"Even these stupid sub-creature dinosaur brutes are taller than I am...My life is a joke"

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>>54840672

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>>54840672
>It's hardly necessary.

It is. Because the daemon is not named. Be'lakor isn't just some daemon. It's like having Archaon in battle report and calling him a Chaos Lord.

Also that was back then before they released the new generic daemon prince model. The old one locked crappy. Not fit for a promtional battle report.

>clearly shows him using a warp portal

Which he can't according to his battlescrol and picture related. He can only enter reality when summoned by a mortal.

>Can you provide visual evidence of the supposed lore that you're referencing?

As for the phasing stuff. Go to the archives and write "Be'lakor Phase". You will find dozen of examples I already posted.

Don't try. Better than you tried and failed.

>>54841784
I can't find any other examples of Be'Lakor or any other special character being used as a generic character without it being made clear. Reading this I think my theory about Be'Lakor being too short to live is the best way to square this contradiction in the fluff. He chose to die by rocks.

>>54834783
World Eaters, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, and Iron Warriors all had some cool bits.

Rest seem kind of meh, though the slaanesh stuff seemed kind of fun too.

>>54841874
That's on you not me.

Be'lakor has no shape or form. He can alter his size and make copies of himself. So the height thing makes isn't funny considering shadows can be as huge as they want.

>>54836347
Many of them were put into the primaris process before the Imperial Cult even existed. These guys are pretty confused about the whole "Emps is a god thing". There's a fun bit in one of the newer bits where a Primaris captain is walking around a shrine world and wondering what the fuck happened to the imperium.

>>54834942
He does it all the time, go look at Tuska.

>>54833099
Hate Belakor fags, theyre the worst of the chaosfags

GK stuff boring as expected

>>54833469
... You do realize that the game existed before 2012, right? And that up until fairly recently it was possible to take daemon princes in both settings without god affiliations, right?

And that "all daemon princes are raised by a particular god" is itself a retcon.

>>54844192
one unit made into an army
its boring
no shit

So no Black legion novel yet?

>>54832761
Woooo, Mentors! We got mentioned!

>>54833188
Fuckin metal. I'm going to need that skull kit GW talked about.

>>54846893
They could've atleast tried like they did with CSM. Something about them crushing some CSMs or cocky Eldar like no marine could

>>54848041
To clarify, obvious they are daemonhunters and not trash cleaners. Some Eldar/Deldar start shit with while they're doing stuff and get creamed

>>54842833
>fags
>s

>>54842833
It's literally just Carnac. I don't know why he's trying to act like Belicuck is a badass, he spends the ending of endtimes getting dragged around in chains and then locked in alarielles ruby. SAD!

>Abaddon artfully used misdirection and obfuscation to achieve his true objectives while the Imperium and Eldar were clueless.

What fucking stupid writing.

>>54833832
>then how the heck does Abaddon go on about his daily business?

Daemon Underwear.

>Chaos codex lore notes a hundred grand victories after the fall of Cadia and an Imperium already in its death throes
>Guilliman restores order to the Imperium over 100 years anyway

I guess the Unnumbered Sons were too much to handle for the traitors.

>>54850834
Actually, the 8th ED rulebook says that humanity is on the brink of extinction. The fight being more desperate than it ever was before.

>>54850594
I acknowledge, always did, that Be'lakor is a fuckup. Nut he is a lovable fuck up and great villain. Name a better villain in WHFB? You can't because he was selected as NUMBER 1!

>>54850857
I'm not sure why anyone cares anymore if GW is just going to pull a "let's wank off Chaos" and have an outcome where Chaos wins unstoppably so because they're just so darn strong and edgy and you can't do anything about it because "we're GW and we hate every single other faction to the core".

>>54850892
Dude, we are stuck in a new status quo that will last decades. It's just that Chaos is now more threatening than before and can attack anywhere it pleases.

>>54850892
>GW is just going to pull a "let's wank off Chaos" and have an outcome where Chaos wins unstoppably so because they're just so darn strong and edgy and you can't do anything about it because "we're GW and we hate every single other faction to the core".
Pretty much exhibits A & B for why the Fate of Konor campaign has been so decidedly anti-Chaos. Sure the fact the Space Marines had their codex first didn't help, but the fact that Xenos have overwhelming sided AGAINST Chaos so far is rather telling.

>>54833188
>skull hunt of Octarius
BASED
we better get a campaign of this war zone, it's one of the few that actually makes sense for most of the factions to be fighting over

>>54832402
>gets fucking lost and ends up in the middle of a waaagh, has to run away
>fufufufu~ just according to keikaku!

Even if they're going to retcon an elaborate plan can't they just admit some crusades didn't really work out?

>>54852815
Abaddon's main goal in the Crusades is hunt down pylons and weaken the walls of reality through any means possible. Though, it wasn't in way that he originally intended, Abaddon did use the Orks to achieve his objective.

A mark of a good commander is being able to adapt to unforeseen events and use them to his advantage. Abaddon did just hat.

>>54850857
Funny, given how Chaos got its shit pushed in on Konor. GW's just going to have to wank it even harder to try and make it sound like a victory for them or at least a stalemate, which will only annoy the xenos players even further.

>>54852896
Dude, Konor is just a single system. It's filler for Ultramar Round 2. Ultimately, it won't matter in the narrative so GW can write them as stunning victories for the Imperium.

Look at the results of the Seasons of War where the Order side crushed all other factions Death, Destruction, and Chaos. GW made the result fluff seem glorious for the Order side. With the Order side in one city blasting Chaos forces out of the city with massed gunpower and magical lazers.

>>54834178
it contains instructions on how to turn GKs / mortal humans into daemons of the Emprah

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>>54852440
>Octarian War won by Imperium
All's well that ends well.

>>54841952
Still dies to rocks. And loves to fucking himself up as he is partly Slaanesh and Tzeentch.

Belacuck can never win. Because his masters arte not able to want to.

>>54853543
>That last two parts.
>Also the part on the next page about the fighting spreading out.

Orks and Nids are in heaven.

>>54841784
Do you have any source om that this was the actual intention?

>>54853755
>Still dies to rocks.

Nope.

Be'lakor did win though. His prophecy did come to pass but he gained nothing front it except his freedom from Tzeentch's curse and the Everchosen duty.

>>54853829
Do you any source that it says it's Be'lakor? Unnamed daemon using a portal and being smacked by physical things discounts him from being Be'lakor.

>>54853844
from it*

>>54853852
Take the L, Carnac, just like Bel'lakor did.

>>54834178

Orders to unplug the Throne, allowing the Emperor's body to die, and be reborn.

>>54853844
>Freedom from Tzeentch
You realize that's the god of plotting? Belacuck is partly Tzeentch thus any freedom he has is Tzeentch plotting against himself.

>>54853852
If it looks like a Be'lakor and jobs like a Be'lakor, it has to be a Be'lakor.

>if chaos wins, they win because they always wins!
>if chaos loses, they win because it's part of their plan!
>why aren't you guys playing chaos yet?
>what do you mean you """like""" other factions? are you dumb? chaos always wins!
-Games Workshop and Black Library writers

>>54856462
Its not grimdark if humanity can actually win, you fucking idiot. 40K has ALWAYS been a long defeat.

>>54855657
No, that would be the Changeling. Who took the form of Be'lakor but wasn't able to replicate Be'lakor's phasing ability. Read the first chapter of the second Archaon book.

>>54855028
In your dreams.

>>54855481
Freedom from his curse that he unjustly placed on Be'lakor. In Albion and the final book of Botrek he removed it or most of it.

And you missed a important aspect about Be'lakor. The Chaos Gods cannot control him directly. At best they can subtly whisper in his ears and manipulate his jealousy.

And there is another thing. Among the Changeling's many tasks is to act as the mirror of Be'lakor. Studying him and investigating his plans by taking his form so that Tzeentch would know the best way to thwart Be'lakor's plans. Indeed, Tzeentch has a sick pleasure in seeing Be'lakor plans come to ruin.

>>54856980
Unless we have some commentary from the devs, I just can't trust your opinion on this subject.

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>>54856980
SCALED

>>54856691
But that's wrong, you fucking retard.

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>>54857030
Then trust facts. Be'lakor only entry into reality is through summoning. And he can phase through physical attacks provided that he sees/detects them.

That daemon entered reality through a portal and was bodily dragged by rocks to the ground which wouldn't happen to Be'lakor since he has no shape or form.

>>54857090
It's right though.

>>54857036
Go away, lizard. You are Seraphon now.

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>>54857113
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>54857290
NOT CANON

>>54857095
There is just too much doubt involved for anything conclusive.

>>54857449
There isn't. No one can deny the portals and phasers.

>>54857480
Your facts are just not solid enough to convince me. You need to gather more research data.

>>54857520
No more data needed. If you are not convinced then it cannot be helped.

>>54857536
Then you simply do not have a strong enough base for your claim. I'm sorry.

>>54857546
That's you being dishonest to attempt to bait me. So it's on you. But don't worry, I know that you know that I know you know that you are wrong.

>>54857588
Believe what you need to believe if it helps you sleep at night. This is not really an important controversy.

>>54857772
Shhh....the last word will be mine

>>54857936
This is not helping the integrity of your argument.

>>54857953
There is no need. It's been made and if you can not poke any holes in it, then it's your failure. Now the last word if you please.

>>54858025
Solid facts doesn't exist in Warhammer lore. GW overwrites most material every 5-10 year.

>>54859055
GW hasn't rewrote Be'lakor's lore yet. "You speak irrelevancies ".

>>54859390
Be'lakor also literally didn't use to be a thing until he was introduced in Mordheim in 1999. Some people would consider such a character insertion into a fully fleshed out setting to be a huge asspull.