Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

First for ruining first

New CSM and GK codex link might be here

https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

Should I put 10 shoota boyz or 5 big choppa nobs in a squiggoth?

>>54829600
Not yet, apparently.

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Will he come back?

>>54829835

What part of
>LIVES
do you not understand?

>>54829835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEZvChBy-sQ

Best way to run bullogryns slabshields and mauls look so badass.

also, ground transport or Valkyrie?

Have Chapters gotten a higher limit than 1,000 Marines because of the Primaris influx? Plenty of Chapters were doing well beforehand and some must be over a 1,000 now because of Primaris Marines.

>>54830117
No, but companies can now have squads made out of five guys. Which gives you room for more squads. And reserve company squads can be absorbed into excisting companies per warzone or captains preference.

Why the fuck are there 3, 40k gens right now? jesus people.

>>54829998
Maul and Slab are best. If you want, mixing in a Bruteshield or two is pretty solid too.

3 Ways to run them in my opinion. Squad of 6 walking with an Astropath nearby to cast +1 saving through spell. 4 in a Chimera. Or 4 in a Valkyrie. When you run them in a Chimera/Valkyrie, have other units pushing forward too or have units deepstriking in. Multiple transports pushing forward supported by Conscript blobs, artillery and deep striking Scions gives them lots of targets to choose from.

My personal plan with my list is to have 4 in a Valkyrie fly up to dump off Bullgryn, Celestine double moving with faith, Eversor arriving, Inquisitor with Terminator Armor deepstriking and using Terrify to stop Overwatch, multiple squads of Scions deepstriking in then have all of them charge. Meanwhile Conscripts and other units rush up while artillery stays back.

If I play my Lord of Contagion as a Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor do I still get disgustingly resilient? I am using him to harass backline units after teleporting in.

>>54830117

A whole lot of them were below full strength given how much fucking bullshit spilled out of the Great Rift and the ensuing warp storms. A whole bunch of Chapters were wiped out entirely, though so far GW has only deigned to name the "literally who" Chapter of the Sky Sentinels as one such example.

Also a whole bunch were created to fill in the dead Fortress Monasteries of these dead Chapters, or formed into new Chapters in their own right.

Black Templars are back up to 6k+ strength, however, given recent re-retcons about their constant crusading fleets.

Still, a lot of original Chapters have organized their Primaris into 11-13th companies, though I'm not sure how Chapter organization goes for all-Primaris Chapters, consider Guilliman is revising his own book.

>>54830163

DEAL WITH IT NERD

*spread legs across bench and starts vibrating*

We must concentrate on sending in all soul grinders blazing. Get it together, chaos!

>>54830117

1000 Marines has always been more of a guideline than a strict rule. Consider the following example:

Chapter X sends out 5 Companies on Crusade but they never hear from them again. A thousand years pass and Chapter X has rebuilt and replaced all missing 500 marines and are now at full strength.

But wait! Because of warp shenanigans the original 500 finally return, for them only a couple of months have passed in the Warp.

So what does the Chapter do? Execute 500 marines to get to 1000?

1000 is the goal but the demands of war mean the number will always be in flux. It takes concerted number building to make the Inquisition nervous.

>>54830185
Source for 11th and 13th companies? Got the codex for info on new organization and it's disappointingly brief on the subject.

>>54830207
>Execute 500 marines to get to 1000?

HALFCIMATION

>>54830207
500 marines might be enough to found a new chapter.

>>54829600
Don't play with my heart like that anon

>>54829653
10 tankbustas

>>54830213

It's mostly listed on their shoulderpads on the new markings.

Yeah, they're pretty brief on these new marines. We know that old Chapters have been organizing them into new companies, that Primaris have three extra geneseed organs, and that changes have been made to the Codex Astartes. But outside of that, there's no info on those changes. We have no idea what Cawl's new organs do, no info on how even new Primaris Chapters are organized, and no inkling as to what's changed about the Codex Astartes.

Will thy ever go back and make actual biker hq models? Or are gw moving away from bikes

>>54830262
I believe those are new squad markings not company.

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Post your fully painted armies

You do have a fully painted army, right?

>>54830266
Who knows, they might come up with Primaris Jetbikes for all we know.

>>54830226

Ive actually got an idea where a 3rd founding UM chapter sends out most of the chapter on crusade where they get lost in the warp for thousands of years.

When they return their chapter has gone full Mortificators/codex divergent. Out of disgust the original crusaders spin off to found their own chapter.

>>54830117
Asking a follow-up question:
Would the (inevitable) next Loyalist Primarch GW releases like El'Jonsen or Russ tell the Chapters to try to grow into Legions?

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leave chaos to me

>>54830288
>he actually plays 40k

I dont think theyre going to release any more loyalist primarchs. theyve build guilliman up to being the big saviour and any others would just steal his limelight

>>54830288
>orks
doesnt really count, does it?

>>54830374
DEAD SHOT HEAD SHOT OH MY GOD AM I CRAZY

>>54829835
When they said he was black, they meant "like the void," not like Africans.

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>>54830288
Still have ton of shit unbox and yet I can't stop buying.
Send halp !!

>>54830390
How does that not count

if anything it counts more because youve got to paint like 10 times the models

>>54830185
>Black Templars are back up to 6k+ strength, however, given recent re-retcons about their constant crusading fleets.
aww yeah

>>54829600
You are worse than Hitler.

Cost increase for GK terminators. Can someone sell me on them?

>>54830440
they don't really count as an army

>>54830414
>bobby G looking around like he just realized he's fighting with the wrong chapter

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>>54830262
New organs were in the codex.

>>54830460

Ah, there they are.

I didn't know they were Ecuadorian, though.

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>>54828208

Old Thread:

>>54828153
>>54828153
>>54828153

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>>54830288

>>54829835
so will it be him, russ, or the lion who saves Guilliman from getting his bootyhole ravaged on Konor?

>>54830455
>they don't really count as an army
Retard

>>54830288
I have a lot of random pieces I added the past few months, but someday I will post all that I currently have painted, which is enough for an army.

>>54830412

fuck off you /pol/shit retard

Breaking news about the chaos codex, on page 29 it says the most experienced of the alpha legion are specialists in the arts of the infil-traitor.
Please laugh.

>>54830486
/pol/ is a board of peace

>>54830327
That makes sense, can't waste marines. I like chapters like the doom eagles, mortifactors, and death spectres. I say get to painting.

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Could someone recommend me a simple and nice looking white/ice/snow base for my Wolves? I'm pretty new to painting and not all that great. I was kinda thinking of a plain white base with blue lines to represent cracks in the ice but I'm not sure

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>>54830482

>>54830502
good lord..

>>54830502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67IOg4HqQ0

>>54830502

http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/43463-tutorial-creating-ice-bases/

Also GW's snow Technical Paint is pretty good for snow.

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>>54830490
post proofs

>>54830502
https://youtu.be/iHWo8RG1NuY

>>54830503
Cute dog in a wall, don't get what you're trying to convey here.

>>54830502
Nulin Oil is your lord and savior. Someone will prolly hook you up with some tutorials good luck with your dudes guy!

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>>54830502
If you can afford it GW makes a very nice artifical snow "paint" for basing. It's fairly foolproof. Just paint the top of your base white, slather this stuff on, and paint the rim black and you'll have a nice good looking snow base.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Texture-Valhallan-Blizzard-24ML

>>54830512
Don't do this, baking soda goes yellow over time, just use GW flock with this method.

lulz, go to the Warhammer 40k Lexicanum

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Erebus

>>54830475
>tfw dirty phone poster

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>>54830502
Easiest way to do a good snow base:
>buy snow flock, it's in almost every single hobby store
>mix snow flock, elmer's glue and a bit of water in a container til it's thick. The thicker the better but this is up to taste at this point. Use a stirring stick or brush you don't give a shit about.
>don't use all your flock at once, dipshit
>use said stirring stick/brush to spread the snow flock/glue mixture over the base, being as uneven and "natural" as you can.
>sprinkle some dried snow flock over the drying mixture - this is why I told you to hang onto it
End result should be close to pic related.

snow base guy here, thanks for all the advice

all my marines are already based, can I still get some texture into the base easily without swamping the minis? i was thinking maybe one of the gw textures then drybrushing them white and light grey then adding a bit of snow

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>reading Dark Imperium
>it's a Varens chapter

>>54830442
Most people are worse than Hitler

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>>54830117
Would it be too drastic to imagine that with the addiction of Primaris marines to First Founding chapters, that they could get permission to form new Chapters, drawn from the primaris and older Veterans? If Ultras, Fist, and DAngles are keeping in contact with their successors, others would follow suit right?

Heres hoping that (!)Legion days are back!

>>54830629
Yeah. it's easy to add GW texture to minis that are already glued down. If you get the finer grained paints, e.g. Armageddon Dust rather than Armageddon Dunes, you can apply it pretty thin around their feet.

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>>54830288

sadly, it will probably never be fully painted

>>54830502
I painted better than this when I was 13.

How good are Scions compared to Veterans, point-for-point?

>>54830486
He's right though?

>>54830262
>>54830213
>>54830117
Its simple friend.

>the thousand marine limit only applies to regular astartes
>just file primaris as auxiliary forces
Boom instant legions of nu-sue marines.

>>54830176
Unfortunately not, although models with the DEATH GUARD <Legion> will probably get Disgusting Resilient when the Codex drops.

>>54830629
I prefer to do it that way with bases, since as I go for a dried mud/desert look getting a few little specks of mud on legs and robe hems and stuff looks good, and you don't have the problem where you glue the mini to the texture thus making it fall off all the time.

>>54830735
Shhh shhh, he can't handle anything that threatens his egalitarian sensibilities. Let him screech in peace.

>>54830717
>4 superheavy tanks a knight and a marauder
for what purpose?

>>54830719
bully for you

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One of my friends says that Power Levels are fine to use because they balance out in the long run and it's autistic to try to calculate every single pistol. My other friend says using points balances the game and is worth the extra time.

What do you guys think?

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>>54830663

>>54830776
Power is better for friendly games imo. As a lorefag I'm not a fan of autistically counting every last piece of wargear. But my FLGS are matchedfags so I just have to play along.

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>NOT fully painting your army
I feel dirty still that only half my shit is actually based.

I'll have closer pics in a second

>>54830776
I think you should use Power Levels with one friend and Points with the other.

>>54830719
Damn son sucks you gotta go back to school soon! How's middle school in 2017 anyway?

>>54830776
Sure Id use power levels if I were a dumb faggot
t. Not a dumb faggot

>>54830776
Points are worthwhile if you care about balance. If you're just playing for fun and aren't bothered about the occasional lopsided game that will crop up, power levels are faster and easier. It comes down to what you want.

>>54830717
I like you

>>54830796
DELDAR MASTER RACE

>>54830752
if you had to choose between term chaos lord and basic chaos lord with a jet pack, which would you use to harass backline units? I just need some distractions for typhus and the boys to get close enough for a charge

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>>54830288

>>54830559
Not the guy who first asked, but I was thinking of snow bases for a force later. I'll have to get some of this shit.

>>54830796
Nice BEES anon.

>>54830799
You'll get better eventually my dear autistic thickpaint friend. Try watching some of Duncan's videos, they help a lot.

>>54830824
I don't play or paint space wolves bb.

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>>54830185

Which chapter has more marines, Black Templars or Dark Angels?

I remember both being rumored to have at least 5k.

>>54830368
It doesn't mention pert or dorn at all or the name "the iron cage" but it does downplay the contribution of the imperial fists to "supporting the ultramarines".

Of course it does. All of 8th ed 40k is "supporting the ultramarines".

>>54830814
luckily you can have one detachment of nurgle and another detachment of alpha legion with a chaos lord w/jetpack accompanied by khorne bezerkers or raptors

>>54830796

I'm slowly working on my Night Lords, man. I have a lot of shit to catch up.

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>>54830815
Brother it would seem that someone summoned a bunch of daemons in your midst!

>>54830838
I think the Black Templars do, because they're constantly recruiting.

>>54830325

That was a different story. Wasn't the scar from the one where she issued a challenge to bring her arena fights and the best one revived a prize. The one brought some monster and it cut her. After she killed it, the guy asked for his reward and she murdered the shit out of him saying death by her hands was the best reward because she was pissy about getting cut.

The Champion was when I think it was Corsairs counter raided a raid and fucked up something major, so Vect and Lelith personally led a raid into his fortress, murdered their way to his quarters and Lelith challenged him to a duel, which is when she cut off all his limbs and Vect mounted him to his wall.

Cypher can summon daemons again! At least until codex CSM errata comes out, he doesn't have the rule that was added by errata to his index version saying no daemon summoning.

>>54830838
BT technically have more marines than the DA chapter. The DA thing comes from the fact they keep closer than usual ties with their successors who basically do what they're told and act as extensions of the DA

>>54830840
It mentions Olympia which isn't where the Iron Cage was. It's a separate thing entirely.

>>54830848
maybe in the future, but atm I just have enough units to make a 1k DG army. I have some bigger stuff in the mail, and I would enjoy some bezerkers, but I kind of feel like I want to just run nurgle demons/DG for my first 2k pt army

>>54830815

Hey, I remember you working on those. They look great, but I still think the blue is a little bright. I prefer the darker midnight, personally.

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Why does no one sell the Tau Commander for more than 15% off. Even sites that claim 20% aren't doing that. It's not a web exclusive and isn't that rare. Can't even find it for 25% on eBay.

>>54830885

Because it's the turbo cheese right now.

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>>54830815
I was going to chastise you about the poxwalkers in your Night Lords force but this is just too much.

>>54830885
Because it's the new Tau super unit.

>>54830717
>That air wing

So sexy. I'd probably have picked Scions as my army if they weren't so damn boring compared to a lot of dexes and armies in terms of variety and aesthetics, since they suit my tastes in strategy down to the ground. As is I rejoice in spider tanks and bemoan my lack of dropships and gunboats to pull tin man Landing at Point Rain with. Huge flying bases shooting many many guns in every direction like the Stormbird or Manta are my ideal Lord of War.

>>54830895

COMBICOMBIBOLTER

>>54830885
Demand is really high with 8th. They probably don't need to discount that much to move inventory.

>>54830838
DA are chapter sized, if you mean the Unforgiven then that would be 10-20k marines agaisnt the highest estimates of 6k+ Black Templars.

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Think you can handle this much woman?

>>54830904
>C-C-C-COMBI-BOLTER

>>54830838
Technically speaking DAngels as a single chapter only have 1K. But because they basically treat their successors as an extension they likely have several tens of thousands of marines under their command

>>54830915
>3.48 MB
>out of focus

>>54830915
T-THICC

>>54830930
amazing

>>54830904
>"You see, Gaelos, when I attach the other bolter to combi-bolter, we shoot three times the bullets, yes?"

Which faq is faq 1.0
I was on the 1d4chan article on elysians and it said that officer of the fleet affects all <elysian> units not just <aeronautica imperialis> now, was wondering where it said that

>>54830915
That is so out of focus i thought it was a daemonette till i saw the filename.

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>>54830288
Yeppers!

>>54830572
Baking soda for snow basing is like STD, people ignore and don't care about your warning until they catch one.

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>>54830288
Just finished it not too long ago, now i need to decide whether to expand upon it or start a new army

>>54830915
lol what an egghead

>>54830953

So, what you're saying is, we should be painting with condoms?

>>54830729
>Scions
10 points
Hotshot lasguns
Can deepstrike
4+ Save
Can take Taurox Prime
2 special weapons per 5 Scions
Have access to Hotshot volley guns
Troops
>Veterans
6 points
Lasguns or Shotguns
5+ save
3 Specials, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Heavy Weapon
Can take Snipers
Elites

Both have quite a bit of firepower. I think over all, Scions are more flexible, better and give you access to more Command Points. While Veterans have more variety in their firepower, hotshot lasguns make up for that. -2AP is very strong, even on S3. The biggest drawback to Scions is that when they deepstrike, they can't rapid fire their guns as they are just more than 9 inches. They also don't have as much range as Veterans, but obviously deep striking makes up for that.

The way things are now, Scions and Conscripts have really good synergy together. One provides a tough to kill ground force that still puts out a lot of shots, the other helps with mobility and hits hard. Both are very cheap for what they can do. Veterans can't sync up as well because they need transports which adds up quickly. Scions also tend to be better in transports because then they get to make full use of their hotshot lasguns when they hop out. Plus, their transport can put a ton of weapons on it that make up for the lack of heavy weapons they can carry. Not to mention the transport itself has BS3+.

>>54830781

Uhhh Curze is a hyper-violent and haunted vigilante who accepted death as a fuck you to the old man, who he hated. He's compared to Batman all the time, but the much better comparison is Rorschach.

Corvus is a mysterious but well-meaning freedom fighter and stealthmans revolutionary who can sometimes get really mad.

>>54830970
What chapter are those? The CNT-FAI?

>>54830776
For games I've prearranged or prepared for or against people who I know tend to play pretty hardball, obviously no reason not to use points. When I'm just at the store and a newbie asks me to play his Orks, 50pl is less of a faff than 1kpts to work out right there before someone takes the empty table.

>>54830288
That bust isn't even fucking basecoated.

>>54830976
No it mean you should stay the fuck away from it. having condom does not make you immune, and it fall into the "ignore and don't care" as I mentioned.

>>54830946
You'll want the Forgeworld AM FAW for Elysian stuff.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Imperial-Armour-Index-Astra-Militarum-2017

>>54830895

Yea I';m not happy with that unit in general. The tartaros looks awful, IMO.

The combi-combi-bolter-melta I was doing just because I was worried I would meet some WYSIWYG assholes at a tournament and I didn't want to shell out of 5 bucks for a fucking single combi-melta on the internet.

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>>54830951
>ambush on parade formation playtype with civilians as obstacles/objectives
fund it

>>54830885
It's one of the like four good Tau units right now, and damn good at that. I'd guess the WAAC bandwagoners from 7th that don't want to invest in a full new army or deal with the fact that Tau are meh right now are instead looking to hop on the new cheese.

>>54831006
bruh I already have the index, I was asking for the officer of the fleet ability affecting all elysian units FAQ that was released after the index came out

>>54830884

Thanks. Yea I'm trying to work on a formula to keep it a little darker.

>Only change to the fallen is they can take heavy weapons
Eh. Are any of the heavy weapons worthwhile? Autocannon maybe?

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>>54830915

>>54830304
fok off evan

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>>54830559
>>54830816
stuff is expensive but it looks great

Should be noted that all the texture paints are good for armies that you're going to be transporting as the stuff dries to a pretty durable consistency that wont flake off easily

>>54830970

I think you need better lighting to do these guys proper justice. I can tell they're well painted but the light IS SUCKING A DICK

>>54831030
Bruh The FAQ is linked on that page . Bruh.

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>>54830769

apocalypse, mostly

>>54830986
Curze did the Primarch equivalent of slitting his wrists in the bathtub but somehow Corax managed to have an even more emo death by quoting Edgar Allen Poe like an edgy teen.

>>54830502
Since it already looks like you're using cum, I would say just use more cum.

>>54831040
For a stripped down version of her I'd almost suggest just putting her head on the big tittied assassin model the imperium has.

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>>54830988
Sons of Ymir, a homebrew chapter of my making

>>54831052
Im stuck with a phone since my camera somehow broke while it was in storage, I tried to put together a shitty lightbox to help somewhat but these individual shots are the best I can do

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Rolled 7 (1d9)

Rolling a dice and going from left to right.

>>54830502
Crushed glass layered with water effects for half-melted ice is GOAT.

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>>54831082

>>54831079
Well i guess those ancoms are mortal enemies of the ancaps in >>54831014

>>54830735
Salamanders were actually negroid black at one point, but the march of canon and retcons has changed that.

>>54830717
I noticed a distinct lack of Bullgryn.

>>54830776
PL is fine for casual "hey man wanna have a match" games.

Points are better for serious business tournament stuff; PL CAN work there but you have to understand that it skews the balance even if you assume everyone is going to take the best upgrades on everything.

>>54831103
>Salamanders were actually negroid black at one point
No they weren't. Originally they were white and then an article in white dwarf showed one painted like an African and another Caucasion. They were never an African chapter.

>>54831140
WE

WUZ

SAMALANDRERS!

>>54830863
>some monster
You mean Captain Cadulon of the Iron Knights, the Saint of Blades?

>>54831012

If you're that anal about putting together a combi melta that looks like it belongs there, you could have gotten a matching combi half off Shapeways for under $20.

>>54831032

Honestly, Kantor washed with Nuln is perfect. That's what I do anymore.

WHERE ARE MY CODEX SCANS FAGGOTS

>>54831165

Yes. That. Wow.

>>54831103
>>54831140
Ahh this old gem how does this conversation end up the same every damn time? Secondly who gives a shit? Helmets are far superior to skin showing.

>>54830742
I am "founding" a chapter of new marines. I just refer to them as adeptus astartes. Rip off the bandaid my man, marines are tall now.

>>54830924

It remains to be seen if all their successors will return to central command under the precondition of the Lion's return. One chapter is more or less known to give no fucks about the hunt for the Fallen and operates on its own. And although those Primaris who are genesires of the Lion more or less distrust Guilliman, their loyalties lie more with their Primaris battle brothers who are likely pledged to Guilliman than to the Lion's legacy.

I like big blocks of troops and I cannot lie

How do I use tactical marines and not have them be worthless

>>54831246
You need big guns and you cannot lie

That you battle brothers can't deny

>>54830374
>Empty hand

HE COULD HAVE HAD MORE BOLTER.

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What the fuck happened to the Lexicanum?

>>54831231
>Ahh this old gem how does this conversation end up the same every damn time?
Because there's a simple answer. It wouldn't matter if the Salamanders were African like the Scars are Asian but they aren't. It's a misconception regurgitated by retarded 1d4chan memespouters.

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why do I think this model is shit

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>>54830288
It WAS fully painted when I took this....before I bought some more shit...

>>54831269
With a tiny little trigger and a big bore in your face

>>54830216
Demimation?

>>54831298
You get sprung, because you noticed that brother-chaplain was stuffed

>tfw pretty sure my coworker posts here

he spent like 3 hours explaining 40k lore to me a few days ago. seems pretty cool, but i'd never be able to really get into it

I KNOW YOU'RE HERE JAMES K

>>54831283
Who the fuck takes the time to hack a warhammer wiki site?

>>54831316

ur a faget will

>>54831316
Fuck you Tyler..

>>54831314
even that power armor he's wearing
I'm falling to chaos because I can't stop staring
MY EMPEROR

>>54831246
First you must read the art of war then take a week or two to meditate on your findings. Afterward find someone to test your mettle against (preferably Xenos/Chaos scum) take pictures and write notes of the battle. Win or lose review these notes and try to see how you could have better adapted. Once your good enough maybe try tempering steel and folding your own katana to hold as a cerimonial oath weapon during matches. If your opponent is confused by this practice tell them to get up come on get on the floor everyone do the dinosaur.

>>54831288
It's way too overdesigned. Whoever made it probably did it up in a CAD program at a much bigger size and forgot that it would be a tiny model later.

>>54831356

who hacks a wiki site in general

>>54831283
Haxxed? It's not cleared enough.

Also le edgy 1337 el0n musk kidz.

How common are anti-tank weapons in the fluff?

>>54831316
Fuck off Mike.

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>>54831283
What a faggot.

>>54831386
depends on faction

>>54831386

bretty gommon

Only people lacking them would be like heretic cults and mutant rabble and conscripts and grots

>>54830776
>What do you guys think?

The argument that the granularity of points is more balanced than power levels assumes that GW is good at cross faction points value balancing and historically that's only true across like 2-3 codexes at a time.

That said, it probably is fairer overall because you have a harder time breaking the points system than the power levels one.

>>54831420
Grots have anti-tank weapons sometimes. Sometimes they -are- the anti-tank weapon.

>Plague Marine with special super awesome power axe comes to 25 points
>Warp Talon is 27 and can fly twice as far plus invuln arguably makes it nearly as tanky
>Possessed are 22 points and possess similar attack power at similar tankiness
I mean i guess it fits the points range? It just doesn't feel right to me. Especially compared to double LC chosen.

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>>54831283
Butthurt teen hacked the site for no reason, got even more assravaged when he got stopped or something it seems. Seems like a fag.

>>54831283
Im probably retyarded but why would you want a backdoor to a 40k wiki?

>>54831479
You know what back doors are used for DA guy ;)

>>54831479
Its visited by a lot of people with enough money in their bank accounts to buy plastic crack with. A backdoor might let you plant viruses or some shit. To be honest it seems like some edgy whitehats punishing the admin for not being safe enough.

>>54831497
The Lion will make his return from the backdoor, amirite

>>54831082
BY THE EMPRAH!

the model age really is showing. new models for CSM when?

>>54831288
1- The Energy Effect looks fragile and cartoony.
2- The pose is some kind of weird pirouette.
3- Eye Horn.
4- You don't want to have to buy custom cut foam for it.
5- Makes DP Fulgrim redundant.

>>54831567
I'm hoping soon. I really want some nicely modelled Noise Marines or even a Sonic Dreadnought.

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>>54831599
The only thing bad about em is the legs. You can do cool stuff with em when mixing em with modern kits

>>54831567
my biggest issue is the damn proportions on the models. they're so off when you compare them to recent models, even the 6th edition stuff is a little off.

New codex when?

212th for felinids getting a set and making chaos it's bitch

How is this for a Tzeentch list? The idea is to just bumrush, warptime the Tzaangors and Vindi while the preds poke from mid/backfield. Scarabs drop in, blap the fuck out of anything.

Is 10 Terminators too many? Maybe drop 5 for another las pred?

Tzeentch List 2000

HQ - Exalted Sorcerer - 135
Disc
Stave

HQ - Exalted Sorcerer - 135
Disc
Stave

Troops - Tzaangors - 210

Troops - Tzaangors - 210

Elites - Scarab Occult - 427
Sorc + 9 Termies

Heavy Support - Chaos Vindicator - 160

Heavy Support - Chaos Predator - 171
2x Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support - Chaos Predator - 202
4 Lascannons

Lord of Change - 350
Rod of Sorcery

>>54831716
>Lord of Change
Find the points for Magnus

>>54831700
Chill. It'll get posted when it's posted.

>>54831700
Never, SoB are never getting nice stuff. Stop asking

>>54831709
What would they even get without be furshit?

This is my current "babbys first list" for 1k games, what should I add to bump it to 1.5k/2k?

Battalion, 950pts
Primaris Captain, auto-bolt rifle/power-sword
Primaris Librarian

5 Intercessors with bolt-rifles x2
5 Intercessors with stalker-rifles x2

5 Hellblasters with Incineratorsx2

>>54831726
I may. My friend said he'd even let me use his Magnus since it's basically a paperweight to him.

But it also feels gay as fuck to bring that kind of bullshit, even in a competitive list. Eh. I'll see.

>>54831605
I've been thinking of buying the Iron Warriors pack. How's the finecrap on that kit?

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>>54831758
holy shit primaris armies look boring

>>54831775
He's even more bullshit now and can murder entire armies solo now all while being a force multiplier for some Prescienced Scarab Occult

>>54831758
Repulsor. Aggressors.

>>54831788
It's worth buying. The designs are minimal enough that any bubbles or warps are easily fixed with greenstuff or hot water

>>54831801
You mean in the new 'dex?

>>54831758
More troops, reivers to lock up stuff and repulsors to lock up stuff.

>>54831848
I'm having a hard time finding space for Reivers sadly.

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>>54830288
Nope.

Starting the predator and completing 1.5 plague marines killed my interest. Death Guard were a mistake. Think I'm going to wait for a new GUO model now.

>>54831856
hey, you're not me! Also a 2 squads of reivers with chutes and a fully decked repulsor push it to 1.5k so if you're running a similar list now you know

>>54831886
That alt right boogeyman is everywhere, right fellow progressive liberal?

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Black Templars sporting more than 1k doesn't make any sense now that they have the inquisition's cock firmly implanted into their face orifice.

You can't have them be anti authoritarian and at the same time having them drinking an inquisitor's cock.

>>54831835
Can you picture it anon?

A 3++ rerolling 1s
Stripping away the invul save of any model he fights
And dealing 2d6 Mortal wounds when you roll an 8

Do you see that Devastator squad? No, no you don't it was...smote? smited? smitten?

Then charging a squad of TH/SS Termis that get no invul save

Oh no, Magnus is exposed! But wait! He statistically stops 80% of all wounds

>>54830414
Why are none of them based?

>>54830336
Maybe if GW finally milks the crap out of all the Primarchs they can bring with the most powerful of retcons, and decides to have heroic but regular spacemarines become elevated to primarch status through some God serum the Emperor reborn creates to boosts his chosen warriors.

>>54831758
Repulsor. I've had a lot of fun with combat knife Reivers as well.

>>54831921
You sound a bit booty bothered.

>>54831901
My 2k list runs 15 hellblasters, 30 intercessors, and 6 aggressors plus a repulsor is the issue.

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>>54831925
I approve with birdtits. Also, how's this:

Tzeentch List 2000

HQ - Exalted Sorcerer - 135
Disc
Stave

HQ - Exalted Sorcerer - 135
Disc
Stave

Troops - Tzaangors - 210

Troops - Tzaangors - 210

Elites - Scarab Occult - 210
Sorc + 5

Heavy Support - Chaos Vindicator - 171
Combi-flamer

Heavy Support - Chaos Vindicator - 160

Heavy Support - Chaos Predator - 152
Twin Lascannon

Heavy Support - Chaos Predator - 202
4 Lascannons

Magnus - 415

>>54831943
I'm mad that the alt right is at my lgs playing those FUCKING TEMPLAR FACISTS

>>54831935
If they find the data for the other half of that primaris organ that could happen

Toying with this list. Wanna go almost all Gravis cus why not. Might make some custom Centurions based on Gravis to go with it.

+++ Silver Skulls +++
++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [49 PL, 935pts] ++
**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines

+ HQ +

Captain in Gravis Armor [7 PL, 137pts]: Boltstorm gauntlet, Master-crafted power sword, The Armour Indomitus

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 129pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 129pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

+ Fast Attack +

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 180pts]: Assault bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 180pts]: Assault bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 180pts]: Assault bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

>>54831887
Congratulations, you have a fully-painted Chaos Daemons Nurgle army.

>>54831930
I will go back to it once i'm done with all the army. Still have bunch of things to do.

>>54831969
Way to make the troll obvious.

>>54831984
How are you gonna get close to things?

>>54831999
Fuck off asshole! I'm trying to make a statement here and you are undermining me!

>>54831016
That's almost dead on! It was my last game of 7th: A Friendly Narrative mission of Dark Angels attacking a convoy of imperial guard.

He won because an excellent opening salvo, rolling triple 6s on an assault cannon that totaled the lead chimera and trapped the convoy on the street. Had he not managed that the entire tank column might have just floored it to the escape path on the far side of the board. As it was, the entire convoy had to use the infantry chaff on the flanks to distract the tacticals and terminators while the tank commander full-throttled onto a side-street to escape. It was awesome.

>>54831886
People like this actually exist?

>>54832013
That's not how you do it, political bait is way past it's prime. Subtly pretending to be retarded is the best way to gather tons of (You)s.

Stay tuned for next thread and I'll show you how it's done.

>>54831288
Its too overdesigned. Which is a shame cause fluffwise and all that I like the Ynnead concept.

>>54832034
You are such a fucking asshole!

>>54832034
I doubt it

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>>54831288
It has nice ass.

>>54832043
Stop undermining me you jerk!

>>54831949
Looks good.

I don't know what kind of stuff you'll face, but find your opponents scariest thing (Guilliman) and just throw Magnus at it (him)

>>54831919
There are plenty of Inquisitors that wouldn't give a fuck about them going over the 1k limit though, so long as they got the job done.

>>54832000
Might run it as Raven Guard instead for just that reason.

>>54832043
Where's the tank retard? The one from last night's general.

>>54831758
17 guys for 1000 points? Good lord I've got 4 infantry squads, two veteran squads, two tanks, and 6 officers in my 1k list and it isn't even optimized at all!

Primaris are freaking expensive!

>>54832034
I hope not

>>54831886
>>54831921
(You)

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>>54828208
>Tfw you find the will power to say no to Primaris
God almighty, I got tempted to starta Primarine army today. I only held out thanks to my desire to finish what I'm painting now.

Now, I just have to wait till Admech gets new models.
Or IG does, so I can start my newest army.

>>54832098
I WILL NOT BE MOCKED

>>54832000
What about this...

+++ Silver Skulls Assault (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [100 PL, 1996pts] +++

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [37 PL, 677pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines

+ HQ +

Captain in Gravis Armor [7 PL, 137pts]: Boltstorm gauntlet, Master-crafted power sword, The Armour Indomitus

+ Fast Attack +

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 180pts]: Assault bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 180pts]: Assault bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 180pts]: Assault bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [63 PL, 1319pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines

+ HQ +

Captain in Gravis Armor [7 PL, 137pts]: Boltstorm gauntlet, Master-crafted power sword

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 129pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 129pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 129pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Flamestorm Gauntlets

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 129pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Flamestorm Gauntlets

+ Dedicated Transport +

Repulsor [16 PL, 320pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Auto Launchers, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Krakstrom Grenade Launcher, Las-talon, Storm bolter, Twin lascannon

Repulsor [16 PL, 346pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Krakstrom Grenade Launcher, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Twin lascannon

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Going to finish this guy up in a few days for Konor's "psyker" week.

>>54831886
Just remind him that the term he uses unironically actually stands for one of the biggest series of clusterfucks in European History.

>>54832115
Sweet fuck man, how many weapons are on a repulsor?

>>54832081
32 actually but yeah they are caught in a weird place between elite high cost and horde low cost

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Reply to this post with only 100% true 40k facts.

I'll start.

>every sisters player has/d a penis

>>54832034
Yes, but your still unlikely to ever see them in person. They'll probably come to the thread and spout their politics at you though, but that's because the internet lets us keep in touch with every crazy person possible.

>>54831758
I agree with the guy that said a Repulsor.

>>54832133
A lot. I actually love onslaught/frag builds. 5d6 bolter shots, 24 or so heavy bolter shots, 3 heavy stubber shots, 2 krak grenades.

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>>54831589
>Makes DP Fulgrim redundant.
Do not compare anyone to Him!

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>>54832140
>Every AL player is longhaired trap/want to become trap

>>54832133
>reading assembly instructions
>step 18, 2 thin coats of Citadel Plastic Glue™
>step 19, roll in a bits container filled with weapons

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>>54832140
Dark Eldar players are 95% relaxed friendly dudes 4% edgefags that believe their own hype and 1% hot chicks.

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>>54832072
The recurring story, even in eighth edition, is that the inquisition is trying and failing to catch them red handed.

>>54832123
Thank you anon. Everyone else here is making fun of me.

>>54832160
That sounds like a Havoc squad buttfucked a fundraiser.

>>54832140
Guard players paint there armys

>>54832184
Landraider

>>54832197
And crosspolinated with a land speeder yes.

Can a kind anon upload the Dark Son novel since that it's neither on the 4plebs archives or the megas?

>>54832180
>>54832180
How much damage would the BTs be able to do to the Inquisitions before the massed numbers eventually brought them down?

>>54832180
so obviously it doesn't matter if they're over 1k if they're not getting caught

and besides, the inquisition is not a monolithic entity, plenty of radicals would give no fucks

>>54832140
Chaos has the edgiest fan base.

>>54832226
The Inquisition wouldn't be the ones doing the bleeding. They'd just have the BT declared Excommunicate Traitoris and get some other marines to do the purging.

>>54832236

>edgiest

*spikiest

>>54830502
Smooth ice? Wall putty.

Which FW HH book have DeathGuard legion?

>>54832140
No anon, cutting your cock open and flipping it inside out does not magically make it not-a-cock.

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Necron players, we need to talk....

"My Will Be Done" does not make your Tesla special rule activate on a 5+ instead of 6+.

I know you guys got completely owned in 8th edition, but for fucks sake, take it like a man.

The Orc and Tyranid players didn't try this shit in 7th. Just wait for your fucking Codex. Maybe things might balance out. But until then, let the current state of your army show you how bad it was for some of us in 7th edition.

>>54832172
The only dark player I've played so far liked old ladies, not older or mature, but old.

>>54831057
What are the tanks with the double treads?

>>54832257
Are we doing this again?

>>54832140
No tau army that isn't a commission is 100% painted

>>54832170
chuckle

>>54832286
Depends on whether or not people want to go through the ropes again.

>>54832286
Trannys are not women, faggot.

>>54832034
Probably, I've never encountered that particular variation, but it seems like a logical modern variant of the annoying teenager who treats racism as an edgy accessory, which has existed for at least the entire time I've played 40k, which is about 16 years.

In the past this largely manifested as a player with an SS themed steel legion army.

How often will you see anti-tank weapons like rocket launchers and lascannons in a Guard infantry squad? Are they in most of them or limited to specialized teams? Lorewise of course.

>>54832140
Space Wolves players are all touched with literal retardation. Shut, one of them thinks he's going to sue GW successfully

>>54832180
>stats for Tankred on the tabletop when

>>54832313
To add on to this, for some reason every Space Wolves player I've played against has been a jew. Can anyone relate to this?

>>54832306
Really? I would've figured them for Krieg players

>>54832311

Most guard squads carry a heavy weapon team with them, although I think in the books and stuff it's usually a heavy bolter, sniper, or autocannon.

>>54832311
haven't played a guard player in a while but i never leave home without my lascannon havocs. they don't do much but be threatening because i roll like shit for damage against tanks

>>54832140
SoB players are always bitching.

>>54832331
So you wouldn't expect to see a lascannon in most imperial defense lines, right?

How about rocket/grenade launchers? Are these also standard issue or rarer like the lascannons? I can't help but think any mechanized force could steamroll most regiments if they aren't too outnumbered.

>>54832270
No, it works as intended. Like, if you cast prescience (+1 to hit) on csm. they will trigger Death to the false Emperor on 5+ instead of 6+. It was in FAQ

>>54832168
Holy fuck what happened to him? Fulgrim really went full retard when he ascended to daemonhood.

>>54832322
They hate jews. Row-boat is jew. Fuck codex.

>>54831299
That'd be one in two, what we're looking for really is one in three, so more like tri-mation, I guess.

>>54832327
I'm sure they do that too. But steel legion predate krieg and FW is more expensive and direct sales only so they're less available. You used to be able to buy steel legion in stores so that's what I've seen most often. That said I've only seen this phenomenon maybe 3 times ever and only ever in England, never in America.

CSM CODEX EPUB WHEN?

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>>54832378
slaanesh at work. with the beguilement of slaanesh daemons they look beautiful until you're too close then you got a crab claw giving you the reach around through your liver and you realize they're ugly

>>54831363
>Who the fuck is Tyler?

>>54832367

In a defensive line they would absolutely have lascannons, it's just that not every squad would have them. I'd probably say it's like 1 lascannon to 3 HB/AC or so. More if they're fighting mechanized enemies of course. Grenade launchers are relatively common.

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>>54832133
As many as you want anon.

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>>54832140
40k is Ork Valhalla and they've already won

>>54832270
Yes it does. Like, not even a Necron player, but it does.

>>54830336
The Lion's first action (beyond the immediate necessities of waking up from a ten thousand year coma) will be to immediately reform the 1st Legion. After all, the Legiones are much more efficient and effective than the Chapter system, and the Most Loyal will need such a force.

>>54832270
FAQ confirmed it does, cry moar.

>>54832140
Thousand sons players have the most unbearable victim complex

>>54832427
Okay, that got a giggle out of me

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Somebody share new anime book by Aaron Dembski-Bowden known as Black Legion.

>>54832421
What about missile launchers?

Grey knights get psychic chaplains

>>54832414
Quiet poorfag

Rank Best Chapter Tactics and Best Legion Traits.

I'd say Ultras and Black Legion.

>>54832491
Ultras and Alpha Legion. AL berserkers are going to be insane.

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So while we don't have much of a sample size so far, it seems that the Codexes are going to be reducing points and buffing things more than nerfing them.

Are their any armies or units you think might be the exception to this? Anything that you think is too strong in its Index incarnation and is going to get toned down in the Codex?

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Honestly, why the fuck can't Raptors have the THOUSAND SONS <Legion> keyword. I want to paint some like pic related.

>>54832504
tau commanders guaranteed to get a price increase, though unless they double in cost I don't see them being replaced by vanilla suits any time soon.

>>54832483

Probably more common than lascannons, given that they kill people, tanks, and planes.

>>54832439
i think dark eldar are also living the dream.

>>54832491
not sure, but i guess emperor's children since i'm mostly a slaanesh player and i'll get around to painting up my marines in those colors this year

Can a Rhino use it's storm bolter to supress a bunker fast enough to prevent the heretics inside from shooting their auto/lascannon at it, thus enabling the marines inside to clear the bunker without losing their transport?

If not, then why do Rhinos even exist in the first place?

>>54832504
Conscripts are rumoured to be geting nerfed in the Guard codex.

Am I special for making a company veteran squad with double melta, double bolter, and a combimelta/powerfist/probably illegal chainsword? Everyone except the sarge has a storm shield.

Do Plasma Inceptors make Bolter Inceptors obsolete?
The only thing that is bad about them is the points cost.

>>54832504
Presumably they will increase the points cost of every tyranid unit by 30% to re-establish historical norms.

>>54832529
They exist for the same reason modern APCs exist, getting soldiers to Point B from Point A without said soldiers getting shot to bits.

>>54832529
Think of a rhino like a HMMWV

>>54832553
rhinos are basically m113s from the future

>>54832521
Then wouldn't they be more common than the heavy bolter and the autocannon? Considering their versatility, ease of fire and transport.

I feel like it'd be more likely to appear in most infantry squads. But then again I'm just speculating, what do you think?

>>54832475
lol that art is terrible

>>54832533
By special I mean retarded.

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>>54832529
They are armored personnel carriers.

>>54832550
Bolter Inceptor can chuke out 18 shots per turn.

10 hellblasters, 6 melta bikers and samael enough anti-armor dakka for 2k?