40kg

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FIRST FOR ONE DAY REMAINS UNTIL CHAOS REIGNS

2nd for Slaanesh

>>54816805


Corrupted Versions of Palatine Blades and Phoenix Termies

Lucius the Eternal used to be a palatine Blade.
Could go with a Slaanesh Melee unit with Whip and Sword that are corrupted Palatine Blades

Could give the Phoenix Termies One-Handed Sonicblaster/Blastmaster

Noise-Bikers with back mounted Doom-Sirens

Cultists-equivalents that are running around with Whips and Daggers that can attack once more after they died

Daemonette Support Units in the style of Baroque masked courtesans with Violins and Harps

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>>54821049
Don't forget Noise Terminators and Sonic Helbrutes, Doom Sirens on all Characters? Fuck yeah!

>>54821049
>>54821210
Did so many people always shitpost about Slaanesh?
I feel like the dark prince has suddenly become much more popular.

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>>54820987

why dont you link in old thread. wanker

>>54820987
Are there any scans of Codex: CSM or Grey Knights other than the crappy videos?

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>>54821245
>posting what we want for our army's codex
>shitposting
pic related, it's you

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post yfw full DG soon

>>54821271
not yet, supposedly cult troops arent troops anymore.

>>54821245
I've always done it for the time Ive been on /tg/

but there are alot of wannabe-waac Chaos-Fags jumping on the bandwagon because their Legions got shit rules and they think Emperors Children are the best ChaosLegion now because a BoLS Post said so. They aren't but I still love them

>>54821271
There were two pics of the points values in the last thread

>new thread when the older one didn't even reach 400 posts at page 7.

We could have gone for at least 100 more post here. That seems wasteful.

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>>54821328

Got my Index 2, dug out my old nids from the garage, and I was able to make a patrol out of the complete units I had.

HQ
Hive Tyrant (Heavy (?) Venom cannon, Monstrous (?) Bone Swords)

Troops
16 Hormagaunts
16 Termagaunts
3 Tyranid Warriors (Devourer)

Elite
Lictor

Heavy
Biovore

Not shown: Units below current minimum unit size, 12 Genestealers.

>>54820987
Who the fuck keeps making these shitty OPs that don't do the thread title right or link the previous thread

Is it just me, or CSM discipline is just flat out better than SM one?

What are some good units to take advantage of the Renegade Trait, where you can advance and charge in the same turn?

I'm kicking around a list with bikers, a couple of Fist+Scourge Helbrute and a Terminator Sorc, with the idea of rushing up the board, deep striking in the sorc next to either a Helbrute or the Bikers depending on who needs Warptime more (normally the brute I imagine) and going for first turn charges.

Most other units seem like they'd be better off in a transport or deep striking themselves.

>>54821341
I tried posting in the old thread before looking for the new one and it didnt let me post because its archived

>>54821306
>getting this butthurt over an accusation
>le gaymer gate meme
Back at ya, pal :^)

>>54821388
Yes, their strategems are better as well.

>>54821395
why lie on the internet anon

>>54816223

>>54821436
> 40k Gen
> not /40kg/

explains why I didnt find it and probably why we go trough 6 threads a day

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This is now a faces of nurgle General.

Are lists with Auxilliary Super Heavies ever worth it?

Does it disrupt the general function of a combined arms list, or is a 500 point splurge on something pretty unkillable and killy itself a good idea?

>>54821468
>Are lists with Auxilliary Super Heavies ever worth it?
Yes, it allows you to make some of the best lists in the game

>>54821341
Also, the thread before the one on page 7 only archived a couple of minutes before OP made this. People don't seem to realise how long threads can hang around, it's not uncommon to hit the bump limit before the previous thread falls off the board.

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>>54821328

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>>54821328
Release on mah friggin birthday (if leaks are to be believed).

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What's his name again?

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>Also, everyone got tricked by the Chaos Gods in the end,

Disappointing tbqh famalam

I didn't want 'tragic fallen' blah blah rebels. I wanted actual FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY

Maybe DEldar is more my flavor

>>54821492
Which leaks?

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>>54821049
> Noise-Bikers with back mounted Doom-Sirens
> Noise
> Biker
> Doom

A D-D-D-DOOMRIDER?

>>54821393
Bikers can get there but they aren't good in melee anyway. Its probably best on Possessed and Spawn.

>>54821503
Who are you quoting?

>>54821481
Spartans are how I give the opposition its daily dose of khorne berserkers

>>54821496
Dribblenose Plaguecounter

Has it been long enough for me to be able to post another shadow spectres list

>>54821468
I assume you mean other than Rowboat. And yes. You can do very competitive lists with Super Heavies. If I remember right one of the top lists at BAO ran a Storm Lord.

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>>54821518

>>54821496
George

>>54821468
Sure just don't think it's going to actually be unkillable. It'll die within a few turns on average.

>>54821534
No, faggot. No one cares about your FW abuse eldarfag list.

>>54821436
>wrong fucking label
Nice one genius

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>>54821527
> all those cat hairs

>>54821458
>I'm too fucking stupid to try a couple of variations in case an OP named the thread differently to me (like the fact yours won't show up for anyone searching for "40k general") or made a typo
>better just make a brand new thread

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>>54821517
Meant rumour

>>54821518
A KU KU KU YEAAAAAAAAAH

>>54821580
These have already been proven wrong

>>54821527
hair aside you're a silly boy if you aren't painting death guard like this, good stuff

>>54821579
It's supposed to be 40kg. Everyone knows this.

>>54821564
I didn't make either general anon, but I also have basic searching skills so I didn't struggle finding it.

>>54821306
>people I don't like are sjws!!!
why is it not surprising that pathetic losers like you are slaanesh players

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>>54821328

>>54821641
Jesus christ get the fuck back to wherever you came from you stupid fucking piece of shit

>>54821613
No it isn't, there's all sorts of variations. Stop making up rules, and git gud at using the catalogue.

>>54821518
to be honest I just want a new CSM Biker Sculpt in the same way they did the DarkAngel Bikers etc. Perhaps with a special rule that allows them to dodge overwatch because theyre so fucking fast, or fall back and then charge like WhiteScars.

BackMounted Doom Sirens came to mind when I was trying to build Chaos bikers with BikeBolter+ChainSword+Flamer but dont want them to drive without handlebars like idiots.

Not everything Emperors Children should be NOISE I'd really like the see Palatine Blades come back slightly more deranged with Whips instead of Pistols to incooperate their Heresy Fluff with their old fluff, which would make sense when Fulgrim comes back to reorganize his split legion

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>>54821503
http://www.thedarkcity.net/t3551-feedback-from-dark-eldar-seminar
>[Jes Goodwin] described Chaos as being more like 'daddy doesn't love you' whereas the DE were unrepentantly evil.

>>54821667
40kg is the most common. Maybe you can add some more [embed]s. Even this op got 40kg

I need help deciding between Thousand Sons and Death Guard. I'm a huge fan of the new Plague Marine sculpts but I like the Thousand Sons in the lore better.

Also how do the Rubric Marines compare in size to the new Plague Marines? I heard they were roughly the same scale.

>>54821685
Did they actually sort out what Fulgrims been up to since he became a daemon prince?
I know he's doing stuff now, but last I checked he was in a painting

>>54821330
>they think Emperors Children are the best ChaosLegion now because a BoLS Post said so

Way to show how herd mentality can affect people's judgement. ASF in 8th edition on an elite melee army is near useless because combat won't last more than one round anyway. I mean, they are not the worst Legion (see IW and WB) but they are far from being good. If you want a close combat army, I would pick instead WE or the generic renegades every day of the week instead of ECs.

>>54820987
Anyone else think Mortarian looks like a Dark souls boss?

>>54821687
its actually there hahaha

>>54821548
Ok I'll post it

[2k Ynnari]
Battalion Detachment_
Yvraine
Autarch Skyrunner
Warlock Skyrunner

5x Corsair Skyreaver
shardcarbine
5x Corsair Skyreaver
shardcarbine
5x Corsair Skyreaver
shardcarbine
5x Corsair Skyreaver
shardcarbine

3x Shadow Spectres, exarch
prism rifles

5x Scourges
dark lances (4)
5x Scourges
dark lances (4)

Vanguard Detachment_
Yncarne
Farseer

x3 Shadow Spectres, exarch
prism rifles
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
prism rifles
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
prism rifles

Farseer has 24" range for fortune, rerolling misses to hit. Autarch has an aura of reroll 1's to hit, warlock has a conceal bubble granting shadows -2 to be hit. Comes out to maximum 24 S6 AP-3 hits per 3 count squad, maximum 66 for the 10 count including soulburst bonus shooting phase of which there are plenty of min units to provide it on death. Yvraine camps back field with a unit of scourges for 8 dark lance shots from one unit with free soulburst, 4 from the other.

It's not a faggot malefic lord or exalted sorcerer list dude, it's not that bad.

>>54821667
Search the archives

>>54821520
Even with the wound increased, Possessed kind of suck. Can Spawn even benefit from Legion Traits?

>>54821736
I haven't read whatever article that guys talking about but EC aren't reliant on their Legion trait, it's their stratagem and the slaanesh stratagem (which WE can't use) that makes them good.

>>54821736
I love that Geedubs have been pushing undivided for years but everyone will always pick one of the gods eventually
No one gives a fuck about undivided

>>54821752
He looks like a thicc'er celestine.
Same pose and everything.

>>54821503
Hell yeah, boy, DEldar are the most evil sons of bitches in the game and I love them so much because of it. Go fast, unload dakka, die when the enemy looks at you. It's fun, I'm not being ironic.

>Magnus usually saves 59% with his invulnerable
>With Weaver of Fates he makes 78% of his invulnerable saves, making him almost twice as durable

>>54821667
Fuck off retard, it's 40kg, it's always been 40kg

>>54821773
Infantry, Bikers and Brutes get LT.

CS s are none of those

>>54821496
Bubonic Bureaucrat

>>54821736
It really activates my almonds how the IW and WB players are like abandoning immediatly.

I've been playing EC for 2 years now and I never cared about their rules

>>54821808
WE Mutilators worth it now? Four attacks at S6, AP-1, and 1D min per model.

>>54821778
not him but I'm genuinly curious, what do their stratagems do ?

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Must have Eldar Units in 8th--GO!

Pretty new to the whole 40k thing but I'm pretty sure at this point I want a knight and I had a few questions before I drop the dosh.
What is the significance of the crest mounted on the right chest/shoulder area?
The battle cannon weapon includes a stubber, can I chose to mount it on the chest opposite the standard stubber?
Which kit should I be looking for if I wanted all the buildable options?
Are there any books/source material I should read to learn more about these beautiful things?

>>54821818
>I've been playing EC for 2 years now and I never cared about their rules

Of course you didn't, you got off for how bad they were and now you'll get off by how good they are. Just like a true Emperor's Children.

>>54821379
Drop the warriors and replace the hormies with genestealers and you have a decent 500 point force there anon

>>54821855
One of them grants an extra attack for every model they slay in melee, the other one lets them have a second shooting phase.

>>54821496
brad the accountant

>>54821850
That's the same as a lone khorne berserkers who didn't charge and has a chain axe with no chainsword

So, what do we know about the schedule post-DG?

We know there will be six more codexes by the end of the year.

Strong hints that they will include AdMech and Astra Mililitarum and not include orks, necrons or dark eldar.

Chaos Daemons and/or Daemons of Nurgle seems likely after DG, with new GUO and possibly giant beast thing.

Next Primarch seems likely to be Russ or Jonson, arriving around January 2018. So unlikely to have SW or DA before then. That leaves Blood Angels as the only remaining loyalist marines who could appear this year.

Thousand Sons must be soon, since they aren't in C:CSM. Presumably a no-model release.

There have been rumours of a new army, possibly linked to the eagle-skull image which has been seen around. Could be a new regiment of guard, possibly a separate codex like MT. If so, I'd guess Penal Battalions as their own army, but could be officio prefectus (remember commissar cadet squads?) or militarum auxilla (imperial beastmen?). Or it might be the Shadow War: Necromunda logo, which could mean necromundan guard and/or arbites as a new army.

Finally, we have the Ynarri, who are a major force both on the tabletop and in the background but haven't had a codex of their own at all. It seems likely that GW is going to want to give them a book with some more background.

So, putting all that together, seems like a likely schedule is...

Death Guard
Chaos Daemons
Astra Militarum
Ynarri
Thousand Sons
Adeptus Mechanicus

>>54821904
lol wrong

NDKGM is the new memeta

>>54821861
If by Eldar you meant Ynnari, then Wraithfighters, Serpents, Yvraine, Warlocks and Wraithguards. Alternatively, anything Harlequins.

DEldars and Craftworlders aren't even played competitively.

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>>54821904
>That leaves Blood Angels as the only remaining loyalist marines who could appear this year.

Crying Deathwatch.

Interesting thing is if they'll go "Disciplines of Tzeentch" style with the DG / TS and include all Nurgle / Tzeentch Daemons with the traitor Legion.

Post attached hints that Daemons are Soon.

>>54821891
True, but the Muti is 2+/5++, can deep strike, and potentially hits way harder in melee. The stats I gave were if you roll 1 on each of those D3 rolls. Three Mutis have the potential to really do some damage on a solid platform.

>>54821938
>We aren't including datasheets for models we don't make
>Includes a Datasheet in Codex Grey Knights for a model they don't make.

>>54821861
Wraithguard
Wave Serpent
Yvraine

>>54821947

What troop choice is Eldar rolling with now?

Rangers?

>>54821904
Tyranids will be in the next 3-4 books.

Ynnari will probably be next year.

>>54821496

Robin Cruddace

>>54821482
this guy is real nice, but I was under the impression that we couldn't take jump men anymore

>>54821995
>>54821947

Why waveserpents?

>>54821459
M-morty *burp*
> god damn none unseeable memes.

>>54821947
DE is doing well in tournaments, they just aren't actually winning outright.

>>54821482
>>54822019
Death Guard's "I-Want-Inceptors-Too"

>>54821687
>HHG on suicide watch

>>54822025
To put your Wraithguards in you dummy

>>54822006
Kabalit Warriors, once again assuming you play Ynnari. Take 4x5 of them dispatched in two raiders for MSU. Or just take Harlequins troop.

>>54821866
Get the warden kit, it simply. Has more weapons and bits than the other kit.

Current edition it makes zero difference where weapons are mounted. In the future that might change. I doubt anyone will really care about a stubbers though, it's hardly game changing.

Alright Shitlords, who's got a Chaos Dex. Who is can benefit from legion tactics? Is it just infantry, bikes, and helbrutes or does it include Daemon Princes and/or Daemon Engines?

>>54822087
>To put your Wraithguards in you dummy

So you taking Wraithblades or just Wraithguard with D Scythes?

Refuse to mix DEldar in...think I'll do Harlequin

>>54821609
You mean proven close enough

>>54822006
Corsair Skyreaver, FW unit but cheap as dirt when swapping from default weapon, have 18" move and come in minimum units of 5, optimal for soulburst

>>54822094
It's infantry, bikes, and helbrutes. We've known this for a fact for like a whole week, there are literal screenshots you slow fuck.

>>54821976
I don't think saving 15ppm is worth it over oblits still. I don't like how Mutis have to roll a 2 for strength to get to s7.

>>54822094
Just what you listed.

>>54822019
It's a destroyer for HH

>>54822120
No, it's not hard to guess that all the releases will be on Saturdays. If he couldn't get the actual weekend right then the rumour guy was making shit up, and Foley basically just said Daemons are after DG which aren't on that list.

>>54821482
"I wonder if I turned off the oven..."

>>54821487
What exactly happened here?

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>>54821257

>>54822127
do contemptors count as helbrutes

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>...helps to ensure your line troops are not at a disadvantage compared to those factions that are lucky enough to have a codex already.

Really late on this, but can anyone explain how the new rule can possibly be interpreted as a bonus for armies without a codex? Seems like a straight buff to elite armies (i.e. space marines) and anyone with strong troops (i.e. tyranids and guard) so it helps every army they have released a codex for and makes the strongest armies even stronger.

Also

>the current feeling is that the present method is a bit too reliable, and some players are developing armies and strategies to exploit this. We’ve taken this feedback on board and changed how you determine who gets the first turn in every one of the new matched play missions

is basically saying 'we noticed some people were using horde armies and tactics to win, so we put a stop to that and made it so everything is MSU and arbitrary chance again', right?

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I really like the look of Dark Elder but they look like they're such an easy army to fuck up in the list building department, where do I got from a start collecting and gangs of commoragh box

>>54822025
Serpent Shield helps make Serpents very durable for their points and the change to twin weapons basically doubled their firepower. There isn't that big a difference between a Falcon and a Serpent offensively these days and the Serpent is tougher and provides transport as well. Plus the Mortal Wound ability is handy for finishing off key targets later in the game.

>>54821487
"Typhus - giving head like a champ."

>>54822197
Yes. All Chaos FW Dreads got the Helbrute tag

>>54822111
Wraithguards with D Scythes. They obliterate anything they shoot at and get one free extra shooting phase thanks to the Ynnari passive ability. Alternatively you can use Yvraine to make them shoot twice regardless if they destroyed their target or not.

>>54822199
because now your 30-boy squad isn't cucked by 5 chadmarines

SM, CSM and GK already had that rule

>>54821991
Models which can be built from their kits are OK. That just means they can sell you more kits. See bike captains, assault cannon razorbacks, etc.

What they don't want to include is anything that requires actual skill to convert.

>>54822158
>Random tg leak posting is not as reliable as some clickbait website
Sure thing kiddo

>>54822199
>Really late on this, but can anyone explain how the new rule can possibly be interpreted as a bonus for armies without a codex?

Considering 2-3/3 (unsure on GKs) got Objective Secured in their codex. That errata does NOTHING to the codices (as they have Obj. Secured already)

>>54822201
Easiest way to fuck up using deldar is picking a deldar HQ, all of which are garbage. Just play ynnari.

>>54822111
Both wraith weapons are good.

>>54822218
You only get soulburst when one of your own units gets wiped. Good luck having your WG in range waiting for that to happen

>>54821904
Here's what I think. Call it a gut instinct/playing it safe

>Chaos Daemons
50/50. It's either this or Nids in my mind.
>Astra Militarum
Very likely.
>Ynnari
Too niche. We're more likely to see Craftworlds before Ynnari.
>Thousand Sons
Probably not. We're more likely to see a loyalist subfaction before we see TSons so soon. Especially if they release chaos daemons. Still, it could go either way.
>Adeptus Mechanicus
50/50. It could go either way with this one.

That leaves the last release. If we look at the months remaining - October, November and December - that's 3 months to release 6 books. This means all the codexes will likely get a no model release. Safe bets would be Blood Angels, Space Wolves or Dark Angels since they all have solid lines already and can slot in easy peasy.

Anyone know anything about the company who are doing the new RPG? Only thing I know is some guy on dakkadakka who is an insufferable faggot is involved somehow.

>>54822243
Drazhar is NOT garbage. And Power from Pain is quite strong. Succubus is pretty good if you're bringing some Wyches to keep people in combat.

>>54822269
Don't you soulburst when you wipe an enemy unit too? Granted, the wraithguard can only soulburst per turn but it can still trigger itself if it manages to wipe an entire unit all by its lonesome

>>54822269
Incorrect. It's any unit, friendly or enemy except via morale.

Anyone else prefer the new Typhus to the new Mortarion?

>>54822284
You have to admit - the Dark Eldar HQ options are pretty lame in comparison to everyone's. I'd go so far as to say it is their weakest slot and that includes their special characters.

>>54822282
What's this? A new 40k rpg?

>>54822308
You do

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>>54822334

>>54822199
Man you are really, really stupid aren't you.

>>54822337
Fair. The Archon is particularly diaappointing. But the Succubus is okay and Drazhar is just good.

>>54822342
>>54818499

in the old thread was brought up

Is finecast still shit?

>>54822324
>>54822308
But this is within 7" of the slain unit correct? So only in niche circumstances you get soulburst from wiping a unit?

>>54821991
Absolutely retarded, lamentable post.

>>54822334
Typhus hasn't been leaked, that model is a Deathshroud.

>>54822374
Seeing as I love Star Wars D6 I'll probably love this too.

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Emperor model when?

>>54822337
>>54822369
Succy gets good as the game goes on, still really shitty compared to last edition's iteration.
Drazhar is solid

>>54822376
I'd like to know as well, any DAfags here get the new Sammael?

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Left isn't typhus, apparently blurry on far right is.

>>54820987
Which Army (besides sisters) has gone the longest without a new model now?

>>54822441
I have a Sammael model. It needed a bit of cleaning, but it's one of three Finecrap models I've had almost no issues with.

>>54821001
>not having a FLGS to sell you the book yesterday
Sorry bro

>>54822337
Necrons would like to have a word

>>54822201
Depends on what you want to do and if you plan on playing them as Ynnari in the future. If Ynnari is on the cards, avoid the Flesh Coven dudes. Now, if you're going pure DE, some solid units to consider are...

Elites
Incubi, Mandrakes and Wracks are all solid choices. Incubi for pure melee, especially if you bring Drazhar. Mandrakes are great harassing units and Wracks can be built for melee or provide some pinging ability with the ossefactor. Grots are cute, but not as good as they could have been this edition. Also finecast models.

Fast Attack
Everything here is solid. Scourges are solid for pinpoint damage. Bonus points if they live past the turn they dropped though. Hellions are actually not so bad as skirmishers. Reavers you know. Of the two planes, the Razorwing is better IMO.

Heavy Support
Ravagers are great. Talos pain engines are amazing. Talos pain engines + haemonculus or urien is a ball of death that is pretty hard to remove. Doubly so if you have some cronos pain engines supporting.

>>54822376
Not really, for any newer moulds it's usually fine, the most I've had go wrong lately has been some warping on a branchwraith arm, I just hate working with resin

>>54822459
Are Crypteks bad now?

>>54822374
d6 based?
Well that's going to be shit.
At least it's not more 3.75 bullshit or rando d100 system stuff

>>54822234
>the personal Twitter of the lead fucking designer of Warhammer 40k is "some clickbait website"
5/10 got me to reply

>>54822439
When forgeworld reach the siege of terra in their horus heresy game series. So, never.

>>54822439
When we get to the showdown on Terra with Horus.

30k exclusive.

>>54822376
Not sure that it's still finecast(tm), but the few non-plastic things I've brought from GW-main recently have been kinda bad. Not full of holes though, just slippage.

>>54822379
Niche circumstances being when you do it with short-range weapons (which eldar have lots of) or in the fight phase (where plenty of eldar units do well)?

>>54822282
Ulisses Spiele. They're the company that does "The Dark Eye". So the top German roleplaying company. Their English language division got the license to 40k roleplay and the lead designer of the Rogue Trader roleplaying game is making a new edition of 40k roleplay for them. It's set in the current Dark Imperium era.

http://www.ulisses-us.com/in-development-wrath-glory-for-warhammer-40000-roleplay/

>>54822455
Everyone but marines, necrons and tau.

>>54822376
>Does finecast still break if subject to a stiff breeze?
Yup
>Is finecast easily repairable?
Nope
>GW still sells finecast?
Yup
>Should I buy finecast over metal models?
Nope

>>54821487
Don't you just hate someone who only takes head and never gives it?

(name the movie for bonus points.. NO GOOGLE!

>>54822439
>>54822472
>>54822476

...there are already 2 Guilliman models?
>>54822487
>It's set in the current Dark Imperium era.
Hissss

>>54822455
Eldar

Guys

How do I get a gf?

>>54822459
Hey, Overlords are great. Your Will be Done is amazing on lychguards or warrior/immortal blobs. Zahndrekh is better than he was last edition and Obyron still has a cool movement trick to do with Zahndrekh. The other Necron special characters all got buffed with the questionable cases of Orikan and Imotekh. Anrakyr especially makes a Necron melee army happen, a thing that was pretty much never a thing in the past edition. The sour note is the crypteks though. 3" on the +1 to reanimate is balls.

>>54822515
never post here again

>>54822515
Play genestealers cults!

>>54822467
Pretty much the only HQ that should be in your list since ctan are elite for some reason

>>54822379
Yes. But Wraithguard are durable with brutal but very short-ranged weapons so they're a natural fit. As a bonus it's very fluffy too.

>>54822505
Are you actually implying gulliman is the Emperor? Thats heresy in the highest regard, your home planet deserves exterminatus.

>>54822514
Silly Anon they just got new models.

>>54822450
Neither are Typhus. They're plastic Deathshroud.

>>54822542
>your home planet deserves exterminatus.
>tfw Cyclonic Torpedoing Earth

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>>54822483
So you have to wipe a unit in rapid fire range or wipe a unit in CQC in hopes to succeed a charge afterword?

>>54822514
I Honestly think it's Necrons.

>>54822575
No true terran would ever have such heretical thoughts.

Chaos is still losing yet nobody is sesenng in soul grinders.

>>54822560
Probably Blood Angels then not counting the interceptor flyer

>>54822450
I do hope "scythes and hand flamers" and "grenade launchers" will be options for DG terminators. And that unit sizes can be below 5. Then I can just use my 30k DG terminators without any problems.

>>54822515
Take a fucking shower, shave that neckbeard, and wear a shirt that's not the Slayer shirt you got when you were fifteen and has a million holes in it now.

>>54822455
Orks.

>>54822596
Is it okay if I use defilers? I have 1 soul grinder and 2 defilers.

>>54822604
But where do I meet them? My lgs is a sausagefest and I don't go to bars.

>>54822455
Militarum Tempestus / Astra Militarum.

>>54822584
nah necrons are newer than you think, it's definitely blood angels. The last release they had was Sanguinary guard, Death company and the dread variants.

>>54822596
I like to think you're roleplaying some absolutely blue-balled Dark Mechanicum techpriest.

>>54822581

MSU anon.

Or, Wraithguard with Scythes layered sounds good too

>>54822619
Conventions.

>>54822440
I don't think Drazhar can be counted on as being solid. He's only good if you bring Incubi and even then he's a half assed buff. If he buffed their hit and wound rolls, that would be amazing but he doesn't so there's that.

As a beatstick he is also lacking. If he did 2 damage on his two handed klaive, that would be forgivable. But as it stands he is only great for mincing through chaff and falls short of killing big scary things. For those you're better off with regular incubi squads and at that point you're just paying for Drazhar as a glorified buff bot that only buffs one unit type. So no, I won't call him solid under morst circumstances.

>>54822487
On the subject of it being set in the dark imperium, it doesn't say "set in the dark imperium era" it says in the dark imperium itself, so they may be doing it to open up narrative possibilities that don't work in the normal imperium like xenos in human parties or whatever. They also say each new campaign book will focus on a different section of 40k so for all we know there will be a horus heresy book in a few years.

>>54822631
but anon split fire is a thing now, MSU for low survivability ignorable units with ynnari is nerfed isnt it?

>>54822624
Blood Angels can take Primaris Marines so they just got an update.

>>54822598
Nah, Blood Angels got a new chaplain with that campaign with Chaos. Rather spiffy looking chaplain too.

>>54821976
Upon consulting the book of armaments, I have determined that World Eater mutilators can in fact be useful. They can serve as a semi tanky distraction unit to pop up in front of a vulnerable flank while the horde charges from the front.

>>54822697
FINALLY A USE FOR MY RED BUTCHERS!

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Thinking of giving a spare brimstone horrors from the Lord of Change kit a disc, either just for the sake of it or to use as a little familiar. Should I give it the disc from the Tzaangor Shaman kit or one of the discs from the Tzaangor Enlightened kit (probably the one with the mini screamer looking things)? Or I could say screw it and slap it onto the balewind vortex.

>>54822456
oh thank god

>>54822761
The latter

>>54822624
Blood angels had some clampack characters more recently than those.

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How should I paint up my Khorne warband? I wanna keep the core blood and brass look because it works, but I wanna be a bit more original with it. I was thinking throwing in some more brass areas on the armor, not too much, and then making the pauldron inserts black instead of red. Pic semi related.

>>54822624

They haven't had any new models since 5th's revamp.

Blood Angels get updates whenever they gain access to vanilla stuff too.

Even Orks got the morkanaught and Nids get stuff pretty regularly.

If we dont tie all Eldar together (Which is what GW is trying to do), Dark Eldar might be older.

>>54822398

It's a death guard terminator Lord with a scythe. Even if it isn't Typhus, it's still Typhus to within a high margin of error.

>>54822669
They explicitly cite alien player characters in the FAQ. Basically sounds like a new Rogue Trader in spirit.

>What is the focus of Wrath & Glory’s game line?

>Wrath & Glory allows players to take on the roles of characters from the Warhammer 40,000 setting, including intrepid agents of the Imperium of Man and even some of the classic alien races that populate the galaxy.

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>>54821328
I refuse to believe the new GW meme, they're going to fuck it up somehow.

>>54822838
>another fucking terrible low power piece of shit 40k rpg
No thanks, it's like making a Battletech RPG where you play infantry, fucking worthless

>>54822619
>going to bars to meet a potential mate
Jesus fuck, have some sense about you. Enroll in a cooking class or find a hiking group to meet an actual woman and not some stacy looking for her "right now" man

>>54822834
Necrons got new character models with the 7.5 codex didn't they?

>>54822837
Typhus has an iconic helmet and the head is totally different. Not Typhus.

>>54822439
Just buy one of the aos skeleton boxes.

>>54822671

How are two units of 5...say Rangers more ignorable than one unit of 10? generally curious, not being snarky

>>54822804
Those actually came slightly before the new 'crons clampacks.
The Termie cap/karlaen was made before 'crons released, but only got a single model release some time later.

What's a good character to HQ tax a sisters of silence detachment?

>>54822879
Greyfax

>>54822879
Primaris Psyker. Greyfax.

>>54822834
Necrons did get the Obelisk. That was... 2015? I think Dark Eldar saw clampack characters + plastic wracks with their 7th codex. So if you can't find anything that's older than the obelisk, I think Necrons wins this round.

>>54821328
> using based Duncan tutorial
I see you are a man of taste as well

>>54822888

I own her because I play Mechanicus, but isn't she a Psyker?

>>54822879
Going for a talons box? Either way grayfox looks pretty fluffy and well suited

Why do people beg GW to port over all their 30k shit to 40k? Isn't some of that shit broken, one guy wants to copy over all the 30k custards stuff

>>54821383
Links to old threads are gay though.
These threads are so shit that there is never anything worth saving.

>>54822908
They just want them to port over the models, obviously they should fix the broken rules in the translation.

>>54822908
>Isn't some of that shit broken

I don't think that they will port over 30k Magnus so we're good.

>>54822908
Marines should be erased from 40k and stay in 30k where all the fucking cunt faggots can stay. Fucking Marine players ruining 40k as usual.

>>54822903
She is ashamed of being a psyker that does count?

>>54822455
>>54822514
>>54822584
>>54822624

Astra Militarum: April 2014
Dark Eldar: October 2014
Blood Angels: December 2014 (or August 2017 if you count primaris)
Necrons: February 2015
Harlequins: February 2015
Craftworld Eldar: April 2015
Knights: May 2015
Dark Angels: June 2015 (or August 2017 if you count primaris)
Tau: October 2015
Space Wolves: February 2016 (Curse of the Wulfen)
Orks: May 2016 (Wazbom Blastajet)
Sisters of Battle: January 2017 (Celestine)
Inquisition: January 2017 (Greyfax)
Adeptus Mechanicus: January 2017 (Cawl)
Chaos Space Marines: March 2017 (Cypher)
Grey Knights: March 2017 (Voldus)

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>>54822856
Only one, but then everything in the codex already had a model.

>>54822900
Tesseract Vault/Obelisk was 2013, for 6th edition Apocalypse.

>>54822879
Good as in how? Cheapest one? Something actually capable of achieving a thing? If so, what thing do you want it to achieve? If you're looking for beatsticks, Draigo's great. So's the Nemesis Dreadknight Grandmaster. But I suspect their price points might a touch too high for your intentions. So a couple of defined criteria would be nice

>>54822877
What does your opponent achieve by targeting your rangers, providing extra shooting for the wraithguard?

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>>54822942

>>54822903
Militantly anti-psyker psyker.

>>54822967
>>54822903
>>54822943
She's also a lesbian but hates gay people.

>>54822977
Stop shipping her with Celestine.

>>54821904
I doubt Ynnari will get their own codex. Their army is just a combination of codexes that already exist and have priority. I bet they'll just have the Index for the rules, and that's it.

>>54822461
Great thanks anon this is exactly what I needed

>>54821968
I'm hoping this is the case, like khorne daemonkin was.

>>54822997
I'm not. She wants the V but can't have it because Celestine isn't a fucking homo like you anon.

>>54822956
Oooo, him! Forgot all about him. So basically everything that came out in 7th ed got a thing. So we gotta go back to 6th ed. And the first codex of 6th ed is Dark Angels. And Chaos. Both of them have gotten soft updates - Primaris and Tsons/Deathguard/Magnus/Kharn/Ahriman - so they are questionable. After that we have the Tau who recently got a Stormsurge and some new kits and Daemons who got a thirster some 2 years later. After Daemons it was... what was the codex release after daemons? Marines?

>>54821719
Rubric Marines are truescale manlets, while Plague Marines are Primaris scale.

And go Death Guard, they're super cheap off eBay.

>>54821872
Thanks. Now I have a army to play with while I get some more bugs and paint them holy shit

>>54822624
They got the death company chaplin recently. Of course, it doesn't have rules anymore.

They also got a death company tactical box, terminator box, and sanguinary priest kits in the 2015 codex release.

>>54823016
It's pointless anyways since Clestine is dead Kharn killed her.

>>54821719
Plague marines are a bit wider and roughly the same height.
Both ranges are pretty nice though.

>>54823037
>what is her most famous trait

>>54823037
>Clestine
Who?

>>54821968
I can have a two-game army then?

>>54823016

>Celestine isn't a fucking homo like you anon.

Then why is she packaged with two concubines?

Also now that I think about it, since Eleanor and Genevive's models exist, shouldn't a Canoness be able to take a jump pack? Just run them as one.

>>54822894
The primaris psyker is weak, but can't ride in the vehicle with the sisters of silence. Inquisitors can ride in any imperial transport (except land speeder storms).

>>54821773
Desu, possessed are literally better Primaris currently, and the heralds buff them to unholy levels. The only thing I'd ask for us make them 25 points for my autism and let them take the corresponding daemon ability for their mark (quicksilver swiftness, disgustingly resilient etc).

>>54823061
Dat ass?

>>54822948
>Sisters of Battle: January 2017 (Celestine)

Good for another 20 years amirite

>>54823064

Clestine is some random person Kharn killed apparently.

>>54823037
That's another thing. Celestine throwing matches just so she can die to repent. Fucking fetishist jobber. Her headless corpse probably came a little after being decapped by Kharn. Fucking filth she is.

>>54823069
She gets off on dying and having people watch I guess. The fucking cunt. And yeah a Canoness probably should be able to, but GW is retarded.

>>54823069
Did GW said that if a model used to have X gear in Y edition you can just pay the point cost and run with it?
Assuming that is true how much would a Canoness with jump pack cost?

>>54823073

>Greyfax, a psyker, hitching a ride with 9 null maidens

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Black legion epub when?

>>54823121
My GW manager does this every game. Makes me laugh thinking about it. Visually they look fantastic together, but lore wise it's pretty silly. Maybe she feels good hating herself around them.

>>54822948
Astra Militarum arguably got the Tech Priest Enginseer in June 2016.
Dark Eldar haven't had anything specifically for them since the Voidraven Bomber in October 2014, but could be said to have had the Ynarri in February 2017.
Necrons' last model was the overlord in January 2015.
So, depending on how you judge it, it could be Militarum Tempestus, Astra Militarum, Dark Eldar, Blood Angels or Necrons.

>>54822515
Take decent care of yourself, dont devote your entire life to this hobby, be nice but not overly nice still be playful and teasing to her , go places with her make her feel important to you learn about her and make sure she knows

>>54823109
No. They said if there is a datasheet in the index that was removed in the codex you can still run it using the rules from the index. Khan on bike for example.

>>54823131
It about 1 2 3.....

5 Hours.

Alright, quick question. How do the Indexes and the new codexes interact and overlap? For example, if I want to take Roboute Guilliman, can I choose which I use? Different rules govern the in-codex choices. For example, by the Space Marine codex rules, any named character that is your warlord must take their chapter-specific warlord trait. So Roboute must take the Ultramarine warlord trait. Can you instead say he is coming out of the Index and give him the 6+ feel no pain warlord trait instead? How does that work?

>>54822515
Find weird trannies that play this game. There are at least 6 who post here and there's 2 that go to my shop.

>>54822948
>Sisters of Battle: January 2017 (Celestine)
>Inquisition: January 2017 (Greyfax)
>implying those count
Yah maybe Greyfax, but a one time purchase of an already existing special character hardly counts.

>>54823121

>pull over, I need to throw up
>That's the third time in the past half hour
>THEN STOP BLANKING AT ME

>>54822948
What did Dark Angels get in June?

>>54822006

Craftworlds aren't. My Eldar buddy was really struggling so I said I'd take a look at his list and Jesus their Troops are bad. Dire Avengers *have* to be a mistake, they're grossly overpriced past the point of comedy; Rangers are useful, but +2 to cover isn't what it was and they're also crazy expensive compared to everyone else's sniper units; Guardians are just about useable, and when they shoot they do a surprising amount of damage, but 12" range is a real killer.

>>54823161
GW really hates SoB don't they?
Wonder why they haven't axe the army already.

>>54823170
Codex overrides index. Index rules are only usable if it is not in the codex. That's the official stance for matched play. You're free to do whatever you want outside of that.

>>54823209
Just like everyone else on the planet yet, yes we all do.

>>54823215
OK, cool. Just making sure. Saw it in a battle report that I'm fairly sure was filmed after the space marine codex came out. Wasn't sure how it worked.

>>54823170
Codex replaces index. You can use any index entries that are not in the codex alongside stuff from the codex, but you don't get to pick which version to use for the codex units. You must use the most recent datasheet for each unit.

>>54823190
What about the windrider jetbikes?

>>54823183
My bad, it was just a book release, no models. So they haven't had anything specifically for them since January 2013 (although they can obviously take a bunch of space marine stuff which is more recent).

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Currently painting up my Hellhound

Should i give it Inferno cannon + Heavy Flamer and name it 'Napalm Sticks to Kids'

Or Melta Cannon + Mulit-Melta and call it 'White Hot Load'

>>54823209
Army isn't as popular as the vocal internet minority thinks so no regular updates. But GW won't try to popularize the line so it ends up being a circle.
GW won't officially squat it and just keeps it by the wayside

I am new to the HH fluff. Can anyone explain to me what's the deal with that Sigsmund guy? He said that he looked for Abaddon during the siege of Terra and considers it his duty to slay Abaddon no matter what. He literally stood outside the Eye of Terror for a thousand years waiting for Abaddon to emerge. Abaddon seems to have a deep respect for the guy going from the spoilers.

>>54823209
Not really. SoB got very good rules in 8th.

>>54823256
Does Cypher count?

>>54823278
Like 7th. Not intentionally but by accident.
They are copy pasting the WD rules since for ever.

>>54823256
A new Cypher model earlier this year.

>>54823275
>Napalm Sticks to Kids
>not Napalm Sticks to 'nids

>>54822243
2 Archons with 4 snakemen bodyguards each is good tho

>>54823277
Founder of the Black Templars. The original Emperor's Champion. Considered by many the foremost swordsman of the Imperium.

>>54823313
I'm not sure you can call Cypher a DA release, lol

>>54823232
Okay, so in the case of the juggerlord, could I use the index statline since it's not in the codex, and give it codex wargear?

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>>54823183
>>54823256
This guy.

>>54821641
The point is she hates fun

>>54823337
Not sure about the codex wargear but I'm leaning towards yes

>>54823277
Jobber built up so he could make Abaddon look cool.

>>54823332
Any idea why he wants Abaddon's ass?

>>54823352
Mother fucker! I forgot all about him!

>>54822948
What did tau and eldar get in 2015?

>>54823369
he wants to 1v1 him in real life not the warp.

>>54823131

Is it just me that A. hates the laziness of the Black Legion Cult Troops and B. hates the laziness of Black Library for putting just a random Rubric and a Berzerker on the cover instead of actual art for Khayon and Firefist?

>>54823396
New Windrider Jetbikes among other things and new suits.

>>54823352
neat armor

>>54823337
You have to follow the points values and weapon options in the index I believe, because that's considered part of the index datasheet. Not 100% certain on the points though. But you could give him a Relic and Warlord Trait from the codex. Those just care that you're a character and/or Warlord with the right tags.

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>>54823277
Sigismund is Rogal Dorn's most accomplished swordsman and the Emperor's Champion, he was undefeated during the Great Crusade and the Emperor tasked him with going out of the Imperial Palace and seek the champions of chaos and fucking kill them all. So he was given armor and weapons and he went alone into the lines of the legions of Horus and came back alive.

After the Heresy Sigismund would lead the Black Templars, a chapter bent on hatred of the traitor and always on the attack which is why its fitting for him to be at the gate of the eye waiting for the traitor to eventually get out.

>>54823369
Dorn disowned and banished Sigismund for being a glory hound, he probably thinks if he can kill Abbadon, he could redeem himself.

>>54822785
Alright. I was thinking that might be a tad bit fitting, given it would be a bunch of mini daemons with a mini daemon riding on top.

>>54823236

Fast Attack now, buddy, no more Saim-Hann armies. I don't know if I'm sad, because jetbikes are integral to Eldar's feel, or good riddance, because 7th edition PTSD.

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>>54823411
Buy the limited edition version for the exclusive art, poorfag.

>>54823369
When he became the Emperor's Champion during the Battle of Terra he sword a vow to fight and kill all the chaos champions. Abaddon was the highest ranking one remaining that he never got a chance at.

>>54823425
Are the rest of the Marine chapters even trying?

>>54823435
Oh shit. For real? Huh. Well, not that it matters much unless you want to run Battalions.

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What colour should I paint the metal of my Foetid Bloat Drone?

Leadbelcher?

Balthazar Gold?

>>54823066
Daemons already are a 2game army.

But meant if Death Guard has two Warlord trees (one for CSM and one for Daemons). Etc.

>>54823450

I wish I was a poorfag, post-scarcity ennui is real

But no, top-tier though ADB's prose is, I'm not paying Black Library more than I have to, and I don't really want to read more about how great Abaddon is and how Khayon's strong independent woman sister can drive the Vengeful Spirit all by herself.

>>54823190

What if, and this is a crazy idea, you build a non-trooped detachment then?

Elite heavy would be good, they have a shit ton of elite choices. Make aspects your "troops"

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>>54823466
Oops meant this picture.

>>54823435
You can run them via Outrider Detachments. There are just some downsides you'd have to accept.

If a twin linked lascannon gets two successful attack and wound rolls, does it do 1d6 or two d6 damage?

>>54823425
Did he end up fighting Kharn at the siege of Terra? I know Kharn died for the first time there but they've probably changed a lot since I've read anything on it.

>>54823466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96RYPJIbJ_k
I was thinking of doing something like this, maybe with some verdigris.

>>54823487
1 d6

>>54823487
two seperate d6s of damage. You actually do each shot one at a time technically rules wise.

>>54823500
Who killed Kharn at Terra is a mystery, maybe he simply succumbed to his wounds after 1v10, maybe he met Sigismund and got blown the fuck out, who knows. I personally like the idea of Kharn dying to Sigismund.

>>54823480
>>54823486

Both good shouts, I'll pass it on. Sadly his other main army is AdMech, who I think are just boned from the price of the Magos Dominus in points and £££.

>>54823487
Twin guns are just two guns that can't splitfire relative to each other. They are resolved as separate shots. So two d6 damage rolls.

>>54823533
I like the idea he got lost in frenzy and died fighting chaos forces by mistake.

>>54823534

Lack of cheap HQs to fill taxes after your first HQ is a bitch, yeah.

>>54823533
Same. It'd be a fitting first death for him and one hell of a duel.

So, how's summoning? Putting 150pts aside so your deep-striking jetpack sorcs can summon two ten-man units of bloodletters to rip and tear sounds kinda decent.

>>54823318
fuck thats actually pretty good
expect it on the tank in the next few days

>>54823455
Seeing as the Templars are the closest to the Emperor's ideal for what the Space Marines should be doing, no the others are not trying.

>>54823275
youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY

For Inquisition Acolytes, their BS/WS/Sv is shit so I'm thinking that keeping them cheap is best so they can take hits for my melee Inquisitor. Everyone seems to agree that giving them Storm Bolters is the best bang for the buck, but I have no easy way to convert that many. I have access to a bunch of boltguns so I was thinking I would just do that instead. Do you think it's worth it? Or should I try to aim for Storm Bolters or something like Power Mauls and Needle Pistols?

>>54823671
thats part of the reason i named it

the other being a cadence that goes -
'Napalm Sticks to Kids'
'Napalm Sticks to Kids like glue'
'Sticks to their mommy and their daddy too'

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>Dark Crusade was 11 years ago

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>>54823173
>dating a tranny

>>54823594
>turn 1: deepstrike sorc in
alright now assume for some reason they still exist and weren't just plinked off
>turn 2: summon in a blob of bloodletters who may or may not make their charge into bubble wrap

Summoning is much better used from dudes who aren't moving because they are A. heavy weapons characters B. in melee already and want to surround the enemy with summoned shit to prevent escape or C. cheap shit like malefic lords who can afford not to move for a turn because they smite and summon and that is it. sorcs are too valuable to be doing any of this stuff really unless you bring in more raptors to also warptime to give them a chance

>>54823718

Date? No no no, anon, you marry them quickly, so you get all their models when they hang themselves.

>>54821001

>a cultist is the same price as a guardsman

what's the cultist statline? How do they compare?

>>54823677
>get random guardsmen
>cut the tip of the lasgun
>grenade launcher cut the tip, add two barrels
>inquisitorial Storm Bolter
Done. Is not like GW made human size Storm Bolters

>>54821306
How many cigarettes do you think she smokes per minute? She looks like she's going to crumple into ashes.

>>54823737
not a chaos player but its the same as a guardsman but with more attacks and a 6+ instead of a 5+

>>54823594
You can't summon on the turn you come in deployment.

However I think its pretty great, especially if you give your guys instruments.

The new Codex makes 30 Bloodletters or something cheaper since the got lowered Power Levels. And they just need to make an 8 to charge, and spending one command point on that is worth it.

>>54821641
WHITE KNIGHT ALERT!

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>>54823736
>so you get all their models when they hang themselves.

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>>54823677
Storm Bolters are really good for the points. You could convert them combi-bolter style from bolters by just putting two barrels on the end of a Bolter.

>>54823624
Can't wait

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Snake/worm like burrowing Tyranids when?