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Alright you silly fucks, it appears you're in desperate need of some guidance, because the board is not doing well.

What's wrong with the board you ask? Well, the main thing is that everyone is unhappy with the current state of things, usually because someone else is complaining about the current state of things that they're ok with.

In other words, there's too many complaints on here. About everything.

>Quests/Anti-Quests
Shut up! I'm talking! And I'm important because I posted this thread. If anything, your annoyance with my arrogance should be the most concern to you right now.

>KYS/Other Insults
Shut up! I'm talking! And I'm far too concerned with what I'm saying to actually aknowledge any negative statements. Please hold all insults for someone who actually cares.

>Autism
You bet your ass it is! I'm going to Hyperfocus on my point, and my point alone and fuck all if you say anything that doesn't directly pertain to or support it.

Now that we've actually gotten past why anything you say to me to convince me otherwise is of very little importance, let's get down to business.

Long story short, the main reason the board is in the sorry state it's in is because you folks aren't already following my advice, and my advice is just this, and this alone:

Ignore things you don't like, focus on what you do like, and enjoy yourself on the board by enjoying your hobbies! Stop being so cynical, stop complaining, and start having fun!

If you found any part of this post annoying or enraginv, Good! I don't care.

Enjoy your improved /tg/ experience.
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>>54815621
Was it, dare I say, autism?
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>>54815621
>Stop being so cynical, stop complaining, and start having fun!
But being cynical and complaining is how i am having fun.
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>>54815621
B-but what if someone likes things I don't like?
W-what if someone has fun in a way I wouldn't?
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>>54815621
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>>54815660
Stop it! You and I both know that you're actually quite unhappy with your current lot in life, and lack a certain degree of fulfillment in some aspect whether it be with work, love, or socially. Thus you use Shitposting as a self-defense mechanism to avoid dealing with these issues and instead try and indirectly dump your baggage on us.

So what's the real problem, anon?

>>54815668
If these thoughts persist and invade your personal life on a deep emotional level you should seek out therapy.

If it's only when it's presented in front of your face, your should keep scrolling or find a new thread, and keep it out of your face.
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>>54815621
Bring quests back.

I feel like we could use more thread diversity. I feel like /qst/ being its own board kinda kills it because I never went out of my way to go on a quest thread. If it was cool I'd check it out.

That's my only gripe. Its elf shit posting, stat me, made play saw, and generals.

I still think /tg/ is a great place to discuss games but I feel like quests were a good source of original content.
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>>54815807
No. Shut up. That opinion only results in being opposed by the opposite opinion which results in a cycle of retardation that's more stupid than anything /v/ or /pol/ could come up with if they both worked together and TRIED to be moronic.
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>>54815621
A thread died for this. Time to rescue it with titty elves.
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>>54815807
Back to the Paizo forums.
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>>54815869
Yes, a thread died for this and I mailed it's pointy-eared corpse to Virt so he could jack off to it.

Also the Elftits are passe at best. Needs more Vavoom!
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Heavy metal elves
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>>54815869
Gotte have sauce on those two.
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>>54815904
Better. Needs more 80's though. There should be lightning and a large bird of prey in there somewhere.

This is honestly the best use of this thread. Any more and we'd actually make the mistake of taking anything I said above seriously.
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>>54815621

1. Keep all the 40k shitposting in a single thread please. You can have a general for each game and an off topic thread, MAXIMUM! Or get your own damn board.

2. Keep "Stat me"-posts to a single thread.

3. Wait until summer is over, it's not that long left.

4. I know that /tg/ is Generals: The Boarding, but I've kind of grown to like it.
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This is better >>54815904 then this >>54815869. Remember folks, Japan should of been nuked a couple of more times.
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>>54815945
No! Shut. Up. The Generals subject is the same as the Quests subject: it only breeds stupidity and contempt. Ignore it.

Instead, find a DIFFERENT thread to pay attention to.

>>54815954
Nah, one is a painting, the other is an animation. A medium developed for movement necessitates a simpler art style, as it requires both speech and movement to convey more meaning.

A painting by contrast, needs more detail.

Also the anti-anime/pro-anime thing is the same a the above: it's merely an excersize in stupidity, and all it does is develop retard strength and negativity.
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>>54815621
Things are fine and the usual for the past years.
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>>54816159
Not when /edh/, reputedly one of the more decent generals, has gone to complete Shit over arguing about the presence of a Discord link. A problem, mind you, that literally solves itself by being present until it no longer is. Discord communities kill themselves.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg, there's so much idiocy going on here, and you think I'm on my high horse here, but no, I have been making stupid mistakes left and right on /tg/ and I Still can take one look at some of the problems around here and marvel at the level of stupidity.
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>>54816023
I was actually making a joke about the Japan part. I prefer paintings compared to anime for my fantasy, thus why the painting is better then the anime picture to me. Also I prefer my elves to look more like elves then titty monsters with long ears.
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>>54815621
but we love hating things!
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>>54816255
Yes, but are you hating to hate? Or are you hating "all in good fun?" I'm not seeing any of the latter around here.
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Is it just me, or have there not been a lot of interesting threads that aren't generals lately? I know, "be the change you want to see", but I'm just asking cause I'm not sure if it's just me or something others have been noticing too.

Also, you know, it feels a little empty without quests anymore, and /qst/ is stagnant and dull. But discussion on that only ever seems to bring out angry autists that want to scream down opposing opinions rather than have a normal discussion about the matter, so I dunno.
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We need more of these two.
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>>54816646
Sure, if the author started tripcoding and posting regularly on here. I'd respect it.

At least it would halt the accusations that the guy just shills his art in random threads. You get Drawfags on here regularly, and taking a more active role in the community besides in the drawthread and yeah, I'd definitely say that would improve the board.
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>>54816683
>You get Drawfags on here regularly

Do we? There's randoms in the drawthread, but no one I'd call regular except that pencil dude who draws eldar smut.
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>>54816772
No, I was implying that we should get them on here regularly.
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>>54816609
We keep telling you why. But you don't want to hear it.
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>>54816858
Oh. Well, yeah. I've actually noticed a lot of hostility towards drawfags (and writefags) on /tg/, and that's the kind of shit that needs to stop.
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>>54816683
>>54816858

That's a laugh. nu/tg/ hates people who create any sort of content.
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>>54815807
>Bring quests back.
Yes please

>I feel like we could use more thread diversity. I feel like /qst/ being its own board kinda kills it because I never went out of my way to go on a quest thread. If it was cool I'd check it out.
This is the main reason why /qst/ is a dead board.

>>54816609
>Also, you know, it feels a little empty without quests anymore, and /qst/ is stagnant and dull. But discussion on that only ever seems to bring out angry autists that want to scream down opposing opinions rather than have a normal discussion about the matter

The problem with discussing quests on /tg/ is that anime quests poisoned the well, so now the people who liked having quest threads on this board are constantly met with "hurr loli haremshit quest #6485248, so quality, much creative". We know that /tg/ produced a lot of fun quests prior to moot moving all the /a/ quests here, but having to qualify every statement with "not including the migrant quests from /a/" sandbags the discussion.

For the record, I would like to see quest threads allowed on /tg/ and /qst/ to remain as a board for non-/tg/ quests (harem simulators, /b/-tier quests, etc.
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>>54815621
can you punch the bad threads away
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>>54817092
You are the guy who poisons the well on any /tg/ discussion.

It's a dead subject. Drop it already. Not only is your rationale built on nothing but bizarre conjecture at odds with all the evidence (blaming anime quests? What kind of retarded true Scotsman fallacy are you trying to conjure up?), the bottom line has already been laid out for you. There's /qst/, and the discussion is over.
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>>54815869
Hmm. If we presume that, on average, elven women have massive breasts, what results?

1) The elves discovered Lycra in the distant past, and made the first sports bras, of which human sports bras are but a pale imitation. Elven women proceeded to invent clothing which was incredibly revealing but very supportive, a trick human clothiers have never managed to duplicate. A custom-fitted bra made by the elven lingerie masters is worth a queen's ransom.

2) There's a lot of pressure on human women to find ways to increase the size of their breasts, even if elves are rare. It's amusing to think about a noble quest for effective breast enhancement, but this is probably too silly to work.

3) Male elves probably view human women as being something like DFC lolis. Some elven perverts might find this attractive.

Is it more interesting if elven men are sexier than human men? It seems fair, doesn't it?
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>>54815621
Having a separate board for quest threads makes about as much sense as having a separate board for generals.
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quests are merely a spook

In all seriousness: it relies on the people of the board to be better. Stop replying to bait. Start visiting and replying to low-activity threads. You may find the quality of discussion improves significantly.
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>>54817654
>>54817092
No. Shut Up. Again, dumb subject is dumb discussion, only repeating the same result with more effort. If you actually gave a fuck about Quests you would all go to the IRC on Rizon and request Quests be put back directly until you annoyed the mods into action... which is how they got banned in the first place.

Talking about it on here only hurts your argument.
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>>54817735
That's just a mythology that people have been trying to repeat until it replaces the truth, you falseflagging faggot.

Long story short, the mods saw a large number of quests, and the relation to traditional games was growing more and more tangential. /qst/ wasn't originally supposed to be a "containment board" but a recognition of the popularity of quests, and they even provided extra features to help quest runners.

But, now, a minority of /qst/ users feel compelled to complain incessantly about /qst/, and not to the mods, but to people on /tg/. Their complaints are basically "We don't like the special features!" and "Quests aren't that popular!", like that's somehow /tg/'s fault.

Don't like the special features? Ask the mods to give the OP more decisive power on whether to implement those features. Don't think quests are popular enough for their own board? /qst/ is more active than several other boards, and though it's not as active as /tg/ is, that's not /tg/'s fault.

/qst/ is a /qst/ issue. It's may consider /tg/ as its parent, but it's when you tried to move back in that the mods finally went ahead and made the second sticky that basically banned quests from /tg/.
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>>54816898
Okay, well then let's have this discussion then. None of the angry ranting, none of the "Shut up fag" bullshit, let's have a real discussion about this. If you have an argument, by all means I want to hear it. But since I'm posting first, let me make my case first, if you don't mind.

If you go over to /qst/ right now, you'll see that the board's terribly stagnant. Threads can stay on there for days after hitting autosage, and the majority don't even do that; People just stop posting. Quests have always been a minority, even in their prime they only took up a small percentage of space on /tg/; At most, I've seen 14 quest threads on /tg/ at one time, and that was during the most active time frame for quests; Evenings EST on a weekend. /tg/ has space for 150 threads at a time, excluding the two sticky threads. That's about 9.33% of space taken by quest threads, the other 90.67% is taken by normal /tg/ threads. That's negligible space taken during peak hours for questing.

Now imagine a board where only 14 out of 150 threads are active. That's /qst/. The reason for that is because while plenty of people read and post in quest threads, very few actually run quests. They just don't have time or feel they lack the creative or writing talent to make anything good. Very few people are going to have the same misgivings about starting a normal thread, because unlike quests you just make one thread and then move on, there's no commitment like with starting a quest. Granted, you can just do a one-shot quest, but that still takes more creativity than simply striking up a conversation about X thing in Y system.

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>>54817891
Moreover, a lot of the activity quests got came from the fact that people on /tg/, a fairly active board, would see one that catches their interest and drop by to participate, just to see if it's worth following. /qst/ doesn't have that kind of activity. You only have a small number of threads active at one time, which also dwindles during work hours EST. You don't have new people noticing active threads and stopping by to participate, so instead your average person has a small number of quests they follow, not paying much attention to any other quests. Thus the playerbase for games dwindle, and new quests really struggle to gather players so they can actually run. I've seen new quests that were lucky to have 5 active players, and that's an okay-ish start by /qst/ standards. As a result, quests move slow as you wait for people to vote. Because it takes so long, the QM often has to step out for a bit to handle IRL things, then the players vote and have to wait for the QM to come back, causing this loop of slow activity that can makes quests stagnant and boring. This causes some players to drop, and then the quest doesn't even have enough players to continue.

All this really seems to prove that a quest board isn't necessary. In fact, the invention of /qst/ has done more to strangle and kill questing than to give them a space to have fun in peace. There's really no point in having a board where only a handful of threads are active at any time, and as I've mentioned, quests never really took up much space on /tg/ either. And in a way, they help to get newcomers interested in /tg/. When I first found /tg/, I didn't even play tabletop. Then I checked out the CYOA threads, participated in a quest, and started getting interested in playing in an actual game. It was a good way to sort of dip my toes in, essentially.

But that's my reasoning, sorry for typing so much. Now, please, share your own reasoning and let's actually discuss this instead of slinging shit.
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>>54817891
>>54817897
Questfags are stupid and said they would rather shitpost than try to fix /qst/ so fuck them and fuck you.
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>>54815621
I just wish miss were more draconian, just hand out 2 day bans left and right. Stomp shitposts into grit and salt the fucking earth. I don't care if it makes this board a ghost town at this point I can't get through a single thread without someonse posting some forced meme, /pol, cuck, smug fucking :^) faces, or just blatant shitflinging.
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>>54815621
>>Stop being so cynical, stop complaining, and start having fun!

"Stop having fun, and start having fun!"
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>>54817891
>>54817897

Quests are unique, in that the thread is pointless unless the quest runner is there, and they tend to run over the course of weeks with some quests running for years. Also, the activity fluctuates dramatically depending on the time, with evening being far more active than during the day, to the point where if it was reintroduced back into /tg/, evenings would become a clusterfuck because that's also when regular /tg/ discussion is most active.

In truth, quests don't belong on 4chan at all. At all. The transitory image board format just isn't suited for what the most popular quests require, and they would be far better off on some roleplaying text board. But, the mods went out of there way to try and help facilitate the different structure that quests need, without compromising the rest of /tg/ discussion.

And, yet, you guys STILL bitch and moan. Even though /qst/ is still more active than plenty of other boards (want to talk about /gd/ for a minute?), you have the gall to act like 10-20% of a board is a negligible amount to dedicate to something that is a dramatic departure of what 4chan boards are designed to facilitate.
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>>54817237
>bizarre conjecture at odds with all the evidence (blaming anime quests? What kind of retarded true Scotsman fallacy are you trying to conjure up?)

It's pretty simple: the quests that were moved to /tg/ from /a/ are anime quests. The quests that were created on /tg/ prior to all quests from other boards being moved to /tg/ are /tg/ quests.

You might be too new to remember this, but the complaints about quest threads on /tg/ really only started after moot moved all the /a/ quests onto this board. Prior to that, you only saw a random troll here and there, but for the most part quests weren't an issue to anyone browsing /tg/.

However, it seems like a lot of the posters on /a/ are wannabe visual novel writers, so the number of threads herded here from /a/ was more than the total number of quests original to /tg/.
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>>54818054
This is half lies, all conjecture, and absolutely irrelevant.

If your entire argument is based on your highly subjective interpretation of the past, and somehow still fails to make anything resembling a point, is it any wonder why people are so fucking tired of you idiots complaining about /qst/ here?
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>>54817311

The idea of elves as the fair folk, with both genders being just plain better than their human equivalents is pretty standard.

That being said it all depends on presentation and personal taste. After all beauty is in the eye of the beholder and completely subjective. What if all elf females were built like our super models? Really tall and thin, very elegant, but I prefer women with curves to bean poles ( yes I'm aware we were just discussing giant titty elves, in which case what about the guys who like smaller breasts)

What if all elf men are absolute pretty boys. Total bishies. Well some women like that, but some women prefer a more rugged look, with a stronger jawline and harsher more masculine features. It's all a matter of taste so saying x race is objectively better looking is kind of impossible, because you'll find people who like something else better.
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>>54815621

99 percent certain I know who you are. I thought you were moving away from shitposting to try and force change, and had decided to start contributing positively since you couldn't shame/ infuriate people into changing themselves. Why keep doing this kind of shit even now, I thought the whole point of giving up the name was that you were done with this kind of shit and would go back to trying to make the good threads like you were behind last december.
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>>54818135
>you're wrong and dumb and I hate you!
Pretty compelling argument. Not sure who you hope to convince, but everyone who's been on /tg/ since before 2014 will remember the day that moot decided all quests sitewide had to be posted on /tg/.

>why do so many people here complain about /qst/?
Because lots of people here liked having quest threads on this board and dislike having them on /qst/.
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>>54817926
Okay, well I'm not those people, and neither are the majority of people who enjoyed quests. Every group has its shitposters, why are you taking what shitposters say and do and construing it as the entire group's thoughts and actions?

>>54818025
>Also, the activity fluctuates dramatically depending on the time, with evening being far more active than during the day, to the point where if it was reintroduced back into /tg/, evenings would become a clusterfuck because that's also when regular /tg/ discussion is most active.
I can understand the concern, but again, even during peak hours /tg/ had roughly 14 quest threads on the board at most, that's including inactive threads that just hadn't fallen off yet. I don't think it would really be that much of a clusterfuck.

>In truth, quests don't belong on 4chan at all
That's a fair enough thing to say. I don't necessarily agree, but I can understand why someone might say that. That largely comes down to a matter of opinion though, since quests -did- succeed on /tg/ before the migration, so there's no real way to argue either way on that point. Like I said, fair enough.

>But, the mods went out of there way to try and help facilitate the different structure that quests need, without compromising the rest of /tg/ discussion.
Also a fair point. However, /qst/ has been going for months now, and it's a graveyard of inactivity. It's among the slowest board on 4chan, which would be annoying for most topics but for quests it actively kills the subject. Slow quests die from lack of interest, and because there's so few players in any one thread, there's no real way to -not- be slow. Sure, there are slower boards like /gd/, but at least /gd/ doesn't have an active, direct negative impact from the lack of activity (aside from the obvious drawback of not having fast coversations). I appreciate the mods efforts, but it simply isn't working out, so there's no reason to keep /qst/.

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>>54818368
>And, yet, you guys STILL bitch and moan.
Again, I don't want this to turn into shitflinging, so please don't turn it into that. And I have the "gall" to say that 10% of a board isn't that bad because quests -were- /tg/ related. What's a session of DnD? A group of people gather around a DM who presents scenarios to a small group of people who have their own characters and react according to how their characters would react, using dice rolls to determine results where dramatically appropriate. What's a quest thread? A large group of people gather around a QM who presents scenarios to a large group of people who have a single character and vote on how to react according to how they perceive the character, using dice rolls to determine results where dramatically appropriate. It's barely different from a text game of DnD on roll20. So what makes it not /tg/ related, the settings of the quests? If that's the case, we're gonna have to decide what's /tg/ related or not. Is sci-fi /tg/? Is post-apocalypse /tg/? Are mundane modern settings /tg/? Or is the problem that some of the quests were anime related, or use anime art? If that's the case, are we going to ban people for using anime reaction images? Are we going to ban threads talking about how they use X thing from Y anime as inspiration for something in their setting/character?

And for that matter, if 14 threads is so much space, consider that there are 39 general threads on /tg/ right now. That's a little over twice the amount of quest threads at peak hours, and it's not even peak hours right now; It's 10:45 AM EST. if 14 threads out of 150 is too much, why don't we have /tgg/ - Traditional Game Generals? It worked for /v/ and /vg/, and apparently 14 is enough to warrant a new board, so why not?
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>>54818322
Can you drop the whole "look at me provide zero substance but still prance around like I'm not talking out my ass" act? All you've got is bullshit and personal definitions, all to try and say "it's not ALL quests, just the quests I don't like that people didn't like."

And, as someone who's guaranteed to have been here longer than you have (unless you were also posting on the first day of /tg/'s existence), you also need to be careful of who you try to play the newfag card against.

>Because lots of people here liked having quest threads on this board and dislike having them on /qst/.

I bet, because it was basically free advertising to have quests on a more active board. If you really are upset about quests not having the same publicity as they had before, buy some ads. 4chan ads are pretty cheap, all things considered.
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>>54815621
Yeah whatever OP. You are obviously the prophet to end all prophets.
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>>54815807
Shut the fuck up.
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>>54815621
>How to fix /tg/

Bring back quest threads.
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>>54818414
>And, as someone who's guaranteed to have been here longer than you have (unless you were also posting on the first day of /tg/'s existence), you also need to be careful of who you try to play the newfag card against.
I've been on /tg/ since day one.

Quest threads were fun. They should be allowed back here.
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>>54818546
If quests threads are fun, go to /qst/. Bottom line, end of discussion, buy some ads if you are upset about not enough people paying attention to your favorite quests.
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Quests should stay on /qst/ if only for the fact that the board is tailor made for them and the slower moving ones would get pushed off by everything else.
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>>54815621
>enragiv
THESE TYPOS FUCK
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>>54818264
Alright, yeah, you got me. Call it a moment of weakness and sleep-deprivation. Give me a few hours of sleep and some time to compile the Fading Embers Setting into a 1d4chan page, and I'll get some real, quality threads started.

Is it that obvious though? I guess that style of me Pre-empting the predictable responses in the most arrogant, annoying way possible is fairly unique.
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>>54818568
Quest threads were fun on /tg/ because most of the people who understand how to play quest threads are on /tg/.

It would make more sense to allow quest threads on the board where the majority of people interested in quests are (which is /tg/).
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>>54819010
Or apparently /a/. But really, the board where the majority of people in quests are happens to be /qst/, so by your own reasoning you should shut up already.

It makes sense to give them their own board, because they don't really fit the thread structure of any of the other boards, or really 4chan at all. And shut the fuck up about the board being slow when it's still plenty faster than many other boards.

God, what an entitled little bitch you are.
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>>54818669

Can't speak for anyone else, but to me personally you have a pretty distinctive and recognizable style. I've been with you from the fvtg thread on. Between all the shit posting and your frquent participation in meta threads I feel like I've got you pretty well pegged. Nkt a bad thing, just kinda fun every now and again to say oh hey look its that guy. Now the real question, can you identify me?
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>>54819133
>Or apparently /a/.

That would be fine if quest threads were allowed on all boards. Then /a/ could enjoy their visual novel railroads and we could have Lego Quest back here.
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>>54819264
Bitch on /a/ then. Or /qst/. Or directly to the mods.
But quit bitching here.
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Quesfags, keep moving. This is a traditional gamer board.
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>>54815621
>Asking people to be reasonable and not pick fights in threads they have no business in
I agree with you, this is the solution. However, believing anons will ever behave is... Naive.
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>>54819010
Quests are diametrically opposed to the very nature of /tg/. They encourage low-content responses instead of measured discussion. They centralize activity around one poster without whom the thread immediately dies. They expect you to have a persistent knowledge of the past threads on a board designed to let old threads slip into oblivion.

More cynically, if a quest cannot survive on /qst/, we probably wouldn't have cared about it on /tg/ anyways.
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>>54815852
Basically every complaint about quests was from a "stop with things I don't like" perspective. The reasons they gave were all bullshit to hide the plain dislike of that crap.

>First page!
Use catalog, or learn to ignore things you dislike

>They are still showing up!
Filters.

>They are too many
That's because you're using the search function rather than counting by hand, which would lead to the conclusion they were 10-20 threads in a given time. Added to this is the fact that they are not actually part of a singular "topic".

>But they are cancer
Not /pol/ x Tumblr shitposting. Not the one line OP threads with a question or statement that gets 10 replies and dies.
The things killing this board are cyoas, quests, and galatic federation threads (2 of which already got banned off /tg/. Threads about roleplaying and stories, those are ruining /tg/.

>They are gaining a board, it's good for both of us
A board which none of them asked for, is basically a useless dead piece and... Well it's here. That ship has sailed.

Don't get me wrong, /qst/ is here and it should really stay. I'm complaining about the reasons it was created.
They are symptons of the generalized stupidity and narrowminded views that come from the autistic userbase.
But it doesn't matter. We'll keep doing the wrong things to "solve" this problem, because ultimately it's impossible for each and every anon to examine their actions.
It'a impossible for a board that is mobilized by autists to eliminate autism.
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>>54817884
>Due to their popularity
They weren't much more than 10% of threads on /tg/ at any given time, and /tg/ is already a slow-ish board. I personally counted multiple times and you can probably use the archive (not suptg) to do it. You think that was popular enough?
Proof of this: /qst/ is one of the slowest boards currently.

>Extra features to help quests
How does that matter? Those were asked for in the thread were the mod announced they would be making this move.
This wasn't something that was being demanded by questfags, but by people who constantly went into these threads they disliked to complain about them.
Or who made metathreads to complain about those other threads.

Stop twisting facts to suit your narrative.
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>>54819542
> I'm complaining about the reasons it was created.

Your imagined reasons based on no evidence?
Quit acting like it was a few trolls that got /qst/ made, and you probably will have a saner vision of this website in general.

Fuck, you really think you've got some special insight into the minds of the moderators, that's completely at odds with the available evidence?

Yes, people complained about quests. But, there's a number of more important factors as to why /qst/ was made (lwhich you have tried to either dismiss or ignore purely so you can keep running your mouth with your empty narrative), and you're much better off shutting the fuck up already instead of trying to promote this myth that is exactly the idea you're professing you want to discourage.
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>>54818135
Right, when you pals bitched incessantly about quest threads, tried to derail them and made metathreads about it, it was all just fine.
But now it's annoying. Gotcha.
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>>54819285
>Hiro says we can have a metathread to talk about problems with /tg/
>but not this specific problem with /tg/!

Why are you always trying to ban things that lots of people on /tg/ enjoy having on /tg/?

Can't you just ignore the threads that you aren't interested in?
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>>54819311
I'm glad that with the exodus of quests /tg/ has been able to embrace high-content responses with measures discussion, like that one thread yesterday where somebody asked for resources on playing a new roleplaying game and some guy immediately started shouting at everyone in the thread over the art style being indicative of a cultural marxist agenda in gaming
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>>54819629
/tg/ is one of the fastest board. It's within the top 10.

And, /qst/ isn't the slowest board, not by a long shot. Until it's the slowest board, you really don't have much of a case. I mean, look at /cm/, /n/, /gd/, and the other actually slow boards, and count your blessings.

>Stop twisting facts to suit your narrative.

Right back at you.
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>>54819666
Fuck off, Satan. In the past I never complained about quests on /tg/ and even defended them, since at the time /tg/ really was the best board suited for them.

Times have changed, and now /qst/ exists, and now you can shut the fuck up, you little bitch.
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>>54819723

Wut?
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>>54819639
Okay buddy, you're totally right. The mods made /qst/ because quests were so popular and were smothering /tg/. Now it's probably slow because everyone who was in it died of cancer.

Kindly fuck off.
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>>54815621
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>>54819542
>Use catalog, or learn to ignore things you dislike
A visitor from another board isn't going to dive through the whole catalog or set up filters. They'll glance through the top of the board and move on. By occupying the highest visibility spots quests are strangling the rest of the board.

Also all those fuckers who never tagged their thread properly to make filters work reliably. It's a technical solution that requires everyone to opt in, and guess who benefits by not doing so.
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>>54819763
>Little bitch
Can I let you in on a secret? People who bitched about quests sometimes can still be seen blaming them for /tg/s quality. Shocking isn't it?

>I defended quests
If you read my posts (specifically the first) you'll see I'm not asking to destroy /qst/, I'm calling out to people who create fake arguments as to why it was made.
I don't care about the quests being here or there, I care about the mentality of users.

You reek of a faggot trying to pretend ti be something he is not to shut down opinions about his bullshit
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>>54819861
>Never tagged their threads properly
I don't know of any who did it intentionally, but I don't doubt it.
Yeah, that is a bad move.
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>>54819723
That's certainly more of a discussion than a half dozen people arguing over whether to take a left turn or a right turn at a hallway intersection, or which girl they should be romancing.
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>>54819801
Quests don't fit /tg/'s format. They don't really fit 4chan's format either.

And, it being slower than /tg/ doesn't make it slow. It just means quests are roughly as popular as talking about going outside or doing things yourself, but still more popular than stuff like graphic design or paper crafts.

You really have nothing to complain about aside from that you want quests to be advertised on more active boards, and for that there's a simple answer of go buy an ad and shut the fuck up.
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>>54819865
> I'm calling out to people who create fake arguments as to why it was made.

Burden of proof falls on you to prove that the mods were cowed by trolls into making /qst/, rather than it just being the natural process of boards being split and created.

So, stop being a little bitch and calling other arguments fake when you've got nothing but butthurt head conspiracies.
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I just want /tg/ to stop being so cynical about everything, and to stop shitting on every game that's not Warhammer or D&D.
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>>54819991
They shit on both Warhammer and D&D too.
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>>54820007
We're equal opportunity shitters.
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>>54819968
>Butthurt conspiracies
Oh, I'm sorry, let me rephrase that:

>Why it was necessary
The mods did what they wanted. I'm going to urge you to read the first post where I say whether or not the board is there doesn't matter to me, and the post were I mention mentality.
I'm arguing agains the mentality of people who shit on quests, the ones you claimed to have argued against, you annoying cunt.
I'm not asking to delete /qst/, and I'm not spewing conspiracies, I'm directly pointing out the people bitched-out about quests were fucking mongs and their arguments were shit.
You are free to go and reread sais arguments, but I feel like you are just one of these mongs trying to pretend we are talking about something else so you don't need to face how fucking bad your points were.
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>>54819861
>all those fuckers who never tagged their thread properly to make filters work reliably
Ah yes, the one faggot who you have a screencap of, and all the other questfags that we should just take your word about.
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>>54820086
People bitch about EVERYTHING.
I don't see an /elf/ board.

I defended quests because many of the arguments against them were unsound. I never defended their quality, or bothered with debating over what percentage of a board should be dedicated to threads that demand reading through fifty previous threads in order to participate in them, what I defended quests with is the fact that back then, there was no better board for them.

That's no longer the case. There is now a board dedicated to them, and trying to conjure up all these bullshit reasons as to why people should be somehow ashamed of /qst/ rather than proud of it is just too much.

At first, /qst/ was optional. They made it honestly believing that people would elect to go there, that they wouldn't see it as some punishment or containment board, and that people would be happy to have a slower board that would let slower quest threads survive long enough to gain followings.

What they didn't account for, but in hindsight should have, was that the only reason QM's posted on /tg/ to begin with was that they wanted the free exposure and advertising their threads would get by having a constantly bumped thread on one of 4chan's more popular boards. Otherwise, they would be running their quests on sites that didn't require supplementary archives and wikis in order to support them.

These little bitches are what eventually made /qst/ mandatory for quests, and why every meta discussion still ends up with you bitches still bitching, and lying, about why /qst/ exists and why everyone is so fucking tired of hearing you bitches bitch.

So, shut the fuck up about quests already. It's a dead subject, because no amount of bitching here will bring quests back.
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>>54820007
Maybe he just hates warhammer and D&D and doesn't mind us shitting on them.
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Really I just wish for /tg/ to stop falling for easy bait and dial back on lazy, low-energy threads, though really a lot of 4chan could use that advice these days.
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>>54820295
/elf/ when?
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>>54820327
Without quest threads to keep people here entertained, bait threads are the next-best substitute.

/tg/'s not going to be a good board until it stops having dedicated mods, because having a mod who resides here means that he's going to ban the board-related content that he personally doesn't like.

/tg/ was best when we didn't have mods and people only got banned for breaking the global rules. No one was in charge of enforcing their perception of board culture, which allowed the actual board culture to flourish. Threads that didn't fit the board culture died quickly, and threads that fit the board culture (like quests) were popular.
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>>54820295
>What they didn't account for, but in hindsight should have, was that the only reason QM's posted on /tg/ to begin with was that this is the board where all the roleplayers lurk, which made it the ideal board for roleplaying, and banning roleplaying on the roleplaying board didn't solve any problems except for the drama queens that couldn't bear to filter out the things they didn't want to see.

Fixed that for you.
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>>54820494
>and threads that fit the board culture (like quests) were popular.
No matter how much idiots like to parrot shit like, "/tg/ is /d/-lite!!1 xD", the "board culture" will never include ERP and smut threads, dumb anime FotM "stat me" threads, or the plethora of quests that were just some pathetic "Panty Futs Warrior XXII" garbage.

This board never was and will never BE a dumping ground for your dumb, tangential virgin bullshit. You have /pfg/ for that, and anyone who doesn't frequent it knows what a blight it is to the rest of the board.
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>>54820549
Buddy, you're never going to change anyone's mine with salty rebuttals that amount to basically "NUH UH", not is historical revisionism going to work when we have a fucking archive to prove you wrong.
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>>54820494
Please, shut the fuck up.

Before /tg/ was moderated, it was basically a shithole of spam, trolls, and off-topic discussion that was regulated only by people sagebombing threads into oblivion.

It wasn't good because of this, it was good despite this. Excessive moderation did drive away a lot of our content producers and generally damaged our board, but looking back at the past before any moderation and thinking "oh boy, let's bring that back" is just asking for /b/ and /pol/ to turn /tg/ into another shitting ground.

>and threads that fit the board culture (like quests) were popular.

Quests didn't fit the board culture, and in fact parasitically allowed small groups to continually bump what would develop into effectively private chatrooms (since they required reading through enormous backlogs in order to participate in them) on this board. It would be like permitting the various lazy but popular threads you find on /b/ on /tg/, and expecting fur/trap/loli/34 dumps to not choke the life out of this board.
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>>54820564
>or the plethora of quests that were just some pathetic "Panty Futs Warrior XXII" garbage.
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>>54817092
>The problem with discussing quests on /tg/ is that anime quests poisoned the well, so now the people who liked having quest threads on this board are constantly met with "hurr loli haremshit quest #6485248, so quality, much creative". We know that /tg/ produced a lot of fun quests prior to moot moving all the /a/ quests here, but having to qualify every statement with "not including the migrant quests from /a/" sandbags the discussion.
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>>54820644
>effectively private chatrooms (since they required reading through enormous backlogs in order to participate in them)
This, quests would have been alright if they were short, but you got behemoths which were 60+ threads long.
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>>54820549
I like how you're trying to spin it so that you're ignoring the major point.

You are bitching because you want to advertise quests here.
If you are looking for the very specific and minority group of roleplayers who participated in quests, congratulations, you now know where to find them, since they're centralized in /qst/. Now, the point still stands that the only reason QM's want to be back here is because they want the free advertisement.
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>>54820646
>see my previous refuted bullshit

Just give up and fuck off.
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/tg/ as a whole could use getting its fucking sense of humor back for one. I don't give a shit about quests but the board not getting butthurt about everything like some kind of diet Reddit would be a nice start.
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>>54820766
In the grim darkness of the post-Moot future there is only shitposting.
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>>54815621
I tried enjoying the things I like.

Now people point me to the dead abandoned wasteland that is /qst/ as if it's a lush, blooming field of flowers and creativity.

I kid, I kid. I try to make use of that advice every day.
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>>54819139
...Were you the Drawfag for /fvgt/ and Fading Embers?
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>>54815621
You have great points.
Thing is it's pretty good here. I'm in most of the 40k threads, so I get constant content. Also the occasional DnD green text thread for a chuckle.

40k general has had some bad attitude posters with the influx from our new edition. But it's not too bad.
Why?

Go on /v/ for an hour and you will realise how lovely this board actually is.
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>>54821979
>/40kg/
>not bad
We can't even get the fucking general titled correctly.
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>>54815621
Define "Quest"
By one faggots definition any thread revolving around roleplay is a quest, which would mean that apparently dragon /tg/ would go to quest but by another definition it's only a quest if it has a DM.
So tell me, what the fuck even is a quest anymore?
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>>54821332

No. I did most of the statlines for Fading Embers, though that's probably not what people know me for.
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>>54826234
Oh, cool, it's you. Here, message me on Discord:

SwivelDiscourse #9013
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>>54826261

In a mo. I'm off to get my ass kicked as the lgs and since I don't have a discord I'll have to set one up first, but when I get back I'll drop you a line.
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>>54818204
That's a good point. I'm going to stick to cowtits elves for now, partially because that was the suggestion and partially because I like large breasts. Anyway, the revised situation would be "some elves prefer human partners and vice versa", which is entirely reasonable but doesn't have really obvious implications. Woe to you if you're a human woman competing with an elf for the affection of a man who likes large breasts; woe to you if you're a human man competing with an elf for the affection of a woman who adores bishies. I still think both sides would search for the equivalent of cosmetic surgery, as a way of evening the odds. (In D&D, this would just be polymorph, but that would be boring.)

Are the elf tits functional? Do elven women produce more milk than human women do? If so, what does that imply about elven children?
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Filters are great. Recursive hiding is even better.

>>54816909
A lot of the new userbase on many boards, really. It's making people afraid to make anything for some reason.
I have a foolproof counterstrat, which is to give no fucks and write vore green anyway. At best, I get mild attention and complements/concrit, at worst, mods ban me for 3 days for derailing or spamming or whatever the fuck.

>>54821979
>you will realise how lovely this board actually is.
Just because the shallow end of a pool is deeper than a wading pool doesn't mean you should dive there.
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>>54828045
This post is what's wrong with /tg/ in a nutshell.
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>>54828199

How so?
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>>54828215
You either think being so stupid is funny, or you genuinely don't appreciate how stupid you are and how much effort you went through just to show off how stupid you are.
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>>54828199
Eh, I think the main problem is that the posters here frequently prefer to complain about things or engage in vitriolic, pointless arguments about them rather than do fun stuff, although the point about the disparagement of the people who make original content is a very good one. (It hasn't taken hold in /cyoag/ yet, which I think is part of the reason why /cyoag/ keeps cranking out CYOAs.) I'm not seriously invested in elf breasts, but I think trying to wring something interesting out of the premise "elves are titty monsters" is much more fun than, e.g., rehashing the argument over quests; in other words, I am somewhat in agreement with whoever proposed rescuing the thread with titty elves. Unfortunately, elf breast size doesn't actually seem to have any significant ramifications, which is somewhat interesting inasmuch as people get really worked up about it. (Yeah, you don't want anyone going on about massive elf tits at the table unless you're doing ERP, but this applies to sexual topics in general.)
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>>54815807
>quests were a good source of original content

That is some funny shit. Animu fanfiction is not good OC.
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>complaining about anime
>on 4chan
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>>54828859
>autism
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You know when festering shitholes alike /a/ and /v/ can't tolerate quests that they are utter shit.
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>>54828421
...Wait a minute, are you suggesting that /tg/ is full of very stupid people who are diligent and earnest in their stupidity? Because that actually sounds much better than most of the internet, which is full of very stupid people who are also lazy and disingenuous.

I'm not trying to be funny, just trying to take a deeply silly notion and see whether it goes anywhere interesting, which, alas, it doesn't seem to. Just doesn't have as much potential as vagina spiders or rape factories, I guess. I only feel justified in doing this because the main topic of discussion here is exceptionally dull and pointless. That said, if you're that attached to your kvetching, I'll leave you to it.
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>>54815621
There's problems with /tg/, sure, but your half-assed ideas aren't going to do anything.
Personally, I like the chaos, it's invigorating.

Also, fuck off nigger
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>>54828878
You Wanna see some REAL autism? You want to see what the wrong end of a Gellar Field failure looks like? You want to know what it feels like to have your ears cleaned by a robot? You want to know how to properly clean the kitchen sink drain? You want to taste the succulent flesh of the puppy? You want to peel back the eyelids of a hooker so you can lick her eyeballs while you rape her? You want to know how to properly Urethral Kitchen Knife? You want to know how to eat the ass of a goat? You want to know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tits? You want to STAB YOUR EYES AND SCREAM INTO THE HOLE AND LISTEN TO THE HOLE AND HEAR THE SWEET PEACE OF AGONY AND PLEASURE AND RIDE THE FUCK OUT OF A DOORKNOB ANAL BLOOD JAM YUMMY YUMMY JAM FUCK YOU DIE ALREADY DIE LIKE THE REST OF US DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
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>>54828911
>vagina spiders or rape factories
Tacky magical realm shit is the worst thing on /tg/
Just get laid, guys. It isn't that hard.
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Nazimod going final solution on any and all /pol/.
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>>54829022
At least (some) people seem to genuinely enjoy tacky fetish shit. That's preferable to the Eternal Argument threads which seem to be composed of nothing but bait and rage.

OTOH, I don't want to exaggerate the case, here. There's still a lot of good stuff on /tg/, and I still believe it's one of the better boards on 4chan.
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I will give quest threads this much, they at least are poor content as opposed to the non-content that is filename threads.
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>>54828911
>vagina spiders or rape factories
Haven't heard of the first, I assume it's got something to do with drow reproduction.
Second sounds like a Dwarf Fortress creation.
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>>54829616
The Vagina Spiders was a thread about a guy asking how many spiders could fit in a Drow's cunt so she could spew them out in a surprise attack.

The Rape Factory was just a faggot trying to be an edgy Sir Bearington.
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>>54829014
Take your meds bud.

Also 40k is for fags.
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>>54815621
Fix /tg/ by perma-banning op
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>>54815621
Not this shit again. I thought you gave up with your lowkey begging for quests to return. You remember those other threads? Well this one isn't going to be any better. Go back to keeping this meta shit to yourself.
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>>54831906
Second.
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Get rid of all the shitty quest threads
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>>54815733
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>>54815621
fuck off yer puffy faggot
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>>54815914
I think No Game No Life.
/tg/ wouldn't like it. It's Fun Allowed: The Anime.
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I hate that all the old epic writefags were chased away. There's no more real storytimes anymore, the ones that would last a month and be novel length.
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>reddit spacing
I sure do love redditors coming here with great ideas on how to improve this place, since their shithole is so great and all.
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>>54819968
The fact that the trolls were crowing for weeks about how they managed to get /qst/ made by complaining to the mods for 8 years running would have a lot to do with the claim that mods were trolled into making /qst/.
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>>54834890
There's no such thing as reddit spacing you piece of shit.
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>>54820644
>Before /tg/ was moderated, it was basically a shithole of spam, trolls, and off-topic discussion that was regulated only by people sagebombing threads into oblivion.
Well, that hasn't changed any. Guess removing quests and the /wst/ did nothing to change anything at all.
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/tg/ turned to shit when the millennials got old enough to start showing up.
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>>54828684
Not really.

But the people who made them were. That was part of why they couldn't be false-flagged into oblivion unlike most other things nu/tg/ hated and hates. You had to have a modicum of creativity to make and run a quest, so the trolls who hated them most couldn't pretend to make dozens of false quests because they lacked the creativity and motivation to make anything that looked like a real quest to perform a false flag operation.

They still use that technique, but the mod falls for it less often.
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>>54834839
Guess where they went.

There is STILL better world building on /qst/ now than anything /tg/ tries to make nowadays.
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>>54820644
And somehow /tg/ was STILL better back then than it is today. Just looking at it today does nothing but prove that mods were the worst thing to happen to this board.
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>>54834936
4chan turned to shit in general when trump posters appeared.

Shortly after that the whole site was flooded with BBC and cuck memes everywhere, responded by blatant nazism, antisemitism and antislamist hate threads and posts.

Basically, the rise of racism due to Trump winning the elections turned 4chan to shit.
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>>54834909
>would have a lot to do with the claim that mods were trolled into making /qst/.

How? Believing trolls when trolls claim ANYTHING is setting yourself up for eating a heap of lies.

There's still no proof of their claims, and THAT is a fact.
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>>54835329
As a /v/ poster, I can confirm it. We can't talk about Wolfenstein there anymore because it triggers genuine nazifags.
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>>54817311
>>54818204
>>54828045
>elven men are sexier than human men?
I usually imagine them based on David Bowie or Benedict Cumberbatch.
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>>54835570
Oh, there's plenty of proof. But there's no point in dredging up the dozens of threads that the proof is in when it won't matter. Usually all it does is get 'nice shoop' or 'that can't possibly be true'. And even if you actually believed the truth, you can't fix the problem that is killing /tg/. So there's even less point.

It's like the 'fact' that the front page was all quests, or 50% of the board was quests, or quests would actually make active threads be run off the board. there's no proof for any of those, but people spout them as fact anyways.
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>>54835966
Eventually some new mods will be brought in, and one of them will manage to convince the admins to let quest threads back on /tg/.
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>>54835966
>It's like the 'fact' that the front page was all quests

I remember this happening, in peak quest periods.

I don't know about trolls, but I was one of the people who bitched about quest threads for the entire duration of their existence. Rubyquest was great. Another Fucking Bullshit Quest thread XVIII was not. They were a pox.

/tg/ is better for them being gone, and if /qst/ can't survive on its own without a bunch of fags continually forcing their circlejerks to the top of unrelated boards to try and attract fresh eyeballs who aren't already sick of their crap, maaaaybe they're not the hot shit you like to think they are.
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>>54834839
I mean, part of it also comes from the fact that it's not easy to just drop off whatever you write as a writefag. Drawfags have a thread they take requests in, plus if something in a thread seems funny to them they can draw it and drop it in the thread. Or if they do a little comic they can make a thread for it.

With writefagging, there's not really a thread where you take requests. If you make your own thread for what you wrote, it has to be really good or else it gets no replies (or just gets one or two posts along the lines of "Nice fanfiction fag"). It's largely a thing of just not having as much chance to drop what you made, if that makes sense.
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>>54835966
>Oh, there's plenty of proof.

Except there isn't. There's nothing with the mods saying "we decided to make a containment board for quests because of trolls complaining." In fact, that idea is basically ludicrous and unfounded, because there's plenty of other threads that people complained about more that didn't get their own board.

All you have is conjecture and taking troll boasts as anything more than troll boasts.

Why /qst/? Because aside from alleviating some congestion, the threads demanded a different type of structure than the one /tg/ provided (in fact, one different than the one 4chan in general provided), and rather than increasing the bump and character limits, adding OP text formatting, and IDs for all threads on /tg/, they decided that it made more sense to make a separate board for quests. A board that still sees a fair amount of traffic compared to many other boards.

That's the official story, and there's really no reason to disbelieve it.

So, really, unless you have something that is ACTUALLY proof, shut up with your bullshit.
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>>54836102
No, you really fucking didn't remember that happening.
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>>54836058
That's never going to happen, no matter how much you bitch and moan.
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>>54836102
>>54836164
To continue this scientific sampling, I remember all quest threads except a 40kgeneral, mtggeneral or character art thread.
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>>54836102
>I remember this happening, in peak quest periods.
At no time ever did 16 different people run their quests at exactly the same time and get their threads bumped at exactly the same time.

That is what would HAVE to happen for you to actually experience that happening on /tg/.
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>>54835966
>front page
Are you one of those retrogrades that still don't use the fucking catalog?

Opinion invalidated.
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>>54836188
>it wasn't 16 people, it was only 13
Bullshit. If that had happened SOMEONE would have fucking screencapped it. Less epic things have been more often screencapped and shared than something that fantastically nonsensical.
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>>54836164
I'm not trying to convince you. You don't want to believe me, that's fine. I don't give a shit.

Your quests are still off this board, and that's what counts.
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>>54835329
> the rise of racism due to Trump winning the elections turned 4chan to shit.
This is what Tumblr actually believes.
For your own sake Anon I hope you're just pretending to be retarded
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>>54836192
>not reading properly.
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>>54836221
>using Mr. Rogers image in such a way
Yep, proven liar.
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>>54836190
It's 15, minus the sticky to 14.

And, regardless, for the majority of the front page of the board to be a series of threads that no one except a very small group could get into because they required reading through a backlog of dozens of previous threads, it really didn't make a whole ton of sense.

Basically, quests had become semi-private chatrooms, but ones that would be bumped for the sake of advertising them on one of the more popular boards of 4chan. Despite appearances, /tg/ is actually one of the top 10 most active boards on 4chan, making it an ideal location for all sorts of advertisements.

That's really the major reason why Questers want to be able to return to /tg/. To advertise their quests. The fact that they can run their quests on their own board is inconsequential to them, because even all the way back to RubyQuest it was all just a matter of getting the most people to pay attention to them. So, if Questers are really that concerned, they should take a page out of RubyQuests book and just buy advertisements.

Remember that the QM of RubyQuest bought advertisements to get people to come and participate in his quest. Other QMs have done likewise.

If your whole motivation is that you want more people to pay attention to quests, buy some ads. 4chan ads are actually rather cheap, all things considered, and it's definitely more practical than hoping and praying that the mods will overturn a decision and delete an entire board just to satisfy a few people who want to advertise their threads on a different board.
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>>54815621
the only solution is 8ch-like ability to secede and make own microboards with their own autistic sets of rules, able to compete for anon attention on a free chan market. the other way lies communism.
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>>54835329
>trump ruined 4chan post on tg

get on topic and contribute and it wont be shit
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>>54836327
16 because you would have to have bumped off a quest to ensure that everyone saw only quests on the front page.

It's still impossible given how few QMs could run at the same time and how little overlap their fanbases had. It still would have been screencapped by someone if that had happened, because it is highly unlikely that the 30-50 odd users wouldn't have noticed something that bizzare and improbable,.
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>>54836239
4chan has always had a small healthy dose of racism, but after trump this has gonne way out of hand and now you can't have a thread without some /pol/tard shitting all over it with their bait.
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>>54836452
Regardless, for the majority of the front page of the board to be a series of threads that no one except a very small group could get into because they required reading through a backlog of dozens of previous threads, it really didn't make a whole ton of sense.

Basically, quests had become semi-private chatrooms, but ones that would be bumped for the sake of advertising them on one of the more popular boards of 4chan. Despite appearances, /tg/ is actually one of the top 10 most active boards on 4chan, making it an ideal location for all sorts of advertisements.

That's really the major reason why Questers want to be able to return to /tg/. To advertise their quests. The fact that they can run their quests on their own board is inconsequential to them, because even all the way back to RubyQuest it was all just a matter of getting the most people to pay attention to them. So, if Questers are really that concerned, they should take a page out of RubyQuests book and just buy advertisements.

Remember that the QM of RubyQuest bought advertisements to get people to come and participate in his quest. Other QMs have done likewise.

If your whole motivation is that you want more people to pay attention to quests, buy some ads. 4chan ads are actually rather cheap, all things considered, and it's definitely more practical than hoping and praying that the mods will overturn a decision and delete an entire board just to satisfy a few people who want to advertise their threads on a different board.
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>Look, Mom, I posted it again!
KYS.
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>>54836469
>Implying Weaver bought ads

Just advertise with your coterie of sycophants. Weaver's furfag friends advertised on Fchan to build readership.
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>>54815621
Fuck blue boards. We're all adults here, or we should fucking be.
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>>54835329
>Basically, the rise of racism due to Trump winning the elections turned 4chan to shit.

>what is habbo hotel

Newfag tumblrite, or (You) farmer?
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>>54840111
>when people jokingly say nigger it's the same as goose stepping morons shouting gas the kikes race war now

normalizing radical right-wing behavior seems to be a common tactic from shitheads these days
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>>54840141

>They were joking when it doesn't support my argument, they are serious when it does

Okay bro lol
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>>54815621
>tldr
KYS
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>>54815807
What about the opposite. I used to go to /qst/ before I went to /tg/. It's easier to find what you are looking for like this, isn't that best for all?
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How to fix 4chan:

Let the mods and janitors delete and ban freely any bullshit they see.
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>>54840354
Also, ban or replace /pol/ words outside /pol/.
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>>54840375
I think people will find a way to manipulate/go past the algorithm until it will hinder genuine discussion.
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autism improves this board desu. All great /tg/ was born of severe autism.
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>>54840418
Nah, replacing niggatalk did effectively kill it.
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>>54840436
Did? It happened before?
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What we need is more Heroclix, That would improve /tg/ like 400%

that is sure the solution
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>>54820766
I actually agree anon. One of the things that drew me to /tg/ in the first place was some of the silly threads where people would play along with a stupid joke or follow some dumb scenario to its conclusion because they thought it would be funny. It was a bunch of anonymous people just goofing around and having fun.

Now it seems like people are so cynical and angry that they label things like that "cringe" or "Reddit" and dismiss it out of hand. It seems like /tg/ lost its sense of humor. You can't be stupid or silly anymore. When was the last time we had a thread like pic related where it was just a bunch of people screwing around and being silly? I miss it.
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>>54840324
>isn't that best for all?
Quest threads are only fun when they have more than one player.
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>>54841157
And good quests get that.
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>>54841206
Not when there are only two players on the board.
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>>54841348
Sometimes there are only shit quests.
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>People in /tg/ metathreads
>Questfags
>Antiquestfags
>People who want to remove everything that isn't D&D
>People who want /tg/ to be the melting pot of all boards and bring smut
>/pol/fags
>everythingidontlikeis/pol/-fags
Personally, while I didn't really like that quest where moved suddenly I haven't seen an increase or decrease in quality in /tg/.
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Currently there is even a popular quest on.
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>>54841382
Most times there are only two players on the board.
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>>54841433
I check everyday and there is almost always something on. Maybe it's a timezone thing.
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Isn't /qst/ lack of traffic more of a /qst/ problem than a /tg/ one? I mean /po/ or /gd/ lack of traffic doesnt concern us and I dont think /co/ would care if /mlp/ has less traffic than them.
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>>54841393
There hasn't been a major change in the quality of threads started, but prior to the whiny bitchfest that led to /qst/ being made, /tg/ was generally much more open to actually discussing things, and didn't have this toxic "I don't like this, it should be banned from /tg/" attitude.

That most likely isn't actually /qst/'s fault, between /pol/ leaking out from it's containment and just a general influx of newfags who heard about how horrible "the 4chans" are from tumblr or reddit so they brought their shittiest trolling with them.
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>>54841543
>Isn't /qst/ lack of traffic more of a /qst/ problem than a /tg/ one?
It is, but the splitting off hurt traffic for both.

When quests were on /tg/, /tg/ posters would participate in quests and questers would browse and participate in /tg/'s threads. When the two were split, /tg/ wasn't hurt that badly, only becoming somewhat slower for the loss, while quests lost their visibility and thus had to rely on people actively going there for quests instead of choosing to participate on a whim while browsing.

This was devastating to /qst/'s population, not at all helped by the shitty implementation of the board and Anonkun starting up not long after, providing better features and the promise of larger participant counts, splitting the population even more.

tl;dr Quests were more dependant on /tg/ than /tg/ was on them, and so /qst/ died just out of the womb.
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>OP specifically tells questfags to shut the fuck up
>Questfags instantly shit up and derail the thread with their noxious bawwing
I'll admit it: I originally thought the antiquestfags were overreacting and going too far, back when the whole thing originally went down. But now I see that questfags genuinely are cancer.
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>>54817891
Shut up fag
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>>54842735
>When quests were on /tg/ questers would browse and participate in /tg/'s threads
Thank god that's shit's over.
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I miss the old days. God I hate you Summer Autist's
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>>54815621

Go fuck yourself.
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I guess I agree with anon? That usually doesn't happen
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/pol killed /tg. Plain fact.
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>>54844406
>why are there so many people on /tg/ that want quests back here?
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>>54835947
That's hilarious, and I think it works pretty well.

Also, holy shit, a thread devoted to elf tits really would have been better than this.

>>54841147
This last semi-silly thread I remember enjoying was this one: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53188108/

>>54836453
The thing about /pol/tards is that they have one and only one thing to say, and we already know what it is.
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