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Mortarion disappoints me. I don't collect CSM, but I want all the primarchs to be cool releases. Magnus did a god job of impressing.
Mortarion is just fucking small and looks like a generic death guard character. He's only 1.5 x the size of a normal Death Guard marine, which I know are bigger than regular marines and almost primaris size, but not greatly impressive. Just seems this guy is about the size of a Lord of Contagion, just elevated off the ground.

The only thing remotely daemonic is the wings, which is something a normal Chaos Lord could take up until 6th edition. I do like the insectoid style it does work, however older art when he had the grim reaper theme going had with with angelic wings to give that stark contrast which was pretty cool.
I expected a tall, bloated monstrosity.
I know in the lore, not all daemon princes grow into huge hulking figures... but come on, this is a daemon primarch. We haven't had a little daemon prince model in 40k since Doomrider.
I'd happily let someone proxy a larger more imposing model / conversion. This is just a large guy in power armor, not even very mutated at all.The only thing that says he;s mortarion is his gas-mask and scythe.

I've used the DG model that seems to be placed most in line with him for scale. The Lord of contagion seems to be further behind Mortarion so isn't a good example for scale since he's smaller in the background.

>>54815575
You realise he is a way behind the comparison model in that pic right?

>>54815575
i can kinda understand your gripe about morty not being much mutated but its him.

Mortarions deal is that he doesnt like chaos all that much, he wasnt willing in all that heresy stuff but kinda just rolled with it and he probably denies most of the gifts, papa nurgle offers him.

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What started as a stupid idea ended up becoming a stupid conversion

CHAD THUNDERFIRE, PRIMARIS TECHMARINE

HE CAN BENCH A LANDRAIDER WITH EACH SERVO ARMS, AND HIS BACKPACK GETS MTV

>>54815614
What torso and legs did you use for it?

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>>54815575
he's already big enough to be an enormous pain in the ass to transport anywhere

>>54815614
>not chad thundercog

>>54815575
Mortarion's model is actually too hulking. He is supposed to be very skeletal, like he is wasting away. Which is what happened before he gave into Nurgle.

>>54815628
The Chaplain, with a Skitarii head, a backpack made from the radio antenna off a Dunecrawler and arms made from Kataphron Breacher claws and servo arms.

>>54815575
>morty gets disgustingly resilient
If he has any kind of IWND ability you can say goodbye to balance. What little 8e has anyways

>>54815614
Tiny head is tiny

>>54815575
Good. The game already has enough fuckhuge models. Smaller models puts more emphasis on using terrain thus making the game more interesting. Nobody wants a line if magnus sized primarchs lining up on one side if the board shooting at the stationary imperial knights lined up on the other side of the board. Guilliman is as big as a model should get. If anything I say mortarion is still too big.

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>>54815614
That actually looks fucking radical.
Reminds me of a Techno-Barbarian

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>>54815654
the huge fucking up 8th ed

Trying to build fluff for a homebrew chapter, when did Necrons first appear in the Imperium?

I wanted to have the chapter's home world be a fringe tomb world and because of that they're very experienced fighting the Necrons. But that doesn't work if they've existed since M35 and the Become haven't been active until M40.

>>54815575
He is almost as exactly described in Dark Imperium which is the last iteration of the fluff, like it or not. If it doesn't fit your headcanon you can suck it up. Also in >>54815634 you can see the actual proportions which fit pretty well.

Lads I really want to collect Orks but they're so old. Is there a way of building a decent sized army without relying too much on the not so great looking boyz?

>>54815641
>not chad thundercock

>>54815662
it's almost exactly the same size hood as reapermarine usually has, I was honestly surprised.

I actually quite like the look of a tiny cyberhead, it makes the armour look bulkier.

>>54815614
Where you get that big Cannon in the lower left?

Might make a good Conversion Beamer bit.

>>54815683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf8_tn7lBIc

>>54815683
Wen Techno-Barbarian Army Geedubs?

>>54815730
When Age of strife game!

>>54815575
Keep in mind that Magnus is the tallest of all the Primarchs so it'd make sense that he's smaller than Mortarion. Even in deamon form, he should be only like an inch or so taller that Girlyman

>>54815593
Nope, he's pretty much at the same depth on the photo. The lighting helps define this. Look at the one I picked out compared to the rest of the squad.

You can tell by lighting that the lord of contagion is quite far behind Mortarion. Our example model is just underneath on the ground instead of the elevated platform.

>>54815645
I was expecting more tall and stretched out. Gaunt, but large. A bit smaller than magnus, because he was always the biggest. More exposed flesh and robed after growing out of his power armor.

>>54815741

Plus Magnus can make himself fuckhuge at will anyway.

>>54815701
You can run an army of more or less anything you want using spearhead, vanguard and whatever the hell the fast attack detachment was called if you want to avoid taking lots of troops

>>54815741
>Magnus is the tallest of all the Primarchs
>it'd make sense that he's smaller

holy fuck Im a retard

>>54815711
It's the Breacher Claw from the Kataphron kit, which is an absolute bitz goldmine if you want insane John Blanche style conversion stuff.

Who would win in a fight between agrax earthshade and nuln oil?

>>54815808

Nuln oil but since my army wears silver armour and has silver tanks it's more or less a God Emperor send.

>>54815575
Compare him to his FW model, Guilliman is far smaller than I thought he would be IRL, I thought he was knight sized, but no just above a terminator

>>54815808
They don't call it miracle mud for nothing

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>>54815818

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9th edition predictions?

>Primaris marines fully cuck manlets who are phased out of the fluff
>Girlyman and his primaris are unironically the good guys leading the noble Imperium against chaos + NPC races.
>Primarch added as a compulsory option in the force organisation chart.
>Manlets off store shelves entirely replaced by primaris
>Rules further simplified , no cover, no morale, no bs/ws just 'to hit' , no saving throws as ap is confusing, no move stats
>points removed entirely, full switch to power
>Some people complain but eventually everybody bends over and resumes the position
>Hailed as the greatest edition ever
>ETA 1 year.

>>54815808
Seraphim Sepia

>>54815893
HERESY

>>54815873
Are you one of those cucks who complained that making XCOM actually playable was 'dumbing it down'

>>54815808
St. Duncan of thinned paints favourite paint out of all of them is Agrax so ill trust his decision

reddit . com / r / Grimdank/comments/5so3gl/i_am_duncan_rhodes_ask_me_anything/ddgj39c/

>>54815913
For The Seraphiserperor

>>54815873
They've been moving towards "take whatever the fuck units you want" for years now and you really think there's going to be compulsory LoWs?

Pull your head out of your ass. The game is the best it's been in three editions even if the lore is stupid.

>>54815920
I guess all the people who played original XCOM/TFTD and rightly considered it a great game don't exist?

nuXCom was casual shit, the old game was fine.

New codex when?

does someone have the path of the eldar omnibus pdf ?
or dark imperium ?

>>54815968
got you fambalam

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>>54815965
Soon

>>54815989
well ?

>>54815939
Girlyman , Magnus and now mortarion are basically already compulsory if your opponent is also running an equivalent model unless you like losing everygame . It's just the next step.

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>>54815549
Had a terrible realisation as to why my army was so slow, only had a few games in.

I was measuring my distance in centimetres, while my opponents and the game is intended for inches.

What sort of barbarian Brits/Burgers designed this shit and why hasn't it been updated to reflect common sense. Fucking fuming at this. If I'd known I might not have supported the hobby to begin with.

Pic related is my guys, if anyone wants them I'll put em up on the bay.

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>>54815989
seems like it wont let me attach it

>>54815995
posting pdfs doesnt always work for me for some reason

>>54816015
this has to be bait

>>54816033
It's a pasta

>>54815873
This meme is stale but here is a (you)

Are White Scars my best choice if I want to play Space Marines that employ Tau strategy and GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT ?

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>>54815549
What minis would you guys use for the minor xenos like tarellians?

>>54816087
> Every day I discover a new obscure alien race that has been in 40k since fucking forever.

>>54815575
Magnus looks terrible - like huge cheep toy - warped Ken without Barbie. Mortarion at least looks cool and I will collect DG becouse of him (and the fact that I have some from DI starter set).

>>54815873
I predict that in a year you still cant afford 40K and shitpost in the interwebz instead of finding a job.

>>54815808
Agrax is amazing.

You can literally spray an entire Deathguard army black. Drybrush castellan green and then wash in agrax and they're done.

>>54816111
To be fair there are a bunch that have barely had any mention since Xenology. Also there's a bunch from like RT or 2nd that GW doesn't care about anymore.

>>54816136
>Implying I don't shitpost at work
>Implying I'm not being paid to shit post right now
>Implying I don't already have 4 40k armies.

>>54816111
I met a guy who genuinely didn't know Dark Eldar were a thing

>>54816015
6/10 bait, needs some extra sauce to turn it into good pasta.

>>54816118
I'm tempted to start DG myself, the models look fantastic. I'll decide when the codex and the rest of the new DG are out.

When Chaos loses, the /tg/ tears will sustain me for weeks, maybe even months. I shall descend upon this board like a wolf upon a lamb, and bask in the unending impotent rage that this board will pump out. I will gaze upon the suicide threads and rage posts, and drink deep of their whining. When they actually start livestreaming their own suicides and self-mutilation, I'll know true ecstasy. I dont think my penis will ever be harder than it will be when a million chaostards cry out in itty bitty chaos boi penis fury simultaneously. They'll try to convince themselves it was a rigged campaign. They'll try to convince themselves that GW had pulled a fast one on them. We will riot! They will say. Boycott! Death to the false emperor! they will cry. Time will pass, and they will do nothing because they only talk. They are too cowardly and weak to do anything. But best of all, none of their bitching will balm the pain of knowing that their faction, their armies, will go down in history as an embarrassment, as an amusing footnote at best, as the loud obnoxious assholes who lost to the IMPERIUM. The entire 40k community KNOWS that the Imperium is filled with literal children, that it's practically on average underage, intimidated Xenosfags into silence, and its vicrtory will surely be mired in constant scandals and ethical breaches. But all this only drives home just how little the 40k community think of Chaos. After all their bullshit, their cheats, their lies, they STILL see the Imperium as being superior to Chaos. When the denizens of /tg/ come to this realization, they shall know true, soul-crushing, all-encompassing despair. Exquisite shall be their pain. I will look into their eyes and watch their spirit break, and won't reach my climax a moment sooner.
I need to fap.

>>54816087
Beastmen/Lizardmen

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>>54816111
I wish FW would get off their arse and do something cool, like make at least a miniature or two for some of those cool xenos.

>>54816187
Hello there Alpharus, long time no see.

>>54816187
Slaanesh is that you?

>>54816187
The Officio Culinae must've worked hard on this.

>>54816015
Looks like a cool chapter. Do those guys have any story behind them?

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>>54816111
I wish GW just did a kit of Minor Xenos, they don't even need rules just 1 off box

>>54815677
>Not playing a battle with 10 Warlord titans per side.
Get out plebian.

>>54815549
So some people have the new chaos marine dex, can i ask
>Do chosen get any changes?
>what are the cost of the new PM gear?
>Do warpsmiths have many options?

>>54815927
>Using plebbit
Fuck of newfag.

>>54816001
can't you assassinate the shit out of them with snipers ? i've got a few transuranic arquebuses with my skits

>>54816001
>already compulsory
Just play 1k games man so much more fun

>>54816292
>reddit has Duncan
>4chan got Carnac

:thinking:

>>54816015
Please stop posting this, it's gone so stale you could repackage it and sell it in TESCOS for £1

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>>54816016

Manlets barely one step above Imperial women confirmed.

>>54816001
Just bring a Warlord Titan to win the Dick-swinging contest.

>>54816313
we also have cheetah anon and raptors anon
I say we win

>>54816209
>waaah company do what I want that like 20 people will buy rather than keep on working on updating Horus heresy to 8th Ed

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Why the fuck does the Chadmarine Rhino have so many fucking guns anyway. It's meant to be a transport GW, not a Super Heavy.

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>>54816329
Get the cancer that is 8th edition fisher price wargaming away from a real game like Heresy.

>>54816313
He went on /AMA/ that's not reddit, it's its own thing, otherwise you would post ebin memes about peter Dinklage on Reddit

Are any of the HH books worth it in the like last 15-20 releases? I haven't read anything since like around Fear to Tread I think, I got out of 40k but I'm coming back.
Any of those Primarch books any good?
I know I know, >BL good
I enjoy the reads

>>54816329
>waaah company do what I want that like 20 people will buy rather than keep on working on updating Horus heresy to 8th Ed
Horus Heresy is staying 7e

Where can I find the point costs for muh marines? All I see in the codex are power values ._. ?

>>54816339
>thinking 7th ed was better when no one played it properly because they assumed it was 6th ed
>posting an image for ants
I bet you didn't even play the heresy before plastic kits came out

>>54816351
>they assumed it was 6th ed
Was there even a difference?

>>54816342
Primarch books are good
But Magnus is about pertuabo because graham mcneil is the GOAT, master of mankind is essential but not fun reading
Know no fear is good
Unrembered empire and Pharos are needed to ship DantiochXPollux

>>54816335
Because it's like 300pts

>>54816299
Magnus has 18 wounds so you don't need snipers to target him.

>>54816335
Gdubs needs to sell their shitty models somehow.

Pretty much everyone at my club has agreed they don't care if primaris models go into rhinos /Razorbacks/ landraiders etc.

>>54816346
>thinking it wont update eventually and they're just trying to balance it ATM because points were different between the two let alone power
>>54816349
In the back, check the table of contents next time

>>54816335
Its fucking mad that this is only 10 Power Points to field.

>>54816357
Exactly, this was the cause of so many misplays
>>54816377
Can terminators jump in razorbacks as well?

>>54816370
That's what makes it worse. I want a cheap transport to cart my Chadmarines in, not a fucking MBT.

>>54816292
>le reddit hate when subreddits and generals have been pretty close since forever
Who's the real newfag here?

>>54816384
Terminators have a fluffy reason to be kept out of Rhinos and Razors. The only reason Chads have to have their own transports is because GW wants to sell the Repulsive.

>>54815951
The old game was a bug ridden mess with a stupidly massive UI and a screen way too zoomed in. But most of that was just 90s game design. OpenXcom is the true way all the way!

>>54816362
Know where I can find the Primarch books? Don't seem to be in the megas up top that I can see.
Thanks for the recs though.

>>54816384
No obviously terminators and likewise terminator primaris equivalents like aggressors can't go into Razorbacks.

We pretty much treat primaris as true scale marines because the primaris lore and fluff is so shit.

>>54816318
have you seen greyfax and the sisters of silence?

imperial women are tall af

>>54816395
Unfortunately the sales tactic seems to be working.

>>54816402
I though Xenonauts was pretty fun

>>54816389
So is posting Loli stuff acceptable because we did it back in 2001, or in 1984 when we would doxx people

>>54816395
Personally, I'm fine with Chads not having access to Rhinos and Razorbacks for the same reason Terminators can't. But there's no reason they can't ride in Land Raiders and Storm Ravens, and there's no reason regular Marines can't get into the Chadmobile.

This all smells very much of GW not wanting people to mix Chads and Marinelets, possibly due to a future separation of the two to Codex: Space Marines and Codex: Chad Marines.

>>54816292
isn't he redditor influx particular to /pol/ and /b/?

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How could I paint my Death Guard to look more fucked up and realistic?

I was thinking Heresy colors worn down but I'm not sure

>>54816439
Death Guard done with a John Blanche colour palette would be very cool

>>54816395
And what exactly is the fluffy reason, unless you can give me a source on the weights of both terminator armour and mkX armour then you should sit down boy
>>54816405
Check the Megas of /hhg/, but personally I'd say check your local GW or gaming store to suppourt the local economy
>>54816406
But terminator lore is pretty shit as it's tactical dreadnought armour, but you are in dreadnoughts for life now, and the castraferrum was designed for places where the contemptor couldn't reach

>>54816439
Several washes of Declan mud

>>54816386
It would be a million times better if those rocket launchers were all fluffed as active protection systems that gave the machine a one-turn invuln save.

>>54816386
It's weird the tank does all at once. I would have thought the transports would be without a turret and the tank version have extra firepower with less or no transport space.

>>54816465
I don't think that dude was like... arguing with you man.

>>54816465
Terminators can't fit in Rhinobacks because they're too big. Primaris should be able to as they're just true-scale Marinelets.

>>54816471
I think they can give it a reduced chance to be hit instead of shooting as well, not entirely sure.

>>54816472
It's basically the Wave Serpent: Chad Edition. But with even more guns.

>>54816476
>almost a head taller than a dreadnought
>they're not big like terminators, just truscale

Want to make an individual brimstone from the Lord of Change kit riding something, either just for the sake of it or to use it as a familiar.
Should I have it riding the disc from the Tzaangor Shaman kit or one of the discs in the Tzaangor skyfire/enlightened kit (presumably the one with the mini-screamers)?
Or the third option, that being the balewind vortex from AoS

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What's his name again?

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>>54816374
perfect
Gracchus, get my murder-spider pet with the fuck-you canon

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>>54816335
Why'd you post the shop with less guns?

>>54816476
And how do marines compare in the fluff, I'm sure guy Haley has worked up some magic

>>54816494
Yea, but that's just the generic smoke launchers rule. I think an invuln save visualized through thousands of tiny rockets intercepting enemy fire before it can hit the transport is way cooler.

For actual weapons just have turret, hull, and pintel and maybe a coaxial mount, but please don't stick offensive weapons systems in stupid places like ON THE BACK OVER THE TROOP DOOR!

>>54816506
Cadaverous Counter

>>54816498
Cruch =/= fluff, Termies on the tabletop aren't truescale, that's why the Chads are bigger.

>>54816515
You make a new one every time you post it noob

>>54816506
Stop trying to push this.

>>54816506
Turgid Teller.

>>54816506
communications officers are cool, and hopefully they put out some for other factions as well

>artillery barrage/strafing run are one-use abilities
GW pls

>>54816524
Is the gun sticking out its arse the AA mounted one?

>>54816498
I thought they were taller in the fluff too

>>54816530
Naw man I saved that from the thread on the 27th

>>54816528
How are chads "truscale" when the fluff says they're bigger?

>>54816514
He does have a 4++ re-rolling 1s though, thankfully you can bring like 3 for the same cost as him. Just be wary of warptime bullshit letting him move 32".

Vanguard screens everywhere.

>>54815873
I only have one prediction
Primaris become new default marine. In lore, primaris seed makes it way to all Marine chapters. With one unified profile it doesn't matter if you use primaris or old marine models, and everything can take all options etc.
>mfw Manlet marines are equally powerful as primaris and are shorter and (likely) on smaller bases so better in every way

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>>54816395
>The only reason Chads have to have their own transports is because GW wants to sell the Repulsive.
This. If custodes can fit in a land raider, there's no reason primaris shouldn't be able to as well.

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>>54816506

GW Accountant

>>54816558
Yeah, marinelets are about 7-8 feet. Chads are about 7.5-8 feet. The main issue with termies isn't so much the height, it's how fat they are.

>>54816506
Ebola estimator

>>54816569
Are Neophytes supposed to be that big?

>>54816569
>>54816585
Cut up a genestealer and see how big it if it stood up straight, answer is very tall, and they're typically on mining moons with less gravity

>>54816561
Because the fluff is a stupid justification to release true scale marine models while also being able to phase out the old marinelet models and sell everyone the same shit twice.

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>>54816185

Better DG than Thousand Sons.

They have tons of unique models, are truescale and are getting more stuff in September

>>54816592
>forcing GW to lose its best selling product in calth and prospero

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Let's say I was a rich fucker and I bought a Titan specifically to make the Warlord-Sinister Pattern Battle Psi-Titan
What colour would it be? Would it be gold?

>>54815575

He is Guilliman Size which is ok

Why doesn't the Imperial Guard have an LMG special weapon?

>>54816619
Wouldn't the Hot-Shot Volley Gun basically be a las lmg?

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>>54816602

Manlet marines will live on in the Horus Heresy.

All 40k manlets are getting replaced. The primaris shit is just a gimmick so they can sell you new shit and marine fans dont completely sperg out, all while adapting the setting to a kid friendly environment and get away from grimdarkness.

>>54816619
I've always wish they had a Lasgun version of the Storm Bolter as a Special Weapon. They have the Volley Gun as a Hellgun LMG.

>>54816619
Heavy stubber is literally a modern era lmg.

>>54816619
basic guard have the heavy bolter (which granted in this setting is more of a GPMG) and scions have the hotshot volley gun

>>54816625
> Primaris with that paintjob
fucking noice
Does anyone have that one of Guilliman painted in the oldscool scheme and green base?

>>54816596
Oooh i like this

>>54816622
Yeah, sure. But regular guardsmen cant take it as a special weapon.
I mean, sure, they have the holy trinity, but they don't have any special weapons to really augment the volume of firepower at range, which is one of their main tactics.

>>54816339
>the way I play with my war dollies is superior to the way you play with your war dollies

>>54816381
What? Seriously? Doesn't it have like, 5 lascannons, 12 bolters and 6 stubbers?>>54816515

>>54816596
I always disliked the DG for being way too cartonish, but seeing them painted this way changed my mind.

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>>54816596
> tfw you will never be this good

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>>54816633

>>54816641
It's 16 power level. For comparison a Land Raider is 19.

>>54816625
Ye majority of people that bought calth did it to get more tacticals on the cheap, not for the heresy

>>54816625
>don't talk to me or my dad's son ever again

>>54816592
>people actually think this

GW has had no problems upscaling their space marines for decades now. Why the sudden change?

>>54816635
guard squads are more like a WWI or WWII machine gun section, 10 bodies to a gun
where as scions squads are more like a modern infantry section

>>54816651
He actually looks well proportioned when his legs are together

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Best Primarch when ?

>>54816086
>White Scars
A pit their leader cannot even buy a BIKE to lead his troops, right?

Black Templars, my man. Deep Strike 9.00001" from the enemy and re-roll charges

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>>54816681
You posted the wrong pic.

>>54816686
>A pit their leader cannot even buy a BIKE to lead his troops, right?
Yes he can.

>>54816681
KEK
He dead
Even if they clone him, not the same.

>>54816681
He's dead Dave
He's dead, Horus is dead
They're both dead
They're both dead Dave

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I just bought the new starter, anyone want to sell me on their favorite chapter before I paint?

>>54816706
He died but his soul is in the warp unlike Horus'

>>54816717

Imperial Fists

>>54816717
Iron Snakes
Read even the first short story in the novel and you'll understand

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>>54816681
>posting a dead twink

>>54816715
HA! they've got a new series coming... it'll probably be shit though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shs7VQhVvxA

>>54816515
I want it to get the thunderfire cannon legit.

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>>54816681
He is already there.

>>54816739
>since the end of the heresy, sanguinius has achieved just as much as the lion

>>54816729
Well, Ultramarines successors are good in the new edition.

>>54816160
Yes that is indeed implied and also true.

>>54816728
That's not a very good sell, anon

>>54816706
>>54816715
>>54816721
I kinda hope that, in this era of returning Primarchs, the Sanguinor can end up becoming a full reincarnation of Sanguinius.

What are some good options vs termy/meganobs when I'm playing as eldar?

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I'm curious about what GW could do for an Emperor's Children release. I mean besides Noise Marines and Fulgrim what other unique units could they have

>>54816805
Phoenix Terminators? Give them a new version.

>>54816805
you wanna use things besides noise marines?

That silence offends Slaneesh

Is there any reason to take Plaguebearers over Poxwalkers if your running DG with daemon allies?
Poxwalkers are significantly cheaper, get better buffs from characters and can replenish their numbers easier

>>54816794
Eldar...?
Blasters/disintegrator cannons for DE.

>>54816611
The legio sinister has its scheme described in a little bit of detail in inferno.

Off the top of my head they had a dark blue/sable color scheme, with that dope lion logo.

>>54816706
>>54816715

Well, since fluff dont matter any more, it is not out of the realm of possibilities.

Just do a "lulz! chaoz didz it"

>>54816818
Honestly, the whole noise aspect is my least favorite part of Slaanesh. I'd much rather focus on the whole martial perfection. Combat drugs are also good towards that end.

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>>54816717
Blood Angels.
They have a very nice lore, with them being noble warriors in this universe of grimdarkness, while constantly trying to resist the urge to fall into madness and become bloodthirsty monsters.
They have half a dozen special characters, unique units with gorgeous colour schemes (golden elite guards with angel wings, black berserk units, HQ dreadnoughts with psychic powers...)

Plus, their leader is actually spiritual liege tier.

Playing BAs mean you can play Marines, but with a nice close-combat focus.

>>54816794
Basically everything Eldar have access to?

>>54816805
That image is edgy enough for a scene kid to cut themselves on it.

>>54816596
It almost looks like he went over the whole thing with typhus corrosion, did a basecoat of screaming skull mixed with a tad bit of hurtling green, a serephim sepia wash focused around the mutation like the mouth, and multiple washes of nuln oil around the lower parts of the mini, But it can't be that simple, I know it.
Regardless I love his death guard

>>54816502
Anybody?

>>54816791
>sanguinor isn't s daemon of order
Wew lad

>>54816833
Where do you get this from? Slaanesh is not about perfection

>>54816819
They're reduced to 7ppm in the new codex, a group of 20+ confers -1 to hit and are situationally tougher than a marine

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*Fires 18 S5 AP-1 shots per turn*

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sanguinor is Sanguinius

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>>54816860
Perfectionism can be a form of excess.

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>>54816850
>The Sanguinor is a demon
Fite me, heretic.

>>54816805

I don't think they'll go for it, but I'd like a take on the emperor's children that focuses more on the "perfection and nightmarish but elegant asthetics" elements than the "drugged out wrecks with weird and goofy fleshy looking armour".

Also give noise marines actual instruments again, that's the good type of silly.

>>54816840
Isn't that the whole point of chaos marines?
Daemons are for fans of sleep paralysis and renegades are for fans of nazi war criminals.

>>54816881
>renegades are for fans of nazi war criminals.
*for Iron Warriors players who need those Imperial Guard tanks

>>54816860
Have you... literally read nothing about the Emperor's Children and so many other Slaanesh characters?

The pursuit of perfection is literally a form of excess and actually IS part of of Slaanesh's portfolio

>>54816872
Sanguinor and other Living Saints like Celestine are all Greater Daemons of the Emperor mate, you should realise this by now.

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>>54816884
Why even use guard tanks when there are 28mm gothic tigers the same size as russes?

>>54816901

>Greater daemons

God no, nowhere near the oomph.

More like daemon princes.

I fully expect them to have Sanguinor get a big powerup at some point then take his helmet off and reveal himself Sandwich Reborn.

Horse did kill Sandwich, but faith magic bullshit and unlike Horse, nobody destroyed his soul so he can come back.

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>>54816864
You are like a little baby, watch this.

>Fires 24 S5 AP-1 shots, 3 S4 AP-1, and 5D6 S4 AP0 shots per turn

>>54816915
Because they don't have Sponsons.

Which is literally the only bad thing.

>>54816894
Slaanesh is no more about perfectionism than it is about anything else, being shit at everything can be a form of excess as well

>>54816901
While this is technically true, they're still different compared to other creatures called "demons". They don't have the demon keyword in game, for example, while all Chaos demons and the avatars of Eldar gods do.

They're similar, but not exactly the same.

>>54816931

Eh, take the wallowing too far and you end up Nurgle.

>>54816917
Living Saints are like halfway between Daemon Prince and something like Abaddon, where the power is due to a connection. Like, you can't 'banish' a Living Saint the same way, but when they activated the pylons and cut off the warp, both Abaddon and the Living Saint lost their power and connection to the gods, and thus were just normal.

Legion of the Damned are the most clearly daemons of the Emperor thing though.

>>54816931
Yes, but warriors who worship Slaanesh due to the pursuit of perfection is a running theme in the fluff. Like, I'm not making it up. It's a thing.

>>54816406
Would anyone be opposed to someone running Primaris models as regular true scale marines? Even in a chaos army?

>>54816935
Honestly, Legion of the Damned SHOULD have the keyword. I wish they'd done it, like how they gave it to Lizardmen in AoS when they became literal Order daemons.

>>54816928
This is true, though I hear that tank is undergoing a redesign to include sponsons in the future. Hopefully not at the same eye gouging price as Victoria Miniatures matilda...

>>54816915
Because I don't play a regiment that suits the style and I already got tigers for my WW2 historicals.

>>54816954
I hope so. I've had nothing but good experiences with Mad Robot.

>>54816925
And yet everything is negated by how ugly this fucking thing is.
Why can't Chads use Rhinos like everyone does ?

>>54816986
I actually really like it. It's grown on me for some reason.

I'd like it more if it had no turret though, and then there was a turreted version that had sponsons too.

>>54816986
>Chads
>being like everyone else

That's not very Chad of you, Chad.

>>54816940
>Horse
>Lemon Rind
>Ferris Wheel
>Princess
>Spock
>Robot Porn
>Rowboat Girlyman
>Mango the Big
>Sandwich
>Lion-O
>Pert Buttocks
>Aw geeze Rick
>Bible Bill
>Jackie Chan
>Kondeleeza Rice
>Angry
>Birb
>Alfalfa
>Omega 3 Fish Oil

>>54815683
that is not a pic of a techno-barbarian, thats a 40k chrono-gladiator

>>54816961
I mostly posted it in response for the "nazi war criminal iron warriors." comment.

Speaking of historicals, some of them look damn tasty to jump into with good prices. But this is the 40k thread.

>>54817026
Battlegroup is nice. It's basically an edit of GW's Kampfgruppe Normandy, so the rules are easy to pick up if you have any experience with 40k or WHFB rules, but there's a lot of depth. You can find some of the books here:
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ

Why would you take the chapter master stratagem when you can just take a named chapter master?

>>54817068
Because special snowflake "muh dudes" fags exist

>>54816946
sure that's how it starts but remember the gods aren't about giving you what you want, they about using your weakness for their own ends.

>Sure I'll teach you next step on the path of awesome sword technique but it's not possible unless you wear a suit of freshly flayed children. Lucky for you the governor's little darlings are having a party tomorrow. Talk to Thunderclunge the Unsubtle about transport, I'm sure you and your esteemed gentlemen will be able to deal with the bodyguards, put those techniques I've taught you to good use

would a ravager with three disintegrator cannons be better or worse than a ravager with truebloods/blasters and a dis cannon

points and usefulness wise vs 2+ saves?

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>>54817018

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>>54817091
>>54817068

Because chapters like the Iron Hands get forgotten by GW.

>>54817095
Oh, of course. Hell, Shroud of Night has this too, with a bunch of post-Heresy Emperor's Children constantly discussing perfection and whatnot, and indeed that is seen as some truly massive praise because this warlord says that some Alpha Legion troops are close to the perfect warriors and it makes his own warband like aghast.

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>>54817091
>Not playing special snowflake muh dudes.
It's like you don't write novel length lore combining the results of each battle you fight in five game bundles.

>>54817068
Because you can't mix-max a named character's wargear. The local self-proclaimed fluffy Ultrafag always fielded a Chapter master on bike with shield eternal and everything, he doesn't even own Marneus Calgar

>>54817117
You're right, I don't have crippling autism.

>>54817099
raider with truebloods*

>>54816506
>what prices should we set the new products at
>just make something up!

>>54817123
Just a crippling lack of imagination.

>>54817091

Yeah but you can still like, reskin an existing chapter master as your OC.

The forge world ones make it even easier: Say you play Salamanders sucessors, but play a lot of terminators. You want a good assault terminator Chapter Master? Tyberos. Your chapter name is the Snowflakes of Hooth, your chapter tactic is Salamanders and your keyword is Carcharodons. Simple.

>>54817136
I don't normally correlate autism with imagination but alright, you're mentally disabled, I guess you should have the right to beliee what you want.

>>54817118

That's his twin brother, Fred Calgar.

>>54815701
Honestly, most of the older boys models hold up pretty well. Even Ghaz still looks good, he's just too small due to size creep. Theres only a few in the ork range I'd consider actually bad.

Are there any examples of marines where the chapter symbol is on the right shoulder?

I want to give my howling griffons captain the moulded pad that came with the deathwatch, but its reversed.

>>54816774
That should have little to do with your decision. Rule of cool for everything

>>54816835
#TeamEdward
Enjoy your space vampire fanfic

How susceptible is green stuff to liquids that help to get rid of paint on a model?
I primed my Celestine white and then had to notice that she looks like she got goosebumps all over her body (especially her thighs).
I'm one of the guys who stuffed her to make it look like her thighs are bare.
Judge me all you want, but I'd still like some answers maybe, please.

>>54816717
Pick some random Chapter from the hundreds that only appear once or twice in minor parts of the fluff and make them your own

>>54817099
>>54817125
If go with the ravanger just for the range, 9 s5 ap -3 d2 shots will mince heavy infantry and its hard to return fire when it's just poking out from behind a ruin 36" away.

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>>54817165
If he has the shoulder pad with rivets on it. Then you could use both and the orientation would be correct. Pic is how the rivet pads go.

>>54817210
I miss the vampire counts, please don't be rude or bullying.

>>54817211
> she got goosebumps all over her body (especially her thighs).
And, why would you want to remove goosebumps from a said creamy thighs?

>>54817165
Terminators, Templars, but in you case I'd wack a bunt of rivets (little greenstuff blobs) on the other shoulder, call it a relic from the HH or scouring

>>54817229
But they're so goody goody vampires. Why not give in and play Night Lords or at the very least if you want to stay an impfag do Flesh Tearers like me

>>54817233
Well...large goosebumps. Like, very small pebble sized.
Just looks bad up. And you don't even have to be too up close to notice.

>>54817247
eww, that sounds like an infection. GS is fine when dipped in biogreen or detol, cant speak for other things though.

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Why do they insist on shifting Khorne and his followers into only a pure 'maim kill burn' aspect? When I first got into Warhammer I liked the representation of duels, honor, and respect displayed by Khornate Warriors, like defeating only the strong and sparing the weak so their hatred and vengeance will foster them into worthy enemies some day, or defeating an enemy Warband and then challenge their leader in a 1v1 duel to the death, were if the warrior succeeds his opponents Warband lets him leave for the sake of being honor-bound, which would fit perfectly with the notion of Khorne not caring whose blood is spilt while promoting the warriors code he is SUPPOSED to represent. However, all of this has seemed to have faded away in exchange for a mindless slaughter of everything and everyone cause 'muh ultraviolence.'

Fucking disgraceful.

>>54816506
Bubonic beancounter

>>54817099
You can generally expect 7 wounds per 3 dark lances. Given the range and vehicle speed, you can hand those out at 52". That's also only 155pts. Although your alternative is a tiny bit cheaper, it trades that firepower for shorter range, less accurate shots (dark lances become assault weapons on vehicles), and an elite slot in an army with lots of good elites.

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>>54817211
filth

>>54816515
*fewer guns

>>54817260
A pox on aos, but the khorne rules still have some of this feel in them and are quite fluffy. I would hope some of it makes it over to a khorne codex. If you want to talk about martial perfection then khorne is the god, slaanesh can fuck off.

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>>54817260
Not disgraceful, you bought the sales pitch to the pyramid scheme and are mad about the bottom line. Muh honor. His favored champion kills indiscriminately. Every fag who thinks like you always references fantasy anyways.

>>54817211
>you will never give Celestine goosebumps
Was I born only to suffer

>>54817147
It was a joke anyway buddy those (you)'s are delicious though. I'd kill myself before writing a novel length lore batrep hahaha

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>>54817260
when was that then?

>>54816666
This way they also get to write a full series exploring the heresy of tampering with the Emperor's finest creation or otherwise entertaining the possibility that Fulgrim did nothing wrong.

>>54817302
>pretending
Ok autist

>>54817211
a good solution is to drink bleach.

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>>54817260
What's disgraceful is you not knowing the fluff. Since day one, 99% of Khornate fluff was about how Khorne cared not for honour. He is a beast of mindless and senseless violence.

His mortal followers can start and honourable men but Khorne is known to be the bane of the honourable. His influence will grind their virtue and twist it into madness.

>>54817211
Serious question, are you actually going to use that model in a real store against other people?

Fucking degenrate. Why are fetish fags always the worst.

>>54816506
"Excuse me, uhm, can I'd like to return this."
>"Something wrong with it?"
"Uhm, no. Not really. Uh, I just noticed that, like, all of the balls are tiny skulls uhm."
>" Oh yeah, that's the latest Fashion."
"Yes, uhm, there's nothing wrong with that, but I got little kids at home and you know. I might just want something a bit more subtle?"
>"Oh of course, golden skulls are quite extravagante, I got a daughter too and she's after everything shiny. Haha. So I'm just gonna replace it with a one with regular skulls then?"
"Yes that- what? No, uh, no skulls please."
>"Oh don't worry, those are plain baby skulls, nothing shiny. Don't worry sir."
"Can I just get one without skulls? Like...just some plain old beans?"
>"Oh, you're one of those queers, right right."

>>54817363
gr8 b8 m8

>>54817296
AoS isn't as bad as people think it is and I really hope some of the more fluff aspects transmit to 40k. Give it 10 years of fluff building and AoS will be great. Yes yes, 10 years, but WHFB had 30. Plus there is some cool shit in AoS.

>>54817363
Bitch I might even.

But not while her thighs look like that.

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>>54817296
Some examples?

>>54817298
Spoken as if it is a bad thing.
>Mindless Slaughter
>Warriors Code
It would be interesting to see a Khornate Champion lose favor for killing the weak instead of seeking out the strong, but fags like you will always be satisfied with the status quo.

>>54817382
post pics

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>>54817363
GW used to do better.

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How is this for a first list? I think it's nicely balanced. When I start playing higher point games, should I get Crisis Suits with 2x fusion or just get 2 Commanders? I'm also not sure what upgrades to take for my plasma rifle Crisis Suits; I don't know if I should add a Flamer to each of them or keep Advanced Targeting Systems. I think I heard something about 3x weapon Crisis Suits being the way to go in 8th.

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>>54817386
Meaningless artifice. Thats you.

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Visited GW in Harajuku in Tokyo. Was pleasantly surprised to see that the blackshirt was a fellow swede. I painted a primarine in my Scions of Calth scheme and left it at the store. It was a sloppy and rushed job with bad brushes and I didn't have the time for the chapter symbol. My guy on the left.

When I walked in a Tau player complained that Imperium factions were OP after he lost. :^)

>>54817318
Ok pudding ;)

>>54817379
Oh but it is, because AoS is literally "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit" : the setting.
If AoS lore is shit now, it will always be shit. Good fantasy and sci-fi novels don't need a decade of book releases, build up and development to be good, so why would that be different for AoS ? All you need is competent writers, but GW hardly has any competent people.

>>54817386
In AoS that is the case. I dunno why GW isn't putting it in 40k. In AoS, you have to kill increasingly worthy foes or you end up getting spawn'd. 40k? It just seems going Khorne is for buffs and buffs alone. But honour and stuff exists. But so does sneaky shit. There is a fluff piece of an honour duel, the challenger wins, only for one of his followers to impale him in the back and take control. I dunno why 40k doesn't have some bits and bobs thrown in.

>>54817428
Sure you weren't in Australia?

>>54817428
Sorry for the phonepost, on vacation.

>>54817431
Stop replying to me anytime, autismo boy.

>>54817418
Khorne just lost alot of his appeal

>>54817428
Never knew that Tokyo was so close to Australia

>>54817428
>Was pleasantly surprised to see that the blackshirt was a fellow swede
There are muslims in japan? I thought they hate immigrants.

How many attacks are Bloodletters base?

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>>54817386
>Khorne is the most powerful of the Chaos gods, a figure of titanic power who is worshipped by the mad and the violent across the world. Where Nurgle is jovial, Khorne is furious. Where Slaanesh beguiles, Khorne demands. Where Tzeentch schemes, Khorne slaughters. Khorne is known as the Blood God, for that is what he craves above all things, the shedding of blood, the reaping of skulls and the violent acts of war. He is the lord of murder and his bellows of rage echo throughout the eternities. He welcomes all who will worship him, just as long as they are willing to slaughter in his name.

>Khorne’s warrior code is simple: he demands that his worshippers fight, as much and as violently as possible. He has no time for magic and trickery and he cares little for the cunning gambits or ruses favoured by the desperate or cowardly. His disdain for such petty tactics does not stem from honour, however, for Khorne has none. He is simply rage made manifest.

>A true devotee of Khorne will stride fearless into the fray, praising his barbaric name with every axe stroke and sword thrust. The shield wall is Khorne’s church, the ringing of blades his hymns of devotion. Whenever battle grips the world, Khorne’s power swells within the Realm of Chaos, and so it is that he remains the greatest of the dark gods – for there ever have been, and ever will be, lunatics and murderers willing to offer him devotion.

>It is a curious thing that while Khorne blesses his servants openly, he is loath to intervene to save them. Supplicants of other, weaker deities might pray in vain for deliverance or mercy. Not so the devotees of Khorne, who know full well that the Blood God cares not for their lives. Blood must flow – he demands it. Whose blood feeds those endless rivers is of no consequence. He accepts all such libations offered in battle, no matter the source.

-Codex Apocrhya (of 40K Codex Daemonkin and End Times Archaon).

Khorne's code =/= honour.

>>54817363
When you're an empty soulless sex addict that's what happens.

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>>54817441
Good. How many khorne fans are illiterate. This misunderstanding can't happen if people read.

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>>54816335
>>54816515

>>54817457
The base of a model never has any attacks.

>>54817441
Nurgle is going to as well once you find out he actually isn't the grandfather figure folks think he is.

Slaanesh doesn't as much have the same issue. And most folks are aware that Tzeentch is a duplicitous cunt.

>>54817305
This is an actually really awesome description of Khorne

>>54817439
Ok just one more because Ima miss ya!

>>54817260
At some point in the fluff there was a period were killing the harmless and weak would piss him off immensely, which showed Khorne in the aspect of a War God instead of a "KILL EVERYTHINGAAEOQWBNW!!" God, which for some reason seemed like a bad idea to GW, you must have joined around that i assume?

>>54817486
Lol, the autist is sentimental. Get a load of this.

>>54816506
The Chaos Comptroller.

>>54817441
I'm fucking sick of Khorne, it's the only God that GW ever does anything with and it's annoying as shit. Thank fuck we finally have some Nurgle stuff happening

>>54817435
I was alive and playing WHFB from the start. We didn't get any fluff of any worth until 3rd. If you think that AoS is exactly that, you're retarded and beyond help; since the 'It's the Warp, ain't gotta explain shit' is 40k's motto then. WHFB fluff wasn't anything close to what you remember it until 4th. AoS has been out for, what, 18 months? 2 years? It was at least a decade before WHFB managed to get anything of note out. As for competent writers, I agree, but that's always been the problem. They've never existed beyond the odd bits and bobs. 40k has Aaron 'The Emperor was a dick lol' DB. Lots of stuff is either mediocre or poor. I personally like David Annadale. But my point is that AoS has barely any time to build anything and people have immediately decided to go 'it's shit' without giving it a chance because they joined WHFB in the early 2000's at best and think that it was ALWAYS that good.

I'll leave this now as it isn't the place, feel free not to reply.

tl;dr WHFB was devoid of fluff for years and it wasn't until 4th it got anything solid, which was then chopped and changed and stuck to Not!Germany for 90% of the stuff.

>>54817490
Can you find a single piece where this is actually the case, or is this just a meme?

Like, I sort of think I remember it too but no one ever seems to actually provide any evidence so maybe it's just a mass hallucination or wishful thinking.

>>54816805
Palatine Blades or some other fancy melee unit would be awesome.
Phoenix Guard are obvious but probably aren't chaos enough. Noise terminators or aggressor equivalent?
Lucius definitely needs a resculpt.

I'd cum immediately if they announced a sonic dreadnought.

>>54817507
I don't have source but I read some BL shit, where Kharn turned down killing some old man becasue he wasn't worth it. Everything else comes from fantasy.

>>54817298
>>54817305
>>54817362
What I do actually miss about Khornes fluff is that they also used to remember that he had heavy weapons teams, snipers, tank crews, all kinds of other killers under his banner; so long as they were all about the constant bloodshed they could follow him, whether it was with chainaxe, missile launcher or tank tread.

Nowadays fluffwise and especially rules wise its melee or nothing.

Do people actually like Ultramarines? They are smug and annoying, sure it is a nice color scheme but the more fluff you know you need more force to make you tolerate them.

>>54817507
Not him. There is ONE source and it was a single paragraph from 40K epic. It went against all the Khorne lore before and after it. Even the Khorne lore of its own edition. Instead of people ignoring it as a fuck up or aberration, they clung to it.

>>54817480
Actually, Nurfle confirmed to be a good guy. He doesn't hate us. He doesn't really want to harm us.

>Nurgle is the Great Lord of Decay and the Master of Plague and Pestilence. All things, no matter how solid and permanent they seem, are liable to eventual corruption, and Grandfather Nurgle sows the seeds of that entropy with carefully brewed infections and epidemics. Yet despite this grim work he is not a morose or dolorous god. Life begets death, and in turn death gives birth to new life, in the form of pallid, wriggling things that crawl free from mouldering corpses. Thus, the Plague God sees himself as a benevolent fellow, and goes about his business with laughter and honest joy. He sees mortal souls not as things to be dominated and destroyed, but naïve children to be plied with flesh-rotting gifts, and thus enlightened as to the true wonder of disease and decay.

>There was precious little malice in the workings of Nurgle. Cruelty, yes, as life was cruel. Rapaciousness, even. But the horror of Nurgle was one of cosmic consideration. Khorne cared not from whence the blood flowed, but Nurgle cared for every life, no matter how tiny. Nurgle noticed every life. Every soul that crossed the threshold of the Lord of All Things received a splinter of his attention, and suffered for it.

-8th ED Nurgle lore

>>54817510
>the tombstone has a boombox on each side

>>54817507
White Dwarf, hang on.

>>54817502
I never said 40k or WHFB lore was good.

Comparing something bad with something worse doesn't suddenly make it good. Like I said, GW has no competent people, though they do look enthusiastic.

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Predictions for morty? Though >>54815654 and a lot of other people are whining about him being OP, I imagine he won't be all that powerful.

My assumption is at the very least he'll get +1T and disgustingly resilient, which compared to gilly- on face value- seems stupid powerful. However when you look at other commonalities among chaos and add everything up, it's actually quite nice. For the math here, I'll use that humble standard of measurement, the bolter. So provided morty is the same amount of wounds as g (9), I think it's also fair to assume he'll be +T (7), but seeing as it's so rare for chaos especially, I'd also bet he has a 4++ instead of G's 3++.

So when applied to a Tac marine with boltgun, here's how it maths out (using W*Sv*2Wnd*2Hit)
>9 x 3 x 3 x 3/2 = 121.5

One-hundred and twenty one point five shots to kill. Which when compared to the beastin n' feasting Morty, requires
>9 x 3/2 x 2 x 3 x 3/2 = 121.5 (!)

Hey, exactly the same number! Not bad at all. What's more, judging by Magnus (and the fact mort is a passive aggressive little bitch), he won't have the special reroll hit/wound thing G has, so the hugely OP thing their is gone too. While there will likely be wounds (which loses hiding) and some special "mortal wounds roll without (x) distance", its all okay since he'll basically be a bitch-babby version of a knight. Even with debuff auras, psychic powers, coolass weapon, T7, resilient, and whatever else he gets, it won't be anything terrible. The only really good buff could be a -1 to hit outside of 12" (which DG got a version of in past editions), but it's not like that's been all that gamebreaking, G with mr. Tigger already has it.

So yeah, not bad at all, precious balance saved for another day. Or maybe not, I could be totes wrong and GW decides 'fuck it, 300pts cause shit needs to sell'

also I find it funny assuming 2 shooting attacks and 1 on the charge, it takes the 40 Tac marines to kill G/theoretical mort. Is this a sign?

>>54817515
Kharn knew the old man. That's one of the reasons why he didn't kill him. He was a worker on one of the World Eater ships during the HH.

Kharn has no problems with murdering the thousands of IG that pose no threat to him.

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>>54817524
How are you stopped from fielding havocs? Hell its still fluff relevant. Its not melee or nothing. Khorne cares about melee, that's the argument. Your guys can kill however they like.

>54817524
>Nowadays fluffwise and especially rules wise its melee or nothing.

Dude, Khornate daemons field cannons.

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Is this guy any good?

>>54817528
>They clung to it
Because it was a good addition.
Still searching for it, so far:

>http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=16988.25;wap2

>>54817553
Kharn is a faggot simply for having the moniker "the Betrayer"

Any character he may have is immediately negated by the fact that it always ends in "LMAO I STABB U IN BACK 4 CORNFLAKES XDXDDD BLUD DOG"

>>54817524
you can have any of the standard Chaos units have the Mark of Khorne in the current iteration. It's only Bezerkers that are specifically melee, also Giant Khonate deathbots

>>54817471
Holy shit, that was one of the very first 40k pictures I ever saw, back in White Dwarf in the (I think) late 80s, early 90s. What a rush of nostalgia.

>>54817528
It's an illusion though. That's not really a 'good guy,' it's just a facade. Like, it's basically an abusive parent at best, and how folks romanticize that in order to deal with it.

>>54817553
Kharn has no compunction to kill his own legion. I thought it was out of character when I read about him sparing the old man but, I barely remember it now.

>>54817574
Its gibbon's best pic by far IMO

>>54817560
Plus, a lot of the Khorne war machines have guns too. Rapid-fire guns are very Khorne-y

>>54817480
>>54817570
>When the positive aspects of the Chaos Gods are just traps that people fall for because Chaos as a whole is super evil!!

Can you see the problem yet?

>>54817560
>>54817573
Sure, you can, it just used to also talk about things like sniper death cults and khorne renegade guard regiments with decent discipline stuff in the fluff; just wish they'd get a little love. I think the idea of a group of snipers obsessively counting headshots or a tank hunting havoc crew comparing kills make for interesting takes on the Khornate ideal.

>>54817608
>khorne sniper death cults
I would like to know more

>>54817590
>Its gibbon's best pic by far IMO
I started up three smallish armies from scratch about a month ago; if I had seen that picture again when I was I'm sure one would have ended up as World Eaters.

>>54816590
issue is that the neophyte models (at least the ones that stand up straight) are the same size as guard and skitarii

>>54817606
That's why Undivided are cool. Iron Warriors are badass cus they use Chaos as a tool to forge their own empires and shit. They observe them similarly to how the Greeks observed their pantheon. They exist and have power, but I'll only call on them when I desire power for my own needs, and only in ways that benefit me.

>>54815575
Fuck off you autist

>>54817268
i was thinking dis cannons which, while more expensive get more shots and better chances of taking out a 10 man multiwound squad of meganobz, I think. Which hopefully equates to centurions and termys getting melted

>>54817626
I wish I could remember exactly where it was, but I've been out of the game since 3rd ed, so it would have been then or earlier. I can't even rule out that I'm remembering wrong.

>>54817260
Khorne has always been about just blood. Some of his followers might take their fighting to a more honorabru levels, but Khorne just wants that sweet, sweet murder blood.

Am i blind or is most of the inquisition stuff sold out?

>>54815575
>Magnus is also called the red giant
>surprised that other Daemon Primarchs would be smaller than him

Are you retarded

Mkiii or mkvii for my salamanders?