/40kg/

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Alpha legion

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first for word bears

>>54812231
I think you're intended to use the oval bases provided.

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Necrons report in

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>>54812251
>>54812254
GOD DAMMIT ALPHARIUS

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Best Primarch coming through.

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Is this an actual thing?

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Quick: Tell us about YOUR DUDES. What are they? What is their lore? Are they fun?

>>54812262
IM HERE AND READY TO SUCK COCK

>>54812274
What the fuck is that picture

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How could I use this guy in 40K? Terminator Lord? Daemon Prince? Kharn?

>>54812277
That looks pretty old, anon.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are Chaos warbands of nothing but Helbrutes, but there were never any Dreadnought legions or Dreadnought chapters.

>>54812280
Hydra harmonics, they're a company of noise marines in the Alpha Legion.

Why does the Imperium still use infantry in offensive operations? Everything a tactical marine can do a Predator/Storm Talon can do better.

>>54812293
A picture for ants

>>54812235
So, I have a question; I'm building a squad of Rangers, but I don't want to have to put 3 of the buggers on oval bases just so they have Arquebuses. Is it WAAC to put Arquebuses on 28mm base?

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>>54812277
>>54812298

> Old Dreads are best Dreads

>>54812294
An'ggrath would be the closest equivalent.

Guard and Ministorum reporting in. Going to tear shit up Saturday with death cult assassins and bullgryn.

For a Genestealer Cult list, would it be better to have 3 units of 20 Neophyte Hybrids or 6 units of 10? Im leaning towards the latter so I can get two batallions or a brigade for more CP.

>>54812277
I used to play against iron hands box squads all the time so clearly

New codex when?

>>54812311
>Why does the USA still use infantry in offensive operations? Everything a marine can do an M1/F22 can do better

>>54812280
They're a Penal Legion. So they're probably a lot of fun. They got recruited with the incentive that battle is better than working at a penal colony.

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>>54812280
Contingency detachment Jericho. Alpha Legion marines led by a heresy era delegatus.

>>54812379
So conscript spam?

How do you stop a Nurgle infestation?

Since the plagues are supernatural and probably defy all the usual treatment/quarantine methods I imagine the only real method is to burn out every bit of it.

>>54812330
>Back in the day Dreadnoughts had actual legs
OKAY, WHICH ONE OF YOU TOASTER-FUCKING COGBOYS DECIDED IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE MOST MODERN DREADNOUGHTS LOOK LIKE THEY SKIPPED LEG DAY?

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>>54812330
>Mon-keighs like the worse stuff better
>They call it nostalgia

>>54812394
nuke from orbit lol
nuke everything

>>54812362
OcTauber will soon be upon us.

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>>54811411
>>54811421
>>54811423
>>54811435
Just got out of class, but thanks for the advice.
I was thinking about Orks and Guard, but they both kinda feel off to me for specific reasons.
The Guard share the same sense of uniformity that the Tau had to me, although I'll admit that the fact that I can dirty them up and add a bit of personal flair makes me like them a bit more than the Tau.
As for the Orks, the ramshackle design of a lot of their things sorta makes me shy away from them, I love observing them and what have you, but I'm not super sure I'll enjoy paint 3*10^4 Boyz.
If there was a proper ruleset for Dark Mechanicus I'd jump on that in a heartbeat, they're by far and away one of my favourite aspects of the 40k lore.

>>54812311
guard are cheap, marines are not

>>54812280
<The Burned Ones>, a group of tzeentchian horrors led by a couple ex-TSons daemon princes who failed at their first assignment post-ascension, they're now cursed to be followed around by a host of Tzeentchian flamers who alternate between #roasting the DP/horrors for their failure and bbqing enemies. Horrors and DPs are black(dark grey) with blue/pink accents currently

>>54812280
The Iskander Rogue Trader Dynasty (Inquisition+ Scions/IG). They were locked in a brutal succession war caused by their darwinian views until recently when the youngest son managed to seize the warrant by killing or forcing his siblings to submit. He started with nothing but his faithful manservant and a pair of balls the size of the Phalanx. Now he's leading a fleet intent on glory, conquest and profit.

He's a pretty fun guy. Still havent converted him yet though.

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>>54812276
Second best, he's tied with Vulkan and Pre-Heresy Magnus.

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>>54812394
Salamanders

>>54812402
Probably the same dumbasses who unironically think boxnauts look good.

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Looking at World Eaters to work with my R&H, how good of a synergy is there? Planning on supplementing the berzerkers with mutant rabble and Earthshaker Batteries.

>>54812392
Not all of them. They're a "veteran" Penal Legion, so they've """acquired""" a certain amount of gear that puts them on par with normal Guard. Including some vehicles that were commandeered from their parent regiments.

So long as nobody sees that they slapped a fresh coat of paint (badly), it'll be fine.

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I have no eyes and I must scream

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>>54812280
Sigma operator branch.
Its mix of Alpha legion loyalists and renegades but no chaos scums
And guy who looks exactly same as Ahriman lead them in battle

>>54812294
Use him as himself when he gets rules.

>>54812464
Space Mariner in Termblenador Armor

>>54812464
>new warhammer 40k space marine professionally painted

>>54812378
The Imperium doesn't have to worry about civilians.

>>54812464
use moderation when reveling in blood

>>54812464

> How many layers of paint are you on
> I dunno like five or six my dude

Apothecary or Ancient for a Primaris list?

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>>54812311
>Here we go again.

Because Tanks, Flyers and Artillery can't hold ground.

>>54812276
No question.

>>54812484

> L@@K

>>54812475
When he gets rules he's going to be a titanic flying bloodthirster you dumbass.

>>54812280
Thousand Sons led by (insert name for exalted sorcerer here) in the post-heresy Ahriman color scheme, haven't quite decided a name yet for anything but lots of avian themes with the leaders and stuff so I'll base it on that. Haven't quite decided a fluff direction yet either, but once I get things like the name down I might be able to think of something.

>>54812420
Yes marines are still used in offensive operations (why is that?) while guard have tanks and gunships of their own.

>>54812311
Can't bomb an Ork airfield if they don't have airfields.

>>54812402
Old Dread looks like he skipped everything but leg day.

>>54812464
motherfucker mastered the art of photo-ing minis but can't for the life of him thin his fucking paints

>>54812280
Pilgrims of Monarchia, led by a former Ashen Circle member who rose to become a Dark Apostle, they are an infantry-heavy warband with a penchant for fire and destruction of religious buildings that goes beyond even normal Word Bearers.

>>54812500
>>54812378
OFFENSIVE OPERATIONS you retards.

>>54812557
Are you 12 years old

>>54812520
because marines and guard can make decisions, or rather they can be trusted (most of the time) while tanks and such cannot. sure you could give tanks and gunships AI but we all know how that went last time

>>54812464
The posing looks awesome. The "50 Layers of Paint" not so much.

>>54812531
Then shoot the Orks with a Predator.

>>54812311
>Why does the Imperium still use infantry in offensive operations? Everything a tactical marine can do a Predator/Storm Talon can do better.
Can a storm talon go through the door of a bunker, shoot the guys inside and collect the vital objective (intelligence, artifact, whatever)?

>>54812515
And? If you use that model he'll look unique.

>>54812571
>tank pilots are not marines or guardsmen
Anon are you drunk?h

>>54812589
He'll be too big for that model and it doesn't have wings.

>>54812568
No, now answer.

>>54812581
It can blow it up.

>>54812557
>"Sir, our tanks have successfully driven a hole in their lines."
>"Good job, Lieutenant, but what is the downside?"
>"Well, the enemy quickly closed the breach and disabled all our tanks because we had no infantry to control the ground they just took."

Looking at ogryns and bullgryns. Are bullgryns as good in melee as they look on paper? I think it'd be fun to charge a squad in and a distraction/beatstick.

>>54812280
A guard regiment with close ties to the ecclesiarchy and Inquisition that often recruits from a penal colony and a nearby religious warrior feral world. On the table I use Conscripts to be penal legions, normal squads to be normal recruits, Crusaders and death cult assassins to be the male and female religious warriors and various other things. Just quick background lore as an excuse to take a smattering of units.

>>54812591
are you because that's not something i said

>>54812606
>It can blow it up.
And lose said vital artefact.

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>>54812280

The Oppressors Warband

>Renegade Marines active in the Ultima Segmentum near Tau and Imperial Space.
>Roughly 5000 Astartes with about 4 million mortal followers (of which 3M are nothing more than cultist rabble)
>Utilize and worship Chaos in all forms, but inherently view it as a tool to further own goals
>Allied with the Black Legion in an arrangement of "Come when we call and never fight us and you get free reign of X territory" - have sent Companies to fight in the 13th Black Crusade.
>Warband utilizes combined-arms tactics of conventional "mortal" Renegade Humans fighting the deadhead fights with Astartes detachments getting all the fun/glorious work and acting as leadership/"motivators" for the mortals

Beliefs:
>Desire to loot, plunder, and build an empire of their own by any means necessary
>Hate the Inquisition and the Imperial Fists above all other foes; Inquisitor and the Fists wiped their original home world off the map a few thousands years ago and they still mad
>Fight for territory and resources first, and ideology second, except when Fists are present.
>View mortal slavery to Astartes masters as the natural order, but simultaneously view slaves as resources that require a degree of investment to achieve maximum yields
>Number of slaves owned is a rough reflection of your standing in the Warband, with lords owning thousands outright
>Hierarchy is extremely rigid but also very respected - Oppressors have a degree of true brotherhood among themselves, but everyone else is literal dogshit to them.
>Chains, Power Mauls, and Hammers are of great symbolic import - virtually every Champion uses a maul, and each is usually hand-crafted for the Champion by their Heretek artificers.

They're fun and I like them.

>>54812606
You're fucking retarded holy shit. Go educate yourself on the basics of modern military doctrine and strategy before asking these idiotic questions.

>>54812611
>"Sir, our tanks have successfully driven a hole in their lines."
>"Good job, Lieutenant, but what is the downside?"
>"None sir, because we kept some tanks back to hold the ground we took since we are not retarded."

>>54812618
Bullgryns outdo Ogryns at everything bar shooting. And you don't want Ogryns shooting.

>>54812644
Tanks can't hold ground in congested territory.

>>54812644
Keeping tanks back would result in the same thing that happened in the Winter War. Russian tanks pushed through, left their infantry behind and got disabled by Finnish light infantry.

>>54812631
What vital artefact? Are you implying even 1% of the enemy fortifications and trenches you will find have some sort of vital relic or information, specially against Tyranids and Orks?

>>54812644
Neck yourself retard. Armor needs infantry for screening and murdering the other guys infantry. Who the fuck do you think is going to kick the door and blast the shitbag with a middle launcher hunkered down in a hive city?

>>54812673
The artefact from the example. Learn to fucking read.

>>54812673
Where the fuck are you driving tanks vs Tyranids when the entire planet is covered in murdervines and bramblefuck jungles and acid swamps?

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> Some anon posts a mega link for the first 34 Horus Heresy novel audiobooks in 40kg the other night
> Am now downloading 30GB of audiobooks
> Too lazy to switch IPs so it's gonna take like 12 hours but who cares

Thank you to whoever that was, I've been looking for Warhammer related stuff to play while painting instead of just generic podcasts.

>>54812384
Tell us more about them!

>>54812638
>runs out of arguments
>y-you're retarded!
Clockwork my friend, thank you for conceding defeat. Your tears are also delicious.

>>54812657
Why? Yes they can, and much better than infantry since they dont drop with a single bullet.

>>54812670
Because they were retarded and didn't keep some tanks back?

>>54812436
I absolutely love this idea and might have to steal it

>>54812705
link? cant mention that shit and not share

Hey /40kg/, I'm wanting to get into WH40K but have one question. Are there any restrictions when it comes to building an army?

>>54812720
>he thinks tanks can hold congested territory
Good luck with that, lol

>>54812720
Alright look, I'm going to go nice and slowly. The tanks they had (all of them, including the ones they kept back) got surrounded and disabled by the Finnish infantry because they didn't have Russian infantry to keep the Finns off them.

>>54812710
I'm still working on the lore. Right now the idea is that the original delegatus died, and his persona/self has just been psychically imprinted onto successive marines.

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>>54812729

https://mega.nz/#F!GEc1QLRR!BcxtPrEdfvI-778sQnTzjg

Here you go anon

>>54812747
Some
You have to take units from a single faction, but those factions can be pretty broad.

For example, you can take Imperial Guard and Space Marines in an army together, because they're both part of the "Imperium" faction
But you can't take Orks and Imperial Guard in the same army.

Also generally speaking you need at least one HQ leader model, and 2-3 units minimum.

>>54812747
You need to have certain types of soldiers (HQ, Elites, Troops, Fast Attack, Flyers, Heavy Support and Lords of War) and keep to a certain points limit. The basics is covered in the rule book.

-HQ-
>Captain, Burning Blade, SS
>Chaplain
-Elite-
>Company Vet Squad(5), SS(2), P Sword(3), P Axe(2), Plasma Pistol
>Razorback, Twin AC, S Bolter
>Company Vet Squad(5), SS(2), P Sword(3), P Axe(2), Plasma Pistol
>Razorback, Twin AC, S Bolter
>Contemptor Dread, Dread CCW, Kheres AC
-Troop-
>Scout Squad(5), Sniper Rifle(4), Camo Cloaks
>Scout Squad(5), Sniper Rifle(4), Camo Cloaks
-Heavy Support-
>Dev Squad(5), 2 ML/2 LC
>Razorback, Twin LC, S Bolter
>Dev Squad(5), 2 ML/2 LC
>Razorback, Twin LC, S Bolter

I have 4 points left over. Should I give each Dev squad a Storm bolter, remove two Storm Bolters from the Razorbacks and give each Scout Squad a 5th Sniper Rifle, or remove two Storm Bolters and give my Chaplain a Plasma Pistol? Help would be appreciated.

>>54812760
I need to think up orders for them that don't get too far into doughnut steel territory

>>54812747
Everything has to have at least one matching fsction keyword. Faction keywords tend to start broad Imperium - Adeptus Astarte's - Dark Angels - Deathwing for example. As long as everything in your army has one of those keywords matching you're good when building

>>54812280
Wasp Nids.

Nuff said.

>>54812683
>Armor needs infantry for screening and murdering the other guys infantry
Not when your tanks have sponsons that spit literal fucking fire. Or cover-ignoring plasma.

>Who the fuck do you think is going to kick the door and blast the shitbag with a middle launcher hunkered down in a hive city?
You don't need to, just literally blow him the fuck out with a demolisher cannon or have a storm talon/vulture turn him into cheese.

>>54812687
The point is that in the vast majority of the cases there is no artifact retard.

>>54812697
Most 40k can drive over vines and spawps, even chimeras are amphibious. And literally just burn the jungles.

>>54812783
Okay my little spergling.

do we have CSM codex epub or pdf yet?

do we have GK codex epub or pdf yet?

>>54812770
>>54812772
>>54812778
Okay, thanks for the help!

>>54812783
>infantry hides in building, waits for tanks to pass by
>blows up tanks as they pass by with AT weapons

Could have avoided this if you had an infantry screen sweeping structures.

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how's this look?

gotta do a bit more work on the base, but the model itself is basically done.

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>>54812761
>https://mega.nz/#F!GEc1QLRR!BcxtPrEdfvI-778sQnTzjg

Now if only I could get Eisenhorn's 2nd and 3rd Audio Books... I have Xenos. Want the link? It's fucking reddit, but you need the post to unlock the zips etc.

>>54812749
>runs out of arguments
>"he thinks X lol!"
Thank you for conceding defeat.

>>54812751
They didn't keep any back though? Or maybe they didin't have enough?

Explain what that infantry could have done to protect them that more tanks couldn't. You can't at all, or can you?

>>54812618
Bullgryn are really good now. Give them a maul and slabshield and they will stomp the yard. Either run 6 on foot or 4 in a Chimera or Valkyrie. A priest helps a lot too.

>>54812725
I will say so far the army has been a converters dream. My acolytes will probably suck since they arent equipped with all plasma but they're still cool. I'll have to post pics of them when they're finished.

>>54812846
Holy fuck. Infantry are the bane of tanks. One dude with an AT weapon can flank a tank easily, particularly when they're just sitting there. Infantry screen for infantry.

This is basic combined arms 101.

>>54812846
>Explain what that infantry could have done to protect them that more tanks couldn't.

They can patrol terrain tanks can't even get near and don't require nearly as much effort to maintain.

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We're they the only friends they had?

>>54812838
Looks cool. A bit too black for my tastes, but I like the cloak.

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>>54812898
I mean, this is drazhar's normal 'canon' colourscheme.

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when are these fuckers getting nerfed

>>54812846

Ablative armor.

Anti-tank munitions are usually shaped charges. They hit something, and their round is designed to channel that explosion into the tank's armor. Set it off by putting a human body in the way, and the round detonated before it can make contact with the armor, exploding off it harmlessly.

>>54812783
Sponsons aren't as flexible as a person holding a gun. They have blind spots and cannot turn and react as quickly. They can't angle to shoot into nooks and crannies where infantry can hide that have obstacles the prevent the tank from turning around.

What happens when a tread breaks from all the corrosive diamond-shard-coated death brambles you're driving over? Someone needs to go fix it. Who's covering that guy? Another tank? So you have them packed really closely together, now they block each others field of fire so you can't bring all your guns to bear. Genestealers pop out of a tunnel on one flank where you have only a single tank with clear FoF, clamber up on top before the driver can maneuver into position to aim the sponsons. Now you have genestealers hopping from the top of your tank to the top of the next tank, moving down the column, ripping the hatches off and murdering your crews unrestricted. Or a spore bombardment takes out the tank in the front, and the rest of them can't get around the wreck. You have no nimble infantry to push past through the time that confines and rush the biocides position. Now you lose tank after tank after tank for free. Your aircraft can't get in there because poor visibility from the acid fog and spores in the atmosphere makes it too dangerous not knowing where the anti air spores are floating.

>>54812797
Which part of my post are you replying to? Either way, not an argument, and keep projecting since I'm not the one who bitched out of the discussion by throwing insults.

>>54812834
>infantry hides in building, waits for tanks to pass by
>gets burned to death by non-retarded tank commander who had his banewolf spray everything with promethium pre-entively or literally just ran some auspexes(sensors) and servo-skulls(drones) to detect the hidden infantry and flame their shits
You were saying?

>>54812846
Had the Russian infantry been with their tanks, they would have been able to keep the Finns away from the tanks, meaning that Suomi wouldn't have been able to shove his molotov down the tank's exhaust pipe or shoot it with a Panzerfaust from the trees where the tanks couldn't go.

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>>54812280
Night Lords 17th Company AKA 'The Heathen Thralls'

>one of the many scattered Night Lord companies
>Were en route to the Night Lords reunion to stomp Ulthwe when they were waylaid by an overeager rogue trader and his fleet
>All looks lost for the Night Lords until a Word Bearers fleet happens upon them and assists their brethren
>With their ship in ruins, the Night Lords must unfortunately ask their savior, a particularly jolly Dark Apostle, for assistance
>they receive it under one condition - service
>The 17th company never makes it to the Night Lords conclave and instead have been fighting alongside the 40th Grand Host as ambush and terror troops for about a decade now
>The captain of the Night Lords has been desperately trying to prevent his men from falling to the taint of chaos, having to put several out of their misery.

On the tabletop I run them as an auxiliary force of raptors and a Hellforged Contemptor in drop pod attached to a cultist spam word bearers list. Have played Night Lords for a long while now, but after seeing the rules for WB, I thought this might be fun.

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alright /40kg/ it's time to fess up, what rules have you been getting wrong lately?

>quicksilver does not let you fight first even if charged, it's used for continued combats
>characters can be shot if they're in range and the squad they're hiding by is out of line of sight
>smite targets the nearest unit

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Extremely new, how does my 1000 point list of Catchans look?

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I have 15 points left and donk know what to get.
So much casters cause we gettin' 9 powers in codex

>>54812927
>burns everything with promethium
>Runs out of promethium by the 10th building

If your backup plan is to set the entire hive on fire, then you need a new plan..

>>54812949
Mortal wounds spilling over, forgot about that in a small round recently against a friend. The match would have been over much quicker had I remembered.

>>54812917
I meant the black looks a bit......I dunno......flat-ish. Silver highlights like the canon scheme has would fix that though.

>>54812918
9th Edition, going by FW's usual standards.

>>54812892
Didn't Kurze get along with Lorgar on some level until he saw the Gal Vorbrak?

>>54812927
>preemptively spraying every single building you come across
You're going to run out of ammo real fucking quick
>auspex and servo-skulls
Auspex scans can be blocked and only have an effective range of 50 meters, servo-skulls aren't omniscient and can't do much to stop anyone they find, assuming they even find them in time.

>>54812949
Still not sure if I'm cheating. I've asked the manager and others and they say it's okay but I don't know. I have Straken order fix bayonets on himself to fight in the shooting phase while he's already in close combat. I do it with other officers on themselves too.

>>54812972
I tried drybrushing with Dark Reaper and Thunderhawk blue, guess I didn't lay it on thick enough.

>>54812949
>Smite
Closest visible unit

>>54812927
Bitched out? Wow, you must be a tough guy. Bet you have a razor sharp wit too.

>>54812990
It's legal, at least afaik

>>54812949
Characters need a complete bubble wrap like tanks do now days.

>>54812892
No, Curze had Fulgrim as a friend of sorts and Mortarion had Horus as his closest friend.

How do I decide on my chapters color scheme? I did a sample guy as bronze, but I have a feeling that all the guys are just gonna blend into each other on the table.

>>54812927
They wait on the top floor out of range of your flame weapons. By the time you're close enough to flame them, youre way within range of their krak missiles and already dead. Now the rest of your tanks are stuck and have to back up and find another street to go through because there's a flaming wrecked hull of a tank in their way. Inside one of these buildings (you don't know which) there's an auspex jamming system that needs to be found and destroyed - sure would be handy to have some infantry that can kick the doors down and climb the stairs to sweep each floor, wouldn't it? And no you can't just blast all the buildings to rubble, because your objective is to RECLAIM this manufactorum block from the insurgents intact, or the AdMech will have your balls in a vice grip and stop shipping you ammo and fixing/maintaining your tanks.

>>54812949
>hellions don't have deep strike

I was baffled when I checked their sheet again and saw they didn't have a deep strike rule.

>>54812330
>> Old Dreads are best Dreads
i have a few of these .. and the chaos ones from same timeframe in my CSM army .. fuck hellbrute model .. it looks like shit and i've hated the 2nd edition dreads.. fucking walking boxes.

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>>54812949
>CSM cant take 20 man squad of nearly anybody expect termies
Everyone wondered why i have 20man termies charging them

>>54813027
Don't even need a jammer, although those are easy to put together. Ceramite of any appreciable thickness can block most auspex.

>>54812280
The Hydian 309th. The Hunters of the Hydian are a loyal regiment, true sons of the God-Emperor. Starting off as workers in a manufactorum, they created the weapons and machines of war that their fellow Hydians used to fight their wars with. When a splinter of a tyranid hivefleet encroached into the system, shortly after a regiment raising, all available bodies were pressed into service to fight the xenos. After the threat had been driven off, the survivors were given a chance to take their fight to the stars. Their uniform, if it could be called one, is merely their green industrial coveralls with mass produced body armor covering their vitals. They have since gone on to win glory against all manner of enemies around the galaxy, most recently in battles in the Konor system.

I bought and made a sizable guard army a couple years ago, right before the 6th ed codex came out and basically didn't touch them again until Konor happened, so I'm using it as motivation to actually paint them.

>>54812918
question for anyone knowledgable

You can take these in a minimum of 3 per unit including the exarch. This means you could get a total of 24 S6 AP-3 shots per unit when getting soulburst off of another min unit of shadow spectres or say skyreaver jump troops.
It only costs 4 points more for an extra attack and extra wound, would it be effective to field a ton of these 3 man units with one 10 man for conceal/fortune targeting? If you bunch up units you can get alot of them with -2 to reflexes and rerolls to hit

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no matter what happens. no matter what books come out..

in the end..

this is how the 40k universe ends...

am i right to believe that the new chaos codex is released tomorrow in UK? Saturday.

>>54812873
1) If a tank is just sitting there you are using it wrong. The whole point of armored warfare is mobility.

2) Not he can't in thr 41st millenium where they have tanks with turrents AND sponsons that spit fucking fire.

>>54812879
>They can patrol terrain tanks can't even get near and don't require nearly as much effort to maintain.
So can a Stormtalon/Vulture/Sentinel/Land Speeder. And resources are not a problem for the Imperium.

>>54812922
Lascannons and melta weapons do not use shaped charges. Furthermore, proper recognissance can allow you to find out where the infantry is before it shoots at you, and at that point you have a repertoire of artillery, missiles, aircraft and tanks that can easily blow them up and their cover before they even see you.

>>54812925
>Sponsons aren't as flexible as a person holding a gun. They have blind spots and cannot turn and react as quickly. They can't angle to shoot into nooks and crannies where infantry can hide that have obstacles the prevent the tank from turning around.
Pintle mounts and more tanks man.

>long ass paragraph that would actually make a better story than most BL publications
Can be avoided entirely by not moving your tanks into narrow corridors where genestealers can ambush you?

By bombing any such areas into fine dust if they cannot be bypassed?

>>54813084
Yes, 12th

>>54812976
He thought he was pitiable, but not much else.

So, thinking I may paint my liuetenants as Veteran Sergeants and my Captaind as Liuetenants to get past the fluff pain of running two Captains.

>>54813096
You are never going to accept you're an idiot so honestly I'm done trying.

>>54813023
do more test models of different chapters

>>54812990
well starken is a guard infantry unit and he can be ordered around. i guess it's like how characters are affected by their own auras

>>54813036
i feel the same way about my daemons since it's something we also had army wide. also strangely daemon chariots aren't vehicles any more

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New DEldar player from last thread with an altered list

Battalion Detachment
1906/2000

HQ
Succubus - 72
>Splinter Pistor, Archite Glave

Succubus - 72
>Splinter Pistor, Archite Glave


Troops
Kabalite Warriors -67
>4x Kabalite Warrior - Splinter Rifle
>Sybarite - Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Kabalite Warriors -67
>4x Kabalite Warrior - Splinter Rifle
>Sybarite - Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Kabalite Warriors -67
>4x Kabalite Warrior - Splinter Rifle
>Sybarite - Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher


Fast Attack
Scourges - 164
4x Scourges - Dark Lance, Darklight Grenade
Solarite - Blast pistol, Power Lance, Darklight Grenade

Scourges - 164
4x Scourges - Dark Lance, Darklight Grenade
Solarite - Blast pistol, Power Lance, Darklight Grenade

Scourges - 164
4x Scourges - Dark Lance, Darklight Grenade
Solarite - Blast pistol, Power Lance, Darklight Grenade


Heavy Support
Ravager - 155
>3x Dark Lances, Bladevanes

Ravager - 155
>3x Dark Lances, Bladevanes

Ravager - 155
>3x Dark Lances, Bladevanes


Dedicated Transport
Venom - 95
>2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes

Venom - 95
>2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes

Venom - 95
>2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes

Venom - 95
>2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes


Flyer
Voidraven - 194
>2x Void Lance, Voidraven Missiles

Voidraven - 194
>2x Void Lance, Voidraven Missiles

Thoughts?

>>54813096
You really need to research how tank warfare works mate, you're clearly not listening to our arguments.

>>54813096
If bombing and shelling the area into dust is an option, why are tanks even there to begin with?

When someone says "Infantry with mobile AT weaponry could hide and destroy a tank", you can't just say "Well proper recon will tell me where they are". Who's performing the recon? The tanks?

>>54812949
I keep forgetting the -1 for moving with heavy weapons on vehicles.

>>54813130
I'd run some melee options, but that's just me.

>>54812927

You do realize that cost a lot of ammo and time, right?

You do realize you can only pack too many tanks on a street, right?

You do realize in urban environment multi-stories building exists, and that you can't just aim all your gun that high, resulting in you have to destroy ALL such buildings, to ensure safety, right?

Please, please tell me this is a bait.

Also, can somebody explain to me why the Barracuda get LBBC for self defense, but not the Tiger Shark. Yeah, that could get cheesy, but I don't understand giving your slower, clumsier bombers less range for self defense a good idea.

>>54813104
Just upgrade a Captain to a Chapter Master.

>>54813096
>You breath the same air as people that spell and pronounce it "turrent"
Christ
>Pintle mounts, flame sponsons, etc
This shit does not get around the fact that tanks aren't just big heavy armored infantry. They have more limitations
>Just bomb narrow areas
Why even have a tank if you could just exterminatus every planet? Clearly sometimes you want to defend things without just blowing them up

>>54813096
>resources are not a problem for the Imperium
You don't have access to the entire material might of the Imperium in a single warzone, the Departmento Munitorum notoriously barely sends enough resources to any given warzone. This is assuming those resources even make it to the warzone.

The only resource never in short supply are bodies.

Also why the fuck would the Imperium use Stormtalons and Vultures for recon, aircraft are only good for recon when it comes to finding vehicles and other large obvious targets. Infantry hide from aircraft all the time.

Has anyone seen some dope AoS Khorners converted into Berzerkers?

>>54813145
I'm considering dropping the Kabalites for Wyches, which might solve that problem a bit

>>54812865
Good shit. I have a team (3-6 I think, will need to did them out of storage) with the grenade launcher gauntlets and slab shields. Should do nicely as a beatstick one of theses days.

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On a scale between tabled turn 2 and hard fought loss how does this list look?


>Mechanized Cadians, 2000 Points, 5 CP
>Vanguard Detachment
Pask, Punisher +Lascannon, 2 Multi-meltas, Storm Bolter
Tank Commander, Punisher +Lascannon, 2 Multi-meltas, Storm Bolter
Tech-Priest Enginseer +Servo-arm
Platoon Commander
Veterans +3 Meltaguns
Chimera +Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter
Platoon Commander
Veterans +3 Meltaguns
Chimera +Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter
Wyvern

>Vanguard Detachment
Tank Commander, Punisher +Lascannon, 2 Multi-meltas, Storm Bolter
Master of Ordnance
Platoon Commander
Veterans +3 Meltaguns
Chimera +Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter
Platoon Commander
Veterans +3 Meltaguns
Chimera +Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter
Manticore
Wyvern

>>54813096
By this logic the Imperium might as well just cut out the middle man and Exterminatus every single planet a conflict arises on to save time.

>>54813096
Can you answer me this question?
>"Why doesn't the Imperium just use Titans for everything instead of tanks?"

>>54813096
>He thinks mobility is the same thing as agility
>He think going quickly on paved roads will save him from the mag-locked mines.

>>54813096
>lascannons and meltaguns are not shaped charges

True. But you know what are? Tread-fethers.

>>54812800
>>54812819
If we did it would be in the Mega

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You know what this global campaign reminds me of? That old Delta Force movie with Chuck Norris. You know how the good guys overwhelmingly outnumbered and outgunned the terrorists? Then they'd play patriotic badass music while the 2 dozen of the best equipped elite forces of the US mowed down 4 or 5 poorly equipped retards who didn't have a prayer of fighting back. And the great tragedy of the movie was that the Delta Force lost a single guy?

That's what this campaign is. Chuck Norris using his elite martial arts training to beat up a badly wounded fat middle aged guy running for his life and then blowing him up with his rocket motorcycle while the Delta Force theme song plays.

>>54813201
nah man it's cool just send more tanks into the mess it'll fix everything.

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What is the best flavor of guard and why is it space rambos

>>54812838
Looks pretty badass.

>>54813190
Why even use Titans?
Just have spaceships bombing everything into glass, you don't need anything besides a navy.

>>54813238
You spelled Death Korps of Krieg wrong.

>>54812938
You can do that by having more tanks and bombing/torching possible hiding places (or just the right ones if you ran good recon).

>>54812960
You must have missed the part about using auspexes and servo skulls to scan the area and only have to torch the buildings where infantry is hidden? And fire is just an example, you can use demolisher cannons and gunships too for the same effect.

>>54812986
>Auspex scans can be blocked and only have an effective range of 50 meters,
Source?

>servo-skulls aren't omniscient and can't do much to stop anyone they find, assuming they even find them in time.
The skulls only need to find the enemy, and they carry their own auspexes. Then you shoot the freshly found foes with your Vindicator/LR demolisher or just torch them to ash.

>>54813008
>even more butthurt non-arguments
Delicious.

>>54813027
>They wait on the top floor out of range of your flame weapons.
And die to gunships.

>you cant bomb the manufactorums you have to reclaim them
You can, actually. If the Imperium wasn't shy on rebuilding all of Vraks, then I don't think there are many things they couldn't just blow up and rebuild later.

But keep posting those mini-scenarios, they are unironically cool.

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>>54813227
>wasting precious tanks and relics from a forgotten age
>not wasting men which are grown and exported by the dozens

look, i can just give you some servitors and vat grown men within a month but a leman russ that's been running 1000 years? that's priceless

Question about consolidation, let say my X squad wipe out an Y squad and then I consolidate to within an 1' of Z squad and engage them in combat. Does Z squad get to attack now since I engage them in combat ?
Same question for pile-in as well.

>>54813238
I swear to got Catachans better get some kind of bonus to close combat. Strength 4 or a bonus attack or something

>>54813215
What the fuck is a tread feather?

>>54812618
The only thing I dislike about Bullgryns is that they can't take a Power Maul and Grenadier Gauntlet. I want Bullgryn Grenadier-Terminators GW.

>>54813248
And for that Navy why even use anything other than Gloriana-class Battleships?

>>54813272
Yes, you pile in, and the squad you are now engaged with gets to attack. It's the price you pay, but you avoid getting shot with overwatch and you lock them in, so it's normally a pretty good call (assuming you survive their attacks and can punch them yourself in the next turn).

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>>54813179
Its empty chimeras? Easy target

>>54813265
>he still thinks that an auspex, a short ranged scanner that detects heat, movement, and radiation, can penetrate rockcrete walls

>>54813265
>source
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Scanner
>The standard range of a scanner is fifty metres, although walls more than fifty metres thick as well as certain shielding materials are able to block them

>shoot them with a demolisher
So what do you do if they're out of range or it's a building you cannot afford to destroy?

Or if they're inside a sprawling manufactorum, full of hallways and tunnels your tanks can't get anywhere near?

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>>54813292
Thanks buddy.

>>54813309
>50 metres thick
pretty sure you meant cm buddy. Otherwise, correct.

>>54813265
Except all your gunships are dead as you flew them all into AA.

>>54813265
> If the Imperium wasn't shy on rebuilding all of Vraks
They never rebuilt Vraks.
It's a bombed out ruin that's been quarantined, the Imperium's attempt to save the armory and munitions factories there was a complete failure, and the loss of those helped to further weaken the Cadian gate for Abaddon's crusade.
I don't know what kind of setting you think this is where the Imperium has the ability to magically rebuild everything with anything resembling speed, or can just afford to lay waste to everything of value, but I don't think it's the same one 40k exists in.

>>54813272
>>54813292
Wait, i can pile in to units i didnt charged and attack them?

>>54813322
No prob, I actually had to come and ask the exact same question for my first fight. The rules were just vague enough that I wasn't 100% sure.

>>54812235
>Hilarious™ Mortarion Reveal, also some terminators and stuff
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJMu9G7Pyw8

Not sure if its better than Hero Bases or not. Damn.

Anybody know of decent female torso/leg bits, preferably GW-made? Considering Witch Aelves but they're pricey.

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Honest question. What use does this little guy have in 8th Edition. I love Assault Guns and really want to use a Thunderer but it costs 210 points to the LR Demolisher's 180 and comes with less weapons and only 1 more wound. Am I just better off with a Demolisher?

>>54813340
No, you can't attack them since you did not declare charge on them, you just lock them in combat.

>>54813265
>I'll use demolisher cannons to outrange AT troops
Nigger what are you doing

>>54813340
You can't attack more than once in the fight phase (unless you're Khorne Beserkers or something)

You can consolidate and pile into combat with units you didn't charge, though..

Do we have any info on what Codexes are releasing next, or when that announcement might be?

>>54813340
Not of that unit already attacked that round. If you killed the enemy unit with another unit or something, any units that haven't attacked can do so, I think. But if, for example, a unit of Nobz killed a guard unit and then piled in on another guard unit, they would not get to attack again. The new unit they engaged with would get to attack, and then combat would continue normally in later rounds.

>>54813364
Death Guard next.

>>54812957
You have tons of S3 and S4 weapons on the infantry with the jump up to the Lascannons (which have one shot) with not much inbetween. If you replace some lascannons with heavy bolters (3 S5 shots) you'll have better tools against the ever-popular T4 Marines. Other than that, I love seeing massed infantry with the IG.

>>54813354
Nothing actually says you can only attack the unit you charged, you're just required to be within 1" of them.

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>>54813364
OcTauber.

>>54813386
The choose targets part of the combat rules does.

>>54813357
Flamers have even shorter range and he's suggesting them too.

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>>54813386
Not correct

>>54813265
"Alright lads, we've just been given the order to take that holy city by the end of the month. The Archenemy has taken the last year to dig in, ship in reinforcements, set up killzones, and anti-air missile silos. In an attempt to minimize the damage to such a holy site, Imperial High Command, at the behest of the local Ecclessiarchy representatives, has restricted the use of flamers, plasma guns, and anything larger than a man operated heavy stubber. So that means no tanks, no air support, and very limited reconnaissance. Good luck commander."
>But Lord Commander, I can't wage war in any way other than a full frontal assault spearheaded by a baneblade company!

"Oh, then if you're refusing to obey an order, given to us by the local living embodiment of the God-Emperor, you can go ahead and take it up with you're regimental commissar."

>>54813023

Good basing can help with that.

>>54813104

You've been outed, Jeremy Filner

>>54813391
GW brand coffee tables.

>>54813397
>>54813404
Missed that somehow

>>54813361
>>54813379
> You can't attack more than once in the fight phase
I mean- pile in after charge but before 1st activation in melee
>>54813404
What if i declared charge at 2 units, come to 1 of them at charge move and at pile in come to 2nd?

>>54813391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WQOGVLLGw

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>>54813096
>If a tank is just sitting there you are using it wrong. The whole point of armored warfare is mobility.

General anon, holding territory by just driving his tanks round in circles

Tactical genius

>>54813275
Tanith for a shoulder mounted anti-tank rocket launcher. Named as such because it feths up a tanks treads.

>>54813423
That's fine, as the second target will have gotten to overwatch you.

>>54813431
> driving round in circles
PRIMO VICTORIA

>>54813423
Then you can fight the second unit.

>>54813423
The second unit still gets to fire overwatch. but otherwise that would be fine. You still targeted the second unit for your charge.

>>54813276
That'd be the shit. I think that if I every made a chaos marine army, I'd used a squad of them to represent a reeeeelly messed up attempt at making terminators.

>all these fucking (You)s
Geez guys one at a time

>>54813117
If that whas your goal then you missed the whole point of the argument.

>>54813134
I'm LISTENING, but they don't make SENSE to me, for the reason which I replied with. Tell me why they are wrong, and then I'll voice any doubts I have about your explanation until either I have no doubts left and thank you for enlightening a humble autist or you run out of arguments, get mad and sperg at me like two anons have done already. Either way I'll be happy, but obviously I prefer the first outcome.

>>54813135
>If bombing and shelling the area into dust is an option, why are tanks even there to begin with?
Good point. They shouldn't, if it's not an option for the imperium I imagine it's because of void shields or some shit (if you know any other please tell) at which point then yes, perhaps you are right in that specific situation. But how often is even that? Wouldn't that relegate infantry purely to urban combat?

>Who's performing the recon? The tanks?
Servo skulls with auspexes on them.

>>54813147
>You do realize that cost a lot of ammo and time, right?
Not a problem for the Imperium, who never ever run out of resources in any fluff bit I've read.

>You do realize you can only pack too many tanks on a street, right?
And?

>You do realize in urban environment multi-stories building exists, and that you can't just aim all your gun that high, resulting in you have to destroy ALL such buildings, to ensure safety, right?
That's why you take some Hydra Flakk tanks with you to shoot at those pesky windows like real armies do with their AA guns in urban combat.

>Please, please tell me this is a bait.
No it isn't, one of us is actually that retarded. Who it is we'll find out on the next episode.

>>54813153
>They have more limitations
Such as?

>sometimes you want to defend things without just blowing them up
Which is my original post was questioning the relevance of infantry in OFFENSIVE OPERATIONS.

part 1/2

>>54813433
Didn't it specifically refer to a one shot Krak Missile tube that they handed out like candy?

>>54813423
You can charge any units you want, they just all get overwatch on you.

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>>54813436
>>54813447
>>54813450
1 more question. Red is my unit, black and blue is enemies. Can i split my attacks between enemy units?

>>54813431
You're unaware of the might Cantankrian Circle tactic?

>>54813471
Yes, but the models that fight have to be within 1" of a model in the unit they're targeting, or within 1" of a model that is.

So the models in your unit on the far left probably couldn't direct attacks at the models in the blue unit.

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Wound up with a free Primaris Apothecary and I wanted to gently convert him for my Imperial Fists. Gotta clean him a little next.

Thoughts on what to add or change?

>>54813274
>S4 conscripts

Even da boyz are scared.

>>54813457
>Not a problem for the Imperium, who never ever run out of resources in any fluff bit I've read.
logistics are still a thing in 40k

>>54813471
You're technically rolling "one at a time", but realistically you're just rolling for groups. so guys engaged with black will all attack black squad, and guys engaged with blue will all attack blue squad. Unless this was from a consolidation though, you had to declare a charge against BOTH units to engage them both, allowing them both to fire overwatch against you.

As it involves only one of your units, it counts as one activation for you during the fight phase, no matter how many enemy units they are engaged with.

>>54813491
his posing screams "delet this, heretic"

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>>54813495
>catachan
>conscripts

>>54813476
>In the distant past, our ancestors on Terra would circle their "wagons" as a military tactic
>Obviously "wagons" refers to some form of STC super-heavy vehicle long since lost to us, but the same principle should apply to our own tanks

>>54813457
This idiotic anon still believes that
>auspex have more than 50 meter range
>auspex can penetrate rockcrete
>Void shields are rare and almost never seen.
>The Imperium never runs out of ammo
>Hydra are suited to urban combat

stay tuned for part 2!

>>54813468
Might be. But I distinctly remember one of the books had a tread-fether team that had one person humping the launcher tube with the other carried a satchel of the missiles and prayed they didnt get hit. But I think, that for the Tanith specifically, the term might have been used as an all encompassing term for AT munitions.

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>>54813517
>Hydra are suited to urban combat
Hydra is ready for anything

>>54813487
>>54813501
Thanks guys

>>54813533
Well played

>>54813096
>If a tank is just sitting there you are using it wrong. The whole point of armored warfare is mobility.
The problem is that vehicles in 8th edition don't inherently have relentless like they used to.

A 15% worse chance of hitting with your expensive heavy weaponry is a downer.

>>54813457

I...I certainly not insulting you, but sorry, I do need to chuckle a bit, if you don't mind. Will rep after part 2.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13679701

I am an indecisive faggot

>>54813517
Wait, 50 metre range? Fuck, that's absolutely tiny. What's even the point of using them?

>>54812311
>Why does the Imperium still use infantry in offensive operations? Everything a tactical marine can do a Nuclear warhead can do better.

>>54813564
Geographical surveillance, that of a peaceful/abandon/safe place, not where everone try to kill you.

>>54813429
The fuck is this channel
the tg soundtrack from 85?

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>>54813457
>Not a problem for the Imperium, who never ever run out of resources in any fluff bit I've read

In one of the Guant's Ghosts novels a mixup leaves them running short on lasgun ammo. LASGUN AMMO, ANON.

Vance Motherfucking Stubbs LOST 100 Baneblades in the middle of an invasion.

The Imperium may not be wanting for resources, but that doesn't mean they're all available everywhere. Some beep boop records a 1 instead of a 0 and you wind up 100,000 Mars pattern shells for your Lucius pattern cannons.

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Why does Orkz still use Boyz?
Anything they could do a Stompa could do better!

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Men may argue forever on what wins their wars
and welter on cons and pros.
And seek their answers at history's doors,
But the Man With the Rifle Knows.
He must stand on the ground on his own two feet,
And he's never in doubt when it's won.
If it's won he is there, if he's not it's defeat.
That's his test when the fighting is done.

When he carries the fight it's not with a roar
of armoured wings spitting death.
It's creep and crawl on the earthen floor,
Butt down and holding his breath.
Saving his strength for the last low rush,
Grenade throw and bayonet thrust;
And the whispered prayer before he goes in,
Of a man who does what he must.

And when he's attacked, he can't zoom away,
When the shells fill the world with their sound.
He stays where he is, loosens his spade,
And digs his defence in the ground.
That ground isn't ours till he's there in the flesh
Not a gadget, or a bomb, but a man.
He's the answer to theories which start afresh
With each peace since war began.

So let the wild circle of argument rage
On what wins as war comes and goes.
Many new theories may hold the stage,
BUT THE MAN WITH THE RIFLE KNOWS

Part 2/3

>>54813159
>You don't have access to the entire material might of the Imperium in a single warzone, the Departmento Munitorum notoriously barely sends enough resources to any given warzone. This is assuming those resources even make it to the warzone
They didn't have much of a problem on Vraks, where they kept losing millions in men and vehicles and just casually kept replacing them as if nothing happened. And all of those resources where coming from a single planet (Krieg)

>Also why the fuck would the Imperium use Stormtalons and Vultures for recon, aircraft are only good for recon when it comes to finding vehicles and other large obvious targets.
They are gunships, can't they fly slowly and low enough to perform efficient recon?

>>54813180
Please quote the part of my post you are replying to or I'll have no idea what you're talking about even in the case you made a good point.

>>54813190
They don't have enough Titans? AdMech being dicks over their titanic engines?

>>54813201
>what is a fleet of minesweeper clearing a path
Even WW2 had those, to great effect against soviet defensive strategies.

>>54813215
Thread fethers?

>>54813307
If it detects heat it can pierce walls, no? Rockcrete is also cheaper concrete, ferro-crete is probably what you meant, but those aren't used for civilian buildings.

>>54813309
>scanner bit
Right, but you can mount them on a servo-skull, erasing the problem.

>So what do you do if they're out of range or it's a building you cannot afford to destroy?
Out of range? Drive closer. There is little to no building the Imperium can not afford tk destroy, if they casually destroyed a place like Vraks anything short of the Imperial Palace is fair game.

>Or if they're inside a sprawling manufactorum, full of hallways and tunnels your tanks can't get anywhere near?
Bomb the place with your aircraft.

>>54813333
What AA? Flakk missiles? Most 40k gunships can tank a ton of those and kill the infantry before they go down.

>>54813597
That fuckup with the power packs was hilarious.

>>54813609
Because 100+ melee rolls a turn have the extra effect of giving your opponent PTSD

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>>54812280
A rabble group of word bearers acting as the body guard to the infamous dark apostle, Emeritus the 3rd. the 1st Emeritus is a daemon prince that ascended during the war in the webway and wont stop talking about it, hasn't done jack shit since then. second went insane so we put him in the helbrute. 3rd is a cocky asshole that loves converting hives to chaos then fucking off and watching the planet tear itself apart before swooping down and taking what ever geneseed and tech he can get his hands on from what ever clean up crew was sent to fix it before leaving the doomed planted to its fate.

>>54813643
Well shit, you managed to make Word Bearers interesting to me. Well done.

How many word bearers and alpha legion are in this thread, seems like everyone is either chaos or guard.

>>54813625
You seem to be relying most of your argument on Vraks anon.

Also... do you think that Surveyor Skulls actively transmit their realtime findings back to whoever sent them out?

>>54812280
Kabal of the Shattered Mind.
Led by a fucking psychotic bitch who believes her children were devoured by She Who Thirsts (This didn't happen she's just insane) the Kabal takes special joy in separating children from parents and making parents watch their children be tortured. Except red haired ones, those are kept as dolls by the Archon until they too eventually die or grow up.

>>54813668
Could post a straw poll during the day. Get a read on what the army/legion distribution looks like.

So I'm looking to put together a little 1000 pt Tau army for some kitchen table play (8th Edition). Anyone able to take a look at this and let me know what they think?

Battalion (+3 CP)

-- HQ --
Commander 171 Pts (Fusion Blaster x3, Missile Pod, Gun Drone x2)
Cadre Fireblade 42 Pts

-- Troops --
5x Fire Warriors 40 Pts
5x Fire Warriors 40 Pts
5x Fire Warriors 40 Pts

-- Elites --
3x Crisis Suits 257 Pts (3x Plasma Rifle per Suit, 4x Gun Drones)

-- Heavy --
1x Broadside 205 Pts (Heavy Rail Rifle, 2x Smart Missile System, Target Lock, 2 Gun Drones)
1x Broadside 205 Pts (Heavy Rail Rifle, 2x Smart Missile System, Target Lock, 2 Gun Drones)
I know Broadsides aren't great, but the model is so damn cool. Any suggestions/comments?

>>54813625
>Short range
>Detects heat

>But it penetrates concrete, right?

Are you actually retarded? Like, diagnosed and everything?

>>54813702
Guy probably has coat hanger scars on his forehead

The GW video made me think, Why hasnt anyone done like an ongoing show with warhammer figures

Like red vs blue or arby n chief but with warhams

>>54813625
It could be any kind of AA, up to and including the enemies own air support. The whole point of infantry is to reveal these kind of things before you engage with your heavier stuff so you're striking first instead of the enemy.

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>>54813668
Some

>>54812235
Next thread we have to decide on the tallymans name.

I vote bubon from accounting.

>>54813625
>They didn't have much of a problem on Vraks
They do. Munitorum grant them lots of resources due to the commander influence, but they are pissed as well.

>They are gunships, can't they fly slowly and low enough to perform efficient recon?

Air recons are not meant for finding infantry, even with high-resolution scanning. They're meant for spotting large formation of troops visible from above. Fast, so you get to react.

>AA for urban fighting

You probably read about the Chechen war as well, so you must know it was also an emergency solution. The Russians later designed the BMPT Terminator just for fucking with urban dwellers, but even that shit is only fire support for infantry in its mission.

>>54813728
>Machanima with figurines
that sounds terrible

Red vs Blue etc. happened because Halo made it relatively easy to make. The same cannot be said for any Warhammer video game.

>>54813743
He looks like a Steve to me.

>>54813752
Craig the Plagued Accountant

>>54813625
>They didn't have much of a problem on Vraks, where they kept losing millions in men and vehicles and just casually kept replacing them as if nothing happened.
There's a battle in the 6th ed guard codex where the forces they use in the battle never go beyond what they initially arrive with resulting in them having to make a reactor melt down to destroy the planet and prevent a Waagh! from forming, resource availability depends entirely on how GW feels at the time of writing.

>They are gunships, can't they fly slowly and low enough to perform efficient recon?
And now they've been shot down by nearby infantry hiding in the bushes they flew over.

>Right, but you can mount them on a servo-skull, erasing the problem.
Assuming it has access to wherever the people are hiding

>Out of range? Drive closer. There is little to no building the Imperium can not afford tk destroy, if they casually destroyed a place like Vraks anything short of the Imperial Palace is fair game.

You realize you can't just destroy every building right? Have fun when the enemy counter attacks and you have no defensive points because you blew up every structure and were caught in the middle of building new ones.

>Bomb the place with your aircraft.
Are you retarded? Manufactorums can literally span planets and reach miles underground. Also the AdMech is going to have you by the balls for casually bombing their shit they expected you to recapture.

>>54813743
Tommy

>>54813625
>40k gunships can tank flakk missiles like nobodies business

Fucking sauce anon

>>54813773
The only sauce he has is what his mother drank when she was carrying him

>>54813743
Is naming him worth a separate thread?

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>>54812747

You can only use models from one army that you find in the respective codex.

You need two troops and a HQ choice minimum and you're further restricted as shown here.

Any special characters or huge specialist models like Baneblades can only be played with your opponents permission.

Most games are around 1500 points so that's a good target to aim for but start with 500.

>>54813779
Vodka and heroin. A cruel combination on a developing fetus.

>>54813691
Hmm, what is this army fighting against?
I would suggest replacing one Gun Drone with a Shield one. The new errata makes them good at trolling again.

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>>54813779
Fetal alcohol syndrome is about the only thing that explains this retardation.

>>54813790
This isn't 6e anymore.

>>54813797

Mostly Marines (BA and BT), and also Tyranids I think.

>>54813782
It's not even worth a seperate post anon

>have an army of space marines, imperial guard, skitarii, and a knight all in the same colors
>opponent asks me why they're painted all the same colors

uh... is there an in universe explanation I can use aside from I like the same color scheme for my guys?

>>54813857
They're formed as a battlegroup for an extremely long campaign?

>>54813857
Well, You can explain IG looking like SM, and IG looking like a Knight, but both at the same time is harder to justify.

>>54813857

"Coincidence"

Alternately, "They're part of a special Imperial Task Force"

If they keep pressing pull out a bolt pistol and shoot them in the face for questioning the wisdom of the Emperor

>>54813883
You could've just said "no" anon.

Is the kheres assault cannon the beat option for a hellforged contemptor?
I Want to use the stratagem to make him shoot twice

>>54813857
>I like the same color scheme for my guys
isn't that the only answer you really need for this shit

>>54813857
Depending on who's leading the army overall. I'd say the Chapter Master or Lord Commander for the guard shanghaied the others into a crusade, and they decided to go whole hog with the team pride. Or if you don't care enough, just say something like "oh, when captain so-and-so realized those other guys shared such a great taste in color, he decide to hang out with such enlightened people."

>>54813337
I didn't finish the last book, but I remember reading on several ocassions that the entire plan was to destroy Vraks and rebuild it later, if that failed it's because of Zhufor's daemonic shenanigans, otherwise they'd have used Exterminatus from the start.

>>54813357
Range is not a problem in urban combat anon. And most tanks have pintle-mounts or are tall enough to shoot a heavy bolter at a window.

>>54813405
>"There is lierally no way to win such a scenario, Commander. If you can't use combined arms but you enemy can, you lost the war from the start."

>>54813431
You don't have to drive in circles anon, most tanks can rotate their turrets even in the 2nd millenium.

>>54813497
Yes anon. Your point?

>>54813517
>auspex range
If you put it on a servo-skull then yes.

>void shields
Don't save you from a tank. How common could they be though?

>ammunition
They literally never do, read Siege of Vraks.

>hydra suited for urban combat
You do realize AA guns are extremely popular in urban combat right? The capacity to aim their guns at tall buildings, rotate them fast and high rate of fire make them ideal.

>>54813551
I'm talking about fluff.

>>54813597
Okay anon, but that doesn't take the fact that you can scan your enemies out with a servo-skull or two and thus not waste any ammo.

>>54813671
>you seem to be basing most of your arguments on official FW fluff
The horror.

>real time servo skull transmission
Well, where does it say they don't?

>>54813702
Walls give no heat. Living, breathing creatures behind them do. Please stop projecting your limitations anon.

>>54813732
If it's air-support, you counter with your own air support, no infantry needed. Flakk guns? Big and obvious and can be bombed or shot by tanks. SAMs? Not a thing in 40k. Sabre-plataforms and Flakk missiles can be tanked and taken out like I said before.

part 3/a sea of fucking (you)s

>>54813857
>skit, guard and knight are all from the same forgeworld
>marines have extremely close ties to this forgeworld and they always have a company on rotation with their other armed forces wearing the same colors

>>54813883
I really like "Coincidence". Like, they all showed up to the battle and only realized then that they had the same color scheme and were all "Well three of us are going to have change".

>>54813857
Administratum error

>clerk looking through files
>notices several armies with same colour scheme
>groups them together out of convinience/autism
>mistaken for a battle group and deployed as such

>>54813921
Your tanks and support all died to artillery as I spotted them all as you have no counter recon.

>>54813921
>Okay anon, but that doesn't take the fact that you can scan your enemies out with a servo-skull or two and thus not waste any ammo.

What the fuck is wrong with you

>>54813871
>>54813875
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>>54813926
>>54813931
>>54813938

Thanks for the ideas anons, got something to work with

>>54813857
My R&H are in a similiar scheme to my BL and my lord of skulls is in a quartered paint scheme of red and black. My reasoning in-game is the R&H serve my BL leader and the lord of skulls is part of his warband. Out-of-game, I just like dark color schemes and wanted the armies to match

>>54813609
Source on image?

>>54813857
SM chapter takes over a mechanicus system
Local Magos swears allegiance to the chapter and brings his hired freeblade with him into serving the chapter
The Chapter claims a planet for their recruitment, the regiment from there becomes their human serfs similar to the Ultramar auxilia


Boom, done. I do think they should have variations of the paint scheme instead of being all the same.

>>54813096
>If a tank is just sitting there you are using it wrong. The whole point of armored warfare is mobility

>>54813921
>You don't have to drive in circles anon, most tanks can rotate their turrets even in the 2nd millenium.

Now you're just contradicting yourself

>>54813938
Administratum error is my go to explanation for anything fishy.
>Why does your air cavalry have artillery pieces?
>Why are we fighting over empty crates and fuel cans?
>Why are your IG fighting alongside tyranids in this 2v2 game?

>>54813921
>Range is not a problem in urban combat anon.
Have you never seen what a hive world looks like?

>Yes anon. Your point?
Having the resources and actually getting them where they need to be are two entirely different things.

>>54813491
Looks awesome imo, I like how the posing suggests he's using his medical sight to aim at whatever he's shooting at.

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>>54812276
Whos that? Is that one of those forgotten primarchs?

>>54813809
Looks like 3rd ed newfag.

>>54812280
The Kabal of the Gilded Crown, and their personal Haemonculus Coven, the Coven of the Argent Scepter.

>Led by an Archon who fancies himself a king, like in the days long before the fall, he organizes his Kabal as a royal court, and uses garishly bright colors to both present a regal presence and distract/intimidate enemies. The Kabal is notable for its heavy focus on gun batteries and large numbers of warriors, and a marked lack of wyches hired to assist. The only "mercenaries" hired by the Gilded Crown are Scourges crafted by the Argent Scepter, taking the most valiant and valorous of Kabalites of other Kabals and granting them a position of nobility and authority, while simultaneously undermining the Kabal's rivals.

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>Basilica Administratum

>>54813130
why succubi instead of archons with blasters?

the blaster in the kabalite squads should be on a warrior, unless you mean blast pistol.

drop the blast pistols on your solarites, these are mainly gonna be long ranged shooting, so a special pistol is a waste.

i'd switch the voidravens into razorwings.

>>54813169
wyches fold like wet paperbags, i would keep the warriors

>>54813625
>And all of those resources where coming from a single planet (Krieg)
Only the men were coming from Krieg. Their food was coming from Agri-World GWdoesn'tcareenoughtoname, their weapons, tanks and ammo were coming from Lucius, etc.

>>54813921
>desperately clings to a single piece of canon while ignoring other pieces of canon that contradict his argument
>Thinks that anything that can detect heat can do it through concrete
>keeps pretending skull probes have existed anywhere in the fluff outside of DoW games

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>>54812464
Is that barbed wire held down with blue tac?

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Anyone here play Gangs of Commorragh?

Thinking of picking it up, is it fun?

>>54813921
>read Siege of Vraks

You should probably read the Damoclese books, the crusade literally ends because the Imperium does not have infinite material and has to redeploy their resources elsewhere.

>>54813912
>"There is lierally no way to win such a scenario, Commander. If you can't use combined arms but you enemy can, you lost the war from the start."

No, that means you fight with infantry. Do a massed rush to get as many bodies into the hive as possible. Sneak through the sewers. Use storm clearance tactics, fighting for every bloody inch all the way. You are to take the city, or you will be executed for disobeying orders, no matter how foolish. For all you know, the enemy psykers re preparing a ritual that when completed would tear open a warp rift that rivals the size of the Eye of Terror, and the ritual site is so far below ground that the only way to get to it is to flood the tunnels with infantry because your tanks won't fit and planes can't burrow through half a mile of solid stone.

I don't understand, so now iron warriors accept marks again????

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Would you object to this counts as land raider? I am trying to magnetize my repulsor to use as both.

>>54814084
while they generally don't use marks they do use khorne/berserkers from time to time

>>54814039
I was told basically the exact opposite of everything you just said aside from the particulars of the unit gear, but I was leaning more toward the Archons and the Warriors anyways.

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>>54814085

>>54814085
If they're about the same size, and since they have a similar profile, I wouldn't have a problem with it, just as long as you don't object to Battleforce Grey Tide.

>>54813743
Golglug, the other tallymen of nurgle.

>>54814085
Is it about the same size as an LR? Gun location on the top might cause some issues if you use that for LoS as opposed to where the sponsons would be