Friends of Humans

>>54804543
It could simply be that harpies trade their mobility for roosting in human's towers and even homes for the winter. Harpies could be nomadic flocks that have traditional alliances and grudges with various human factions. Controlling or eradicating groups of them would be critical for wars, and they could be dwindling in numbers but too far removed from their old ways to stop relying on humans.

>>54804543
Yo I wanna fuck that bird.

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>>54804586
Never actually thought to make them nomadic, though I guess the whole flying south for the winter thing can tie into that pretty well

I can imagine the humans trying to build better harpy accommodations in an attempt to woo them to their side, a sort of ally cold war between the northern n southern kingdoms

Ratmen who burrow out vast shadow-cities directly underneath human cities of any size. All the human waste and garbage drains down great channels where the ratfolk use it as fertilizer for the fungus from which they make their bread-like staple food. Human cities are consequently the cleanest and healthiest of any surface dwellers, and they house really huge populations.

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>>54804656

>>54804543
If you go the fairy tale that happened way in the past route, you can contrive a reason for any two races to be long-term allies

>Prince/princess from [Race A] is stranded in [hostile environment]
>Is saved by member of [Race B]
>Vows never to forget what [Race B] had done for them
>Time passes
>Prince/princess finds out that [Race B] is going through [crippling problem or natural disaster]
>Uses his/her kingdom's resources to save [Race B] from certain doom
>[Race A] and [Race B] were friends ever since

Bonus points for the two races intermarrying between noble houses, and especially for the prince/princess marrying the one that saved them when they were young.

>>54804543
A super-pious human nation might be able to work directly and regularly with the choirs of angels. Same with a super-unholy/occult bunch and the legions of Hell.

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>>54804711
pottery

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>>54804698
So wait, that makes it sound like the rats are living there without the humans knowing, and having them live in the trash heap dont seem to allyish either

>>54804543
>I was trying to figure out a way to work harpies
Do yo have a harpy fetish?

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>>54804837
I like em, but not enough to get lewd with em

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>>54804543
>Goblins
BDO had them serve as a sort of slave/work race that was given protection and homestead in return for basically serving the kingdom. Probably a lot better to work for humans instead of orcs anyway.

>>54804810

Giant channels leading down into the earth don't appear overnight and if they did people would probably look into where they came from before throwing all their trash and shit in.

I'm thinking the two empires do a great deal of trade. Humans sending down spices, more luxury types foods, cotton and eool, etc. Agricultural products you need sunlight to make, basically. The rats send back ores they've mined and strange semi-magical contraptions they've invented.

The rats need all the run off from cities to tend their little fungus gardens and were used to having to sneak and hide around surface dwellers. Elves murdered them for being disgusting little abominations and the dwaves wanted the surface and underground both.

They were thrilled when they met Humans who were willing to have them around. When the first diplomatic party to openly approach a human town asked what they wanted in exchange for being allowed to live below and have the humans toss their garbage down, the local lord joking replied that it would only be ok if they took the sewage too. Humans have had a reputation for absurd generosity ever since.

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>>54805049
>When the rats actually want your trash and sewage

That pretty hilarious and weirdly cute in a way

>>54804543

Harpies dont have to be dumb to be allies, in fact the smarter the better.

Harpies can fly. That alone gives them an advantage that humans would benefit greatly from their help.

Humans have hands. We can make things harpies cant.

The harpies that trade their services to humans will end up with clothing, trinkets, weapons and armor that other harpies wont have. In return, they act as messengers, scouts, hunters, and explorers. Perhaps even merchants. A flock of harpies might not carry as much as a wagon train, but they can cross the distance faster and easier than by land.

And nothing prevents a harpy from following a wagon or ship if they want to, so they have the best of both worlds there.

>>54804543
Rather than harpies, gargoyles might make more sense? they roost among the roofs and stonework of human cities, acting as security in return for food from homeowners. Of course it does force the humans into a certain gothic aesthetic, so the gargoyles can hide successfully..

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>>54804912
>Confusing Ajattara with harpies

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>>54805180
Never heard of it before, the pic is a storm harpy from Ronja, the Robber's Daughter

>>54805176
I always saw gargoyles as more of a construct of magic then an actual living creature/race

>>54805034
A setting I'm working on has the "modern goblin" as a result of other humanoid races taking savage goblin kids and raising them into servents, these pet goblins slowly gained more respect over the years, benafitting from better hygiene,
Diets, and education, meanwhile wild goblins consider these uran gobbos to be weaklings and race traitors

>>54804543
Depends; do they have to be "traditional" fantasy races, or can we get off the beaten track?

For example, Mystara had an empire ruled by Aranea, which are superhumanly intelligent talking giant spiders with an innate affinity for wizardry. The aranea used their magic to help and protect the less generlly-magical humans, and in return humans gave them domesticated livestock and took care of all the things that a bunch of spider-wizards weren't physically adept at doing.

>>54805262
The D&D versions at least are alive, not constructs, besides magical creatures still need to eat (sometimes). They're basically ambush predators, they disguise themselves as statues in order to pounce on prey. The discworld version of gargoyles acted to control the pidgeon population. Maybe they could go with a version that eat rocks, and were conjured up long ago, perhaps by a now fallen magocracy.

>>54805262
>vildvittror
>harpies

>>54805604
that's a harpy dude

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>>54804543
>Pixies
Humans are bigger than anything that might eat them, and always have jobs that can be done easier by tiny people with wings.

>>54804543
Entire races universally being friends with entire other races is silly. At best you have a King who is pals with another King for whatever reason, so you see mixed armies more often, which naturally leads to the respect people typically gain for their companions in a fight, but they always could have who knows what kind of problems of their own popping up on their borders due to cultural or resource issues.

I don't really see how it's hard justifying scattered friendships between any two intelligent, social creatures, even if ones a "monster" that lacks written language or culture and an unsophisticated form of vocal communication. Just have a hunter find a harpy in one of their traps, feels pity for an intelligent creature and ignores the village superstition that harpies are murderous monsters, sets it free, Harpy and Hunter seeing more of each other cause their hunting grounds overlap, eventually it just clicks they could work together for more food, after some initial resistance for the sake of tradition the village picks up on the practice. Village becomes being famous for their Harpy companions, local Lord decides he wants some of that hunting prowess in his ranks during war time, exposing other people to the fact people and harpies can work together in many ways, a few other villages pick up Harpy relations, some are to stuck in their ways to trust each other.

>>54805034
>>54805276
So, folkloric hobgoblins?

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>>54805049
>and if they did people would probably look into where they came from before throwing all their trash and shit in.

Toppest kek.

>>54805112
Eh, they're basically in control of the raw materials used in the paper industry, manure production, tanning and have their paws on bleaching, which is an essential step in producing high-quality fabric.

They also getting pretty good quality animal feed for free, meaning they can raise pigs, fish, crabs or whatever other animal they got that won't mind a diet of household trash.

It's not the most honourable occupation, but it's a useful and profitable one.

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>>54805644
Whats the difference between pixies and fairies in this case? Or are the names interchangeable

>>54805604
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>all the most important parts for a harpy

>>54804543
Centaurs could be one but more in the terms of pechenegs or other turkic hordes, meaning not really allies but helps you if you pay them, you know just mercs and situational allies to protect themselves from more dangerous foes.

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>>54805793
All of those faces are priceless, also source?

>>54805846

Latest Dungeon Meshi
>>54779875

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>>54805839
I always figured centaurs would make good merchants or caravaners considering they're their own transport

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>>54804543
Pretty much any species that lacks the hands to craft human luxuries but posses intelligence and some sort of skills that humans could benefit from .

>>54805728
One is a little flying person and the other is the reason you hang horseshoes above the door.

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>>54804656

>>54805728

Depending on the setting the last thing you want to hear is "Daddy, the faeries said I can play hide and seek with them yesterday!"

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>>54804543
How about a human/giant spider alliance?

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Chupacabras as housepets.
Males are quadrupeds, females are bipedal with wings.

Giants are the decadent, fallen big brothers of mankind.

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>>54806305

>>54805170

I can imagine a harpy merchant who owns several trucks and will occasionally fly to the city they want to do trade in to let them know they are coming. Then they fly around and check on the status of their trucks and have custom perches for them to sit on so they can chill on the trucks for a bit

Obviously I'm more for modern-esque type settings so the trucks I imagine are more like Model Ts sorta.

>>54804801
>Centaurs were known for being legends or rape

Hmmmm...Really makes me think.

>>54805698
Holy shit, lol. I've never seen that painting before, and it's great.

>>54805793
Why are harpies so smug, lads?

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>>54806921
Dunno man.

>>54806921

Because they thought they were getting a free meal until Farlyne got merc'd.

That said, seeing dog bro go full snarl is always a pleasure to see

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>>54806921
They all suffer from resting smug face

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>>54807537

>>54805944
I like to imagine them as mongol/turks literal horse peoples. It just fits in so well.

>>54807238
W-What did he mean by this?

>>54808096

Exactly the way it sounded. Kubrow did the party a favor by sliting her throat like the monster she is.

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>>54804656

>>54806218
I kinda want context

>>54804543
Dog people.

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>>54804543
>what are some races that would serve as an interesting long term ally for humans rather then the standard Dwarf, Elf combo?

I feel like Centaur would be the obvious choice, I'm surprised it isn't even the first response.

And I don't mean in an ironic, "lel rape" sense, but in an actual, "We would probably have a lot in common with Centaurs, more so than Dwarves or Elves and our relationship with them in a fantasy setting would most likely be very personal and complicated."

If anything, I find it confusing why Centaurs are always paired up with ELVES or living in WOODS, Horses don't live in the damn WOODS.

>>54808827
>If anything, I find it confusing why Centaurs are always paired up with ELVES or living in WOODS, Horses don't live in the damn WOODS.
Most RPG writers have never interacted with horses, or most other animals, so they tend to believe that "humans live in plains, all other animals live in forests".

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>>54804543
Very small dragons.

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>>54808668
Arent Japanese Kobolds basically dogs?

>>54804543
In my setting humanitys main mortal ally are a bunch of fly like thri-kreen almost the other side of the country. They are pretty buddy buddy even though theor differences thanks to being spawn of the same primordial gods who are being heavily suppressed by the other races and their one true god beleif.

They're pretty brutal together and got both fate and a demi-god avatar of the gods with them.

>>54808827
Centaurs get along with both humans and elves in Dragonlance, and share cities with humans and elves. The ones hanging out with elves don't make sense because the whole, you know, horses in the woods thing, but at least they like humans too.

Only weird part is that Dragonlance Centaurs of both genders like to flirt with humans.

>>54809022
Yes and for europe they're rats and america they are small dragons.

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>>54809112
So a bunch of flys are of the same creation as humans?

>>54809121
>Only weird part is that Dragonlance Centaurs of both genders like to flirt with humans.

That doesn't sound too weird, what makes you say that? Horses are pretty sexually aggressive and so are Humans.

MALE stablehands get sexually assaulted by female horses all the time- I can only imagine Centaurs would be downright flirty and dirty given their unique chimeric combination of sexually charged species.

>>54804543
In my setting humans and Goblins are closest allies. This goes so far that, despite unions between the races are infertile there is no difference in a social point of view between the races. The live in the same settlements, visit the same schools, celebrate the same holidays and die sude by side in the same battles.

The reason being both races are completely incapable of magic or miracles. Elves see them as primitive savages and Dwarfs as godless misfits, while the other fantasy races at best view them as pitiful.

>>54809180
Yes, pretty much. most races actually are, but these are eldritch horror kinda primordials. They kinda do things real weird. One moment they create ogres made out of randomly placed and sized body parts and the other they create cats.

Also yes I am hiding my magical realm behind it but hush hush

>>54809186
>MALE stablehands get sexually assaulted by female horses all the time
Never heard of it going that way.

And I meant weird more in the sense of 'gross'.

>>54809126
One of the few instances of mythology where nobody was copying notes off of each other.

>>54805698
The heck is going on in this pic?

>>54809409
Around foxes, lock your boxes.

>>54809186
>MALE stablehands get sexually assaulted by female horses all the time
"Sexually assaulted" isn't really the right term. When a horse gets in heat they like to bump their nethers against pretty much anything, most female mammals in similar situations do. It's just that when dealing with a large animal that typically gets more freedom of movement in their stalls and that you're often dealing with specifically for the purpose of breeding, since thats where all the cash with a horse comes from, the experience of being that thing the mare happens to be bumping into happens a lot more often.

>>54809780
Wrong thread bud.

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>>54805604
>>54805180
>listed in the credits as "harpy"

>>54805345
Mystara was fun and weird.

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>>54805262
>That bone cracking sound they make as they move

Why did this give me an erection?

>>54810735
It was, and we need a 5e update of it, if only because the gonzo races it offers would be a breath of fresh air for those of us who like to make our settings from scratch.

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How about lizardbros? Perhaps nomadic lizardmen who live in the steppes and are relied upon as merchants between two distant but wealthy empires and act as sellswords when the need arises. Though that might be more fitting for centaurs.

>>54810769

What is the context of that scene. I'm not sure whether to have Post Traumatic Shindol Syndrome or be aroused.

>>54810859
The Harpy one or the Maleficent one?

>>54810851
>human kingdom borders a dense swamp
>lizardbros agree to monitor and defend swamp from invaders in exchange for human made goods
>humans like to hire lizard mercs for various reasons because lizards make other people scared

>>54808621
>Boy has snake girl fetish
>Guy gets app that lets him turn girls into monstergirls
>He thinks it's just a picture thing but it actually works
>Turns girl that has a crush on him into snek girl
>They fuck
>Turns her back but with future option to do it snake style later

As far as porn plots go there's worse. It's done pretty cutely at least. It's called "monster girl transformation go"

>>54810851
People think of lizards as being too alien in behavior.

>>54810967

The maleficent one. Maleficent in general is boner inducing but that gif makes me uneasy

>>54811312
I think it's just a scene were she giving exposition to her minions and then something happens due to their idiocy that causes all her little goblins start beating the crap out of each other. Which she finds amusing.

>>54811131
Really, I figured it would be a Touhou doujin.

>>54804543
>what are some races that would serve as an interesting long term ally for humans

Dogs.

>>54811405

Okay, thank you for allaying my fears. My mind is tainted to the point where I only see the worst and for whatever reason the first thing that came to my mind was the goblins tearing the princess to shreds and I was horrified and disgusted.

>>54808122
And effectively broke Laitus. The psycho just lost the only reason for him to act even remotely sane. Everyone there is about to die, plus I don't think dark elf DM is going to let her boss monster go down that easily after rezzing it.

>>54812016

Then if Laius is going to turn into Jason Voorhes then he should (rightfully) direct it at the Dark Elf GM who did that to Farlyne

>>54809985
Well, I mean that just sort of comes from people making something based off foreign (Swedish) source material.

>>54812283
>bird lady
>more different bird lady
I see your point, though.

Dwarves and ratmen. The ratmen lived in ancient mines first dug out by the dwarves, and when the dwarves discovered their presence, instead of extermination, they made the ratmen pay rent in servitude. The ratmen, seeing the force of the Dwarven militias, became subservient to the dwarves. Some disaster happened, and the Dwarven king ruled that the ratmen receive equal citizenship. The dwarves now find friendship with ratmen, but secretly it's because they think that ratmen are hilarious as drinking buddies.

"Oy lads, look at him chug! The poor critter is chasing his tail now. Holy shit Jeffery you're smashed off your bonce"

Humans and Avians. The setting contains floating islands. Air elementals hunt Avians for sport, as the Avians lack the magical weapons to fight back. They flock to humans that can produce magical weapons for them, and enchant their talons. Humans require transport between islands

>>54812345
Different tribes of humans instead ally themselves with the air elementals, cause they are more powerful. They act as traps and game wardens for the elementals.

>>54812397
>traps
I think you had a bit of a Freudian slip there

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Why do so many smol races seem to like humans anyhow?

>>54813872
Big, strong and tough relatively
Strong instincts to protect small and cute things

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>>54809121
>Centaurs in Dragonlance
Did they bother to show up for the War of the Lance?
No?
Then they don't fucking matter in the setting.

>>54810859
The moment you try to find out if Shindol has a Maleficent one in there. You know if it's there it's going to stab you right in the heart but the art would be so good...

I want out of this abusive relationship...

As for the topic at hand, I have humans using various races pretty regularly. Orcs / Minotaurs make great muscle, plus the former has a rather ridged might makes boss social structure so as long as you are stronger then their strongest they will unquestionably follow your orders to the letter and then some, and would only challenge if they feel you are lacking. Minotaurs are significantly more... simple, they get food and a roof, they could care less what you have them do. Even before humans picked them up they had Orcs / Goblins manage them while they just did what they were told and let them work out the logistics of it.

Also Goblins are used based on their "tribe". More feral ones have huge birth rates and are used as expendables, either as breakwater troops in the front or suicide bombers. Even other goblin clans will use them to deposit / use explosives just where they need them in mining. More city types call themselves clans and sort themselves by guild however, and they do all the thievery, assassations, smuggling, and delivery. Humans generally can't get into those fields (aside from small time) due to sharp negotiation tactics. They really like shiny things as a race, and took well to human coins. As for humans, they like the gobbo's cause having expendables are always good, and their ability to navigate cities / get exactly what you "need" is unparalleled. Plus they generally have rules and enforce them well and throw in the Orcs on the other side doing police work and cities become significantly more calm then many other races.

>>54814193
Don't be rude.

>>54812046
Honestly, the projected 'we're all gonna rule the dungeon together' ending bothers me, because it honestly feels really stale and predictable at this point in Japanese fantasy.

>>54814214
Honestly, I was just hoping to be proven wrong about them not being there for The Only Good Thing About the Setting.
Seriously, I have no desire whatsoever to have more adventures in the further, fucked future of the setting that offers nothing really unique; if we're ever going back there, I just want to re-tell the War of the Lance, in a way that makes sense, isn't railroad-y, and incorporates all the extra people they've added to the world (like Tinker Gnomes and, apparently, centaurs.)

Coastal sea mammal race, something like otter but with out being murderous shit heads

Or they are murderous shit heads and you can set them as "the sea Orks" or sea people....

>>54814312
always liked the concept of giantish sapient hermit crabs(non communicative normally) who kinda just have moments looking at the weird humanfolk before lumbering back down the beach to continue their eterna lwar with those cunts we call seagulls

>>54805728
Dullahans are also fairies so its best to be specific

>>54809985
Poor translation.
Harpies are quite different.

Might as well equate them with Angels if you don't care about the differences.

>>54814416
Watching druids try to talk to seagulls is always hilarious beyond reason

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>>54811405
>>54811482
No, that's the part where she captures prince Philip. Her little goblins are bumblingly and cartoonishly tying him up

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>>54806329
spider a cute

>hurrrrrrrr x is a cute!
and you wonder why you autistic neckbeard losers have no real life friends. Grow the fuck up

>>54806305
GIFTS are total bros in the underground rpg game the name of which escapes me at this second.

>>54817559
Jesus anon, who pissed in your cereal this morning

>>54817559
Maybe you are projecting a little bit?

>>54804543
Intelligent Slimes. All the same benefits as Ratpeople.

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>>54805728
Pixies are better fighter pilots.

Take any Tarkir non-human species.

You got nice dig men, orc, and misspelling

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>>54818855
My nigga

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>>54817559
Ay fuck you, I'll think stuff is cute all I damn want

>>54804543
Dogs.

Cats are on-and-off-again, very fickle allies.

>>54805049
These elves sound Lorwyn-y.

>>54809326
Even put together, these seem pretty week. How do they manage to survive?

>>54817651
it was me DIO!

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>>54809390
Ackshually....

Things are like this because everyone was copying notes off of everyone, and no one bothered reading more than a few lines of each other's notebook.

The Japanese think that kobolds are dogs because of a line in their first edition DnD manual that described them as having "dog like faces". At the time, And was entirely fan translated, and the translators didn't speak English well, and interpreted this to mean "dog people". This is also the reason Japanese people think orcs are pig people. Poor translation of DnD books basically formed the majority of Japanese exclusive fantasy tropes.

The trend of Kobolds being portrayed as lizard people started with DnD manuals mentioning that kobolds believed they had dragon blood, or dragon lineage. Eventually this deteriorated into "kobolds are tiny dragon people descended from actual dragons."

Picture of an adorable ratto unrelated.

>>54819980
dats a smol dog

>>54804543
>Harpies attack caravans
>The king is already gathering an army for war with his cousin, bribes them in return for safe passage
>Next king inherits conflict, has the idea to give Harpies places to roost on the walls of every city in exchange for scouting the area for marching armies which some Harpies take him up on during the winter to avoid migration
>Next king grants them citizenship in return for military service, Harpies are rigged with one-shot crossbows on their backs they can activate with their talons for assassinations and harassment as medieval drones
>Four generations later Harpies are fully integrated in society and repeater crossbow/bomber Harpies make it the only nation with an airforce in the south

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>>54817520

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>>54808668
>>54809022
>>54811448
>>54819558
>>54820034
I wonder who could be behind these posts?

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>>54817651
IT WAS ME, BARRY! I PISSED IN YOUR CEREAL!

>>54817559
this
you fucks are pathetic

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>>54817559
Chicks dig guys with dogs.

>>54820749
....I could understand the concern as he is apparently wearing a dead member of her species on him.

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>>54820609
Lord: "Sire weve armed the harpies!"
King: "YOU WHAT!?"
Que screeching and gunfire

Not all humans are allied with each other in my setting obvious so it depends but humans and a half-orc settlement recently allied in my campaign.

Other than that there's no real set allies besides dwarves.

>>54822167
I always found the idea of the half-breeds being ousted as strange, I mean you made em, you fucked em into existence

>>54822756
>you made em
No, some degenerate down the street with no respect for tradition or his bloodline made "it". It's disgusting, he should be stoned, the spawn should be burned, and we should never talk about the fact it happened

>>54822756
Race purity is a weird thing.

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>>54808902
Dragons of all sizes are fine

>>54822887
If its a one time mutant child yeah sure, but if it gets to the point where they're considered a race in of themselves then I dunno. Im reminded of that greentext where the elf is mocking the human by pointing out all the half breeds, centaurs included

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Only one true answer.
bork.

>>54822756
The discrimination would likely come from rural secluded areas. In cosmopolitan places no one gives a fuck, cause it is known that even the Mayor was fucking the Gerbilors ambassador.

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>>54823065
Yeah, I bet it is, Mr Goldberg.

>>54824620
>big cities are hives of degeneracy, where every race fucks every other race

really makes you think

>>54824692
Well you know what they say.
When in Rome, act like a greek and get kicked like a jew.

>>54823108

>Toothless: Liked that didn't ya?

My current homebrew setting has gnolls as less allies and more like somewhat civilized scavengers. They hang outside or near human settlements in their own little shanty slums or take over abandoned buildings. They have a habit of raiding humans when hungry and out of money, which makes them a bit of a nuisance. On the upside, they're excellent short-term workers - their lazy natures make them unsuited for long-term contracts, but give them a clear goal with a decent reward and they get shit done quickly. There's no need for temp worker agencies when finding the nearest group of gnolls will do.

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>>54804543
>it'd be nice to see how they'd work with humans in the case of being allies or long time racial "friends"

Goblins. Keep them more or less as we know them (manic, easily frightened, surprisingly crafty, only sporadically interested in self-preservation, etc.) but on friendly terms with humans willing to help construct cities by getting into areas too small for a standard human, act as pest control by eating rats/bugs, and just be the main force of menial labor due to their ability to procreate quickly and limited capacity for knowledge. The story behind all this could be that long ago a great human kingdom freed the goblins from their cruel orc/hobgoblin/whatever brutish oppressors and gave the goblins some land.

Flumphs. Yeah it is D&D based but you could tailor it to any game where a place as wretched as the Underdark exists. Finding themselves in the hostile not!Underdark humanity was struggling until they came across a race of small seemingly harmless floating creatures. These creatures, who called themselves "Flumphs", turned-out to be of kind disposition and revealed to humanity that they survive within the dark underground depths by feeding off of energy radiated by the thoughts of mortal beings. This shocked those people who met the Flumphs as before man had only previously thought a few among their race could project energy with their minds. The Flumphs went on to explain that the way they feed also allowed them to tell where any relatively nearby creature capable of thought was even if they were unable to be seen with ones eyes. Man offered to show the Flumphs the surface world claiming it lacked most of the hazards the Flumphs faced in the depths and the Flumphs accepted the offer. Since then Flumphs have had societies above ground working closely with their human allies aiding them both emotionally/psychologically and also in exploring the world as the Flumphs' ability to detect thinking creatures has proven invaluable.

>>54822756
>I mean you made em, you fucked em into existence
Doesn't mean you can't be disappointed with the result. Rejection by ones creator is an interesting theme in stories: the Bible (kicked out of paradise, regardless of the creator offering reconciliation, strikes me as rejection), Frankenstein, Dragonlance (Gully Dwarves), a good number of Ridley Scott's works, etc.

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>>54823667
This one Anon? It is my favorite.

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>>54823108

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>>54805793
>Most folks on /tg/
"Fucking Smug Harpies"
>Me
>"HARPIES!"
"Burn their wings and they cannot fly!"
Spoiled because questionable?

>>54806850
Dude, if a hot chick wants to crush me with her enormous horse butt, I'm not gonna complain.

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>>54804543
Golems.
Children want to please their parents after all.

>>54806088
>>54806088
What's this from?

>>54827759
Your google-fu is pathetic but I'm in a good mood: http://www.valsalia.com/

By all rights it should be a fetish comic but somehow is actually full of high-quality worldbuilding and characters that act and interact like real people, I recommend.

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>>54827587
What if it's the rare "naturally-forming" golem?

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>>54826881
I remember the harpies in Dragons Dogma had a surprising depth to them, they'd hang out and preen in water, attack you in a circling flock style tryin to sing and knock you out, and you could even grab onto em and go for a quick fly. It was fun as hell to fight em

>>54804711
Just imagine a world in which all the nobles are half-orc and they look down on purebloods of both races, fiercely guarding their bloodlines like human nobles do.

That could have some interesting political intrigue.

>>54807646
I prefer them as Great Plains Indians. A dude on a horse would wreck a centaur at any type of combat, especially mobile archery.

>>54826881
HARPIES!
SLAY THEM BEFORE THEY CAN USE THEIR VOICE!

>>54828651
It's trivial to create a half orc tho. Just have a kid with an orc. Puebreeds would be more rare and protective of their heritage.

>>54819745
They breed quickly and are therefore numerous. Plus both races have an affinity for technology.

>>54804543
>Centaurs
Relatively low population because of the need for more food to keep each one alive. Nomadic by nature due to aforementioned grazing habits. Humans, being smaller and more able to live in tight quarters (urban) make cities and advance in terms of weapons and armor. Some time in the recent past, a small human(or better yet, dwarf) kingdom on the edge of being erradicated by it's more populus orcish neighbors befriends the centaurs in their lands to arm, armor, and train them as elite shock cavalry and managed to hold off the Invaders. Thereafter the centaurs became the loyal warrior caste of the kingdom.

>Half-orc/corrupted
Humans, because they are the most secular of the traditional fantasy races act as natural guardians, taking in the corrupted who are being purged from the kingdoms of elves and orks alike.

>Mouse-men
Act as informants to the human nobility in urban areas, a fly on every wall

>Faeries
Humans (or elves) guard their sacred groves from incursion in exchange for useful herbs and sacred fruit (various sacred fruit effects could dramatically alter the political dynamics between the races)

>Golems
Dwarves see them as lower life forms and are genociding them for their magical life crystals. Humans see them as equals and rush to their aid.

>>54820691
This isn't not true...

>>54827996
I think those are called earth elementals. Also potentially good allies, probably to nature-worshippers or something.

>>54804543

Always: The wolfs retarded cousin.
On/Off: Furred sociopathic narcissist murderbots.

>>54827587
That golemn though

>>54829026
Can a technological civilization befriend fire elementals for energy production? What can they get in return?

Or seafarers having an air elemental on every ship in case of low wind?

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>>54829748
YE

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>>54829972

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>>54827587
>that fucking golem

>tfw Venus statues are made from rock
>golems are made of rock

I have to try so hard not to throw a Venus statue golem of fertility at my players.

Must. contain. magical. Realm.

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>>54830119
Your resistance is futile.

>>54823108
How to Train You Dragon 2 was massively disappointing compared to the first.

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>>54830119
Alternatively, fuck with their heads by introducing them to a golem school girl.

>>54830119
If golems are created by people, sexy golems are inevitable. One has to wonder how they feel about themselves. Assuming they're well-treated, they probably see their creator's feelings/actions as 'normal', but even then I bet they'd be really melancholy about the whole 'he's mortal' thing.

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>>54830381
Being the constructed is suffering.

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>>54830443
>Necromancer golems are surprisingly common.
>The most common cause of golem Necromancers is the persistent desire to preserve their creator's life.

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>>54830573
>Necromancer golems
Awesome, but I don't see it ending well.

>>54830642
Necromancy never ends well, to be fair.

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>>54830664
Buddy, you don't even know.

>>54828651
Kinda like the Asari in Mass Effect. A race of diplomats that can interbreed with any species, they look at purebreds with disgust.

>>54804543
Clearly humans are allied with mimics. Why else would we keep making things that look like them?

The spider people are amicable with most humanoids. They prefer food with an exoskeleton and really help with the giant wasp problem.

The bat people, after a vampire scare that is best forgotten for the sake of everyone, carve out a niche acquiring the blood drained from slaughtered livestock. They tend to work as undertakers.

>>54831237
That's mainly because the purebreeds sometimes turn into vampires.

>>54831513
Ardat something something were more of the 10 tenth line hilly-billys. The asari frowned upon pure breeding entirely when they became self proclaimed galactic diplomats, the mind manipulating sluts.

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Duck people

>>54831513
That mainly cause the Matriarchs are playing the long game, eventually assuming nothing kills them, they'll probably be the only race in the universe, every pairing makes more asari after all.

>>54804543
Unicorns maybe, I remember in the Witcher they actually hated the elves funnily enough

>>54830162
Agreed

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>>54805728
the fae cannot be trusted.

>>54833327
Arent pixies fae?

>>54804543
Werewolves. As people in my setting learned, they keep a slimmer of their humanity in them that leaves them malleable. Humans eventually observed some would approach their old homes, and if cared for, can become powerful friends.

Centaurs and Lizardmen are pretty chill too, as long as humans aren't messing with them.

>>54828996
>Basement dwelling women
>Spiders
I'm sensing a pattern here

>>54825674
Man, after tongue of serpents I just stopped reading what happened.

What's been going on?

>>54817648
Exile/Avernum

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I always liked the blood tax system some universe vampires set up with humans under their rule, Warhammer I think? Though this isn't a mutually beneficial relationship so much as one group protecting their cattle, I guess

>>54834101
What do you think blood banks are, anon?

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Is there any examples of this in real life?

As an American, I know for a fact we have no friends.

And I know of some eternal hatreds (French and English, Japan and Korea).

But is there any brothers among nations I should know about? Is Finland BFFs with Panama for some strange reason, and I just never heard about it?

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>>54834166
actually Morocco is the united state's best friend and ally

>>54834234
this is only half of a joke btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco%E2%80%93United_States_relations

>>54834185
Enough vitriol for every chemistry department in the world.

>>54834101
Why is the guy in the trenchcoat wearing Mandalorian armor?

>>54834166
America and Canada
America and The UK
America and Israel (sorry)
America and Japan

>>54835048
>America and Israel (sorry)
Friendship implies that they like you back. Israel is more like an abusive marriage.

>>54835048
>America and Canada
>Liking each other
Canada is defined by how much they hate the US and consider themselves superior and different to it.

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>>54804543
>what are some races that would serve as an interesting long term ally for humans rather then the standard Dwarf, Elf combo?
M E R M A I D S

They're perfect allies for humans in coastal areas. They live near eachother, but their domains are radically different enough to not cause competition. They can both trade resources the other has no other means of accessing (mermaids offer humans such things as pearls, caviar, mutant-like deep sea fish and humans offer mermaids such things as bronzeworking, meat and grain). They can even mutually assist one another in war (imagine human trade ships being escorted by a guard of mermen, or a human navy supported by mermen saboteurs who drill/poke holes into enemy ships, at the very least forcing the enemy to divide their attention).

>>54835133
Canadians are passive-agressive to everyone. They can't even stand themselves.

>>54835153
Because they are hateful and nobody's friend.

>>54835142
Horny sailors would ruin the relationship.

>>54835133
Yeah, maybe Quabec. The arrogant French genes are probably acting up.

>>54835209
You should listen to the PM sometime.

>>54835187
Not ruin - improve. At sea prostitution is a lucrative business!

>>54835273
>Prostitution
Vile.

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>>54835209
>Yeah, maybe Quabec
1. *QuEbec
2. Quebecois are by far the most Americanophile and least passive-agressive towards their Southern neighbors.

But you're also once again proving that Canadians can't even stand themselves, they're spiteful to everyone.

>>54835304
>Vile
Seeing as it's the second oldest profession after farming, I feel like your modern sensibilities are getting in the way of friendship. Or is this some "morals" shittery?

>>54835380
>Morals are shittery now
Vile.

>>54835370
I thought the French hated Americans.

>>54835398
There are no French in Canada

>>54835404
You know what I meant.

>>54835370
Maine here. What in the FUCK are you talking about? Some of the most bitter anti-American resentment I ever heard came from Quebecois. In summers you get Acadians coming down here and trying to lecture people here how to properly say "bideydos." (potatoes)

>>54835392
If someone like you and wants to fuck you, what do morals have to do with anything? So long as they're sapient and not currently in a relationship with someone else, it's all good! And if they want to sell themselves, well at the very least they are earning money for themselves and making someone who normally wouldn't be getting any happy.

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>>54835413
>Some of the most bitter anti-American resentment I ever heard came from Quebecois
>In summers you get Acadians
Stop

>>54835463
>Like you
>Wants to fuck you
It's a prostitute. It wants money. They're defiling themselves for cash.

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>>54804543

Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet. Dragons are the best potential companions.

>>54828072
Every foe in that game had more depth than you'd usually expect.
Wolves legit hunting in packs, staying back until they had a sizable group or you were distracted.
Griffons dive-bombing the group
Drakes getting right up in your shit, Wyverns sticking to the sky and spamming their knockback breath, Wyrms dropping Kill-spells on the mage WHILE THE MAGE IS BUSY CASTING.
It's great.

>>54828758
'WARE THE HARPY'S SONG!

>>54835209
>>54835370
>>54835413
Quebecois are also some of the worst fucking drivers, apparently.
>t. An upstate New Yorker who's had a few too many near-collisions because in Quebec, you're apparently supposed to drive like an asshole, and turn signals are an option on your cars that nobody fucking takes.

>>54835516
>They're defiling themselves for cash.
Ah so you're going by the whole sex = unclean/evil line of thought.
I mean sure you want to take precautions against STIs and unwanted pregnancy but otherwise why the fuck does it matter?

>>54835521

>>54808902
>>54823108
>>54825674

>>54835392
Calling something moral doesn't automatically make it right. Communists tried it and we all know how that went.

>>54835689
No, actually. Just prostitution.

>>54835751
Why though?
If you don't think sex is inherently evil than what is the big difference between a sex worker and a manual laborer. Both are effectively renting the use of their bodies for cash.

Genuinely curious how you think here.

>>54835704

Not defending communism but its hard to verify if it would work or not when half of the world is boycotting it, geopolitics is biased and countries would likely shun ideologies that go aginst them.

NK's system is not the proof that it works or not, only that system will pressure it to be more like them (democratic and captalist) and will sanction the fuck outta them.

>>54835776
Debasing yourself and selling your body for cash is disgusting, as is having sex with tons of random strangers you don't even know. It's vile.

>>54835790
North Korea isn't the only example, it just survived longer than the rest.

>>54835804
It is also fun and profitable.

>>54835804
So you're just personally squicked by the idea, alrighty then still don't see an objective argument but I can accept that you have your opinions and feelings.

>>54835790
>>54835864
Given that both China and the Soviet Union were communist at the same time, as well as Indochina and select regimes in Africa and Latin America, I think it's safe to say that at the height of communism roughly as many people lived under communist rule as under capitalist rule.

They were never (other than today) in an "us vs everybody else" situation. That's Revolutionary France, based on classical liberalism. You know, the system that took Europe by storm some decades later? So much for the "you're not getting a fair chance if everyone boycotts and shuns you" argument.

>>54835877
>Fun
Not from what I've heard.

>>54835892
Don't want to be too /pol/ or /sci/ here, but there are some pretty good indications that promiscuous sex (especially involving rocky relationships and rejection) can pretty quickly wear down a person's capacity to be loyal to future partners. Partner loyalty and monogamous relationships leading to nuclear families of two parents and one or more children tend to produce offspring with the lowest rates of criminal or otherwise abnormal behavior.

>>54835864
Well my point was there is a different between function and boycott.
>>54835897
The soviets fucked the country and had to rebuild in isolation after WW2 was over, China and the USSR weren't exactly the best of friends, communist countries declared war on each other, it would be like UK and France fighting yet again,even after the times of the EU and .

For an example, North Korea has sanctions up the ass, not saying they are the cause, but part of a cycle that feeds itself, I grew in a commie contry,I don't like it, but Its not because captalism is some magic system free of flaws, its because geopolitcs. Anyway, lets not keep talking about it since its off topic.

>>54836015
>communist countries declared war on each other
Genuinely curious: when did that happen? Can you name some examples?

>>54836049

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_1979%E2%80%9390

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict
DIdn't escalate to fullwar, but people got killed.

China and USSR had a commie cold war among each other, it was a struggle to see if China or the USSR would be topdog, a reason why China didn't join the USSR was because some say it would be China in all but name, either way, the folks of NATO didn't had as much internal mandrama.

>>54836049
There's also the KHmer Rouge,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian%E2%80%93Vietnamese_War

> Then, in May 1975, the newly formed Democratic Kampuchea, dominated by the Khmer Rouge, began attacking Vietnam, beginning with an attack on the Vietnamese island of Phú Quốc.

> By the end of 1978, Vietnamese leaders decided to remove the Khmer Rouge-dominated regime of Democratic Kampuchea, perceiving it as being pro-Chinese and too hostile towards Vietnam. On 25 December 1978, 150,000 Vietnamese troops invaded Democratic Kampuchea and overran the Kampuchean Revolutionary Army in just two weeks. On 8 January 1979, the pro-Vietnamese People's Republic of Kampuchea (PRK) was established in Phnom Penh, marking the beginning of a ten-year Vietnamese occupation.

Despite it's name, Democratic Kampuchea was totalitarian Maoist.

The thing about "communist revolution" is they imagine all of the world coming together to share in the single Enlightened Advanced Cultured, casting down the old ones that are less perfect.

However, exactly which cultural interpretation of The Revolution is supposed to become humanity's default culture to ascend to enlightenment with changes depending on if the "workers paradise" is Hispanic, Chinese, Slavic or African.

So instead of coming together and just being communists, they all vye to be the top dog among communists and make the others fall in line to their vision.

Because communism is inherently a form of fascism by way of doctrine and whom writes and enforces said doctrine. A form of cultural supremacy and imperialism intended on eliminating competition, excommunicating competing governments that won't bow down to be subserviant.

That said, I always imagine magical animals entering into pacts with humanity. Villages holding policies not to kill the magical deer or rabbits. Which because of natural selection would eventually mean more of those animals become magical by default. So you'd have villages where it's a bit like a Disney Princess situation, with sapient friendly birds and wolves

>>54835133
Sounds like western europe to me.

>>54835776
Sex isn't the same as picking up a shovel. It is something intimate, something of love, treating it as a commodity or indulging too often is just decadent and erodes the meaning of the act.

>>54836135
>>54836182
Alright, thanks!

>>54835877
So are drugs.

>>54824672
This
and
>>54824692
This

>>54836212
>is inherently a form of fascism
Except it isn't because fascism blatantly rejects communism, marxism, and liberalism.

>>54836491
They're both the same kind of totalitarian political control.

Also, communism doesn't give a fat fuck about liberalism.

>>54834166
>>54834166
>America has no friends
You shut your whore mouth. France has been nothing but bro-tier since the Revolution.

>>54836593
The French people absolutely despise America and Americans as much as is humanly possible. They only helped America gain independence to spite Britain.

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>>54804543
>I was trying to figure out a way to work harpies in as a somewhat normal ally for the humans
Harpies are unisex and require humans to reproduce. Elf and dorf DNA are compatible, but the elves are all too angsty over thier different lifespans and value long-term relationships far more. Dorfs are too prudish and consider relations with birb people to be degenerate. Humans hit that sweet spot with their *ahem* "open-mindedness" and comprable lifespans.

Of course that's a bit too magical realm for some. And yes, I have been watching Monster Musume. Papi is best monster girl

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>>54836607
>The French people absolutely despise America and Americans as much as is humanly possible.
Nice projection there. If anything the Americans hate the French since 2003 (if not earlier).

>They only helped America gain independence to spite Britain.
Much like the Americans only decided to get involved in Europe in 1944 because they were more than eager to see Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union ruin eachother? It's almost as if politics is based on pragmatism or something, yet that doesn't stop Americans from demanding to be treated like royalty in Europe.

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>>54836738
>The Pakis and Turkroaches hate us
Feels good man.

>>54836790
>>54836738
Turkey is truly our greatest 'ally'.

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>>54836738
>Vietnam
>76% favorable

>>54836829

Look at England and France, or Denmark and Sweden.
Old enemies makes for the best allies.

>>54836924
But tons of people we burned with napalm and all those babies we mutated with agent orange are still alive, and you're still liable to get blown up by a mine or something if you wander on the wrong spot.

>>54836135
I remember a colonel I knew telling a story about that incident. Supposedly, when the Chinese crossed the border and murdered Soviet border guards, the commanding officer of the nearby military base tried to contact his superiors to report it and receive orders, but they would not answer. Phones were not picked up, radio was silent. They knew what was happening, of course, and they did not want to be responsible for anything that happens.
So the commander is the highest authority there is. He already has a few guys under his command murdered. And he hears the vehicle engines working over the river on the Chinese land, a lot of them. They are obviously concentrating forces near the border. He has to decide what to do, and anything that happens would be later blamed on him. Chinese can very well use any retaliations as a cause to start a war. Or they might start a war as it is.
So the man ordered his people to bombard the Chinese forces. They do. Chinese go quiet, engines die out, not a sign of an incoming attack. The commanding officer is now able to successfully contact his superiors and reports to them what happened.
If Chinese demand any retribution, all the responsibility would be shifted on him, he will be judged and likely sentenced to death. He knows it.
Chinese never bring the subject up.

>>54805170
I now wanna knit a sweater for a harpy

>>54804543
>In a fantasy setting, what are some races that would serve as an interesting long term ally for humans rather then the standard Dwarf, Elf combo?
any race that isn't too far below us in intelligence and can breed with humans

>>54836515
>They're both the same kind of totalitarian political control.
No they are not as fascism is authoritarian but not necessarily totalitarian.

Also a base tenant of communism is that everyone is equal, an expressly liberal idea.

>>54837549
>Also a base tenant of communism is that everyone is equal
But some are more equal than others, da?

>>54837500
Intelligence isn't the only factor. The Chinese are intelligent but nobody wants to live in China.

>>54836829
I guess the occasional raid and razing is better than communism. And US "warcrimes" during may have been exaggerated.

>>54836964
>people
They were either VC or NVA, no one likes them.
Can't say much about A-orange other than I wish we dropped it further north.
And the landmine thing is pretty standard.

>>54837588
Theory and practice friend, I never said it was a good ideology.

>>54837588
If everyone was equal, they wouldn't need to say "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

>>54837709
And I need more because I'm in charge, comrade.

>>54837683
There's a big difference between not knowing better and just not giving a fuck.

>>54837780
They're not eating sewage, they're feeding it to other people. Again, big difference.

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>>54837757
>eat poison and sell poison made from sewer sludge and shit, somehow its because they just dont give a fuck and not because they aren't smart enough to realize it will kill them

if they wanted to commit suicide, why don't they if they are so smart?

>>54836964

Vietnamese people are pragmatic enough to acceptt that as just being the kind of shit that happens to little countries when superpowers fight.

Also, winning the war probably takes the edge off.

>>54837683
>Taking advantage of China's complete lack of consumer quality practices and peoples desperation for a cheap product to make a mint out of sewage and slop

How is this not an incredibly smart and resourceful act?

>>54837834
A society that poisons each other is not very smart, anon. That's some short sighted bird brain stuff, they obviously get consequences, and are arrested on the regular trying to produce illegal poison juice to distribute to people to eat. It takes an idiot to do that and not expect consequences, either as the vendor who buys it or as the producer.

>>54837963
I don't really get how speaking like a stereotype of another statistically highly intelligent race disproves the fact that the chick from he video is clever.

>>54837941
>Smart members of society sell sewage as food
>Stupid and greedy ones actually eat it and die
>Society becomes less stupid and greedy

What the issue?

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>>54835142
Specifically, dolphin people.

Isn't this thread supposed to be about different species fighting together and monstergirls? Why are there people discussing real politics and flinging faeces at each other?

>>54838236
Dolphins are sadistic rapists.

Humans and Halflings were born of the clay. One wanders and the other keeps the fires of home warm for their friend's return.

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>>54838248
We'll get along swimmingly then.

>>54838269
Anon, I'm not sure if you're aware, but rape is illegal.

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>>54838169
The fact that your government will execute you if you've done enough of it. They've been doing this for a long time, and if everyone is poisoning each others food, then theres literally nothing you can do about it other than stop selling poison yourself. Kant philosophy, basic shit about functioning societies, if you do unto others you can expect it done unto you.

Hey if they are 'smart' enough to accept that all the products everyone else produces is basically shoddy and might kill them, and they like it more power to them, but I doubt that they are farsighted as a whole at all to recognize they are ruining their own society.

You're basically calling criminals smart and pragmatic for finding ways to earn money, its not as if these people get away with it, its just that more and more of them keep doing it and keep getting punished and more sprout up to do it anyway.

Also it wouldn't make them less stupid and greedy, everyone needs to eat and purchase things from each other and if the only way to avoid getting swindled is to produce everything yourself, congratulations society has reached a full collapse, and the Chinese just become self-reliant apocalypse loners.

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>>54838285
Wasn't there this one dolphin in Florida or something that ended up having a sexual relationship with a (human) diving instructor, and died of grief after the two were separated?

>>54838752

Hell if I know, but that sounds like something that could happen in Florida.

>>54838752
It would be Florida.

>>54838814
>>54838830
>>54838752
I can confirm, as a man who hates Florida with every fiber of his being. This happened.

>>54838248
Well, I guess they're a perfect match for the horny sailors then.

Do you think they could pass desease to each other?

>>54804543
I play a female Harpy druid in my current campaign. Back story is that I was raised by a man in the small kingdom we are all from so all the towns people know me and when he died I moved to the woods in live in a tree house.

>>54838752

There is an astonishing amount of confirmed human-dolphin sexual relationships.
But men and women of either race.

Fucking weird, even wild dolphins have had annual meetups with human sexual partners.

Look forward to half-human half-dolphin bastards in the future.

>>54839499
I pray we go extinct before such degenerates reproduce.

>>54839634
Praying for extinction is the most degenerate activity of all.

>>54839499
We've already seen those. They're called mermaids.

>>54839665
Not if it stops zoophiles.

>>54804543
Everyone.

Humanity is the "JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, EVERYBODY CALM THE HELL DOWN" faction.

>>54832109
Never thought a kingdom could be based on a rape economy

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>>54840529
Someone please tell me this nigga ain't serious

Guud thread, thanks for all the content folks

>>54839726
You don't cure AIDS by giving yourself cancer.

>>54840529
Shit, son have you seen the hype alternative fuels are getting in EU lately? Rapeseed oil is in so high a demand it's outracing common crops.

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>>54804810
manthings not know what hit-hit them

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>>54842719
Female skaven, of the less breeding pit variety, are underrated

>>54834166
America and China have been weirdly bro-tier throughout history.

We helped them out in the Boxer Rebellion to keep Europe from doing to China what they did to Africa, China was America's ally and sitting at the Big Boy table in WW1, and helped us out(partially) in WW2.

Never mind that Thomas Jefferson was heavily inspired by a lot of Chinese literature.

History's crazy.

>>54843372
Then there was gommunism

>>54843372
>We helped them out in the Boxer Rebellion to keep Europe from doing to China what they did to Africa
Anon, we were with europe on that one.

>>54834234
Fuck Moo-roo-koo. Eat an all beef patty losers

>>54835209
Why /tg hate Quebecers?

207? What's up with all those Canadians sitting in OOB this year

>>54835413
207

>>54836422
Brah...