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Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

Let's talk about Starfinder and the old Pathfinder classes. Where in Starfinder would you expect to find npcs and people who still use some of the old PF classes? How crazy would it be if Baba Yaga or Nex just popped up right in the middle of Absolam Station and started going high-end magical shenanigans

/pfg/ Link Repository (Pathfinder): https://pastebin.com/JLu5xXML
/sfg/ Link Repository (Starfinder): https://pastebin.com/3GfJKi0y
Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

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I wish blue magi were a Fighter archetype.

>>54804364

Anyway, I think that I'd find them on some weird outback world that hasn't developed yet and is still in its medieval period. Wizards are shit and so either they're VERY easily killable with piss-poor initiative scores while also being able to destroy a lot of stuff or they're just very weak.
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>>54804361
I saw that you apped with a template but it looks like it was nerfed? Your stats wouldn't make sense otherwise. (Also I felt like a shitter apping when someone else already did a vampire template, so I didn't.)
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>>54804503
It was nerfed all the way down to CR+0:
https://pastebin.com/zesx3Fn1
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Hey guys I was checking my pdfs, and I don't have Psionics Augmented: Empath.
Did 2hu never drop this one or did I just miss it?
If I missed it can anyone post a mega or dropbox link?
I checked the troves and they don't have it, or many of the newer DSP, like Malefex.
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People with two first names are douchebags and can't be trusted.
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>>54804603
Yeah, fuck Mary Kate Olsen.
Actually, just fuck both Olsen twins
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>>54804603
Unironically this
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>>54804364
I had this realization today.

Theoretically my character could live to Starfinder's era, and because she's got such an obscenely powerful magic shtick (and stick) she'd likely cause a LOT of shenanigans.

Pic related.
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>>54804603
What if he has seven first names, three titles. two family names and a nickname?
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Why is the SF railgun an automatic rifle?
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>>54804603
John Conner must be eliminated
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>>54804724
>Theoretically my character could live to Starfinder's era

... How?
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>>54804728
It seems to be more like a rapid pulse coilgun.
I'm really hoping for a breech-loading single discharge railgun sniper in some 3pp or new content eventually.
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>>54804728
It's not a railgun.
Video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWeJsaCiGQ0
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>>54804766
Immortality is a hell of a drug
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>>54804766
>he doesn't have a character who could theoretically live to Starfinder's era somehow

what are you, a filthy martial or something?
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How do I GBE?
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>>54804806
That vampire is a cute.
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I appreciate you posting Black Mage.

That is all.
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>>54804785
>>54804728
Reminds me of the fucking dakka AK from Elysium.
Also that's not a gauss gun, that's a coilgun.
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>>54804364
I imagine most of them died. Something happened to the fundamental forces of magic/universe whatever, hence why the Divin/ Arcane/Occult split no longer exists or why everyone suddenly doesn't need Verbal and Somatic components.
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>>54804829
>Also that's not a gauss gun, that's a coilgun.
Those are literally two terms for the same kind of weapon, m8. They're entirely synonymous.
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>>54804806
>>54804766
Ninth level spells, an already long lifespan, and enough magic bullshit that concievably she could just Miracle or Wish her way to say "yes I would like to not die of old age."
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>>54804857
Not correct in the slightest.
Gaussian weapons are a linear series of solid magnets that are coil-optional.
Coilguns are track-run weapons that only run on electromagnetic induction working on the projectile
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>>54804908
Solid magnets wouldn't be able to be used in a weapon.
You need an electromagnet to be able to fire a weapon, since those are toggleable.
And electromagnets are guess fucking what? Coils. Just plain coils you run current through. Magnetic acceleration, in turn, is always achieved through induction - all magnetic weapons fire simple metal slugs, not some kind of passive-state magnets, which means you must employ induction to be able to propel them with magnetism.
Whatever setting you're pulling this from is retarded.
Quoting wiki:
A Coilgun or Gauss rifle is a type of projectile accelerator consisting of one or more coils used as electromagnets in the configuration of a linear motor that accelerate a ferromagnetic or conducting projectile to high velocity.[1] In almost all coilgun configurations, the coils and the gun barrel are arranged on a common axis. It is not a rifle as the barrel is not rifled. The name "Gauss" is in reference to Carl Friedrich Gauss, who formulated mathematical descriptions of the magnetic effect used by magnetic accelerators.
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>>54804966
How do we make the slug spin? I hear that's a good trick.
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>>54804871
>"I wish to not die of old age"
>Meteor immediately crushes you
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>>54804966
Solid magnets are indeed usable in a weapon. The reset mechanic can be mechanically operated, meaning that with a motion similar to cocking, you could reset your solid magnet array to its primed position.
And I'm very aware that electromagnets are coils, dumpass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPiduuwtDSM

I recommend you stop being an ape and making assumptions about what I do and do not know. Gaussian weapons utilize linear solid magnets in-line with the barrel, whereas coilguns have the coils on a plane perpendicular to the track, so that the electromagnetic current running through them will pull the slug forward when switched on.
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What is the best shoot banger in Starfinder? Is it a projectile weapon or a plasma?!
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>>54805069
>What is the best shoot banger in Starfinder? Is it a projectile weapon or a plasma?!
It depends on your level. Instead of +1 bonuses to weapons you just ditch your old gun and get a shootier banger that costs more.
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>>54805065
This is a rare and pointless definition virtually noone besides you uses, good job.
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>>54805148
Goalposts.
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>>54805169
You are literally using a retarded definition that noone other than you uses. What am I even to argue about at that point?
As far as nearly everyone other than you are concerned, gauss guns ARE coil guns.
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What is the Gap that I see people talking about in regards to Starfinder?
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>>54805205
Galaxy-wide amnesia.
Millenia of memories and history were just wiped.
The most popular theory among Pact Worlders according to the CRB is that it was caused by Triune using the Drift for time travel and thus fucking up the timeline.
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>>54805189
But I don't care about the difference between the two. Shouldn't a little creative liberty be allowed in a science-fantasy setting? I understand that people are autistic about how some things may break physics, but holy crap.
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>>54805169
No, honestly, being shown the definitions and then simply changing the definition used; the goalposts were moved by this anon here >>54805065
and not that one >>54805148
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>>54805205
Universal amnesia, like if you woke up tomorrow and all evidence of the past 500 years has disappeared - that said, you still know your friends and job and family, but the details of where you met or how could he gone.
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>>54805225
What? You were the one autistic about "the weapon on the video isn't a gauss gun!"
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>>54805043
>Implying I won't just time stop my way out

Pleb
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>>54805242
No I wasn't, silly.
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>>54805237
>>54805223
This might be the gayest thing I've seen all week. Is this their excuse to not give us any lore?
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>>54805314
>Is this their excuse to not give us any lore?
Yes.
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>>54805314
You bet! The stuff about the Pact Worlds is cool tho.
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>>54805314
Yes. Honestly a lot of things they did are really fucking baffling to the point I'm not sure what the fuck making it "Golarion universe in the future" accomplished.
>retcon all magic into one unified force
>since the planet is gone all of our favorite places and locales no longer exist, nor nations
And for what? So they can have Space people that worship Iomadae? Abadar? It feels like SF would have been better off being a totally new setting?
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>>54805314
Indeed. Paizo sucks at writing, news at 11
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>>54805373
I think it's their way of wiping a blank slate and making so they can make their own lore, not as limited by Pathfinder.
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>>54805373
They wanted the planet not to be available, but wanted to keep all of the names at any cost.

The result got kinda dumb.
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>>54805403
That doesn't make any sense though. Wouldn't keeping them in the same universe constrain lore? Why not just make a new setting entirely instead of obliterating the one you had?
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>>54805443
Making a new setting is haaaaard.
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>>54805443
Easier, attracts Pathfinder players due to mild connections, and it's not like you're going to be limited by setting anyway since it's, yknow, space.
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>>54805416
>Knights of Golarion, an organization for a planet that doesn't exist
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>There are already two Matriarchies in the lore
>All the important gods are women

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>54805529
Put it in your own ass by thinking with portals.
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>>54805529
oh shit wrong thread.
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>>54805528
Don't worry, anon, you can have a bunch of patriarchies in your game that you'll make for /pgg/
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>>54805529
Put it in me! In me!
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So, what's happening with intrigue game?
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>>54805583
It's a boozle, Jim.
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>>54805590
Why do you say that? The GM is active still.
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>>54805583
It's happening. Picks should be announced in a few days.
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>>54805628
Any review anon doing reviewing?
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>>54805556
You say that, but you'd be surprised how well it applies here too
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>>54805556
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>>54805660
I did reviewing in the thread a week or so ago.
I also did a lot of PM reviewing for people who requested it, probably half a dozen apps that way.
I'd like a review of mine though. ;~;
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>>54805689
What's your take on DHB's app?
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>>54805714
>13 children
That was too much of a meme for me to pay attention to the rest.
I could look through it more attentively if he asked, but I haven't so far.
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I want a kitchen sink but I'm not sure I want to use Golarion. How is Mystara? Or, are there any other ones that I'm missing out on?
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Why hasn't /pfg/ ever tried to craft a setting of their own?

Who would we even trust to lead such a project?
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What's a good amount of gold to invest into an adventure company?
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>>54805786
Because every time /tg/ tries to craft a setting as a collaborative project furries and assholes get too much influence and the whole thing degenerates into fetishposting.
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>>54805786
>Who would we even trust to lead such a project?
In DHB we trust.
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>>54805791
Depends on what sort of adventures you intend for them to go on.
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>>54805795
Furry mafia strikes again!
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>>54805791
Look up "Dungeonomics" and check out DTG's guide to Downtime in the pastebin.
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>>54805814
Archaeology in force.
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>>54805583
2 days till apps close
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>>54805863
Tekeli-li!
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So I really, really like the idea of Eldritch Poisoner, but between action economy and the fact it specifically denies you adding discoveries to the arcanopoison I only feel sadness in looking at it. What houserules would it take for the archetype to not be irredeemable shit? Would the following actually help it?

>Swift Alchemy reduces the creation and application of the poison to a single move action, Swift Poisoning reduces it to a single swift action, so long as it's your own weapon
>it CAN apply discoveries that apply to mundane poisons to its Arcanotoxin
>the Nagaji FCB for +1/3rd to created poison DCs is available to any Alchemist with the archetype, regardless of race
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>>54805795
Miasmapunk was cool
Also, fuck you Bugworld was also good!
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>>54805815
Now I imagine the horse head scene from Godfather with a torn up fur-suit next to the guy and a muffled "nyeh" heard from within a large Tony the Tiger mask.
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Reposting from other thread

...Anonymous
08/10/17(Thu)14:32:00 No.54805884
>>54804091 #
>>54804075 #
>>54804139 #
Roleplay. It's challenging because the GM made it clear that under no circumstances would I be able to avoid the weaknesses of a vampire
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>>54806042
Basically it means you restrict your entire party to only being able to act at night.
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>>54805786
>Who would we even trust to lead such a project?
We need someone who just just unattached enough to be able to veto dumb ideas, avoid making things too fetishistic, and has enough knowledge in geopolitics, history, technoligy, and literature to make a cohesive enough fantasy world that is also consucive to the mechanics of Pathfinder and is able to properly integrate crunch and fluff and the implications therein of it into a setting

Also have them actually have the motivation to make and keep on the bloody thing and not abandoning it once they get bored.

Meaning very few people here on /pgg/ would be able to fulfill those qualities

And that isn't even going into the problem of people having different opinions on what fantasy does and doesn't mean and entail
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>>54806097
So protag?
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>>54806073
>Not dominating mortal thralls to carry your coffin around/getting a hearse
>Or using skeletons cause you're a baller undead necromancer
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>>54806097
I could do it too!
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>>54806118
You still can't leave your coffin during the day and are extremely vulnerable. Night is the only time you're even remotely safe.
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>>54806097
>We need someone who just just unattached enough to be able to veto dumb ideas, avoid making things too fetishistic, and has enough knowledge in geopolitics, history, technoligy, and literature to make a cohesive enough fantasy world that is also consucive to the mechanics of Pathfinder and is able to properly integrate crunch and fluff and the implications therein of it into a setting
DHB fits all of these.
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>>54806118
You'd still be vulnerable to karate.
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>>54806116
>>54806138
Being long-winded doesn't equate to being smart.
We'd need someone who's disconnected from /pfg/ entirely.
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>>54806130
Then why haven't you?

>>54806138
I would normally agree, however I feel he is too much of a public figure and is usually too busy, meaning we'd just end up getting too much unnecessary shit being caused by arguments associated with his celebrity status, and that the whole project will probably be shitposted to death by witch hunter
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>>54806097
So, XS. Wait, you said crunch. She hates crunch. Nevermind.
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>>54806160
So the best way for /pfg/ to make a setting is to not make one at all.

Makes perfect sense.
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>>54806160
>We'd need someone who's disconnected from /pfg/ entirely.
The problem with that though is that it would inevitably defeat the whole point of "making a /pfg//pgg/ setting, at which point it would be better to instead go looking around for other 3pp settings that already exist
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Any neat ways to TPK my party?
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>>54806170
Who the fuck is XS?
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>>54806186
Yes, exactly.
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>>54806197
Dick of many things.
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>>54806197
Rocks fall, everyone dies.
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>>54806131
That's why my original question was "how feasible is it to do so in Hell's Vengeance? Does a majority of the campaign take place outside during the day?"

>>54806153
>m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_JUlXh7sP8
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>>54806197
Tell every player in private that they have a curse that makes them an enemy of party. Then have an NPC say "ONE OF YOU IS THE ENEMY!" before exploding and watch as the party members recreate Salem witch trials.
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>>54806160
>Being long-winded doesn't equate to being smart.
The guy is smart enough to hold down a high paying/high power job.

>We'd need someone who's disconnected from /pfg/ entirely.
Then it isn't a /pfg/ setting.
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>>54806203
/tg/ writefag.
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>>54806197
Put them against a dragon who fights intelligently.

>>54806222
>That's why my original question was "how feasible is it to do so in Hell's Vengeance? Does a majority of the campaign take place outside during the day?"
A lot of the campaign does, yes.
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>>54806168
Because I don't like working alone!
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>>54806254
>The guy is smart enough to hold down a high paying/high power job.
You say this like it's something that requires intelligence.
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>>54806197
Wizard 12/Cleric 8 Goblin
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>>54806286
Ok, what do you equate with intelligence then? Education? Because the guy is educated. Position? Because he has that. Knowledge of the system? He has that. Setting/narrative construction? He has that.

The only thing he falls apart on is social intelligence.
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>>54805583
>>54805590
I promise I will hold at least one session before I bamboozle on you, to maximize the pain
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>>54806427
I promise I will hold at least two sessions before I bamboozle on you, to maximize the pain
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>>54806350
>>54806350
>Ok, what do you equate with intelligence then?
Not posting on 4chan.
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>>54806435
I promise I will hold at least two sessions before I bamboozle on you, to maximize the pain
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>>54806435
>>54806446
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>>54806446
I promise I will hold at least four sessions before I bamboozle on you, to maximize the pain
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>>54806435
I promise to hold at least 17 sessions including a climatic battle against the villain before bamboozling on you, to maximize the pain.
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>>54806459
I promise to hold at least 26 sessions including installing a puppet government in Cheliax before bamboozling on you, to maximize the pain.
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So how long until this gets nerfed into the dirt?
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>>54806459
I promise to hold at least 5 sessions including a TPK and subsequent full character reroll before I bamboozle on you, to maximize the pain.
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>>54806153
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>>54806481
I promise to hold at least 8 sessions including posting ERP logs in the thread before I bamboozle on you, to maximize the pain.
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>>54806471
I promise to hold it all the way to he end, never bamboozling, bust constantly alluding to the possibility, just to make you paranoid, to maximize the pain
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>>54806474
They'll probably limit it to recovering the fire damage you'd taken and only that, in a future FAQ
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>>54806474
What book?
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>>54806504
I promise no such thing, in fact, you will never know whether or not I am going to bamboozle on your or not, even after I've posted ERP logs and the campaign is over, there is STILL the ever present threat of a bamboozle.
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>>54806526
All to maximise the pain, of course.
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>>54806524
New Elemental Masters Handbook. Friend had it at last nights game and I got a chance to flip through it for a quick scan, spotted that and had a wut.
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>>54806546
>App closing date rolls around
>The truth is revealed as all the accepted apps change name to Karvane
>Everyone was Intrigue GM all along
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Meanwhile, Skull and Shackles DM is nowhere to be seen.

BAMBOOZLE
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Are you ready for STARFINDER?
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>>54806590

POST THE FUCKING ROLL20 LINK I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE BOOZLING I NEED AN EXCUSE TO RUN THROUGH CHARGEN AAAAAAA
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>>54806590
No, because you're not running one, Starfinder DM! I bet you'd NEVER run one! Especially not for me!
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>>54806590
Yes! Did you scan the book?
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>wanting to generate a fantasy world
>Donjon won't work
HELP!
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>>54806604
You're right! Why would I run a campaign uuuu?
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>>54806796
Nice try! You're just not good enough for it, I guess!
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I'm not having fun DMing my game because all of my players are sticks in the mud
What do
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>>54806847
Kill them
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>>54806552
Any potential you might be able to share more? I would have thought that if it was out, we'd have gotten leaks to it by now.
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>trying to start game
>discord is having connection issues
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>>54806826
I've got the goods and the gumption, without being garrulous! Great, huh? Too bad you wont be anywhere near it, I know exactly who you are.

>>54806602
Level 5, 11 PB!
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>>54806900

What's the pitch, what's the setting, what's the expectations? Aaaaaah, aaaah, I need mooooore! Any other houserules? Do you have ap ackage to fix Envoy, nerf Operative, or fix Solarian?
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>>54806900
>11 pb
>not 30 pb
>not gestalt
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>>54806900
Oh, that's fine, I guess. Elitism will almost always be present within /pgg/, and people like you will just extend its stay here! I guess I'm glad that I won't be getting in, if it's run by a person such as yourself.
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Intrigue GM, if you're there, are you going to tempt DHB's character into ERP? We already know he's willing to cheat on his wife.
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>>54806866
Not aside from a general disappointment in kineticist options, that the storm summoner archetype for summoners in it is hilarious with the sheer amount of lightning it can throw around, and that the rebuild genie binder prc can nab a level 1-5 eidolon or add on to a summoners existing one.
Kinda surprised that we don't have it here yet.
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>>54807026
How was that Cleric archetype?
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>>54805773
Use 4e's Points of Light setting. Much easier to deal with
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>>54807053
Just breezed past it, couldn't tell you. Sorry.
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>>54806886
It's just slow to load.
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So, this talk of a /pfg/ setting has got me thinking about worldbuilding, specifically about magic. How would one create a setting that properly takes the potency and versatility of magic into account? Would it stay medieval for long, or would that phase of history end quickly? How would the presence of magic alter the geopolitical landscape, military strategy, and the economy? How much sway would casters have in politics and government, and how would they be inevitably organised in the setting?

I know she time ago one anon mentioned Mages Guilds becoming fantasy equivalents to Megacorps, does anyone remember what that was about and if it would be much accurate at all?
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>>54806097
>Protag + DHB + Disk collaborative setting when.
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>>54807121
You have to keep asking questions?

How many people have access to magic?

How much magic has been researched? Doesn't matter if high level spells 'exists' if no one knows how to start them up.

How many people have access to magic?


Don't forget to include a new anthro race, to attract the Forgotten Realms fans
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>>54807121

Depends on the particulars of magic don't it.
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>>54807122
The best would be DHB + Disk + Vult, actually.
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>>54807163
>Disk+Vult
this is an awful combination, why would you do this

And what has Disk done?
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>>54807163
Because they'd murder each other?
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>>54807151

Are anthropomorphic animals all that common in Forgotten Realms?
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>>54807171
>>54807173
Fine, then you suggest a combination!
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>>54807121
My main issue with magic as a power and knowledge is that it's too easily fucked up.

Science happens and can cause major fuck ups, but outside an atomic war or similar thing we're not going to see the sort of dark age backsliding that magic lends itself to so very well, partly also because magic doesn't require the huge infrastructure that science does.

So while yes, you'd frequently get kingdoms and mage guilds gaining great power and making quick strides in magical warfare and utility, they'll just as often poke something they shouldn't or have a horrid problem in their foundations etc that sends it all toppling down like jenga. After that point, the generally secretive and self-motivated attitude of most magic practitioners means that is is absurdly hard to pick up the pieces and go on. Science is knowledge that empowers the masses as it's utilized, you can teach John Q Public about basic science and he can put it right to use to better his life with things like crop rotation, basic medical, water purification or metallurgy etc. Magic empowers the individual and lends itself heavily to pyramid schemes and tyranny.

Even adding gods into it doesn't help, because one god that patrons a kingdom and helps prop it up becomes the single point of failure and is putting all their worship eggs in one basket, easily leading to a failure point or everyone else simply ganging up on them.
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>>54807200
Vult+SEagle
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>>54807190
Not really, but there's only so many variations of Elves you can make before it gets even more annoying

Just make arrow into Batfolk and change the rest from there
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>tfw S&S is a bamboozle
Why even live, anons?
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>>54807264
*Drow into Batfolk
Darn you Apple
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Skull and Bed Shackles reviews when?
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>>54807250
>Thicc chicks getting screwed by monsters
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>>54807289
The third lewd AP in a row turned out to be a bamboggard? Who could have foreseen this?
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>>54807314
Optimist

>>54807289
Pessimist
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>>54807331
I have interests other than monsters you know
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>>54807250
Don't they hate each other though? Vult made a pretty explosive exit from the applications for Dragons2. I think the only game he didn't pitch a bitch-fit about was Overlewd, actually.
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>>54807364
Huh? I wasn't around for Vult's exit, tell me more?
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>>54807333
>Who could have foreseen this?
Not someone who fell for all three.
;_;
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>>54807378
You're just a Thirstlord, anon.
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>>54807378
What did you make?
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>>54807382
Sore wa himitsu desu.
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>>54807289
>>54807314
>>54807337
Which S&S apps would make the best party? Which ones make for the best p/y/rates and b/u/canneers?
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>>54807378
Truly, your innocence knows no bounds. It's actually kinda cute.
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>>54807403
It was a blatant bamboozle following IG and CoCT, I mean look at the GM hours and the first wave of questions as soon as the game was posted to feign mass interest, its fucking obvious that a group of people are colluding to make the game look more legitimate.
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desu senpai I just want the latest batch of Pathfinder games to finish running so we can get some delicious Starfinder up in here.
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>>54807423

But one of the first people who showed interest was IDrive, who has nothing legitimate about him at all!
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>>54807362
What are your interests, Vult?
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>>54807376
Just the usual Vult things. He raised a huge stink about his mary sue not being exactly what he'd planned. And he was angry at SEagle for having banned Avowed.
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>>54807423
Okay sure but I don't really care. /pfg/ games need to stop but I still like character discussion.

>>54807436
I will accept a game of Dead Suns though. Hopefully not lewd.
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>>54807403
I just wanted to breed the shark.
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>>54807464
>not lewd
Never ever, famalam~
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>>54807464
>Hopefully not lewd.

Oh come on, let's be reasonable here.

90% of applications that actually get into these "lewd" campaigns aren't explicitly slutty.
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How do I ask for this in Starfinder?
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On the subject of S&S...
currently recruiting games are:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83277/the-fiends-and-intrigues-of-house-karvane (ends in one day)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/85043/bones-and-bed-shackles (ends in one week...if it is real)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/85418/mint-rebels-double-treason (ends in one week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84677/godslayers (ends in one month and a half)
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>>54807502

You never do, anon.

Seriously, though, isn't he the textbook definition of "operative"? Slap him with a load of unpaid augments, and you've got the base character.
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>>54807443
Surprisingly vanilla actually, in the core of things. Cute, spunky girls mostly, as could have been seen from my app history. Yuri, femdom, traps, sex addiction, and so on. I just do also like monsters and monster girls, and non-con.

>>54807451
>And he was angry at SEagle for having banned Avowed.
Who started this meme and why does it still exist.

I was angry I was accused of min-maxing when I literally was not capable of intentionally min-maxing due to system inexperience.
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>>54807555
I meant nonsexual interests, as they were talking about worldbuilding. Good to know, though.
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>>54807513
Thanks for including Godslayers in the list now!
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Anyone have a copy of the Starfinder Character Folio pdf they could send off? I have the day off, so I can clean it for future use.
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I've seen augments described like magic items over on the paizo forums and now im scared i cant have my adam jensen replacement limbs at character creation, is this the case? Is there a limitation on simple replacement limbs, and do they have mechanical effects?
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>>54807580
Could have sworn I've taken that one out of the list. O well, nothing to do now.
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>>54807578
Worldbuilding interests?

I've posted several settings in here that have gotten a fizzle of attention. The issue is I don't have the ability to DM 3 games a week.

Though I'd certainly like to pass the torch on Space Station Roanapur, home of the VR recreations of the old Gods that are wreaking havoc
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Rate the party, /pgg/

>Changeling Sorcerer (Starsoul). The face of the party and daughter of a retired explorer. Her mother is a winter hag that's raising an army to become snow queen (she doesn't know this)
>Human Inquisitor of Pharasma. Her country's being taken over by Deep One cults. She's not fond of aberrations
>Dhampir Ranger. He hates vampires. He likes puppies.
>Tiefling Bloodrager. She came from the wilds to kick ass and slay dragons. Her mom is an elven Druid and she's very proud
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I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. SOMEBODY MAKE A GODDAMN STARFINDER CAMPAIGN FOR THE GENERAL OR I'M GOING TO LOSE IT.
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>>54807555
>why does it still exist
Because you feel the need to whine about anything that EVER mentions you. If you let shit lie, this shit wouldn't fucking happen, but your goddamn victim complex keeps it going.
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>>54807680
But we can't even make rogue squadrons yet.
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>>54806499
I now have a theme for my vampire character
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>>54807626
You're fine, you start with 1000cr and standard prosthetic limb cost 100cr
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>>54807672
Butt/ass
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>>54807626
Hey, anon.

I love you.
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>>54807680
>Being this desperate to get into a campaign with random people you probably won't even like in a system that just came out
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>>54807680

Don't worry anon, I'm saving up to get the book and starting game.
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How do I get more undead under my control as a necromancy wizard? Only paizo published books pls
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>>54807691
.... Normally I have great disdain for anyone making vampires - years of having to deal with idiots who've watched too much buffy or vampire diaries (and those are the better ones; it's all downhill past that) have left me thinking pic-related.

But you.
YOU, my friend.

... I'll wanna hear that one's stories.
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>>54807733
But I love everyone here?
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>>54807767
Actually, nevermind. I will personally run a game for you and your friends.
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>>54807730
>>54807698
Bless u my dudes
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>>54807775
Oh gosh, thank you thank you!
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>>54807767
No, you love the idea of what people on /pgg/ could be. You love the idea of RP oriented players who are all about lewds and/or inter-party relations, but in reality most here are pathetic self-doubting wieners who have never felt the kiss of a man or a woman aside from their parents. They are broken people who are naught but shells shaped like human filled with anguish and thirst.
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>>54807767
You shouldn't make such statements so lightly
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>>54807802
But... I play with you people, I already know these things.
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What is really the maximum values for soulknives anyways?

+9 from levels, +3 from focus items, +1 from the blade skill... But isn't the maximum on an item +5 with +5 worth of abilities?
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>>54807680

There's a Starfinder one-shot here.

http://discord.gg/YAk263j

https://app.roll20.net/join/2470196/97jKWg
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>>54807751
A vampire that has low charisma (not Charisma) that thinks he's a suave master of darkness but is actually a complete fucking dork.

"Look deeply into my eyes... But not like in a gay way, bro. I'm seducing you so I can suck your neck. Ok, not like that way. You get what I'm saying right?"
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>>54807820
Then you know that over this rainbow is nothing but cardiac arrests and fat jokes.
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>>54807733
>>54807775
Stop impersonating other GM's and giving people false hope, dummy
Starfinder is a shit system
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>>54807836
"Look, all I'm saying is, since we're supposed to oil ourselves up so we can fit these leather pants on, we'd look like idiots if we didn't do the top as well. There's nothing gay about it, you just can't reach around your whole back on your own and we need to dress appropriately to pick up hot... women... at the bar!"
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>>54807878
Is this also to maximize the pain?
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>>54807878
All systems are shit. This does not prevent many of them from being fun.

Autists and assholes, now those cause unfun games.
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Some of you anons are alright

Don't go to S&S tomorrow
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>>54807878
Stop impersonating other GM's and giving people false lack of hope, dummy
Pathfinder is a shit system
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>>54807878
I won't defend Starfinder, but you do realize that you're running Pathfinder right?
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>>54807878
And while I'm at it, so is Pathfinder. I really only come here for ERP.
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I like to pick my nose until it bleeds, just to maximize the pain.
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>>54807946
Stop impersonating other GM's and giving people false lack of hope, dummy
ERP is a shit system
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>>54807946
I also think 2hu and Vult are fine people you should respect because they at least put effort into this system while you all whine like the manchildren you are about the system not letting you be exactly what you want to be.
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>>54807946
>>54807931
>>54807878
>>54807987
>>54807982
Are there any other Intrigue DMs I need to know about?
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>"space" setting where ton of gear should be a thing
>not much gear same or customization
>its still all tie to levels like its some kind of fucking feat
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>>54807998
Meow.
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>>54807987
Now you're just being blatant.
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>>54807987
I want to hugg 2hu, just to maximize the pain.
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>>54807987
This is weak and, frankly, just sad.
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>>54808027
Always an option to port in some Dragonstar (3.0 Space Fantasy Setting) tech, it's what I'll be doing.
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>>54808063
This is weak and, frankly, just sad.
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>>54808080
just like this meme, then.
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>>54808080
This is frank and, weakly, just sad.
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>>54808097
Is this even a meme more so than being just a random "Hey, this looks fun" gaytrain?
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>>54808107
This is sad and, weakly, just Frank.
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>>54808121
But he's covered wars, you know.
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>>54808120
This is fun and, frankly just gaytrain.
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I just want to play a Soldier ;~;
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As unfunny as this is, keep in mind this is all the fault of Karvane for using the tag when it's not needed, and shitposting about the game constantly.

"shilling" and being annoying about your own game pushed away more people than it encouraged to play.
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>>54808147
I just want to play an Operative ;~;
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>>54808167
I want to play an Envoy ;~;
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>>54808167
I just want to play a Mechanic ;~;
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>>54808160
I promise to shill even harder before I bamboozle, to maximize the pain.
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>>54808160
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
cool beans bruh.
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>>54808179
I just want to play a Vesk ;~;
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Aaaaaa to be in an unrequited love!
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>>54807987
This is actually true?
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>>54808195
hot potatos bruh
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>>54808179
I just want to play a shuttlecraft
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>>54808219
Actually, could you mix the PF AI 'template' and play as an analyst AI of a CR equivalent to your Level and just... Be the ship?
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>>54808246
You want four men inside you?
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>>54808260
No, i just like the thought of having REALLY big guns.
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>>54808260
Yes. Yes, I do.
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>>54804364
Player wants to be a warrior with an axe and have as much DPS as possible. What's the best class?

I'm mainly looking at barbarian or fighter but I'm welcome to others, so long as you can describe it as a "warrior" guy. Player wants to be a sort of viking... knight... thing.
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>>54808260
All the time.
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>>54808293
3pp?
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>>54808206
I just want to play a Space Hellknight ;~;
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>>54808293
Fighter (Viking) is a good one!
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>>54808292
>>54808302
You should look at the available ships! Do you want your first to be upgraded with luxury rooms?
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>>54808305
Sorry, should have specified no third party
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>>54808332
Fighter (Viking,) Barbarian (Armored Hulk,) and Slayer would be great!
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>>54806197
Reschedule the game and then try to reschedule the reschedule. Kills the game off every time.
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>>54804364
Mystic and Technomancer are so weak that it's hard to imagine anyone being one if the old classes still existed.
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>>54806474
Why would they nerf something that's already shit?
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I need space man art.
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>>54808395
Then it's a good thing the old classes aren't around, isn't it?
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Can someone upload the Ruins of Azlant Player's Guide? Paizo's website is acting weird for me.
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>>54808293
Literally just a Barbarian with Power Attack and Furious Focus and maybe weapon focus in a greataxe
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>>54808432
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>>54808432
You should try the character art threads. They usually have character art.
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>>54808432
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>>54808395
>Starfinder explicitly doesn't have casting about 6th-level in order to contain power levels
>WAHHHHH THESE CLASSES ARE SHIT COMPARED TO THE ONES FROM A DIFFERENT GAME THEY'RE TRYING TO NOT REPLICATE
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>>54807502
Probably don't until we're a few splatbooks in. The augmentations in the CRB are pretty weaksauce.
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Quick! I need a cute bard picture!
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>>54808573
They're horse shit compared to other 6 level casters.
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>>54808614
When you're the only ones available that makes you the best by default
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>>54808614
Different anon, the bottom line still fucking applies you dunce.
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>>54808607
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>>54808607
Quick! To the character art thread!
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>>54808408
Because you can just try to set yourself on fire, pass your save or take the 1 round of fire damage before putting yourself out, and gain fast healing based on your level.
Forever.

Every time there has been some way to heal without defaulting to resources or cure wands, it gets smashed into the dirt.
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>>54808607

Could you perhaps be more specific?
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>>54808649
Human female, works for the duke composing him tales via music, because he's 11.
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>>54808637
>Every time there has been some way to heal without defaulting to resources or cure wands, it gets smashed into the dirt.
Boots of the Earth works fine last I checked.
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>>54808678
Fuck, I forgot to take off the nametag.
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>>54808624
Then they're just horseshit.
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>>54808705
When you're the only ones available that makes you the worst by default
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>>54806350
>falls apart on is social intelligence.

Because he is stupidly optimistic about others, because he is on pfg, or is there some spegetti incident I havent heard of? Hes a good communicator and seems to have a relatively good social life from what ive gathered.
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>>54808607
I gotchu bruh
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>>54807827
>What is really the maximum values for soulknives anyways?

>+9 from levels, +3 from focus items, +1 from the blade skill... But isn't the maximum on an item +5 with +5 worth of abilities?

Yes, an item can have no more than +10 worth of bonuses (this doesn't preclude a +4 weapon with +6 in bonuses, or +3/+7. The limit is the enhancement bonus itself can't go higher than +5, and the total of *effective* enhancement bonuses can't go over +10). Mind blades are not immune to this. If they were or could be, there would be a rule somewhere, and there isn't.
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>>54808753
So, what do you do with those focus items, or those blade skills that increase the enhancement bonus? There's one that does limit to +5, but there's also one in augmented blade that does not have that restriction.

or for that matter; non-soulknives, what happens with a +10 weapon where one of the abilities is Bane when you're facing the bane target?
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>>54808750
Kawaii!
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>>54808753
>Yes, an item can have no more than +10 worth of bonuses (this doesn't preclude a +4 weapon with +6 in bonuses, or +3/+7. The limit is the enhancement bonus itself can't go higher than +5, and the total of *effective* enhancement bonuses can't go over +10). Mind blades are not immune to this. If they were or could be, there would be a rule somewhere, and there isn't.
A mindblade isn't a weapon - it merely acts like one.
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>>54808897
Back the fuck up unless your kouhai ass wants to be sent to the shadow realm!
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>>54808208
Duo app. Join a LWC. PM Them.
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Mein leben!
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>Want to run a one-shot or a two/three-shot
>Can't think of a plot other than "Here's a reason to go to the dungeon, now go to the dungeon"
Is this writer's block or am I being stupid?
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>>54809077
Dungeons are shit, though. Even if you want a oneshot, you should always try to make something other than a dungeon the focus.
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>>54808982
Do it, you fucking baka!
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>>54809077
That's a perfectly reasonable reason
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>>54809077

Maybe you're racing to deliver a vitally important message, or racing to intercept one? Maybe you're performing a lightning raid on a hostile nation to capture a member of the royal family? Maybe an evil goblin sorcerer kidnapped the chief god's daughter, and you must WISE FWOM YOUR GWAVE to stop him?
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>>54809077
>am I being stupid?
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Gather ‘round /pfg/ it’s time for a tale from the Flower Court, and the six saps duped into endowing it with a soul. I bring a tale of heroism, tyranny, and a bunch of random jackasses screaming BE LESS EVIL at the top of their lungs! Virtues have mercy.

Session 5 – In Which Our Heroes Finally Ensoul Something
>The party travels deeper into the mines, until they enter a large cavern.
>The scent of fear and unwashed bodies is overwhelming, as two exhausted dwarves approach
>Harnod and Thorfall, the current leaders of what remains of the dwarves
>Sibyl expends the last of her power to heal a nasty wound Harnod had received.
>The situation is bad, but not dire. The dwarves have barricaded themselves well, and have enough supplies to last for three more days.
>With nothing pressing to get to, the party beds down for the night, with the exceptions of Illaria and Derrin, who spend time distributing food, water, alcohol, blankets, chocolate, good cheer, and everything else they have to the battered and terrified dwarves.
>The night passes uneventfully, and the party sleeps like deadmen.
>In the morning, they reconvene with the dwarven leadership. The group has a plan to escape via a tunnel, but will run out of supplies before completing it.
>The only supplies other supplies the Kobolds haven’t gotten to, were stolen by the mayor and some of the elite militia members; who are holed up in a mansion deeper in the mine.
>Elsewhere, Kyder awakes.
>The party convenes to discuss possible options, and concludes to interrogate their prisoner before deciding on a course of action.
>Thus, the interrogation begins. With Sibyl and Rae acting as the good cops, complemented by an all-too-eager Derrin and Ichabod.
>Kyder is still a chieftain of his people, even in defeat. He’s unmoved by threats, or offers of mercy; that is until the fate of the remaining Kobolds is brought up.
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>>54809196
>The dragon is hardly their master, instead it’s a powerful vampire that overtook them and seduced Kyder’s second in-command with promises of immortality.
>In the moment, he felt it better to serve than to be destroyed; a stance he’s reconsidering, after it’s become clear the party can slaughter what remains of his clan without breaking a sweat.
>Tensions run high as the party weighs justice, revenge, mercy, and pragmatism against each other.
>Finally, the deal is struck, the party releases Kyder to deal with his second, if successful the kobolds will completely withdraw from the city.
>They return Kyder’s weapons, give him what healing they can, and escort him to the exit.
>Thus begins the waiting.
>Despite the best efforts of a few, the mood remains dour and downbeat.
>Three hours pass, before Kyder returns, bloodied by triumphant. The Kobolds have begun to retreat to their home in the south. As thanks for their assistance, he gives the party the location of their cave; to keep Lote from coming into conflict with the Kobolds again.
>The party returns to the dwarves and announces the good news. Harnod is bitter they hadn’t sought to punish Kyder for his role in the attack, but is relieved to have the city back.
>However, there’s still the question of the mayor.
>It takes little time for our heroes to arrive at the stone bunker; upon hearing that the siege has been lifted, the militia throw open the gates.
>The mayor huffs down the stairs, demanding to know why the gates have been opened, and is confronted by a very angry Derrin.
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>>54809210
>1 Minute of shouting later, the cowardly mayor is crying and pissing himself, while the militia and the party are carrying supplies back to the starving civilians.
>Illaria attempts to get a rager going with the liquor they liberated from the mayor, but everyone seems too drained from the week’s events to party.
>Dawn breaks, revealing a town scorched to ash by a furious dragon. All the more reason to leave.
>Thanks to Sibyl’s magics, the supplies they have should provide more than sufficient to get them back to Lote.
>Along the way, the part follows Dame Sarse’s advice, and flags down a Kanesian patrol; handing over the papers and a foxpelt.
>The rest of the trip passes without incident, and the party arrives in the capitol of Lote, hailed as heroes!
>The Princess summons them to court immediately upon their return.
>The dwarves are granted a plot of land, and whatever supplies they need to resettle
>Derrin gives an abridged recap of the adventures, taking care to highlight everyone’s achievements.
>This speech goes over far better than her first one, and the Princess grants the victorious heroes her blessing!

LEVEL UP

END OF ARC ONE
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>>54809196
>>54809210
>>54809225

Thanks for sharing. Hope everyone had fun!
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>>54809225
>PF party resolves large scale dispute with non-skill diplomacy in which they make concessions and give back fairly claimed loot.

I dont believe it. The rumors about protag rage quitting session one must be true, this is obviously a coverup.
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>>54809352
The rumors are true. I killed and consumed protag, and have been fabricating greentext ever since.
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>>54809412
Did you just consume his flesh, or did you also consume his soul?
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>>54808982
Isn't she cheating by having size copies of that card in her deck...?

>>54809077
No, that tends to be the easiest format to do a one-shot.

>>54809115
Why don't you like dungeons, Anon? What did they do to you?
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>>54808753
I think that stuff is one of those situations where DSP didn't realize that Paizo made a small hidden change born of pure retardation. At the very least, a Brutality Blade can explicitly break the cap. I mean look at shit like Metaphysical Weapon, you can trivially get it to give more than a +5 bonus, which was clearly DSP's intent despite Paizo being dumber than a sack of bricks.
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>>54809484
So with that change, many soulknife abilities become nothing more than multiclassing compensators?
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Who's the villain of my Starfinder one-shot?
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>>54809530

Albert Wyatt Mann, also known as A. Wyatt Mann.
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>>54809530
The duality of man.
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>>54809530
space-dragon.
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I'm a bit slow so help me out here: What's WRONG with the exocortex? I can't quite put my finger on it.
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>>54809530

Sobonokaok the Unifier, a Vesk political leader seeking to undermine Pact Worlds/Veskarium peace and unity through terror on Vesk-owned operations and planets, with planted evidence pointing pact world extremists as the perpetrators. He is secretly being funded by Swarm deep cover agents, though he does not realize that.
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>>54809530
Kyoji with the help of the Dark Gundam
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>>54809558
It turns the Mechanic into a discount Soldier, and at that point you just have to ask yourself, "why not make a Soldier?"
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>>54809530
The inevitable heat death of the universe

>>54809538
What is 'man'?
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>>54809196
>>54809210
>>54809225
Interesting, do you think this will be the last that the PCs see of the kobolds? Also what level does that put the party at now, 4th?

>>54809352
I once did that in a game. I was the only good-aligned PC in the party, and we attacked some kind of lesser dragon, eventually defeating it with a Baleful Polymorph spell from the bard. It only failed its first save, so it retained its mind. My PC discussed the situation with it and decided that the party wasn't really in the right for attacking it unprovoked, and offered to dispell the polymorph on it if it would promise not to attack the party afterwards. The dragon was still disgruntled about its hoard of gems being taken, but since the other PCs refused to give back their share of the loot, my PC coughed up his share of the loot and then some to try and make things a bit better. The dragon flew away after being transformed back to normal and we never saw it again.
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>>54809530
Totally-not Doctor Wily (is actually basically Doctor Wily)
>>
Can you remove fatigued with something that removes exhausted?
Can you remove sickened with something that removes diseased?
Can you remove shaken with something that removes frightened?
etc
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>>54809575
Enough Talk.
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>>54809530
PF Void Dragon from the depths of the dark tapestry
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>>54809530
Cisgender Christian Capitalistic White Males
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>>54809610
I hope I look half that awesome when I'm old and balding out
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>>54809623
Well sickening and disease aren't actually related. Sicken progresses into Nausea.
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>>54809594
Level 4 yes
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>>54809530
A big dumb robot monkey head with cartoonishly large laser hands.
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>>54809575
A miserable little pile of secrets.
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>>54809530

Gray goo that has taken human form.
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>>54809623
Is there a specific effect you're looking at?
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>>54809594
>do you think this will be the last that the PCs see of the kobolds?

I'd be surprised if they didn't show up again. Although I can't say I'm looking forward to a rematch with Kyder. That spear fucking hurt.
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>>54809652
KILLTHEM! KILL THEM ALL! STOP OPPRESSING MEEEEEE~~~TRIGAAAALEEEEEEAAAAALEEEEEPUFFFFFF....
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>>54809708
How can anyone take such a miserable-looking human being seriously.
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>>54809530
The sun
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>>54809654
megaman was his son
his secret is nanobots
christ those are bit hands
the robot designs steadily get stupider as you go higher
go suck a dick yellow devil
wily could unironically be an interesting villain protagonist if given the chance

So how do I run a Pathfinder or Starfinder game like a Megaman game, and what are all the reasons that's a terrible idea?
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>>54809530
Old Man Jenkins.
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New thread:

>>54809814
>>54809814
>>54809814
>>54809814
>>54809814
>>54809814
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>>54809816
[obligatory outrage regarding early creation of a new thread]
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>>54809837
Where's that image from? She's really cute!
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>>54809751
>bit hands
>they can separate from the body to function as autonomous attack satellites

"like a megaman game" means "like a single player campaign where new abilities are dependent not on levels but on killing specific entities, yet not truly having a choice of how or what you rip out to use after.
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>>54809523
You could just ignore that retarded rule and keep on having actual fun despite Paizo's best efforts.
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>>54809869
I suspect you of being the new thread poster, so I will not give you this information out of pettiness and spite.
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I'm working on something /pfg/, and I need an Interger

What Integer is best associated with /pfg/? Assume interger of values up to 9999999999 are allowed
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>>54809484
When did they make that change, anyways? It sounds like an "FAQ" affair
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>>54810074
616, desu
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>>54810074
5
the average mental age of the 30 year old grognards who make up the /pfg/ anons.
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>>54810253
>he thinks that average /pfg/ anon is 30

More like 19-22.
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>>54810764
20 year olds still have hopes and dreams.
Unless they're seriously fucked in the head, they're not in here.
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>>54810830
>le bitter and nihilistic intellectual, 4chan

At least your self-loathing has always given me a good chuckle.
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>>54806565
>Your spymaster is reporting that your spymaster is betraying you, milord.

>>t. Your humble spymaster
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>>54810074
413

>>54810253
>>54810764
>>54810830
Hah! I defeat all your guesses and expectations!
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Hey /pgg/,

Keep that Edna faggot contained. Fucker needs a leash.

t. /r/pathfinder
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>>54811022
You think we have control over him? We dion't even like him, and for the most part we trie to ignore his shit entirely or tell him to shut the fuck up, without any success
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>>54807408
>innocence
>lewd AP

It's just stupidity.
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>>54810995
>found the retiree
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