Army advice

going to only bump this a few times

>>54787876
Do you want to win tournements? The set cheaper than buying the miniatures seperatelly, but they aren't the best competitively.

Unlike what you are saying, they do have a fluff reason to exist; They guarded the imperial palace for about 10.000 years till Papa Smurf told them to stop being useless and start killing heretics and Xenos.

oh no doubt the set is cheaper that's what attracted my attention to it, while I couldn't give two craps about tourneys there were several larger blogs that made them sound like they were a army riddled with issues so being so being somewhat new again I just wanted to get some actual players perspectives.

So a while back I bought like 40ish unassembled marines from a guy for super cheap, and with the new edition I was curious what else I'd need to have an ok army. The marines appear to be from the early nineties and are just stock generic marines with a few beaky heads mixed in.

>>54788685
I don't know how they are in regards to points value/damage output ratio, but the changes to how transports work have dramatically improved the Talon units from how they performed in 7th edition.

>>54789189
I ended up buying the set ten mins ago from a seller for $99 with free (but slow) shipping, that was a lot cheaper than the other sites and its a very good value I was just leery at first because there was a bunch of shit talk about the talons but I will chalk it up to players getting triggered over nothing.

>>54788685
Mathematically a squad of custodian guard will defeat a bloodthirster (and a lot more scary stuff) in CC, tanks are very resilient this edition (Landraider is T8 with a 2+ save, 16 wounds and a 5+ invul). Sisters of silence seem situational, but against psyker heavy armies they are defentelly worthwhile.

>>54789430
It's hard. I go wrong with 10 flamers, really. Don't discount bolter SoS either. They can snipe character psykers.