Do people even like/play Dark Eldar? Can someone explain the

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>>54757601
Anyone who plays Chaos/Dark Eldar should play them only ironically, those who aren't playing them ironically are mentally deficient.

>>54757601
I like that they are highly mobile glass cannons. Also dig their aesthetics.

>>54758055
Seconded
Problem comes when my main opponent plays necrons and after all my shooting his whole army gets right back up.
Any tips?

>>54759427
Submit to the Superiority of the Crons and prepare your dudes for the Necrodermis dildo.

>>54759427
Phantasm Launchers. Any Necrons that die to moral don't come back as of the latest faq

My wife collects them because they're edgy and Lelith. Wife's name is Lillith

I like their playstyle but I don't think I could collect them because of the fluff. The models are pretty decent but a bit edgy (literally).

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Snowflake status pretty much, I always loved Eldar but once so many people started playing them after the buffs i switched to DE to play something unique

>>54757601
>Edgy to the point of being fun
>Hellraiser-esque
>Amazing model line
>Fun playstyle that's hard to do, making it interesting

>>54757601
Why would anyone want to play arguably the darkest, edgiest faction in the setting known for being grim and dark?

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>>54757601
>Cool, stylish model line
>Challenging to play as, nobody in their right mind accuses you of being beardy if you win
>Fun background

I dunno. In a setting full of "HONORABLE WARRIORS" and "APOCALYPTIC INVINCIBLE HORDES", it's kind of fun that there's a faction of decadent, petty creeps who lose hard whenever they get into a fair fight. They don't really want to take over the galaxy, they don't really have much in the way of principles or philosophy, they're just a bunch of jerks who don't really care enough to learn a less destructive way to live.
Also, they're pretty funny.

>>54757601
they look cool. IG who should be cool and are apparently humans look like mutant scum.

The Deldar models in general, Scourges in particular, are some of the best GW has ever produced. I know that's a low hurdle to get over but still.

>>54760098
Seconding this. It's fun to lay a deadly decadent noble sometimes. Shame the armies have to rely so much on vehicles.

>>54760098
This seems to be generally overlooked, but is also the reason why I love them so much. For all the horrible shit they do, at the end of the day they are incredibly pathetic. They have no larger goals other than staving off the inevitability of Slaanesh eating them all, and they don't even bother to dream of anything bigger or a way out like their brethren do. They just continue their self-destructive lifestyles from before the fall, because they can't be bothered with anything else.

>>54759427
I know that's you, Kev.

Isn't deldar the smallest and most niche of the xenos?
So the hipster army, rapist bdsm elves aren't an easy sell

Why would you ever take cluster caltrops over a grav talon? Struggling to understand

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>>54757601
Kabalites and Reavers look cool as hell, and Wracks, Scourges and Incubi aren't bad either

Also these:
>>54760098
>>54760780

I like having the option of playing a faction thats almost Dick Dastardly in their devotion to being evil, no brooding or angst just the 40k equivalent of hookers and blow and guns but without the Slaaneshi gifts of extra penises. Plus I'd never feel bad when they lose a battle because they probably deserve it.

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>>54757601
I love my murder obsessed torture pirate elves, thank you very much.

>>54760780
They are basically addicts. There is nothing that prevents them from adopting a lifestyle of a craftworlder, other than their addiction to extreme sensation.

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>Hyper-technological space elf pirate raiders on sleek aesthetic grav-craft, arena fighting gladiators and freakish augmented mad scientists all in one army
>Really well concieved and executed model line
>Interesting tactics
>Fun fluff

What's not to like. I understand its a niche considering they're pretty grotesque but you get a bunch of people who love being the grotesque monstrous irredeemable scourges on the galaxy.

>>54757601
I like their gameplay, and the stupidly over the top glam metal aesthetic. Also it's an entire race of edgelord animu fan fiction characters and that's just delightful.

>>54761829
i like the mercenary bit of their lore/fluff, rogue trader/inquisitor/ planetary governor with some testicular fortitude and-or major hubris hiring them for some deniable wetwork,

>>54762795
the story so far, inquisitor jaroslav has just hired the cabal of bitter dreams to dispose of his,,, problems,

the archon is a sly and cruel negotiator and wants 1000 souls in down payment befoer sevices are rendered, what will our hero do?

imperial prison world Almarak, one week later,

the high warden studied the symbols swirling around the holo-ring, the codes and ciphers all checked out, and the big red =][= was kind of a hint, still this was most peculiar, and so he did what most imperial servants would rather risk bodily harm to avoid, he asked the throne agent to clarify the request, across the fancy table jaroslav simply said, i would like to make a withdrawal.

Speaking for myself I played Dark Eldar because I liked the playstyle. Much later when they got new models in 5th edition I effectively bought a second dark eldar army for the amazing models.

>>54762795
The Merc units are some of the coolest looking.
Incubi, mandrakes, and scourges.
Scourges are also really good which is cool.

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>>54757601
>Some of the coolest official models produced by GW
>Actually decent female face sculpts
>Tactical playstyle that requires focus, strategy, and perfection
>The epitome of Grimderp lore
>Thier leaders are capable of taking on the Necrons with their level of douchebaggery and banter
>Objectively the best when it comes to the Space Pirate schtick.

>>54757601

Their models look wicked, they have top Bant's and primarily exist to upset and annoy everyone else in the setting. When they lose they deserve it and when they win it's hilarious.

>>54757601
I think they look cool, and explaining them to others is actually less embarrassing than explaining most of the other self-insert fragile-ego small-penis projection-fantasy factions like space marines

>>54757601
>ask on /40kg/ how to start collecting eldar as i dont like SC! box
>three of them tell me to go DE
>tell them i have Chaos already so no need for more edge
>"poor excuse"
Fuck you i want elves with shurikens and waifus, and some order too
At least one anon told me to get wraithguard and some transport

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Easy, they look fucking rad.

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I've been a Druchii/DEldar fan since reading the Darkblade series.

I like the idea of a brutal meritocracy and the anti-hero that you still root for.

Also the aesthetics.

They are space pirates.
I don't view them as the too edgy for you BDSM fantasy that GW is trying to push.
To me they are space pirates and I always loved pirate stories and adventures.

At least, that's why they appeal to me.

Drazhar.

>>54765951
The models of Reavers are awesome, too. Just not sure about this edition's rules for them, yet.

I play them because I have a hardon for fleshcrafted abominations, and Covens are fucking sick.

>>54757745
How do you spend hundreds of dollars on something ironically?

>>54768924
Not sure about the rules? They became more durable with a 4+ and 2 wounds AND the ability to choose your drugs made them baller as hell

Shame they neutered cluster caltrops tho

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>>54760091
>>54757601
Because they aren't edgy, they're fun. They're horrible, monstrous, arrogant, and they love being so. You wouldn't see an Archon brooding over causing an atrocity unless they were disappointed there were survivors. Chaos is phenomenal when you are looking to play something with a betrayal/vengeance motive and Imperium is great if you want to be righteous, but the Dark Eldar are the single-most perfect symbol of Warhammer 40k. They're monsters who want to be monstrous and who's entire society is centered around torture which they have a biological need for. Warhammer 40k answers the question, "What would happen if the only way to survive was to embrace the worst atrocities as a way of life?" and the DEldar are that taken to its logical extreme.
>>54757745
And everyone who plays Imperium anything is boring with a side of self-aggrandizement. Learn to play something interesting, loyalist

>>54772730
By having a very fragile grasp on fiscal responsibility and your first "unlimited credit" card.

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So what are my fellow Archons working on right now for their armies? Currently working on my Tantalus which is going to be my Archons pimp mobile.

>>54773251
>Imperium is great if you want to be righteous
More like "Imperium is great if you want to be as cruel as the Dark Eldar, but in denial."

>>54776264
How was it assembling that bad boy? I've been looking at getting one myself.

>>54776264

I don't care for the forge world de vehicles, they all looks like frankenstein monsters of the raider model with a bunch of stuff tacked onto them. For some reason the massive space in the middle of that model bothers me.

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>>54776264
Settled on my Kabalite colour scheme on the weekend, this is my Archon (still a WIP mind you)

I've gotten a bit distracted by deciding to start up a Dred Mob force on the side, but I'll try finish off getting my Dark Eldar ready this weekend and hopefully actually start playing the week after

>>54757601
>Cyberpunk supercity ruled by space pirate mafia
>Mad Max-style gangs fight in the streets and in the air for the peoples' entertainment
>Mad scientists compete to make the most horrific monstrosities, in some beautiful unholy amalgamate of all sorts of 80's horror B-movies
>Ultraviolence and future drugs are their modus operandi and their lifeblood

>>54776264
Waiting on a shipment of some blue stuff so I can mold up a few more Dark Lances and Blasters. Working on a couple squads of Scourges, which I'll kit out with said DLs, as well as a couple squads of Trueborn, with said Blasters. That Tantalus looks really nice, by the way.

>>54776803
>t. Aaron Dembski-Bowden
Daddy you're an asshole why did you leave!!!!

>>54764646
Speaking of objectively the best space pirates, I was always disappointed that Duke Sliscus got cut
Also I'm sure I did once see a metal 25-8mm Ziggy Stardust mini, but I'll be damned if I can find it again

>>54778116
Wouldn't Ziggy make a better Tech Priest? Because of the Spiders from Mars?

>>54757601
>Actually take skill to play
>Actually take skill to paint
>Just chilling in Commorragh not giving a fuck about the shitty universe plots happening
>actually represent females in the universe well in both fluff and models
>Not space marines /space marines with spikes

>>54778149
Nah, Ziggy's an alien - combine with the thin white duke persona and you've got Sliscus to T: a highly fashionable and sexual androgynous alien on a mountain of drugs

>>54778206
Fair enough.

>>54776264
Just magnetizing some scourges today. Ran out sadly so will be painting up some warriors. Then I'll prime my Ravager tomorrow. I also started a Dark Eldar discord. https://discord.gg/TuUDbxf

Per I mostly play Admech but I do really dig the Covens aesthetic and also most of the lore. I was thinking of getting a round of Deldar bits and making some Divisio Genetor cybernetic monstrosities. Thing is that with our massive 8e nerfs we're basically Worse Shooty Dark Eldar at any case, since we don't even get move buffs and 6+ FnP to stay alive. Maybe I should make a Covens army on the side, always thought Wracks were badass. They any good now, or did you lose all your wargear options same as us?

>>54757601
They're lewd and they love it.

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>>54778223
I never did play covens but I think they got nerfed due to losing all the formations in the Homoncualus covens supplement. Wracks are still good though. I've heard from some that grotesques are better. I think its mostly the pain engines that people are unsure about.

>>54757601
I started playing 4th. I liked their play style it required boldness, strategy and luck. I also unironically loved their looks back then but I'm a huge GW hipster and love 1st-4th ed models.

>love their looks
>I like the asshole pirates schtick it's fun to be the bad guy
>Incubi (I miss their head guns)
>raiders

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>>54776264
Ooooh shit he bought the pimp mobile good on you fellow Archon!

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>>54777848
Is that some motherfucking void vipers mah nigga? Hope they all turn out so well bro.

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For me it was the models first then I read path of the dark eldar and quickly bought a start collecting box.

>>54757745
> worships space anomalies bound by machine
> calls chaos mentally defective

At least the soul exists in the warp, while replacing half your brain with tech is literally the act of becoming mentally defective.

>>54779464
What in dear gods name is that lizard???

>>54759601
Your wife was named after a whore-demon.

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>>54780065

Its a snek called a Sslyth.

>>54780161
Wow that's awesome, thanks!

>>54780161
I remember a friend made a squad of them and painted them black and yellow. He always told his opponents to not step on snek. But nothing about shooting them with a Manticore.

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>>54779482
>Is that some motherfucking void vipers mah nigga?
that they are thanks again for the name my man
>>54780182
Sslyth are actually pretty damn good in game too

>>54780328
>>54780161
Those models are hard as fuck to get a hold of. Every batrep I see uses them though must be worth the hunt.

>>54780540
I ordered a couple off the GW store online. Shame they're finecast, a plastic kit would be top tier, but they're still nice models.

>>54757601
Do the dark elder EVER get fucked over? In the fluff they always come out on top and get away with basically stealing entire solar systems.

>>54772730
I bought a 2000pt admech army because I hated how they looked
They've grown on me since then

>>54780685
Well there soul is slowly consumed by slannesh...but they just torture to avoid it...and they have ways to avoid death...I think no, they always get on top - figuratively and literary

>>54780685
Yeah, they get smacked down sometimes. Probably less than usual because A) they hit and run so they're fighting on their terms most of the time and B) writers forget about them when writing other Codexes when they need an enemy to beat in fluff

But there are some examples, one Kabal got wiped out entirely when it rolled into what they thought was a defenseless imperial city but found out it had been evacuated and prepared for a Raven Guard ambush.

>>54780685

Usually they get fucked over when their carefully laid plans are suprisingly thwarted usually though its internal sabotage by a fellow dark eldar to wipe out a rival. The big cheese in Commorragh came to power after letting a Salamanders flagship into Commorragh and killing hundreds of thousands of DE.

They also routinely get their shit pushed in by Chaos when a dysjunction happens in Commorragh.

>>54780685
In the Fall of Orpheus book by Forgeworld they get driven away (read: probably a lot of them atomized) by the Necrons, and later about 200 Kabalites get their shit pushed in hard when a sergeant of the Minotaurs chapter lays a trap for them by rounding up all the workers in a fuelling station, and using them as bait for the Deldar. The Deldar all die, while the casualties among the workers are suprisingly low - only 6 in 10 died.

>>54780685
Nah, I think they lose pretty frequently. While permanently destroying the Dark City seems to be impossible, any time they fight a real battle they usually get wiped out or driven off. Plus, probably their most significant fluff battle was teleporting the Salamander's Battle Barge into the city, then losing massive amounts of warriors trying (and failing) to take it over. Vect won that one by consolidating his power base, but it was definitely a victory for the marines.
They don't have a lot of defeats where swathes of territory are lost like other factions do, in part because they just don't work that way. They're less of an empire, more of a parasite on the galaxy.
>>54760780
You're right on about them being pathetic. It's a very interesting quality for an antagonist, and a hard one to get right. For me, I think the DE hit the perfect balance between pathetic and dangerous.

>>54766051
Ever read a cage, shattered? It's just a fanfic but I recommend it to every DEldar fan into the lore https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Story:A_cage,_shattered

>>54757601
They're the edgiest cunts in an already hilariously edgy setting. They're not too expensive since they have low model armies. They're not exactly hard competitive, but their rarity kind of gives you a left-hand advantage, as in nobody knows what to do against you because you're the first deldar player they've seen.

>>54780328
Always nice to help another Archon! Anyone else have any great reason for loving your piratical space elves?

>>54757601
Dark Eldar are pretty much Anarcho-Capitalist master race.
>Have some of the most skilled (high WS, BS, and Initiative) characters of any mortal races
>Pretty much all of their political leaders are described as unmatched geniuses
>Pretty advanced technology particularly in biology
>Lots of elites of elites units like Bloodbrides and Klaivexes
>Main political entities are Kabals and Haemonculi covens which act like slavery corporations and teams of mad scientists respectively

As a result I made my army based around this, a Haemonculi coven obsessed with making the perfect organism. They enlist elites like incubi, bloodbrides, and succubi and use genetic material from those they deem capable enough to breed superior dark eldar. They also work alongside the manipulators of Dark Eldar society like Vect and Lady Malys since the perfect lifeform would obviously be a genius in addition to being strong and fast like Lelith or a klaivex.

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>>54785443
>when your rival archon is hosting a rape-party for his mon-keigh raid-order child bride so you fire a black hole at him because the rape sounds invaded your private property

Gods be damned, I love this city.

I'd like to start collecting DE. How do you play them?

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>>54788018
Stick those Kabalites from the box in the raider then have eeeeeeverything you have hit them hard and fast preferably first. Like another anon said read up on your rules because DE are rare enough to where people go wait you do what? Splinter weapons always wound on 4+ and I've seen many ah head scratched over just that.

>>54780685
All the time in space marine fluff whenever a character needs a high kill count to pad their numbers.
For example DE raided the white scars homeworld and took some villagers hostage so karoso'khan went into the webway and hunted down every single member of the kabal personally rescuing most of the villagers and killing 1,000+ DE.

>>54780685
They just recently got fucked over with the whole Ynnari thing when Khaine's Gate broke and Comorragh got flooded with daemons

>>54791978
To be fair Decapitator saved the day with his skull-powered Event Horizon portal.

>>54757601
>bondage
>elves

>>54757601
Edgy sexy space elves on more drugs than an 80s rock band

So what music do the various Dark Eldar groups listen to?

Reavers probably blare Eurobeat in their races.
Hellions are definitely punk rock.

>>54757601
They used to be the highly complex glass cannon race.
One that required a lot more mechanical knowledge and finesse than other races to succeed with.

>>54792964
Also I'd argue they took a lot more finesse to paint well than your average Tyranid, Ork, Space Marine, etc.

Don't know if either of these things are still true, but that's why I played them in 4th.

Because they look amazing and are fun. They are twisted fucks with good stories.

>>54761065
ideally you would fall back when engaged against two separate units, thus more chances at mortal woulds. But I don't take either of them anymore. grav-talon is a 50% chance to cause an extra wound, big woop. That's 1/3rd of a blaster, and 1/4 a dark lance. I'd rather save the points.

>>54794632

Bikes got nerfed this edition pretty hard. Last edition I couldn't get enough of them. D6 s6 rending wasn't terrible

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>>54777449
It actually fit together really well, apart from the main sail which was more warped then the ending of Event Horizon. And the flying base FW supplies you with is an absolute fucking joke, it's just the regular 40mm flying base. You basically HAVE to drill your own stand.

>>54785443
>biology

Biology is such a crude mon'keigh term I prefer 'fleshcraft' or 'pain science'.

Simple

>I like speed
>I like shooting
>I dislike Marines

That's what got me into them initially, then I started to read the lore, I love the fact that unlike most other factions Dark Eldar don't have any lofty ideals or grand plans; just get in, get shit get out.

An Anon once said; They are the equivalent of a bunch of rich arseholes strapping guns to their private yahts and becoming pirates to preserve their lavish lifestyle.

And if there is one thing I like; it's pirates.

>>54778301
What is this, Imperial Guard by CS Goto? Why are they firing autoguns? Or if those are supposed to be lasguns, why are they firing small light "pellets" instead of friggin' lasers?

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>>54792279
Damn that was some unexpected shit. I honestly thought dude was a loony fuck bird. Then "dare you enter my shadow realm?" Occurs.

>>54781312
That was shitty culleux wankery.

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Post yo DE armies fags

>>54757601
You obviously see no problems with their behaviour if you are some kind of selfish hedonist.

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>>54797279
Literally just finished painting up my 50PL army, going to try get a game in tomorrow night; it'll be my first 40k game in 15 years or so, so hope it goes well. I'll get some proper pictures on the weekend, but he's my finished Archon, I posted the WIP version a bit earlier.

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>>54797340
Quite. Jambi, bring the raspberry jam!

>muh glass cannons
>muh high mobility paper army
>muh high-skill army without any cheese
>gotta get everything right or i lose
>tips feddorah

So many comments like these, its fucking ridiculous. DE are one of the top armies right now, scourges, aircraft, raiders, venoms and basically everything with a dark lance kicks ass. Its cool if you like the fluff, but stop trying to act like high skilled underdogs.

>>54799162
I imagine a lot of that sentiment is holdover from pretty much every edition prior to 8th where they were a lot more high risk high reward. They're in a good place now for sure though.

>>54757601
I like the models they have in the current range and I like things that move fast.

>>54799162
>So many comments like these, its fucking ridiculous
Sorry, we didn't all just start playing warhammer in the last 2 months. Ive been playing DE for 2 years now and I have loved the speed, glass cannon, risk/ reward, im terribly sorry they made the army decent...

>>54796839
Mandrakes being useful this edition has one of the best things to have ever happened to this army since Scourges becoming useful back in 2010

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Bumping with muh trueborn

>>54758055
Thirded. Everyone I know who plays them likes the glass cannon feel and skill level asociated with that. Or they like the aesthetic.
They also happen to be my favourite army to play against with marines so I hope they keep apealing to people.

>>54797704
I like the purple trophie loin cloth nice choice Anon.

>>54807057
Those are nice Anon!
I really wanna try the corsair kitbash true born with the reaver helmets. I saved some of the helmets from gangs hope to get that set up soon.

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>>54797279
About everything thus far don't mind the bloodletters those are my Gf's.

>>54780685
There was the time that one eldar let 3 entire chapters of space marines into Comorragh to eliminate his rivals

>>54807057
I'm not gonna lie anon, that front middle dude looks a bit crossed eyed

>>54799162
>why did you get into this race that has existed for 20 years.
>none of those reasons are valid because the rules changed 4 months ago

Fuck you're stupid.

>>54757601
Basically, I like the Dark Eldar because they're the galaxies biggest trolls, on par with Trazyn. They will literally cause wars or fuck with people because it's funny

>>54797279
Nice raiding party you got there, OLD MAN

>>54792661
They seem like a race composed entirely of Nine Inch Nails fans, but without the irony

>>54809877
>without the irony

That's where you're wrong, i'm pretty sure the Deldar are perfectly self aware and if they ever let themselves think about it, would be miserable.

Instead, they collectively decided, if they were assholes, and they had to be assholes to survive, they were going to be the most gloriously dickish assholes ever.

Basically, while Craftworld Eldar live with their sorrow and get all morose about it and shit, and the Amish Eldar get back to nature and leave it all behind them, the Dark Eldar say "fuck it" and shoot cocaine into their eyeballs

>>54809842
P-pls don't bully, it took me a bit more than 15 years to get back into it , fuck I love the new models tho eh

>>54809923
But NIN is about using hard electronic music and lyrics to portray a life of joyful brutality and excess, with the underpinnings of thinking, "Hey, this isn't actually helping me. Maybe I'm wrong about this view on life." It's like how NIN's "Closer" was a criticism of decadence, but people went, "Hey, that's a cool song to have sex to."

>>54809948
No worries. Being an old archon is a sign that no one has assassinated you yet.

>>54780685
An archon that piloted a razorwing jetfighter was made the assassination target for a vindicare assassin. The last known position of the archon was at a static webway gate, so the assassin stays on a hill facing it for 6 years, subsisting on moss and raw bird meat until the fighter reappears - pilot gets sniped within less than a second.

>>54768924
Oh, there's already units named Reavers? That explains why the Primaris unit has that retarded name.

>>54757601
One thing I like about them is that they're all the pointless, grotesque, hedonistic evil with no need for "I'm a mindless daemon, it's literally all I can do" or pathetic daddy issues of Chaos. They're better Chaos than Chaos.

>>54780685
Much like the Tau, they can get away with winning because they're irrelevant to the galaxy at large. If a Tyranid Hive Fleet or Ork WAAAAGH or Chaos Black Crusade isn't stopped, they raze and devour and conquer until everything's toast. If you lose to DEldar, they just take the shit they want and fuck off.

>>54773182
The change in the "Melta" and vehicles going to wounds hurts the AT ability of Reavers. They aren't bad, especially as shooters. T5 is good.

>>54796353
Look closer at them. Those guys are pretty much copypasted Starship Troopers marines. Not that that's a bad thing, considering the influence it had on 40k.

Besides, the IG are canonically barely competently supplied. I can see a shipment of lasguns not arriving and the regiments having to barter with gangers and local forces for their autoguns.

Anybody seen anything about the Alladin comic brought up in the last Dark Eldar general?

>>54799162
A few months of current overpowered easy wins doesn't invalidate close to 2 decades of being the high skilled faction.

>>54764646
One of those things that bothered me as I started finding out more about 40k lore was the existence of Corsairs.
I mean, the idea is kinda neat, but I thought the entire point of the Deldar was that they were creepy asshole pirates. Why did the setting need slightly-less-creepy asshole pirates from the same race?

>>54778221
Now, the Spiders themselves, his back-up, would definitely be some sort of Admech or Skitarii forces.

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>>54810308
tfw I'll be 30 next year
Just kill me already vect, it's my time

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>>54780685
Gorgutz trashed Vect's Dais of Destruction in Dawn of War: Soulstorm.

>>54780115
I call her my succ-ubus.

>>54812372
Now that you mention it Jaffar does seem terribly reluctant to show us his ears.

>>54809422

Oh really? I will have a closer look at it and redot one of the eyes if that's the case. I still need to return to my witches and retouch the faces since I painted them a while before I improved at fine detail.

>>54810734

>One thing I like about them is that they're all the pointless, grotesque, hedonistic evil with no need for "I'm a mindless daemon, it's literally all I can do" or pathetic daddy issues of Chaos. They're better Chaos than Chaos.

This.

This is why I like them, they have the human like element where they are perfectly intelligent, rational, sentient 'mortals'. They are slightly more relate-able than a Necron or Tyranid but have the whole high tech torture slave, soul vampire thing which makes them fun and interesting.

>>54813256
The picture you posted doesn't really convey that

>>54797704
Victory! Struck the first blow against Chaos on Nethamus today, was a fun game too.

>>54817107
I trust you did something more than just speed towards the finish line?

>>54817130
I admit it crossed my mind, but as this was my reintroduction to the game after a very long hiatus I decided to stick around to fight for a bit. Glad I did, as it was a fun match and ended up very close.

>>54757601
Not necessarily. It appeals to fans of the Dark Elves, and they have cool infantry and transport models.

>>54757745
I used to like Chaos because you could take as many veteran skills as you can pay for if you didn't take a mark.

They changed that and now it sucks.

>>54764806
If you don't view Space Marines as tragic child-soldiers who never got the chance to be human, you're doing it wrong.

Half the game is total cringe, but there's something to be said about an unironic Dark Eldar player.

>>54812904
Dont worry, you'll grow accustomed to it.

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Thoughts on Reavers or Hellions assaulting flyers?

>>54818979
Hellions would be better in terms of actually meleeing them; with their attacks and 2 damage per hit they'd actually put pretty big holes in the more fragile fliers.

Reavers get Blasters and Heat Lances though, so they'd be better just shooting them.

>>54819007
I was thinking Reavers with Caltrops could basically get free mortal wounds against Flyers that have to move to keep airborne.

>>54776803
Just say self-righteous.

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One thing I don't get about Dark Eldar and Druchii is how society works if they're always backstabbing each other and fucking each other over, with no room for friends.

I liked then in DoW.

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They don't look bulky with tiny heads like Space Marines.

>>54822101
The closest thing they have to friends probably is "not going to backstab in the forseeable future".

I'd like to run a campaign though where everyone is "newborn" Dark Eldar fresh out of the same Haemonculi clinic. I've theorized that's the first peer group those Dark Eldar have, like some grimdark Oliver Twist with psycho nymphomaniac drug addict elves in an Inception-city.

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>>54822101

The system works because there is always a bigger badder fish who will avenge those you wrong. So you have to pick your battles carefully and thats why it doesn't descend into anarchy. If you kill a kabalite then that whole kabal will come down on you lest they be seen as a weak kabal that will cannot protect its members and therefore draw aggression from others.

It's pure darwinistic equilibrium, they have evolved to be one step ahead and manipulate the enivronment to survive using machievellian tactics. It's a pretty hellish constant fight to maintain your position but it works.

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Druchadi here.

>>54825808
Shit, I've always thought of dark eldar fitting all the ancap memes perfectly but that's made me rethink it.

>>54821903
Its still only a +4 for one mortal wound be caltrop though, and as you can only have one per three of an already expensive unit its not going to make a huge difference. May as well just shoot them.

>>54831083
Stating the obvious a bit, but you can shoot them then assault them.

>>54831216
In that case no reason not to go Grav Talons.

>>54829385
They pretty much are anarchocapitalists. They are concerned entirely with self-interest and have no true goverment, with their society being composed of people banding together into gangs and kabals for mutual self-interest (archons need kabalites to fight for them, and a lone DE with no connections to more powerful individuals has nothing to stop other DE from murder-raping them the moment they leave their house).

Anarchy doesn't imply everybody is a lone who never co-operates or interacts with other people. It's human (or in this case eldar) nature that people team up to solve a problem they can't solve alone (in case of the DE they'd probably backstab each other the moment they no longer need the other person, but the pressure of other gangs and kabals existing and turning on them if they grow too weak keeps kabals together). Anarchy implies no structured goverment, which is the case with DE: their society is run by whoever has strength to force others into doing what they want, and any rules exist only where the archon who made them is able to enforce them (so an archon might be an absolute ruler over the territory he can control with his military, but has no power in the area controlled by his rivals. Also things are only "illegal" if you get caught, because rather than there being a justice system that defines the law, it's more "if I catch you doing something I don't like, I'll beat you to death").

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>>54825808
>>54829385
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>>54760780
>>54761748
>They are basically addicts. There is nothing that prevents them from adopting a lifestyle of a craftworlder, other than their addiction to extreme sensation.
That's what makes me feel...sad for them. They are like lost, abused children who only need a hu - *gets a shiv between the ribs*

>>54822101
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>>54825808
>>54829385
>>54832343
Shit. Now I wish there was an RPG or something where you could just dick around in Comorragh working your way up in a cabal, exploring the city, doing Dark Eldar shit.

>>54832343

This is interesting, this is what ancaps want. Either a hyper technological debauched nightmarescape ruled by the most ruthless fortune500 CEOS turned pirate gangsters or Somalia.

>>54822101

In regards to Dark Eldar having friends, they don't exactly have friends as that implies some level of trust between two people. However if you read the path of the dark eldar series you see that they frequently have companions in which they can share interests and look out for one another in a fight and even exchange begrudging respect. But as others have said its likely they will betray one another if they need to, not to say that you couldn't have very long companionships simply because the mutual pact not to kill one another benefits both parties.

>>54832566

Its' like pitying a serial killer because they got abused as a child. You get some women who fall in love with serial killers and they sometimes end up dead.

>>54832794

I always thought a GTA rags to riches style game set Commorragh would be neat.

>>54818638
>Space Marines are all Raiden

It makes so much sense. Fuck, I'm already running 3 armies, and planning on starting 2 more, but now a chapter of Space Marines based on M.S.F. sounds appealing as fuck.

>>54810290
Dark eldar sex is more like Somewhat Damaged than Closer though.

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>>54826281
Amazing, have this in return.

>>54833913
Ancaps believe that human nature is inherently good. Because that is the only fucking way their dumb idea would not basically degenerate into something akin to Commoragh.

>>54833938
>I always thought a GTA rags to riches style game set Commorragh would be neat.
About he best we could really hope for would be an adaptation of Gangs of Commoragh like we got for Mordheim.
I remember some old WD had a ruleset for a chaos warband type campaign, that could be easily adapted for 40k, about working your way up from a small gang of marauders to a feared champion of the gods. May be worth looking up.

Man, this thread made me want to dig up my old DEldar and get back into 40k.
Then I saw my fuckawful paintjobs and put them back in their tim.

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>>54757601
They are fun and silly and OTT enough to remind us that 40k is not meant to be taken seriously. For those of us to whom 40k is still a kitchen-sink self-parody metal-album-cover come to life setting, and not some super serious shared universe franchise, they are the leatherdaddy bondage HR Geiger metal cover, which is pretty damn funny.

If you take 40k seriously, I can kind of understand why you wouldn't see the appeal.... but then again if you take 40k seriously, I don't know how you can see the appeal in 40k at all.

>>54832794
Literally Blades in the Dark

>>54757601
Dark Eldar are hilarious.

>>54757601
They're the biggest assholes in a universe full of huge assholes

>>54834823
So Necromunda, but with sexy bdsm murder-elves? Fund it.

>>54833938
>I always thought a GTA rags to riches style game set Commorragh would be neat.

Especially since sections of the city are home to all manner of aliens and mercenaries. It would be like a purple lit Miami.

>>54836432
>Hot Line Commorragh
Fund it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAM6mG6BWjw

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>>54832556

I feel like it's a single anon who keeps posting this.

It has potential but the closer is a little weak

Archons, have any of you had any luck running your force as Ynnari?

I'm considering running the Visarch, both for a punching HQ to run alongside some Sslyth (I know they can't take bullets for him though) and because I am terrible when it comes to forgetting about all the bonuses from Power from Pain, and am hoping Soulburst will stick in my head a little better.

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>>54835250
That is what I love about it tho - it's a setting big enough for everything, including serious deep stories, gooey flowery romance (see pic related), comedy and all in between, except perhaps hard science fiction. Can't really hard sci-fi in a setting with chaos gods and OP physics-breaking characters from here to next year.