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Anons say Diceless Dungeons is shit game because you gotta have dice.

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True or false?
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It's OSR so it must be shit.
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True. Don't waste your money on osr crap.
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>>54743289
Diceless games don't have to be shit, no.
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I've heard it's FATAL level of bad with lots of senseless violence against women for "artistic" sake.
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What's it use instead of dice? Does it have a table in the back that you stab with your pencil?
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fags
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>>54743289
Post a PDF for critique or get out.
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>>54745705
If it's anything like FATAL it's probably using anal rape chart.
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>>54743289
It's true that we said that.
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>>54743289
You haven't posted a PDF yet, so we have to assume it's garbage.
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>>54746489
it's pay what you want you lazy fag
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>>54746555
See, you said that last thread but neglected to actually provide a link to a pay what you want version. The only place I can find it is at DrivethruRPG, where it is very distinctly not pay what you want.

So, yeah, garbage.
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>>54746628
http://www.oldehouserules.com/free-stuff.html
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>>54746682
Rules aren't there.
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>>54746749
it's diceless there are no rules
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>>54746793
then what the fuck is in the book? just a big "what is roleplaying" section?
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>>54746834
check for yourself you lazy fag it's pay what you want
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>>54746855
No it fucking isn't.
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This whole thread is just the author shilling his stupid work.
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>>54744726
OSR games have to be shit, though.
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>>54743289
I have never heard of this game, but your reticence to provide a PDF indicates that you're shilling, and from there we can infer that it's probably shit.
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>>54746855
it's 3 dollars. it's the completely pointless char sheet that's free.
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PDF or didn't happen.
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>rulesless
What the fuck? Lets get this straight: a role playing game is based in an imaginary setting bounded by rules for the sake of providing a structural element. If the game dosen't have rules then you are just playing imaginary fantasy land in your head, why would you need to pay to do that, kids do it all the time. Maybe its shit like this that gives OSR a bad rep.
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I once ran a diceless rulesless supersoldier game with my and my two buddies back in 2001.
It was fun, I guess, because we were just making up crazy shit like Metal gear/Hollywood movie.
It really warped my impression of RPGs for a few years afterward though, I was convinced that any game mechanics were automatically bad and that diceless was the ultimate RPG experience. I've since adjusted back to normal but it was a good realization that you could snap out of hard simulationism.
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>>54747632
>rulesless
OP said diceless, not rulesless. I haven't seen it, but I assume it had rules that don't involve rolling any dice.
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>>54747719
>>54746793
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>>54746682
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/210174/Diceless-Dungeons?cPath=19547_27755

HEre it is for about tree fitty
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>>54746855

Setting perhaps?
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>>54746834

Setting perhaps?
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>>54746555
It's not pay what you want.
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>>54743289
Sounds like OP is a fag as usual.
>$3 for artsy bullshit
Post main resolution mechanic or go away .
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>>54743289
It's probably shit for different reasons.
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>>54747798
$3.50 for a paperback, 42 page book printed with copious pictures and large print font? From reading the preview, it seems the system offers little more than a minimalist, low-magic setting and a very basic level of resource management.

I'll pass.
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>>54743289

>gotta have dice

>in a RPG

kek
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>>54745632
>lots of senseless violence against women for "artistic" sake.
Anyone got a link for the pdf?
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>>54745632
You may be mistaking this one for LotFP, another OSR crap.
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>>54748781
Sounds like a more than fair price for a game. Remember you are paying for a game, not page count. That said 40 pages sounds like a fair page count too. There's already plenty enough books with overinflated pagecounts out there. These days I value brevity.
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>>54750852
Go away OP.
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>>54746979

And doing it unbelievably badly, too. After all the memeing and bait and switch bullshit it's purely scorched ground at this point.
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>>54746682
After downloading the pay what you want book (which isn't the book that is not pay what you want) I fail to understand why a game without rules and dice needs skill points.
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>>54752790

The rules are in the other book, as mentioned upthread
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Not OP, but here you go. It seems sound but I haven't had a chance to play it. It's not OSR, btw, just designed for OSR-style play. It's also intentionally designed to look like an old mimeographed booklet, so don't be surprised
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>>It's Diceless Dungeons! An old-school, digest-sized game without the bones...

>>You see, every old-school system has a diceless game inside of it, because they emphasize decision-making, exploration, and role-playing above all else. And Diceless dungeons obliges with everything you'd expect from this kind of experience. All the monsters, traps, and treasures. Herein you'll find:

>>Simple, yet robust, rules for character creation and the sorcerer's apprentice...

>>Engaging, but easy-to-use, mechanics that exploit the unknown to do what dice usually do...

>>Combat rules that duplicate the blow-by-blow action of traditional games...

>>Plus evil monsters and magic items ready to be won and wielded by the courageous!

>>All wrapped up in a flexible, narrative format that feels a lot like the imaginative play we knew and loved as children. Oh, and for the squeamish, there's OPTIONAL dice mechanics that are just as simple, easy, and narratively driven as everything else! So sharpen your swords and oil up that armor. The dungeons await heroes brave enough to enter them...

So is it dice or diceless? Confused...
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>>54753778
Completely diceless. Monsters get allocated points of damage that they can inflict on PC's, an vice versa. There's little element of chance with the system, although the exact amount of points a monster or group of monsters get is always kept secret to add an air of uncertainty. It seems solid enough, if a little bland, but again I haven't had a chance to actually play it.
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>>54744249
>>54744713
>>54753250
Why does /tg/ hate OSR now? Like Lofp is gay and all but there's a ton of cool OSR shit.
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>>54753852
Latest trend, thatr's all. Personally I'm actually starting to get into it, and I like LotFP once you get past "Teh Edjiness". (And the picture of the medusa with her collection of porn statues is fucking hilarious. I laugh every time I see it.)
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>>54753250

Jesus, that's awful.
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>>54754238
Indeed. Where's the unprotected anal chart when you need it?
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>>54745705
>What's it use instead of dice?
A "simple" dice alternative is rock paper scisors results
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>>54754358
Here you go.

http://www.donatebytes.com/fatal.pdf
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>>54753250
>Players get to decide how to split the damage
Oh wow, it's fucking nothing.
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>>54754808
Keep reading. The damage is still taken, the players just decide how it gets allocated. This obviously helps with longevity since it means they can give the points to the characters with the most health left, but that seems to be a design feature.
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>>54754808
>>54755343
Honestly, it seems like a fairly solid narrative system, if unexceptional. It just doesn't strike me as particularly good for what it was designed for, dungeon crawling. I would consider using it for more social-based adventures, but I think it would get fairly boring trying to use it for its original purpose.
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