Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

first for lewd

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Here's a good way to start this wholesome thread
What is a model you are getting soon or plan to get soon that you are genuinely excited for, what do you plan to do with it, any cool painting or modeling things you wanna do?
Pic related for me

>>54698301
Well I just got the terminator suppourt carde, but my GW still has a tyranid swarm and eldar transport bundle in stock, which will be my next and second next purchase respectfully

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>>54698301
Wanna find old raptors with this cool jet-packs

>>54695315
I just scan, someone else does the pdf, and if you want to speed the process up, download it and stick it in an imgur folder then ask to add it to the OP

What is most lewdable faction?
>Nb4 genestealer cults

>>54698337
The china man can.

>>54698337
Those were cool jetpacks back in the day. Not to mention crazy bird feet! Now they're just spikey 30k assault marines.

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I fucking LOVE this model and I want to use it for my IG for 40k. Any idea what I could use this as?

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>>54698355

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>>54698269
>>54698294

Mind trying to compare with a laspistol?
>Would if I was at a computer

>>54698359
>not liking spikey 30k over spikey 40k

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Nth for new Grey knight Flyers are neat

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Where is the proof or purchase?
Show me the RECEIPTS

Been tempted to start 40k for a while now and have about $250 to burn, is there any faction I can get a decent 1k list (for the new campaign) out of for this price (open to any faction, I just love the setting in general)? I dont have to worry about hobby supplies just yet as my local shop is very nice about letting people use their stuff so long as we actually shop there

>>54698360
Scion's clown car

>>54698360
Taurox

>>54698376
For 250 you can definitely get a couple start collecting boxes for whatever army you like

>>54698360
some work and it could be a taurox

>>54698372
They have new fliers?

>>54698376

Depends who you're interested in.

If you want marines you can probably get 1000+ all your hobby stuff easily for $250

If you want others it'll be more difficult

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ct-6BTRhNXx46dCxN9f7YxaARRhkUp5Hw0Rypcv3JHs/edit#gid=1657120584

ITC Results by faction

>>54698301
Picking up one of the event only custodes to use as a conversion for Valdor

>>54698376
Arguably just find an army that strikes your fancy and pick up two Start Collectings.

That leaves you you enough to grab one more kit and you should be good for one thousand

>>54698403

They get the stormtalon and other fugly flyer finally

>>54698376
when you think 40k what do you first think of, and have you played any of the computer games for it before

>>54698372
>>54698403
Yeah, whats all this about?

>>54698403
They just get access to the Storm Talon and Stormhawk Interceptor, that regular marines have had for ages now.

>>54698408
I'd prefer lower model count and simple paint schemes for my first army, currently looking at second hand options here but very slim pickings

>>54698429
not exactly new. They get the Storm Talon/Stormhawk in their dex so no more need to ally

>>54698429
Check the GW blog, they have the fylers painted in GK colours

>>54698425
>>54698429
Ah, gotcha

>>54698337
>mfw I have one even older raptor but not those
>mfw I have no face

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>>54698365
Looks much more plausible

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Are Vendettas worth taking now?
How about two Vendettas?
230 points each.

>>54698355
Who is this china man?

>>54698464
but theyt're really shitty sans the flamer

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>>54698425
>>54698430
>>54698445
>>54698447

Thanks, found the pic, here it is for anyone else who was lazy like me and didn't check the blog first.

>>54698479
The old ones or the old-old ones?

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>>54698484

...Yeah....whoops.

>>54698484
Wow, that is one ugly flier...

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Can i give vexilia to my shield captain?

>>54698350
Sisters.

>>54698484
What kind of disgusting degenerate obscure fetish is that from ?!

>>54698505
plus not enough skulls

>>54698465
Thanks!

>>54698415
Am I reading this wrong or are Genestealer Cults the top faction?

>>54698528
>>54698484
I got a thing for lenses, you gonna judge me?

>does the sassy-neck-think

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>>54698350

>>54698415
I too can post shit that doesn't fucking matter, but I choose not to.
Keep your not GW rules and tourney results in your containment forums with the rest of the WAAC tourney players.

>>54698468
Vendettas hit on fives if they move, you will miss a lot or drop into hover and get one turn if shooting before getting shot down, if you're gonna go forge world you might as well get something like the thunderbolt or vulture, the former does anti tank better for about the same points and the later does anti infantry better for less points

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>>54698350
Elf

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>>54698301
Just got these - I've been enjoying trying random techniques out to try and improve, like checks. All of the primaris have been really enjoyable to paint, honestly. Much easier than normal marines.

I may pause after these soon because my elysian drop sentinel just arrived - I'm gonna headswap the pilot and make it a stormtrooper sentinel. I think it'll be really fun to paint.

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>>54698350

>>54697843
>Literally Elves
>Literally spooky elves
>Literally orcs
>Literally gundam commies

necrons and nids are the only vaguely interesting xenos. The rest are as generic as can be.

>>54698534
>The army has bullshit deployment options for turn 1 charges with absolutely devastating melee units
>Ends up being top tier in tourney
Gee, I wonder...

>>54698600
Robutts and Zerg, man. Its always been about the setting, rather than the races, for me

>>54698534
They only have 11 appearances, Chaos are the top of the over 100 games lot (or bang on 100 in their case), despite all of their whining.

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How is the 40k scene in Hamburg Germany? I'm gonna be there for six months and want to know if I should bring my army for more than just painting

>>54698569
Little salty there buds? Just sharing something I found.

>>54698615
>despite all of their whining.
Warp Timing Magnus is good.

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>>54698350

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Rate mah list
Patrool detachment
Hq
Tigurius
Troops
9 custodians with spears and 1 with vexilla+knife
2 custodians with spears and 3 with swords and shields

Auxillary support detachment
troops
9 custodians with swords and 1 vexilla+knife

From the stream:

Objective secured for Chaos.

Renegade Chapter Tactics: Advance and Charge.

Alpha Legion: Not sure what this was, stratagem, warlord trait or legion tactics. When your warlord dies, swap him with one of your characters. This doesn't count to Slay Warlord.

Demon Shells: Shoot any bolter weapon, 1 command point. If you hit, you do D3 mortal wounds. If you miss, you take d3 mortal wounds.

1 command point to give a unit a mark of chaos.

1 command point to ignore heavy on vehicles.

Chaos Boon: Roll between 2 and 12 and get stuff after you kill vehicle, character or monster. One a roll of 7 you get to pick what you want. Other examples: +3" movement. +1 to your armour/invuln saves. You don't need to set aside points for spawn/daemon princes in matched play.

Veterans of the long war: add +1 to wound. Limited to Infantry or bikers. Doesn't work on renegade chapters.

A stratagem to reposition cultists so they're 6" to a board edge.

Line Breaker for your vindicators.

Demon forge stratagem: demon vehicle can reroll hit and wound.

Kill shot for your predators.

Familiar stratagem: change powers in psychich phase.

Hellbrute stratagem: Shoot twice if it didn't move.

Alpha Legion stratagem: Deploy 1 unit in shadows , like Raven Guard.

Tzeentch power, 1 CP: get to use one more power at end of psychic phase

New Dark Hereticus: Death Hex, 8 to cast cast. Enemy unit within 12" can't take invulnerable. (Fuck you stormshields)

>>54698605
>T. Idiot who was still assravaged by 7e Gcults

Pure cult it pretty bad mang. It's mostly just a way to link up Nid and IG cheese with a supreme command detachment.

>>54698628
Who was suicidal enough to breed with Lilith?

>>54698645
Gay-gold-men/10

>>54698600
>necrons and nids are the only vaguely interesting xenos.
>nids
>interesting

anyone have a spare Primaris? I wanted to paint one up for that contest or showcase or whatever, but I'm not buying a box of them for 1 model and the closest GW is over an hour away

>>54698676
Who'd be suicidal enough to say no?

>>54698645
patrol can have more than 2 troops, no need to waste that extra cp and gw said you can nominate a custodian squad as an HQ so you can do that as well

>>54698703

Just buy one of the easy-to-assemble boxes. You get three primaris for like $16

>>54698646
>Objective secured for Chaos.
Already knew that.

>Renegade Chapter Tactics: Advance and Charge.
See above.

>Alpha Legion: Not sure what this was, stratagem, warlord trait or legion tactics. When your warlord dies, swap him with one of your characters. This doesn't count to Slay Warlord.
Obviously the Warlord trait, since we know the stratagem and tactics.

>Demon Shells: Shoot any bolter weapon, 1 command point. If you hit, you do D3 mortal wounds. If you miss, you take d3 mortal wounds.
Now this is cool!

>1 command point to give a unit a mark of chaos.
I assume that means to give a unit a mark mid-game if it didn't already have one.

>1 command point to ignore heavy on vehicles.
Neat that all CSM get this while SM only get it for Iron Hands

>Chaos Boon: Roll between 2 and 12 and get stuff after you kill vehicle, character or monster. One a roll of 7 you get to pick what you want. Other examples: +3" movement. +1 to your armour/invuln saves. You don't need to set aside points for spawn/daemon princes in matched play.
Awesome. I assume it's 1CP?

>Veterans of the long war: add +1 to wound. Limited to Infantry or bikers. Doesn't work on renegade chapters.
Should clarify that's Wound rolls, not Wounds characteristic.

>Rest of stuff
Vaguely interesting. We know all the God-aligned Stratagems now except Nurgle.

>>54698703
This month white dwarf comes with a free.primaris marine

>>54698676
Better question is how was their dick afterwards?

>>54698733

thanks anon, wasn't aware of this

>>54698619
As good as in every other civilized western european city I guess. Bring your army.

>>54698691
Nids are by far the most interesting Xenos.

Everyone else is literally Star Trek tier humans-with-rubber-foreheads.

>>54698646
>1 command point to give a unit a mark of chaos.

Can you explain the point of this power?
Don't Marks only give you a GOD tag for rules?
So can you get TZEENTCH and KHORNE on the same unit or to switch TZEENTCH to KHORNE midgame?

>>54698733
no it fucking doesn't, nothing in my sub, and saw nothing when I went to my store

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>>54698713
I waste cp cause only 1 vexilla per detachment so ill do this anyway (its 2 spear or swordguys instead of tigurius and i thought he can buff custodes)
>>54698689
Shine gold ass !=gay

>>54698747

...Necrons and Orks are Star Trek tier humans?

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>>54698415
Can someone not on a phone give me the top 5 factions please?

>>54698753
Not the White Dwarf, its the $8.00 Learn How to Play Mini-zine

>>54698784
that's not free

>>54698770
I think he means from maybe a design standpoint, as opposed to lore and stuff. Necros and Tau I can see that, orks not so much, even less so with perhaps liek the Rak'gul...

>>54698770
>Necrons literally act exactly like megalomaniacal humans out of saturday morning superhero cartoons right down to speaking english
Yes.

Orks are more interesting than that, though. Actually I give them a solid second place after Tyranids, they even have a unique reproductive method and ecosystem and look different enough from humans to be very recognizably xenos.

Necrons are literally (not figuratively) robot human skeletons.

>>54698790
Thats why I said it was $8.00.

>>54698747
Nids are just cockroaches. They don't have any interesting motivations, they don't have any personality, and all of their models look the fucking same.

>>54698813
Nids have far more distinctive models than SM or Eldar

>>54698375
fark you, i dobt keep them

>>54698713
And where GW said "you can use custodians as HQ"?

>>54698826
They probably meant Warlord.

>>54698823
>Nids have far more distinctive models
You mean after their design overhaul to mimic Starcraft's Zerg?

>>54698813
>cockroaches
>the giger dinosaur race
Fucking lol, your shit taste has been confirmed.

No one in the entire series has "interesting motivations" except for Imperial sub-factions, every single major faction just wants to murder all the others. 40k is a war setting, not an intrigue or political drama.

>personality
Considering the Tyranids lack of personality makes them stand out more than any of the other stereotypical "IM THE MOST ELITEST AND BADASS AND FIGHTY" factions wrapped up in boring-ass egos, I'd say they benefit from it.

>all their models look the same
>implying they don't have one of the more diverse model ranges compared to shit like Space Marines that is basically 4 things copy-pasted a thousand times with slight equipment changes
Holy fucking lol, if Tyranids had nothing but mid-sized bugs like Warriors, Lictors, Raveners and so forth they'd STILL have a more diverse range than SPESS MUHREENS

>>54698813
So they're oldcrons?

>>54698301
Im really looking forward to starting my primaris librarian.

>>54698847
dis niqqa, do zerg have 5 points on their carapace as well

>>54698773
In terms of win percentage over average...
Genestealer Cults
Chaos
Chaos Daemons
Thousand Sons
Imperial Knights

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Can a Thousand Sons army use any of these new psychic powers or stratagems that aren't legion-specific or are they boned until they get their own codex?

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I have too many orks

>>54698858
Weird. Wonder what put GSC and Chaos ahead.

>>54698860
You should be able to, but just dont have legion tactics atm so just follow list from the index

>>54698858
I'm gonna need a source on that because I'm calling bullshit on all but GSC and Knights.

>>54698860
Its dark hereticus discipline and thousand sons use this in index

>>54698858
>Chaos confirmed most powerful Faction overall
>only one Imperial Faction in top 5
>Chaos bitches still whining the Konor campaign is rigged against them because Marines got a Codex for one week more than them

>>54698826
>>54698841
In one of the streams and on a FB post (cant be arsed to track it down atm) they were asked how were custodian only armies going to work and they responded by saying that a custodian squad can be nominated as an HQ instead of a troops choice

>>54698889
Marines got double points, and dark imperium counted as a get collecting, and 40kids only painted the imperial side

>>54698858
In terms of Win % on a game to game basis
Imperial Knights
Chaos
Dark Eldar
Chaos Daemons
Ynnari

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>>54698823
>Faction with troops, planes, tanks, bikes, dreddnaughts, terminators
>Faction where everything from your basic troop to your monstrous creatures is a white and purple spiky bug

>>54698773
Are eldars ears erotic zones?

>>54698878
Chaos can be held up by Brimstones and Warp Timing Magnus

Genestealers can take a detachment of Guardsmen for flexibility.

>>54698889
>Chaos bitches still whining the Konor campaign is rigged against them because Marines got a Codex for one week more than them
It's rigged because of the massive population imbalance.

What are the chances of the Black Templar transfer sheets coming back?

My guess is near zero. GW seems to have forgotten that any chapters other than Ultramarines exist.

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Why does OOE not say Hive Fleet Behemoth, do all hive fleets just have a beat up Carnifex for a giggle

>>54698773
>You will never bully a refined space elf with your brute monkeigh dick

>>54698882
Just follow the arrows
Genestealer Cults had more tournaments wins than average but came 6th in percentage of games won

>>54698926
>do all hive fleets just have a beat up Carnifex for a giggles

Since Old One Eye Prime got digested and added to the Tyranid DNA Matrix?

Yes.

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>>54698889
Nigga buying models counted according to an GW I visited.

And painting them. Chaos probably won more on the tabletop in a straight Imperial vs Chaos fight because Imperials tend to be casuals and 12 year olds, while pretty much any other faction requires a degree more commitment to the hobby... but when a game takes 2 hours, you end up with 1 win for Chaos while Billy Thickpaints gives the Imperium 2 points for his Primaris Paint job.

>>54698847
Ultra-lisk nid when?
>'fexes
Oops I mean broodlord nid when?
>every nid flyer
Uhhh... I mean ravager nids when?
>pyrovore

>>54698849
>IM THE MOST ELITEST AND BADASS AND FIGHTY
How is that not also the 'nids?

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>>54698877
BUT DO YOU HAVE RECEIPTS?

>>54698967
No because i hand sculpted all my orks and vehicles out of green stuff and plastic card

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>>54698921
>What are the chances of the Black Templar transfer sheets coming back?
>My guess is near zero. GW seems to have forgotten that any chapters other than Ultramarines exist.
I feel your pain brother. I desperately want those crusader seals.

And heck, does anyone know of anywhere ELSE that would sell something similar?

>>54698908
>Marine
>Marine in bigger armour
>Marine in a robot
>Marine in a tank/plane

Wow that's so much more imaginative than nids

>>54698928
HOW CAN ELDAR MEN EVEN COMPETE!?!

>>54698967
The incorrect depths in the pictures are quite jarring

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>>54698967
This is a good meme Brent
Orks deserve the bulli

>>54698909
they have many nerves in their ears, so they may be erotic zones, but we dont know for sure

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>>54698988
>Visarch's face as he stands guard outside Yvraine's quarters as she plays hide the 18" sausage with Bobby G

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>>54698981
>green stuff and plastic card
THOSE RECEIPTS WILL SUFFICE. PLEASE PRESENT.

>>54698987
>>54698908

>US military
>dude
>dude with longer gun
>dude in tank
>dude in floaty tank
>dude in boat

You can literally do this to anything

>>54698987
Imaginative? Maybe not.
Visually distinctive on a game table? Yes.

>>54699029
Somebody needs to do an army purely of soul grinders during the Konor campaign.

I dont have receipts for my Eldar because I stole the whole army from some little kid at the flgs, stripped and repainted them and then played them against him a few months later

>>54698987
>bug
>bigger bug
>biggest bug
>bug with wings

>>54699059
...why?

>>54699061
Cunning Eldar

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Has this week's mission for Konor been revealed yet?

>>54698600
Lol
You got things backwards

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SISTER

PLASTICS

WHEN

>>54699077
It would be funny

>>54698908
Iconic SM units

>Man in armor
>Man in armor with jet pack and sword
>Man in armor on bike
>Man with more armor
>Man with less armor
>Man in sarcohphagus in giant robot

Iconic Nid units
>Doglike bug with spikes
>Doglike bug with gun
>Flying doglike bug with gun
>Countless swarm of small bugs
>Fully bipedal armored bug with guns and swords
>Fully bipedal less armored bug with different geometry and claws
>Floating brains with vestial limbs and forcefields
>Giant praying mantis that turns invisible

There are some ideas revisited syre, but there's a lot MORE variation from nids than from Marines. I didn't even include Carnifexes or the centaur-like Guard strains.

>>54698985
There's designs around for BT transfers that you can have printed online

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So if a unit with two CCWs (let's say zerkers) that have chainswords and chain axes use their axes for all their attacks, do they then get to make their extra chainsword attacks despite not using the weapon? I had a friend try and argue this but it seems pretty Jewy, is there an FAQ or anything on this?

>>54699043
>Sister in power armour
Anything else?
No... the army has been the same for 2 decades

But has Penitent Engines and Exorcist the two most 40k models ever made. So that must count for something?

>>54699137
Yes, he gets a chainsword attack, and you're trying to Jew him out of it.

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>>54699130
Depends on if you have your receipt for them

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>Chaos UK/World are actually (barely) dominating their area
>Chaos EU is losing
>Chaos US is losing by large margin

AMERICANS CAN YOU FUCK OFF. You screwed us in the first planet and now are doing it again on this new one. Get your shit together!

Think thousand sons and death guard will be able to use some of these stratagems? Pretty sweet

>>54699137
Its says
>make additional attack using this profile
If saying just "make additional attack" he can use any weapon

>>54699120
Yes you can definitely argue that Tyranids have more variants

But the OP was that Tyranids are more DISTINCT which I'd definitely say goes to Marines.

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Klaws or Saws for Meganobz

>>54699156
>may make an additional attack WITH this weapon
But they didn't even use the weapon
I didn't start autistically screaming, I just asked if that's how it worked, said whatever, and now I'm trying to figure out the actual ruling

>>54699162
>freedom fries plays the faction where the emperor wasn't voted for
colour me surprised

>>54699162
Not enough people even play chaos in most regions.

>>54699162
Encourage the soul grinder army.

>>54699170
Put them under the Normie test.

Grab a bunch of models from different armies and games. Tell them to set them into different armies.
Marines always get mixed up with warmachine or infinity.

>>54699070
Nids have different body geometries, armor designs, and scales.

The only difference between tacticals, assaults, and devastators are what weapons they carry.

>>54699193
we almost won with xenos in the first round

>>54699179
They bear the weapon, the bearer gets 1 additional attack with it.

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>>54699183
The real question is when will the transcripts of the Emperor's phone calls get leaked?

>>54699170
Marines are easily one of the most generic, don't even start

>ripoff of starship trooper bugs and zergs
Yes I know the release order, compare beginning versus post zerg nid models
Nothing against nid players, but let us not pretend they are the paragon of being unique and interesting

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So, are Cataphractii Terminators useful for melee? They do have good saves, toughness and all that, and a squad of chainfisters could ruin someones day, but....halving their advance-roll seems a bit harsh for them. Can they compete with regular hammernators?

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>>54699178
How about RECEIPTS

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>>54699170
Marines are still pretty sodding boring though. Compare them to Admech, or Dark Eldar and they're homogenous as all hell, and those two factions aren't exactly getting the megasupport from Geedubs even if you include Forge World. Hell, even Marine LORE is boring in comparison, because it all boils down to RAAH MARINE SMASH. Admech, Orks, Deldar, Nids and any of the rest have a billion and one possible units to make in the future or for players to convert, Marines are so regimented and dull they have basically none, and have a bajillion kits for everything anyway so they'd never need to.

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>>54699205
Seems gay but I guess that's how it is, at least I didn't scream and stomp my feet during the game grinding it to a halt like some people do when there's a rules issue

>>54699170
They aren't though. If weapons are the only way you can distinguish your three most common units, then it's not the model that's distinctive.

If you left the arms off a fire support nid and an assault nid, a complete normie could tell that they were two entirely different units.

If you left the arms off a tactical squad and a devestator squad, would they be able to do the same?

>>54699221
No

>>54699221
short answer: no

long answer, they sacrifice too much for +1 invun. Their only saving grace over TH/SS termintors is that PF are now only 12 points

>>54699178
Klaws are good for when you want to shoot with your orks, also cheaper.

If going for a pure killy unit then all saws.

>>54699203
This. Hell even same-sized nids with similar roles are easily distinct from each other. No one's going to mix up a Genestealer and a Hormagaunt, or a Shrike and a Ravener.

Good job getting some normie to tell apart your Assault Marines from your Vanguard Veterans.

>>54699229
I think the whole thing with marines is a non sequitor, everyone knows marines are generic as fuck normie models, but the original argument is nids are unoriginal and overdone pop culture rip offs as well, one has nothing to do with the other or qualifies the other

>>54699178
If only one melee, Klaw, if two, saws.

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>>54699162
>Being surprised at this

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>>54699215
>ripoff of star wars stormtroopers and crusader knights
Yes I know the release order, compare beginning versus post terran marine models
Nothing against marine players, but let us not pretend they are the paragon of being unique and interesting

>>54699247
>if you leave the distinctive part off, they can't be distinguished

no shit you fucking idiot.

>>54699227
How about you kill yourself

>>54699290
>Sanguinius is some old commie jew

Triggered.

>>54699276
the post in question said "All nid models look the same".

>>54699276
Yeah this is a weird tangent
Originality aside, nid models are more distinct from one another then marines. Basically same as the zerg/bugs, you can easily tell different types apart. Marines are the worst for that. Aside from knights I guess?

>>54699295
You're proving his point that nids are more distinctive because the entire bodies and silhouettes are different, not just the guns.

Good job dumbass.

>>54699248
>>54699259
Well, shit. There go my dreams of dropping a squad of them and autistically scream "PREPARE THY ANUS FOR AN IMPERIAL CHAINFISTING!".
Guess they might be more useful babysitting an objective with the heavy flamer, storm bolters and all that.

>>54699292
Except I agree that marines are less distinct than nids and that marines really aren't all that unique an idea?
Congrats

>>54699327
>Imperium wins due to logistical superiority and Chaos infighting, despite Chaos being better 1 to 1
Seems about right to me.

>>54699327
>Chaos players trying to argue that they deserve the win when the results prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Imperium is far more popular and interesting to more people so them winning is more justified
You're just shooting yourself in the foot here

>>54699292
Holy shit fucking DESTROYED

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>>54699327
I think it's more that no one fucking play Chaos.

Shitty models, shitty rules (until the codex releases tomorrow and they become broken as fuck), and awful lore.


The event might as well be Imperium vs Xenos because chaos isn't really doing shit.

>>54699314
Neck yourself, he didn't prove anything.

>>54698784
GW only, or in newsagents etc?

>>54699355
>Imperium is far more popular
>contains 12 subfactions

>Chaos
>contains 4 subfactions

*excluding FW armies

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>>54699355
>popular = good
If you're acting retarded on purpose, kindly stop.

>>54699292
I thought starcraft 1 started as a 40k RTS before licencing issues caused everything to fall apart...

>>54699378
Xenos is what the people want

>>54699292
>>54699369
No need to samefriend friendo

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>Meganobz 55 points
>Terminators 40 points
????

>>54699327
I mean, that makes sense. Having far superior industrial and logistical capabilities has won a good few wars in real life even when the enemy has better individual soldiers, and the Imperials are fighting on a Forge World. If anything, it perfectly reflects how I would expect this to go.

(On a side note, I need to find a day to go to the GW and get points for my Ruststalkers. Been busy lately, but I think I'll have my Knight done for Lord of War week.)

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>join Reddit a few years ago
>get annoyed at how a sub will obsess over one or two topics for an entire day like say a 30 second game trailer and milk it and overanalyze it to death
>realize it's unhealthy and cringy to use that much brainpower on such minutia
>quit and delete account
>start shitposting on 4chan
>discover 40k autism with some friends
>discover /tg/
>go on 40k general and obsess over and hyperanalyze the minutia of the day or whatever GW teased
>mfw /40kg/ is plebbit

What should I do if my picks for favourite army fluffwise and gameplay-wise are different?

Necrons are my favourite in gameplay, but I love Dark Eldar fluff.

>>54699419
Marine players buy from GW.

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>>54699381
>he said Tyranid models are more distinctive
>(You) said NUH-UH MUH MREENS
>he says tyranids are still recognizable from each other even if you remove the arms holding guns, while marines arent
>(You) say HURR WELL NO SHIT IF YOU LEAVE THE DISTINCTIVE PART OFF THEYRE NOT DISTINCT
>(You) literally admitted the only distinctive part of space marines are the different guns while Tyranids all look completely different
>(You) literally objectively proved his argument
>F-FAGGOT HE DIDNT P-PROVE ANYHING
Ahahahaha what a fucking child

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If I played a heretical offshoot of the Silver Skulls, what god would they follow? The fact that they chop heads off gives me a Khorne vibe, but then they coat the skulls in silver and autistically etch the surface with designs and symbols telling the story of the battle, and that just screams Slaanesh.

>>54699302
>Insulting based Sanders
Better the Captain Commander Marmalade

>>54699430
>implying their autism is accurate

>>54699419
bullgryns are less expensive than termies and better in every way except for less melee weapon options and no teleportation

>>54699430
Same shit, different name. No matter how much the autists try and spin it.

>>54699430
Breaking news, people who like a thing will talk about the thing!


Holy shit you're a genius anon.

(you)

>>54699430
What are we obsessing about today, receipts?

>>54699433
Play both.

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>>54699419
>custodian 40points

>>54699444
Summer's almost over.

>>54699430
>acquire autism
>moment of clarity and break free
>discover newer and more potent form of autism
>moment of clarity
Break free now anon, while you sill can

Is this Kronos Campaign shit like Storm of Chaos?

>>54699444
Trips confirm. Marine weenies btfo.

>>54699450
>Obsessive about fate
>Will only go into battle if the prognostication is good

Obviously Tzeentch.

>>54699451

>"based" Sanders
>supported Chavez and Maduro
>tax people 90%
>your stuff doesn't belong to you
>the solution to corrupt govt is more government

I really wish I could just shoot all of you. Commies aren't people, they're things.

>>54699444
I mean at this point lets just say Daemons are the most distinct.

>But that's more about the lack of options than anything. 1 Battle Slot per God

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>>54699292
I now know why starcraft fags always use that dark image of the hydralisk to try and prove GW copies from the. Because it hides the round head and ridges on top of the head, similar (though more exaggerated) to the old tyranid warriors. Then GW made their warriors have carapace crown and suddenly SC2 hydralisks have those as well.

>>54699468
Are there jump pack Custodes?

>>54699484
True, but they don't have their voodoo librarian anymore, and SS aren't really known for any psykers besides him.

Still, guess it could work.

>>54699494
CSM really need a 2h power sword character or something. The lack of 2h swords in 40k is actually surprising.

>>54699475
>literally ran out of arguments so hard he resorts to summerposting
Thanks for the keks m8!

>>54699510
In 30k maybe. It was complete legion at heresy

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>>54698877

>he thinks that is too many

>>54699530
>he finks dats enuff

>>54699527
What? I'm a different anon, consoling you that his kind will almost be gone.

>>54698337
literally just found some, i can tell you that i did not wait

guys i dont understand how to do these allies in 8th. is it possible to take these psykers and inquisitors in a IG detachment? what about using SOB with inquisition in their detachment? what about ALL THREE. or do they all have to be seperate detachments?

>>54699530
Image earthshake

>>54699530
>Huge clusterfuck of models
>99% are painted
>Only thing unpainted at a glance is terrain
Keep being based Ork players

>>54698650
>Gcult player projecting insecurities
Having masses of genestealers plus broodlords charge your shit is no laughing matter. Naturally the tourney fags cherry pick the best units from both books, and no one said pure gcult anyway

So go fuck yourself

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Help me out /tg/ - I have a Death Guard army (some marines, 5 termies+lord, hellturkey, daemon prince, a rhino, a rhino/pred, 3 oblits, 2 hellbrutes and 5 raptors/warp talons).

The thing is I have an urge to finally build a Jugger Lord like I always wanted. He's gonna be accompanied by some spawn and 10 (for now) zerkers - blood warriors conversion.

Here's the kicker: the two tanks(a rhino and a rhino/pred), two hellbrutes and 5 raptors/warp talons (unbuilt yet) are all unpainted...
Which things should I paint as Death Guard, and which as World Eaters?

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>>54699494
Your stupidity knows no bounds.

>>54699450
I think the real question is why a SM chapter has a Deathjester as their chapter symbol.

>>54699458
>3 S7 Ap-1 D2 attacks on a 2+ save OR 4++ T5 3W platform
Vs
>2 S8 Ap-3 D3 attacks on a 2+ save AND 3++ T4 2W platform
I wouldn't say they were better in every way by any metric, there's a large number of units either one would be better against.

>>54699503
Yep.

Basically this proves that Zerg copied Tyranids, while new Primaris Marines copied Starcraft.

Nids 2 Marines 0

>>54699478
Konor started with chaos blown the fuck out now it's more of a match from what I can tell. But yes mentioning it can cause autistic screeching.

>>54699528
Well, ten thousand guys minus Webway casualties. That's about one army division IIRC, so enough to bodyguard even in huge battles like that Ork horde that Emps pulled Morty+co out of, and special ops but probably not enough to fight a war. They'd get Nuked From Orbit or stalled by swarms of chaff and shelled to bits.

I will admit those Jump Custodes look dope, though. They need models for those, make them glasscannony 6++ Custodes but with jump packs and flamers.

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>>54699558
I know its much of them at ebay but its hard to find them at reasonable price (not fukken 10 man box) and its metal. Why FW dont produce this style packs?

>>54699549
Ah, fair enough m8, sorry about that! I thought he just couldn't drop the argument.

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>>54699327
>>turns out chaos was actually curbstomping the imperium on the table all this time

>>54698376
If you get lucky you can pick up 2 talons of the emperor boxes

>>54699608
Even if they are it just proves that their rules are overpowered and they need nerfs.

>>54699530
are you the warboss that use M3 Lee as battletruks ?

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>>54699178

Saws. Always saws. +1 attack is insanely valuable on MANZ and 2 static damage beats D3, not to mention that Ap-4 lets you throw them at anything in the game and carve it into little pieces.

Plus the Kromlech Killsaw models are just about the most awesome thing to ever exist, so there's that too.

How do Heavy Plasma Incinerators hold up as vehicle killers?

10 dudes standing still, overcharged with a Captain to hold their hands. S9, D2, AP -4.

>>54698376
I figured out which faction I wanted to play by playing through all the DoW1 games. And thus I fell for Orks. You should try the same and see what you like.

>>54699430
I had this same experience when I joined exclusively to keep ipdated with fallout 4 hype, cringe memes, cringe fan theories, and obsessing over every little bone Bethesda threw, I can only imagine how the 40k community is over there

>>54699635
(you)

>>54699600
I think the 8th ed rulebook says they're at 10,000 still. So who did Emps tell how to make them?

>>54699468
>40pts
>can't deepstrike
>can't take more than 5 per squad if you want a transport

>>54699510
Nope. There's jetbike custodes tho

>>54699574
Hey, you were the one who said that it was Cult Ambush that let Gcults take top. I'm telling you that CA is mostly garbage and it was being able to take units from two better indexes that let them win.

I mean, you literally just listed Broodlord and genestealers, which are different and cost significantly less than a Patriarch and Purestrains, despite being just as good. And then you went on to say "When I said that Gcult cheesy deployment let them win, I didn't actually mean Gcult at all."

So you can stay assravaged, my friend.

>>54699379
>>54699400
>implying GW should make a decision that caters to the small niche subset of their overall fans instead of one that caters to the maximum number of people
The fact that you get points for painting models does in fact prove it IS a popularity contest. Maybe Chaos would win if you guys convinced more people to play Chaos. As it stands the side that deserves to win is winning, and the fact that Chaos has higher tournament rankings despite having less players proves that they're OP and will probably be nerfed soon.

Get gud.

>>54699659
>So who did Emps tell how to make them?
The labs still exist in the palace. They never forgot how to make them it's just a more difficult / time consuming process compared to making marines

Just got into the game, bought the Dark Imperium box, decided to play marines.... but can't decide on a chapter. The set really seems made for Ultramarines, but I have no interest in playing those. Was thinking Black Templars because they look easy to paint and have interesting lore, but I've been told the primaris marines aren't great for them... Help me pick a chapter plz

>>54699667
> you want a transport
> when you have 3++
But i dont understand this "no deepstrike for you"

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>>54699603
once you have one, rip it appart and recast them.
(btw the one in the bottom is so fucking rare, for a reason no one like 2xclaws back then)

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>>54699378
I'd be interested if even one of their most basic infantry choices was from this decade.

I mean, I guess there's raptors, but you get my point. The csm range overall is just so old. Really needs some fresh blood at its core.

As it is, if you aren't one of the two chosen legions, sucks to be you. I still can't believe they had the rocks to link to their ancient ass havocs in their community article as if anyone is going to use those fucking things. God, how many space marine heavy weapon units have come out since those?

>>54699576
If you have death guard and world eaters going I'm almost tempted to advise you paint the raptors and helbrutes as Night Lords. If you bring night lords raptors with a nurgle banner, two night lords helbrutes, the chaos spawn and that bell guy from death guard you're looking at giving anyone they are fighting an insane -6 to their leadership. Mix that with your juggerlord zerker deathball and your hard to kill death guard and you've got something really disgusting going on

>>54698415
Wow are Death Guard really that bad? I started playing them and won my only game with them.

>>54699488
>Hyperbole and false information
Riveting

>>54699692
Don't pick a faction based on rules, since those will change. If you like templars, play templars

>>54698269
>>54695974
Plastic steel legion was mentioned in stream
Necromunda is the best guess for the pistol now the imperial jet bike is out the way

>>54699407
Completely untrue.

>>54699707
Tournament lists are not about what is bad and what is good, they are about what is best in that specific meta and everything else is not best and loses.

>>54699689
Ah right, thought it was that the Emperor made each one out of necessity. Seems making custards was just his hobby then

>>54699716
>the imperial jet bike
What?

>>54699707
Death Guard have placeholder rules right now, they'll be much better when the Codex comes out.

>>54699697
Ive seen then selling only as full 5 man squad

>>54699681
>OP
>no snipers
>everything is expensive except cultists
>some good chaos players perform in tournament
>"OMG GW NERF KAOS NAOW!"

>>54698269
>having (finally) destroyed Cadia,
GW confirmed for savage

>>54699571
Ork players by far have the highest ratio of painted models

>>54699713
He literally praised breadlines.

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>>54699742
>itc results
>in anyway proof that CSM are actually winning konor in games.
Dumb cheetahposter

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>>54699583
>primaris marines
>literally tall marines with elements of their armour lifted from marinelet armour marks (MkIV helmet, MkIII grieves, etc.)
>total copies of starcraft

Dual gun jump troops are nothing new, Sisters had them in 2e, and just about every Marine jump pack has had two jets on them. I don't remember anyone accusing GW of copying starcraft when they made twin-flamer centurions. Fabius Bile had instruments on his backpack since he was introduced. Redemptor is just a big dreadnought, which have existed since early days of 40k. All the Nurgle stuff has existed as long as well, they even paid homage to original plague marine designs with the MkIII suits with MkII helmets on them. As for the bloat-drone, pic related, it's from Rogue Trader era as well.

>>54699758
I'm pretty sure that was what we refer to as "loyalist tears" lol

>>54699742
How has 8th been treating you cheetah anon? A month ago you said you were having a blast with your admec if I recall correctly, get any new models?

>>54699221
A squad with fists, bolts and a chainfist on the sarge does well, as does max claws. Max claws doesn't have the flexibility, but murderates things (deploy with landraider)
Max chainfists isn't really that useful, since you are only getting ap4 and static 2 damage over ap3 1d3 damage fists that cost 10 less.

>>54699316
Ignore the minmaxers

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>>54699637

Yep

>>54699433
>love deldar fluff
So anon, got any good slave torture/rape porn?

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>>54699758
>still buying into the snipers meme

>>54699781
>GWIDF INBOUND ON OUR POSITION

>>54699811
Orktramuhrines

I picked up a box of assassins and will be working on them this weekend. How best are they played?

I'm thinking sniper and shape shifter on strong infantry (one ranged one close). Junkie on weak infantry, and blank just get in range of their strongest psyker. That sound right?

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>>54699675
>Replied to save face, whats left of it
Sure thing WAAC fag

>>54699692
The BT fan base is split, half see primaris as an insult towards the Emperors vision and half see Guillmans return as a second coming and dont question his implementation of the primaris, you can look at it either way but I highly recommend researching the basic gameplay behind BT as crusader squads function much differently than normal tactical squads and are a defining unit for them

>>54699751
In my contry there's been some problem with delivrery (not sure that is english) but some old raptor can go for 150 $ on our equivalent of ebay, so im waiting a lot for the 5 that is just bought for ~50$

>>54699817
>my ruse doesn't work
>better call them GWIDF
>that should do the trick

Look, if you're gonna accuse GW of copying shit, at least have a good argument. "It has turbines, just like starcraft!" is not very good, because I could just as well accuse starcraft of lifting their design from the stormbird.

>>54699834
BT... Booty Troubled?

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Post store results, despite their codex buff marines are dead in the water at the minute, with only Xenos (mainly tau) holding them up. But only 11 games have been played so who knows how this will develop later in the week, will the new codex bring new players into the fold.
>>54699825
IVE BEEN LOOKIN FOR YOU

>>54699811
You're magnificient anon, keep up the good work

>>54699849
ITC results aren't in anyway related to konor. At most you can say that "chaos is strong" which would explain why they aren't being completely and utterly curb stomped. Without direct evidence that chaos has more actual wins in Konor, you're just talking out of your ass like you always do.

>>54699879
yes, the booty troubled black templars

Are they actually doing new guard models?

>tfw 100 guardsmen deep in Cadians

>>54699879
Black templars
They need to die in holy fire for their sins

>>54699830
What the hell are you on about cheetanon? Some dumbass said Cult Ambush was what let GSC win, I corrected him and said that it was GSC abusing their ability to mix the best of Nids and IG.

What about that is in any way Waac?

>>54699802
Well, the points might be a reason to just go with regular fists. But the 1D3 roll might ruin my day, over the D2 of the chainfists. Guess I'll just magnetize them, and/or get more of them.

>>54698415
>tyranids had thhe second most games played
>the fucking space locusts did better than the space marines
>what a time to be alive

>>54699742
To be fair, using some tourney with houserules results as a baseline for what's happening with 40k is far from the truth of anything, save the number of fags per square inch you can fit in a space.

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>>54699886
>Post store results
okay

>>54699895
This 'zerkers try to cosplat thousand sons?

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>>54699911
>Still replying
Like Pottery

>>54699895
>using bloodbound rather than FW sculpts
>not even slightly changing the rock grinder ram
>undivided FW doors
>weapons aren't chained to the wrist
Wew lad

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Have you guys been working on anything for fate of konor?

Been working on this, windshield isn't glued jn

>>54699905
On stream they said mordians, so who knows might just be a store celebration model

>>54699713

"false" information, eh?

>venezuela
http://www.libertynewsdaily.com/blog-929-flashback:-bernie-sanders-praised-socialist-venezuela-as-model-for-ending-income-inequality

>90% taxes
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Bernie-Sanders-tax-wealthy-90-percent/2015/05/27/id/647105/

>your stuff isn't yours
this is the crux of all redistributionist tripe

>more gov't
what's it called when you raise taxes and expand entitlement? oh yeah, more gov't

You're a real dumb piece of shit, you know that?

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>>54699886

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>>54699886
WHOOOOOO!!

Whoever rolls penta decides what army gets squatted

>>54699936
>Xenos cockblocks chaos
THINGS SHALL GET LOUDA NOW
>>54699952
Doing some terminators ATM

>>54699918
If you are keen on fighting things with a 3+ save and no invul, then chainfists obliterate them, especially things like primaris which have two wounds. You ignore their save completely.
Fists on the other hand give them a 6+, can do less but can do more damage, and cost 10 less points. That 50 points saved from a 5 man squad. It adds up.
However captain in cataphractii armor? Chainfist always.

>>54699895
Wow. That looks... pretty shit, desu.

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>>54699936
The only reason mine has so many points for Chaos is because the entire Chaos side packed up and left as soon as the last turn ended, so the store manager had to guess.

>>54699988
Space marines

>>54699302
>taking political cartoons this seriously

>>54700001
>The only reason mine has so many points for Chaos is because the entire Chaos side packed up and left as soon as the last turn ended, so the store manager had to guess.
I want to know more

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>>54698301
This.

I'm brand new to everything Warhammer, so as far as painting aspirations go I simply want to get to a point where they won't look like complete shit.

Theorycrafting a list for my next army.
Night Lords
Outrider Detachment
HQ:
Chaos Lord, Jump Pack, Claws
FA:
2x Raptor Squad, Mark of Nurgle, Icon of Despair, Champion with Chainaxe+Combiplasma, 2 Plasmas 2 Boltgun+Chainsword
1 Warp Talon x5 squad

Vanguard Detachment
HQ
Sorcerer in TDA, Force Axe, Combi Melta
5 Terminators 5 Combi Melta + Chainfist
5 Terminators 5 Combi Plasma+ Power Axe.

1 Helbrute Dual lascannon+Hammer

Could it work? I'm kinda new to chaos and want something both fluffy and usable.
Main idea is just deepstrike everything and melt shit on shooting phase.

>>54699952
I bought a second hand Carnifex for like 10 ameribux. I'm stripping him right now, also the guy gave me 5 random GSC dudes and I'm really not sure what to do with them

>>54699980
So when are the marine babies waking up, or did they spend all their money in the first week

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>>54699971
>Coming to a board about plastic minis to vomit your political views because no one irl will listen to your dribble and /pol/ scares you too much
I'm calling up your mom to disconnect your internet until you think about what you're doing

>>54698360
Salamander... though those are open topped, iirc.

Fuck yeah
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Vehicle-Upgrade-Frame-2017

>>54699971
lel

>>54699703
Sounds really cool gameplay-wise... Huh, my gut reaction was to say NL are 3edgy5me, but now that I think about it I might be really cool to have more Legions represented...
>my DP is painted as BL anyways

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>>54700012
Semi-Apoc game spanning 2 tables instead of little matches.

The entire Chaos/Xenos team pretty much left the moment the game ended instead of recording scores.

>>54699969
>Plastic Mordians

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

>>54700039
Neat

I gotta ask since im starting a guard army, tuaroxes or valkyries? Both seem pretty even in abilities

>>54700039
Is that a single sprue for like 5 different armies?