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Third Party Abaddon Edition

>Black Legion Faction Focus: Meh
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/04/legion-focus-black-legion-aug4gw-homepage-post-2/

>Konor Campaign: Astaramis was an inside job!
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>Check your local store's contribution
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/

>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf & epub, SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>Other megas
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing Abaddon's work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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meme
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Was it just memeing on the stream when they were talking Alpha Legion or not?

They said something to the effect of: when Alpha Legion warlord dies, you can swap him for another character and it doesn't count for slay the warlord.

Also something about them getting a random chapter tactic.
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Any pics of nuGuard models from Twitch? Are they cool looking
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>>54695729
no I think it was serious
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>>54695729
That's "Many Heads of the Hydra". A very fluffy rule they got in Traitor Legions back in 7th. I'm happy to see it back because it transitions to 8th ed. Perfectly. Basically it just makes getting "Slay the Warlord" VP against Alpha Legion extremely difficult.
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>>54695709

so do stores let you use 3rd party models in place of the official one, or are they super anal about that for wargames?
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>>54695729
That is an ability Alpha Legion has in 30k, think its called something like Many Heads of The Hydra.
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>>54695761
Chadguard confirmed marinelets btfo once again!
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>>54695773
The CULTIST CHAMPION was the Warlord the whole time!
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you Yiffs, and your wolf too!
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>>54695780
Depends on the store in question. An official GW would probably have slight problems with you using non-GW models, but most FLGS shouldn't have any problems with it as long as the model is clearly identifiable.
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>>54695794
When will they learn?
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>>54695780
Official GW stores are anal as fuck. Most others don't give a shit. YMMV
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>Abaddon gets 1 less CP bonus than Girlyman

Because of course he fucking does
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>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/03/incoming-transmission-b50-ap78903mh-aug-3gw-homepage-post-4/

So do we know, what the fuck it is? Armageddon Steel Legion? Adeptus Titanicus? Necromunda?
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>GK can give any unit DS for 1 cp and +2 on an invul for another

wew, also they're going over the CSM strats soon
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>>54695822
FLGS won't give a shit as long as you give them SOME business.
Doesn't have to be everything, but if you are using their space you should give something.
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Grey Knight Chaplains confirmed on stream.
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>>54695780
This is my stores rules
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On stream Chaos used 1 CP to give his hellbrute +1 to armour save.

Cool.
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>>54695849
What do they look like
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>>54695780
My FLGS is in love with my retarded joke army.

Guess the South America gets less trigger about tits and bad paintjobs than the rest of the world
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>>54695839
Armageddon steel legion are the new imperial guard models
Necromunda is confirmed at this point, the gun seems to be off either an arbites generic or a remake of some metal character from necromunda, like how the deathwatch captain was originally an inquisitor model
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>>54695849
Why do the incorruptible need chaplains.
Give the re roll buff to brotherhood champions.
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>>54695838
>the armless chaoslet get blown out again!
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>>54695880
>so reasonable until
>no FW
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>>54695780
LGS's policy is that they're saddened when you choose other retailers but accept it (willing to experiment when needed, such as putting a 20% discount on 40K during the dark days of 7th), and if they can't/won't sell the product in question they don't care period. Shit, they assume all FW products are recasted because that's what they do now.
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>>54695889
No model yet, but there are rules for them.
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>>54695880
is this a GW store or flgs?
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Objective secured confirmed for CSM.

Dark Raiders Trait (For Red Corsairs etc): Advance and Charge.
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>>54695897
Thanks doc.
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>>54695912
Same reason they needed blood wards to prevent them falling to chaos despite no GK ever falling to chaos, but they will fear Crowe for possibly falling to chaos for wielding a daemon weapon
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>>54695838
>Waaa, my failure of a husbando isn't as good as one of the most strategic minds in the galaxy
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>>54695921
FW is just fucking awful in recent times
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>>54695907
I'm hard right now.
Necromunda and Guard models!

Still no SoB but hey! Better than fucking marine again
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>>54695930
Gamesworkshop
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>>54695880
no fw is silly, why everyone hates it? i just want to play my kriegers.
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>>54695912
The original purpose of chaplains, maybe?
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How many Reivers should I take anons?
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>>54695930
For a FLGS it would be quite anal...
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>>54695880
>no FW
It means no 30k? Shit store
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>>54695880
Some good, some retardedly cancer. Shit store with undoubtably ultra faggy store keepers.
4/10 shit in their toilet and don't flush. Then leave
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>>54695930
i think tha'ts a gw store since they don't sell forgeworld. i think regualr FLGS can order from fw but not sure. i thought GW stores could sell fw stuff but you had to wait on it to show up at the store. i cold be wrong.
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>>54695880

Is this bait? The "rage quitting" one is absurd both because you shouldn't try to hold people to stay against their will, and because throwing games against complete douches who won't let the game be fun is kinda important.

And the Forge World one? Directly against company policy, if this isn't made up as bait you should report them to head office.
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>>54695907
Sauce
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>>54695947
Too much marines, not enough guard, not enough traitor guard. I understand why, but still.

Also, I am still waiting for mythical Fires of Cyraxus. I would also love if they make a new editions of classic IA campaigns.
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>>54695880
Nothing in there about not being stinky.

You'd think it wouldn't need to be a rule but it does. It very much does.
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>>54695958
Zero and get 9 Arco-Flagellants with a priest in a rhino instead.
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Demon Shells: Combi bolter, bolt pistol etc, 1 command point. If you hit, you do D3 mortal wounds. If you miss, you take d3 mortal wounds.
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>>54695907
I feel like snorting salt, but I want to believe!
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>>54695966
Which means no 30kucks

Brilliant store
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>>54695955
Stores hate it because HURR NO PURCHASES
Players hate it because DURR BROKEN SHIT
Buyers hate becaise HURR EXPENSIVE
China hates it because DURR STOP SUPPORTING THE INDUSTRY AND GIVE ME YOUR MONEY
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>>54695889
in the WD they used the limited edition one. They also used the regular captain model as a GK captain
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>>54695998
We Kriegers are masochistic cunts.
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>>54695998
> BROKEN SHIT
Dat is good baitu
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>>54695931
Solid. Especially for bikers.
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>>54695963
I was expecting GW rules to be even more anal than this.
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I don't see the appeal of FW now, their models are shit compared to CAD plastics.

You see that new Blood Ravens Chapter Master? Holy fuck that thing is awful.

There was definitely a time when FW was incredible compared to stock GW stuff but that time is gone now.
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>>54695998
Piracy is a problem of service.
Retarded prices for mediocre quality products is part of the service problem.

Does this make it ok to recast? Hell no, but blaming the recaster for shitty services is kind of stupid
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WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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>>54695998
It's so dumb that idiots think FW stuff has broken rules given that GW can't properly balance their own games and retards focus on FW stuff out of jealousy that they can't afford it.
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>>54695955
Play guard.
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>>54695998
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>>54696025
WE WANT TO KNOW MORE!
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Been travelling for work and haven't had any time to play yet.
How do Dark Eldar hold up this edition so far? Especially Haemonculus-related models?
And how are Tau, assuming I don't want a commander spam?
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>>54695986
Fuck, yeah...I remember one of the LGS in my area actually put up a flyer reminding people playing in their store to please remember basic hygiene because it got to a point where you basically couldn't play in that store in summer anymore...
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>>54696025
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>>54695986
Sad fact. We had a FLGS who had to have that rule posted on the door.
As a gamer, this always confused me. How fucking hard is it to stay clean? Just shower, wear clean clothes and use deoderant, you degenerates.
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>daemon shell (1CP)
>if hit with a bolt pistol/gun/combibolter, do D3 mortal wounds
>if miss, take D3 mortal wounds
I think, was slightly zoned out then suddenly realised they were saying interesting shit.

>something (1CP)
>give a unit a mark of chaos

>something else (1CP)
>vehicle ignore move penalties for heavy weapons

>chaos boon (1CP)
>if kill a character, roll on a chart (2D6)

>VOTLW (1CP)
>unit gets +1 to wound for shooting or fight phase
>doesn't apply to renegades (obviously)

>1CP (tzeentch)
>get to use one more power at end of psychic phase

>something about bringing in cultist unit 6" from board edge

>linebreaker, kill shot, flakk missile
>as SM codex

>daemonforge
>daemon vehicle reroll to hit and to wound in shooting/fight phase

>spell familiar
>change a spell from dark hereticus

>alpha legion (1CP)
>deploy one unit in shadows and deep strike
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>>54696013
FW offers superiors alternative for certain parts of the range and neat vehicles, especially larger ones. It also offers an easy way to efficiently buy official weapons bits.
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>>54696031
It is Guard. At least the army looks different unlike the marine stuff that if you are lucky have different paint job to tell you are playing against something differnet than other 90000 identically looking marines
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>>54695986
Seriously, what the fuck is it with TCG and tabletop gamers?

Why are so many of them fat and stinky?

I walked into a GW recently and I had to inform the employee, "dude it is like a locker room in here, either that or you guys are fermenting cheese." The pungent aroma fucking backhanded me in the nose as soon as I crossed the threshold.
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Are there any tough, slow, melee-focused armies? Like unstoppable juggernaut style?
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>>54696013
I agree that they've been surpassed recently but they do make lots of great shit for customization as well as some cool vehicles that just wouldn't otherwise exist
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>>54696065
The gift one is called Blessing of the Dark Gods, and the other one is Blasphemous Machine

Also MURDERSWORD IS BACK MOTHERFUCKERS
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Help, Godhammer or Crusader ?
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So, is Abaddon getting a new model or not?
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>>54696062
Political correctness is what happen.
Here in SA we just tell the fat smelly bastard to fuck off and shower.
Even throw him money to pay for the shower in the gas station.
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Fluffwise what kind of heavy support should i use for my word bearer army? Daemon engines? So far all i have is a Maulerfiend.
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CURSED CROZIUS UP IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER
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>>54696076
Run nothing but Bullgryn and something as an HQ choice like some kind of Space Marine captain or a Tank Commander. Bullgryn are T5, 3W, 2+ save with big Mauls that do S7 -1AP D2.

Footslogging Custodes is also a good option for this.

Tyranids are also a great option for this.
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>>54696084
What's the worst is that FW feels like they hand a lot of stuff to an intern lately

This shit looks like the last thing that Iron warriors would have, its far too ornate
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>>54695709
So how would everyone do the Squats? I remember 1d4chan made a codex with some fluff & homebrew weapons but I'm not sure.
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>>54696101
In theory you could use anything, Dark Apostles tend to use what 'works', if you wanted to follow a theme, I'd go for defilers and havocs, demon engines and infantry heavy.
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>>54696076
You can run Nids that way. Also Haemonculus Coven.
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>>54696113
This helmets looks cool
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>>54696113
Probably worn by the cool 10% of IW decimated by Perty.
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>>54696113
I always assumed that that was specifically for mkiv and it kind of visually makes sense there, but iron warriors should be mkiii and mkii when I made mine I used some of the death guard torsos
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>>54696076
sounds boring as fuck to play against.
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>>54696113
Don't lose your waaaaay
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>>54696076
18 chaos termies with combi-plasmas and power axes and icon of Khorne
Abbadon
Sorc in termie armor with sword/stave and combi-plasma
30 cuiltists
At least its fun to crush enemies
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Dark Hereticus New: Death Hex, 8 to cast cast. Enemy unit within 12" can't take invulnerable.
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>>54696104
> Footslogging Custodes
1 squad army? What will be hq?
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>>54695783
Many Heads.. is the 7th ed traitor legions trait, 30k is Mutable Tactics which you just choose a special rule from a list that applies to the army for the rest of the game, like Tank Hunter or Scout.
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>>54696065
>>daemonforge
>>daemon vehicle reroll to hit and to wound in shooting/fight phase

!!!
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>>54696114
M5" WS4+ BS 4+ S4 T4 1W 1A Ld5-6 Sv4+
Grudge:
>When a unit of Squats shoots at an enemy that targeted them last turn add +1 To Hit.

Book of Grudges
>Any time you lose a model in the Morale phase add 1 Grudge Point. 3 Grudge Points can be tradeded in for a Command Point.
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Hey fellow archons. So right now I'm running 800 points of dark eldar. Should I swap GE 3 reavers I'm running for 8 carbine scourges (or 7 and one lance/blaster)?
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>>54695907
It's Kal Jerico.
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>>54696214
I can only get so erect!
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>>54696206
I guess to clarify, I wrote that badly and it's shooting OR fight phase, not both (though I guess you could use it again). But still pretty damn good IMO.
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>>54696193
You can use anything since they are Imperium. Could use a Grey Knight terminator character or Space Marine Terminator character.
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>>54696193
Take something like a TDA inquisitor
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>>54696231
But i need something in custodes theme
>>54696237
> TDA
Whats this?
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>>54696247
>Whats this?

Terminator.
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>>54696247
They don't have an HQ so make due with the SM or GK characters in termie armor. You can even do a count as thing, like saying it's a Custodes HQ with the model, but on paper it's SM/GK.
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>>54696214
We sincerly hope so. But what is the skullaquilla?
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>>54696207
Suddenly I'm curious what weapons should Squats use. Grav-weapons, some offshoot of plasma or flamers, red-hot heat axes like a Zaku II's, etc.
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>>54695907
Plastic steel legion has been a rumor for over 10 years.
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>>54696262
It's not a skull. It's an aquilla with two standard-issue guardsman ceramite balls.
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>>54696208
>waacfag asking for waacfag help
Your first mistake was playing dark eldar faggot
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>>54696272
Alongside the Primarchs, GSC and Skitarii. So fingers crossed.
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>>54695780
My GW store has a nice policy regarding 3rd party models.
If the model and the army is mostly GW, then some 3rd party parts are fine, as are models that arent easily recognizes as 3rd party models. If someone claims that your 3rd party models are 3rd party, then you need to claim that they arent, they are just heavily converted.

Of course 3rd party models are still forbidden, but if you follow this rules, then we`ll close an eye or two.

>>54695970
GW employee here, our company policy doesnt mention FW a bit, at least not as far as i know.
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>>54696272
Along with plastic SoB
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>>54696275
Is it alike how Khornates love putting a rotated DK all over the place?
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>>54696291
What about 3rd party plastic SoB?
Is not like you actually sell those
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>>54696284
>WAAC
>DEldar
U wot
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>turning 2 shots into 1 shot at -1 to hit so you can get an extra d6 worth of movement
BRAVO
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>>54696247
TDA = tactical dreadnought armour aka terminator armour
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>>54696264
I'd go for some clouding weapons
S3 AP0 30" Rapid Fire 1 - Overheat

Overheat
>Enemy units that have suffered one or more Wounds by a weapon with this ability have its AP increased(?) by 1 until the start of this player's next Shooting Phase. AP-2 becomes AP-1, AP-1 becomes AP0.
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Where my cronbros at?
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>>54696305
Well, it depends, if they look like real sisters, if you claim they are and if you are otherwise a good customer than it may be fine.
You should try to stop other people from touching them so that they wont notice that they arent real.
If people find out that you play a 3rd party army then we need to act surprised, give the victory to your enemy and tell you to remove them from our store or be banned, after all we dont want trouble with Nottingham.
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>>54695709

Chaos Warrior: Cyphera, the Fallen
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if your Imperial Fists aren't blonde, are they even Imperial Fists?
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>>54696208
Is it worth losing my T5 W2 tar pit for the deepstriking firepower? I already have anti tank covered for the most part with a ravager, a raider, and a trueborn blaster venom.
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>>54695956
Enforcing the Edict of Nikea? Sure, the GK should get right on that.
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>>54696379
Once those new guardsmen or SoB show up Im sure I'll support!

Unless you go Primaris prices with the new Guard, because there is a limit im willing to pay for my addiction
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>>54696291
My GW is similar. They don't care that much as long as more than half the model is GW model. I have one full 3rd party Commissar model that I've used once around an employee, but he wasn't thrilled. I have yet to use it around the manager, but he's a bit more strict and gets annoyed quicker by other stuff. He works really hard to make sure the shop is earning a lot of money, so he gets pretty bothered by conversions from kits that weren't bought there and people who bring in majority FW armies.
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>>54696406

fuck off /pol/
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>>54696425
>getting annoyed of people buy company products
What?
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>>54695880
This all depends on how strictly they are enforced. I mean, I have 3rd party sentinels with some GW bits on them. They're clearly open-topped bipedal walkers armed with large machine guns and shoulder missiles (aka. scout sentinels with autocannons and HK missiles), so is that a no-go or does it fall under "conversion"? What if it's a total 3rd party model, but clearly a big armoured space man with a large caliber pistol and a sword?

Also, FW one is retarded. Because they don't sell them, you can't use them? Then does that mean I can't use any minis that I didn't buy in the store or is it just that I'm not advertising for the store with my models?

Must feel great to have FW resin tartaros models that you can't use, while the other dude with plastic GW tartaros get to play all day.

>>54695966
Naw, man. It just means no FW 30k models. So enjoy 40k Marines pretending to be Heres Horusy.
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Is it good idea to give shields to all custodes in squad and make it max size? I want spears only guys and maybe guy with vexilia for A buff
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>>54696420
>Psychic Chaplains are enforcing the Edict of Nikea

Seems like there are some self-hating Witches if you ask me.
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>abaddon wipes out an entire 10-man GK strike squad in a single round of combat
Brutal.
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>>54696445
I mean getting bothered by people who don't buy there but show up to play there. And also doesn't like FW because he can't sell it there.
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>Grey Knights codex article
>Still nothing about 'Brotherhood Traits' or something retarded like that

Where's that Anon who was utterly convinced GK would get special trait rules for each of the brotherhoods ? I was hoping we'd get a hilarious rant out of him how GW lied and betrayed his trust or something.
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This is a billion times better than the shit GW shits out. Holy fuck. I think I'm going to refrain from wargaming as it looks autistic and boring, and just collect cool minis and paint 'em.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoqhEkCr83g
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>They're rereleasing Imperial Armour 1
>Then 2
>Then 3
>Then 4
>...

Fires of Cyraxus fucking never.
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>>54696065
Bretty good for the most part.
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>>54696469
>over designed garbage
>better
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>>54696445
If they're not buying from him then the shop won't look very good. Bad sales obviously lead to a bad time.
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>>54696367
What up my brother from another Dynasty?

>'Cron Question of the Thread: Why do fleshbags even bother?

Only Necron answers please.
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>>54696420
Anon, they existed before then.

They might have had different names, like the Wardens the Blood Angels had, but they did things like mentoring.
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>>54696406
Fists recruit from a huge number of different worlds.
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>>54696486

t. gw employee
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>>54696445
The store needs you to buy from them so that they can hit their numbers, if you're not doing that they're not making money, and their District Manager or whatever isn't going to look kindly on that
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>>54696495
Exactly. So they could look like this if from a sunny world.
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>>54696465
Eh. I think we maganged to convince him at the time by quoting the community article.
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>>54696406
Dorn wasn't blonde. Are you trying to say our Primarch was not an Imperial fist ? Sounds like some serious HERESY ....

I will report this to the Chaplain. Hope you didn't have any appointments, because you will be enduring the purifying agony of the pain glove for the foreseeable future ...
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>>54696463
>>54696489
So GW can't sell FW?
What is this kangaroo logic of business?!
It would be like gun store only selling bullets because they can't have non store made guns. Except FW is from GW for fuck sake!

Why!?
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>>54696367

Right here. Enjoying getting owned in every fucking game that I'm forced to advance on an enemy... That's GW!
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>>54695897
> South America
Ugh. Third world please go. This /1stworld/ board
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>>54696465
>Where's that Anon who was utterly convinced GK would get special trait rules for each of the brotherhoods

What a fool. Only factions with <FACTION> are getting mini faction bonus rules.

I mean it would be a neat way to give GKs an alternative play style... but seriously lol
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>>54696522
Well it's not the same company exactly. It's owned by Games Workshop, but it's not directly Games Workshop. So they don't sell FW products there, they just get a piece of the business pie in the grand scheme of things.
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Abaddon is badass
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>>54696501
>everyone who disagrees with me is a shill
The GW abby model is far far far far far from the best models they've ever put out, but it's better than that over designed crap.
>you know what we need? Chains, and skulls and swirling fire stuff everywhere! All over the model.
This shit makes AoS crap look sane by comparison
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>>54696425
To be honest, i also dislike people using 3rd party models, except if they tell me they do before i notice it myself. Sure i and my boss allow it under said rules, but after all we have a store to run.

A few months ago there was a guy who had a 100% third party army and he never bought anything here so we threw him out, but thats is something we try to avoid. I should also mention that he talked shot about GW in general ( which isnt a good idea to do inside a GW) and also about our store, i guess doing that was justified.
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>>54696527
>yfw when third world countries have painted armies

I like facing painted armies in decent boards.
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>>54696519
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>>54696522
>So GW can't sell FW?

GW as a whole would be pleased you're buying FW, but the store manager obviously wants you to buy from him because it means the store turns a bigger profit which is good for him and the other employees.
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>>54696557
In Australia... what? Not even phone posting
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Plastic Abaddon when!??!!!?
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>>54696557
Australia is 3rd world?
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>>54696552

hello, games workshop
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>>54696557

posted from australia, clearly
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>>54696557
how do you roll dices in straya ? Do they need ground harnesses, too ?
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>>54696025
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK
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>>54696570
Why not buy FW from the store?
We do that here in SA like sane people.
Consumers are happy and store get a profit everyone wins
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>>54696585
No, just our economy makes us look that way.
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>>54696591
>>54696585
>>54696579
>>54696590
I'm as confused as you
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>>54695709
Anyone still havea picture saved of the Pre-Heresy World Eater converted from the White Dwarf's free Age of Sigmar model?
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>>54696566
Dorn's hair has always been described as white.
And fan art is the opposite of proof.
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>>54696098
Stream just confirmed no new model
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Stream guys just said no Abaddon
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How doable/fun is it to play a flamer focused Guard army? I have a fun idea of having everything from hull mounted heavy flamers on chimers to hellhound, etc
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>>54696598
Not enough shelf space.
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>>54696557
The fuck with that dread ? Shit looks like fucking lego.
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>>54696639
Broken Shit/10
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>he doesn't paint his base rims black!
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>>54696448
Yes you should take shields on all of them. Their shooting is not good enough to justify the points expenditure, their melee is. They are also too expensive to leave without the 3++, because ap-4 is very common.

Big or small squads is based on whether you can be assured no one is going to spam smite at them.
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>>54696588
>Implying anyone making money would post that

I can never get over the shit that freeposters think will get through a receipt check.
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>>54696637
So can all you chaoslets finally shut up about it?
I know they won't because chaoslets never learn
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Does kind of look like the Steel Legion Commander mask. If so, new ork minis will be a definite as well.
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>>54696670

>he's still at it
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This is getting weird.
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>>54696650
He lost the Assault cannon so he made one on the spot for the day, while he waits for a replacement to arrive
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>>54696598
Because they don't sell FW instore and you can't buy it through the order point for some reaosn
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>>54696653
broken as in I cannot play it without losing all the time, or broken in the way that is it overpowered
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>>54696647
Not buying from the shelf
>I want this model
>I can order it in for you
>That's great
>Should be here in a week
Like what happens with GW models that aren't on shelf.
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The Chadnaught was a fun build
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>>54696672
yeah, it does kinda look like their mask, but i could IG gets a wholy new regiment
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>>54696687
That is retarded
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>>54696523
Don't forget losing to every Vehicle heavy list because every option we have is over costed garbage.
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So right now I'm running 800 points of dark eldar. Should I swap GE 3 reavers I'm running for 8 carbine scourges (or 7 and one lance/blaster)? Is it worth losing my T5 W2 tar pit for the deepstriking firepower? I already have anti tank covered for the most part with a ravager, a raider, and a trueborn blaster venom.
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>>54696672
>Plastic Guardsman that aren't shit

Hype.

>If so, new ork minis will be a definite as well.

Not so sure, recent fluff has Angron returning to Armageddon.
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>>54696398
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>>54696693
Am I missing out by priming Ultras in black? I'm seeing a lot of people use the blue spray.
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>>54696727
>Not wanting a glorious Steel Legion + Vulkan vs. World Eaters + Angron vs. Orks × Ghazghkull three way.
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>>54696659
>doesn't paint his base rims bright green
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>>54696669
Spears or knifes+blades?
I think spears is better
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>>54696555
I can understand that. It's why I bought boxes to convert instead of going ebay for pieces. I want to support the store I play at. I've dropped about 1000 there since I came back 7 months ago, so part of me feels justified in using a single 3rd party model, but I understand getting annoyed by seeing tons of 3rd party stuff. Even if you're on good terms with managers, they aren't there to be your friend first.

100% third party is super douchey at a GW store. I can't believe the guy thought he could get away with that. I figure there's some leeway for people who spend a lot of money at the store to use FW and some 3rd party parts, but to not even support the store at all and insult the company is just silly. I wonder what goes on in the brain of people like that. I feel sort of bad for people with FW armies because they found something they love to play, but they will always get a little bit of a resentment from employees at GW stores for not buying stuff from the store.
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>>54696754
>he doesn't paint his snakebite leather
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>>54696557
First of all
> FUCKING 'STRAYA CUNT
ok now then...
Your paint jobs look like shit though. Tell me you aren't the sisters player with the shit looking 3rd party abortions.
And you think with all the lack of work you do, you would have time to paint.
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>>54695887
They were probably playing the new Konor mission, where there's a strategem to give +1 armor to a 2+/3+/4+ unit
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You know how this is going to go. The Imperium is going to win every single planet in the fate of Konor. It's time for Chaos and Xenos forces to put aside their differences, not out of love of each other, but out of hatred for a mutual enemy. Imperium has the most factions, and most models. They are GWs chosen force super faction. Every time a new player walks into a GW store looking to get into the hobby the store manager immediately shoves a cadre of space marines down his god damned throat.

We have a responsibility to win at least one planet. Either Xenos or Chaos, it doesn't matter at this point. Just remember, If you are a xenos or chaos player and you win a match, you have a responsibility to take a point from the Imperium. It doesn't matter if your local grognard terrorized you with riptides for the entirety of sixth and seventh edition, it doesn't matter if a part of your soul died every time your local chaos fag put his suspiciously sticky third party daemonettes on the table. We need to set these grudges aside for now. We cannot allow the Imperium to win every single planet.

We must channel our hatred towards the Imperium and their pathetic emperor.
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>>54696782
Wew
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>>54696707
I know. People have been asking for ages why we can't use the oder point + the instore delivery system with FW.
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>>54696782
The problem is, xenos were mostly going all-in to help chaos in week 1. I'm not sure how much more they can put aside their differences.
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>>54696782
Onto stage 3 I see
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>>54696782
Imperium Civil War when?
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>>54696782
Fek off ya grot. Dem 'Quizition boyz pay well so I'z gonna krump dem spiky gitz real good.
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>>54696803
This is what really gets me. It'd be nothing but a win win situation
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This might not be news anymore, but I think the stream just implied that marks of chaos do something.
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>>54696752
No.
I find I usually need to go over the coloured spray with a brushed layer anyway to get the same effect.
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>>54695897
>Guess the South America gets less trigger about tits
Sounds about right. I mean, can anyone imagine the Brazilian carnival happening in England or somewhere in the Midwest?
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What new army would you add to 8th edition? Rakghol? Q'orl? Squat revival? Saharduin? Your own Donut Steel Snowflakes? How would you make them a distinct faction compared to what already exists in the game?
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Is Tau PC yet? They're already getting new stuff probably with their codex
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>>54696753
I wasn't saying it's a bad thing. That sounds hot af. Just that Big Kash Khorne is going to get all the models if he shows up to the party.
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>>54696820
>Dem 'Quizition boyz pay well
Get a load of dis pansy Blood Axe.
Too much of a git to get his own teef.
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>>54696836
THAT fat mother fucker on the lefr.
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>>54696782
Everyone should give all their points to the Imperium for the good of Ultramar.
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>>54696869
Agreed, we need buff space lizards with robit bits
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>>54696855
Do Khorne models really make that much money?
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>>54696825
its because they are different companies for legal reasons, which stops them from selling FW in GW stores.
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Any of you guys know where I can get some bombs/missiles I can put on the end of my shoota boys guns to make them tankbustas?

I don't need more ork models and the inspiration came to me looking at my shoota boys that with just a bit of work, they'd look like they have an orky version of a grenade/missile rifle
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>>54696889
>Considering traditionally Khorne got the most releases.
Yes.
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>>54696782
Well, the UK and rest-of-world chaos boys are doing their best.
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>>54696763
People like you are welcome to use 3rd party models, afterall you already gave us quite a lot of money

By now i am pretty sure that he just did it to get some kind of reaction and attention from us....
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>>54696903
This is why Orks will never get the good rules.
They are so cheap and they don't buy enough models. They get by with begging for bits and some boys they get on eBay for cheap and plasticard
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>>54696893
It is not like stores sell pathfinder next to DnD...
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>>54696754
>>54696772
>>54696659

>He doesn't paint his base rims with a Gemstone paint
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>>54696825
GW doesn't like FW. They are keeping them at bay like this on purpose. If they could they would have gotten rid of FW but it's too established for their customers. Instead of crushing FW, they brought them in, but they keep the divide to remind them that GW doesn't want them.
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>>54696782
3 Xenos wins against Bobby G's toys this week
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>>54696937
When is the last time you entered a Wizards of the Coast Store anon?
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>>54696952
Citation needed: the post
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>>54696076
Nurgle Daemons. Swarm the table with plague bearers. T4, 5++ save, 5+ disgustingly resilient. With a banner they return d6 models if you roll a 1 on moral. With 20+ models in a unit, your opponent has a -1 to hit them with shooting and combat. Their swords re roll to wound without paying for it. They cost 8 points a model, 275 for 30 with a full command.

Epidemius can increase their Move, S, T, A, let them re roll 1 to hit, and re roll 1 on their disgustingly resilient saves by killing enemy units.
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FLUFFED
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Reminder that it is against corporate rules to ban forgeworld from a GW shop and you can just write to corporate and get the asshat in trouble
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>tfw Xenos at my store are taking points away from Chaos.
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>>54696930
Nigger with all the shit I had to pay for GW got like 1500$ from me for my army, yeah the rest I bought on fucking ebay but so does everyone

Now quit shitposting
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>>54696969
Just look at the facts and it makes sense. Sorry that you play some gay FW army.
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>>54695907
Arbites you say?
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>>54696964
I have been to a Wizards ON the Coast store
it was a gay bar
not really but it sounds funny
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>>54696903
I just use burna boyz with chopped down missiles from the burna bommer
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>>54696893
No it doesn't, hence being able to buy Heinz baked beans and Tesco value baked beans in the same Tescos despite Heinz being an entirely seperate company.
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>>54696981
Because even we are tired of them constantly bitching even when GW constantly shits out buffs and rules for them.
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>>54696979
source ?
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>>54696782
I really hope chaos loses every single planet
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>>54696982
>Nigger with all the shit I had to pay for GW got like 1500$ from me for my army

I don't believe you.
Show me the receipts.
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>>54696982
No some of us are /goodboys/ and don't mind paying at full price because we make MONEY BITCH
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>>54696447
No FW means no FW rules, you can still use FW Tartarus and it's not like they can demand you reveal where you got them from
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>>54696987
> ask for facts
> WELL JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS ANON
You rode the short bus to school right?
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>>54696977
NO GIRLS ALLOWED

(all hail the plaguefather)
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>>54696469
>just collect cool minis and paint them
You are now a Patrician, here is your phrygian cap and complimentary estate
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>>54697039
/goodgoys/ maybe
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>>54695998
Name one thing from FW that is broken more than something GW has published.

GULLIMAN is more broken than anything FW has made. If I meet one of you faggots in real life I will kick your ass nerd
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>>54697072
About fucking time
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>>54697027
Are you actually this retarded?
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>Being elitist about what subdivision of a company made your little army men
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>>54697076
> every one is a poorfag like me
> I am not and don't mind paying full price
> JEW!
I rest my case.
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>>54697092
>being retarded
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>>54696557
Gday, m8
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Where is placed point cost of relics in codex?
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>>54696494
No
Lorgar set up chaplain programs to ice guidance
Malacador set up space wolf brigades to check the edict was enforced
Blood angels had wardens before, one other legion did but they were the exception to the norm
Lorgar also helped set up legion lodges to help people break from the emperor
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>>54696836
Space Vampire Counts
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>>54696981

See >>54696793
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I'd say this is the worst general on 4chan, but /vg/ exists.
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>>54697111
There isn't any you stupid cunt.
One is free, more cost CP
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>>54697107
Nice comeback

I have to go, ive got to get my mix of gw and fw models packed up so I can go to the shop and have a game against another reasonable adult
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>>54697101
goy is the exact opposite of Jew you retard.
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>>54696672
If this ends up being the case, I might start a small IG force just to get the new minis. It would allow me to get a few extra vehicles I could sub in when I'm using my GSC force, and could provide back up for anything Imperium I get down the line. And they just look cool and have a color scheme like nothing else I play.
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>>54697060
Sorry that no one has liked your army for years and that you had to ask for permission for so long to play it.
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>>54697121
Don't forget about /mlp/.
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For those of you better at Mathhammer than me, whats the better combat drug for a 10 man Hellion squad? +1S or +1Attack?
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>>54697121
As long as you arent the worst, you are golden baby!
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>new ork models

Whaaaaaaaat, what the fuck are they going to do? Primaris all my boyz?
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WHERE ARE THE RECEIPTS
SHOP ME YOUR GODDAMN RECEIPTS ORKFAGS
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>>54695880
Years ago I had a Tau army with all Forge World suits and my GW's introduced the whole no forge world rule. Thats around the time I quit the hobby for gaming.
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>>54697153
A new Ard Boyz kit would be sick
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>>54697128
Holy shit how newfag are you?
Lurk MOAR you summertime bitch
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>>54697165
>Keeping receipts

what am I, 90?
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>>54697153
They'll probably just slap some guns and slapshod armor onto AOS Orrkus and call it a day, which wouldn't even be a bad idea.
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>>54697136
Bro I don't even USE FW.
I just don't buy the le EVIL GW no like MAH too KEWL FW lel argument.
Show me some proof or shut the fuck up
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Do we have any actual confirmation of these new guard or are people just saying it was said on the steam?
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>>54695709
So, I'm looking for some feed back on a new IG army I'm Interested in building. It's based around a Ultramar world that survived a war with the Death Guard, and now focus on anti-viral tactics:

The 3rd Vendecian Toxicus "Tox" Troopers

493/500 pnts.

>HQ [40 pnts]
1x Tempestor Prime, Command Rod, Chainsword

>ELITE [24 pnts]
1x Platoon Commander, Laspistol, Power Maul

>TROOPS [94 pnts]
10x Infantry Squad/w Flamer Special weapon [47 pnts]
10x Infantry Squad/w Flamer Special weapon [47 pnts]

>FAST ATTACK [109 Pnts]
1x Banewolf, Chem cannon, Heavy Flamer, Stubber

>DEDICATED TRANSPORT [230 pnts]
2x Chimera, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Hunter Killer Missile

Pic related is what I want to use as my Guardsmen. For a color scheme, I think I'm going to ape the Death Guard's scheme, with the cloaks being pale green and armor plates being Dark Green, lens red. This is both a camo for their homeworld and for blending into plaguefogs, but also as a hint of their pride over their victory against Nurgle's favored.
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>>54697165
What am I gonna do, go back and pull up my two big buys from five years ago?
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How about you just buy models you like and try not to be a WAACfag
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>>54697186
Kek
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>>54697200
Those heads look like Tau.
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>>54697146
Not familiar with them, but 92% sure +1 A is always better
>Assuming they're S3 A1. So its S4 A1 vs. S3 A2
>if so +1A is superior. Even if A2 base +1A is superior
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>>54697203
Yes, show me the RECEIPTS
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>>54697121
There are worse generals on this board alone.
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>>54696836
Exodites. Half the shit's already there, just make some new armor for the lizardmen dinos and put space elves on em, and give them rules to weaponize terrain.
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>>54697127
sure, have fun m8
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>>54697039
Holy fuck you're autistic, the fact you're trying to morally grand stand over paying a multi-million dollar more money is completely evident of that. Seriously mate, go home and rethink your life
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>>54697200
I just hope you aren't using those models as they look like shit
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>>54697215
Effectively they're already S4, because of their Hellglaives. So the combat drug would put them up to S5.
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>>54697200
Tempestor prime is a silly choice considering you don't have any scions. Make him a commander.
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>Thread devolves into two retards gagging on eachothers bait.
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>>54697049
That even more retarded. I can have a 100% FW army that has made the store no money, but I can't play 30k because "durr, we don't sell that."
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What if I use FW rules but make the model out of GW parts?
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>>54697213
I guess a little; the hoods and spikes kinda blur it, and the rest seems more krieg to me. Honestly, it looks almost like a Geth head.
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>>54697215
They have 2 attacks base, so if you turn a 6+ to wound into a 5+ (T8 shit) to wound then strength is better. +1A is better in most cases but it isn't strictly better.
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>>54697121
>I've never been to modern general: the post
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>>54697236
Math still stands. +1A still superior.

Generally rule of thumb is inless it's a MAJOR Strength / AP boost. More A's are always better.
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>>54697245
LISTEN HERE FAGGOT I WILL HAVE THOSE RECEIPTS

YOU CANT HIDE FROM ME ORKFAGS, SHOW ME YOUR FUCKING PROOF YOU AREN'T SOME CUSTOM MODEL TONKA TRUCK ASS SCUMFUCK

>>54697253
UNACCEPTABLE, THAT'S JUST SOME RECAST YOU FUCKING GREEN JEW
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>>54697231
I just hope you don't reproduce, because you have shit taste. If you think that is bad, I'd love to hear your opinion on Cadians.
If you could post something better, please do. I am actively looking for new mini's.

>>54697243
I suppose. But doesn't the Tempestor have Deep Strike anyways? And a better Armor Save? I mean, I suppose the Commander could ride in the Chimera. I will admit, I am still on the fence between the two.
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>>54697168
>Taufag P2W leaving
Nothing of value was lost
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>>54697257
My math was on average.
Yes you are right on T8 +1S is superior (.5W vs. .66W) but overall there isn't much T8 out there.

But against Infantry +1A wins, against (non-T8 vehicles) +1A wins
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Why can't I have an Ork in my Imperial Guard squad?
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>>54697313
Because you didn't give them your fucking receipts
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>>54697313
Wait for Blood Axe Clan rules
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>>54697313
Orks don't keep receipts so there is no proof of purchase.
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>>54696893
>being this retarded
Cmon anon
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>>54695880
Yeah that's pretty much exactly the same rules for just about every FLGS in the country that isn't some retarded shack. It would be fucking retarded to make yourself liable for people getting cancer by allowing people to bring carcinogenic models to your shop, let alone actually playing against any piece of shit that would ever use p2w models
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If I'm one model short of minimum squad size, due to changing point costs, is it okay if I use a proxy? I kinda want to use my gargs.

In return, bonus heresy:
https://youtu.be/4bHDnc2LhPM
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>>54696752
No. Blue spray is just a shortcut.
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>>54695838
>girlyman is repeatedly declared in the fluff to be the best tactician in the entire fucking galaxy
>abbadon is 1 reroll less good
I think abbadon is going alright lol
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>>54697215
>>54697257
>>54697285
>>54697310

thanks anons
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>>54697353
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>>54697356
>why worshipping chaos is better for Imperial Citizens
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>>54695880
Haven't looked at the rules for my local GW. How often is WYSISYG a thing, as long as you tell your opponent what a unit is armed with? It's not really an issue for me, but I'm more or less just curious.
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>>54695838
His Legion's chapter tactics are worse too.
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>>54695907

>plastic steel legion

[h e a v y b r e a t h i n g]
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>>54697353
>p2w
Not really
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>have to subscribe to view GW's VODs on Twitfch

holy fuck, this company is full of JEWS. You fuckers are the biggest goys in existence.

Now I feel even better about my 3rd party Miniature purchases.
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>>54697388
It's a thing in every GW store and most FLGS across the planet, anon
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>>54697404
Just use prime.
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>>54697408
nope it isnt, GWanon here
We encourage WYSISYG, but its okay not to do it if your opponent agrees
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>>54697408
I think I worded that funny. Here's an example:

>I buy a box of scourges
>only has 1 dark lance
>can I run them with 4 lances if I tell my opponent what I'm doing beforehand?
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>>54697398

HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>54697426
You can cheat if your opponent lets you, but I don't see why they would
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>>54697434
>im literally retarded
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>>54697427
Relax guy, those are old models, a few just have conversions.
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If a character has multiple pistols can they fire them all in the shooting phase / overwatch?
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>>54696782
Fuck off faggot, Xenos Vs. imperium is best conflict.
All chaos does is call them unimportant NPCs until chaos needs xenos to prevent them from jobbing
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Are 40k minis discussed in /toy/?
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>>54697446
>if you won't let me cheat you're retarded
lol whatever you say kiddo
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>>54697426

Only times it'd be acceptable is if all your scourges are equipped exactly the same
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>>54697434
>>54697446

If you're playing 2nd Edition Blood Bowl, the book specifically says you can cheat if your opponent hasn't read the rulebook.
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>>54697422
Ok, thanks. It's not really an issue with blasters (take a pair of pliers to a shredder and vuala), but lances can be a pain.
Thanks a million. I'll buy some more scourges to be sure. I'm only really short 1 lance
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>>54697457
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>>54695709
His waist is a bit too thin...
>>54696398
That shit is wack on so many levels
>>54696746
My sentiments exactly
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>>54697293
True, he can deepstrike, but the question is what is he going to do? He has no shooting, just a Chainsword. The Command Rod takes away his gun to give him 2 Orders, but you have no one to order.
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>>54697447

sadtrombone.wav
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>>54697434
how is that cheating ?
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>>54696076
Death guard
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>>54697138
they come here too.. my eyes were scarred by them
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>>54697463
So give em all carbines and say they're lances
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>>54697471
I'm an imperium player, you fag.
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>>54697465
I actually really like those type of rules just because it makes people need to read the fucking manual
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>Buy Ork flyer kit
>Open it up.
>Suddenly not sure which one I wanna build now.

Help me /40kgeneral/

I was thinking Blitza Bomma but the Burna and the Wazbom lookso cool and fun.
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There was an artist who did 40k stuff (not official, I don't think) that tended towards gore and Nazi symbology and WW2 stuff. It wasn't this guy but he had a similar style. Anyone know their name? I think they were on Deviantart.
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>>54696406
'a shock of white hair'
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>>54697138
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So, it's agreed that you don't play an 8e book army against someone playing an 8e index army unless they insist on it, or you use your 8e index rules, right?

I can't really call it power creep because this was obviously the plan all along, but we're certainly 2 for 3, likely 3 for 3 on the 8e books just liberally pooping all over the indexes.
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>>54697490
Well there goes my smile.
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>>54697490
By the Emperor, why would you save that image?
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>>54697492
>Imperium Player
>Slobbing on Xenos knobs
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>>54697121
Top kek, you've clearly never been to /pfg/ or modern general.
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>>54697434
>butt blasted
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>>54696427
go to a different board with your lib shit
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>>54697434
is is a game and it is supposed to be fun, having adding/removing rules, proxing moddels and stuff like that is all fine as long as both people agree.
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>>54696761
You can't take spears and shields, so blades is better.
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>>54697472

agree on female cypher but you're just nitpicking in the abaddon model

shit is legit amazing
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>>54697529
>Chaoskiddie
>begging for xenos to save them
I don't even give a shit who they side with on konor, I just find it hilarious that chaos is begging xenos to save them after all the shitposting they've done belittling xenos players.
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>>54697511
>Well there goes my smile.
>>54697525
>By the Emperor, why would you save that image?

for reasons.

1. The reactions.

2. to share my mental scarring from these images.

slanesh demands it.
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>>54697495
I wouldn't build the wazbom, only because I'd rather use the bits to convert up some mek gunz. Does that help?
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Necroniggas, is this good? (fixed from last bread)

>overlord- warscythe
>illumimator invictus Suzerians
>20 warriors
>20 warriors
>10 immortals (gauss blaster)
>10 lychguard- sword/shield
>5 lychguard- warscythe
>2 stalkers- heat rat
>6 canoptek wraiths

I realize I'm absolutely fucked against vehicles, is there a way to remedy this? Heavy destroyers are cool but 75ppm and easy to kill with a spare rocket- not to mention only firing one shot- seems like a cheat.

I can reliably rez a good portion of my army per turn, but would a ghost ark be a good idea to bring squads closer turn 1/2?

Aside from maybe destroyers or a ghost ark, are C'tan a useful asset? They can play punchoit with the big boys, albeit at a steep cost
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>>54697458
Figures are specifically banned on toy
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>>54697546

take your own advice, shitboot >>>/pol/
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>>54697490
>grey knights players
M'lady
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>>54697583
For hot glue reasons, no-one's going to do that for a 40k mini.
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>>54697583

wait what, I'm new to this

what the fuck is this, then?
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>>54697550
That's right, you are allowed to cheat as long as you opponent agrees to let you.
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>>54697490
You know today was a good day before I saw this
Today is no longer a good day
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>>54696639
Very doable. Flamers are cheap and most units can take them. Even the fucking ICBM launcher can take one.
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>>54697554
Youre right
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>>54697591
Just another example why chaos must win the world campaign. so these MLP loyalists can eat it.
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>>54696782

Xeno shill

You know, at the end of the day, Chaos or Imperial, we're all humans.

We may have differences,

BUT FUCK XENOS.

After we wipe the xeno scum from the galaxy, we can continue our feud.

signed

Chaos
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Alpha Legion
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>>54697506
Oh great, there's more
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>>54696639

I think it's fucking hilarious to watch, though I don't know how much fun it is to just march across the table flaming everything.
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>>54697603
how is it cheating ?
please explain it to me
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>>54697639
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>>54697639
Why have you posted a picture of an ultramarine?
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>>54695780
One of my LGS's is a mom and pop store and doesn't give a single fuck, the other store is an official GW and while the manager won't kick you out she will probably make some passive aggressive comments about it if you flaunt the model too much
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>>54697636
thanks /40kg/ for reminding me to fuck over my local chaos players
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>>54697662
Buy an emperor class titan and field it at the GW shop
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>>54697529
I'm not even taking part in Konor and don't particularly care which way it goes; Chaos is either going to win, (But the imperium will exterminatus a bunch of planets or w/e to make it a pyric victory) which is super unlikely, or much more likely, the Imperium will win but Chaos will accomplish some super secret un-hinted-at 'actual' objective.

This has been decided since the Campaign was announced. Being involved won't change it, and you know that GW is never going to let Chaos have an actual concrete victory against the Imperium.
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>>54697690
>>54697690
>>54697690

I think I posted in a ded general last time.
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>>54697699
meant to tag whoops
>>54697556
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>>54697480
I suppose your right. In that case, I'll just him in a Chimera, the Platoon Commander in the other, and let him bark orders from there. The only question is, what do I use the points on from there?
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>>54695709
So just pulled the trigger and got one of these badboiz
What should I expect? How does it play in 8th? How "fun" are they to assemble? if everything goes well with it and I make my academic goals this year I think I'm gonna get a second one and a marauder so I can jack off to WWII aesthetic
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ok guise.. what else should i do to this? maybe wash/drybrush the basing?
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>>54697603
cant answer me ?
I thought so, people like you always disappoint me
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Don't buy third party minis.
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>>54697490
Still worshipping the corpsepony?
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>>54697499
And than Sly Marbo murdered the Heretic
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>>54697729
Spot colours in key areas maybe. Clean and well painted but looks a bit drab. And yes do something with the base.
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>>54696420
PURGE THE WITCH
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>>54697748
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>>54697583
that explains the buyfag threads on /a/
>>54697601
you're jinxing us, stop

also how likely is it that we'll get scale increases for other armies, I don't want to be halfway into building my army just to have them become manlets
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>>54695880
Where's the rule about using the correct pronouns?
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>>54697578
Lychguard are over costed and if your opponent is not asleep you will never get into CC, they have a 5" move with no transports. Our Flyer and Monolith has no "Transport" Key word so no moving after dropping off....
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>>54697717
Yeah, you can do all Knights, though I don't recommend it. 2 Knights and dreads filling the rest would be fun, though.

If you like Knights a lot, a very fluffy and aesthetic (not to mention good) list would be a pair of Knights with scions and imperial guard as backup.

I recommend starting non-Knights, playing some games, then get to the heavyweights.
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>>54697748
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>>54697685
>not going to the GW in power armour made of resin and fueled by the burning plastic of models you've crushed and proxying it as an emperor titan
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>>54697748
Alright this one's funny
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Best Warhammer related youtubers? All I follow right now is Warhammer TV but some good channels for gaming, painting, collecting, lore etc. would be sweet.
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>>54697757
i thought a very light light blue wash on the black areas but i decided against it due to the silver probably getting ruined.
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>>54697789
I like Arch warhammer
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HELP GUYS.
I've been having plastic withdrawal since I've been on another continent from home for 3 weeks. I never knew I could miss building and painting my little guys so much ); wat do.
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>>54696264
My idea for them is that they'd have a hardon for anything heat-related, so their melee weapons would be like heathawks, and their weapons would focus around firing shunts of searing metal, maybe even hurling globs of magma or molten metal at the enemy. Plasma is like super fire so they'd also like that.
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>>54697776
Okay, that makes sense. I'll drop the sword dudes but leave the spears as midline defense.

That frees up a good deal of points, aside from a ghost ark what should I be looking at?

>>54697789
Frontline is good because they really get tactics and how to play (shocker as they did help design it), other than that most are weird or cringy. I find Alfa legion vids loveable in a 'good ol 1d4 days' kinda way.
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>>54697786
Most Freudian Pokémon villain award
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>>54697811
Yeah it'd be cool if regular CSM got some new models to paint to get extra points in the campaign like Space Marines did... oh well!
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>>54697471
>generic supersoldiers get into constant dick measuring contests with spikey generic supersoldiers
>interesting
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>>54697789
There's a pasta about this very subject, but unfortunately I don't have it.
I ussually watch Guerrilla minature games, Striking Scorpion, FLG and occasionally MWG, but that's mostly for WHFB.
Avoid arch warhammer like the plague.
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>>54697555
Idk man he looks like he's wearing a corset or something. Apart from that though, It looks pretty damn good, I'll admit.
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>>54697736

No.
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>>54697839
Is Frontline related to the tourney 40k group, "Frontline 40k" that is pretty prevelent in my state. Most insufferable cunts I ever met.
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>>54697845
Whats wrong with arch
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Is nu-guardsmen a meme or actually a real rumor?
I find it hard to believe GW would give us new models even if we are top tier now
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>>54697841
You mean you don't play death guard???
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>>54697889
He's very ranty spending sometimes 30 minutes to explain a 5 minute point, also people don't like how he injects politics into a lot of his videos or just makes straight political videos, he also hates GW and bitches about 40k and sigmar despite not playing much anymore
He's basically /tg/ which is why /tg/ hates him
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>>54697873
He's got frikkin scooby doo on his back pack
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>>54697873
Holy shit that's awful.
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Conversion idea. Yes or no ?
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>>54697910
>I find it hard to believe GW would give us new models even if we are top tier now
It is probably Necromunda.

Because, while Cadians are boring, their isn't anything explicitly wrong with them. Just a upgrade kit for different worlds would be perfect.
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>>54697812

I know the feels man,

just focus on what you're doing at the moment.
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>>54697931
I listen to his lore videos while im cleaning or painting
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>>54697910
This os definitely a human las-pistol of some kind. Guard is as good a guess as any.
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I dont get it. Can shield-captan' take knife cause he captain and take shield cause he is custodian at the 1 time?
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>>54697873
It's well sculpted and the face looks cool but everything else is really goofy, especially the exhausts on his backpack, shit looks like a cartoon-y blizzard character.
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>>54696406
>Implying there are any imperial fists left
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>>54697956
>Because, while Cadians are boring, their isn't anything explicitly wrong with them

They're ugly and gigantic.
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>>54697462
If he pays the points for them, how is it cheating?
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>>54697989
>gigantic

Nonse, Cadians are well known for being as large as space marines.
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>>54697955
LMFAO NO
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>>54696114
You can actually play squats in Horus Heresy. Just play Auxilia Imperialis with the Abhuman Helots and Survivors of the Dark Age provences. Now you can get T4, Sv 3+ grenadiers with S4 30" lasrifles. The fluff fits perfectly, and the crunch works out pretty well, except for the fact that you won't be able to have squat enginseers.
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>>54696114
Is it normal that the local GW store still has five of these on the counter because no one bought them ?
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>>54697989
Marinelets are just tiny.
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>>54697988
The funny thing is that the primaris fists are genetically more directly dorn's fists than the current chapter.
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>>54697889

Too ranty.
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I want to start a guard army, but the rumor of possible new infantry makes me question what I should do.

Could I get away with just using scions for my troop choices and then filling the rest of the army with armor till more solid news comes out?
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>>54697974
Dunno about pistol, I was thinking carbine
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>>54697839
If you roll well the DDay Ark with Stalker support can help greatly when an opponent drops a Knight.
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>>54697995
How isn't it cheating? If I make my entire army out of bottle caps and then hand you a valid army list am I playing the way the game was intended to be played? No.
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Ive been asked to put away ork conversions at a GW before

Moral is that cunts are gonna be cunts
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>>54696076
World eaters! seriously? nobody said that yet?
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>>54698099
Grabbing Cadians right now and making them Conscripts isn't a bad idea because then the new models can be Veterans/Infantry squads.

Scions are great right now and their Start Collecting box is great. Scions plus Tanks is a good army.
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I'm breeding a new bread as we speak, someone gimme a good OP image to use since I'm on my phone and have a limited meme folder
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>>54697220
I like this answer.
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>>54698099
>I want to start a guard army
You have lots of non-infantry options. Like Tanks. Lots and lots of Tanks.

Or say screw you to the Cadians and go hard core and get Vostroyans, Valhallans, or Steel Legion.
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>>54698149
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>>54698149
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>>54698149
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>>54698149
We're not getting a new Abbadon model edition ?
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>>54698134
really the only issue that would steem from that wound be line of sight.
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>>54698185
stream said nope
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The Emperor himself shows up at your door, what do you do?
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>>54698141
Still pondering the best way to deliver the boys. 9 zerks+apostle in a rhino, a couple of them, flanked by a couple dinobots and helbrutes?
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>>54698099
Buy your tanks now, wait for dudes.
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>>54698185
He got a new model a couple months ago.
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>>54698204
Gettin' burned
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>>54698204
Ask him if I can have a hug.
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Just run your models with what they have you dicks, dont proxy weapons according to situation. If you are going to be that big of a faggot at least put in the effort to magnetize weapon options
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>>54698204
Ignore Horus part
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>>54698184
What is the star bit from
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>>54698145
Holy shit, not sure why I didn't look at the SC for them. That is really one hell of a deal.
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>>54698215
That's fucking tight
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>>54698209
I think that will be my game plan.
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>>54698230
I don't have the exact art on hand but I assume it's the same symbol as on these
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>>54698215
What happened to his face? Also 10/10 conversion. Very curious how he did that.
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>>54698222
Shit now I want a hug from the emperor, can an artist please draw an astartes geting hugged by the emperor.
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>>54698208
9 zerks+apostle in one, 9 zerks+chaos lord in another, then drop in the raptors/terminators/whatever in after the rhinos come out into the open to force the enemy to choose between shooting at the murder cocoons or shooting at the murderball that just dropped near their boys. Either way you end up COLLECTING BLOOD AND SKULLS
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>>54698204
Ask why he didn't just help Angron's slave rebellion succeed instead of teleporting Angron away.
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>>54698215
Is Abaddon a Primarch equivalent in this edition?
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>>54697974
I resized the image so the lasguns power cell is a matching size. There is a slight angle, however it's not that far off.

It is a bit of an odd size for a pistol as well as for a rifle.
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>>54698229
#notmyemperor
#theimperiumwasnevergreat
#anarchochaosists
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>>54698229

that picture is patently false, both what the emperor and the faggot next to him are preaching

humanity sacrificed so much for absolutely no gain, only to prolong their suffering

that's why 40k is beautiful, it's the ultimate fuck you to any /pol/fag right-wing Nazi piece of shit who wants to take away freedoms. It does nothing but make humans miserable.
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>>54698259
Face looks like its from The Yncarne
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>>54698204
Does that mean that I am a Primarch?
He will be really disappointed.
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>>54698285
Gods, no.
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>>54698285
No, he's the Warmaster of Chaos. He's a total badass but he's not a primarch.
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>>54698269

>>54698269
Los geihts digga
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>>54698263
Seconding this. But make it a Guardsman instead.
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>>54697955
>MY HEAD. WHY IS IT GIGANTIC?
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Is it too much of a fluff stretch for an Imperial Guard regiment to have Onager Dunecrawlers instead of tanks?

I fucking love walkers
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>>54698294
Looking at the current steel legion squad. The commander has a las pistol that, while it does not have a clip, it still has a very similar angled design.
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>>54698324
I have proposed a story idea where ruinous powers teleported the emperors sword (pre return of gulliman) and some guardsman finds it mid battle.
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>>54698358
Yes especially when you can just take a mechnaicum detachment
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>>54698299
But on the other hand, the alternatives are even worse. And even if they weren't, 40k shows us a universe where nothing is black and white, people (and xenos) aren't inherently good and shouldn't be trusted, and problems aren't solved by holding hands and singing "kumbaya"

It's the ultimate fuck you to any libfag too
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>>54698258
I wonder what the relevance of that star is
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>>54698404
Each Iron Warrior receives one good boy point.
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>>54698404
1 star student uniforms
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>>54697843
>Literally Elves
>Literally spooky elves
>Literally orcs
>Literally gundam commies

necrons and nids are the only vaguely interesting xenos. The rest are as generic as can be.
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Wait, what are these rumors about steel legion plastics

I see no such updated rumors
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>>54697759
womanly hips
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>>54698274
Yeah, that seems like a good idea. Night Lords still might be better at the drop.
Especially if the anvil contains a Decimator with butcher cannons, which I have, and the hammer- a few raptor squads and a lord or two.
RIP AND TEAR is fun, but the sheer potential of making entire units shit themselves and run away...
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>>54698258
They're one-star Goku Uniforms. Life Fibers are invading.
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>>54698258
WHy do they have gay little tassels?
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Can someone spoon-feed me known codex rough releases or order? Hasn't been any news on Daemons or Blood Angels right?
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3rd party minatures are fine for flgs / garage games with friends. No need to make my friends pay hundreds of dollars for models we play for fun. Tournament play....where prizes and shit are on the line....thats a different story.

>>54697736

just because I am a poorfag doesnt mean I shouldnt be able to play 40k. if i buy a 3rd party model its because the gw one is overcosted for no reason (140 dollar piece of artillery that you want to run between 3 and 6 of) or they dont make a model for. So I will use 3rd gen troopers from Mantic for Mutant Rabble
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>>54698811
Every game has elitism, just ignore it
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>>54698811

Third parties and proxies are fine... to a point.

You throw a bag of pennies on the table and tell me they're Space Marines, that's when I have a problem.
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>>54698229
#notmyemperor
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Are assault termies any good this edition? what wargear is best.
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So, renegade chapters are pretty much created for bikes, right? Move+advance+charge seems pretty good and you can add warptime for additional fun.
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>>54698397
See for example the T'au, an Orwellian dystopia that uses altruism to justify all of their actions, while enslaving entire species into their rigid communistic hierarchy.
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>>54699026
How the hell are they communistic?
Literally a caste system.
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>>54697873
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>>54699090

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal.
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>>54698134
Yes, clearly Dark Eldar players buying four times the models they need because the boxes only come with a quarter of the guns they need is definitely the way the game is supposed to be played.
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>>54697843

>giant space knights
>some of which are vampires and werewolves

How precisely are they generic?
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>>54698596
I think khorne in the front night lords on the flanks would be absolute murder
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>>54696113

I'm not wild about the torsos and the pads are bog standard, but those lids are metal as fuck. Would buy.
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>>54699151
What the fuck does that have to do with it?
The point of the book is that the soviet union would did not lead to communism.
He was a libertarian socialist.

I am not going to get into a political argument but a caste system is directly opposed to communism.
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>>54699151
No wait i am not quite done ranting, you can call the Ta'u soviet style but sure as hell not classless moneyless and stateless.
Not even Stalin Lenin or Marx would have called the Soviet union communist other than possibly Marx using outdated 1800s lingo when people called what we now call socialism "Lower stage communism"
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>>54698397
That is such bullshit. You're the kind of dumbass who reads 1984 and thinks part of the message is that a little genocidal totalitarianism is necessary. The entire 40k setting is pathetically transparent fascist propaganda, and that's what is intended. If you think that the Imperium has a point slaughtering xenos and exterminating entire planets because of a few heretics, you've fundamentally misunderstood the point of the setting.

Ever notice how the Imperium literally daemonizes it's enemies? Ever think about the symbolism there? Do you take propaganda from Nazi Germany at face value?

Ever notice how the biggest xenos threats to the Imperium are also ruled by fascist regimes? Ever consider how the Imperium regularly exterminates peaceful unnamed xenos species? From any other perspective, the Imperium are comically evil villains.

And have you ever considered why Chaos is as much of a threat as it is? It exists directly as a mirror of the failings of mortals. When the Imperium fights Chaos, it's really humanity itself, often literally.

At the very best, the Imperium is justifiable just as much as Nazi Germany was justifiable because it fought the Soviet Union. Although you probably think they were, knowing all the fucking /pol/fags that infest this board.
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>>54699303

Communism is a utopian fantasy. The Soviet Union is the natural result of socialism. Just because I quoted an idiot who thought libertarian socialism was possible does not mean I agree with that premise.
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>>54699412
Different anon but it is a wargame and the setting GW created was meant to give a reason for all the factions not getting along so players didn't have lore/actual game contradictions.
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>>54699564
And this is relevant to proving the Ta'u are communist how?
You're entirely missing the point.
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>>54699412

Jesus Christ, you are a fucking moron. You can agree with the premise that the Imperium is doing evil to fight a worse evil without being a Nazi. It's fucking fiction. Chaos doesn't exist so we don't have to grapple with the moral problems of fighting it. Are you too fucking autistic to understand that?
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>>54699412

>>54699303
>>54699358
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>>54699616

They aren't, per se, but autistically complaining about how they aren't real communists is fucking stupid. They're an authoritarian, collectivist regime.
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>>54699656
Yes, finally you understand what i'm saying.
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are CSM armies able to bring Chaos Demons?
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>>54699722
Pretty sure yes, they share keyword Chaos i believe?
I need to re-read the force org bit in rulebook.
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>>54699722
Yes.

Either in the same detachment if you do not want to use any of the upcoming legion traits as they share the chaos keyword.

Or as seperate detachments to gain a legion trait for your csms

Or you just summon them with a chaos character
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>>54699722
Yes and no. They both have the CHAOS keyword, so they are legal to field as one army, even as one detachment. However, if you include Daemons in a detachment, that detachment loses any Legion rules that might otherwise apply to it. So you can field them together, but if you want Daemons and Legion rules, you need to put them in separate detachments.
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>>54699787
>>54699793
would any demons be complimentary to the Black Legion?
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>>54699412
Lol I hope this is an ironic shitpost
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>>54699412
>>54699920
40k theme is very much based on Starship Troopers book which was an exploration of Fascism and how people fall into believing it.
40k then still has the theme of fascism being portayed as the "good guys" but the difference is in 40k there seems no alternative possible at all.
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>>54699412
>Anon 1: 40k parodies fascists
>Anon 2: 40k parodies both fascists and liberals
>Anon 1: YOU'RE A NAZI
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>>54696550
completely agree
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>>54697499

Try 'torture device.'
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>>54700038
I'm aware of Starship Troopers and its messages, and WH40k is obviously partially inspired by it. But the thing is, it's not just a satire on fascism, it's much more complex. It's a satire on any populistic ideology, including liberal populism as well. Imo it takes that inspiration from 2000AD, especially Judge Dredd (another major influence).
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>>54697955

If conversion doesn't involve a roidgut-ectomy on these things, further effort seems pretty much a waste, imo.
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>>54699595
That's true, but it was also originally created to be satirical. In 40k, no matter what, you're playing as the villain. And the Imperium is certainly not the lesser evil. That's the thing about grimdark, there isn't a grey area, it's just pure, unadulterated black.
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>>54700359
>the Imperium is certainly not the lesser evil

It totally is.
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>>54699629
You do realize that fiction can have messages relevent to real life, right? In high school literature class, did you say, "Miss, 1984 is just fiction. It doesn't mean anything."
And do you seriously not see the fascist parallels? I don't even know how I could address that level of stupidity. It's more blatant than fucking STAR WARS.
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>>54700104
How the fuck is it a satire on liberal populism? Ever single goddamn race is ruled by a totalitarian government.
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>>54700038
I think one of the alternatives might be "no genocide"
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>>54700048
Let's be real. Knowing how much /pol/ loves 40k (which is so deliciously and infuriatingly ironic), there's a pretty good chance an Imperial apologist on this board is neo-Nazi
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>>54700373
I'd put Craftworlds Eldar over it, at the very least.
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