Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for omnissiah

Wow, they just confirmed on Twitch that there will be a New Armagadden Guard plastic range.

Models look great.

I heard there was a leak of the CSM codex, has anyone got more solid info on that?

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>>54692712
>Chaos
>Chads

lmao

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FOR THE ECCLESIARCHY

>>54692712
>>54692725
Post and then stop when people criticise, if you do it like you did then you come off as an attention who're
>>54692729
>implying Cawl hasn't fixed armageddons weather so you don't need a rebreather anymore

>>54692738
Source pic anythng

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I'm building up a force of Raptors made up of Land Speeders, Scouts and Stormhawks.

Would anyone like to see my progress so far?

I'm the guy with the Doom Eagles.

Been trying to get feedback on this list for a couple of days, but haven't got a sausage

Raven Guard, 1987/ 2000 points

HQ
Primaris Captain [6 PL, 96pts]
>Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, Power sword

Primaris Librarian [7 PL, 105pts]

Troops

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Elites

Aggressor Squad x6 [12 PL, 262pts]
>Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 202pts]
>2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Heavy Support

Hellblaster Squad [16 PL, 330pts]
>Plasma incinerator

Las Pred [9 PL, 190pts]

Las Pred [9 PL, 190pts]

>>54692759
No thanks!

>>54692759
Post pics infadel

Magnus did nothing.

#PsychicLivesMatter

>>54692738
>>54692753

It's bullshit, but Kelly's Tyranids are playing and they are really well painted

>>54692738
I hope they are truescale but they won't be and I'm sad.

>>54692746
We have legion traitors, read the warhammer community articles in the OP
>>54692765
How much of this have you already assembled

Don't know if anyone looked in last thread, but new tank. Looks pretty good, 4D6 S5 AP-1 shots sounds like a damn fun time

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/04/forge-world-new-releases-a-new-tank-and-the-return-of-model-masterclass/

How is this for Babby's First Army?

Overlord (Warscythe, Res Orb) - 147pts

5 Lychguard (Sword & Shield) - 185pts

15 Warriors - 180
15 Warriors - 180
5 Immortals (Gauss) - 85

3 Tomb Blades (Particle Beamer, Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes) - 129
6 Canoptek Scarabs - 78

Total: 984pts

>>54692759
>Space marines

Meh...Go ahead...

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Got bored of playing boring Dark Angels, tried converting them to Fallen.

Does it look good?

>>54692777
>whirlwind on a sicaran
So it's the current year and FW still hasn't sold a vindicator with a predator turret?

>>54692712
How long until Forge World produces a Primaris model?

>>54692747
Love CAN bloom it seems.

>>54692793
rip

>>54692793
Every time I see this I pee a little
>>54692797
Two years probably, as we need to update HH then tires of Cyrazus

>>54692704

See that's the kind of thing I'm thinking (for the record, would be psyched to play against bike lancers). The place I play doesn't have a drop in game community, so I always arrange games beforehand, so I doubt I'd get much hassle for it (so long as I made sure it was cool with them beforehand), more wondered if it would be potentially OP or overly bullshit.

Don't think running Intercessors that have a Plasma Gun or a Melta is gonna break the game though.

>>54692793
I fucking knew that was coming, but smirked anyway.

>>54692623
>>54692708
It would also be counter productive to make DKoK plastics when Forge World has a whole range for them.

>>54692652
I really hope the vidya is good. I've not played Mordenheim, but I heard it was so-so.

>>54692650
To clarify: each week has a theme, and anything you paint or purchase that week scores double points if it matches the theme.

>>54692670
They still exist, even if they do hide their special weapons away in the command squad kits.

>>54692697
Have fun, anon.

>>54692776
Everything is already based and painted except the Dread and 10 Reivers. Haven't built one of the 5 man Reivers but I own them, and haven't bought the second pred yet.

Also have painted up Lieutenants, Ancient and Inceptors

I really miss playing my 30k Admech army. Bunch of Robutts fighting with horses of anti-infantry immune fuckers with huge swords.

I just want to play the melee version of Necrons, Goddamnit!

>>54692815
You do you, I have a CSM with power sword and plasma gun, but don't have enough dudes to make a proper chosen squad so just run him as a plasma gunner

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Just got a cheap tackle box for my paints and shit.

Pretty good IMO.

>>54692828
FIRES
OF
CYRAXUS

>>54692759
Post away, but they better be 200% tacticool.

>>54692828
Hordes*

>>54692819
It would also be counterproductive to sell a monopose contemptor dreadnought, mk3 and 4 tacticals and terminators separately when together they're cheaper, and FW sells them for better detail but they did

>>54692765
Drop the dred for another quadlas pred, so you can take advantage of the stratagem. I'd try and move some points around to get a lieutenant to stick next to the preds, it'll make them extremely killy. I feel you have to many reivers compared to actual melee units, maybe drop one to get a vangaurd squad or something.

>>54692822
As I said before I'd try scouts with snipers over 1 or 2 reivers as reivers seem too costly for what they for me

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Probably a long shot but does anyone know who makes these bases?

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How the fuck do I beat Guard.

>>54692837
>using the basing paints ever
>having clippers that curvy
Just why

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>>54692768
>>54692843

Base design that I have so far.

Lustrian Undergrowth
Underhive Ash
Anthonian Camoshade
Rhinox Hide (Rim)

Going to add some Mordheim Tufts for that swamp feel.

>>54692878
Mortis flux levithan

>>54692776
Yeah, I know about the official spoilers, I'm talking about a leak of the whole codex that was apparently up on iTunes by mistake for a short while.

>>54692837
Nice, how cheap?

>>54692871
Have you looked on the underside
And just try Latin paving warhammer bases
>>54692886
The release date was leaked because they made it public too early for pre order that's it

>>54692880
>not using the basing paints
Gay

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>>54692843
>>54692768

Progress for what I've done so far.

Pretty simple but tomorrow I'll have a finished model.

Sincere apologies for the poor photography guys.

>>54692896
Set me back 10 squid.

>>54692765
>Been trying to get feedback on this list for a couple of days, but haven't got a sausage
Fuck off m8, you've been given feedback, and you've ignored it every time and reposted exactly the same list as before. If you're not going to take suggestions on board, what's the bloody point?

>>54692878
Multiple simultaneous deep strikes.

>>54692900
PVA, sand from the local sandpit, whatever brown, desert yellow rim
BAM 10/10 bases

>>54692897
>The release date was leaked because they made it public too early for pre order that's it

Ah alright, thanks. That at least clears it up.

>>54692908

I believe the Codex Astartes calls this maneuver "Steel Rehn"

>>54692907
Not him but did he reply with why he was ignoring advice
>>54692908
*defensive deep strikes

>>54692903
That is an indistinct green smudge, which means it's an A++ Raptor.

>>54692787
Low on anti-tank/anti-monster. Necrons can't just rely on gauss for that any more, you'll want at least one dedicated unit.

>>54692885
I play Tau.
>>54692908
He used 4 scout sentinels and 70 conscripts though.

>>54692907
Asking for list advice with chad marines is pointless anyway. They have so few options right now that any armylist of them basically writes itself (which might actually be the point of them)

Martion Ironcrust before or after varnish?

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Anyone else upset Autocannon/Lascannon Venerable Dreadnoughts are illegal now?

>>54692908
Yeah, this. In general massed deep striking seems to be the way to go, since there's no real counter play against it apart from hoping for bad charge rolls or playing Tau with lots of early warning overrides. The new LSM stratagem helps somewhat, and I'm hoping that eventually most armies will get something similar, but it's fairly costly at 2 CP and still doesn't solve the problem entirely...1000 points of grey knights just dropping in your deployment zone and charging straight away isn't much fun.

to the guy asking how much I want the mediafire for shroud of night sorry for not responding, was in a meeting and it would be great if anyone could link it here, gotta travel for a while in a bit so itd be great to have something to read during

>>54692953
Not illegal you dumbass, if its in the imfex it can be fielded

>>54692939
>I play Tau.
Perhaps you should've said so in your first post then :^)

>>54692953
They aren't, you can still use the entry from the Index.

>>54692953
They're not illegal yet, you're still allowed to use them from the Index.

>>54692971
>imfex
lel, wtf autocorrect

>>54692939
If he's spamming conscripts you need to have something that can chew through them. I assume they'll be supported by a Commissar too. If you can field any sniper weaponry then do so. Pick him off and those conscripts will be decimated in the next morale phase.

What army are you playing with? What were the full forces each of you were fielding?

So I got 2 dark imperium death guard sprue sets. What should I get to complete a 2k army? Convert one of the lords of contagion to typhus? Get some hellbrutes and tanks?

>>54692953
Why are they illegal?

>>54692971
Except it's not? "The datasheets in the new codexes overwrite the same datasheets in the index books."

>>54692747
DAfags BTFO?
Fucking every marine army is as gay as christmas now. Embrace your battle-brother, you know you want to

>>54693009
The Federal Bureau of Intelligence took offence and fielding them is not punishable with five to ten years in maximum security prison.

>>54692939
Stealth suits with homer beacon allows crisis team to deep strike with flamers, gg ez pz

>>54693009
This line from the FAQ:
"The datasheets in the new codexes overwrite the same datasheets in the index books."

Therefore, VenDreads no longer have access to the old weapon options.

>>54693005
Quad-lascannon predator is solid. But it's probably best to wait for their codex before filling your list out to 2000 points, there may be new options in there you'll want to take.

>>54693005
DEFINITELY convert one of them to Typhus. I'm guessing that will change once the DG codex drops, but right now Typhus is both cheaper and better than the Lord of Contagion, so there's no reason to field the Lord, and they're visually similar enough that a conversion shouldn't be hard.

>>54693012
And when explicitly asked about wargear options they said anything in the index is kosher

>>54693005
Probably wait untill the announced Death guard codex is released (it's gonna be the next one after the CSM and GK codexes are out next week) so you can decide if you maybe want Mortarion, DG terminators and that cute little tank they're getting.

>>54692907
I've had like 3 responses, mostly headscratching about Reivers and Preds

The feedback I've had has been fairly minimal - was I supposed to rewrite my whole list with limited feedback given?

I'm considering the advice as options for different situations, but I'm still using this more generic backbone to critique to get an idea of variations I can create

>>54692927
Highlights haven't been done yet but yeah, a green haze from far away, that's pretty Raptor.

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>>54693025

>>54692913
>painting your bases brown
Get a load of this fag
Astrogranite or GTFO

>>54693039
So explain what "The datasheets in the new codexes overwrite the same datasheets in the index books." means then you dumb fuck?

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Anyone play any games lately? I had a 1500 Konor game against Dark Eldar yesterday.

I brought Straken, Yarrick, a Priest, a Commissar, 30 Conscripts, 3 Infantry squads, 2 Tank Commanders, a Basilisk. 4 Bullgryn in a Chimera and an Armored Sentinel.

He was trying some fun units to see if they were worth it, so it was an experimental army run. He brought 2 Raiders with Wyches, a Venom with Bloodbrides, 2 Succubi, like 15 Hellions, some amount of Reavers, a Razorsomething flyer, the Razorwing flock, some Chimeras and some Beast Masters.

Turn 1 he pretty much hid out of sight or flanked and was just far enough away so I couldn't counter charge or shoot much. Turn 2 he assaulted and the Conscripts took a hard hit. Turn 2 I hit back really hard and gunned down most of the Hellions and Reavers, the rest was melee where I wiped everything that assaulted. Turn 3 he gunned down the Bullgryns with everything and then the rest was glorious melee death from the other Succubus, Wych squad, Chimeras and Bloodbrides.

The end result of the game was all my infantry died except Straken, Yarrick and the Priest. I had all my vehicles, and he had 1 Reaver and the flyer left. Overall it was fun and most of the game took place on a 1 by 1.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/04/legion-focus-black-legion-aug4gw-homepage-post-2/

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Who was in the wrong here?

>>54693052
"The datasheets in the new codexes overwrite the same datasheets in the index books."

This means you CAN'T use the dreadnought weapons. End of story.

>>54693055
meaning new abilities and or stats, you dumb fuck

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>>54693061
hahahahahahahahaha
It's crap.

>>54693028
>>54693033
>>54693041
Thanks, I'll wait until the codex then.

>>54693060
Oh it's you again with the orange conscripts. Still loving that colour scheme every time.

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>>54693061
New part of Abaddons datasheet?

>>54693061
>Community team member Rhuairidh, who wrote this article, is so confident of the awesomeness of the Black Legion that he’s offered to prove it with a game on Warhammer Live. Tune in at 6:00 pm UK time on Twitch to watch it for free – he’ll be battling the Grey Knights, who we’re previewing here.

How much do we know about the GK codex aside of Grandmaster Dreadknight?

>>54693061
So besides the Death Guard, the Black Legion are the only ones getting new models this edition?

>>54693061
>>54693103
So Black Legion confirmed for Ultramarine mirror

>>54693083
>>54693061
Atleast its not Word Bearers level of crap. Who will probably be released on the last day, hoping that some idiots still preorder the codex.

If you don't like World Eaters or Emperors Children its time to stop playing. After 3 codex variations its clear that it will not get better. GW simply has no idea what to do with non god aligned legions.

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>>54693083
>>54693103
>>54693061

Copy of the Ultramarine stratagem.

>>54693103
Yep, that's new.

>>54693103
>New Abaddon model
FUCKING
FINALLY

>>54693106
Nothing but I hope to fuck we get some buffs.

>>54692992
I brought:
Suit commander w/ markerlight drones 4x Fusion guns
Etherea
Cadre Fireblade


4x 10 strike team
17 Kroot w/ 2 kroot oxes


8 Pathfinders 3 w/ rail rifles
8x Pathfinders 3 w/ ion rifles

5x Stealth suits
5x Stealth suits

3xCrisis suit 2x missile pods, flamer

3x Crisis suit 2x Fusion blaster, flamer

Broadside 1/ heavy rail rifle,

Hammerhead Railgun smart missile system

2000

He brought:
2 huge units of catachan conscripts w/ Stracken and Priest and Commissar

2 units of scout sentinels w/ flamers

Celestine and 10 Seraphim
2x 5 Scions squads with leader


2 units of veterans with melta and plasma and heavy flamers in heavy flamer chimeras

And lots of arty.

>>54693109
>>54693117
>>54693119
>yfw Abaddon is a LoW and basically bobby G

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Oi ya cunts, is this flavor of necrons viable?

>overlord: warscythe
>illuminator stevie wonder

>20 warriors
>20 warriors
>3x5 immortals- gauss blasters

>10 lychguard- sword n shield
>5 lychguard- warscythe
>2 triarch stalkers- heat rays

>3 tomb blades- shieldvanes, gauss blasters

Maybe some wraiths would be better than tomblades, they're so damn expensive for being two immortals strapped together. What should I change? Maybe flayed ones or something deep-strikeish for early threats to soak turn 1-2 Fire?

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I'm looking to run 3 squads of Cataphractti terminators the best pattern along with Saturnine with Asterion. It's a vanguard detachment and I'm probably gonna be deep striking them in. Any go to loadout in their limited arsenal? Making an infantry/dread army just for context

>>54693060
I had a game yesterday with my standard demi-company list totalling 922 points and then just two las preds with a tech marine.

It came down to the wire when my friends possessed blobs came to the fore but the Ultramarine doctrine spared me by a whisker. Overall a good game.

Quite enjoying the campaign so far. Nice conscripts too

>>54693119
That's not confirmed at all.

>>54693119
Take a look at the pic and be disappointed my friend. All his personal guard seem new, but he hasn't changed.

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>>54693136

>Conscript blobs + Celestine

>>54692777
Why is it better than a fucking thunderfire cannon?

>>54692913
>>54692883
>Base rims aren't black

Disgusting

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>>54693119
>new model

>>54693119
Not even close to confirmed. They're just buffing him because GW is actually trying to balance this edition.

>>54693156
>All his personal guard seem new

If by new you mean from Dark Vengeance, sure.

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>>54693060
Played two games last weekend. Pic related was the Invasion scenario, with Chaos assaulting Imperial Guard lines. The IG suffered massive casualties, but thanks to a stalwart Banehound and the intervention of a few assassins the Chaos assault faultered. The Chaos Lord threw himself into melee with the guard commander near the end, failed to get past his refractor field and was gunned down next turn, sealing the Imperium's victory.

Later on a bunch of space marines ran into Ghazgkull/off-brand Ghazkgull equivalent and a bunch of his boyz, both sides looking for glory (double VP for character kills). First two rounds were bloodless as both sides positioned, marines held deep strikers back and a wyrdboy used Da Jump to move stuff around. After that it was solid bloodshed. A mixture of Intercessors and tacticals managed to weather the massive mob of boyz, but once Ghaz got stuck in they were all pulled apart. A Terminator Captain struck at the orkz' backline support characters before they could be Jumped in, but a powerful Smite and a lucky round of combat killed him before he could finish the job. By the end it was just Ghaz and a 5 man squad of vanguard veterans left, with victory firmly in the orkz' hands.

>>54693143
Your immortals will get btfo in no time

Always go with larger squads. Use the warriors to sit on points if you need them for objectives.

>>54693156
His guard are just DV chosen

Why the fuck cant I find decent looking clear bases?

>>54693173
How can they keep getting away with this
My hopes were so high for chaos for once
But ruined so quickly

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Hows my 750 point Black Templar list?

-HQ's
1. Chaplain, standard = 72 pts

2. Emperor's Champion = 75 Pts

-Troops
1. Crusader Squad = 147 pts
[-] Initiate 1-8: Bolt Pistol (0 pts), Chainsword (0 pts)
[-] Initiate 9: Bolt Pistol (0 pts), Power Axe (5 pts)
[-] Initiate 10: Plasma Pistol (0 pts), Power Fist (12 pts)

2. Crusader Squad =122 pts
[-]Initiate 1: Combi-Melta (19 pts)
[-] Initiate 2: Plasma Gun (13 pts)
[-] Initiate 3: Lascannon (25 pts)
[-] Initiate 4-5: Boltguns (0 pts)

-Elites
1. Vanguard Veteran w/ Jump Packs = 157 pts
[-] Model 1: Relic Blade (21 pts), Storm Shield (5 pts)
[-] Model 2: Power Sword (4 pts), Storm Shield (5 Pts), Melta Bomb (5pts)
[-] Model 3-5: Power Sword (4 pts), Storm Shield (5 Pts)

-Transports
1. Rhino = 74 pts
[-] Storm Bolter (2 pts) x2

2. Razorback = 100 pts
[-] Twin Assault Cannon (35 pts)

Total: 747

I hope Abaddon will be part of the new FW character series, they know how to do gritty chaos better than GW ever will.

>>54693060
2000 point game with my AdMech against Grey Knights a few days ago. Was our first game in 8th for both of us.
He ran a List with 2 units of Paladins, Draigo, 2 Dreadknights, 2 Rifleman dreads, 2 TL Lascannon Razorbacks and a strike squad, I had a fairly mixed list with 1 squad each of breachers, destroyers, rangers, vanguard, infiltrators, 2 kastelans, 1 onager, 1 dragoon, 2 domini and a knight paladin.

I got DESTROYED. He kept the maximum amount of units allowed in reserve, deepstriked the 2 dreadknights, draigo, one unit of paladins and their apothecary and managed to charge with 4 out of the 5. Draigo killed the wounded Knight paladin (one razorback managed to knock 9 wounds off it, draigo did the remaining 15 in one round of melee), plowed through everything else he could reach (no surprise there), and only took a few wounds in return when the knight exploded.
In round two I managed to get both dreadknights down to 1 wound, then got charged by them again and was left with 3 models on the table. I conceded at that point.
So yeah, mass deepstrike grey knights with obscene luck on rolls are tough.

>>54693120
Same here. Fucking 1 attack purifiers with their shitty psychic power

We getting a new abaddon model?

>>54693234
no

>>54693239
Maybe if >>54693206

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>>54692837
Nice man me too, it's great. I'd get the project box but not for $90 AUD.

Im painting my dark eldar with a color scheme using citadels ushabti bone as he main color and red as secondary, which color i should paint the guns?

>>54693219
>>54693120
Unrelated, but as someone who wants to put together a token GK force (mostly for their cool models) what units would you recommend? I for sure want their FW dread and land raider.

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>>54693206
>>54693234
>>54693239
>>54693244
ForgeWorld already made one

>>54693189
Ok, I thought that might be the case. I'll drop 5 and just have a 10-man squad sitting next to the overlord and reconfigure as needed.

Neato, if I buy the reclamation legion, a SC: Necrons, and the judicator thing, I'll only need illuminator and 6 more warriors, plus whatever I reconfigure in my list.

Are there any hidden necron gems I should consider getting?

>>54692747

Heterosexuality and being a Chad aren't directly related anon. You can be a gay Chad or a straight Chad.

>>54693260
I would hope for a move heavily 40k one... and hopefully a better pose too...

>>54693204
I'd drop the regular chaplian and get grimaldus, his extra attack buff bubble is worth it.
Also, that second initiate squad: what are you doing nigger? 2 weapons that need/want to get up close and personal to do damage and one that wants to be far away sitting still? Why? Just why?

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>>54693260
But if you're willing to do a bit of work, you could convert a really nice Abaddon

How do I apply texture paints without wrecking my brush?

>>54693257
Interceptors and Paladins for sure

>>54693234
Why would you want a new model? You got primaris marines already, be happy. If you don't play them its your fault for choosing a shitty faction.
I switched to Tau and Eldar last edition, atleast they sell and will get good rules along with new toys.

>>54693285
Use old/cheap crappy brushes for it

What if they use the twitch game to unveil the new Warmaster?

>>54693285
You don't use a brush for texture paints.

>>54693285
There's a dedicated texture applier that GW sells. Or you could just use any hard thin flat surface that you have on hand.

>>54693285
buy a shitty brush from a dollar store

>>54693120
>>54693219

That's the list with the new codex, I don't play GK so I don't know if any of the points changed

Battalion Detachment

HQ

Grand Master Ulix (285)
– Dreadknight armour
– pair of dreadfists
– heavy incinerator
– gatling psilencer

Brotherhood Champion Taeion (115)
– Nemesis force sword
– storm bolter

TROOPS

Strike Squad Titanas (214)
1x Justicar Titanas & 9x Strike Squad Marines
– 8x storm bolters
– 2x psilencers
– 2x Nemesis warding staves
– 3x Nemesis falchion pairs
– 3x Nemesis force halberds

Strike Squad Betheus (128)
1x Justicar Betheus & 5x Strike Squad Marines
– 5x storm bolters
– 1x psilencer
– 1x Nemesis warding stave
– 2x Nemesis falchion pairs
– 2x Nemesis force halberds

Strike Squad Maneus (107)
1x Justicar Maneus & 4x Strike Squad Marines
– 4x storm bolters
– 1x psilencer
– 2x Nemesis falchion pairs
– 2x Nemesis force halberds

Air Wing Detachment

FLYERS

Squadron Leader Calaeus – Stormhawk Interceptor (217)
– 2x assault cannons
– typhoon missile launcher
– las-talon

Squadron Pilot Cerion – Stormhawk Interceptor (217)
– 2x assault cannons
– typhoon missile launcher
– las-talon

Squadron Pilot Lumius – Stormhawk Interceptor (217)
– 2x assault cannons
– typhoon missile launcher
– las-talon

Total: 1,500 points

>>54693166
I have found in the past that black bases chip far too easily and don't lend well to most schemes and tables I play on. Could be personal preference but that's just been my experience.

>>54693280
What is that made out of?

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New abaddon model looks good

>>54693323
That is so clearly a 3P it's not even funny

>>54693318

Pose looks like FW's Horus.

>>54693136
I can see why his list works. Scout sentinels move forward and screen agaisnt deep strikes, conscripts tie up whatever they can, veterans and scions are fast movers who hit valuable targets. Celestine makes everything tougher. All while shit rains down on you.

You need to remove the Commissar and the Priest ASAP. Without them the conscripts will loses masses to morale failure and be less of a threat in melee. I assume that Tau sniper units can freely target characters? Scion deep strikes you can't do much about, though with careful positioning you can keep them more than 12'' away of anything really valuable.

Trouble is that you've still got a whole lot of models to shoot off the table. Did you feel like your volume of fire was lacking?

>>54693277
Plan is to have the in the Razorback as anti vehicle.

>>54692883
I did stirlamd mud with (kastellan?) green painted onto parts and light highlight of bone/light green plus little grass tufts, it looks really badass and gives a nice swamp/forest-ish feel. Out of the house so no pics, but I think Duncan did a video of something similar. Worth looking into for tacticool boys

>>54693280
Man, that is beautiful.

>>54693083
I dunno, with a squad of Berzerkers that could be pretty nice.

>>54693323
Over designed garbage and far too organic

>>54693318
>>54693337
It's not mine, but it was made from FW's Horus. Not the best quality image but it's clearly better than GW Abaddon

>>54693306
Also here's the BL list

Spearhead Detachment: 6 Command Points

Spearhead Detachment

HQ

Abaddon the Despoiler (240)

Sorcerer with force sword (102)

ELITES

10x Chaos Terminators (481)
– 4x combi-bolters
– 3x combi-flamers
– 1x comb-melta
– 1x heavy flamer
– 1x reaper autocannon
– 4x power fist
– 1x chainfist
– 3x power axes
– 2x power mauls

HEAVY SUPPORT

Forgefiend (169)
– 2x Hades autocannon

Forgefiend (197)
– 3x ectoplasma cannon

Defiler (178)
– reaper autocannon
– havoc launcher

FAST ATTACK

3x Chaos Bikers with chainswords (99)

Chaos Spawn (33)

TOTAL: 1,500 Points

>new space-elf models never

>>54693285
Don't use a good brush for starters. Grab a popsicle stick or something.

>>54693391
>Just got an entirely new god
>Already complaining

Eldar players, everybody

>>54693280
Why would anyone ruin Horus's awesome model like that?
All I did was to replace the mace with a sword.

>>54693363
I've already done a lot of Stirland Mud for my Skaven and some competition entries so I was a bit tired of it. I might apply another coat of Anthonian Camoshade to the base to give it a darker feel.

I was thinking along the lines of the Raptors that were deployed into the jungles of Armageddon, does the base fit that? Perhaps when it's finished the theme would be better represented.

>>54693323
If I could buy just the head, I would.

>>54693391
Dark Space elf models are legitimately some of the best models they have ever put out.

>>54693406
>implying anyone wanted that crap
I play ULTRAMARINES and I'm sick and tired of facing 10 old sculpts while I get new stuff almost every month.

>>54693406
You mean
>stuck with ancient monopose metal minis for half their infantry
>still complaining

>>54693407

They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

>>54693286
I like the idea of the interceptors but their little antennae will never not look dumb to me

What's the usual conversion to make Dreadknights not-retarded? I've seen DreamForge leviathans used as counts-as but it'd be missing the iconography and would be unplayable in any official capacity.

>>54693354
I think I could have dealt some damage but the sentinels and celestine got into the fire warriors and pathfinders turn 1 and things sort of went to shit.

I fucked up on the kroot, they are going in front of the fire warriors next time.
Still, it is so much stuff coming at you it's super hard to deal with.

>>54693406
>one model
great! :DDDDDDDDDDD

>>54693423
Agreed. If they could completely overhaul the Aspect warriors the same way they did the dark eldar instead of using the same models they've used for the last five years, that'd be gr8.

>>54693407
Well using a failure to make another failure is not a very good idea to start with.

Hell bloody Orks did a better job at invading Terra

>>54693061
Fun Fact: You can't legally fire assault weapons after advancing due to how the rules for selecting units are written.

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>Really love the Word Bearers colour scheme and want to paint my army with it
>Know that i will get shafted by the legion rules if i do it
Hold me /40kg/

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>>54693407
Because Abaddon and Horus look the same and a quick shoulder and weapon swap gives you a great looking Abaddon? Same guy also made a really cool Sorcerer from Lorgar

>>54693156
nah the minis around him are the old dark vengeance chosen.

>>54693448
Use renegades

Remember Black Legionaires: Not only is your legion trait garbage, your Primarch is dead.

>>54693415
Yeah, the base looks really nice, though I don't know how it'll compliment the olive of Raptors armor (but I'd have to see the two right on top of another). Maybe darkening it with a shade or two then a really light bone drybrush?

But it still looks great as is, color is really nice, good balance of bright lushness and darker terrainy-feel.

>>54692903
Sniper has a really good armor color too. Good work anon.

>>54693448
Wait for codex, I'll hold you when it comes out, warm you by the fire, and we'll throw all other legion rules into it.

>>54693435
Ive seen people put the front of a dreadnought in place of the baby carrier part and it looks pretty legit, I'll see if I can find a picture

>>54693450
Yes, I'm using Horus as Abaddon too. But I skipped all the spikes and the retarded top knot, kept the wolf pelt, and just replaced the weapon.

>>54693106
>GK Codex comes with 32 entries
>GK Index has 28 entries (including all SM shared units)
>GK confirmed for getting Grand Masters in Dreadknights for +1
>WD confirmed? Chaplains in Terminator Armour for +1
>Two new sheets

>Guessing a GK Lieutenant (in PA and Terminator Armour) for reroll Wounds (CSM got one too)
>Guessing Sanctuary will return as a copypasta of the leaked Tzeentch power

>>54693448
Play 30k

>>54693481

At that stage why not just build a Redemptor with a sword?

>>54693447
how so?

>>54693469
Megadead, even. His soul was erased from existence. He's more dead than anything else in the universe. More dead than black and gold as a fashion choice.

>>54693469
Hahaha armless the harmless and his boys suck! And always will! They couldn't even destroy cadia properly, a fucking half-mad techpriest did it on accident!

Ahahahahanahaahahaah cucklets will never be ultramarines, gilly beat failboy every time

Space Rome > space barbarians

>>54693406
>SoB players got a reesculpt of a model you only need onces
>the new hero is no longer in 8th
>most of the army is going to be legal across the world with 21 years old
Fucking SoB players complaining

While I'm here getting updates for my marines every time! Fucking ungrateful [armies with decade old models]!

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Necron "Titans" when?

>>54689062
Shit I guess my friend has some reason to blow up my phone about how his knights aren't viable. Of course with how hard he wrecked me, I'm not shedding any tears that he has to either increase the points or drop a knight.

>>54693482

Retarded or not, the Topknot is Abaddon's signiature anon. Without it he's Joe Chaoslord.

>>54693462
>GW still haven't released those chosen outside of the DV box

Fucking reeeeeeeee

>>54693495
>30k special rule is...being more resistant to failed morale checks
Oh you.

>play Necrons
>slowly lose hope of ever getting anything interesting ever again

God, we really used up all our good will on the 5th ed redesign.

>>54693469
>Tfw your primarch was the only one who cohesively plot against the Emperor
>Tfw your Primarch was the only one who could come close to even fighting the Emperor
>Tfw almost all the other primarch who decided to join you were fucking retards
>Tfw your still the main threat to the imperium

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>>54693496
>>54693481
>>54693435
Found a picture, just order some of the GK noughts from a recaster and you should be set

>>54693504
>Girlyman has his throat cut open by a primarch
>Has to go and play with the warmasters, and still loses

Maybe they'll let him back up with the big boys someday
Maybe

>>54693521
Your rules aren't amazing, but gal vorbak and your primarch are pretty cool.

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>>54693526
Perty is pretty dangerous, but most of his losses come from retarded "BUT THE IMPERIUM HAS TO WIN" plot armor.

>>54693531

I feel like all this does is ruin an iconic and beautiful dreadnought.

>>54693440
I had the feeling when I faced down my first ork horde this edition. Hordes are powerful now that templates are gone, and many dedicated swarms get a bonus for running big numbers. You NEED to have a good volume of anti-infantry fire and, ideally, some way to negate whatever special rule is stopping massed casualties inflicting horrendous morale failure.

>>54693513
The only models chaos will get are the DG ones. Maybe something else next year. Or never.
They got no new stuff during the big campaign last year, so its DV all over again. Promised to be a focus point, then forgotten to replace vanilla marines with primaris.

>>54693512
I'm calling him Eliphas. Because I can.

>>54693482
>No top knot
Anon, I... You're doing it wrong

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>>54693498
>More dead than black and gold as a fashion choice.
Don't worry, they're bringing it back.

>>54693513
DV was mixed sprues. It'd have to be a whole new set of moulds. Not as simple as just putting them seperate.

>>54693573
They managed to separate out the cultists

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>>54693551

Genuinely fixing a Dreadknight takes more greenstuffing skill than you have.

>>54693548

On a scale between bitter to decimation how mad are the Iron Warriors that the Imperial Fists are more threatened by Orks than their "rivals"?
>The Beast wiped out the Imperial Fists. >Orks (almost) wiped out the Crimson Fists.

>>54693580
And the aspiring champion.

>>54693573
But the work is easy enough to do for getting profit

Also they should rebox it ala Island of Blood style

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>>54693473
Kinda of what it looks like so far. I was thinking of another Anthonian shade.

Thanks about the armour it's just two thin coats of castellan green. Then a highlight of Loren Forest then Straken Green. Rifle will be left black with highlights. The faces will the Castellen Green with some 'camo' on them.

>>54692957
>since there's no real counter play against it
Clever army positioning? Have cheap units out front that create no-go zones for deep strikers.

>>54693548
Mort and Pert were Horus' only competent generals. Everyone else during the Heresy even most of the Loyalist were retarded

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>>54693590
Probably not too upset, given that pic related was still a fantastic way of getting back at them and literally made Perty unkillable as a result. They still hate the fists no doubt, but they probably don't give a shit that the fists are more concerned over greenskins.

>>54693600
Oh yeah, the colors contrast very nicely. Good work, and for the faces I found it's always easier to do flesh then paint streaks, pother way around is messy as hell. Coolio, happy someone is doing raptors and not going OC-DONUTSTEEL-POUCHES'N'AMMO=OPERATOR.

>>54693617
Which is another reason why I'm annoyed that Pert despite being competent and powerful as fuck, kept losing battles due to obvious bullshit favoritism and plot armor to imperial forces

>>54693624
Except Dorn wanted his sons to die and to kill Iron Warriors.

Iron Cage was as much a win to the Imperial Fists as it was to the Iron Warriors.

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>>54693584
>Dreadknight

how are tyranids in 8th? my brothers dark angels aren't ready but he may play with the nyds and have his points against chaos if I read the site correctly.

>>54693617

Alpharius.

>>54693548
I think he would have been happier just doing laundry

>>54693580
not really. they made a new set of sprues and recycled the sculpts. But was essentially a whole new kit.

cutlists got it instead of chosen because there wasnt a sperate cultist kit but chosen can be made from the regular chaos marines kit.

we may eventually see the DV sculpts re used, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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>>54693634
I have a poor track record with flesh so I figured I'd tried something different. Camo is only on the face. The cloak is sponging with case foam of Rhinox on the base and then Castellan on the higher ends.

I adhere pretty carefully to the established schemes and with Raptors I see that the 'Less Is More' approach suits them well.

>>54693657
Killed by a retarded banana who didn't stop to think there might be a reason why they are fighting 1v1. Dorn killed the Emperors undercover agent, thus destroying any plans that were made to save the imperium

>>54693165
It cost more.
Thunderfire cannons are shit.
4d3 is more consistent than 2d6.
24" range "artillery".

>>54693674

>Alpharius is incompetent because someone else fell for his plan

>>54693547
I bought Gal Vorbak to use them as possessed.
Well, too bad the legion rules were shit with the normal codex (as in nonexistant), shit with traitor legions and shit in the new codex.
All along possessed are shit too.
I think I'll use them as spawn, so atleast they will see the table once or twice.

>>54693674
>this meme again

>>54693667
>Perty shows up to the laudry room.
>Every machine is in use.
>Inside every single machine is Chaos damned yellow.
>Dorn looks out of his fortified laudry bunker in what once was the corner of the room.
>"Perturabo."

>>54693584
While I admire the technical skill, I was never a big fan of this conversion.

The sort of soft, rounded shape to the GS just made it look like it was made from playdoh

>>54693257
TAKE A LIBRARIAN. FUCK, TAKE 2

USE THEM TO DEEP STRIKE WITH LAND RAIDER CRUSADERS (by using Gate of Eternity)

DO IT MOTHERFUCKER

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>>54693693
>>54693685
>DORN A GOOD BANANA, HE DINDU NUFFIN

>>54693674
>who didn't stop to think there might be a reason why they are fighting 1v1
Yeah, because ferrus vs fulgrim was just to set up a polite discussion, right? At that point in the heresy it was fair to assume if a primarch from the other team comes at you 1v1, it's to kill.

>>54693656
aparently pretty good, but not brokenly so.

pyrovores and rippers are actually worth taking.

>>54693708
>my retarded meme primarch was totes a loyalist guys, despite the fact that he showed absolutely no signs of it in the novel, was doing major damage to the Sol system, and never once tried to communicate to his brother that they're on the same side, and instead decided to get into a fight with the most stubborn mother fucker in the entire galaxy

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>mon-keigh will defend this

How does it feel to be less manly than space twinks?

>>54693757
And yet, there are still those who claim we will not get a general scale increase.

>>54693757
left is an old marine, right?

>>54693093
Haha, thanks.
>>54693151
The Ultramarines doctrine is really comfy. As a Guard player I know how nice it is to back out and shoot. Though I usually like the fight twice order. I'm enjoying the campaign too! I've won one game for Imperium and that game I just played was "Renegade" Guard so I got a point for Chaos since our store was lagging behind for Chaos.
>>54693188
What armies were you playing? Sounds like you were Guard and Space Marines. Both games sound like lots of fun though. Orks have been really fun to fight this edition because I like to run melee Guard so they come crashing in and it's just tons of melee fun.
>>54693212
That sounds like a horrible list to fight against. Deepstriking armies are always so hard to fight.
>>54693136
His list sounds similar to a list I was going to run. That sounds hard to fight against. What gave you the most trouble?

I have a question you gentlemen might be able to help me out with: Is modifying a roll to a certain result the same as rolling that result naturally?
The rulebook states that for hit, wound and save rolls, a roll of 1 fails regardless of modifiers, but the same does not (for example) apply to overheating plasma weapons, meaning the chaos psychic power prescience makes overheating impossible.
Also, the Night Lords stratagem is not usable in the form GW itself advertises - both for this reason (it turns rolls of 2 into 1, making them overheat, but also turns rolls of 1 into 0, so the total overheat chance stays the same) as well as the fact that using the stratagem happens before you even decide to use overcharge on your plasma weapons.

>>54693757
He clearly is wearing stolen platform shoes like the vagrant he is
https://regimental-standard.com/2017/02/15/the-visarch-chic-or-shabby/

>>54693757
Even bloody SoS are Amazonian meme size now.
Did the Emperor had a giant Fetish?

>>54693757
>Eldar are elves in space
>Elves are taller than humans
>Space elves should be taller than space humans

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>>54693708
>Alpharius is so incompetent he gets mad and outdone by a retarded banana

Who's the dummy now?.

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>>54693757
>10 ft tall alien warrior God incarnate
>8 ft tall MK IV Space Marine

Yeah I'm actually completely ok with this.

When is the chaos codex coming out?

>>54693789
>That sounds like a horrible list to fight against. Deepstriking armies are always so hard to fight.
I'm hoping most armies will get something similar to the LSM stratagem Auspex Scan to at least somewhat counter deepstriking strategies, but yeah, it was pretty horrible. The worst part is my opponent wasn't even trying to minmax or anything, he hadn't played any 40k in almost a year and just knocked together a list off the top of his head.

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>>54693789
Maximum comfy. Tac marine pull out like no tomorrow and blast the fuck out of possessed.

I've won two so far but one was CSM other was Imperial. Store is lacking in CSM recently and the Xenos are cheating bastards, literally, so it's pretty bad.

Pic related is local store at the end of today.

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>ITT

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had this kinda come up yesterday in my game, but my opp was insistent on it working like that so I just shrugged and didn't let it drag down the game.

Can hit rolls ever go below 6+?

As in: In this context, he was firing with a baneblade down to 6 wounds. without moving, his BS is 6+.

However, my venom has a flickerfield, which effectively makes it a supersonic flier(-1 to all shooting hit rolls against it)

Now, my opp assumed that meant that, against the venom, it had a 7+ to hit and was thus impossible to make.

Is this correct?

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>>54693838

>>54693846
Yes 7+ is unhittable.

>>54693846
No, the max cap it 6+. You ALWAYS hit on 6+ and ALWAYS wound on 6+.

>>54693782
Yeah
Mk 4 armour

>>54693803
It's not tho
Just some random eldar dude
The Yncarne is bigger

>>54693881
False

>>54693803
thats just the Visarch though

>>54693881
That's wrong though. The rulebook only says that a roll of a 1 always fails, regardless of modifiers. It says nothing about a roll of a 6 always hitting

>>54693881

Half right. You don't always hit on 6s, but you do always wound on 6.

>>54693060
>sandals
of course it's an IG player

>>54693881
Untrue, precedent is very clearly you can go above 6+ and below 1+. Hence why shit that has -1 to hit is great for overwatch, or the usefulness of flamers, etc.

You always wound on a 6, but not hit. You can have 7+ to hit in lots of cases

Khornate alpha legion Warband that combine berzerk savagery and ritualistic slaughter with carefully laid ambushes and confusion-sowing diversionary tactics?

>>54693904
>>54693909
>>54693931


Shit really? I assumed because it applies to wound of 6+ it was the same to hit.

Wait one, will consult rulebook.

>>54693789
Scout Sentinels and Celestine with seraphim. I knew what to expect from the other stuff but I didn't expect guard to cross the board and charge turn 1.

>>54693939
Yep, modifiers can make it impossible to hit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/04/new-psychic-powers-new-heroes-and-more-your-first-look-at-codex-grey-knights-aug4gw-homepage-post-3/

>Grey Knights are an army that dominates the psychic phase. You’ll be able to make use of all six of your psychic powers every game, and each one is very useful. Our favourite is Astral Aim, which allows Grey Knights units to ignore cover and even fire through walls

>>54693934
Just have your AL tell Berserkers they know where skulls are, like lots of them

>>54693931
Overwatch always hits on a 6+ regardless of modifiers.
Unless it specifically says that it applies to modifiers, can't think of anything that would modify overwatch to a 7+

>>54693931
>Hence why shit that has -1 to hit is great for overwatch
Wrong on this particular bit, overwatch hits on a 6 regardless of any modifiers.

Not sure what you mean about flamers either.

What would suggest as a good anti-infantry unit for a new SM player, I hear the new Dread with double gattling is good but I want to know if there are any other options that stand out. Looking at a Primaris army in particular.

>>54693891
eldar are supposed to be taller than marines though.

They're just not as bulky.

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>>54693959
>Most excitingly, you’ll be able to field an entire army of nothing but Dreadknights by using Spearhead Detachments – by our calculations, you can fit about 8 into 2000 points comfortably.

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>>54693959

>Our favourite is Astral Aim, which allows Grey Knights units to ignore cover and even fire through walls

U WOT

>>54693145
anyone?Plz

>>54693947
I'm poor at scouring this new rulebook, do you have a page or index reference for that?

>>54693977
I bet he thinks flamers ignore range.

Unless you have flamers with 10"+ range avoiding overwatch fire from flamer is not that hard

>lascannon/missile dreadnoughts with astral aim hiding behind a wall

>>54692712
Where might a wayward newbie locate copies of te codices? Asking for.... a friend who really wants to try their and at 40k for the first time but doesn't have the dosh to spare atm

>>54693998
Page 181 covers shooting, it explicitly states that a roll of a one always fails, but it says nothing abiut a roll of a 6 always succeeding. As such, there is no reason to think the latter is the case

>>54694013
You're in the wrong place, friendo. There is no such thing. Did you even read the rules in the op before posting?

>>54693993

Pfft, and I can fit 10 dreads including a leviathan and a deredeo, 8 Dreadknights is nothing.

>>54694013

Right here in my hand.

https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>>54694013
Check the OP.

>>54694013
There's a link in that post you just quoted there pardner

>>54694013
Only C:SM is out, for any other army you'll have to use the indexes

>>54693497
Step 3.1: Choose Unit to Shoot With explicitly states " You may not pick a unit that Advanced or Fell Back this turn, or a unit that is within 1" of an enemy unit."

This means you will never have an opportunity to fire your Assault Weapons, since it only allows the individual model to fire, but you can never pick the unit that model is in due to step 3.1

Likewise for Pistols for units within 1" of an enemy. The rule allows MODELS to fire but you'll never be legally able to pick the unit for shooting in the first place.

>>54693959
>new ships (hate the design but good rules, so eh)
>new powers
>terminators will be cheaper I guess?
>looks like they fixed dreadknights
>stratagems are scary as fuck
>we be getting lieutenants now, apparently

Aaaawwww shiiiit, it's purgin time

>>54693995
Probably just lets them ignore line of line of sight in the same way as mortars and other indirect fire weapons.

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Blood angels damn well better get these fliers as well if the GK can have them.

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First time painting here. Worried i went way overboard with primer even though i tried to be careful. Do these details look clogged?

>>54694051
Stratagems are scary? Many of them are the same as the SM counterpart, not counting that playing grey knights only allows for a handful of Command points per game, and 3 CP is a huge cost in that sense.

>>54694051
>we be getting lieutenants now, apparently

Source? Because with the two fliers that brings us to 32 Datasheets.

Tho I could easily see Brotherhood Champions fulfilling that Lieutenant role

>>54694062

That still seems pretty ridiculous. Grey Knights are OP enough without being able to go all Wanted on everyone.

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Ooh nice, if it's in both vanilla and grey Knights there's a very high chance this'll be in space wolves too, which means I'll be able to have Bjorn buff the frontline and another dread buff the gunline.

Here's hoping chapter tactics wolves benefits dreads!

>>54694069
Yes, but next year, when you get your shit codex

>>54694084
Eh. It's a psychic power that they still have to cast. Plus it's only one unit.

>>54693257
Strike Squads with falchions in groups of 10. 210 points, deep strike, 40 sb shots, and 21 s4 -2 d3 attacks, can smite or hammer hand themselves to wound vehicles on 4s.

GM with a psilencer and a daemonhammer, basically a mini draigo who can knock off vehicles by himself.

Even standard GK terminators aren't as bad as people think, paladins are certainly better however. With the fist point reduction they're 46 points compared 40 for a vanilla sm termie but they're psykers with +1 attack and +1 hit with falchions instead of -1 rend for fist.

>>54694091
Acceptable.

>>54694007
>Using Index to get Autocannons, shooting through walls and ignoring cover.

>>54694074
Compared to say this one with all the details looking a lot sharper

>>54692738
Please, please let this be true.

I will take a 2nd mortgage on my house if it is.

>>54693751
I like to think that Alpharius was just the Alex Jones wacky conspiracy theorist of the Primarchs.

>>54693977
A) yes it does, it says nowhere in book or FAQs say otherwise. They do go in reverse though, saying a six is 'required... regardless of modifiers', but if you're hitting on seven then no. The playtesters have stated this multiple times, odd GW hasn't cleared it up

B) flamers are useful because they can hit regardless of any hit mods, but range can fuck them when being overwatched.

End of the day just use the right amounr of LoS blocking terrain and just charge from there, then forget about overwatch entirely.

>>54694120
yes, yes
But can you mix codex and index entries?

>>54693921
I didn't realize you could see my toes. We were just having an argument about sandals and shoes at lunch.

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>>54694127
Fuckssake forgot photo

FINALLY O FRIENDS
I CAN NOW FULFILL MY DREAM OF FIELDING AN ARMY OF BABYCARRIERS
>t. school kid

>>54694120
You can't do that anymore, because codex overwrites the index.

To quote the FAQ: Once a unit has been covered in the codex though, we assume you’re using the latest version.

>>54694141
If your model has no rules in the codex, you use the index.

>>54694043
huh, well it's a good thing they have the "most important rule" clause to deal with that kind of thing

>That’s not all, however. Community team member Rhuairidh, who wrote this article, is so confident of the awesomeness of the Black Legion that he’s offered to prove it with a game on Warhammer Live. Tune in at 6:00 pm UK time on Twitch to watch it for free – he’ll be battling the Grey Knights.

Oh man, I'll laugh when they shill so hard and yet get tabled on turn 3. "D..Don't worry guys, he just had bad luck, preorder the codex please"

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>>54694139
>rules say "a 6 is always required"
>yeah but what if you're hitting on seven
How fucking stupid are you.

>>54694188
So by that logic if I claim my conscripts all have 9000 wounds, we roll off to see if they do? And then I claim they have 9001 if I fail, etc?

>>54694202

That reads like it's a minimum, not a definite hit but the wording should have cleared that up.

>>54694183
Wrong
"While the indexes are designed to cover a long history of miniatures, the codexes are designed to give you rules for the current Warhammer 40,000 range. There are a few options in the indexes for some Characters and vehicles that are no longer represented in the Citadel range – certain Dreadnought weapons that don’t come in the box, or some characters on bikes, for example.
Don’t worry though, you can still use all of these in your games if you have these older models. In these instances, use the datasheet from the index, and the most recent points published for that model and its weapons (currently, also in the index)."
It explicitly addresses "certian Dreadnought weapon options" and then say you may "still use all of these in your games"

>>54694205
I dunno, does the notion of conscripts having 9000 wounds make sense in the context of all the other rules?

>>54693306
Those points are the same, GK couldn't take Stormhawks before. The Dreadknight GM is 60 points higher than a normal one, so pretty huge increase.

My sadistic sexual deviant friend is getting into 40k. He's interested in Dark Eldar. Is this a problem or a good idea?

>>54694235

It seems like a natural fit for him.

>>54694165
sorc looks slightly overprimed but I wouldn't worry too much about it. just be careful with washes not finding corners as well as usual

>>54694074
>>54694127
>>54694165
I see a bit of thickness to it but you will most likely not notice it if you do thin paints over it. Don't spray too close but don't spray too far either or else you'll get a dusty grainy layer over the model.

>>54694205
You're forgetting the bit where you're sprawled on the floor as a meaty grog-backhand connects with your cheek and then the manager rolls a 4+ to not call the police

>>54693548

>Perty is pretty dangerous

Then I guess its a good thing his legion isn't this edition, else he might be able to accomplish something

>>54694029
Wow! Thanks!

>>54694228
What part of "Once a unit has been covered in the codex though, we assume you’re using the latest version." is unclear to you? You HAVE to use the latest version, period. The line you're quoting lets you use Librarian on Bikes.

>>54694224
>6
>not 6+
seems pretty clear to me
>>54694235
>not slaanesh
pls

>>54694266
So then why does it explicitly mention "certian dreadnought weapon options?"
Because GW thought it'd be funny?

The next codex is Death Guard right? Is another codex releasing alongside it like CSM and GK?

You lot think that Chaos will have a stratagem that enables DttFE on xenos and shit?

>>54694266
>line quotes dreadnought weapon loadouts
>uhh that means librarians on bikes
Anon, I...

>>54694259
yeah i think i started spraying too close for the sorcerer because of where he was on the stick, while the ones at the very end are looking really good, sharp details and all. sucks that the sorcerer is the one that looks a bit funny bc its my favourite one. ill get to painting them tomorrow and ill try and be super careful with keeping paint thin. hopefully i dont need to touch up too many mistakes as itll be my first time (other than a lesson instore) painting.

>>54694228

Just ignore the lazy troll and run your rifledread.

Heavy bolter dreads are decent too: Cheap ranged weapon with a high rate of fire so more chance of doing something as you move up to use your fist.

>>54694266
You're a special kind of retard aren't you?

>>54694272
He likes rape and torture.
I suggested Slaanesh Daemons but they're kinda weird. Also suggested Emperor's Children but Noise Marines are stupid hard to acquire.